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Yeah but I don't want the shit like oh this 860 trinket is better than a 915
That feels like shit
Yeah, lol
uhhh
lower ilvl trinkets doing something is cool
it was passive....
Monk using t19 in t20 LUL
I think a better iteration of relinquished is to make it default type gear, not dungeon/raid drops
tier sets were so good every time they released a new one they had to nerf the old ones so you didn't wanna go farm them for the PHAT TITANFORGES
I've seen high titan forge t19 from relinquish
Warlocks still used old sets too
Yeah, the worst was BM hunters
4s/2s
Was actually insane
Having to use T19/T20 that was just trash ilevel because it was so good
But yeah I wouldn't mind some way of farming a currency to buy gear when you're down on your luck or just don't have a ton of time to play
Azerite is better than tier set imo
Oh, for certain
fuck no
Tier sets were awesome but the problem is that you had to design the game and the classes around them
Esp for certain big stats tier set like chest and pants being on later bosses was stupid
So every time a new tier set came out, you either kept the old one because it was so good, or you had to nerf it into oblivion and then retune the class to bring it back up to snuff
trying to imagine tier sets now
i dont understand how that's a problem
Because Blizzard fucking blows at class design to begin with
Giving that team more work to do is a recipe for disaster
same way it was in legion?
Blood dk azerite traits LUL
i didnt
sounds terrible
It's ok nim
you're entitled to your objectively wrong opinion
personal loot is ok in one place and that's M+
yeah dude
Personal loot is better than masterloot
how do you 2 solve split runs then?
Cosmo โค
If you're not in top guild master loot is useless
What do you mean by solve split runs
the amount of times I've seen people go hey I got this warforged piece but can't trade it because it has shit stats for me
is amazing
Because they still exist ๐ค
that being said, personal loot is a tangent, tier sets were good and azerite is crap
yep
It's just more effort required to do them
If you think ML was bad then you never had a good ML
I will say that I don't like how unimpactful azerite is compared to tier though
Most of it anyway
ML was good, but as an officer and raid lead for... some 5 odd years on my guild i will say "good riddance"
i was happy legion had personal, it was instantly turned on
And by impactful I mean like, to a point where you get excited about it in a meaningful way. Getting a good trait is still good but you're excited only because you know it's the best one.
I can say the same
for every run i lead
i cant believe you liked loot councils/DKP shit fucking systems
that felt like a 5th job
I loved it.
you guys didnt do it long enough then
When your system is good
I like loot coucil the best
DKP was a terrible system; loot council at least made sense
did i miss cosmo
Sounds like you had a shit system for ML
It was instant
Dude Iโve been the Gm and raid leader for this guild founded in 2009 I think I qualify for long enough
We basically just handed it out to the biggest upgrade
We preplanned all drops
OMG whats the shitty systme my guilkd used to use
i forget its name
help
it was some addon
@timid jay same here bud
Our guild has ZERO and I mean zero loot drama
shit was ez
It was probably loot council, though I can't remember the name of the addon being used in Legion
Regardless, those issues don't give any valid reason to remove ML
it wasnt loot council
yep
Sure some guilds might like PL
They should have kept the option
we had to have a giant interventioin with GM to get loot council
before that it was something else
It was like you chose whether it was an upgrade or not
But why in the flying fuck would you remove ML?
Oh, hmm
ok fine dont remove ML
Yeah, I think the freedom should exist
EPGP
im not arguing about removing it
Since different people like different things and in the long run it won't matter.
ML helps you direct gear at progression when needed. I would love it back lol
personal loot is just superior
How is is superior nimchimp?
EPGP.
Personal loot and just letting people trade to eligible looters would be nice
Personal loot would be better
If there were 0 trade restrictions
No
Literally having free for all is better with a guild you trust
I want the loot on the boss
If you were missing a DPS check and then had no way to funnel loot to dps players how is that superior from a progression stand point?
Can actually give loot to the people who need it
Than it might as well be master loot
objectively speaking
not based on who is in the raid
it was superior for me
I can definitely see some benefits to personal loot
sorry i dont have fucking patience to deal with drama
they were instantly gkicked
and that was it
But there is no way to categorically say one is superior to the other
I tihnk this entire discussion is silly because who cares how other people dish out their loot ๐
loot council/whatever has better high ends but lower lows
Oh right @knotty wagon Iโll spam M+ to get more guaranteed 415.. good idea
Too bad PL is a way lower average
cosmo do you play wow
personal loot has a statistical low end to gearing rate that his higher than any other method where the group/guild is buttholes
cosmo
@junior ivy No I quit
maple story
its like a remake of theme hospital
oh lol
lol
oh right no external
lets go
@round vortex isnt +15 in time 6 gauranteed 400+ pieces?
