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lol
typhoon
That sounds a lot like bad rng or your ranged being too close to the adds. Did 21 FH, didn't get harpooned once
My boomkin cheesed me
anyways currently real boss is 22 FH how do dps not die to azerite shot if the healer misses a bird poo
He was standing in melee
@rapid trench gotta use the new los strat
On the broken boat
wha
Do tell
wtf
On the piece of wood
iIve tried a few different ones but couldnt figure out actually LoS
that's Pog
You got any clips of that?
But, it still has a chance for you to get pooped on
So you move out until poop is gone
that sounds
Check nerfclap recent FH
real sketch
ya but thats long enough for ppl to die
they do it over and over
but i guess if ur at point of 1 shots anyway
yamo thats not good strat
wait, 3rd boss on ML is doing any meele dmg at all?
what
nvm they reset, I linked too early
Yup, just use rage on ip
that is gamechanger
And reflect chemical dot
On 3rd boss
It will target the two closest players
So if you dont have reflect up, let other two take it
One can get cleansed and other can, cloak or do whatever
Defensive if need be
ineed to have tracker for this chemical burn
Wait, the green shit never goes out the arena so rogues are always safe
That actually looks decent comparing to how you explained it
@rapid trench the last 2 bosses if you go never surrender you lose too much value on the heal of last stand which outweighs the never surrender since you basically have to be dying all the time for it to be worth
The heal heals regardless of bolster. Or are you meaning in terms of uses of the heal with the cd reduction @late ?
@tidal scarab rogs are safe, but you as the tank could get pooped on
And have to move out
Of course not
its also worth nothing that both glickz and nerf have more than 10% base leech
But when you move out, rogs now have to position out of los, unless you dont want them to dps lol
Yeah, they have that insane leech
I tend to run never surrender in lode on fortified weeks. Maybe my healers just aren't strong enough
But it did alleviate a lot of pressure doing so
fine not speccing out of the love of my life bolster
i know there's a lot of non-physical damage from trash but
@primal crypt also my setup atm on TR is Sea-Brawlers Helm, Sinister Glad Shoulders, Desert Guardian Chest
Yeah, I barely got any TR time
im scared of ML this week π¦
Id say its pretty "easy" as far as motherlode weeks go
Just dont bolster the robots
well obvi that's the goal but u want like all the robots
and tanking trash that long to kill robots first
sounds terrible
yea but at least you actually get to tank fulltime again and have to kite less
well since we are not going to mdi
we are only playing in tyrr weeks
lol
@sick sentinel you on TR?
nah
@primal crypt Unstable flames has 63% uptime lmao
i mean my current plan is to use this week to focus on my warrior more instead of pushing on monk
wait what?
but
I didn't know you needed to apply
Jesus
monk is my main for raid since i heal - it's also nice and ez bc isb and relax
yea but you do nothing else
but im not a good warrior
its not very rewarding
i die
you gotta master the art of clapping
tru
also yamo you cant get 2x Pieces with BoM + UF and 3x DC
i need better feel so i don't tunnel and ignore defensives 4head
I feel like coming fro a monk to any other tank especially a warriorn would be an adjustment to say the least.
it actually wasn't bad, way more engaging
Lots of tools as a warrior, but monk can basically tunnel for days cuz iron brew
well that's the point, it's way more engaging so its a lot of what ur not used to
so more to get used to
Warrior rn is ridiculously strong
ya i just need to get better at not wasting SB by stacking with LS -doesn't happen often anymore but still needs work - and not using up rage right b4 i need it for SB
it's not me thinking it's different - part of it is my normal feel for just pressing isb every so often
another part is me being dumb and getting smacked and ignoring the fact that I have LS up and thinking "shit i need SB"
Hello guys, can someone tell me what would be the best passif from the loas for war prot ?
We finaly startet mythic progress yesterday and were able to kill Jadefire Masters very quickly. Grong was next an we were able to get him to 13%. Quick question for you guys, what would you prefere. BDK tanking Grong and me taking the throws (with spellreflect) or the other way arround? Our healers couldn`t decide what they prefer.
how do u start with Jadefire?
alliance
ah
@opal peak I made a big red text WA which says 'Last Stand Up DO NOT BLOCK'
It helped
kimbul/bob or gonk if u want speed - think kimbul was mentioned to do more dps but more testing might be needed to confirm - based off very quick discord search for zandalari @next ingot
ya i was thinking of that @unborn island
but i stare at my bars more than i should so i prob wouldnt see that
monkaS
thanks @opal peak
u can search this discord for some more discusions of it to get a better idea
take the throws as warrior, SR for every one of it and you can leap back in before the fear hits
DK is gonna lose too much time coming back
@next ingot Bwonsamdi is actually the best one for ST dps, Paku if you plan on m+ mainly
ya it's more just more comfortable with warrior - i need to play it more and not just say "fuck it" and swapping to my monk when i have a few bad runs
yea im not playing war for raid, mostly MM+
@opal peak I have the same issue, I just made it so big i couldn't possibly miss it π
paku
little numbers test through logs, if you wanna look at them
1 UF 2 OP - Jaina Trinket
vampiric speed is massive if you can get 2
12.3% of overall healing
@primal crypt i feel kinda bad we have maybe gimped ourselves by giving away the best stats etc π€
just gotta prove that we are superior warriors LUL
how is that gimping yourselves π€
Jaina trinket almost as much dmg as my shield slam
More dmg than revenge at 64 casts lmao
This shit is unreal
Mates trying to find same topic, but didnt succed. WA for spell reflect is crashing every time some spell is to reflect. Am i only one with this problem?
im talking about WA in guides-resources-faq
@prisma echo might have to speak with Marok
He made the WA
I know he was helping someone a couple days ago with some crashing issues
I think it needs some lib Addon or something
@primal crypt thank you very much ill reach @fierce juniper !
maybe i need to read all description on wagio π
is there any pawn for tanks? or is pawn like sims,only for dmg?
