Unluck
#protection
tidal scarab
nova gale
Yikes
sick sentinel
we got nobody banned because we are good boys
nova gale
My team is ready at 18. But imma play with some others i guess
Got some spicy keys for tonight :) :)
tidal scarab
Yeah he a bad boy and has to go away for the weekend so legit only getting 2 days of big clap on next affixes. Makes me a bit sad
sick sentinel
(and they all dodged the ban like it's the matrix)
umbral forge
You guys think you could solo tank first boss on hc using a burn tactic?
tidal scarab
Pretty sure you can do it on Mythic
sick sentinel
you can
ionic fern
Yep, you can.
tidal scarab
1 tank, 1 heal, 18 dps
umbral forge
What about Jadefire
tidal scarab
Better be a fat mistweaver though
orchid token
does anyone have an efflo WA
umbral forge
I guess fire debuff makes Jadefire hard to solo
umbral forge
Oh hi necrys
orchid token
stop trying to solo raids
and find me a weakaura
that will make my healer not be mad at me
umbral forge
No its the most enjoyable part of the game
My guild will get stuck at 3/9 mythic so might as well find some enjoyment.
tidal scarab
I would say the big ass green circle is a good indicator if you are in it or not but then again half the time I'm not in it myself. Should probably pay more attention to it
orchid token
yeah, looking for something more screamy at me
maybe i can just make a WA conditional on having a druid in the group
and then it yells if efflo isnt on me
then just trust that the healer will always have it down
umbral forge
My friend came home from the military, spent 3 days gearing his Druid and was top DPS in raid yesterday.
It's depressive.
"Your best DPS parses blue, your average parses green and 3 parses grey. They weren't even dead"
nova gale
My boi Maug
umbral forge
He's 391 now. We've done a few 9-12 keys. Few groups will accept a 380 boomie
old zephyr
Went on an "alt raid" yesterday but with ony 4 alts
umbral forge
Still using DMF trinket though the scrub
old zephyr
They were consistently top 5 dps
zinc vessel
Yikes
umbral forge
Oh yeah! Bromigo, did you hear what I did yesterday?
It's really minor for Mythic raiders I guess but I'm happy about it.
nova gale
What did you do man?
umbral forge
nova gale
Neat! 😃
umbral forge
it's
the only area where I've found an use for the Bwon trinket
was a total mess though, next time will be prettier.
old zephyr
Did you just bwon the triple smash combo ?
opal peak
oh Pog they ended up letting u do it
opal peak
oh lol was it some1 else then that was gunna do it and was told no?
umbral forge
I mostly just ignore pained through it.
I can take 2 bestial smashes without dying. 3 in a row happened twice and I called for guardian spirit for the second one, bwonsamdi took the first one
I died once after a terrible leap on my part
but we had ancestral revival totem up so it was fine
umbral forge
it's the most fun I've had in in the raid
old zephyr
5 healers though
umbral forge
Yeah it was unnecessary
one guy showed up and was like "Hi I'm healer"
and we were just doing farm and didn't notice he was resto
thought he was a boomie
opal peak
even without him - 1 tank 4 healer gun be less dps than 2 tank 2 healers - tho the meme's
old zephyr
Yesterday during thrash I consistently riped aggro from the tank while dpsing as Rdruid
I was like wut
opal peak
were u healing too?
old zephyr
Nah just dpsing
opal peak
odd
heavy chasm
Click...? What is this 2004?
old zephyr
If you got à mechanical keyboard it "clicks"
old zephyr
And according to they noises of People that can't setup mics properly, a lot of l'y guildies have them
weary thorn
still using keyboard buttons to cast spells like this is 2015.. welcome to 2019 where your mice have more buttons than the keyboards
Also, yesterday got my first mythic opulence kill...realized too late I was still on fury loot spec. Shake my smh 4head
heavy chasm
Ouch man. F
umbral forge
did you get any loot
heavy chasm
grats on oppulance though. Dude really shows the monkeys
weary thorn
I got boots, so I mean the 5 ilvl was nice. Didnt have any coins to spend because we were pushing m+ earlier in the reset
And yea, they had me dps a bit and I can see why dps can have issues on mythic op
if someone trolls you with a shitty swap placement it can hurt
weary thorn
right, except they dropped me in a lava filled room and to get out I had to get hit by a flame pillar
soooo it ran out
and I died
ionic fern
Wait until you get to Mekka..there you will see how horrible people can be with the bomb/teleport placements.
😒
umbral forge
I hate Mekka
heavy chasm
But yeah I've dpsed some pulls and people can definitely dick you
umbral forge
Absolutely despise
weary thorn
yea, I've heard horror stories about mekka
weary thorn
we moved on to conc last night and made it to akunda before we ran out of time for pulls
surprisingly not as difficult as I'd expected
heavy chasm
That seems to be the norm
You get oppul you'll knock out clave and rasta pretty quick
Then you hit your next wall at mekka and onward lol
weary thorn
right, seems to be what I've read in most of the tanking discords
especially if you are Shrike and spend something like 150 pulls on mekka before the guild implodes >.>
heavy chasm
We haven't gotten oppul you. People keep tunneling and forgetting gold. But that just seems to be what I've seen around the discs etc too
oblique garnet
mekka is a fight where one person can fuck up everyone
ionic fern
^
oblique garnet
can and will
heavy chasm
Same with oppulance on gold phase,which is why they are likely the considered substantial walls imo
weary thorn
Once we got to op it only took about 3 pulls to down him
it was the splitting that was hard for some of our dps
like yalat/hand p1
heavy chasm
We got to execute range. And then wiped because gold XD feels horrible
weary thorn
oof
ours was super close
we were backing op up because space was getting tight
I'm in a weird spot. I got absorbed from a heroic only guild into this mythic guild. So my only tanked and cleared boss is opulence
I still need the first 3
ionic fern
Don't worry. My BDK only has 1 mythic boss and it's Mekka.
