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primal crypt
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Heat of the moment type of deal

opal peak
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lol

primal crypt
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No trees left

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It was just an unfortunate circumstance

sick sentinel
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typhoon

tidal scarab
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That sounds a lot like bad rng or your ranged being too close to the adds. Did 21 FH, didn't get harpooned once

primal crypt
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My boomkin cheesed me

rapid trench
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anyways currently real boss is 22 FH how do dps not die to azerite shot if the healer misses a bird poo

primal crypt
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He was standing in melee

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@rapid trench gotta use the new los strat

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On the broken boat

opal peak
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wha

rapid trench
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I havent found the spot yet

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😦

tidal scarab
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Do tell

primal crypt
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Your melee can stack the entire time

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And los the azerite shot

opal peak
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wtf

primal crypt
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On the piece of wood

rapid trench
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iIve tried a few different ones but couldnt figure out actually LoS

opal peak
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that's Pog

tidal scarab
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You got any clips of that?

primal crypt
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But, it still has a chance for you to get pooped on

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So you move out until poop is gone

opal peak
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that sounds

primal crypt
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Check nerfclap recent FH

opal peak
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real sketch

rapid trench
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ya but thats long enough for ppl to die

primal crypt
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they do it over and over

opal peak
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but i guess if ur at point of 1 shots anyway

primal crypt
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Yeah

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It's either sort of live or 100% die

oblique garnet
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yamo thats not good strat

primal crypt
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I dont do it lol, my rogues arent getting one shot yet

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They live with 10% kek

rapid trench
crisp pecan
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wait, 3rd boss on ML is doing any meele dmg at all?

primal crypt
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@crisp pecan 3rd and 4th boss

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No melee

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4th boss adds will hit you though

crisp pecan
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what

rapid trench
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nvm they reset, I linked too early

crisp pecan
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i always used SB when bich started to hit

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on 3rd

primal crypt
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Yup, just use rage on ip

crisp pecan
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that is gamechanger

primal crypt
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And reflect chemical dot

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On 3rd boss

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It will target the two closest players

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So if you dont have reflect up, let other two take it

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One can get cleansed and other can, cloak or do whatever

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Defensive if need be

crisp pecan
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ineed to have tracker for this chemical burn

primal crypt
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Little wigs

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Is good

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Timer is a little off, so reflect about 2 sec prior to timer

tidal scarab
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Wait, the green shit never goes out the arena so rogues are always safe

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That actually looks decent comparing to how you explained it

oblique garnet
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@rapid trench the last 2 bosses if you go never surrender you lose too much value on the heal of last stand which outweighs the never surrender since you basically have to be dying all the time for it to be worth

heavy chasm
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The heal heals regardless of bolster. Or are you meaning in terms of uses of the heal with the cd reduction @late ?

primal crypt
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@tidal scarab rogs are safe, but you as the tank could get pooped on

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And have to move out

tidal scarab
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Yeah but it's not going to kill you

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as a tank

oblique garnet
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last stand with bolster is 1 min cd

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without not so much

primal crypt
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Of course not

oblique garnet
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its also worth nothing that both glickz and nerf have more than 10% base leech

primal crypt
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But when you move out, rogs now have to position out of los, unless you dont want them to dps lol

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Yeah, they have that insane leech

heavy chasm
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I tend to run never surrender in lode on fortified weeks. Maybe my healers just aren't strong enough

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But it did alleviate a lot of pressure doing so

rapid trench
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fine not speccing out of the love of my life bolster

primal crypt
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Never not bolster

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Too gucci

opal peak
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wait

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never surrender on fort weeks?

heavy chasm
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Just motherlode

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I'm a pleb, but it did work.

opal peak
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i know there's a lot of non-physical damage from trash but

oblique garnet
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@primal crypt also my setup atm on TR is Sea-Brawlers Helm, Sinister Glad Shoulders, Desert Guardian Chest

primal crypt
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Yeah, I barely got any TR time

opal peak
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im scared of ML this week 😦

rapid trench
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Id say its pretty "easy" as far as motherlode weeks go

opal peak
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we talking the same week?

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i mean the 1 that starts in like an hr

primal crypt
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Just dont bolster the robots

rapid trench
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ah no we dont

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πŸ˜„

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I have another day left^^

primal crypt
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Eu!

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Bolster skittish

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People are dying this week

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100%

opal peak
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well obvi that's the goal but u want like all the robots

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and tanking trash that long to kill robots first

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sounds terrible

rapid trench
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yea but at least you actually get to tank fulltime again and have to kite less

sick sentinel
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well since we are not going to mdi

rapid trench
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until the robot has 10 stacks of bolster

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πŸ˜„

sick sentinel
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we are only playing in tyrr weeks

opal peak
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lol

primal crypt
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@sick sentinel you on TR?

sick sentinel
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nah

oblique garnet
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@primal crypt Unstable flames has 63% uptime lmao

opal peak
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i mean my current plan is to use this week to focus on my warrior more instead of pushing on monk

primal crypt
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wait what?

opal peak
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but

sick sentinel
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I didn't know you needed to apply

primal crypt
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63%

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Wtf

oblique garnet
rapid trench
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I swapped from monk to warr for S2 @opal peak

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good choice πŸ˜ƒ

primal crypt
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Jesus

opal peak
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monk is my main for raid since i heal - it's also nice and ez bc isb and relax

rapid trench
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yea but you do nothing else

opal peak
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but im not a good warrior

rapid trench
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its not very rewarding

opal peak
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i die

oblique garnet
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you gotta master the art of clapping

opal peak
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tru

oblique garnet
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also yamo you cant get 2x Pieces with BoM + UF and 3x DC

opal peak
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i need better feel so i don't tunnel and ignore defensives 4head

heavy chasm
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I feel like coming fro a monk to any other tank especially a warriorn would be an adjustment to say the least.

