protection

[modern brook]

u use storm bolt for stunning ??

[lusty grotto]

also to help with damage, like any fucking caster that casts on random members

[native quartz]

Tell them to roll tank and lead

[modern brook]

@vocal skiff just pull more

[lusty grotto]

in a pug, just say which route you will take

[modern brook]

alternatively: you're route sucks shit and u should evaluate it

[lusty grotto]

before you start

[native quartz]

Do whatever the fuck you want, because unless they want the key to die, you do what you do

[vocal skiff]

What if they CC stuff that it's not meant to and actualy hinder my plan lol

[modern brook]

u break the cc with big aoe button

[native quartz]

Break CC

[lusty grotto]

press thunderclap

[vocal skiff]

What if it's surrounded by a bag of bolster mobs

[modern brook]

Our kit is literally designed around breaking imprisons

[vocal skiff]

lol

[lusty grotto]

while looking at them in the eyes

to establish your dominance

[wary gyro]

Just TC harder

[modern brook]

wtf is ur plan

[native quartz]

Jerk off with one hand, TC with the other

While staring them down

[vocal skiff]

first room in the shrine

[lusty grotto]

yes fenix

[vocal skiff]

I wanted to pull small ones

[lusty grotto]

this is the best way

[vocal skiff]

then big guy

then small ones

[modern brook]

thats slow af

just pull the whole room

aoe the littles

[vocal skiff]

Hunter trapped the big one near the small

[modern brook]

and walk out

[lusty grotto]

bull nuuuu

[native quartz]

What bull said

It's quicker to zone and rezone

like ol arcway

[modern brook]

^

[vocal skiff]

I didn't know that was a thing

[daring marlin]

or have a shadow priest MC the big dick

:^)

[lusty grotto]

hey

[native quartz]

Shadow priest in a pug m+?

[modern brook]

yeah that works too

[native quartz]

That's never gonna happen

[daring marlin]

since you'll be most of the AoE anyway

[lusty grotto]

i dont want them to mc me

[daring marlin]

why not

if they're good

[modern brook]

MC is secret op during Bolstering weeks tbh

[native quartz]

I like shadow. But if you ain't meta, you ain't pugging a semi-decent key

Pugs are silly like that

I run with a spriest regularly, I have no issue with shadow. He even lifegrips me when I get a bit too retarded.

[lime mantle]

P. Sure little guys at the start don’t bolster

[daring marlin]

they do bolster

[ionic fern]

@stoic pilot did time changes clear it up for you?;)

[native quartz]

The yellow mobs don't, the guys in the very first room do

[daring marlin]

only the little skellies with the casters after second boss don't bolster

them+droplets don't bolster now

eels too

everything else bolsters

[modern brook]

@lime mantle the droplets no longer bolster

the initiates still do

[lusty grotto]

ran shrine yesterday, no rogue, do runecarver cause no skip -> fuck this shit lets just scoff it

[daring marlin]

skaggyldrink

nab

😃

[lusty grotto]

thanks captain hindsight

[daring marlin]

demitri's draught

NAB

[modern brook]

lol no rogue

[native quartz]

Ultimately though, to the dude that asked. It's irrelevant. If your group is gonna brick the key because you pulled the mob without the initiates, the group's hopeless anyway.

So just do you.

[lusty grotto]

btw, we got a pug ret

[native quartz]

The time spent ain't gonna matter unless it's a high key.

[lusty grotto]

that literally

was lagging

moon walking everywhere

[native quartz]

Was he a ragnard?

[lusty grotto]

4 man'd it up to runecarver

nah

KJ ret

[modern brook]

we dont make fun of rag in this discord

This is a Quel Thalas hate group only

[daring marlin]

KJ lul

[lusty grotto]

wait

[native quartz]

Queltards okay though? Cool

[modern brook]

yeah

[lusty grotto]

KJ is bad Guil?

[modern brook]

FUCK quelthalas

[lusty grotto]

i wasn't aware

[daring marlin]

I was on KJ at one point

[modern brook]

I've played with a few good ppl from Rag; occasionally an ok Azralon-er

[daring marlin]

that place is garbo now

It was once a booming server

ded af

[modern brook]

QT is the biggest loid farm in the world

[lusty grotto]

why was that guy fucking lagging all over

fucked an easy run

[modern brook]

fucking troglodytes i swear

[lusty grotto]

lul

[native quartz]

tbh I'm OCE so if I invite someone from rag/quel/azra, I've not only gotta deal with them being 90% chance of retarded, but also them dealing with 4000000ms or whatever the fuck it is from middle of nowhere.

[lusty grotto]

OUCH oce

my pings

[modern brook]

rip oce

[daring marlin]

yeah I avoid OCE cuz of that

[modern brook]

^ same

[daring marlin]

300 ping no thanks

[lusty grotto]

bro im sorry, because you guys seem like good players

[native quartz]

Unless y'all east coast, y'all whiners

[modern brook]

its def not OCEs fault that i hate oce

[lusty grotto]

but holy shit 200 ms

[native quartz]

We played on 200ms for 11 years no problems 😛

[lusty grotto]

im east coast yeah

[native quartz]

East coast though, rip

[daring marlin]

yuck

[vocal skiff]

lol I have played with 180 ms for ages now

[daring marlin]

Ohio so close enough to the east coast

[vocal skiff]

and that is good ping for me

[lusty grotto]

180 ms jesus christ lol

[native quartz]

Yeah until they brought in OCE servers, we all played with 200ms

[daring marlin]

180? disgusting

[native quartz]

And it really wasn't a problem

[daring marlin]

yeah well when you're used to 20-30

It's a big problem

[vocal skiff]

I am from Brazil though, although I don't roll on Azralon

[lusty grotto]

i guess its only a problem if youre not used to it

[native quartz]

Nah that's not really true either

[vocal skiff]

In vanilla, 350 ms was the norm

Imagine that

[native quartz]

I'm on 4ms right now. I can play in west coast groups and not even notice after a minute or so

[lusty grotto]

i mean i still had 56k in vanilla

so 200ms was ok

[native quartz]

Yeah I was on 56k until BWL suppression room made me DC

[lusty grotto]

i think i got DSL like a few months after

[native quartz]

That made me pony up for ADSL

500ms in BWL did not rate

[lusty grotto]

jeez

[vocal skiff]

I had 350 in vanilla in spite of having ADSL

3rd world issues right

[lusty grotto]

but now that i average 30-60 ms, playing in 200ms feels like ass

[native quartz]

Yeah if memory serves, ADSL only brought me down to 300 or so. Routing was shit back then.