weary thorn
thats more impressive
oblique garnet
thats actually the case with most bdks
opal peak
lol
weary thorn
grip for robo adds yea?
ionic fern
Jep.
oblique garnet
yup
lusty grotto
Mmo mice 🤢
opal peak
my warrior has gotten 3 once, i need to try and get him into another run
oblique garnet
only purpose they have atm
ionic fern
I told them i'm coming on warr for the re-kill tho..idk who will grip now. 😂
opal peak
@lusty grotto 😡
weary thorn
haha, fair enough. I've got a bdk shelved at like 402 right now
umbral forge
G903 master race
lusty grotto
🤝 jettom
weary thorn
imagine not having a different mouse for different games...big oof
oblique garnet
g402 masterrace
weary thorn
g903 master fps race, then trinity for mmo
mossy night
Better late than pregnant
opal peak
i used to roll g602 but now g600
ionic fern
I'm still using the old-school mouse with the ball-chamber below it. Clean it every once in a while and we good to go.
lusty grotto
Nice
mossy night
pro
umbral forge
no
oblique garnet
i use trackpad
opal peak
idk i like having buttons on my mouse rather than having my fingers try to reach random keybinds
mossy night
hahahahahahaha you're literally late
lusty grotto
I can't deal without dpi settings though
mossy night
ooof
weary thorn
you can set dpi on a mouse with ball chamber. Just add lint to the rollers 4head
opal peak
wha
lusty grotto
But props for staying old school mwahi
ionic fern
^
oblique garnet
cant play fps with that mouse tho
heavy chasm
Well you can
umbral forge
I looked at your pfp cuddles
heavy chasm
If getting fuckt is your jam
opal peak
monkaS
ionic fern
Also..i miss floppy disks. 😦
weary thorn
5in or 3.5?
mossy night
gettin' fuckt is my jam
opal peak
i made it my pfp when some1 was going to give away the pig mount and said heck weebs and i had a weeb pfp so i had to make a quick change to yoink the pig
@umbral forge
ionic fern
3.5
umbral forge
ooh
mossy night
gaming the game
weary thorn
had one in highschool for my powerpoints...that couldnt take up more than what 1.5mb?
i forget the original memory space
ionic fern
Think it was something like that jeah. 😂
Imagine installing a 50GB game on them...like 32k Floppy disks.
weary thorn
ha
the struggle of choosing a pixelated graphic for your presentation or a bad ass star wipe outtro
only had so much room
oblique garnet
what is this average age of #protection must be atleast in 30s
weary thorn
seems that way @oblique garnet
heavy chasm
I mean once floppy disc talk comes out your probably not wrong @oblique garnet
ionic fern
And no one asks "What's that".
umbral forge
What's what
ionic fern
"It's the save icon kids".
weary thorn
prot warriors will be the ones who remember why a microsoft save icon looks the way it does
oblique garnet
"Oh my god dad have you seen this save icon irl"
sweet kettle
I am 22
oblique garnet
same
undone sun
almost 23
umbral forge
24
weary thorn
"who are y'all protecting?" "the past"
ionic fern
- 😒
sick sentinel
I'm like 19
weary thorn
31
heavy chasm
26
sweet kettle
People who don't know about floppy disks are propably clueless
oblique garnet
fortnite gamers
ionic fern
Fuck, no..28 now
oblique garnet
wait
weary thorn
thats two years mwahi
opal peak
ooph
oblique garnet
oh i thought you got 2 years wrong
ionic fern
ONE
weary thorn
how tf you lose 2 years
ionic fern
😂
undone sun
lol
opal peak
he said 27, he only lost a year
sweet kettle
Too old to even count his age feels badman
opal peak
and tbh can u blame him?
ionic fern
^
heavy chasm
Have a kid man
opal peak
he's getting close to 30
heavy chasm
That's how you lose years
ionic fern
I already have a kid. 😒
oblique garnet
i mean
heavy chasm
My son was born in 2016. Idk where the fuck it went
oblique garnet
its easy to lose track of years tbh
weary thorn
goodness, I was in Afghanistan when @sick sentinel was about to get into highschool
ionic fern
😂
opal peak
man half the time i forget how old i am
heavy chasm
It's weird when you start feeling old even when your not.
