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warm plinth
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around a person*

lusty grotto
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yes

oblique garnet
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nah

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you need a boomkin

halcyon fable
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I know ursols works against that and the skeleton mini boss pack in KR

lusty grotto
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ring has them bounce back

warm plinth
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Yeah, so that makes sense then

chrome falcon
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You cannot cheese healthstones in time trials

warm plinth
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Same concept from different directions

halcyon fable
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Just beware of being in the vortex or you'll get telefragged instantly

daring marlin
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oh mdi

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kek

warm plinth
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lul

oblique garnet
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Probably boomkin dh rdruid prot warr and dk

daring marlin
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I missed half the convo

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kill me brah

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no meme I'm a manki

chrome falcon
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how about i introduce you to a single raging saurid

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and he kills you instead

oblique garnet
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honestly

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i think i might not play warrior

daring marlin
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That would be amazing

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inb4 he plays pally

warm plinth
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😮

lusty grotto
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you guys pulling a sense

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👊

oblique garnet
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i have a pick prepared

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but

daring marlin
lusty grotto
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you need to commit

oblique garnet
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its gonna sound stupid

daring marlin
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bear boi

oblique garnet
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yes

daring marlin
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lipkiss mode

oblique garnet
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3 druids

warm plinth
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Just do 5, fuck it. 3 balance druids for 3x trees. Guardian and resto have vortex, 5 typhoons. Guardian won't even have to tank 😏

chrome falcon
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I'll admit I really enjoyed having endless hunger and 2 vampiric speeds

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On explosive

oblique garnet
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like im trying to think of an comp that can avoid most of the ongoing damage from raging fort

chrome falcon
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I was outhealing my healer most pulls

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i probably shouldn't have been doing any explosives though huh

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just have the dps do that while i thunderclap

oblique garnet
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You should be able to do both

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Like atal has the saurids

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And then the fucking honor guards

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And the caster mobs

lusty grotto
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augurs?

warm plinth
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Can you bait saurids?

oblique garnet
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You cant stack because they cleave

warm plinth
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I was thinking more have one person at range while everyone else stacks; or can they leap in place?

oblique garnet
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Juggernauts go in with merciless strike and one shot someone

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They leap randomly

warm plinth
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Ah

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I feel like you need a boomkin for that dungeon specifically 🤔 Beam and typhoon seems like they'd be invaluable for the caster packs

oblique garnet
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Yeah atleast one boomkin is a must

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But you also need 2 melee interrupts

warm plinth
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What's the other affix btw? With raging/fort?

oblique garnet
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Raging fort explo reaping

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!

warm plinth
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What about just having two rogues?

oblique garnet
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Survival hunter

warm plinth
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Why survival?

oblique garnet
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Its the best explosive killing machine

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Allows you to pull big

warm plinth
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What makes them the best?

oblique garnet
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The poison thingy

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It chains

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From explosives

halcyon fable
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My group is doing with prot warrior/holy pally (glimmer)/DH/combat rogue/boomy

warm plinth
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Oh, the bomb?

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Or do you mean serpent sting with the talent?

oblique garnet
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Yes the bomb

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Or that not sure which it is

warm plinth
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They have a talent (I think it's a talent) that makes it so serpent sting hits two additional targets

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"combat rogue" lol

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RIP combat

chrome falcon
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F

lusty grotto
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remember

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when SnD was a thing

warm plinth
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It still is; it's just a talent you don't use lul

chrome falcon
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never forget "sorry i pressed killing spree and it killed me"

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every pull

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for like 6 expansions

warm plinth
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lol

oblique garnet
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I really dislike the glimmer build in m+

warm plinth
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Prot pally, balance druid, rogue+DH, or double rogue, and resto druid. 2 soothes, interrupts out the ass, and self-sustainable DPS and tons of utility

lusty grotto
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hiss

oblique garnet
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Yh prot pally will probably be best

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For atal

warm plinth
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Sorry, I had to gulp a few times to say prot pally 😦

oblique garnet
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Sorry team

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I am betrayer

warm plinth
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Rogues can feint for saurids I would think if their leap is cleave

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Or just riposte

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But that's a risk since it's 2 min CD

oblique garnet
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Palatanks can offheal alot

warm plinth
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Yeah

oblique garnet
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Which will help

warm plinth
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Honor guards just hit really fucking hard right? Or do they have something else that I'm not remembering?

oblique garnet
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Green goo

warm plinth
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Oh, right

oblique garnet
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Unavoidable green goo

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Can nightelfs be dks?

warm plinth
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yeah

sick sentinel
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yeah

oblique garnet
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🤔🤔

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That changes things

sick sentinel
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every race that has been in the game since cata can be dks'

warm plinth
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Yeah, which is all the base races except Pandaren

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or non-allied I guess, whatever you want to call them

oblique garnet
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You control the honorguard never kill it and release it after youre done with the pack and shadowmeld away

warm plinth
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Doesn't priestess pack have 2?

oblique garnet
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No

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Theres augur priestess and the 4 melee mobs

warm plinth
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Yeah idk why I was thinking the melees were honor guards

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Ignore me; this spreadsheet is frying my brain

oblique garnet
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Might have to pull sense

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Betray everything i believe in

lusty grotto
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🤢

warm plinth
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I mean if you do balance + double rogue or balance, rogue DH, you can change 1 toon per dungeon right? so you could change back to prot war if it was better in another dungeon

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Or are they not doing that?

lean arch
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does anyone who actually kills bosses just let a tank die on conclave to kimbul dot?

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as like, part of the strat

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die/brez

sick sentinel
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Wtf no

undone sun
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sounds bizarre

sick sentinel
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Just like, tank swap

lean arch
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we have some lfr retards coming up with our strats

undone sun
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🤣

sick sentinel
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Go like "3 2 1 taunt",

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And swap bosses

full palm
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Three tank it if you are having issues... But letting the tank... silly

halcyon fable
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Have dark iron tank

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Take 3 cleave, purge dot, take 2 more

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Boss should be dead or close to by third the second time around

lean arch
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Obviously not an option

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just racial the bleed off 4Head

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thanks

knotty wagon
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go engineer

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and proc the bleed off

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:^)

lean arch
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it only takes 1 stack if it procs

vocal skiff
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Missed a 2 chest on FH+14 for so close

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Did FH three times in a row with a route that I made that I was very satisfied with

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Not 100% optimal with lust timer though I think

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Nonetheless, it feels good to have some progression in a coordinated group

halcyon fable
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I love seeing my group work better together and start doing paths correctly. Way more satisfying than raids for me. Just need to work on confidence that we can pull two packs at a time sometimes to speed us up.

fickle girder
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which m+ should we be spamming the most

outer dew
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thanks

knotty wagon
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Which piece of geardo you want the most

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AD or TD though

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each has a weapon, shield, and good trinket.

