ah yes the infamous completed 20 on time so youre high on life and you think you can do anything
#protection
oblique garnet
warm plinth
😂
jovial jewel
depends on your mouse and monitor size lmao
warm plinth
Sure
oblique garnet
no catfriend
junior ivy
what
junior ivy
why my mouse size
chilly brook
Not a bad one with you having a 950
sand egret
i wouldn't
jovial jewel
same
lusty grotto
well i alternate
jovial jewel
i change it up sometimes but
chilly brook
Nah the 2060 is actually a decent value proposition
lusty grotto
between 1200 and 2400
sand egret
@junior ivy I'd wait personally
oblique garnet
400 dpi masterrace
jovial jewel
muscle memory
chilly brook
I use 400 dpi
junior ivy
wait for what
lusty grotto
mouse settings
jovial jewel
mouse
sand egret
there's a lot of threading issues going on with the new cards that devs are running into now
jovial jewel
if you have a gaming mouse
junior ivy
i have a g502 mouse
sand egret
so you see a lot of games having some gnarly crashes
warm plinth
I know it's a mouse setting; just not what it's for
lusty grotto
modern brook
K i grabbed evry "dont use leech comment" this month
warm plinth
I use the G600
jovial jewel
especially if your a 1.5 cs player
chilly brook
If you ask Bull I’m a baby FPS player
modern brook
Whoa no
junior ivy
soo gtx 2060 good idea yes
sand egret
well you are a baby 😃
modern brook
I said ur a bab y CSGO**** player
lusty grotto
as far as FPS go
warm plinth
She doesn't even play WoW
junior ivy
who wants to play csgo with me?
chilly brook
@junior ivy compared to the 950 it’s a huge upgrade and it’s a decent value prospect
junior ivy
i got a couple hours befor egoing to movies
jovial jewel
id be down
i was a kid playing with adults
they thought i was hacking
had to much time
lusty grotto
if youre one of those kids that won't shut the fuck up on voice, i insta mute you
modern brook
lusty grotto
been getting quite a couple of those in apex lately
"OMG YOU GOT HOW MANY KILLS"
mutes them
sand egret
@junior ivy i'd look into rhetoric around that card and D2, specifically. As I mentioned above, there's been a wave of threading-related issues to that card line and recent games (most likely developers not on the same page as Nvidia in terms of driver releases) so I'd check in on that before you drop some cash on it.
chilly brook
590
sand egret
1080
chilly brook
1660ti
sand egret
ti
lusty grotto
what card do you even have atm cat
junior ivy
gtx 950
sand egret
ew
chilly brook
Good luck getting a 1080ti
torn gust
MM just got shoulders from mythic mekka for tanking, sweet :p
lusty grotto
uhhhh 2060 time or 1660, cat
junior ivy
i got it free from my cotank in a previous guild, he had pity on me
chilly brook
That’s what I said
junior ivy
and mailed me it
jovial jewel
lets be real, most games use up to 2 cores. the video card is where its at if the game supports it
chilly brook
2060, RX 590 and 1660ti are your best bet
sand egret
the 2060 could be fine, but i'm just giving you a word of warning of whats going down behind the scene
lusty grotto
doesnt matter, she doesn't understand that balde
sand egret
@jovial jewel that could not be more wrong 😃
lusty grotto
but an upgrade is needed fo rsure
chilly brook
But the 1660ti doesn’t make sense compared to the 2060 at the price point
lusty grotto
it does now
old night
hey dudes, I got a 17 WCM yesterday and wanna practice on a 10 to 12 wcm before trying to push it with some friends. My best is a 12. Anyone got tips for WCM or even a guide for the dungeon at that high of a level?
torn gust
What do you prefer in m+, unstable flames or heed my call?
sand egret
i'm saying "most games" =/= WoW lol
jovial jewel
to what extent
warm plinth
Does anyone think Alliance will ever get gear for an emissary reward ever again?
lusty grotto
it uses all 8 on ryzens
jovial jewel
2 is multicore
lusty grotto
i know because i built a ryzen pc a month ago for a friend
oblique garnet
@old night lust tree boi lust sisters lust the 4th boss
vast sedge
@torn gust heed
jovial jewel
but the infrastructure is still based on the 1-2 cores
chilly brook
Siege is quite cpu intensive /shrug
sand egret
most modern games bottle neck in CPU
jovial jewel
i admit i can be wrong
sand egret
not GPU
lusty grotto
bro its 2019
modern brook
@old night lust L&L waycrests, tree, and sisters - be prepared to kill adds on butcher
jovial jewel
yeah. what you playing crisis?