Like a song comes on from your childhood and your like mind blown
weary thorn
I dont feel old until I realize I play games with people half my age
heavy chasm
I cant imagine how people in like their 50s or higher feel
Especially with how fast tech goes
weary thorn
plays golf and doesnt worry about why his iphone is slow
opal peak
the discord im more active in is like mostly 18ish yr olds and sometimes i forget and then they say something and i question y i'm there
sweet kettle
We all here for the memes
heavy chasm
Exactly. Its weird enough when like less then 5 years can make a big difference
opal peak
u dont realize how age differences work until u hear an 18yr old's opinion on something
monkaS
heavy chasm
Never mind decades
signal plover
The biggest memelords in my guild are like 30+ yr old surgeons lol
heavy chasm
Somethings gotta keep em sane with all that stress
heavy chasm
I used to play clash of clans with a like 50 year ortho surgeon
Dude was super solid
weary thorn
cuddles, are you having a stroke?
opal peak
idk man
weary thorn
do you need us to call you a bondulance?
opal peak
idk how i've made it this far in school
heavy chasm
Because you can't fat finger pen and paper?
opal peak
wha - who tf uses pen and paper
heavy chasm
...
heavy chasm
Do.. do they not do that in like grade school anymore?
heavy chasm
Like is my kid not going to use a pencil in kinder garden?
opal peak
it's been like a decade monkaS
heavy chasm
I still had to do it in high school and college
weary thorn
7th graders use a lot of computers and tablets depending on the district
opal peak
there are very few classes in undergrad that i used pen and paper
heavy chasm
So like math?
opal peak
prob
heavy chasm
Or math based ones maybe?
opal peak
i'd prob be smarter if i used pen and paper
heavy chasm
Yeah but major is old man. #30 is old or something
opal peak
like i wouldnt be in discord and would instead be listening to my professor 😃
weary thorn
my body is 31, my mind is younger. I meme to stay young
heavy chasm
Hahaha just joshing my dude
opal peak
i feel that
weary thorn
its all good man
heavy chasm
I've always been called an old soul
weary thorn
I got old man knees and a shit back
jumping out of perfectly good aircraft will do that
heavy chasm
People see me and guess I'm like mid to late 30s
I've been told I'm going to age terribly feels guud
heavy chasm
Oh yeah I'll just embrace it
I would prefer they give you a choice. Doing math based show your work shit on a computer feels fucked
opal peak
man im a few years under u major and i too have bad knees, bad back, goin bald
bad ankles
im a broken man
heavy chasm
Do some yoga or light exercise cuddles
weary thorn
I was born with my father's hairline. People used to joke on me for a combover, motherfucker I just have a receding hairline since I was 14
heavy chasm
Re work that foundation
opal peak
lol
heavy chasm
I hear that major
opal peak
my dad and myself had a ton of hair at young age, his lasted much longer than mine tho
heavy chasm
You can land a 7 47 on my forehead
weary thorn
lol
opal peak
mine started to go away when i was like 19
weary thorn
and I do yoga, its helped a lot with restoring mobility
opal peak
now i just shave
heavy chasm
Dont underestimate yoga
opal peak
i mean my back isn't terrible - just a little iffy, i just lift, yoga isn't gains or video games so
cba
heavy chasm
Oh God your one of them
opal peak
4Head
heavy chasm
My city has so many like "power lifters"
ionic fern
I play WoW.
heavy chasm
Just loftheavy to eat whatever the fuck they want
Being fit is way harder haha
Lift 5 days a week, run a flight of stairs and need 15 minutes lol
astral crystal
go bearmode or go home
opal peak
i lift mon-fri tho 1 day is a core day so not much "lifting" - i wish i could run but i swam in undergrad and got a stress fracture on my ankle 1 year from our practices and it's hecked my ankles since
so running isn't too fun - not worth
weary thorn
ah I got around that by using an elliptical
running on asphalt for years made my ankles not enjoy it, but the elliptical is low impact
opal peak
fair - tho it's kinda boring
weary thorn
just have to run at a faster pace to get use out of it if you run
it is, but getting fat is worse for me
opal peak
like i'd love to go run around campus and the lakes
heavy chasm
Throw some toons on
opal peak
but it kills my ankles
weary thorn
the extra weight wrecks my lower back
heavy chasm
Watch movies or memes while you do it
Or stationary cycling etc.
Outdoor is way better if you can do it. But theirs work arounds
opal peak
ya tru
weary thorn
rowing as well
opal peak
ooph rowing is tough
mossy night
I just listen to my books while I walk
weary thorn
yea, but lik zero lower body impact
opal peak
my dad bought 1 for the house that I use when i go home once in awhile
i generally do like 5 min or so warm up at the gym on core days
i like the rower - its just killer lol
heavy chasm
If you want gains, do your running last
weary thorn
I dont want gains atm
opal peak
wha
weary thorn
im heavy enough
opal peak
eh there are counter arguments tho
heavy chasm
Always will be
opal peak
like u hinder the gains by running after - i used to know the actual arguments on both sides
weary thorn
right now I'm more about maint. and slimming down. I'm only lifting to avoid losing too much mass
opal peak
but been too long
heavy chasm
It's all pretty subjective but it depends. Like if your pushing for a PR you should just go for it. Then do a cooldown run etc afterwards
opal peak
bc by running after u already burned a lot of ur energy so ur body starts like defeating ur gains to give u the cardio energy
or something like that
opal peak
not exactly, but i dont remember enough to actually give valid reasoning
heavy chasm
It's all gravey.
oblique garnet
man this is not /r/fit this is #protection we all are nerds who play videogames smh
unborn island
probably just do heavy squats instead of all other exercise
heavy chasm
What if I told you you could be both
unborn island
😃
heavy chasm
Lel
opal peak
and dish 1 out
modern brook
Late's got the idea
sweet kettle
That's why when I am tanking my body hurts
weary thorn
what idea is that?