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and both are stupidly easy to push

naive panther
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soaking on blockades, worth completely changing talents a bit. indomitable? never surrender? or the faster last stand just worth it as I don't need the block?

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bounding stride?

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doubt never surrender is good as if im low hp im already screwed

warm plinth
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Bounding stride is good. Rest should stay the same.

swift pier
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anyone know the WA that does the instant marks in m+? ive been trying to push high keys but we struggle on interupts sometimes...

undone sun
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there aren't any situations where NS or Indom become better

naive panther
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even if all you do is soak? and don't need the bolster block?

undone sun
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You're undervaluing the CDR on last stand

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And over valuing ns/indom

willow scarab
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I just use opie and mark while moving

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Auto mark feels too easyscape

sick sentinel
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Can anyone point me to a good YouTube for prot warrior and M+ guides for each dungeons? Many thanks

willow scarab
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Sense’s YouTube

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That’s what I watched when I was 0 rating and now I’m 2100 thanks sense

sick sentinel
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@willow scarab cheers mate! Starting at 0 as well 😏

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But I’m going the pug life way....it’s hard man😭

willow scarab
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That’s the only way to start

umbral forge
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Are you EU?

willow scarab
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Glickz nerfclap lepan are all good to watch on twitch or vods too

sick sentinel
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@umbral forge US mate

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@willow scarab cheers will have a look

vestal kiln
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Any EU prot warrs in ?

umbral forge
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Sup

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@vestal kiln

rose moat
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I guess naowh is one

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Pretty much plays warr for mdi’s

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Think lepan is EU aswell

empty inlet
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🤔

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🔫

exotic spoke
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20 siege .... 46 minutes... not too bad for the first time >.>

knotty wagon
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ToS 🤔

empty inlet
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tos is poggers this week

exotic spoke
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TOS is easy mode

empty inlet
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siege is free this week as well

warm plinth
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Not bad Riki

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Where'd you guys lose time?

exotic spoke
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Yeah, just first key at a 20. We wiped on third boss because healer got hit by the wave.

warm plinth
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RIP

exotic spoke
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So lost bolster. Would have been over time but maybe only 2-3 minutes if we didn’t

warm plinth
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I imagine on a key that high, it's easy to forget/overlook the simple things sometimes in the midst of all the other dangerous shit going on.

exotic spoke
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Wiped at 15% too

warm plinth
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Damn, that's rough

exotic spoke
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Oh wells. First time I’d done siege over a 13 really rofl

warm plinth
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Oh wow

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Big difference there

exotic spoke
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We can’t get AD, siege, or shrine keys

warm plinth
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I think it'd be a neat change to at least let you pick your first key of the week

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And randomize it from there

exotic spoke
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Yeah? But would be too easy to farm shit then

umbral forge
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I wish the mission table would give you items to tinker with keys.
A consumable to reroll the dungeon, maybe a "mark of Ghuun" to make it infested instead of reaping etc.
Like not enough to farm the consumables. But some

exotic spoke
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Why would you want infested though

warm plinth
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Okay well maybe instead of letting you pick, let you reroll the first key, and make it so it can't change to the same one.

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So you're not guaranteed to be able to farm anything, but you at least have some course of action to minimize getting stuck with the same key over and over

umbral forge
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@exotic spoke noone would want infested. But in season 3 I imagine quite a few will miss Reaping

exotic spoke
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Fair, I’ll Accept that logic

honest canopy
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Friends

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I am stuck at Fury

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I am not allwoed to tank in raids.

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😦

warm plinth
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😦

exotic spoke
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What are your tanks and what difficulty?

ionic fern
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Wait for that sweet-sweet time when one of the tanks can't make it and step in and be better than him.

warm plinth
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Nice plan

honest canopy
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I am GM of the guild

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I could just tell everyone to gtfo but you know. cant be Tengil all the time.

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I have more issues sorting out the healing rn

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We use a prot warrior and a DK, will use a DK and a Prot paladin wich is a good friend of the DK and they played together for a ling time, and move the warrior into fury as well

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Need to fill the roster so we can consitent do M progression, you know, its hard beeing the only daytime guild on EU

umbral forge
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I'm a NEET with a lot of freetime. I could trial for your guild if there's something specific you need?

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@honest canopy

empty inlet
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how do you guys deal with shadow of zul this week

ionic fern
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CD's+Externals+Kiting when everything else is out.

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You should have all CD's up anyways unless something went horribly wrong on the last boss fight.

old night
warm plinth
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The two highest ones. If the 415 was like a 405, I'd swap the 400 for it. But that's too big of a difference.

old night
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think so?

warm plinth
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Yeah, offensively the 400 might be an upgrade (you could sim it), but defensively I can't imagine it being better than the 415.

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Since secondaries are so close defensively

empty inlet
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i kited but its skittish

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so i cant really run that far

ionic fern
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Jeah, it's a bit of a bad combo regarding that. If you don't have a rogue/hunter to MD either.
Just remember that while it looks that you can dump everything into IP due to the magic damage..he also melees.