brisk ferry
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it actually wasn't bad, way more engaging

heavy chasm
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Lots of tools as a warrior, but monk can basically tunnel for days cuz iron brew

opal peak
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well that's the point, it's way more engaging so its a lot of what ur not used to

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so more to get used to

primal crypt
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@oblique garnet yup, back on now

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More playing around

rapid trench
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warrior is a lot stronger than monk

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that helps

oblique garnet
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Warrior rn is ridiculously strong

opal peak
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ya i just need to get better at not wasting SB by stacking with LS -doesn't happen often anymore but still needs work - and not using up rage right b4 i need it for SB

rapid trench
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using the weakaura that combines both blocks into 1

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helped me alot iniitally

opal peak
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it's not me thinking it's different - part of it is my normal feel for just pressing isb every so often

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another part is me being dumb and getting smacked and ignoring the fact that I have LS up and thinking "shit i need SB"

next ingot
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Hello guys, can someone tell me what would be the best passif from the loas for war prot ?

crisp fractal
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We finaly startet mythic progress yesterday and were able to kill Jadefire Masters very quickly. Grong was next an we were able to get him to 13%. Quick question for you guys, what would you prefere. BDK tanking Grong and me taking the throws (with spellreflect) or the other way arround? Our healers couldn`t decide what they prefer.

brisk ferry
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how do u start with Jadefire?

oblique garnet
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alliance

brisk ferry
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ah

oblique garnet
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@crisp fractal have the dk take the throws

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they can ams

unborn island
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@opal peak I made a big red text WA which says 'Last Stand Up DO NOT BLOCK'

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It helped

daring marlin
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We can SR it every time though

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so gud

opal peak
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kimbul/bob or gonk if u want speed - think kimbul was mentioned to do more dps but more testing might be needed to confirm - based off very quick discord search for zandalari @next ingot

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ya i was thinking of that @unborn island

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but i stare at my bars more than i should so i prob wouldnt see that

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monkaS

next ingot
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thanks @opal peak

opal peak
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u can search this discord for some more discusions of it to get a better idea

rapid trench
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of have a sound play whenever you have LS up

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x)

austere oar
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take the throws as warrior, SR for every one of it and you can leap back in before the fear hits

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DK is gonna lose too much time coming back

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@next ingot Bwonsamdi is actually the best one for ST dps, Paku if you plan on m+ mainly

opal peak
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ya it's more just more comfortable with warrior - i need to play it more and not just say "fuck it" and swapping to my monk when i have a few bad runs

austere oar
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Kimbul is around half the damage done of Bwonsamdi

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may need a buff

next ingot
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yea im not playing war for raid, mostly MM+

unborn island
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@opal peak I have the same issue, I just made it so big i couldn't possibly miss it πŸ˜ƒ

sick sentinel
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paku

primal crypt
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little numbers test through logs, if you wanna look at them

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1 UF 2 OP - Jaina Trinket

oblique garnet
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vampiric speed is massive if you can get 2

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12.3% of overall healing

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@primal crypt i feel kinda bad we have maybe gimped ourselves by giving away the best stats etc πŸ€”

primal crypt
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Lmao

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Yolo

oblique garnet
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just gotta prove that we are superior warriors LUL

astral crystal
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how is that gimping yourselves πŸ€”

primal crypt
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Jaina trinket almost as much dmg as my shield slam

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More dmg than revenge at 64 casts lmao

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This shit is unreal

prisma echo
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Mates trying to find same topic, but didnt succed. WA for spell reflect is crashing every time some spell is to reflect. Am i only one with this problem?

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im talking about WA in guides-resources-faq

primal crypt
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@prisma echo might have to speak with Marok

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He made the WA

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I know he was helping someone a couple days ago with some crashing issues

narrow abyss
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I think it needs some lib Addon or something

prisma echo
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@primal crypt thank you very much ill reach @fierce juniper !

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maybe i need to read all description on wagio πŸ˜ƒ

silver tangle
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is there any pawn for tanks? or is pawn like sims,only for dmg?

ionic fern
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You can sim yourself as Prot as well to get stat weights according to your current gear @silver tangle

silver tangle
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but not for survival?

rigid stream
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Who needs survival

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That’s what the healer is for

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πŸ˜ƒ

ionic fern
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No, you can't sim for survival - there are too many variables for that.
The general idea for survival is: ilvl->haste-> w/e.

silver tangle
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i see :D

ionic fern
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Most secondaries are fairly close together so if the item is higher than what you already have then use that regardless of stats (except rings/trinkets).

daring marlin
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@primal crypt damage on a dummy like that will make everchill look better than it actually is in practice since you have to stack it to max again every pull

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Not that it isn’t good, but you won’t be having 5 min trash packs with most of that time it being stacked at 10.

primal crypt
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I remember it being just as good when I ran my normal version

silver tangle
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maybe u can help me

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what to wear for m+

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dmg and survival wise

primal crypt
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Kind of fell off once I started geting other trinkets, but man, it does so much dmg

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Youre right though

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Dummy dmg should be taken with a grain of salt

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Its really nice to see though

stable flame
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does jainas trinket help w/ skittish?

primal crypt
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I was hoping for more :(

brisk ferry
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the only thing taht helps with skittish is taunting and doing dmg

opal peak
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Just clap harder

ionic fern
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In general you want as many BoM traits as you can @silver tangle while maintaining atleast one DC.

silver tangle
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ok πŸ˜„

primal crypt
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Ugh, cant decide on whether moment of glory is worth it or not