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[native quartz]

In PVE I honestly can't tell the difference after a minute or so. It's fucking shite in PvP though. Too far away.. but I'm inside their body.

[vocal skiff]

Yeah, I cannot imagine what is it like playing under 100 ms

[native quartz]

I play on 4ms at home, 65ish on wifi out and about. I can't tell the difference between them functionally

It's way more pronounced in Overwatch and shit

[lusty grotto]

200ms just feels kind of worse due to the bs that is the ability queue

[native quartz]

If I play with US friends in Overwatch, I just die a little inside

You can adjust the ability queue

[lusty grotto]

yeah but i wont adjust it everytime i play with OCE people

im lazy

rather just not invite OCE 😃

[native quartz]

lol

I like to invite sargeras people

just because it amuses me when they go 'omg lag'

Don't join a Frostmourne group dumbasses.

[stoic pilot]

@ionic fern yeah.. vial is pretty nutty makes me sad my TF is basically garbo but oh well lol

[native quartz]

I got a socketed 415 vial from helping a friend out with an 8 key

Don't think I'll unequip that bad boy anytime soon

[lusty grotto]

i hate you 2

wtb rng working in my favor

[native quartz]

Just giving you more reasons to hate my oceanic self

[lusty grotto]

hate is a strong word

[native quartz]

Got a 420 rezans today too

[lusty grotto]

im just lazy and i dislike high latency 😃

[brave mauve]

That pattern has been true since Legion. If you're all +10 geared out, then go run some 8's and 9's and you'll get all the titanforges. It's just that you'll have the shame of equipping an item that says Mythic 8 on it.

[native quartz]

Shame?

[lusty grotto]

people feel shame for that? hehe

[native quartz]

High ilvl trumps my pride or lack thereof anyday

[brave mauve]

Just sayin', that's how it works.

[native quartz]

I gotta go help people with their shit keys more often then

[umbral forge]

Does anyone have a heroic leap macro

[sand egret]

yeah

mine yells LEAP

whenever I use it

[umbral forge]

can i have it

that sounds fun

[native quartz]

/cast Heroic Leap
/y LEAP

[sand egret]

add a /g in there

but yeah

[umbral forge]

thanks fenix but I want bladesong's

[native quartz]

Oh you have it in gchat too

You scumlord

[brave mauve]

/cast !heroic leap
/y YEET```

[native quartz]

yeet? :<

[sand egret]

well i only have 3 people in my guild

[lusty grotto]

/cast Heroic Leap /w Yamorino hell yah brudder

[umbral forge]

YEAH that's the STUFF

[sand egret]

so it's basically a whisper

[brave mauve]

HE'LL YEAH BORTHER

[lusty grotto]

im totally gonna do that

whisper yamor, bladesong, bull whenever i heroic leap

[sand egret]

you do that and i'm replacing my /cast with Thunder Clap instead....

and you getting ALL the updates

[lusty grotto]

👍

i can keep track of whenever you avatar

[sand egret]

"sorry missed your whisper, Bladesong just popped Avatar"

[lusty grotto]

when the whispers come fast and hard

[brave mauve]

|||#showtooltip Heroic Leap
/cast !heroic leap
/y OH YEAH THE CREAM RISES TO THE TOP MACHO MAN GOT MORE TO OFFER|||

[sand egret]

looks like he got a fat haste proc too...

[lusty grotto]

rofl

[narrow abyss]

“Hrmmmm 1min 15s between PMs. Bladesong you’re slacking”

[lusty grotto]

i like that one epyawn

[sand egret]

"pullin slow are we?"

[lusty grotto]

hahaha

[sand egret]

"you dead? just checking cuz it's been 1.5 min since your last Avatar"

It's been 1.5 minutes. Do YOU know where your Prot warrior is?

[lusty grotto]

Clippychip says "I noticed you're not bootyclapping enough"

[narrow abyss]

Hahahaha blade

[sand egret]

just saying if 2 minutes go by and I don't get an update, your ass is going on a milk carton

[narrow abyss]

“Oh it’s necrotic week”

[sand egret]

"call off the amber alert, it's necrotic"

[native quartz]

Should be planning avatar around necrotic kiting

Keep the alert going

[modern brook]

xd planning

wtf are we arcane mage

[native quartz]

yeah I couldn't keep a straight face either

[narrow abyss]

Planning

[sand egret]

lol yeah i was gonna say

if by plan you mean what i'm going to say this time to talk shit to my dps, then yes I "plan" around Avatar

[lusty grotto]

what is this "planning"

oh

whenever i plan my brain melts a little

[native quartz]

Only thing I'm planning really is budgeting for the therapist I'll need when our dps gets shit on

[lusty grotto]

and is replaced by unbridled rage

rofl

[sand egret]

yeah honestly it's messed up

[lusty grotto]

dps with ptsd 😦

help prevent ptsd, group with a bear

[sand egret]

AHEM

[lusty grotto]

LUL

[modern brook]

I found out last necrotic week that its 2% reduced healing per stack

so starting ur kite at 35 is a good way to get ur healer to hate u

[narrow abyss]

Yup

[modern brook]

🤷

[narrow abyss]

My healer hates me

[native quartz]

pfft

[lusty grotto]

what are healers

[native quartz]

35 stacks means last stand for block all the things

[sand egret]

i'll have you know I clocked in a respectable 15k overall on my bear this weekend 😃

[modern brook]

"U kno i cant help u right" - my healer implying he's needed

[native quartz]

healers will deal

[narrow abyss]

He’s fetal and rocking back and forth and says I have nothing left to give

[lusty grotto]

do you mean the low dps member

[narrow abyss]