Yea. 400 pieces. What if I need one particular player to get some gear and we are all 410+ ilvl
I only play comp
can we all play arms race tonioght
I want to funnel loot when progression is required.
In how long?
Build a group arpund fu beling loot
Was my point
Because its already late
Thyme isn't EU ๐ค
im na
You wouldnt know from his schedule
Iโm out. Need a mental break from people with absolutely no idea lol
I mean, his ancestors probably were
california
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iWHAT
I know where he lives
LOL BARATUS
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thats like the opposite of europe
@daring marlin โค๏ธ
Weird, it's almost like he's not european
why was i so convinced youre european
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i always thought wow his english is so good
rofl
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It's hard sometimes my dude
i cant ever play wow again
casue i didnt finish readingf a book my guild officer wrote
and the guilt is overwhelming
lol
...what?
he wrote a young adult fantasy novel
and i dsaid id read it
i got 60% through the book
and got too busy to finish
and i feel too guilty to ever log on again
catfriend I don't even
Just...what?
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What was the book?
its one he wrote
nbot published yet
its a yougn adult fantasy novel
i forget its name
well
its on my kindle
If he wrote it that makes more sense
hes been trying to get it published
Tempest of Fate sounds super original
is it called "ML is shit: an opinion that triggers Guilfart's lead"?
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i read a lot and i told him id give him feedback
but i bit off more than i could chew
i started new job shortly after
and got a bf
so now ive bene too busy
dimchimp I love you
and its been months since i read it, so i forget what was going on in the plot where i left off
Imagine being that triggered about being wrong about loot
L O L
ffs when I was doing my 10-man group we didn't even do ML half the time. We just did group loot and divvied it out to whoever needed the piece most.
rip 10-man "heroic"
I miss 10 man
that.. i do miss
shit was fun
Thyme if you live in cali
Soes that mean you are a nice person
I put "heroic" because that was mythic
I heard cali is canads 2.0
Thyme is the exception to the rule
Wut
Suoer left too
Minnesota is Canada 2.0
Im talking about the peeps not the weather
thyme should be canadian
So am I
should be?
Its 17c
I wish they'd just do 10-man mythic alongside 20.
yeah
Im dying i need ac
That'd be sweet.
ez
How do you guys handle the hot spring temps?
But why
its an honour to be canadian
Frt me the fuck out of canada
I do have moose's in Sweden
idd, it's probably better than being american right now...
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Let me go home to UK
Lol Thyme
Where my ancestors came from
America, fuck yeah!
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i dont like canada in winter but its almost spring
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so now i like canada again
uh oh former yellow fight
i love winter
Im genetically more from sweden thsn canada
colder t he better
รlgar @warm plinth
see thyme youre canadian at heart
lol
I hate na
I still have my swedish Worldcrusher Cosmo
Yeah
@crystal spire is BiS canadian
Canadians are known to be rude, loud and expect everyone to talk English abroad
oh wait
thats americans
lol
Ditto
most americans ive met have been really nice too, but theres always a few who conform to stereotypes lol
But canadians are mean af
I am actually scared to go overseas because I'm worried I'll get stranded somewhere and no one will speak my language because I'm a dumb American who never learned another one
pretty much
English isnfine
lol in a lot of europe they speak ebtter english than americans ๐
Communication can be done throigh gestures
I may be biased because I live and have always lived in America but most people I've met have been decent
google translate is amazing nowadays
And trying to understand one another
Except when I lived in NY.
go to germany they will apologize for their english while speaking like an english professor
Where are you planning on getting stranded where they dont speak english?
Most people there are complete jackasses.
Rsther than giving up
Good luck finding anyone who isnt at least passable in english here
Between NY/WI/VA/OH, NY had the most rude, entitled assholes of them all.
ive been to like 21 states, ive found the nicest people have been in maine, vermont,
"Where's Cosmo live?" Who the fuck is Cosmo?