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Im thinking it's more hp with 2 additional seconds is better than a small bubble for myself

narrow abyss
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When the other option is self@reliance

austere oar
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^

narrow abyss
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Moment of glory looks really good

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πŸ˜‚

austere oar
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i have this exact piece

primal crypt
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It's against resounding protection

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And 16k really isnt much

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It helps, but

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A stronger external may be better

brisk ferry
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self reliance is a fucking joke

primal crypt
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Especially for speed running keys

narrow abyss
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And my BDK has all the gemhides and vampiric speeds

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It’s depressing

primal crypt
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We're pushing new boundaries

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:)

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Gemhide and vampiric speed is really good for bdk

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They need the armor lul

narrow abyss
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Ya

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Oh yea

oblique garnet
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@primal crypt New set has entered the competition

primal crypt
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@oblique garnet do tell

heavy chasm
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Better then bulwark of masses or bury hatchet imo

oblique garnet
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haste/crit

primal crypt
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Crit heavy?

oblique garnet
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yes

primal crypt
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What we lookin like

heavy chasm
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Ravager ....?

primal crypt
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Sorry, @heavy chasmthis is TR

heavy chasm
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For dat parry lel

oblique garnet
primal crypt
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Tournament realm

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Good god

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Lmao

oblique garnet
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it claps bit lower

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but

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it crits

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alot

heavy chasm
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Holy...

primal crypt
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How many UF?

oblique garnet
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1

primal crypt
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Dont think we need more than 1

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Yeah, that's significant

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Whew

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But the trade off is the dmg taken

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We gonna have to try both sets in freehold

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See how it holds up

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Especially at the pace we'll be pulling

oblique garnet
primal crypt
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Lmao wtf

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Did you just go to fh?

oblique garnet
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y

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same pulls

primal crypt
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Ahahahaha

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Any issues in dmg taken?

oblique garnet
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not really no

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you get so many parries that you pretty much have to spend all your rage on IP

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XD

primal crypt
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Lmao

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Truly 50%party

oblique garnet
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only 30% parry

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unlucky

oak ice
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How does DI dwarf racial scale on necrotic 'dispell'? Is it scaling per stack or per spell/aura?

primal crypt
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Is thre any reason to use the loa set back/ring

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@oblique garnet

oblique garnet
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no they dont work in kr or atal anymore

primal crypt
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Damn

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Kk

oblique garnet
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thing is tho

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the crit build also did 4k more dps πŸ€”

opal peak
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To make sure I’m not dumb

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Crit was left pic right ?

oblique garnet
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yes

ionic fern
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@oak ice it counts as ONE dispell.

oblique garnet
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thats damage taken

oak ice
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So per spell, ty!

primal crypt
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Crit is also more readily available

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In high quantities

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Im swapping everything right now

oblique garnet
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i didnt also have everchill anchor on that one

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i think if you go anchor + gore you get the best results

primal crypt
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That's what I was thinking

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Nothing will beat that combo

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Not even on use

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1.5m is too awkward

oblique garnet
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i did not excect

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it to be that disgusting

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both the anchor and crit

primal crypt
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Swap a couple more pieces late

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There are a couple crit/vers

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Where crit is 100+

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Im still working so im doing it slowly

rough egret
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late what azerite traits are you runing? how many bom?

oblique garnet
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3xBoM 3x DC

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same as on live

primal crypt
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3bom 3dc is best set up

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At least for time trials

rough egret
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dont have pieces 😦

opal peak
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I thought 3x dc wasn’t that huge

oblique garnet
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its just for damage

primal crypt
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Its the highest dmg increase

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Purely dmg

ionic fern
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AoE DPS wise it's one of the best things you can do.

opal peak
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Oh I thought the dps increase wasn’t that big but I guess it was more not big enough to beat the dps/defensive value of other traits

primal crypt
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Mind you, late and I are speaking strictly for the MDI tournament realm right now

opal peak
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Ya ik

oblique garnet
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im also ridiculously geared so i dont really need defensives on live either

analog swift
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Cyclone strike: reflected

Boss health: low

primal crypt
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Just saying for other people who might be reading our banter

rough egret
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yesterday I tryied to reflect the cyclones

ionic fern
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The DPS increase after the 1st one isn't HUGE but it's still a DPS increase on your hardest hitting AoE ability..most other DPS traits are more ST focused like BfI etc.

opal peak
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Fair

rough egret
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in 17

opal peak
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That makes sense

rough egret
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not successful πŸ˜„

primal crypt
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@rough egret were you the one targetted?

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Cant reflect your own

oblique garnet
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jolt go off?

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been there

primal crypt
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Or that

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Lol

rough egret
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maybe yes

primal crypt
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Guess who missed the kick? My wife lmao

oblique garnet
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oof

ionic fern
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It's sometimes weird tho.

primal crypt
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Whew

oblique garnet
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you got hit by them?

primal crypt
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2 of them

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By the looks of it

opal peak
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So y 2 proc trinkets instead of 2 on use?

ionic fern
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Some of them reflected and others went through..still not sure why.

oblique garnet
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probably 2 from the sides which did not hit you at the same time

primal crypt
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Yeah. That dumb cone effect

oblique garnet
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i mean they still do damage even if you reflect them

primal crypt
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Weird positioning

cobalt trellis
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whats UF again?

oblique garnet
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unstable flames

ionic fern
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Unstable Flames

cobalt trellis
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oh nvm

primal crypt
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Flames of the unstable

cobalt trellis
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was thinking about the fury trait and got confused

daring marlin
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I love UF.

primal crypt
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Damn @oblique garnet wont be able to do the build I want on live, so much high ilvl pvp gear

oblique garnet
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hm?

primal crypt
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Lol, would require glad rating

sick sentinel
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just pvp dude

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you do keys on tyrr weeks

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you do pvp on fort weeks

primal crypt
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Lmao

sick sentinel
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because who likes to play mplus during fort anyway

primal crypt
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I flail around in pvp

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Until I hit cap

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Then i log off and cry

sick sentinel
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you can just pray

ionic fern
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I play DPS on fortified weeks.