sand egret
cuz fucking drawcalls
modern brook
if u have rogues you can fix bad door pathings
jovial jewel
doubt it
modern brook
This week is fake af on trash, dont be afraid to pull fat
jovial jewel
some rogues with 2kio cant even save them self
jovial jewel
i pulled the whole left pack of atal
modern brook
is left side Witches first or Butcher first
oblique garnet
witches
modern brook
I'ma child who doesnt have directional awareness
modern brook
the ones that silence or the ones with the damage reduction buff?
sand egret
that cleave hits man
oblique garnet
shadow cleave
modern brook
oh fuck
jovial jewel
and pulled all the captains and patrol
modern brook
yeah u right
sand egret
isn't the captains that shadowcleave?
chilly brook
I need people to play Div2 with
oblique garnet
no
sand egret
well THOSE guys suck
jovial jewel
yeah, if you arent tanking dont pull
modern brook
I was thinking specifically before tree and butcher
those trash are pullable from experience
jovial jewel
i was hauling ass, doesnt give you permission to pull
jovial jewel
on butcher
old night
thanks guys
modern brook
@oblique garnet can u spell refelct triad casts?
lusty grotto
you can
modern brook
I thought so but i dont remember xd
lusty grotto
so?
lusty grotto
they certainly cast on you
torn gust
How bad is triple BoM with triple DC?
lusty grotto
ok let me log
lusty grotto
bro
jovial jewel
unless your taunting
lusty grotto
why are you being captain obvious?
jovial jewel
i can see that
modern brook
@torn gust its negative bad
jovial jewel
but you got one spell reflect
modern brook
assuming ur not having issues surviving its a strong set up for damage output in keys
jovial jewel
im oblivious
torn gust
You rather have the bwonsamdi shit instead of DC?
modern brook
Treach?
jovial jewel
i dont think its neccesary to to that mechanic when the most dmg comes from the buffed sister
warm plinth
Guessing he means Seductive Power?
halcyon perch
anyone got a spread sheet or some sort of list of abilities that can be SR?
warm plinth
Which is a hard pass
jovial jewel
its in the guide
torn gust
yh covenant, my bad
warm plinth
Oh, I'd probably take covenant over 2nd/3rd DC
modern brook
@torn gust yeah i'd do 3x DC before TC stacks
oblique garnet
@modern brook yes you can reflect triads casts?
modern brook
Thanks late
jovial jewel
can you explain how
analog swift
The homie has the dumb
modern brook
u press spell reflect when its targeting u?
jovial jewel
make me better
oblique garnet
the big boss with iris targets you
analog swift
Like you know how you type /cast spell reflect
oblique garnet
the rest shoot at random
warm plinth
Cyclone Strikes is reflectable and only if it isn't targeting you
jovial jewel
?
analog swift
Like that
lusty grotto
stop trying to answer
oblique garnet
well in theory
jovial jewel
shit is confusing
oblique garnet
you can reflect all 3
lusty grotto
if you're oblivious
torn gust
Would you sac the third BoM and DC by a bloodsport and iron fortress?
oblique garnet
if the all 3 cast at you
jovial jewel
not that oblivious but its not specific
oblique garnet
at the same time
lusty grotto
your answers are not helpful
jovial jewel
no they cant fixiate on you
analog swift
Just stop please
jovial jewel
thats a fact on the one your tanking
analog swift
🛑
modern brook
@torn gust Uhhh thats up to preference I'd say
modern brook
3x Bom 3x DC is big damage set up. 2x Bom 2x DC +BS/IF is like
"I want a big damage set up, but my healer gave me a finger wag"
sick sentinel
over 500 message oh god
torn gust
1 iron fortress over the third DC?
modern brook
@sick sentinel u missed absolutely nothing
torn gust
can't fit in bloodsport 😦
modern brook
'cept my solution to leech questions
sick sentinel
perfect
warm plinth
70% of it was leech memes
analog swift
Please don’t read above
sick sentinel
shit I missed a lot
modern brook
@torn gust If u want man lol
sick sentinel
brb
warm plinth
modern brook
I'm assuming these are all equal ilvl options
torn gust
yh all 415 pieces
modern brook
I think
A better idea for u
is to try and understand when IF is good comparatively to other traits
and then decide for yourself
cause honestly every option can be useful in different scenarios
If u want just "yeah sure lets go" just take 3x bom 3x dc or 3xbom 1x dc 2x if
modern brook
lusty grotto
oblique garnet
its not against the rules if its relevant conversation
modern brook
U got a strong point there
lusty grotto
were fucking with you late
jovial jewel
Overview - Whichever Sister has Focusing Iris gains energy, and when they reach their maximum, they cast Dire Ritual. Inflicting enough damage makes a sister drop the iris, and another sister will pick it up.
Tanks -
Only the sister who has Focusing Iris needs to be tanked.
Players affected by Soul Manipulation need to be damaged in order to break the spell.