I love Cosmo
maine people are great though theyre basiclaly canadian
Almost as much as I love Thyme
cosmo was second best SF
^
lol
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Thyme had an emoji; it's not even a contest
why
legion, prime time
We have unyun
yes catfriend misses alavisto
yess legion
can somebody give me a tl;dr of the past like 1000 messages in 20 words or less?
oh hey cat ๐
ML good
you know who id ont fucking miss though ๐
PL bad
NO KAEGE
@sick sentinel tl;dr who cares
Canadians are better than americans
nice, thanks
๐ cosmo
lol cat
@sick sentinel also personal loot is garbage
๐ฅ asked me to send him the pins in here today because he's still banned ๐
Think that about sums it up?
and nimchip loves it
yeah he's asked me a few warrior related things as well @warm plinth
uhhh
you'd say i went through so much fucking loot drama
He didnt ask me after I flamed him in DM's
Americans>Canadians
lol
We have more rights bruh
Poor Ala; he's just a kid
ROFL alavisto asking for pins
A hyperactive kid
canadians haven't hurt anyone
@chilly brook ๐
they can't even hurt themselves
@daring marlin hi fren
oh yeah
canada and america are BFFs
I thought that was the aliens?
Why cant we just do it again
lets be friends now
can i say it
Something tells me that wouldn't have worked so well if the US wasn't so new as a nation
Let's not wax political now folks
BFFs
are there any 2 countries more BFFs than canada and america
RUSSIAN STEREOTYPE
I also don't think that would ever happen again ๐
muh russia
there is literally nothing that I could care less about
Than what?
so cya tomorrow I guess
america is like the loud boistrerous outgoing big brother and canada is the quiet nerdy little brother but deep down we love each other
At the time it wasn't just Canada that was involved @knotty wagon
ััะบะฐ ะฑะปััั?
than this discussion
ENGLISH BRO
Youre the bitch
cyka blyat
Suka blyat
cheeki breeki
Canada was part of the British Empire at the time
Cheeki breeki
I'm American and am entitled to read everything in English @timid jay ๐
big pog
So it wasn't exactly Canada
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But yeah canads is like 80 years younger than the usa
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canada is little bro america is big bro
I can only offer you 3 vowels
Lets go back to be ling in uk
รฅรครถ
lol
I need to expand on my Swedish cursing
calice
You know
omulette du fromage
Hook me up Cosmo
tabarnakkkkkk
quebec has hilarious curses
@junior ivy 2b
I'm honestly expecting Sal to come away from idle at any time and just go "What in the actual fuck is going on in here?"
Just the monthly derailment
Didnt Sal quit?
Actually he's been pretty anti-offtopic lately
sal and paw
Or is that not official yet?
dont forget paw
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ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
everyone i used to play wow with quit
idr if it's official cosmo
except like
Not judging him or anything. I get it; you're a mod.
the guy who wrote the book
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I just think it'd be funny if he did
the 2 people i used to do everything ewith on wow quit
Here you go have fun
they were an internet couple
Oh
i wonder if theyre still together
YOu know a nice trick that works on chinese players online?
i must find out
ni hao?
lol i know where this is going cosmo
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Pm them say CNM
Do you know what I've wondered for a long time? What does FDP mean?
Rhey will freak the fuck out
ROFL
whyy dont you ask the kids at tienanmen square, is fashion the reason why they were thereee, they disguise it hypnotize it
it is
lol remmeber SOAD.
filo da puta
system of a down
it means son of a bitch
lol
Oh
in portuguese
Cnm = fuck your mother
That's actually kinda anticlimactic
@knotty wagon I know Canada as a nation hasn't been a sovereign nation for as long as the US but what I was saying on that front is during the War of 1812 the US had only been a sovereign nation for 40 years and Canada was also part of the British Empire and supported by that exact Empire
in latin languages calling your mother a bitch or whore is pretty offensive @warm plinth
Oh
like super
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elaborate
im still shocked thyme is american
I like how that went
lol
im surprised you didnt know cat, he mentioned it before
i dunno even
that's odd
i picked a random country
same
i dunno why i picked denmark
i dont have dane brain
It's actually weird; idk how but I can usually have a good idea if someone is NA or EU just by them talking
Even Cosmo, who speaks english better than people I know
There are more pigs than people in Denmark
All you need to know
california is definitely far from danish
Chickens actually outnumber the world's population by greater than 3:1
at my old job germans use to email us all the time and apologize for their english all the while ahving better english than 90% of americans
it was funny
Or well, about 3:1 I guess
There are about 19 billion chickens in the world
Im a chicken
Nice
Probs.

hmm
:thyme:
i dont remember any ishtarrs in eq
Idk tbh
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Never forget
๐ญ
Khira โฅ 
Yeah, it sounds pretty close anyway
Ahhh okay
I played EQ but not the PC version. Good ole EverQuest Online Adventures on the PlayStation 2
Cosmo are you coming back in 9.0 with Thyme?
ill get to hear cosmo and thymes voices lol
Idm
10.0
rofl
I don't think I've heard anyone's voice except Cat's; do you guys not like me or something?
lol
Something tells me Thyme isnt much of a FPS guy
I'm not that guy that thinks I'm cool with everyone but you all hate me, am I?