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Not for too much tho but still something to keep in mind.

crisp pecan
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Hey guys, this week going to be great for pushing

ionic fern
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😬

crisp pecan
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already raised my score form 2 to 2.12

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excepto for motherlode

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its ez

ionic fern
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I'm just relaxing this week..next week is go time again.

crisp pecan
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Just in case you would like tolog in for some quick run, it wont be a cancer

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except for motherlode ofc 😄

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like sethralis is so ez

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did 19 yesterday, aiming 20 same for underrot and TD

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for these its best week

tidal scarab
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Haha my mdi healer just got banned for 7 days for exploiting the xp pot bug, rip

crisp pecan
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unlucky

proud ermine
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half of the oceanic scene

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just got banned

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we have people ranging from 2 days to one month

neon tangle
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lol xp pots

knotty wagon
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Why are they doing this so late in week

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It should be. Monday to weds ban

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Just kill an entire lockout

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Although, why is the punishment different for eberyone?

proud ermine
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The amount of potions used/characters leveled

jade holly
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Pretty sure its just based on previous suspensions

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3-7-?-30

knotty wagon
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I dont bother with exploits

proud ermine
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Not based on previous suspoensions

jade holly
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idk i didnt get banned

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We safe boys

proud ermine
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I had a clean account and got one month'd

jade holly
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o\

tidal scarab
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It's not based on previous. Friend didn't have any suspensions and got 7 days

jade holly
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friends got 3 days previous people who got banned on fl got 30

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thats all I know

knotty wagon
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Lmao

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Maybe people shouldnt use exploits

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They shouldve waited u til april 15th

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Then sent out 8-30 day bans

jade holly
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tbh

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still worth the 3 day

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lmao

proud ermine
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I mean a lot of the people who got one month'd

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Will miss first week of H Crucible

jade holly
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no they won't

knotty wagon
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Dont let then raid crucible even in mythic

tidal scarab
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I love the fucking community being like how can they suspend people for this. Legit see that shit is not working as intended, better abuse the shit out of it instead of reporting it through bug system

jade holly
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They will xfer their toons to different bnets to play

knotty wagon
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Benlike heres your 30 day suspension on april 15th

jade holly
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pretty sure you still can

knotty wagon
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See, blizzard could profit from this

jade socket
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You can’t xfer

prisma echo
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Do you think they will ban ppl abusing cauldron bug?

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i think it hit economy more then lvling

mortal brook
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do those cauldrons even exist anymore? ive seen like 2 this week

prisma echo
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They exist but now they have 6 min respawn time not 15sec like it was when bug was working 😃

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its great tool for passive income btw 😃 Yesterday I was doing my work stuff and just picking it once 6 min got bunch of flasks, pots and 2 cauldrons

autumn pendant
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What cauldrons? 🤔

prisma echo
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New alchemy item from 8.1.5 give you opportunity to interact with random cauldrons in world

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when you use it it gives random alchemy items

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it could be flask, cauldron or some shitty pot

craggy viper
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Can somebody tell me why people are using devastator on Jaina?

modest wedge
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they propably use Reckless Flurry

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Makes them do more ST damage

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as the fight is mostly ST

undone sun
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offensively, deva is competitive on ST

umbral forge
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Just did my first Shrine over 10 on time.
Thanks guys

craggy viper
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gz

umbral forge
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Almost 2 chested a 11 with a Feral Druid ninja pulling temple attendants

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feels good. that dungeon has always scared the crap outta me

craggy viper
undone sun
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deva and RF aren't mutually exclusive

glacial olive
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devastator is always better dps-wise on ST

prisma echo
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Im looking at guides on icy veins, wowhead and on logs on warcraft logs and i see that on M+ there is no big diferrence what trinket you use as prot. Top 20 on parser could have different trinkets. Do I assume that there is no "bis" trinkets for prot or maybe the difference is not so big so ilvl matter more than effect?

glacial olive
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there's a number of trinkets that are pretty good offensively, there arent any that are significantly stronger than the rest

ionic fern
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Also trinkets are harder to get than other gear slots so you are stuck with what you get.

prisma echo
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thanks mates

sick sentinel
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@prisma echo if you have one of the "good" trinkets (there are a bunch) with a socket, it's probably the best

prisma echo
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@sick sentinel yea i see that rezan, crystal from opulence and vial are in spots

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and then "which one has more ilvl"

glacial olive
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depends on if you're looking for survivability or dps 😃

neon tangle
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@sick sentinel on my BDK my 385 syringe w/ socket sims a lil higher than my 415 alch trinket

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shits so silly

stone cloud
sick sentinel
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@neon tangle "your bdk"

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This is different

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@prisma echo you can make an argument for gore block in mplus

neon tangle
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not saying its generally applicable, just funny how it worked out for me

sick sentinel
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I don't have general knowledge of other tanks, as I have been playing only my warrior in bfa

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But I have read that bdks have a small pool of good trinkets

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And that is simply not the case for us

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So don't even bring it up

neon tangle
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just for you

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a 415 alch stone sims 5 dps higher than a 385 w/ socket

undone sun
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🤣

sick sentinel
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Lol

neon tangle
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point is really, trinkets sim wildly differently, prolly best to sim

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even for warriors 😛

oblique garnet
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oh rip

sick sentinel
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I disagree

oblique garnet
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the xp pot exploit bans just rolled out

sick sentinel
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Trinkets depend on content

crisp pecan
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"rolled out" 😄

sick sentinel
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Yeah most people got a 3 day ban

oblique garnet
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we had

sick sentinel
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Some people got a warforged 7 day ban

oblique garnet
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1 month ban

sick sentinel
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And some people's ban titanforged to 30 days

silk mortar
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Thats some sick titanforging

undone sun
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true bfa experience

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😏

oblique garnet
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im just waiting on my ban to happen

undone sun
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how much did you take advantage of

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bans started going out few hours ago now

oblique garnet
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one characater

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but the amount of people i helped lvl with it

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tho

undone sun
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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haven't heard of any bans of people helping others do it

sick sentinel
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Wait if you are banned on live you can't log in on TR?

oblique garnet
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yes

sick sentinel
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Lol rip

undone sun
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also being banned fucks up your MDI eligibility

sick sentinel
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Easy time trials

oblique garnet
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also being banned also fucks up your guild doing jaina 🤔

sick sentinel
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Lol

rapid tide
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tfw you didn't abuse it and now feel bad about it.

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Would have gladly taken 2 days for the time it saves

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😦

weary nacelle
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i haven't even heard about it 😄 What happened there?

rapid tide
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You could stack exp potions.

sick sentinel
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You could stack exp pots

weary nacelle
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lal, up to how much?

rapid tide
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40x10%

weary nacelle
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400% bonus exp?