🤷‍♂️

[native quartz]

My healer just sighs when I hit 30 stacks

That's his problem, not mine

[narrow abyss]

Do u argue with your healer about number

He says 20

I say 30

[modern brook]

I say 30

[sand egret]

33

[narrow abyss]

And we meet somewhere in middle

[modern brook]

and at 20 ur healers should be dpsing

[native quartz]

He told me to kite at 15

I laughed

[lusty grotto]

rofl

[native quartz]

And just do what I want

[sand egret]

34-37

[native quartz]

The princess can manage just fine

[sand egret]

viable range

[modern brook]

i mean

[lusty grotto]

yes blade, around 30-60

[modern brook]

Jokes aside; it heavily depends on the pull ur doing

[narrow abyss]

His way now is he drops rop when he feels like it so I have to move to it. Cause I’m not getting bailed out later 😑

[modern brook]

like freehold u can hold to ~40 stacks without caring

[sand egret]

not 60 that's way too much

58 max

[lusty grotto]

ok

youre right

[native quartz]

I tend to piss off around 45 most of the time

[wary gyro]

Honestly I tend to just go by feel for necrotic

[sand egret]

since I started doing my coworker runs, i do it by ear. When my healer just stops talking I know he just gave up and it's up to me 😃

[native quartz]

When my healer stops talking my play improves

[sand egret]

very strong correlation imho

[wary gyro]

Yeah it's a lot easier to focus without the healer yelling at you

[narrow abyss]

My healer pulls for me random shit and it tilts the living fuck out of me

[sand egret]

optimal play is the silent tank + healer combo. Cuz you know you're just in-sync

[native quartz]

Last time my healer yelled at me I told him to stop being a dickhead and do some dps

He hasn't bothered raising his voice since

[modern brook]

imagine raising ur voice to glorious prot god for anything other then thanks

[sand egret]

my healer tried that once, it resulted in me pulling another pack

[native quartz]

He's a priest, they like to raise their voices to god

[sand egret]

if you got time to talk you got time to heal

[native quartz]

If you can push to talk, you can push to heal

[sand egret]

ah, i love the love/hate relationship with tanks and healers

cuz at the end of the day we can both agree

screw the dps

[native quartz]

DPS are fucking stupid

Screw the DPS works too

[modern brook]

loiDs Per Second

[umbral forge]

just end up dating your healer. ez

[narrow abyss]

derps per second

I agree

[native quartz]

I value my DPS, they're good friends, but they're also fucking special ed cunts who need to be told how to breathe

[narrow abyss]

Topping meters my guys

[native quartz]

I married my last healer Jettom. I don't want to marry this one, he's not quite my type.

[sand egret]

"its ok Timmy. You keep hitting that mob while me and Mr. Healer here make sure you can just stand there and roll your little face without worry"

[umbral forge]

My current Healer had a mental breakdown because I told him I might leave to find a better guild cause current guild is kind of awful (Friends & Family guild)
I felt so bad.

[native quartz]

Poor guy

Fears his God abandoning him

[sand egret]

careful people like that get reincarnated as Trevor

and we don't need more Trevors in this game

[modern brook]

what the fuck is a trevor

[narrow abyss]

What’s a Trevor

[sand egret]

ahem

[modern brook]

blade ever since u learned how to pog

ur not the same person

I'm worried about u

[narrow abyss]

What’s a pog

[sand egret]

@lusty grotto care to enlighten them about the most lethal squirrel in the game?

[wary gyro]

I still need to find a new guild

[narrow abyss]

Mine is on slow bleed

Very sad

[native quartz]

I need to find a new guild for 8.2, but that's future me's problem

[narrow abyss]

Division 2 makes the pain go away for now

[wary gyro]

Mine was until a few weeks ago when it finally gave up and died

[sick sentinel]

so I was taking no damage from the blade combo

[native quartz]

My guild died when we couldn't rekill Mekkatorque in a week

[sick sentinel]

on last boss kr

[native quartz]

People just up and left

[sick sentinel]

and then I took the last one with nothing up

[native quartz]

Don't even blame them, bunch of retards

[wary gyro]

Trying to find a decent guild as a tank sucks

[sick sentinel]

100-0

[native quartz]

Yeah

RIP

[narrow abyss]

Hahaha

[native quartz]

What level KR?

[sick sentinel]

19

[narrow abyss]

No clue how bdks do that one

[wary gyro]

Most guilds who are looking for a tank are garbage tier

[sick sentinel]

we still timed it

[native quartz]

They VB

take the hit

Heal back to full

[sick sentinel]

because we had 3 CRs left lol

[narrow abyss]

Can they cover every single blade combo with a button?

[native quartz]

Fucked if I know, a mate of mine manages to not die on it so I assume they got it covered

He just told me VB > heal

[narrow abyss]

All I know is they hate that boss

[native quartz]

when I asked him

[narrow abyss]

And I never cared

[umbral forge]

I played Bdk before I went warrior tank. Stupid, boring specc.
I pooled runic power and just Death Strike it.

[native quartz]

Fuck DKs.

[umbral forge]

get 2-3 death strikes out during it, 3 during tyrannical, 2 during fortified.

[wary gyro]

I never really played bdk at all

[lusty grotto]

Oh no

[native quartz]

Seeing them whine about not being top dogs for m+ makes me so happy I wonder if my wife's slipped me some pills

[lusty grotto]

You'll summon sadbox

[sick sentinel]

also

and

[lusty grotto]

Kaege

[native quartz]

Motherlode on Bolstering/Skittish/Fortified week is just good times

[lusty grotto]

Wat do

[native quartz]

What do? It's right there. Deplecia.

Spanish for El Depleterino

[lusty grotto]

Si

[modern brook]

🏳️‍🌈

[lusty grotto]

Man I gotta change my avatar

[umbral forge]

Wait please don't

[next venture]

guyes your opinion on haste cap? for prot ? i mean hard cap soft cap if its even exist ?