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πŸ˜‚

sick sentinel
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from the cache

primal crypt
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πŸ˜‚

rough egret
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On live, is it worth talking 400 azerite pieces with bom/DC over 415 without them?

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Dps wisely

sick sentinel
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no

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wait

oblique garnet
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@primal crypt only 1 piece is from pvp

sick sentinel
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it has neither BoM or DC?

rough egret
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I mean

oblique garnet
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you can get all others from pve

sick sentinel
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so late

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should I go for vers

oblique garnet
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and even that can be replaced

sick sentinel
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for deeps?

rough egret
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To get to that point having 3xbom

primal crypt
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Crit

oblique garnet
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crit kage

primal crypt
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Way deep crit

oblique garnet
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phat crit

sick sentinel
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oh

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fuck yes

primal crypt
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He's even taking less dmg lmao

sick sentinel
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that's what I am doing already

primal crypt
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Parry all the things

sick sentinel
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I'm haste/crit lul

primal crypt
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Yup

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All the crit

oblique garnet
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@primal crypt In high physical dungeons crit/haste in shrine ml etc haste/vers

sick sentinel
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that is with 5 itf stacks?

primal crypt
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Yup

oblique garnet
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yes

primal crypt
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Stupid spell dungeons

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Super yikes

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I have my 17% vers set ready

sick sentinel
primal crypt
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Needs more crit

oblique garnet
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i have my 2 sets ready

primal crypt
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xD

rough egret
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You are not dropin i lvl on items to get to those stats ye?

primal crypt
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@rough egret we're on the tournament realm

sick sentinel
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I am just equipping max ilvl

oblique garnet
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but kage is on live

primal crypt
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^

sick sentinel
ionic fern
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DO IT

sick sentinel
primal crypt
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@sick sentinel it has a socket

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(@>+*+ lald

sick sentinel
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keep in mind, I have eng helm (DC+ gismo) and a CR+BoM chest

carmine ibex
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What trinkets are you guys using on TR?

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Gore + Anchor?

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Merketha's counts for stacking Anchor right?

torn gust
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How good is Gismo tho?

sick sentinel
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gismo is really good

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merektha is straight garbage

torn gust
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Only for prot or also fury? Cuz i tried simming, simmed way less

mint adder
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Why do people like anchor so much?

sick sentinel
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it's super garbage

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people like anchor because it does a lot of damage

mint adder
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How much is a lot of damage

torn gust
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So like next week anchor cuz fortified is good?

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But is it better than a rezans or a socket block or a 425 opulence tho

sick sentinel
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are you saying next week anchor will be good?

torn gust
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Idk fortified so a huge uptime on a ton of addds

sick sentinel
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yeah good point too

torn gust
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If any week would be the way to go it has to be fortified righgt

mint adder
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I don’t like anchor at all, I go for strength trinkets

sick sentinel
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thought this week it was also ok to help kite a bit

mint adder
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Wish i had a fat block then I’d use that

late cedar
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What's block? Opu?

torn gust
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i have 410 socket block, 410 rezans, 425 opulence and 405 jaina, I never used jaina yet as prot

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Block is WM trinket

opal peak
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I need to replace my 395 howler 😦

late cedar
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Ohh the gore

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Gotcha

mint adder
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Butcher’s block

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I’d run 425 opulence and 410 block

rigid stream
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I got lucky with 405 block and 410 prism

slow kiln
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Funny to log in and see this convo. I just Rezans (400) and was wondering if it should replace Anchor (405) in M+

lime basalt
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is there any haste cap? making my warr on tourney realm and 45% haste seems like a lot

late cedar
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Block over rezan? Max clap?

torn gust
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I take rezan over block tbh

mint adder
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Max clap

torn gust
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Most of the time i take block and rezan and skip my 425 opulence

mint adder
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The higher keys you do the more important parry becomes

torn gust
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max clap fuck defensive p

late cedar
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I have same trinks as you I usually opu rezan but I wanna go big claps

torn gust
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yh i change between em, but like double offensive more tbh

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on ML tho i take the opu

mint adder
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I use 415 alchemy trinket and 410 vial for massive claps

torn gust
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just cuz third boss hurts like a bitch

late cedar
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Ya shes a rough a lover

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Also just fuk ml tbh

torn gust
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tanked it on a 19, 26K damage intake per second

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even with reflecting the dot once every cycle

austere oar
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Did they nerf Grong's trinket on prot warriors specifically ?

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cuz it's simming a shitload of dmg on other tanks on Bloodmallet

ionic fern
#

St or aoe?

austere oar
#

ST patchwerk

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like 1330 dps 415i

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on prot pal

sturdy sable
#

I think its because warriors use all of the available gcds where as the other strength tanks have downtime in their rotation

daring marlin
#

@austere oar It’s simming with seraphim

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I’m assuming seraphim bumps the damage of it since it’s a secondary stat steroid

austere oar
#

yeah maybe a rotation problem

grand drum
#

what loot spec should i be for weeklychest?

austere oar
#

prot

lilac rock
#

what stats do you guys prefer in m+?

sick sentinel
#

Haste/crit

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Unless I was HM/KT then just vers

sand kettle
#

Is vers bad normally? Also is this just in an M+ setting?

sick sentinel
#

Vers isn't bad, just lower on the list compared to the other 4

old zephyr
#

crit is not reliable enough for raid

sick sentinel
#

In m+/raiding the only real stat that doesn't work is crit

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Like 4x said

sand kettle
#

Okay, thanks

warped thorn
#

blood siphon / azerite globs / crystallize carapace which to pick?