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😄

rapid tide
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idd.

oblique garnet
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Enough to make all leveling trivial

prisma echo
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@weary nacelle reading reddit posts and bans are random. F.ex people who level 110-120 got 7 days bans (which is profiting) but some get 31 days

weary nacelle
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I see. This is funny, but honestly, i've never liked exploits, so i call it deserved

sick sentinel
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Same tbh

weary nacelle
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i bust myself to farm, gear up and do all things properly and in moderation at the same time, and then some funny guys step in and cheat his ass through the game. Not that it really affects us, but it looks like justice 😄

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i can we can sit aside and laugh on the situation now hehe

noble shuttle
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Hello fellow prot warriors. Looking to import a nice interrupt-tracker WA - any recommendations? What do you use?

ionic fern
sick sentinel
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That's the one I use as well

noble shuttle
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Will do. Thanks

pulsar lodge
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Hello guys !
i'm leveling a war which will be prot.
What is our stat priority for M+ and for Raid plz ?
Will be my first tank ever

sick sentinel
oblique garnet
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@ionic fern [23920] = {default=25}, --Spell Reflect add this line to it and share it to your team to help keep track off your spell reflect aswell

sick sentinel
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YO

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THAT'S HUGE

ionic fern
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Nice. I'm usually the one calling the interrupts tho so i can SR when ever. deswind
Still gonna add it for PuG's just in case .

sick sentinel
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where do I add that

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idk about wa stuff

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nvm

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found it I think

oblique garnet
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ACtions and the custom code

prisma echo
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and then you share whole WA?

sick sentinel
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yeah

oblique garnet
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its really nice since it shows the spell reflect from other warriors aswell incase youre not playing prot

stoic pilot
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Everytime I call for SR people get nervous and kick anyways

oblique garnet
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also @potent anvil the cannoneer in siege will die if you do the tentacles with the spotter and put them to a wrong spot

stoic pilot
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I need to make a WA that just shouts that I’m using it -.-

oblique garnet
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They kick regardless

stoic pilot
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You have no idea how sad I am when I miss a reflect on bolt

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On first boss UR

oblique garnet
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oh trust me i do

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because it usually ends up in me dying due to lack of reflect when needed

stoic pilot
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Lmao

ionic fern
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^ Or add being up for too long cause no SR 1 shot.

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😦

oblique garnet
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^

stoic pilot
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I’m so hyped for next week, I finally got my 2nd bastion trait and 2nd DC

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No triple meme dream yet but still should be fun

oblique garnet
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Mwahi i cant push my score

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2 of the keys at 20

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got banned XD

ionic fern
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😂

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Rip.

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We're going for 2.7k next week.deswind

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Also i'm using this now instead of 3BoM/3DC

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How long did they get banned for?

oblique garnet
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one got 31 days

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one got 14

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its really scuffed

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still waiting on my ban lmao

stoic pilot
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Yeah I just really want 3 BoM

weary thorn
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is it from that draught xp pot ban wave?

oblique garnet
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yes

ionic fern
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😂

weary thorn
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thats a rough scuff for sure

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why the different days though? That seems weird

oblique garnet
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no clue

weary thorn
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unless one has exploited before

stoic pilot
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Probably relevant to how hard you abused it

oblique garnet
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i leveled one character from 113-120 but havent gotten ban yet

stoic pilot
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If you used 40 potions to level 5 chars

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Probably harsher punishment than 1 char to 120

weary thorn
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heres the thing though

stoic pilot
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Some dude who went from like 12-30 with potion exploit got like 3 days lol

oblique garnet
#

there are people who got bans from 115-120 for 31 month

#

31 days*

weary thorn
#

gearing 5 characters in this rng hell IS the punishment

oblique garnet
#

not month

stoic pilot
#

Sheesh

ionic fern
#

It's called Titanforging @oblique garnet

oblique garnet
#

ye

stoic pilot
#

Lmao

weary thorn
#

I've had a warrior with a 355 mh for two weeks now

#

because nothing drops

#

AD hates me

#

nothing from grong, conc this week either

stoic pilot
#

I’m curious to see exactly how many high end teams actually can’t compete in mdi cuz of this though

#

I know nnogga did the exploit

oblique garnet
#

method healers

#

alot of them

#

did the exploit

umbral forge
#

I leveled a shaman from 60 to 74 with it and I haven't been banned.
I hope they only ban people who did it from 110-1120.

cobalt trellis
#

are they banned for tournament realm too?

oblique garnet
#

yes

cobalt trellis
#

oh its the same acc i guess

#

rip

sick sentinel
#

its been hilarious watching this wave right before raids open

cobalt trellis
#

i think it depends on the effect, you get more if you stacked more, i have no idea how they backtrack those things.. maybe its easier to track if you used those in dungeons/timewalkin

stoic pilot
#

Here’s a question, unrelated to current topic. How do you make a route for waycrest? Do you just kind of go on the idea you need 84% (I think?) before going downstairs

#

Wish waycrest was the same as HOV where it auto picked the same door over and over

tidal scarab
#

I know Legion was a while back but don't remember any auto picked doors in halls?

ionic fern
#

I do that roughly jeah Meeker.

tidal scarab
#

@ionic fern Btw chill ok, no pass me please

#

My healer got banned 😦

ionic fern
#

😦

stoic pilot
#

In HOV

#

it was always the left path in fenryrs room

ionic fern
#

I noticed that you threw up into like 2.6k or something in over a night. 😂

oblique garnet
#

You gotta be professional ban dodger

tidal scarab
#

like 10 points off 2.7k now

#

We just gained like 300 score in 1 evening

ionic fern
#

Nice.

#

Next week all depends if we find a dedicated 3rd DPS or not. 😦

tidal scarab
#

I'm still running 1 BoM because 1st boss just never drops the chest and no luck on vendor for helms

#

Missing out on big pad dps

oblique garnet
#

UR is gonna be pain next week

crisp pecan
#

but this week is walk in the park

oblique garnet
#

yeah pretty much

tidal scarab
#

Did 20 UR last night, on 2nd boss pull, DH gets 1 shot by charge - loses meta/lust

#

Was a big yikes fight

#

Btw, I don't know if this is known but you can't get the buff that takes you down to last boss room if you leap into the tunnel

#

Had to speed pot through it and die lol

stoic pilot
#

Did you try walking out and in again?