[modern brook]

no

[wary gyro]

No cap

[lusty grotto]

Caps? What are those

[chilly brook]

Jesus

#268491842637660160

[native quartz]

Don't be mean to the newbie

[modern brook]

fuck newbies

[chilly brook]

It’s not being mean

[sick sentinel]

he made a joke

[lusty grotto]

He's calling him by his name, his name is Jesus

[sick sentinel]

without making fun of him

[lusty grotto]

They are buddies

Matt and Jesus

[native quartz]

Yeah but if he can't figure out there's no haste cap, he's probably not bright enough to click the pins

So go easy on the poor bugger

[modern brook]

😬

[umbral forge]

I think you just devastated him

[chilly brook]

Now who’s being “mean”?

[lusty grotto]

No!

[native quartz]

I'm not being mean, I'm being Aussie

[next venture]

i mean if its worth sacrifice few % of crit mastery for a tiny bit haste ?

[native quartz]

Don't be racist

[chilly brook]

Lul

Another question that’s answered in the guide lmao

[umbral forge]

you want to sacrifice enough crit/mastery to get % points for some haste rating?

[lusty grotto]

My read the pins crusade will not end!

[wary gyro]

More stats>specific stats

[chilly brook]

More stats>specific stats

[lusty grotto]

More claps >specific claps

[native quartz]

Be me, 5 420 items and none have haste

feelsbad

but ilvl king

[umbral forge]

ilvl king

[chilly brook]

@native quartz that was me with 385 gear last tier

[native quartz]

bring back reforging

[next venture]

i mean stacking haste on every piece of items if its posible not about ilvl cuz at some point you turn into DR

[modern brook]

@next venture

[chilly brook]

You can’t possibly DR haste

[sick sentinel]

haste DR starts on 100% haste

doubt your will reach that with gear and loads of procs

[wary gyro]

You dont run into any meaningful dr with currently obtainable gear

[chilly brook]

Unless you have access to some crazy haste levels that none of us have

[native quartz]

We'll never DR haste, period

There's no gear forseeable that'll allow it

[chilly brook]

You literally need >100% haste to DR

[next venture]

so basicly currently iam on 22% of haste without talent etc so i want still colect as much haste as possible

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[modern brook]

holys hit what

[strong forum]

I only reach over 100% haste during bloodlust

[native quartz]

Ilvl is king, if equal ilvl haste where possible

[chilly brook]

Haste=valuable until shield block has no CD

[native quartz]

Can't put it any more simply

[strong forum]

With procs im getting to 85%

[narrow abyss]

Highest ilvl. If ilvl equal stack haste

That’s it

[sick sentinel]

Oh man @sharp marten , imagine no CD SB

[wary gyro]

More stats>specific stats

[lusty grotto]

You want to collect ilvl @next venture

[sick sentinel]

How high could u get SB to last with no CD SB

[modern brook]

Uhhh

@sick sentinel what

[chilly brook]

You should really try reading the guide tbh

[sick sentinel]

Dont worry @modern brook

It's a dream scenario

[modern brook]

0 cd SB == 100% sb uptime

[next venture]

@lusty grotto yeah me best ilvl gear iam currently wearing and its 411 and i have 22% haste but i think i lact on other stats cuz crit is 15% mastery 21% and vers 9% iam just wondering if iam not lacking other stats

[strong forum]

And you technically have that already

[sick sentinel]

It's not up time but how long it lasts

[lusty grotto]

No you're not lacking other stats

Go read the guide

[chilly brook]

It doesn’t matter what your other stats are tbh

[strong forum]

If you play correctly you have like 90%+ uptime on block

[sick sentinel]

Since it's assumed u won't have 100% haste forever

[chilly brook]

For real go read the guide

[wary gyro]

If you have your highest ilvl gear on you are never lacking stats

[modern brook]

^

[sand egret]

i'm lacking in ilvl stat 😦

[lusty grotto]

What ieatpuppies said

[oblique garnet]

Woo timed 20 shrine

so many fuckups

[wary gyro]

Noce

[narrow abyss]

Gz

[oblique garnet]

and still timed

[lusty grotto]

Shrine so ez now

[oblique garnet]

the evading eels almost threw the key

[modern brook]

gratz

[strong forum]

I'm sitting on 22% crit and 24% haste or smth, 20% mastery and 3% versa, there's nothing to miss @next venture

[wary gyro]

I still need to actually do a key tonight

[sick sentinel]

I'm sitting at 85% haste, 50%vers and 75% crit

Can I compete in MDI now?

[native quartz]

IntenseNerdRage currently targeting a level 1 critter

[sick sentinel]

Lol

[sand egret]

if it was trevor those would display as 0%

just sayin

[lusty grotto]

I'm at 225% haste 738% crit 376% versa and 1284% mastery

But only 412 ilvl

[opal peak]

I threw a 19 shrine yesterday 😦 felt bad

[strong forum]

Gotta get those numbers up nimchip

[wary gyro]

All that wasted crit

[lusty grotto]

Yes :(

[native quartz]

He crits so hard the mobs find Jesus

[modern brook]

ur stacking all the things that actually have theoretical caps

xd

[lusty grotto]

How'd you throw it cuddles

[sand egret]

I disagree, once you get above 254% crit really starts to shine

[opal peak]

Ummm the biggest heck up was the room b4 the Runecarver

[strong forum]

Breakpoints are a thing ykno

[opal peak]

We pulled the room plus the pack in the next room (opposite of Runecarver) together and didn’t go well

[lusty grotto]

Hmm

You pulled runecarver with 2 packs?

[opal peak]

No

[lusty grotto]

Was it an accident?

[sand egret]

oo on purpose

power move. I like it

[opal peak]

We pulled the the first room pack and the pack in the room with the Runecarver

But not the Runecarver pack

Only 2 packs

[lusty grotto]

Hmm

[opal peak]

But it beat us up

[lusty grotto]

You mean the pack at the carver door

So basically the 2 big dudes, the little guys that patrol and the 3 pack

[sand egret]

do those little guys bolster now?