modern brook
There's discords for fitness discussion
sweet kettle
My character can take it but not me
modern brook
this aint it
heavy chasm
I did my heavy lifting phase and said that's enough. I dont wanna end up all crippled because I lifted something a few inches too many etc.
weary thorn
What prot discussion did we derail?
opal peak
listen
modern brook
Yeah but this ones lame
heavy chasm
We didnt Haha we just went with it
opal peak
lol
unborn island
do heavy squats....until your ass causes thunderclaps because beast glutes
modern brook
buncha nerds pretending they understand biology
weary thorn
bullfango hangs out at planet fitness waiting to taunt guys that activate the lunk alarm
heavy chasm
I does my research. I'm lurned mm k
modern brook
Imagine going to planet fitness in 2019
weary thorn
so like, everybody that wants to get fit but is fat and intimidated?
unborn island
cardio is tanking stuff that might kill you - heart rate up to 120 bpm as standard
weary thorn
imagine shaming in 2019
oblique garnet
oh yeah you guys are americans where that is a touchy subject
unborn island
anyways - anyone else psyched for Teeming without fortified for some big claps?
heavy chasm
Can confirm
weary thorn
this week is ez clap week
heavy chasm
Maximum clappage
unborn island
more claps than a 19th century brothel
sweet kettle
Any week that isn't fortified week is a nice week
modern brook
sorry major didnt know u went to Pfit
unborn island
and lolcanic too
weary thorn
I dont, but I dont judge those who do if they want to improve
weary thorn
read above
zenith cosmos
rerolled to prot like 3 weeks ago to focus on M+, already pushed to 2100 rio with friend and wanted to ask about having 3 thunderclap traits, sims tell me its my best dmg output which makes sense, icy veins says to only have 1 and then 3 avatar and then 2 defensive traits, but do the defensive traits make a big difference? I'd be able to have like a blood sport and a shield block one vs 2 more clap traits?
modern brook
@zenith cosmos icy veins recomendation are from an overall perspective
zenith cosmos
hoping to push 19s and 20s next week
modern brook
ie: defense w/ offense
unborn island
I think Deswind was doing keys in the 20s with 3DC/3BoM
modern brook
2 and 3 dc's are purely offensie
very good, no defensive value
if you can grab them without dying
go for it
heavy chasm
Bom is great because it's both
unborn island
basically that
modern brook
also grats on 2k
unborn island
this week, just clap eveyrthing to death, no dangerous affixes
zenith cosmos
Okay so it literally is just, if im not dying go more damage
modern brook
i mean yeah thats tanking written into a sentence
heavy chasm
May as well
zenith cosmos
And sims are also telling me haste is still good, got like 1700 of it, is there like some point where its pointless to go more?
unborn island
no
modern brook
haste is always good
heavy chasm
Unless being beefier means bigger pulls
modern brook
ITF stacks multiplicatively with more haste
zenith cosmos
mastery is low but i guess avatar covers that with 3 traits in it right?
modern brook
ie: more haste u have more ITF gives
unborn island
stat's don't matter
heavy chasm
Correct
modern brook
^^^^^^
modern brook
Whos gear is it anyways, where the stats dont matter and we only look at ilvl
zenith cosmos
and also thoughts on trinkets? Got 400 rezans haste thingy, 410 socket from underrot and a 420 one from shrine
modern brook
rezans haste thingy 👀
heavy chasm
I'd go rezan and vial imo
unborn island
unless it's sporepods 😛
heavy chasm
Vial with avatar is nice
modern brook
I'd probably also go rez vial
zenith cosmos
Ah no i got a 400 socket one form waycrest that gives the crit, which sims my best by a long way
sweet kettle
Yeah
zenith cosmos
so its just second choice
unborn island
butcher's block is good
heavy chasm
Oh right, if its spore dont
modern brook
Block is good when u have 1700 haste
unborn island
I use rezan/butcher's block
zenith cosmos
vial sims higher but obviously the haste one gives more
modern brook
Heres the prot secret man
unborn island
if I had a decent vial I'd consider swapping block
modern brook
Usually u'd want to go for ilvl on jewelery too
But like u ahve 2k io score and arent dying w/ 3dc
zenith cosmos
no worries there i'm set for jewellery 😄
modern brook
u can get away with whatever makes u happy on the trinket set up
Gore Vial is probably the most damage
zenith cosmos
What makes me happy is a 420 briny barnacle but it just seems to do noodle damage, maybe better next week though because less hp + more adds?
in EU so its tomorrow for me the teeming week
modern brook
🤷 barnacle is a pretty meh trinket if im remembering it right
modern brook
"better then dog shit"
zenith cosmos
So is the vial from what ive seen on sims, like 4th worst but you guys saying its good? Is that purely because its front-loaded with avatar+shout burst?