When empowered by the focusing iris, each sister uses their primary attack against only you.
warm plinth
@oblique garnet Have you tested TC vs 2nd/3rd DC on TR? I feel like TC is a huge amount of str that should compete with extra DCs 🤔
oblique garnet
marginal difference
modern brook
@warm plinth I dont think TC is worth its draw back
warm plinth
Interesting; that's surprising.
I mean, the only drawback I would even consider on TC is the lack of a buff
modern brook
In non-threatening content i think the STR bonus is sick
lusty grotto
honestly there's just too many cases where TC goes against BoM
and BoM is just clearly superior
modern brook
but once stuff starts hitting u TC uptime suffers -> becomes a hinderance
in my experience 🤷
torn gust
Would you say the third DC for fortified and extra IF for tyra?
warm plinth
Yeah I was just thinking that since we have so much mitigation, our uptime on it is super high
torn gust
Just annoying there isn't a clearcut way
sick sentinel
ay
lusty grotto
you got it backwards
warm plinth
So I figured it might outshine DC
lusty grotto
fortified trash hurts
warm plinth
On 2nd and 3rd traits*
lusty grotto
you need IF
modern brook
^
sick sentinel
I skipped the garbage and only read the good stuff
torn gust
Tyra bosses hurt too tho :p
modern brook
@sick sentinel did u see my sick picture ?
sick sentinel
nice image bull, I'm in it 😊
modern brook
thanks
lusty grotto
rofl
lusty grotto
im gonna put that pic in discordchip
jovial jewel
didn't know fortified trash hurts. thank you, no wonder they rotate it everyweek
warm plinth
🤔
lusty grotto
im apparently the only one that catches the leech talk early
warm plinth
He was talking to me afaik; referring to why uptime isn't super high on TC
modern brook
@torn gust you get more value out of higher block on Trash becuase more damage is white
bullshit number alert: lets say IF reduces 30 extra damage per blocked hit
in a 5 pull thats 600 damage every auto rotation across the pull
on a boss, its still 30
jovial jewel
someone say SOTS
modern brook
TBH u can get away with just 3-2-1 if u really want the IF
Its just preference
Our azerite begins and ends with 1DC; 3bom if u want to push keys
modern brook
😬
lusty grotto
🥑
jovial jewel
okay im trolling why do people ask questions about if if you can survive dont pick it
shut summit
🥑
modern brook
🥑
modern brook
Also @shut summit u havent been streaming :^(
modern brook
Fair tbh
shut summit
almost got there, mayb next time
oblique garnet
atleast your team didnt bail on you
modern brook
😬
lusty grotto
what did you have to place for it?
i thought you were top 10
or at least in one of them
shut summit
top 8
lusty grotto
oh jesus
shut summit
we just picked bad classes / had someone DC in 3 of our 5 king rest keys, shit happens just play better next time
lusty grotto
i'd be inclined to say yes
lapis orbit
.
sick sentinel
It does
lusty grotto
but i can't say for sure to be honest
sick sentinel
Vers does affect leech heal
modern brook
yes
sick sentinel
Yes
sick sentinel
Better question does vers affect gonk gang
sick sentinel
Mission failed; we'll get 'em next time
crisp pecan
i am having headache with motherlode boss, he is channeling skills so fast that i cant move him out of coins
lusty grotto
uhhh
jovial jewel
so does leech weigh higher with self higher versatility , given the two multipliers of what verse does dps and healing increase?
crisp pecan
this is so shitty
jovial jewel
you have to kite faster
lusty grotto
in general always move him asap hes casting coins
jovial jewel
yeah
crisp pecan
he is not moving at all
jovial jewel
so you postion him prior to that cast
crisp pecan
isnt that coins re thrown wherever he is positioned?
frozen ember
long as we're talking about motherlode, I did my first 15 last night and that 3rd boss was wrecking me. Is that just a straight up IP fight?
sick sentinel
He typical casts coins after he does a shockclaw or a pulse
lusty grotto
yes its an IP fight
frozen ember
zero problems the whole run, then boom, I'm dropped to 20% repeatedly
lusty grotto
always SR after she drops the azerite
frozen ember
gotcha
lusty grotto
keep demo up always
jovial jewel
Don’t even use sb
lusty grotto
and dont be afraid to Wall
jovial jewel
If you have the trait yes
sick sentinel
I would say to spread ur wall and demo shout
lusty grotto
if you have what trait? SB buffs SS without any traits
sick sentinel
While it's good to use both at the same time u want to have it up for the quick ip casts
modern brook
SB is a 30% damage increase
u should be using it the same way u use revenge
on that fight*
jovial jewel
Depends
jovial jewel
If you are having trouble surviving don’t sacrifice for higher dmg output if your ip is constantly blown away.
modern brook
jovial jewel
Sb cost rage I
modern brook
modern brook
jovial jewel
For that fight
umbral forge
Don't cap rage.