[opal peak]

No the pack u normally skip in the same room as the Runecarver

[lusty grotto]

They do blade

[sand egret]

i noticed the rats don't in FH

and i looked like an idiot trying to prevent the bolster

[lusty grotto]

Yeah well the little dudes make pulling to 2nd boss a pain

Gotta cc the patrol and pull all little dudes

[opal peak]

just have a rogue/dh EZ

[sick sentinel]

Just kys

Its easier

[lusty grotto]

And hope to god that they you don't get an accidental deity formed with all the stacks

[strong forum]

Just skip shrine

Tbh

[opal peak]

shrine aint even that bad

tho

[strong forum]

Not anymore

But cba anyway

[sick sentinel]

Listen if I can't mongo trash in shrine

It's bad

[strong forum]

This

Legion dungeons when

[sick sentinel]

Lol

We keep asking for that they gonna have us Cath/temple

[opal peak]

those 2 packs @lusty grotto

[sick sentinel]

Wait why the one in the back?

[lusty grotto]

Why would you pull that pack anwyay

[sick sentinel]

U could make up for it past the bridge

[lusty grotto]

Yeah

[opal peak]

umm

[lusty grotto]

Or just pull left stairs at the beginning

[opal peak]

we did

sec ill just link the route we used

[lusty grotto]

That's weird though

I mean it depends on what else you skip

Besides bridge / rune / wind

[sick sentinel]

Never skip rune/wind

Just tough it out

[opal peak]

https://wago.io/8fsSPJzYt

we skipped the bridge tho and just killed all the eels

[lusty grotto]

You're wasting time if you don't skip them inr

[opal peak]

we skip 4th reap

so we skipped the shit after the 2nd boss

[lusty grotto]

Not that it matters cause you know... Nerfed timer but still

[opal peak]

so u pull more earlier

[mint adder]

Do you mean to pull runecarver?

[opal peak]

so u dispell the skelly dudes and kill them to get reaping then death run to skip reaping

no @mint adder

[sick sentinel]

Yeah I'm fucking around about the skipping

[lusty grotto]

Oh this is the weekly route

[sick sentinel]

I feel like u can just skip either Carver or wind and not both now with the nerfed time tho

[outer dew]

Man nim

I actually have to die for skips now

[lusty grotto]

You can skip both ez

[opal peak]

ya

we just used invis pots to not risk

since we never did jump skip

[sick sentinel]

"ez" he says

[lusty grotto]

But yeah not needed to skip both

Why tofu

[mint adder]

You just have to make sure you hug the right when grabbing the pack down there. Big pull

[lusty grotto]

Did you race change

[outer dew]

Yeap

[sick sentinel]

Oh shit

[outer dew]

Woes is life

[sick sentinel]

If u ain't a part of the fat clan get outta here

[mint adder]

I grabbed the runecarver once and we wiped like you said. Just takes practice

[opal peak]

but it's pretty nice just skipping the last 2 reaps - we just were a little sloppy - we also finished the second boss with 2 dead - including healer

for awhile

[sick sentinel]

Doesnt rune/wind see through stealth?

[opal peak]

no

[mint adder]

No

[opal peak]

not until u pull them

[modern brook]

rune does if its pulled

idk about wind

[lusty grotto]

Yup

Same

[sick sentinel]

So if I shake my ass near him he won't see?

Hmmmmmm

[opal peak]

if they gain aggro - they then gain ability to see stealth

[mint adder]

Ye

[sick sentinel]

Then why the fuck does it say he can see stealth

[mint adder]

Because he can sometimes

[lusty grotto]

Man Ive yet to change our shrine route due to affixes

Works well every week

[sick sentinel]

Hmm I need to test this

Cause I cant test with pugs

Since I know someone is gonna mongo(me)

[mint adder]

Our shrine route which i imagine is the one that cuddles shared, has been super clean and consistent

[modern brook]

shrine paths arent super hard

[opal peak]

what kinda route u do that u never change it

[modern brook]

u have so much room to fuck with post 3rd boss

[lusty grotto]

I mean I have 0 reason to death skip or pull runecarver room

[opal peak]

like most is fine but i feel like some pulls are just dumb to not swap

[mint adder]

Saves time

Especially on bolstering weeks

[lusty grotto]

Pretty standard we skip wind, runecarver room, bridge

That's it

[sick sentinel]

At least tommorow is push week

[modern brook]

sanguine necro tyr right?

[sick sentinel]

Omegavolaniclol

[lucid bough]

mine just pull all room and the adds outside

[sick sentinel]

Teem/volc

[lucid bough]

and we stay on the rune

[modern brook]

OH SICK

[lucid bough]

ez pz

[modern brook]

i thought it was sang week

i was so mad

[opal peak]

lol

[sick sentinel]

Nah bitch, it's pushing time

[opal peak]

just a lot of mobs

[modern brook]

hell yah

[opal peak]

that's it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sick sentinel]

Oh no

A lot of mobs

I hope we don't have EVERYTHING to deal with it

[lusty grotto]

Just gotta be smart with dps

[wary gyro]

Oh shit next weeks going to be fun

[lusty grotto]

And cc

[sick sentinel]

Just bring 3 range

Cause fuck 2nd boss with melee

[lusty grotto]

I get kinda angry at people that completely stop dpsinf

[sick sentinel]

NOT EVEN A ONCE

[lusty grotto]

Listen man

All you gotta make sure of is they have low hp when you press your aoe nuke

Mobs at 10% hp? Kill them all

My dh was freaking out yesterday

[opal peak]

lol

[lusty grotto]

I told him bro I ain't gonna stop clapping

[umbral forge]

Just lie and say TC is our only source of rage so if we don't clap we die cause no mitigation

[opal peak]

I normally run on my brew bc they dont like me on my war xd and the like 1 run i did on my war was so diff bc they had a lot more to worry about with not killing lower mobs when higher hp were still alive

nah this week just say if u dont clap u lose aggro and dps will die

[lusty grotto]

No need to worry

What you have to avoid is a 100% hp mob gaining 3 stacks or more

If they are below 40% kill everything with fire

[opal peak]

the healer in 1 of the groups i run with doesn't like warrior tanks so doesn't let me on mine too often lol

[sick sentinel]

Just mongo phone like ur in mdi

[opal peak]

i think he's had bad experiences

[lusty grotto]