modern brook
I mean ur right on both counts
weary thorn
sporepods is the bdk trait of trinkets
umbral forge
oof
brisk ferry
woooow
modern brook
P much @zenith cosmos
Turns out more damage during the window we do damage is p good
Vial is generally up every 2nd avatar w/ AM
~2k str is also just a fuck ton from a defensive standpoint as well
if ur ever in a super weird position where u need a defensive and have none but have vial up for whatever reason'
Vials only downside is passive mastery
IIRC 425 vial is like 180 mast
and like while stats are sex Vial is used to augment Avatar, and BoM fucks u up with mast
weary thorn
I feel like if the trinket is the thing keeping you alive, you're already in a a pretty bad position
modern brook
Oh yeah 100%
As of yesterday my new philosophy is that prot gearing is fake
do whatever u want
if ur over 405 avg ilvl and are dying, its not your gear its u beinga fucking monkey
modern brook
Only 75 :^(
weary thorn
the prot pally had his diamond break before mine was even off cd
so I took it back before it was up for sweep or w/e
still lived
modern brook
SB is op af on that fight
modern brook
I get mad when my co tank taunts off me in p2 oppu
zenith cosmos
thanks for all the advice guys, given me a lot of good stuff and will mess around with the trinkets 😃
weary thorn
when in doubt sim it out
modern brook
I've been writing my own APLs
weary thorn
kinda
modern brook
when i started writing off whatwe had it was doing weird stuff like uhhh
fuck i cant remember
but it was like clearly wrong
I think it was like not clapping every global or sometihng IDK
weary thorn
thats as bad as marrowrending at 9 stacks
floral spade
405 with a socket jes howler or 395 rezan? Opinions
weary thorn
whats your other trinket
floral spade
400 vial
weary thorn
405 with socket is gonna be good regardless, and jes aint bad. I'd sim both combo's though anyway
takes you 3 minutes
halcyon fable
should I be using a str gem?
weary thorn
I socket haste personally, but thats because some of my gear is doodoo
halcyon fable
im socketed and enchanting haste atm, at 1305 haste
heavy chasm
Man I drop jes and I end up at like 22 verse
modern brook
heavy chasm
Wish I could keep that all the time
modern brook
weary thorn
I like jes too, but passive trinkets are just so easy
modern brook
Jes more like Bes-t throw that in the trash
weary thorn
lol
modern brook
too mayn worsds >:^(
weary thorn
althought I'd like a butcher block
modern brook
Im rezan alch rn
weary thorn
I've been thinkin of going alch, but I'm engi/mining right now
might do that if I get a better helm soon
modern brook
🤷 alch engi is like a super OP combo rn
I wouldnt suggest shifting for the trinket though
its like a solid B
its major value being an easy-access 415
weary thorn
right, thats a fair point
modern brook
but alch engie, to my knowledge, provide the most in-combat benefit of all professions
between 2h flasks and uhhh the big dumb idiot revive button
modern brook
and the belt enchants 😮
I recently found out FRIED bombs count as potions
which means I now prepot all my pulls :^)
modern brook
They share a CD, at the very least
modern brook
🤷
heavy chasm
I ditched my mining for enchanting for mats
But thinking of making my warrior an alchemist along with every other character I have lol
jovial haven
all 3 of my tanks are eng/alch
modern brook
My war is alch, my rogue isnt
I spend ~3k a week more on flasks on my rogue than my war
in fairness,i raid with my rogue , so im doing a lot more flasked content
big secret: flasks pandemic
modern brook
yeah when i raided on my warrior i always popped the 3rd mystic flask before i logged off = ez 150 min flask timer
weary thorn
okay, so question. Is it a specific pandemic window, or they just pandemic at whatever % you consume them at
I thought that pandemic used to only be applicable in the last x% of a timer
modern brook
^
weary thorn
ok
clear cradle
The buff shows 3hrs but it's a lie
modern brook
they always round up
clear cradle
Big blizzard trying to get you to waste flask
weary thorn
wow, thanks Oblizzard
weary thorn
I'm just thinking I might go alch just for the flasks and trinket if necessary
drop mining for it
If I need money I'll just dance at the auction house
or get a token
weary thorn
especially now that I'm in a proper mythic prog guild
modern brook
"I'm super down to run X key with you but I have no money for food :^("
weary thorn
ha
umbral forge
how do you even sell a key
heavy chasm
I don't and cant really bring my self to do it
Because good God that spam is fucking real
With tokens my dude
clear cradle
I've sold a few keys for gold but it takes forever on populated servers unless you undercut and then what's the point
weary thorn
just seems like a headache, but understandable if you are unable/unwilling to spend money on tokens for auction
heavy chasm
Yeah I'm frugal I'll make do with what I got before I throw money for gold
Although I did buy a thicc boii with my gold. So bit lower then I'd like but its w.e.
weary thorn
from what Ive seen the thicc bois can look super whack with various xmogs
half of them look like Jack Black in a painted on tuxedo
weary thorn
ah alright
the bod chest piece looks terrible on them imo
rather, the leather one does. No idea on plate
weary thorn
yea, I just remember seeing various monk mogs with them and they looked terrible in general
heavy chasm
Weapon animations are decent tho
weary thorn
if I played alliance I might have given them a go. Still on maghar right now though
heavy chasm
I've contemplated going horde. Just a bigger pool to pull from. But that just adds to the problem further rather then do anything to combat it
weary thorn
I've been horde since I came back to wow in wod. Never really worried about population or racials, its just where my friends were
jovial haven
can't combat it as just 1 person. I had trouble doing keys as alliance, since I went horde I never have trouble getting a group for keys
heavy chasm
Most my friends tended to play horde, but then they always end up quitting after a month
So I figured I'm not going to continue re rolling
weary thorn
yea, none of my old friends play anymore, so I just found a new group lol
jovial haven
understandable, but 1 thing always rings true in WoW, you have to do what's best for you. I left a 3 guild community on alliance and went horde, and have done more and had more fun ever since
stoic pilot
Are you EU or NA wickedsorrow?