Use it when you're safe. I.E mob is propelling blastin'
jovial jewel
It only increases shield slam damage no1
empty inlet
On ml 3rd boss you want to rotate chemical burn debuff with personals
You can reflect first have other dps take 2nd
Cloack/blur/vanish/ what ever they have
modern brook
U can get 2 stacks of chem burn?
oblique garnet
no
modern brook
im misunderstanding what lala is saying then
sick sentinel
Yes u can
oblique garnet
you cant
sick sentinel
This is game by a small indie company
oblique garnet
unless you are somehow soloing the boss then no
lusty grotto
chemical burn is dispelable, you don't need to rotate for shit, you always have SR up for it
empty inlet
You spell reflect first and dispel the other dot
daring patrol
yeah, it comes faster than the cd
empty inlet
Next set your healer dispel you and your ally use personal
empty inlet
You're wrong so
sick sentinel
Because u also think leech is meme
modern brook
can i get a log link plz
sick sentinel
No
sick sentinel
I ban nim from linking loga
modern brook
?? I dont tihnk SR is reduced by haste
empty inlet
🤔
shut summit
SR isnt reduced by haste and isn't up for both
empty inlet
Nim is genius
lusty grotto
bro
shut summit
its ~15sec between casts
empty inlet
🤔 hes on to some ml meta
lusty grotto
i stand corrected on the haste thing
its 25 seconds, lets look at the chemical burn cd
or the average cd
jovial jewel
Any thoughts on an itemlvl 425 bring barnacle
umbral forge
F
shut summit
link the log you are screenshotting
modern brook
^ please
lusty grotto
empty inlet
lusty grotto
ah
oblique garnet
nim is cheating confirmed
daring patrol
screenshot even shows every other one
jovial jewel
I’m serious about briny
empty inlet
Na he hit a haste break point for ml
lusty grotto
ok i stand corrected
astral crystal
man if SR was reduced by haste that'd be bonkers
daring patrol
oh sweetie
umbral forge
@jovial jewel i dislike briny.
So F
modern brook
😬
oblique garnet
can someone get rid of this troll?
jovial jewel
Oh k. I does quite a bit of dmg
empty inlet
🐷
jovial jewel
Ty no real survival except itemlvl
Sorry everyone, I’m using my phone. So it auto corrects and makes it incorrect
modern brook
looks like pair-15s-pair-25s-pair-15s-pair-25s
for each chemical burn
small sample size, hard to tell
modern brook
if tthats the case theres a universe where u SR the 2nd and 3rd ones
instead of the 1st and 3rd
saying it outloud seems less interesting
lusty grotto
i could have sworn i had SR up for every one
modern brook
in a sufficiently long fight, u might be able to sneak more SRs in that way?
lusty grotto
thank logs i guess
lusty grotto
rofll
modern brook
yeah happened to us
oblique garnet
even if nobody dies
modern brook
happened like 5th global in though
silk mortar
No defensives are affected
dusty tusk
Its affected by haste through AM ;)
jovial jewel
I’m not familiar with these acronyms y’all like f
Fuck no?
Well that’s a rap, no defense cd that isn’t affected by traits to reduce the cd is affected by haste.
Isn’t
dusty tusk
Hover over an skill, it'll show the skills cd, if it's affected by haste, it shows up in green
jovial jewel
I know, I’ve been reading this talk about sr
And I’m hovering over it and wondering why this debate is going on
dusty tusk
There wasnt, one guy made a mistake, he said he made a mistake. The end.
They were trying to figure out ML 3rd bosses chemical burn cd
supple path
Making a 0.5s cast time ability spell reflectable was an act of deliberate cruelty by Blizzard anyway.
bronze lantern
have someone else be closest on first
so 2nd cast goes on you
then you have plenty of time
supple path
Yeah that's my go-to method, just really is poorly designed.
lusty grotto
2 melee, but im always hugging the boss's nuts anyway
lusty grotto
i reflect before hand
no need to reflect as hes casting
there's nothing else in that fight that drops your SR
jovial jewel
@dusty tusk I understand that. The result is knowledgeable for future encounters.
supple path
I actually had to look up the average human reaction time when having an argument about that ability once.
warm plinth
What is it, like .7 seconds?
bronze lantern
spoiler, its longer
i know the general timing when it comes, if you anticipate something it drops quite a bit
supple path
0.25, but with latency in wow it verges on near the 0.5
warm plinth
Yeah but you're anticipating it, so it should be shorter
I'm just being dumb honestly. I can't react to those super fast casts either
Especially with 55ms
bronze lantern
then just talk to your melee
jovial jewel
Does ms and hardware specs affect the results from the sources?
bronze lantern
have him stand right in front of you
supple path
I'll forever treasure the memories of my australian tanks who were incapable of stance-dancing fears
bronze lantern
that mustve been a long time ago
warm plinth
I would imagine so, at least to a point. Otherwise you could abuse latency, couldn't you?