sick sentinel
#

bs

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Bs or carapace

old zephyr
#

BS

warped thorn
#

thx

old zephyr
#

CC would provide best DPS when you have lots of people hitting you and you get hit for 10% of your life

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basically when you're dead

daring marlin
#

crit not working

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4head

sick sentinel
#

Not in raid it doesn't

daring marlin
#

You said m+\raid

sick sentinel
#

vers is what you want in raids after haste

#

Can't Parry a boss ability

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In raids

#

???

old zephyr
#

you cna

sick sentinel
#

U cant

old zephyr
#

and when it happens it's great

sick sentinel
#

I've tried

#

you could parry essence sear

old zephyr
#

mytrax was parryable

sick sentinel
#

you can parry many boss abilities

modern brook
#

why are we discussing 2ndaries past more?

daring marlin
#

He’s memeing per usual

sick sentinel
#

I'm not actually

warped thorn
#

if i have 400 shoulder/chest which is better buy at 415 vendor?

sick sentinel
#

U literally cant

modern brook
#

@warped thorn do you m raid?

sick sentinel
#

In uldir maybe

daring marlin
#

coulda fooled me, claiming crit doesn’t work in m+

warped thorn
#

no heroic

daring marlin
#

gigalul

modern brook
#

🀷 then it depends on the peices

sick sentinel
#

But in BoD, u can't Parry a move like h could in m+

modern brook
#

otherwise roll shoulders and just get 415 chest from m cotl

warped thorn
#

ok thx

sand kettle
#

Is there a list of parry-able M+ abilities? The one I know off the top of my head is the third KR boss that charges

sick sentinel
#

@daring marlin maybe I worded it wrong but doesn't changr what I mean by crit not parrying a boss attack like u could in m+

cursive dune
#

Hey guys! I want to race change my warrior and I am between dark iron and Light forged. I am currently playing as Human what do you guys suggest?

primal crypt
modern brook
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@sand kettle nothing exaustive to my knowledge

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@cursive dune did; or NE if tofu's here

sick sentinel
#

Loo

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lightforged to pad on meters

modern brook
#

Light forged also look better in plate, imo

sand kettle
#

DID is my dream race lol, but im horde

sick sentinel
#

DID to look cool and give 0 fucks about necrotic or bleeds

modern brook
#

DID racial synergize well with warriors biggest weak point, being physical dots

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so does regular dwarf but they're not spicy so fuck em

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Light forged draenai i think sim the highest in ST, and are cuter

old zephyr
#

LfD is best race

modern brook
#

Faction change is only 18.12USD and gives u better options

cursive dune
#

And the New helm upgrade is looking good

old zephyr
#

the AoE on LfD is A.MA.ZING

austere oar
#

go horde or go home

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πŸ‘€

sand kettle
#

Faction changing doesnt help when all my friends and raid group are horde

modern brook
#

Pro Tip

faint horizon
#

DID feels so good on necrotic weeks. I think they actually look better in plate gear than LFD, but that’s definitely subjective.

modern brook
#

If u ever join a battle ground and your team is fucking stupid as shit

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Wait wrong chat nvm

#

sorry fam

cursive dune
#

Did it its then

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Ty guys

modern brook
#

@faint horizon I'll argue

sand kettle
#

Now I wanna hear the pro tip...

modern brook
#

LFD are better looking objectively

austere oar
#

just leave the bg

faint horizon
#

I like beards.

vocal skiff
#

Fuck, I got yet another shield from the chest

knotty wagon
#

What can I macro Vial into

mint adder
#

Avatar

austere oar
#

obv

modern brook
#

u shouldnt macro vial

knotty wagon
#

I mean

modern brook
#

unless its macro'd to rotational buttons

knotty wagon
#

I'll take it at shit efficiency

#

😦

#

I dont like on use trinket

mint adder
#

You should only use vial with avatar lol

modern brook
#

then use a different trinket 🀷

knotty wagon
#

I mean

#

365 trinket

#

or 410 vial

modern brook
#

If you're not going to use vial on CD its value is not that of a 410 trinket

mint adder
#

Vial is super strong

#

Only to buff avatar

grand drum
#

vial is good during avatar

knotty wagon
#

I mean

#

Vial has a 1.5minute CD

mint adder
#

It’s worthless if you’re buffing outside avatar

knotty wagon
#

avatar has a 1.5 minute CD that is super reduced

mint adder
#

Yeah you use with every other avatar

modern brook
#

avatar is ~50-60 depending on how shitty you are at rage management

mint adder
#

More like 45 seconds

#

So every other

knotty wagon
#

im worried that vial

#

will end up getting fucked

#

if i macro it

#

and miss a use

modern brook
#

It will

knotty wagon
#

so it goes use, rip, rip, use

mint adder
#

Then don’t macro it and just use it on avatar

knotty wagon
#

I dont like on use trinkets

#

its too hard

mint adder
#

Lol

#

Yikes

knotty wagon
#

Why yikes.

mint adder
#

One use trinkets are basically just another CD

vocal skiff
#

gambled for a 415 shoulder

#

it worked

#

BoM and Iron Fortress

mint adder
#

And they’re reliable when you want them

knotty wagon
#

Vampiric speed vs resounding protection?

mint adder
#

Vamp

vocal skiff
#

2 BoM, 2 Iron Fortress, 1 DC and 1 blood sport

#

not bad

knotty wagon
#

ty

weary nacelle
#

I attend to agree here Mid, but the way we use them makes them pretty much automatic/passive in a way. So it's another cd which could've been a passive 'on equip' effect anyway. πŸ˜„

knotty wagon
#

Crystaline Carapace vs Blood siphon?