jovial haven
NA
stoic pilot
Everyone always says they have issues doing keys on alliance
But there’s usually a lot of groups up at the very least
open bluff
less a matter of finding groups for some
and more a matter of finding groups capable of said keys depending on level
jovial haven
There are groups, I seen them all the time, but so many people had trouble getting into them for one reason or another
stoic pilot
I can’t comment on horde side but it doesn’t seem impossible on alliance
open bluff
missed time on a 12 TD because the dps swore they knew the dungeon and the hpal and i had to explain every fucking mechanic
jovial haven
it's not impossible, but I just found better success on horde.
heavy chasm
I think a part of it is the stage of the current season
stoic pilot
I wish I didn’t have commitments to alliance I’d really like to see the differences
jovial haven
i left last season
heavy chasm
People think its ilvl/I.o equals all
Together its an indication and better then nothing. But both can be inflated by circumstance not neccesarily sole merit
open bluff
i trust io over ilvl generally
jovial haven
I did a 9 TD last night before bed on 377 prot pally alt and we chested it. I wouldn't have been able to do that on alliance
open bluff
if someone's got low io but high ilvl i just check their logs
stoic pilot
Although I haven’t had good luck with boomkins in general
I really wish I could run into just one good one
open bluff
even carried my daughter's boyfriend through a 12 freehold last night and he didn't know shit about the dungeon
weary thorn
I've had similar meeker, but with a DH. 1.4k io, 411 ilvl. He did 3.5k dps overall in a 12 UR
modern brook
Freehold isa joke though
stoic pilot
Lmao
open bluff
jovial haven
wasn't saying tol was hard, was more referring to on alliance side you're not pugging a 9 at 377ilvl
modern brook
freehold is like maw of souls if maw of souls didnt have insta-gib mechanics
open bluff
yeah but 15 deaths normally makes things a little trickier, especially if it's one person
stoic pilot
If it’s the carry? Meh
open bluff
i'm not disagreeing
modern brook
quick sied bar: is it time walking yeT?
heavy chasm
See 377 isnt even bad. Like it's a 9. If there was indication he wasnt an apr I'd go with it
modern brook
or are we pet battlers this week?
open bluff
my group's run that so much we could probably do it blindfolded and still two chested it if the carry was uh
competent
jovial haven
nope, think this week is bfa mythics @modern brook
stoic pilot
Bull I think it’s dungeon week
open bluff
dungeon week
modern brook
siiiick
heavy chasm
But I know I'm an anomaly
modern brook
dungeon week gives me a chub
jovial haven
free gear week
modern brook
gotta finish leveling my LOCK
vocal skiff
Any reason to do them if you are over 400 ilvl
open bluff
i mean
heavy chasm
Dat AP?
open bluff
if you're doing 4+ dungeons this week already anyway
no reason to not pick up the quest first of all
vocal skiff
I didn't think M+ counted
open bluff
it does
stoic pilot
P.S.A you should be
heavy chasm
And or probably passive finish
stoic pilot
It’s teeming tyrannical volcanic week
open bluff
m+ is still mythic
stoic pilot
You should do a million this week
open bluff
but yeah, if there are things you could still use from bod at 400 ilvl you should pick it up
but the ap reward alone is worth it and honestly you're just getting a free piece of gear for what you'll already be doing anyway
so it's not like you have to do anything special other than remember to pick the quest up
vocal skiff
understood
stoic pilot
On horde side is it a pain in the ass to get the weekly quest?
I know on alliance he’s RIGHT next to the inn
vocal skiff
nah
sand kettle
Just get it through the Shift+J menu
open bluff
(M+ is actually probably easier to do too now that you actually have to do all the bosses in a dungeon to get credit)
freehold detected, fun removed
jovial haven
another reason to do the weekly is in case it WF/TF
open bluff
it counted in legion too actually
modern brook
😠
modern brook
😠
strong forum
Same tbh
dense flame
Gotta love groups who think that dungeons will magically go well with limited coordination or planning while pushing. Or think that no mistakes can be made
jovial haven
rip killing harlan 4x for fast weekly
dense flame
Like do people watch top player streams? They fuck up pulls all the time learning. Grief keys
It’s not uncommon but people seem to not expect any learning curves or failed keys.
sick sentinel
best to just get a group of people with the same mindset as you and willing to learn / accept failure
it's not a natural skillset, many people are taught it's not ok to fail
dense flame
Yup, actually annoying dealing with those players.
timber nest
So I have equal ilevel R.A.G.E and rezans eye, both have Kerch, my 2nd trinket is a socketed gore crusted from waycrest. Which would you prefer?