What

What a retard

[sick sentinel]

He's classist

[lusty grotto]

That's some high standards lol

[opal peak]

tbf he's run with my war a few times and im not as good at living as i am on my war

[lusty grotto]

Hmm

[opal peak]

he also thinks he needs to heal me less on my brew - bc i just pool orbs

which is prob tru but i again i aint as good defensively on my war bc still getting used to rotating something other than isb

[lusty grotto]

Yeah he should be healing your war less

I mean treat SB like isb

[opal peak]

ya i do - but it's a lot easier for me to always have isb charges than it is having SB/LS available

that's when it gets sketch

[lusty grotto]

Yeah well you have that ability that gives you charges

Iirc

[opal peak]

nah u use lightbrew - so u have 4 charges instead of 3 and slightly faster recharge

i dont use the 1 that is an auto-refill

[lusty grotto]

I see

I haven't played my monk a lot

Just for mount runs on holidays

[wary gyro]

It's super easy to get 100% uptime on isb

[lusty grotto]

Don't think I've changed talents from when I did mage tower lol

[opal peak]

ya only time it's "hard" is if ur getting trucked so hard u need to keep purifying but at that point u kite and regain charges

[lusty grotto]

Let's see monkchips talents

[daring marlin]

Kiting as a tank outside necrotic 🤢

[opal peak]

but im getting better at rotating LS and getting it off CD but if i dont have either i go poof and he's just like "SEEEEEE what I mean"

[daring marlin]

😛

[lusty grotto]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/arthas/monkchip

Yeah you should just tell him you need more practice

[opal peak]

111 Pog

ya i do - he tells me to run on my war in the other m+ group i run with lol

[lusty grotto]

OK that guy is a dick

[opal peak]

since we run 18-20 trying to push 21's and doesnt wanna bring my war into that

[lusty grotto]

Lmao

[wary gyro]

.... he'd rather. have a monk than a war for 21s?

[opal peak]

which idk how comfortable i am doing that anyway but ya

when i main monk and know what im doing on it

ya

have about 5.5 ilvls on him

[lusty grotto]

You should push 20s with the other group and leave him in the dust

[opal peak]

that group is the "better" 1 monkaS

[lusty grotto]

Hmm I bet you could still do it

[opal peak]

and has a relatively consistent core people - the other is a little more sketch in who we have

[lusty grotto]

Better is subjective

Well at least play your war more :p

Do more keys with the other group to practice

Even if you don't push 20s

[sick sentinel]

you ever have those runs

where literally everything goes wrong>?

[lusty grotto]

What can the main group do if you flat out decide to play your war instead?

[sick sentinel]

there was a mistake in like every single pull of every pack'

[lusty grotto]

Do they replace you or what?

[opal peak]

kinda

so they used to not take me

[lusty grotto]

Yeah I've had that ask bull kaege

[opal peak]

and run with another brew

mainly bc 1 dude didnt like running with me bc of runs awhile ago that went a little rough lol but they more recently started taking me again

[lusty grotto]

That group seems not right for you from the get go

Unreasonably elitist

Trust me when i say this: they will dump you when they get the chance

So make sure you make moves to start moving into another stable group

You probably don't want that to happen but it seems that it's only a matter of time

And I say that because I've been on both the receiving end and in the position of the people you describe

[opal peak]

well they started pushing keys much earlier so the fact that i hadn't pushed played a part initially as well - they're all guildies - i'm also plenty sure they'll take both me and the other tank depending on who's on but my schedule is too wonky to find a real reliable group bc my time varies - it isnt an optimal situation but

[lusty grotto]

Consider finding people outside of your guild to run with

[opal peak]

and it was really 1 guy that had an issue with me - but they kinda do a whole if 1 person isn't comfortable then they dont do it kinda thing - i dont fully blame him for that whole thing (i'm a healer main so the whole me tanking thing was a big meme until i was finally able to get a group to start pushing)

[lusty grotto]

I can't overcome the fact that they way you describe it seems extremely similar to clique shenanigans

[sand kettle]

Question: How does spell reflect resolve if 2 casts go off on you at the exact same time?

[opal peak]

ehhhh u aint totally wrong there lol

[lusty grotto]

You reflect both if they are at the same time

[opal peak]

it's just the most convenient group

[sand kettle]

Cool, thanks

[lusty grotto]

If they are split within some time, well obviously the first one is the one that gets reflected

For example the masterminds in ml before 3rd boss occasionally do their thing at the same time

You reflect both easily if so

[sick sentinel]

The first cast of the Beam is always at the same time for those 2 adds, afterwords they learn their lesson

[lusty grotto]

Yup

[sand kettle]

I just noticed the audio cue for a reflect was different when that happened, but I hadn't done any science on it so I wanted to check

[opal peak]

wait y talk about mastermind if u never pull them 🤔

[lusty grotto]

haha

i was gonna add that but

[nova gale]

Time for ToS 24 monkaS

[lusty grotto]

its a good example nonetheless

[sand kettle]

The water lizards in a TD made me think of it

[opal peak]

@nova gale sounds EZ

😃

[austere gulch]

overwhelming power is shit for tanks yes?

[sand kettle]

I think theres an ICD on it so it's actually decent

[opal peak]

been hoping for a 20/21 temple for awhile

[wary gyro]

OP has an icd of 1s and is still very good for tanks

[austere gulch]

better than elemental whirl?

[wary gyro]

Absolutely

[austere gulch]

nice thanks

[brisk ferry]

wow I am bad, u can SR the Masterminds? amazing

[sand kettle]

Would you guys take Unstable Flames or Crystalline Carapace?

[brisk ferry]

UF

[wary gyro]

Flames

[sand kettle]

How does Earthlink rank?

[nova gale]

@opal peak ez insta deplete

[opal peak]

wha

just dont die and kill the things

[sand kettle]

I think that's a loading screen tip, even

[chrome orchid]

how do you guys feel about lingering sporepods? currently running vial of animated blood (395) and refracting prism(370)

[west kayak]

Lingering is frowned upon.