bronze lantern
oof
bronze lantern
fear ward Kapp
jovial jewel
It’s hard to say. Everyone’s spec is different and latency,
warm plinth
I actually saw Fear Ward on wowhead looking for something else the other day and I was like man, I forgot that was even a thing
jovial jewel
.7 sec is not a lot of time
supple path
fear ward was fun, but shadow word pain + devouring plagueing a rogue and then just leaving because they were already dead was fun too.
god I can't believe anyone misses classic
what a trainwreck
warm plinth
I logged on to my hunter on my original account during the free weekend. I still had 16,000 blackflight arrows (they're a junk item now) and a knothide quiver 😂
And I was using Despair from Karazhan because it unequipped my bow, since I no longer had a ranged slot
Or no, not Despair. Whatever the 2H axe is
Legacy
warm plinth
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-azerite-traits-powers-and-armor If you scroll down a bit, there's a ranking for middle ring traits
calm trout
Sorry and ty 😃
warm plinth
All good, you're welcome
calm trout
i have Crystalline Carapace, Overwhelming Power and Earthlink..tbh i dont like Crystalline.
I play m+ mainly
supple path
Of those 3 I'd get OP in a heartbeat for M+ probably.
warm plinth
Yeah for sure. OP is bae
It is important to note that the ranking is specifically for survival. It might switch up a bit if you're going for damage or a combination of the two.
sick sentinel
I personally don't like crystaline either
OP without a shadow of a doubt in my opinion
modern brook
@sand egret i forgot to buy tickets :^(
halcyon fable
Wouldn't OP fall off like immediately?
modern brook
how can u not like CC in M+
its literally middle ring IF
OP has an internal cooldown on stack reduction
ie: active tanking == ~2stacks lost a second in total
cuts the value in half, turns out OP is op even at half value though
halcyon fable
Oooh. I think I can get two OP from my gear. Wasn't because I thought it would just drop instantly. Awesome.
modern brook
YEAh OP is one of the better options in that ring
patent flower
Im running Reckless Flurry x3, DC x2, Bastion x1, OPx3. Mmm so satisfying.
lethal delta
op?
warm plinth
Overwhelming Power
modern brook
dc being called crash sounds wrong, tbh
modern brook
❤
lusty grotto
lurkers: RF+Deva is a cheese spec for cheese ST parses only
do not go with those talents/traits if you don't understand that
patent flower
Have you tried it?
lusty grotto
of course i have, im the one that figured out RF works with Deva
patent flower
lol
hushed cobalt
Works with? Like extra interaction?
patent flower
I mean "cheese" ST is still ST DPS. Ez pz.
lusty grotto
its still cheese
its still only valuable when overgearing
its still absolutely not good in progression
and its still ST ONLY (and only in raids)
warm plinth
Nim you know it's not good when that vein in your forehad is bulging right?
patent flower
The rage gen from Deva is still better than Demo
lusty grotto
so lurkers need to understand that
lusty grotto
there is no rage gen from deva
oblique garnet
eksdii
lusty grotto
you gain indirect rage by SS resets
patent flower
SS ppm
oblique garnet
rage gen with devastator is significantly lower than from bv
patent flower
No shit you troll
calm trout
415 Engineering Helmet or 415 Alchemist Trinket first :/ My Helmet is 400 and my Trinkets are 405 and 415
warm plinth
Why are you sharing incorrect information and calling other people trolls?
What trinkets @calm trout ?
modern brook
Yeah I'm not sure what look ur going for
but its nota goodone rn
go engie helm
U'll actually use it @calm trout
modern brook
vs alch trink which will be replaced by better/higher ilvl peices
warm plinth
Yeah, I tend to agree with bull
modern brook
if u finish engie helm and still need a trinket, finish the alch trink
lusty grotto
KR trinket... uhh bandages?
calm trout
the bandages 😄
warm plinth
Oh dear
calm trout
got no better trinket
lusty grotto
ouch bandages
warm plinth
Still probably the helm
calm trout
imo its "okeyish" its a nother 80k absorb every minute
lusty grotto
🤢
warm plinth
Just don't stress about ilevel too much when replacing bandages XD
modern brook
Chances of getting a better trinket >>> chances of getting a helm better than engie helm for us
calm trout
im just twink calpper 😄
hushed cobalt
For my peanut brain; your 1 auto gives 4 instances of damage. 1 auto, 1 devastator, 2 RF?