#

Or just decided to just haul ass and die anyways

tidal scarab
#

Nah. I leaped like mid way into it and just went down cause the reaping wave was up

stoic pilot
#

Ahh okay

tidal scarab
#

Good thing we had ele with earth elemental

stoic pilot
#

Rocky boi saves the day

ionic fern
#

Oh, i wanted to ask you - how much DPS is that elemental shaman doing?

oblique garnet
#

They do alot

tidal scarab
#

Like average 30k? He specs more ST usually

ionic fern
#

That i hear but i need numbers. 😂

tidal scarab
#

His boss dmg is pretty big

stoic pilot
#

Ours only does about 23-24k overall 😦

tidal scarab
#

I mean I run with a scuffed 407 rogue, still does a shit ton

stoic pilot
#

While we have ww monk / DH doing 30-32

#

I want a rogue for my group but nobody wants to actually play it lol

tidal scarab
#

Think not playing rogue is pretty yikes

winter aspen
#

How is next week worse ? It looks like a joke

stoic pilot
#

Yeah it’s definitely rough @tidal scarab

winter aspen
#

Volcanic a free affix

oblique garnet
#

Teeming tyrannical

stoic pilot
#

We’re still low end though so it works

oblique garnet
#

And volcanic is not free affix on last boss of UR

tidal scarab
#

Yeah I guess, some keys you can even run double rogue on 20's

stoic pilot
#

Not sure how high we can go but

#

I’m pretty sure we can get over 2k at the very least

ionic fern
#

Easily.

#

We ran without a rogue to like 2.2k.

stoic pilot
#

The only thing I’m really having trouble with is skipping a lot in tol

#

It’s so hard without a rogue

tidal scarab
#

I mean you can invis pot pretty much the same shit a shroud can

#

Invis pots are even better, 0 chance of pulling

stoic pilot
#

Yeah we’ve mostly covered it with invis

tidal scarab
#

Thing is rogues do a lot of dmg and have great utility

oblique garnet
#

You lose prepot

tidal scarab
#

I mean on a 20

#

Pots don't matter that much

#

Unless it's some big tyranical key

#

And they are on 5min cd now instead 10

winter aspen
#

Outlaw is nr1 dmg tho

tidal scarab
#

Yeah when outlaw goes full ham

#

Shit just melts

winter aspen
#

And they get boosted alot by that wari buff

tidal scarab
#

You don't have that with anyone else

stoic pilot
#

Our comp is really ideal

#

For a outlaw rogue

#

So it’s a shame we don’t have one

oblique garnet
#

I wonder if you could 2 chest tol 24 this week with double rogues

junior ivy
#

who is mwahi

winter aspen
#

I hate when ppl dont put their char name in discord

oblique garnet
#

Thats too much effort

winter aspen
#

Its like those lvl 1 alts on wow forums

ionic fern
#

Hi, i'm Mwahi.

umbral forge
#

Should I change my Nick to my Warrior

weary thorn
#

oh, hi mark

junior ivy
#

are you new mwahi

primal crypt
#

He's old

#

Like bleu cheese

#

Did you resub cat?

junior ivy
#

i didn't yet

primal crypt
#

Or still real lifing

junior ivy
#

i don't remmeber him

primal crypt
#

Still holding that job you left wow for?

junior ivy
#

yeah job and bf means i have no time

#

been trying to convince my bf to play wow with me lol

primal crypt
#

Buns

junior ivy
#

i told him id build him a cheap PC with his tax return money

#

and we can play wow

#

he said maybe

primal crypt
#

Kek

junior ivy
#

lol

primal crypt
#

He dont care

junior ivy
#

i miss wow 😭

ionic fern
#

I've been here since i re-subbed in Legion 😄

primal crypt
#

WoW requires you to care

#

It's an old game

#

For old people

junior ivy
#

i see how he gets so into his stupid mobile games

#

i bet he'd care

primal crypt
#

Lmao, mobile games are fun though

#

They're easy access

knotty wagon
#

I dont play a single mobile game

#

I just read manga

primal crypt
#

Manga is good too

knotty wagon
#

because im a dirty weeb

junior ivy
#

i will download mobile games sometimes and play ythem for a couple days then get bored and forget about them

#

he manages to play the same mobile game for like a year straight

#

i dunno how

primal crypt
#

Same cat, same

#

If Im gonna a play a game, might as well be on my pc

junior ivy
#

same

#

but hes so not a pc gamer. he has a shitty old laptop that cant run anything

#

i gotta convert him

primal crypt
#

Ill keep a couple on my phone for when im out and about

#

Like snake

#

Or tetris

#

Something I can whip out real quick

oblique garnet
#

Wait yamo wtf

#

Wows for old people???

#

Wow

primal crypt
#

Even then, I end up in here to talk to late instead

#

Lmaooooo

#

Yeah, wow is for the old heads

#

It's almost at the end for me as far as games go

#

Gotta find something new

junior ivy
#

i got a new game for oyu

#

ive been playing it every day

sick sentinel
#

for higher dungeons ilvl > all ?

oblique garnet
#

Wow is more like an drug than a game tbh

junior ivy
#

THIS HOSPITAL GAME

#

ITS SO FUN

sick sentinel
#

it is

#

holy shit

#

my brother is addicted to it lol

oblique garnet
#

You think you can quit it but you always get back on it

primal crypt
#

Yeah, you always come back

#

Lately though, I've been willingly not logging on

#

Like, id rather lay on the couch and watch youtube and go to sleep

#

Wow is slipping away

junior ivy
#

i miss the community in wow 😦

oblique garnet
#

I just want the fucking parrot and then i can quit

junior ivy
#

like half my social life used to be wow, itrs sad but true

#

and now i'm missing that huge chunk of socializxing

primal crypt
#

@oblique garnet remember that dps that quit

#

He just got the red one from freehold

oblique garnet
#

Ye

#

...