[wary gyro]

Sporepods is pretty bad

What ilvl is it

[chrome orchid]

even for m+? 400 ilvl

[inland mesa]

Leelou would never use spore

[wary gyro]

It's not good anywhere but I might run it over the 370 just off the str increase

[lusty grotto]

I don't know

Diamond is diamond

[chrome orchid]

leelou does what i tell her, and refracting does too much shielding to take off lol

id be replacing vial

[lusty grotto]

I'm not sure I would use it over it

Oh fuck no

[wary gyro]

Absolutely not for vial

[lusty grotto]

Vial over it

[chrome orchid]

ok cheers

[wary gyro]

Vial is way better

[chrome orchid]

what trinket should i be chasing intead?

[wary gyro]

Vial is one of the best trinkets for prot

[opal peak]

one of my first trinkets on my warr was a 420 vial 😌

[wary gyro]

Lucky

[opal peak]

no socket and not 425 tho so i deleted

[wary gyro]

Only trinket I ever get from UR is sporepods

[chrome orchid]

ok cool so ill just look to get a better prism i guess

[brisk ferry]

you should be looking at Core Crusted Butcher's Block or Rezan's if you're trying to get trinkets from M+

[chrome orchid]

ok thanks man

[runic plume]

is prot good for island expeditions?

[wary gyro]

Yes

[brisk ferry]

new meta, Island+'s

[lime mantle]

“Is aoe unga bunga big dps good at unga bunga big aoe dps content”?

[clear quarry]

I run 410 Oppulance trink and 410 howler.

[lime mantle]

HDV And VDH are also good at them

[modern brook]

i thought u said u were retarded danie

thats the smartest thing anyone has said in this discord today

[winter aspen]

I kinda like temple this week

[clear quarry]

UR and Temple seem to be free keys this week.

[winter aspen]

Sadly pugs have a habbit of fucking up last boss

[brisk ferry]

I dunno who it was that mentioned in Temple go right at the beginning, and now I dunno why I ever went left

[clear quarry]

Wot in tarnation

[vocal skiff]

is going right at the temple even a thing

[raven mango]

Doing my first Atal 15 tonight, folks skipping Vokal trash pack or just lust/power through it? Any advice?

[oblique garnet]

going right fucks up the count

[winter aspen]

I kill both sides anyways

[vocal skiff]

Skip

[oblique garnet]

going left is harder but makes the route so much better

with skip

[winter aspen]

Skip

[brisk ferry]

I didn't find right to be too bad, and we skipped the last stairs to the final boss

[dusty tusk]

I havent seen left trash since first few weeks of bfa

Who would put themselves through colossus

[sick sentinel]

the problem with pugs

is that probably they have breathing problems

at least they are cute

[lusty grotto]

are you drunk when you pug

[brisk ferry]

almost exclusively

[lusty grotto]

ok that explains the cute thing

[sick sentinel]

oh you don't mean the dog breed?

[modern brook]

ima big skipper tbh

[lusty grotto]

yo let me do the cutest thing, and accidentally pull when mobs are dying

[jovial haven]

how off does it make the count by going right?

[lusty grotto]

mashes ALT + F4

[winter aspen]

Twice now a healer dispelled the dps debuff

[lusty grotto]

i mean

[winter aspen]

And dps failed interrupts

[lusty grotto]

its not tyrannical

are they retarded

[winter aspen]

After no problem runs borh time, with like 6 mins for the boss

I swear some healers just play on autopilot no brain

[lusty grotto]

well

look

[brisk ferry]

def agree with that

[lusty grotto]

some healers do dispel when they see they will get nuked

and that's good

because otherwise they would get fucked in the ass

[sick sentinel]

Those healers know what they are supposed to do

[modern brook]

Quick side bar

[sick sentinel]

No

[modern brook]

My guildie just rolled a warrior

Named it

SlammyDevito

plz continue

[lusty grotto]

that's a...

[winged elm]

Is it worth sacrificing item level for a leech build?

[sick sentinel]

LOL

[lusty grotto]

great name

[sick sentinel]

Unless it's serving fruits fuck that

@winged elm no

[lusty grotto]

holy fuck why didn't i think of that

[winged elm]

Is leech build a trap

lol

[sick sentinel]

Ok nvm that was a good sidebar

[lusty grotto]

why must i always stick with Nim and Chip

[modern brook]

@winged elm yes

ur not a dk

[sick sentinel]

Yes @winged elm

[lusty grotto]

how the fuck are you even gonna make a leech set

[winged elm]

but I got like 11% leech 😦

[winter aspen]

Leech lol

[lusty grotto]

RNG is RNG

[sand kettle]

What would you go for with tertiary stats? Like what's the best of them?

[sick sentinel]

Jesus fuck how the fuck do u have 11%

[sand kettle]

IF you had a choice

[modern brook]

leech

[sick sentinel]

Avoidance

[modern brook]

by a mile

[warm plinth]

Avoidance

[lusty grotto]

you don't go for tertiary stats

[winter aspen]

All the tertiarys

[modern brook]

actually

SPEED

gonk gang bitches

[sick sentinel]

Ok bull

[wary gyro]

Gotta go fast

[modern brook]

Eat my shorts, nerds

[winged elm]

2 blood sports, 3 blood siphons, leech weapon enchant, and some leech on gear

[modern brook]

nyooom

[sick sentinel]

LEECH WEAPON ENCHANT

[lusty grotto]

some leech on gear

bro

what

[modern brook]

eggsd

[sick sentinel]

BOI I SWEAR TO FUCK

[honest frigate]

My shield has speed

[winter aspen]

Thats a yikes from me

[warm plinth]

smacks Juggs's hand Bad Juggs

[modern brook]

@honest frigate nice 👌

[lusty grotto]

this is a good troll

i applaud it

👏

[sick sentinel]

[honest frigate]

It’s only 400 though pepehands

[winged elm]

😠

[modern brook]

speeds probably worth 25 ilvls anyways, tbh

[sick sentinel]

Die

[lusty grotto]

i miss me leggo boots

[modern brook]

^ my point

[sick sentinel]

I don't

[honest frigate]