weary nacelle
#

We use them so identical every time, so it just becomes a muscle memory and it doesn't really play out as a separate action, just an additional annoying button to use (unless its macroed)

knotty wagon
#

Carapace seems neat for defensive purposes, but leech is enticing

modern brook
sick sentinel
#

Do not go vamp speed @knotty wagon if u aren't getting a lot of them kills

mint adder
#

Blood sport is hot. I mean, fair but the philosophy for doing high damage in keys is to stack as many cd’s as you can on top of each other

knotty wagon
#

@sick sentinel is it on killing blow

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it literally says, an enemy i harmed

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dies

modern brook
#

You only go vamp speed if you're doing 10+ keys

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otherwise its a dead trait

sick sentinel
#

Unless its been having issues I don't get it to proc but on kills I get

knotty wagon
#

I mean i ran a +14 last week

sick sentinel
#

But also RP is a much better trait by miles

modern brook
#

^

sick sentinel
#

That heal from vamp and the speed is overall worthless when we have leap and charges

knotty wagon
#

Carapace vs Blood siphon

#

thoughts?

sick sentinel
#

Either is fine

#

One is more dps oriented vs the other

mint adder
#

Blood siphon for myth plus

modern brook
#

Carapace is IF lite

weary nacelle
#

I would hit carapace to be honest. For the leech to have impact it must be as least a good amount. (like having leech on your other gear as well) But hey I might be wrong.

hollow thorn
#

Carapace is pog

modern brook
#

IF is one of our better traits

primal crypt
#

Carapace is definitely pog

#

Over siphon

hollow thorn
#

it even does dmg

modern brook
#

@primal crypt vial on cd or save for avatars

hollow thorn
#

not much

mint adder
#

Leech too good

primal crypt
#

@modern brook on cd

hollow thorn
#

Leech is overrated

modern brook
#

ty

hollow thorn
#

only good for healers tbf

primal crypt
#

UNLESS

mint adder
#

Yikes

primal crypt
#

You have 700+ static haste

modern brook
#

interesting stat

summer wigeon
#

third BoM or second DC

primal crypt
#

Static leech

#

Jesus

#

My bad lol

vocal skiff
#

3rd BoM

modern brook
#

Oh nvm less interesting stat

sick sentinel
#

Third bom @summer wigeon

summer wigeon
#

does double IF double the block to 800?

hollow thorn
#

3rd BoM

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Yes

modern brook
#

not exactly a double but it stacks

hollow thorn
#

it stacks

knotty wagon
#

So i got several different answers about vamp speed

modern brook
#

multiple traits have Diminishing returns

hollow thorn
#

Vamp speed is pog for M+

modern brook
#

1x vamp speed is worth having in 10+ keys

#

outside of that its pretty useless

#

rather, inconsistent.

summer wigeon
#

also, finally necro week is over

knotty wagon
#

necro week is ezpz tho

summer wigeon
#

only with competent people

hollow thorn
#

Necro isnt over in EU yet myt dude

summer wigeon
#

my war is my alt, so his io is only like 900 right now

stoic pilot
#

so you're doing keys low enough that you should clap the mobs before the stacks even get high

knotty wagon
#

why did i have to get a 410 vial

#

thats like the ONE thing i didnt want

hollow thorn
#

Can you give it to me?

knotty wagon
#

I have this 385 badge i almost prefer to use

hollow thorn
#

its 100% not worth it

#

Vial is pog for Prot

knotty wagon
#

The issue is

#

its on use

#

and I just macro that shit

hollow thorn
#

insane avatar dmg

knotty wagon
#

If it actually lines up

opal peak
#

Wait...

hollow thorn
#

There is no way the 385 badge is better

knotty wagon
#

Yeah its not better

#

😦

opal peak
#

Did I just read that I’m failing by macroing my vial to avatar and forgetting about it @primal crypt 😳

modern brook
#

You're losing casts

knotty wagon
#

Can I actually do that?

#

because i'd be losing casts

#

but like

modern brook
#

U can do whatever you want man

knotty wagon
#

it'd be useful?

#

How much of a loss

modern brook
#

depends on fight length

knotty wagon
#

Do you think i'd experience

#

I dont raid

modern brook
#

rage management

knotty wagon
#

I just do keys

modern brook
#

etc

#

Depends on pull pattern, boss length, etc

sick sentinel
#

Here's the real question, how many keybinds do/don't u have?

modern brook
#

I mean

knotty wagon
#

I have no available keybind

#

other than fishing

modern brook
#

You macro it and use it every other ish avatar

knotty wagon
#

but like fishing keybind > trinket

modern brook
#

until you miss it by 3 seconds and burn that for 45-60 seconds

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or u dont macro it

sick sentinel
#

So u have a lot of dead keybinds probably

modern brook
#

and use it every other avatar

#

period

keen river
#

I think someone mentioned this before but how are people liking Blood Rite? I have the choice of that or Bloodsport, doing mainly 15+ keys

sick sentinel
#

BS

modern brook
#

BS

hollow thorn
#

Blood Rite is good in some dungeons, bloodsport is more safe

keen river
#

yeah that's what I figured, thanks

west kayak
#

I have a chestpiece that has BS and BR. I use BR for the haste, uptime is around 40%.