lusty grotto
no
calm trout
yeah the thing is i got 415 Shoulders and because i dont raid i only get the 415 chest from first boss
lusty grotto
the way deva works is it turns your autoattacks into devastator hits
calm trout
so with the helmet i should be full 415 azerith
modern brook
@hushed cobalt RF is its own instance of damage, so is deva, and your auto attack damage
lusty grotto
and RF states it adds damage to auto attacks, but the way it works is that it does a 2nd hit after the auto attack
modern brook
3x rf will give u 1 instance of RF damage, with the sum value of those traits (cut sum for DR)
lusty grotto
so the question was... does Devastator (since it turns AAs into Devastator hits) also provide the 2nd hit.
which is true
oh
he means stacking RFs
oops
yeah go by what bull said
hushed cobalt
Ah I thought it doubled dipped
lusty grotto
i mean if you outgear some ST raids, go for it to get high parses from your logs
oblique garnet
I dont trust my own advice
lusty grotto
otherwise... don't
modern brook
@oblique garnet But i do
oblique garnet
You trust my advice?
modern brook
Over myself yeh
lusty grotto
what advice is that?
modern brook
be excellent to one another i think
oblique garnet
Just quit the game its not fun 😃
modern brook
OOF
lusty grotto
rofl
warm plinth
I trust some people in here, but I usually default to my own unless they can prove it 😅
oblique garnet
jkjk
lusty grotto
that's good advice for people that need a break though
oblique garnet
im still only playing this game because i have no other games to play
lusty grotto
you can tell sometimes
warm plinth
I tell people that all the time. "I'm so bored" "Why are you still playing? Take a break"
lusty grotto
im 3 trophies left from maxing KH3 and then i go asap to Sekiro
warm plinth
Waiting to play Sekiro smh
oblique garnet
eh
modern brook
weebs cry twice :^(
warm plinth
Do you even Fromsoft
oblique garnet
sekiro is overrated
lusty grotto
i've heard
modern brook
I'm a huge from soft fan girl tbh
lusty grotto
i've been told its def easier than soulsborne
warm plinth
Same
lusty grotto
but whatever, i need a fromsoft game every once in a while
modern brook
super happy they're getting the money they deserver
lusty grotto
what kind of games are you into anyway Late
warm plinth
It's very subjective too. Some people think Bloodborne is the hardest game; I think it's one of the easier ones barring a couple bosses. DS1 is the easiest to me.
modern brook
blood borne punishes ppl who play souls like a big baby
warm plinth
I didn't say it was; I said some people think it is.
modern brook
which is why so many souls players said it was hardest
lusty grotto
yeah idk, i felt bb was pretty easy but i still loved it
warm plinth
Well tbf it's a completely different playstyle requirement than the rest of the games
lusty grotto
and i did the DLC thing
warm plinth
People think it's hard when they played DS and didn't adapt to the more aggressive playstyle fast enough
lusty grotto
orphan :/
oblique garnet
im big fan of strategy games nim
warm plinth
I thought Ludwig was twice as hard as Orphan. Don't @ me
modern brook
like civ or like age of empires 2
lusty grotto
have you tried Company of heroes?
oblique garnet
yes
lusty grotto
ah
oblique garnet
also big fan of civ game series
dunno if the 6th is worth or not
since at the start it was lackluster
modern brook
u play the CRAFT?
oblique garnet
@modern brook ??+
lusty grotto
cause that one def killed me a few times
modern brook
starcraft / warcraft
lusty grotto
wait are you into mp rts or both?
worn surge
so for zandalari, which would be better, kragwa or bwonsomdi?
lusty grotto
pakku for M+
lusty grotto
haha
warm plinth
Yeah Ludwig was the first DLC boss
lusty grotto
yeah that fucking dick
warm plinth
His abilities were really hard to get down for me because he's just all over the damn place
lusty grotto
i def remember having problems with him
oblique garnet
i like both why nim
lusty grotto
just curious
but yeah the only RTS that ive heard about is CoH, aside from the usual ones
modern brook
❤ ive been playing my rogue mostly tbh
when i tank, my key comps get really fucky
Literally did a 12 freehold that was 3warriors and 2 monks
🤷
oblique garnet
I like playing the "play peacefully and grow your empire until someone dares to attack you" in civ
lusty grotto
bull i def can level and gear a char to help you out on your war, just tell me what you need
modern brook
🤷 better friends :^)
lament garden
More warriors
oblique garnet
i will restart the na dream bull dw
oblique garnet
youre not gonna be tanking then tho
daring marlin
modern brook
thats fine i just wanna push keys dude
oblique garnet
XD
modern brook
like I have no problem not tanking but rn like if imnot tanking im fucking stearing the tank mobile still
"pull this"
"do that"
I just wanna punch stuff
warm plinth
Late actually playing NA; I'll have to see this
modern brook
He's going to fucking unsub TBH
once he realizes how fucking bad NA is when compared to eu