Both have leech*
sick sentinel
I would go with rezans
oblique garnet
I expect perfection everytime i do keys 0 mistakes were made (8
open bluff
rezan's/block
sick sentinel
@dense flame it's different fucking up sometimes and fucking up literally every pull
timber nest
Fi should also mention that they are all 400 ilevel but I guess that doesn’t matter much
jovial haven
the ilvl on them does matter, always good to mention that
dense flame
In my example we cheated 18 UR, 18 TD, 17 tempo. Then moved to shrine 18. Some of the groups coordination were off on kicks ended up wiping to attendants. Then we did another shrine wiped due to accidentally snagging more initiates then intended. After that group got really butthurt. Chested random pug 17 no problem immediately after. It’s like cmon lol
modern brook
Shrine is hard af last week
hard af == if u fuck up literally anything a trash pull goes from 50s to 2 mins
dense flame
?!?!? Right? Needed coordination and interupts. Group was like don’t die to water blast 4head.
modern brook
xd
I swear to god the most common phrase i say in that dungeon is "please kick waterblasts nothing else"
ionic fern
There are times where you just get really lucky with pug's and they absolutely demolish things and interrupt correct things but most of the times it's the opposite. If people leave over a couple of wipes on things that could be prevented via appropriate communication then they do not belong there in the first place.
dense flame
Agreed. Im hoping after a certain IO breakpoint things begin to adjust.
ionic fern
Get a set group and things will go a lot smoother
sick sentinel
We had chill runs yesterday for hours
Agreed with @ionic fern
Then we went into a siege
vocal skiff
siege was cancerous last week
sick sentinel
And just quit after first boss
There was not a single pull where things went as they should
ionic fern
Did you bolster eeeverything that was not to get bolstered?
silver tangle
what are best streamer to watch(eu time)
dense flame
Hahahaha gotta love siege bolster coordination
vocal skiff
Yesterday I did a Shrine, and in the runecarver pull (no rogue), I told demon hunter to pull so I could tank the mini boss far
sick sentinel
Also when I say "we" I mean me, the healer and the dh
vocal skiff
He answered with an "?"
sick sentinel
Because we were running double rogue dh
vocal skiff
He couldn't understand
sick sentinel
And both rogues had to go
vocal skiff
So someone else pulled, but still bolstered the runecarver by 1
ionic fern
silver tangle
@ionic fern thanks
sick sentinel
And a boomkin and a different rogue joined
ionic fern
You can also check all the previous streams in twitch at a time that's convenient for you.
mellow abyss
quick question should i ever use mastery gems or just keep usin haste as prot
mellow abyss
tyvm
modern brook
i have it saved
Every single question we get is some variation of "why haste"
and that is the single most important paragraph to understand when gearing a prot warrior
this really should just be pinned tbh
west kayak
Finally got a Rezan trinket, 410 too. :)
modern brook
gratz
opal peak
pog
sick sentinel
grats
brisk ferry
nice grats
sick sentinel
Upgrades!
west kayak
Been running Ancient Tusker 405 and Prism 405
sick sentinel
west kayak
I saw Rezan drop once off of my first M+of Atal, Retadin got it. Haven't seen one since this morning in my cache. :)
I got a 415 fang a couple weeks ago in my cache, made me sad too.
lusty grotto
bro ive been using that shitty fang for 3 weeks
i couldn't open my inventory or i would get nauseous
AND BTW
i certainly tried to move casting it
YOU CANT AS A WARRIOR
bullfango is my witness
opal peak
shoulda been a dk
lusty grotto
as a last RIP to that shitty trinket ill make a video showing how you can't move
when i get home 😃
jovial haven
have people near you setting off fireworks as you scrap it LOL
sand egret
jovial haven
change your mind, ok.. scenario: you begin channeling your fang as the tentacle slam from last boss in shrine spawns to crush you and it's a +20 key
lusty grotto
everytime i used it on reapings after avatar was down, my anus clenched on smashes
jovial haven
oh i bet, it can lead to some butthole puckering moments
steel mauve
any one got the quote saved for k values?
lusty grotto
ya
M0/M+: 8467.2 (x1.344)
BfD/Shrine LFR: 8467.2 (x1.344)
BfD/Shrine Normal: 9311.4 (x1.478)
BfD/Shrine Heroic: 10275.3 (x1.631)
BfD/Shrine Mythic: 11390.4 (x1.808)```whoops
let me format that better
stuck dagger
ilvl > all still applies to rings correct? I'm weighing a 400 haste/crit vs a 410 crit/mastery and I figure it's worth risking asking lol
lusty grotto
ya that's a good swap
stuck dagger
cool I figured thanks
lusty grotto
at best 5 ilvls you can kinda opt for sockets or haste
10s is kinda debatable
but too much stat loss
stuck dagger
right, that's a decent difference in overall number of stats
steel mauve
thanks nimchip
lusty grotto
👍
floral sphinx
2x bastion is good to have right?
steel mauve
great for dps, bis for m+, defensively there are better for raids
tropic cove
or 3x ;]
floral sphinx
yea i meant for m+ srry lol
im rocking 2x baston 1x blood and 1x impact and something else for m+
supple path
Finally got my third BoM, woo. Think there's a case for Unstable Catalyst over BfI, even if just for m+?
not sure how annoying UC is in practice
steel mauve
idk ive never tried it, dps wise it would be better than bfi for m+ imo, but i also had that agi trinket back in legion on my hunter and it was hell trying to keep track of it proccing and constantly moving around to pick up the orbs
floral sphinx
bliz doesnt love me enough to give me 3x BOM lol
steel mauve
i had 3X bom until i just got another 415 rando from residuum
heavy chasm
I'm still torn between 3 bom or 2 with the engineering helm. That gizmo is hard to give up
With your own mini lust
umbral forge
How do I do Motherlode
empty inlet
3rd and 4th boss ?