#

Im at 357 harlan sweete kills

primal crypt
#

Didnt care he got it

#

Like it didnt matter to him

#

"Ill never use this"

#

Wow socializing died a long time ago

signal plover
#

Wtf catfriend is back?

primal crypt
#

Just to chat

signal plover
#

The OG prot warr mascot

primal crypt
#

Trying to convince bf to play wow

signal plover
#

Play division 2 instead,

#

Fiance and I been loving it.

primal crypt
#

I wish someone would develop a new mmo

#

Small modular style

signal plover
#

I do too.

junior ivy
#

hi

#

i'm not back for good

primal crypt
#

Up to date graphics

junior ivy
#

i was on last night drunk talking to everyone

signal plover
#

So you're back for evil?

primal crypt
#

With room to grow

junior ivy
#

i got to talk to my 3 favourites

#

and some other favourites

signal plover
#

I mean I was holding out hope for ashes of creation but they've really been fumbling lately and I'm getting a strong EQNext vibe there

junior ivy
#

what's that game that is comin out soon

signal plover
#

If u came back would you race change from gnome?

junior ivy
#

no why would i ?!

signal plover
#

K ur still dead to me

#

But best wishes

junior ivy
#

😡

#

o last night i learned that thyme is from california and my mind was blown

oblique garnet
#

How much is division 2

signal plover
#

I think k standard is 60

#

No sense to get the other versions

#

Thyme being from Cali makes sense imo

primal crypt
#

Gross

#

Cali

#

Its so wet over there

#

And cold

junior ivy
#

i thouight he was european

#

all this time

#

lol

#

cali isnt cold

#

youre crazy

signal plover
#

Ya what Cali have you been to

oblique garnet
#

Cold

primal crypt
#

San Fran was

#

LA isnt bad

signal plover
#

Their number one danger is fuckin fire lol

oblique garnet
#

You folk dont know anything about cold

primal crypt
#

But it reminds me of home so screw LA

signal plover
#

Ey I'm in Chicago

primal crypt
#

@oblique garnet i dont care if it's actually cold

signal plover
#

We get some glimpses of cold...not Dakota Minnesota Canada cold tho

primal crypt
#

Like San Fran has bits of drizzling rain thats just annoying

oblique garnet
#

I live in an igloo smh

primal crypt
#

And then slight winds

#

Enough to put the drizzle sideways a little

#

So it's in your eyes

junior ivy
#

i spent a month in california like mauybe 7 years ago

#

i loved it so much

signal plover
#

In the industry?

junior ivy
#

as a canadian i thought it was warm and perfect

#

what industry

primal crypt
#

Lmao Canadia

oblique garnet
junior ivy
#

what lol

primal crypt
#

Canada uses shield slam

oblique garnet
#

It goes off topic so fast its nice

junior ivy
#

what industry lol

signal plover
#

Ya it's real easy to derail here

#

The industry

#

In California

#

That women sometimes go to work in

junior ivy
#

is that a porn joke

#

its funny cause i worked for a porn company for 4 years (not as an actor)

#

so i actually was pretty involved with the industry

signal plover
#

No its a Hollywood joke ya perv

junior ivy
#

just not in california

signal plover
#

Y'all need jesus

junior ivy
#

😂

signal plover
#

(yes obv it was a porn joke)

junior ivy
#

i still got so many porn tshirts i cant wear in public

#

lmao

signal plover
#

Weve got a guild that was IT for Brazzers

junior ivy
#

i just keep them stashed awya in a drawer

#

yeah i worked for brazzers

#

well, the company that owns brazzers

#

tjhey also own pornhub

signal plover
#

Porn shirt drawer collection 2019- by catfriend

junior ivy
#

and like 100 other sites

#

so that guild must have been canadian eh

#

lol

#

since brazzers is canadian

signal plover
#

He is Canadian yes

junior ivy
#

k i dont wanna get in trouble for talking about porn

#

lets talk about wow

signal plover
#

Admins coming in hot to halt the porn chats

primal crypt
#

🍆

lusty grotto
#

Excuse me

#

Can you guys get on topic please

#

Sekiro out today yay

primal crypt
#

Wtf is a sekiro

weary thorn
#

souls-like game

#

looks pretty sweet

lusty grotto
junior ivy
#

whats trhat new game coming out

#

i forget its name

#

help

#

😦

weary thorn
#

If you aren't referring to sekiro, can you be more descriptive than that new game

narrow abyss
#

Morning friends

junior ivy
#

no seriously

#

whats its called

#

its a new game comin out

weary thorn
#

heres the thing, I have no idea because without a time frame or description theres nothing to go on to figure out what game you are talking about

#

unless you're trolling me, in which case you win

signal plover
#

Bro it's a new game coming out

#

Duh

weary thorn
#

so option 2

#

got it

signal plover
#

I don't think she is

#

I am tho

junior ivy
#

lemme google it

#

you guys suck

signal plover
#

This'll be entertaining

weary thorn
#

hope that helps

weary nacelle
#

😄

junior ivy
#

thje outer worlds

#

i think?

#

or is it days gone

#

ive heard of both

#

are either gonna be good?

winter aspen
#

Ah yeah

#

From Fallout:NV devs

junior ivy
#

i just need a casual game

#

i can play a few hours a week

winter aspen
#

So wow

junior ivy
#

no lol

signal plover
#

Division 22222

junior ivy
#

i guess ill just keep playing my hospital game

jovial haven
#

so they handed out bans to those that exploited the xp pot

#

glad i was stuck at work that day. now i get to spend my weekend farming for trinkets LuL

warm plinth
#

Huge shocker.

Were you gonna do it if you weren't? 😬

vocal skiff
#

I got a 415 seal of questionable loyalties with a socket yesterday

#

I used to be cheap and put +27 haste, but since I won't be replacing that one for some time, I decided to take the plunge and get a +37

warm plinth
#

Nice

oblique garnet
#

Still no ban tho

jovial haven
#

honestly don't know, had thought about it if it was still available when i got home, but wasn't a for sure thing i was gonna do

oblique garnet
#

Worth it

jovial haven
#

says bans vary depending on how much it was exploited. longest they could find was a 31 day ban

warm plinth
#

Getting banned for a month for a leveling exploit just doesn't seem worth it.

jovial haven
#

especially if you were gonna be in on the mdi or WF race of next raid

warm plinth
#

Yeah

opal peak
#

I almost lvled my pally

#

If they banned depending on extent a single 110-120 prob coulda been safe 😳

knotty wagon
#

Method has 3 weeks to gear josh another priest

#

Shouod be fine :v

jovial haven
#

yea, figured he was gonna get hit hard

opal peak
#

Wait josh got banned? Lmao

oblique garnet
#

Josh did one character

knotty wagon
#

Yes

umbral forge
#

For how long

knotty wagon
#

He wont say

umbral forge
#

Lol

jovial haven
#

he did it on stream 100 pots 110-120 in 45 min

oblique garnet
#

Probably 7 days

knotty wagon
#

Even if full month

opal peak
#

Imagine boosting ur dude on stream when ur that big

knotty wagon
#

3 weeks of mythic and heroic split runs

opal peak
#

Thinking ur safe

knotty wagon
#

Should be more thsn enough tbf

warm plinth
#

A lot of people on the Reddit thread only did one toon from 110-113 to 20 and got a month ban