lusty grotto
Hmm
oblique garnet
yeah youre gonna see some big keys on NA group finder soon™
warm plinth
Lol
lusty grotto
Bull don't be afraid to add people in our runs either
modern brook
Real problem is i dont trust like half my guildies
lusty grotto
Oh
modern brook
not for lack of talent as much as lack of experience
jolly coral
I can feel a prot nerf coming =[
modern brook
🤷 we didnt really need the buff
lusty grotto
Well you don't have to run with your guildies
oblique garnet
EU pugs
lusty grotto
Just run 10s with them
modern brook
NA pugs disapear at ~17-18
lusty grotto
At 15
modern brook
on push weeks*
modern brook
really im just like [d e c l i n e d]
oblique garnet
im gonna be the one to make NA great again 8)
lusty grotto
Lol
modern brook
I want to be apart of Late's NAGA train
lusty grotto
I believe in you Late
hushed cobalt
@oblique garnet carry me, or drag, idc
lusty grotto
I'm thinking of doing rogue or druid next
lusty grotto
But I just know rogues are gonna get nerfed, at least outlaw
oblique garnet
i still need to level up paladin
modern brook
Outlaw nerf will probably just be like a target cap on BF
lusty grotto
Yeah
modern brook
pulls it in line with similar stuff
oblique garnet
bm hunter is actually sleeper op on m+
modern brook
only reason its bonkers is 1gcd => uncapped AoE
lusty grotto
Bm hunters are solid, so is MM
hushed cobalt
I currently disc for a prot warr/pally/monk. We pug the 5th :(
oblique garnet
mm hunters are bad
modern brook
compared to something like Unholy / Aff that require significant ramp
oblique garnet
they have capped aoe
lusty grotto
Not for tyrannical weeks ;)
oblique garnet
well yeah if you pull big and they are stacked up bm hunter just scales up
i tried beating my friends bm hunter
by going bigger
he kept staying ahead
modern brook
that bitch
lusty grotto
Lol
oblique garnet
it got to a point where we were doing fh
i was pulling 5 packs
this was on a 11 tho
modern brook
I did that in uhhhh SotS 7
feels good to be able to pull first room into bubbles
BIG numbers
MANY numbers
sick sentinel
aoe still capped at 20 targets btw
oblique garnet
is it?
oblique garnet
🤔
sick sentinel
basically
if you hit 20 targets and you hit 40 targets with your clap
you will do the same exact damage
empty inlet
☹
ocean acorn
why
modern brook
fun was detected
sick sentinel
if your tc does 10k damage but you hit 40 targets they will take 5k each or something
it is the same with all aoe abilities
nova gale
Wait is this confirmed?
modern brook
I mean its wildly irrelavant tbh
undone sun
20 damage cap has been in since mop
nova gale
Huh, you learn something new every day
sick sentinel
so pulls over 20 mobs are not that efficient I guess
like, you can still dot them all up I guess
or something
warm plinth
I wonder how it affects cleave abilities, like Moonfire with Two Moons specced.
warm plinth
🤢
potent anvil
it's really annoying that they're doing affix combinations that arent a thing in live. but i suppose they can do w/e they want
warm plinth
Yeah lol
potent anvil
raging fortified is such a terrible combo. feelsbad
warm plinth
Yeah
oblique garnet
raging fortified
on waycrest
is just something i wouldnt want to wish on my worst enemy
potent anvil
the captains and guards even on a 22 tyran this week hit hard as a truck. imagine fort 18 and then have raging on top 🤢
oblique garnet
yeah its ridiculous how much damage they do
and then you have those raging matrons
like 1 tick throuh the raging thorned barrage without sb will kill you
And then you have all kinds of other horrible adds
That you have to kill to get the count
On top of grievious
potent anvil
Yep, seems like a bad time overall.
warm plinth
What was the third one on AD with Fort/Rage?
oblique garnet
Explo
warm plinth
Ah yeah
warm plinth
Good luck
sullen trench
you can still get the hidden artifact appearance for prot right?
warm plinth
Yep
stoic pilot
Is there anybody tanking left add on Opulence? Curious about good spots to tank him during fire beams, was doing at the gate without moving it around but not sure if that's ideal.
celest gate
warm plinth
Hell yes, nice!!
dusty flume
@stoic pilot you mean opulence?
stoic pilot
yeah.. sorry brain is fried atm
old night
im a shitter and forgot, whats the prot haste cap
orchid token
i just tank left dude in the middle of the room
and slowly walk him towards the gate over time as the room fills up with lightning and lasers
naive panther
i tank left at gate
people complained once and tried otehrwise but super easy on gate imo
warm plinth
@old night No cap; the only breakpoint would be at 100% where the GCD stops decreasing.
warm plinth
But ability CDs would still decrease past that point.
old night
how do i check that
warm plinth
Check what?
raw solar
Hello guys im new here and have some questions about a few stuff. Ive played in Blizzard with bdk and prot pala(1600rio in 8.0). Me and some friends decided to play a private server which is just releasing uldir and mm+. Will i be accepted here ?