Tbf
im not really, not anymore at least
I've been in voice with Thyme like 2 times
closest i play is warframe and apex
cosmo and thyme are my favourite bromance
Both times it wasnt that much talking from Thymes part
that reminds me i gotta get the battle pass
lewd
Idk, I have the worst memory in history
pretty sure it was you
catfriend secretly writing cosmo + thyme fan fic
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that will eventually become a novel
slash fiction*
then a movie
I think it was Krotos @junior ivy
no
i miss balsaq
krotos helped me personally with a bunch of things
but hes never done anyhting with my old shitty guilkd
it wasyou, i know it was
lol
@lusty grotto you should see a doctor if you lost it
Oh; idk like I said, I just have really bad memory. You're probably right.
rofl
Was I tanking?
i forget
Or on my monk maybe?
yea
i gotta feed my dog
I actually liked KJ aftger the changes
I just wanted to confirm if my NA/EU sense was working
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I actually was just about to make a Sense joke
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We need to put our rings together and summon Krotos
i tried to @ him
@prisma crane ๐
@prisma crane โค
I don't think he's playing anymore either, is he?
I'm the only loser that has stuck around.
Now I want to play cs
lol poor ghash
But everyone I play comp with is sleeping
Sweet, I have company
i did quit after ToS for a bit
I get forced to play prot by friends PepeHands
@prisma crane become full time sea of thieves player
Tbf I did take a break from pre-patch til like October of last year
But I'm super casual now. I still have a ton of 120s but I'm not doing the M+ every week on every toon shit
That I was doing in Legion
3h 30min left on mine
I can't see the word blueprints without being reminded of this game my brother told me about where a blueprint could take 40 real years to build
yikes
Eve?
Yeah
hildy just completed as well @timid jay ๐
I'm exaggerating a bit, but it was years plural
Like 4 of the top 10 highest selling virtual things of all time were in EVE btw
Tbh a 1-2 year craft wouldnt surprise me in eve
tfw u plan to play ur warrior more and guildies start inviting u more to bigger keys ๐ฆ
You know what the highest was?
Actually I lied; only one of the top 10 is Eve.
Revenant Super Carrier sold for $9,000
Nope
wtf
Club Neverdie was in Entropia; it sold for $635,000
Well thats more
A level 70 character
How much?
Entropia has the top 2 spots actually
Another place called the Crystal Palace Space Station sold for $330,000
i can still remember the entropia background music
A mace in Diablo 3 sold for $14,000. And a pink war dog (guessing a mount?) in Dota 2 sold for $38,000
i tried to sell them once but i got wind of the shitton of scamming people do for those
so they are sitting in my inventory
pink war dog? a courier
there are no mounts in dota2
I never played dota so I guessed :p
yeah couriers are minions the entire team control to deliver items and buy items
Ah
love you guys
beetlejuicing worked
i've been on SoT a bit, but mostly still fortnite lmao, also Div 2 is awesome
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krotos!
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!!
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oh hey
oh hey der
oh hi mark
lmao
i did naht
oh no
i didnt, i did naaaaht
you know i havent actually watched the james franco thing
lmao ive never seen t hat movie but i know that stuff cause my best friends bf is so SOOO obsessed with it
i haven't either
i only know it through pewdiepie lol
i know the book is good, but the movie didn't really itnerest me
What movie?
The room
i heard it was good
Its borderline fun because its so bad
Some scenes aren't bad enough to be fun
Just sad
oh sorry im talking about the james franco one, but yeah the room is a cult classic
yea like watching trainwrecks
i've seen the room, but the disaster artist was a hard pass
Google says it had a budget of $6 million and it only made $1,800 at the box office ๐
i wanan see
i heard that was great too
got it on my list
ahhh now i need to go
im watching jack ryan now
after im done with that, ill go for love death and robots
oh i wanna see brightburn
saw true detective s3.... groan
i heard its hard to live up to S1
but i think i have other plans thatr i dont wanna do
they tried to make an s1 thing with that season but it just ended up being worse than s2 imo
oof
oh that's the new jordan peele movie
the acting is great though
yeh
oh yea i hear that looks pretty good
so i bet "us" will be good too
just the direction they took it in was kinda meh
Tfw I barely watch movies/series
lol
honestly i havent seen the first peele one
"get out" became an instant favourite for me
ive heard its amazing
it is so good
like everything is so unexpected and the creepy atmosphere i dunno how to explain
watching it*
lol, you'd know Mr Swe
Its like cigarettes on sterioids
ohh, yea
its nice
Snus?