#

To 120*

torn gust
#

Whats better, haste mastery shield or haste crit,

lilac jackal
#

wait; why were people getting banned?

opal peak
#

My buddy did 2 toons and safe

warm plinth
#

Whichever one is higher ilevel @torn gust

jovial haven
#

xp pot exploiting

knotty wagon
#

Leveling exploit

lilac jackal
#

ahh

knotty wagon
#

Apparently me having the opinion, that people who got banned deserved it

torn gust
#

same ilevel

opal peak
#

I mean josh will get ilvl quick but his neck is gunna be a pain

knotty wagon
torn gust
#

both 410

jovial haven
#

that's why they're general pop LuL

knotty wagon
#

My neck is almost 40

#

In like 4 days

#

Not even really doing all the wq

#

Dont forget 25% squish per week

jovial haven
#

my dk neck is 43 warriors is 41 and pallies is 31

warm plinth
#

What is almost 40? 36? Or 39.5?

knotty wagon
#

39.5

exotic spoke
#

Yeah, eventually you’re hard pressed to get more than 1 level a week

warm plinth
#

That's pretty fast

knotty wagon
#

They speedrun islands

oblique garnet
#

Doubt they will gear him up a new priest

warm plinth
#

But i imagine the curve is pretty steep

opal peak
#

?

oblique garnet
#

Unless josh got 31 day ban

knotty wagon
#

Its pretty easy rn

#

Honestly

#

Even 30 day ban

opal peak
#

Big streamer exploits on stream

jovial haven
#

yea, they'll just do like 8hrs a day farming islands for his neck

knotty wagon
#

He will still ve therr for mythic release

opal peak
#

He prob got a month

exotic spoke
#

YeahC he can just use those experience pots to help level his new priest

knotty wagon
#

Dont forget mythic is out a week after heroi

jovial haven
#

i'm sure he was made out be an example

knotty wagon
#

So 23 of april

opal peak
#

Also he’s gunna make a dude just to stream so he’ll get people to carry

oblique garnet
exotic spoke
#

Lol

opal peak
#

Oh tru lol rip josh mdi

knotty wagon
#

But yeah, seriously, method shouod be fibe

#

They can either setup new priest

warm plinth
#

Oh well. Had to know there would be consequences

knotty wagon
#

Or wait until mytjic coc

opal peak
#

I bet they purposefully waited for mdi to start gaining motion to ban and heck teams

#

Or try and heck I’m

#

Um

knotty wagon
#

I thought they were gonna wait u til like april 15th

#

Then stsrt handing out bans

#

Killing all progress dreams

warm plinth
#

Should have done bans on April 1st so they thought it was a joke at first 😂

opal peak
#

Nah they shoulda done it right away

exotic spoke
#

I agree with cuddles

warm plinth
#

I'm kidding. I don't care when they did it tbh. It was deserved regardless, though i really wish they'd be consistent with exploits.

knotty wagon
#

They were proply collecting names

#

Sorting through logs of everyone who bought potions

#

And level time, and confirming

#

Whonwas exploiting

#

Which takes time

glacial olive
#

haha I doubt it takes very long for them to collect those logs

exotic spoke
#

The one saying was “exploit early and exploit often”

#

And yeah, it likely doesn’t take long to get that information

knotty wagon
#

Iirc they have to verify it all

opal peak
#

Also they coulda done rolling banns

#

As they found out

knotty wagon
#

True

#

🤔

warm plinth
#

Maybe they wanted the consequences to be equal? Like it wouldn't be fair to give someone a month ban and have no effect on the raid opening, but someone who gets banned for a month today misses the opening

opal peak
#

Also the xploit was fixed awhile ago now... I doubt it took this long to get the names of everyone they banned

exotic spoke
#

I don’t think it warrants a 31 day ban personally

opal peak
#

Eh

#

If u stack xp pots

#

U know ur exploiting

#

Like idk

knotty wagon
#

I think the 31 day bans

exotic spoke
#

Of course cuddles. But I mean 2 weeks max imo

knotty wagon
#

Should be reserved for streamers

opal peak
#

Not saying it def should be 31 days

narrow abyss
#

If ur getting that much exp that quickly you know it’s not intended

exotic spoke
#

Not at all.

knotty wagon
#

And other figures in the community with large followings

opal peak
#

But I don’t think it’s unfair

knotty wagon
#

To send a message

warm plinth
#

I just think it's hilarious how inconsistent they are with exploit punishments

knotty wagon
#

Preach got 30 days

#

I expect josh to get 30+ for showing people how to do it

#

Etc

exotic spoke
#

I think something that saves a day or two in time shouldn’t warrant more than 2 week bam

warm plinth
#

Even within this one exploit, some of the durations seem totally random. People who did 20 levels on a low level toon got 2 weeks while someone who did 110-120 got 3 days

knotty wagon
#

Im curious as to how they are determining this

#

Is it like a team of 10 gm

#

All giving out sifferent pu ishments

exotic spoke
#

As hockey fans say about player suspensions - they spun the wheel

oblique garnet
#

Im just waitibg

#

For my ban

#

As an excuse to stop

exotic spoke
#

Truth

warm plinth
#

An excuse to stop what?

sand egret
#

not really how bans work tbh, I dunno how their system works in full but i do know its quite a....robust machine.

exotic spoke
#

If we get one it’ll be a nice vacation . Just as a general statement

#

If they ban for cauldrons I’ll be getting a short one so ehhhh we’ll see

knotty wagon
#

Guy did 113-120 and 23-40 got 31 day ba

opal peak
#

@exotic spoke shhhh

warm plinth
#

What was the cauldron one?