And from my expirience in the class discords people are high level with info and stuff
warm plinth
I don't think there's any rule against it, but not everything we tell you would necessarily apply to your server either, since you're on an older patch.
raw solar
we are on 8.0.1 tho the release before 8.1 prepatch
Thank you. I wanted to ask while progressing to push mm+ (10+) and raid is it better to use stam flask or str flask ? Also what traits should i try to stack for mm+ heavily if i should?
warm plinth
I believe in 8.0.1, DC was still fully stackable, so I would imagine you want 3 of those. Str flask would still be your best bet.
Or no, DC just didn't have the cap on extension; never mind
You do definitely want one DC. The rest I think would likely match what everyone is running now.
Except that you want one of the Uldir trait if you're raiding
raw solar
okey thank you alot 😃 btw i feel incomplete without IP off the gcd 😦
i guess i shouldnt waste gcd for ip in that patch right ?
warm plinth
No you'll still use it relatively the same way afaik. It'll just be more awkward
vocal skiff
I think my fledgling M+ group will fall apart lol
warm plinth
RIP
raw solar
okey ty ghash
vocal skiff
We tried to do the skip on tol dagor
warm plinth
Sure thing Atine
vocal skiff
I pulled the 2 big guys into the crocs
So the rest of the group passes by
Healer kept getting in combat
oblique garnet
Probably because he healed you
warm plinth
Silly healers trying to save people's lives
vocal skiff
We botched the skips, and it kept frustrating me, and leading to mistakes like, should I release or not
just not very fun
And then the rogue rage quit apparently
Found out the culprit: the healer's echo of light healed me
It is disc or holy's mastery lol
warm plinth
Ah, which means he healed you within 6 seconds prior to you guys attempting the skip
fresh valley
yeah gotta click off all hot's when death skipping like that
orchid token
You don't
An already existing hot will not put the healer in combat
Only fresh buffs applied after getting in combat like echo
proper dock
So I looked over the guide, did not see anything about bonded souls. Some chatter about how it’s great if both raid tanks have 1 trait of this, is that worth the trade off of better traits?
dusky summit
Is a 400 shield with socket better than a 405 shield?
halcyon fable
Got my 415 shield off champs this week. Feels good
novel pebble
which token do i roll for 415 helm chest or shoulders
junior ivy
hi
undone sun
👋
scarlet basalt
Dota 2
junior ivy
nooo
half jewel
is there a reason someone would chose Earthlink over Crystalline Carapace? Noticed some ppl taking it instead and was just wondering why.
warm plinth
Earthlink gives you more damage is the most likely reason.
half jewel
thats what i was thinking but wanted to check
junior ivy
whats everyone doinggg
astral crystal
poopin
undone sun
dying
halcyon fable
Working
junior ivy
someone play game or somehting with me
orchid token
no BOM active
dense flame
can anyone link me a good seige route this week?
fresh valley
I have 8% vers. Yum.
Ive started going safeguard 100% of the time, and been finding it invaluable in keeping dumb people alive. Really enables me to carry a dungeon even harder. Especially on tyrannical weeks.
warped thorn
whats the best zandalari loa for prot atm?
last elk
400 Diamon-laced Refracting Prism with socket or 410 version of the same trinket without the socket. what do yall think?
umbral forge
I'd go with 410 for more better shield
rough egret
Whats the diff there in regards of absorb?
drowsy relic
probs the 410 version
rough egret
Yeah I would go for that 410 aswell
last elk
gotcha, thanks. I'll hold on to both just incase but will give the 410 a go
stoic pilot
Here’s a question, at what m+ level does Diamond trinket (opulence) actually become pretty worth using? I haven’t really gotten into many sketchy situations so far in 18s or the couple 19s I’ve ran. Asking since I just got a 410 diamond and I’m running 410 vial of animated blood atm
lusty grotto
well if you dont need it, dont us eit
drowsy relic
tbh you dont really need it at anylevel, just use what youre comfortable with
umbral forge
imho, and I might be mistaken in this, Diamond Trinket isn't as much as a life safer as people pretend it to be.
It's a massive mana preserver for the Healer however, with how much it reduces the amount of healing you need in a run.
lusty grotto
looks like you're in a situation where you don't need to be extra defensive to pull big
but on fort weeks in order to pull big you will need to build defensively
this week is easy as shit
stoic pilot
With my current gear setup I’ve mostly just built around damage since most of the screw ups I don’t sit there and think if I had diff gear it would’ve went better
lusty grotto
and it shouldn't be benchmark for anything
stoic pilot
This is in combination with last week as well
umbral forge
last week was bolstering so certain big pulls were locked out to us
lusty grotto
yup