Yes
Cant say I'm a fan
we need an old school washed up warrior discord
I thought this was it?
For sure washed up
I can't claim old school; I didn't really play warrior at all until Legion
See, I'm not alone
well ive played prot since vanilla but... i only came into discord in legion
I didnt play warrior till bfa as a main :)))))))
yikes
Was Discord a thing in WoD?
yes
I left like 3 months in to WoD, came back and there was WCL, Discord, Simcraft
And I was like wtf
well w/e "old school" then, lol, Legion bois (and girls)
well simcraft was around for far longer than that
Well, Raidbots then
oh yeah
Anyone remember RAWR
I didn't know about SimCraft before then though XD
Now that was good shit
Sounds familiar; what was it?
wasnt that the druid thing?
Kinda like AMR but way back in TBC/Wotlk
monkaS
oh nvm druid was twig
Ah
I was too young to give a shit about being a good player back then.
I do have a meter screenshot from Trial of the Crusader on my balance druid though
Which I never played as balance; I just did it for fun
yeah same
Same, but I had 800 million questions like I do now, and they were not friendly to that shit
I never posted, just read
I'm sure I posted a couple of times, but typically you'd just get flamed if they didn't deem your question worthy
I was lurking in here for a long time as well
Or you'd get dinged with an infraction by one of their overbearing mods
my first message here was about the mage tower challenge
i lurked a bit before that
YOu remember that? lol
mine were about the hidden appearance, bakc in a channel that is now deleted
Actually deleted or in that massive archive tab?
deleted
pog
I literally had no freaking idea what I was doing on that character. I was just pressing buttons
Seems to be working
lol
Apparently I was 4.4k GS, but I don't remember if that was good or bad
didn't play back then ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I liked the idea on paper
i kinda liked that
highely indecisive which trinkets to run... been using rage + vial to have 1 ready for every avatar but im thinking bout using rezans over vial
Cant say it worked out well in practice
I'd use Rezan's+Rage or Rezan's+Vial
yeah
Yeah I think so? Sounds right
The titan dude
I didn't raid in Pandaria at all though
yeh
I was actually the most casual person ever from like Cata up to Legion
I played hardcore up until toward the end of WotLK though
I didnt play mop at all
started in mop, but very casual
I talk in this server way too much ๐ฌ
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Just ran a search for before July 1st 2018 and I still have 15,162 results ๐
prob higher total than me then
lul
My first post in #protection was 6/4/17 asking if my ember and shard were shit ๐
Oh no lfr
Sexy proc
@strong forum 415 engine 415 eye
ye im thinking same
obv
If it's obvious then why ask
but the 100% trinket uptime on Avatar is juicy
the ilvl thing is obv but trinket choice is so fucking hard since theres no clear winner
cuz ilvl doesnt apply there
There are 2 clear winners
ilevel isn't king for trinkets; there is wiggle room there.
@oblique garnet have you been trying the keys at all? i feel bad for making fun of that guy who said atal'dazar would be hard
The hard choice is between 410 jes, and 415 eye
Take Jes if you need a defensive trinket
jes is out of the question tbh, just there but it there to flex tbh
it's disgusting dude
Use jes if you need a defensive trinket, or a prism (of any ilvl)
the shieldbearers hit me for 100k through block lmao
exactly
but eye / engine gonna be good
You should try to set up saurid leaps in raging range
yeah its ridiculous
Just for lulz
OOF
the baby raptors outdps'd us
18
Oh, okay
@chrome falcon ive basically been trying to think of an comp that can clear atal
you need darkness
well it has to start with prot warrior rdruid
little bit more strength is not that big
and little bit of shield is not that big
bhut it helps
@oblique garnet i think you need a windwalker. if the shieldbearers get a shield off then you're going to die to the instane fort mob damage
@lusty grotto You actually answered some of my first questions in here
its like 3k, and defensive trinkets are meh anyway
so you desperately want that leg sweep and RoP
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then you probably want a rogue for rogue stuff? maybe?
and then idk you might want a warlock for healthstone but that's not great for the big dick pulls
Go to proving grounds
PSHT WARLOCKS
why no dh
GARRISON
and get a healthstone
darkness... aoe stun
If you RoP a person who then gets leaped by saurids, does it deflect them before they do damage or do they still hit? Purely to satisfy my curiosity