primal crypt
#

@opal peak yup

opal peak
#

😩

primal crypt
#

Trinkets need to be popped as much as possible

#

Every second you wait you're losing value

knotty wagon
#

I get that

#

I just need to know how much value

primal crypt
#

If avatar is like 2-3 seconds away, feel free to hold

knotty wagon
#

my trinket button is currently occupied by heroic throw

opal peak
#

man i gotta get better at dpsing while living b4 i start worrying about trinket use outside of macro'd use

modern brook
#

@knotty wagon You will always have vial for every other avatar

primal crypt
#

Macro your vial to two casts

oblique garnet
modern brook
#

but the cooldowns will not always line up such that you can use them at the start of avatar

primal crypt
#

Thunder clap and avatar

sick sentinel
#

is it worth it to have 2 deafening crash traits?

primal crypt
#

You'll never miss a vial

knotty wagon
#

mmk i'll leave it macro'd while i figure out a keybind

modern brook
#

Either macro it to TC and accept some shitty activations or just press another button

knotty wagon
#

I have an idea

primal crypt
#

@oblique garnet wtffffff

#

That leech

#

Jesus

knotty wagon
#

I can move heroic throw to F4

#

put trinket on alt tilde

primal crypt
#

Lateclap

modern brook
#

πŸ‘

knotty wagon
#

and just not use voidelf racial

opal peak
#

but if u macro it to TC then u can't really wait 3 seconds for avatar πŸ€” heck it ill add the macro

sick sentinel
#

Again how many dead keybinds do u have?

knotty wagon
#

Shits dumb anyways

#

define dead

primal crypt
#

I hve so many dead keybinds

modern brook
#

unused

knotty wagon
#

ALl of them are used

oblique garnet
#

yeah yamo idk

primal crypt
#

That gives me anxiety

late cedar
#

Do u need pvp trink

knotty wagon
#

Army knife is placeholder for prepot

late cedar
#

In dungo

knotty wagon
#

Yes

#

I pvp a lot

oblique garnet
#

had the same exact legs without the leech

late cedar
#

Just swap trinkets for dungo/pvp

modern brook
#

f1 is fishing dude

#

wtf

knotty wagon
#

been same keybind for 200 years

sick sentinel
#

wow

primal crypt
#

@oblique garnet even better

#

Straight upgrade

knotty wagon
#

f1 key is ultra uncomy for me to hit

modern brook
#

why are buns on a key?

sick sentinel
#

^

opal peak
#

^

#

literally about to type that

knotty wagon
#

Thats my engineering glider

#

key

sick sentinel
#

^

knotty wagon
#

but i cant use glider in dungeons

sick sentinel
#

^

knotty wagon
#

so i just use mage food

#

and swap

primal crypt
#

Heh

sick sentinel
#

Why

modern brook
#

🀷

knotty wagon
#

Why not

opal peak
#

y not have some dumb binding for that

#

like shift P

#

or something

modern brook
#

I wont pretend my set up is any cleaner but ur not allowed to complain about not having a bind for on use

#

when u have mana buns onshift c

primal crypt
opal peak
#

monkaS

sick sentinel
#

Or two mounts

late cedar
#

Omg lol

sick sentinel
#

The fuck is wrong with u, make a macro

knotty wagon
#

@primal crypt where those lockstones at

primal crypt
#

Shift G

little ravine
#

is 15ilvl worth losing a BoM πŸ€” 385 for 3x BOM (1xDC), but the 400 does not have BOM but has a DC to make it 2xBoM and 2xDC

primal crypt
#

The heal macro

knotty wagon
#

@sick sentinel Bro, less hostility.

opal peak
#

wha

#

u have 2 mounts bound

#

use opie

#

EZ

knotty wagon
#

Alt Shift 1 is flying

#

Shift T is mount

#

Strider

#

Been that way forever

opal peak
#

doesn't mean u can't change and adapt

little ravine
#

you can get a macro to have a ground/flying mount depending if you can currently fly

sick sentinel
#

Make that a macro

errant shuttle
#

any tips for this week?

modern brook
#

@primal crypt your set up is my set up like shifted to the right ish

#

everything is like 1 key off

#

its giving me super agita

errant shuttle
#

can we pull big since its fort even though bolster may be a problem

primal crypt
#

Kek

hollow thorn
knotty wagon
#

My normal on use trinket key is Alt `

#

which was occupied by heroic throw

primal crypt
#

I recently stopped using the 6 key

modern brook
#

@hollow thorn no leach bad roll

knotty wagon
#

so i put it on f4

primal crypt
#

It's weird

modern brook
#

I box from 5 down

hollow thorn
#

got it on my rogue yday

knotty wagon
#

All of my characters have basically same binds

#

wanna see bdk?

modern brook
#

1-5, q-t, a-g, z-v

sick sentinel
#

Do u have a naga mouse or something like it @knotty wagon

modern brook
#

+shift and alt modifiers

little ravine
#

or just get a mouse with more buttons :))

primal crypt
#

No alt modis

knotty wagon
#

My mouse buttons are occupied

primal crypt
#

Left alt is my push to talk

opal peak
#

yam, do u play with that showing?

#

that's so much stuff

primal crypt
#

@opal peak I do

knotty wagon
modern brook
#

alt is also my ptt :^)

knotty wagon
#

BDK keybinds

primal crypt
#

It takes up 50% of my screen

west kayak
#

I use a Naga with an Orbweaver. Only use my keyboard for chat.