empty inlet
what affix
umbral forge
Bolstering, Reaping
floral sphinx
teeming volc
umbral forge
Fortified Bolstering and Reaping
umbral forge
end me
unborn island
Shrine with bolster is funsies
I just generally hate motherlode
trying to deathrun to last boss with pugs
valid pier
I once had a pug druid healer who, I swear to god, ran straight into the big mechs that see through stealth and got himself one-shot 5 times in a row
Just insta rezzed and ran straight back into it to die over and over again.
jovial haven
That's a quick boot
modern brook
motherload is like
the key imo
it separates good players from bad
not becuase of innate difficulty
but because the best way to do that key requires a really malleable understanding of how a dungeon needs to be done
Like it best exmplifies what M+ pushing looks like
brisk rain
is it worth enchanting weapon with siphoning if i have 2x bloodsport?
lusty grotto
No
brisk rain
and is it ever worth going with it?
modern brook
no
empty inlet
10% leech
lusty grotto
If you're obscenely lucky with rng and have high ilvl pieces with leech, maybe
upbeat fractal
Am I super gimping myself if I don't have 1 defeaning crash? Just got my third 415 piece and now none of them have that.
lusty grotto
Yes
You are
You are also insanely unlucky, because the amount of armor that has DC in this patch is ridiculous
upbeat fractal
Damnit. Alright. I guess I'll stick with the 400 piece.
Hah right? Was thinking the same thing.
tropic cove
i have trouble finding pieces that DONT have it
upbeat fractal
I didn't play Ogres much but when I did I had to go that face
lusty grotto
Hehe, I played wood elf, rip
upbeat fractal
Lmao can't describe how many times I died to an afk Ogre in solb/lguk zone lines
upbeat fractal
Yeah I played Halfling almost my entire time in EQ
lusty grotto
Are we druid bros
upbeat fractal
Haha druid was my alt. I was a Cleric for like 10 years :p
lusty grotto
Oh nice
last gust
Op Crown vs Engineering Helm (same ilvl)?
lusty grotto
Engi helm
But keep crown for the gems of course
That feel when you get the Stat gem hnnnngf
dense flame
Do you guys like the shroud to center idea for ML st the start or do you still kill the initial packs?
I just don’t like the refresher packs.
umbral forge
@lusty grotto save me
dense flame
Seems like the best way to do it to me.
lusty grotto
What up jettom
ocean acorn
you think sea -brawlers great helm or engi helm still
umbral forge
I need a motherlode path and I trust you
lusty grotto
Bro I pull everything in the start
lusty grotto
Shrouding is a waste
That's easy trash
Hold up I'll link my route, do you need it asap?
umbral forge
ya
lusty grotto
Hmm
umbral forge
It's my first 15
lusty grotto
Pull left and right at the start, then mid pack, then left and right on left side
Right pack on entry to 1st boss
ocean acorn
just make sure the enemeies health hits 0 before yours hits 0 and u will be fine
narrow abyss
Got 410 rezan...on my BDK. I cry.
lusty grotto
You should do 2 reaping there if you're not planning to double death skip
umbral forge
We could
narrow abyss
Nice
umbral forge
full premade, we're on voice
lusty grotto
Then go for 3 reapings there
umbral forge
have a druid
lusty grotto
Do 3 reaps before 1st boss
Just pull whatever in there for it to happen
Only do 2 reaps if you won't double death skip
For double death skip you obviously skip the entire masterminds room and the last path
Do bosses, then do trash to complete
empty inlet
you should watch jb or some streamer to get the mech %
lusty grotto
It's not hard
Just let them go in
Can't cheese it without grip or typhoon, but honestly it ain't needed
lusty grotto
Ya
narrow abyss
4% exact?
lusty grotto
Also if it's your first 15 be careful on the last two bosses... Know when to reflect cause you will see high damage from tyrannical
empty inlet
its 3.13 + the 1.04% jokcie
lusty grotto
Yeah the jockey + mech
narrow abyss
I could never read MDT right in ML. Didn’t know if u added the jockey or mech or just the mech
umbral forge
yah
narrow abyss
Teeming 🤮
lusty grotto
Yikes umm
Well be careful when doing mechs + other trash
Bolstering
Puzzle this is an easy week
Like Hella easy
umbral forge
Okay
willow fractal
i have these 3 trinkets which 3 would yall think best? ..410 rezan's gleaming eye...400 diamond laced refracting prism...410 mchimba's ritual bandages
umbral forge
starting now wish me luck
narrow abyss
I just hate having to readd new routes on Mdt
empty inlet
@umbral forge just dont wipe and you got this B)
willow fractal
bummer was hoping the bandages was useable
i can see how the diamond would be better though
sharp dew
Do the math on the absorb comparison and see how close they are
narrow abyss
Just be clean with mob mechanics don’t wipe and u got it @umbral forge
sharp dew
One will be passive and one will allow you to ignore a mechanic
lusty grotto
They aren't, because diamond cd is reduced by haste
Or icd should be the proper wording
empty inlet
tuesday = free loot day B)
willow fractal
just did the math in 1 and half min my daimond will asorb 122,412 dmg
lusty grotto
Lolll wat
narrow abyss
What
willow fractal
thats with haste
lusty grotto
Ya + rezans proc and lust
lusty grotto
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