Trueee

[modern brook]

it was literally a legendary

[sick sentinel]

The fuck u need speed for

[modern brook]

to go faster?

wtf

[honest frigate]

Listen

In my 20 ad

Only reason we timed

[lusty grotto]

did pop that nox

[winged elm]

is cause you had leech

[honest frigate]

Is bc our boomy lightfoot barked to trigger yazma RP earlier

[lusty grotto]

nax

[winged elm]

right

[modern brook]

G O N K G A N G

[honest frigate]

Sooooooo

[lusty grotto]

NoS

[honest frigate]

Gotta go fast

[sick sentinel]

Listen here, if my ass cheeks are so loud from the clapping speed ain't gonna stop the adds

[lusty grotto]

ok yeah i got it right its NOS

but INR

if you can go fast and clap

[modern brook]

u acn walk and clap

its 2019

[lusty grotto]

carpet bombing claps

[modern brook]

if ur standard run isnt in sprint animation why are you playing

[sick sentinel]

The problem is I'm trying to not alert the guards

[warm plinth]

Skyhold is scaring me this morning. I think I need an adult.

[sick sentinel]

If my claps get louder, how can I sneak around

Especially if I'm running at the speed of real life sonic

[lusty grotto]

bro, if you got speed the guards cant catch oyu

[oblique garnet]

You hate to see it

[lusty grotto]

its ok late

i got a 425

[winter aspen]

Cursed image

[lusty grotto]

sorry

415

[honest frigate]

Listen just fang outside after clap is on cd post avatar

[winter aspen]

Seeing it will place one in your weekly chest

[sick sentinel]

Rip @oblique garnet

[oblique garnet]

but wait

theres more

[lusty grotto]

😦

but wheres your leech late

[oblique garnet]

fuck leech

[honest frigate]

So you’re gonk gang then?

[warm plinth]

[winter aspen]

Would you equip Merektha if it had leech ?

[lusty grotto]

OH JESUS

[oblique garnet]

no

[lusty grotto]

im sorry Late

im so sorry

[warm plinth]

And to think you waited all week for that

[lusty grotto]

i think i shed a tear just now

[oblique garnet]

the only way i would use merekthas would be the fact that im freshly dinged character and merekhtas was 425

[warm plinth]

Not even 420, but 425

Like 420 it's going in the scrapper

[oblique garnet]

ghash

thats not from weekly cache

[honest frigate]

Freshly dinged on warr?

[lusty grotto]

jesus christ lol

[winter aspen]

Wtf is a lingering sporepod

[warm plinth]

Oh, I guess I just saw Mythic 10 Titanforged and assumed 😂 I guess that would've been Warforged though

[lusty grotto]

only reason im using fang is cause my other trinkets were 370

i cry

but at least i dont have shitpods 😃

[warm plinth]

So you just what, charge in, whip it out and trickle some poison on the mobs, then pop Avatar and try to redeem yourself? 😂

[lusty grotto]

hmm no

i stun first

because you cant block while channeling fang

[oblique garnet]

useless trinkets all of em

[lusty grotto]

😉

what the fuck

[honest frigate]

You can kite though

[warm plinth]

Wow, because it wasn't bad enough by default right?

[lusty grotto]

you can't move while channeling fang

what the fuck

[honest frigate]

Yes you can

[lusty grotto]

umm no

[honest frigate]

100% can

I do it on my DK all the time

[lusty grotto]

trust me ive gotten hit by fucking smashes casting it

[warm plinth]

You can definitely move while casting it

[lusty grotto]

....

[warm plinth]

I just had my girlfriend test hers

[lusty grotto]

you're fucking with me

[honest frigate]

Lmao no

You can move with it

[warm plinth]

Nope. I literally just watched a gnome DK move while spitting poison

[lusty grotto]

ive tried moving with it

[oblique garnet]

you can move

[honest frigate]

If you had to stand and channel it, it would be even worse

[oblique garnet]

but you move extremely slowly

[lusty grotto]

well what the fuck

must be my macro then

[warm plinth]

Yeah you can't move full speed; it's probably like 70% normal speed or something

[honest frigate]

It’s the only reason I do damage on my DK. Just have fang up for reaping waves

[oblique garnet]

its 10%

of yóur normal speed

[lusty grotto]

ok so you cant move

[warm plinth]

Is it that slow? Didn't look like it but it was only a 2 second cast or something

[lusty grotto]

is what you're saying

unless youre gonkgang

[stoic pilot]

Wait is it 10% of your normal move speed

[lusty grotto]

1% speed, got it

[stoic pilot]

I wonder if dk deaths advance passive neutralizes it

[lusty grotto]

yup i knew it

[oblique garnet]

youre basically a snail when you channel it

[stoic pilot]

Cuz I hauled ass using it on my dk

[oblique garnet]

probably does

[lusty grotto]

i swear to fucking god i cant move when i cast it

[sick sentinel]

It's always some shit dks

[warm plinth]

I just checked her movement speed when she cast it; it's 70% movement speed

[lusty grotto]

and believe me ive tried

[warm plinth]

Oh wait

It's because she's a DK 😂

She can't be slowed past 70%

[stoic pilot]

Wow deaths advance confirmed op

[lusty grotto]

REEEEEE

[honest frigate]

Yes it does

[oblique garnet]

its literal dogshit on warrior

[honest frigate]

Deaths advance is such a strong ability

[lusty grotto]

you fucking BDKs

[warm plinth]

I forgot about that for a minute, sorry. 😂

[lusty grotto]

shakes fist

[sick sentinel]

In a surprise(not really) turn of events

Bdks are bullshit

[honest frigate]

Merekthas fang is really good for DK’s in m+ this season since it allows them to do actually decent dps on a big pack during it

[stoic pilot]

We just need a measly 374 percent buff on merekthas fang again

[oblique garnet]

no

[lusty grotto]

lol

[oblique garnet]

we just need

not use it

[modern brook]

"I cant believe BDK's can use a bad trinket that I cant"

[oblique garnet]

you lose more damage in 2 seconds channeling it than you can do with 1 thunderclap

[lusty grotto]

yes