opal peak
#

Tbh cauldron shouldn’t get a ban

knotty wagon
#

One guy did 114-120 and got 31 days

#

Lmaooo

opal peak
#

It was literally looting something that spawned

exotic spoke
#

@opal peak I didn’t shard hop: we had that shot figured out

opal peak
#

Ghash

exotic spoke
#

We had three groups - positions one at each cauldron. Everyone could loot the new alchemy cauldron every 20 seconds

opal peak
#

When u have alchy tools of trade u can loot cauldrons through bfa zones

exotic spoke
#

We now have enough cauldrons to drop in raids for the next year

opal peak
#

That give a singular random pot/flask or even cauldron

#

That spawn once every 6ish min

#

But they were spawning every 20 seconds

warm plinth
#

Oh

exotic spoke
#

Because they were like herbs. And out of a cluster at least one HAD to be up

warm plinth
#

Was there anything officially stating what their respawn timer was supposed to be?

winter aspen
#

Wtf I need to get those tools asap

opal peak
#

Ya I know a lot of Chinese guilds have hundreds of cauldrons

exotic spoke
#

Find the cluster and you got free loot

#

It’s not worth doing anymore

opal peak
#

Wowhead says 6 min

exotic spoke
#

They not only fixed it but they also needed it

oblique garnet
#

An excuse to stop playing

warm plinth
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That's a lot more understandable though; I mean, what are people gonna do, loot and set a timer for 6 minutes and only loot when it goes off? I mean, give me a break

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Oh, why do you need one? If you don't want to play, hit the unsub button

oblique garnet
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I cant

exotic spoke
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I powerlevelrd alchemy during raid so I could do the quests afterwards Got a stupid amount of shut in 2 hours and just watched a movie as I did it

opal peak
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Well that’s the point - it wasn’t worth farming so it’s a cool free flask or pot or something every once in awhile

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But it was bugged so u could farm

warm plinth
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Yeah, Blizzard has to own that one imo

little marsh
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yeah but one thing is separating pots and gain an unexpected buff stacking and other thing is loot shit form the floor that has quick spawn

opal peak
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It was like that for like 2 weeks

warm plinth
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Yeah, I agree, totally different

opal peak
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But most people didn’t even know about it until the end

exotic spoke
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I think one week cuddles

warm plinth
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As long as you weren't doing something unethical to make them spawn faster, you did nothing wrong

little marsh
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I mean, you're not sharding, you're not bugging a quest, not looting the same item. You looted one, despawned and in a few seconds spawned a new one

opal peak
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It was since 815 launch

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Was about a week and a half at least

warm plinth
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Yeah, exactly Lawkh.

exotic spoke
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I dunno I’m just here so I don’t get fined

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Unrelated question - anyone else’s bracket already trashed?

warm plinth
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I don't usually do one because I'm not a basketball fan. When I do them I usually just randomize XD

inland mesa
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wait they banned people for the alchemy abuse too and not just xp pot?

exotic spoke
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No chewtoy

daring marlin
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Banning people for the XP pot thing is the dumebst shit.

jovial haven
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can't ban for powerleveling a profession, unless an exploit is used, which i've not seen outside of botting

daring marlin
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No, I didn't get banned because I didn't do it.

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I know people who did, though.

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That shit is whack.

jovial haven
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everyone knew they would ban for it... so to think you wouldn't get banned for it is just crazy

daring marlin
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To assume everyone knew you'd get banned for it is absurd.

exotic spoke
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A month is excessive

jovial haven
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you knew the pots weren't supposed to stack. so you knew doing so wasn't intended use of the pots

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if you stacked less than 5 i'm sure they didn't care, it's where there were an excessive amount stacked

daring marlin
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5 or 50 should be no difference.

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Sounds like you abused it somewhat.

jovial haven
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yes there should. everyone knew they weren't meant to stack

exotic spoke
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Who cares about leveling. The game starts at max level

daring marlin
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reporting you to blizzard :^)

jovial haven
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no actually i didn't because i was at work

daring marlin
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@exotic spoke yep lol

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leveling in this game is the worst chore

exotic spoke
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I don’t entirely agree with @daring marlin I think a ban is fine. But I think the length is excessive

opal peak
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Same

oblique garnet
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I stacked 31

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No ban yet

knotty wagon
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I quite enjoy leveling :C

opal peak
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I think a ban is def deserved, is length appropriate? Meh prob not a month but imo if u exploit and get banned idk if u can really complain about the length 🤷🏻‍♂️

jovial haven
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there's 1 reason why they are banning, big streamers doing it and spreading the word about it. if it was a small group of people that weren't known like these streamers, they would have just rolled it back, if that even. As for the length of the ban, they are judging that by how bad you abused it

knotty wagon
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A few dsys for most would ve fi e

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But streamers should get 1 month

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Ez

daring marlin
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I'm amazed that people are ok with other players getting a ban just because of a LEVELING exploit.

jovial haven
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they may be getting the longer ones. idk anyone that got banned, yet

knotty wagon
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Id prefer perma bans.

exotic spoke
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No they shouldn’t @knotty wagon Everyone should be equal based on what they did in game. I don’t care if you stream or don’t.

daring marlin
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Even if you consider it ill gotten gains------people like you are the worst, Sab.

knotty wagon
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Sharing an exploit

exotic spoke
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Get the fuck out with that permaban shit

knotty wagon
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Is worse than preforming exploit

lilac jackal
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i'm amazed that people are okay with other players getting a ban just because of an exploit - fixed that for ya.

daring marlin
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I mean.

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Does it affect your gameplay in the slightest?

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Why do you care?

opal peak
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Imagine exploiting a game and thinking it doesn’t deserve a ban

knotty wagon
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Because, i choose not to break the rules.

oblique garnet
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Sharing how to do the exploit on thousands of viewers is worse than doing the exploit for one or few toons

daring marlin
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Making use of their shitty code. epic

lilac jackal
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i dont care really. but i am not suprised that somone exploited a game and got banned for it.

daring marlin
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Surely Josh got a ban, right?

knotty wagon
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Yes

oblique garnet
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He did

inland mesa
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or publicly mocking that you won't get banned for it while doing said exploit XD

daring marlin
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good

oblique garnet
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Didnt specify how long or an ban

knotty wagon
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Preach got a month, josh probably got a month

oblique garnet
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Preach did like 8 characters

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Josh did one

opal peak
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Ya I mean big streamers should prob get a longer ban but not strictly Bc they’re a streamer that did it but Bc they did it and shared to thousands of people how to do it

knotty wagon
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Someone did one character

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From 114-120

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And got 31 days

oblique garnet
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Its complete rng

jovial haven
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well 6 levels, depends on how many pots they stacked and all that