opal peak
#

wtf

primal crypt
#

I stare at my action bars only

late cedar
#

That's how u play the game baby

#

World of barcraft

primal crypt
#

Nothing else matters

#

LMAO

opal peak
#

i do that monkaS i just hid most of my bars

modern brook
#

I'm a big fan of @lusty grotto's play of using an onscreen keyboard to be both a keyboard turner and a clicker at te same time

sick sentinel
#

No u play by slamming ur head on the key oard

late cedar
#

Loool

knotty wagon
#

Like, my keybinds are eerily similar between tanks

primal crypt
#

@modern brook oh my jesus

sick sentinel
#

Lol

primal crypt
#

That is the most 200iq thing I've ever heard lmao

#

Legit spit on my phone

last mason
#

anyone have a wa for vial

modern brook
#

yah ur bars reminded me of that

primal crypt
#

On screen keyboard

modern brook
#

@last mason what are you looking for the wa to track

primal crypt
#

Lmao

last mason
#

just the cd, super simple

modern brook
last mason
#

just need it somewhere for my eyes are looking more often

#

and yea forgot about that channel ty

modern brook
#

I have one that tracks stack count

primal crypt
modern brook
#

Its not particularly useful

last mason
#

does that track the cd, or just the buff bring on or off

#

being

sick sentinel
#

I mean just roll ur tokens on the passive version from the WB

primal crypt
last mason
#

oh yea that looks good

sick sentinel
#

Then u don't have to track anything

modern brook
#

why isnt that 86 wtf

last mason
#

i mean 420 with leach, id like to use it lol

#

leech***

primal crypt
#

You can change it to track either slot 13 or 14

#

I think default is 13, I have it set on 14

sick sentinel
#

I still remember getting a 370 of prisim in 8.0

#

It was awesome

#

Who needs vial when u have the baby mode trinket

opal peak
#
This Aura uses Trinket Slot 2. If u want to change the Trinket Slot
go to "Trigger -> Equipment Slot > Dropdown"
brisk ferry
#

I hadn't even thought of this, is there a benefit to having more than 1 Overwhelming Power?

sick sentinel
#

More haste

brisk ferry
#

but it makes sense to run 2 right? Like it does stack

sick sentinel
#

It's literally vial, haste edition

oblique garnet
#

Eh

sick sentinel
#

Yeah, the more u stack it the more u get of it

#

It's vial not in the sense that's it's strong that it works like it

primal crypt
oblique garnet
#

Yamo

opal peak
#

πŸ€”

primal crypt
oblique garnet
#

Yamo

brisk ferry
sick sentinel
oblique garnet
#

Dont lie

narrow abyss
#

Yamo

primal crypt
#

Fine fine, from the raid xD

narrow abyss
#

Dirty liar

primal crypt
#

πŸ˜‚

opal peak
#

that does remind me to log in quick to open boxes

primal crypt
opal peak
#

ok what am i getting?

primal crypt
#

My box gave me junk :(

modern brook
#

yamo a fat lair

oblique garnet
#

I might have to inappropriatley kiss you in front of your wife to have that kind of luck yamo

sick sentinel
#

I wish I could log in, stupid work

primal crypt
#

Lul

opal peak
#

im at school on my laptop so can't really do anything except open boxes lol

primal crypt
#

I kind of want to open her boxes

modern brook
#

@sick sentinel fuck work man same boat 😠

primal crypt
#

But she'd get sooo mad

narrow abyss
#

Opening boxes then back to division πŸ˜‚

opal peak
#

rip

brisk ferry
opal peak
#

i got gloves

narrow abyss
#

Oooo juicy

opal peak
#

didnt look what they are yet

sick sentinel
#

cheap enchant

opal peak
#

but unlikely an upgrade 😦

narrow abyss
#

Whoa whoa whoa

modern brook
#

I'm looking forward to my 7th belt this season

narrow abyss
#

+27

brisk ferry
#

yeh I am an enchanter so I been leveling it

narrow abyss
#

Hello

primal crypt
#

27 haste lul

modern brook
#

I respect the 27 grind tbh

#

10 haste isnt worth the gold

brisk ferry
#

but that 10 haste would definitely not make me be so terrible at this game

opal peak
#

rip not an upgrade

#

😦

brisk ferry
#

can't for the life of me gamble an azerite piece with BoM though

modern brook
#

Im like 21% haste raw

#

10 aint making the difference

opal peak
#

man i can't even buy my 415 chest this week

#

😑

primal crypt
#

My pally got a titanforge 415 in a 425 slot :(

brisk ferry
#

yeah in-game I think I'm at 23% haste

primal crypt
#

Feelsbadman

#

I got pieces at 370 still

brisk ferry
#

dont buy chest on warr, do first boss mythic

#

only 2 of the gamble chests have BoM 😦

opal peak
#

i got 410 crit/vers gloves but i got 415 haste/crit 😦

knotty wagon
#

I got a 385 chest for 165 residuum

#

got desert guardians

primal crypt
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Does the crit vers have more crit?

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i lied, they were crit mastery

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idk y i said vers

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LIAR

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high mastery

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ew

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literally no idea y i said vers

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How many shoulders/helm have if/bom from gamble box?

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time to be dissapointed in my monk's chest now

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Pog

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@sick sentinel uh. 3

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I think

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shoulders I think is 4

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Boooo

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helm 3

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I would go check before purchasing

sick sentinel
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HM, not bad

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😑

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410 belt on monk, not upgade

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Reddit is crying, new calligraphy tortollan quest is too hard they say...

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18 seige

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that bolster spotter Pog

oblique garnet
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Huh

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How is that too hard

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Literally follow the formation on a mount

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don't u just draw lines on the floor?

oblique garnet
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You mount up and follow the line

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Keeps failing because they cant draw a straight line and it disappears too fast lmao

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yeah, I did it and had no idea wtf I was doing

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Ahahahahaha

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rofl

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First time i did it was an accident

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Just take a screenshot

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All the comments, "gitgud"

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Universe brain

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for real universe brain if u need it, would make it easier

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but really, it's not hard

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idk if i've done on warrior

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on monk i just tigers lust and finish 90% while image is still up

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πŸ˜ƒ

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If you just mount

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nope

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heck mount

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You finish it with with the image up

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does starting the WQ even dismount you? you should already be on a mount

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inb4 we get flying and druids cant do it in flight form