You can sim yourself as Prot as well to get stat weights according to your current gear @silver tangle
but not for survival?
No, you can't sim for survival - there are too many variables for that.
The general idea for survival is: ilvl->haste-> w/e.
i see :D
Most secondaries are fairly close together so if the item is higher than what you already have then use that regardless of stats (except rings/trinkets).
@primal crypt damage on a dummy like that will make everchill look better than it actually is in practice since you have to stack it to max again every pull
Not that it isnβt good, but you wonβt be having 5 min trash packs with most of that time it being stacked at 10.
I remember it being just as good when I ran my normal version
Kind of fell off once I started geting other trinkets, but man, it does so much dmg
Youre right though
Dummy dmg should be taken with a grain of salt
Its really nice to see though
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DWJfKTQBxkwj4zAy/#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=3 -Gutripper is fail though
does jainas trinket help w/ skittish?
I was hoping for more :(
the only thing taht helps with skittish is taunting and doing dmg
Just clap harder
In general you want as many BoM traits as you can @silver tangle while maintaining atleast one DC.
ok π
Ugh, cant decide on whether moment of glory is worth it or not
Im thinking it's more hp with 2 additional seconds is better than a small bubble for myself
When the other option is self@reliance
^
i have this exact piece
It's against resounding protection
And 16k really isnt much
It helps, but
A stronger external may be better
self reliance is a fucking joke
Especially for speed running keys
We're pushing new boundaries
:)
Gemhide and vampiric speed is really good for bdk
They need the armor lul
@primal crypt New set has entered the competition
@oblique garnet do tell
Better then bulwark of masses or bury hatchet imo
haste/crit
Crit heavy?
yes
What we lookin like
Ravager ....?
Sorry, @heavy chasmthis is TR
For dat parry lel
Holy...
How many UF?
Dont think we need more than 1
Yeah, that's significant
Whew
But the trade off is the dmg taken
We gonna have to try both sets in freehold
See how it holds up
Especially at the pace we'll be pulling
Guess which is which
not really no
you get so many parries that you pretty much have to spend all your rage on IP
XD
How does DI dwarf racial scale on necrotic 'dispell'? Is it scaling per stack or per spell/aura?
no they dont work in kr or atal anymore
yes
@oak ice it counts as ONE dispell.
thats damage taken
So per spell, ty!
Crit is also more readily available
In high quantities
Im swapping everything right now
i didnt also have everchill anchor on that one
i think if you go anchor + gore you get the best results
That's what I was thinking
Nothing will beat that combo
Not even on use
1.5m is too awkward
Swap a couple more pieces late
There are a couple crit/vers
Where crit is 100+
Im still working so im doing it slowly
late what azerite traits are you runing? how many bom?
dont have pieces π¦
I thought 3x dc wasnβt that huge
its just for damage
AoE DPS wise it's one of the best things you can do.
Oh I thought the dps increase wasnβt that big but I guess it was more not big enough to beat the dps/defensive value of other traits
Mind you, late and I are speaking strictly for the MDI tournament realm right now
Ya ik
im also ridiculously geared so i dont really need defensives on live either
Cyclone strike: reflected
Boss health: low
Just saying for other people who might be reading our banter
yesterday I tryied to reflect the cyclones
The DPS increase after the 1st one isn't HUGE but it's still a DPS increase on your hardest hitting AoE ability..most other DPS traits are more ST focused like BfI etc.
Fair
in 17
That makes sense
not successful π
maybe yes
Guess who missed the kick? My wife lmao
oof
Whew
you got hit by them?
So y 2 proc trinkets instead of 2 on use?
Some of them reflected and others went through..still not sure why.
probably 2 from the sides which did not hit you at the same time
Yeah. That dumb cone effect
i mean they still do damage even if you reflect them
Weird positioning
whats UF again?
unstable flames
Unstable Flames
oh nvm
Flames of the unstable
was thinking about the fury trait and got confused
Damn @oblique garnet wont be able to do the build I want on live, so much high ilvl pvp gear
hm?
Lol, would require glad rating
Lmao
because who likes to play mplus during fort anyway
you can just pray
from the cache
π
On live, is it worth talking 400 azerite pieces with bom/DC over 415 without them?
Dps wisely
@primal crypt only 1 piece is from pvp
it has neither BoM or DC?
I mean
you can get all others from pve
and even that can be replaced
for deeps?
To get to that point having 3xbom
Crit
crit kage
Way deep crit
phat crit
He's even taking less dmg lmao
that's what I am doing already
Parry all the things
I'm haste/crit lul
When its like this its gucci
@primal crypt In high physical dungeons crit/haste in shrine ml etc haste/vers
that is with 5 itf stacks?
Yup
yes
this is me rn
Needs more crit
i have my 2 sets ready
xD
You are not dropin i lvl on items to get to those stats ye?
@rough egret we're on the tournament realm
I am just equipping max ilvl
but kage is on live
^
actually considering goreblock over opulence
DO IT
also this
keep in mind, I have eng helm (DC+ gismo) and a CR+BoM chest
What trinkets are you guys using on TR?
Gore + Anchor?
Merketha's counts for stacking Anchor right?
How good is Gismo tho?
Only for prot or also fury? Cuz i tried simming, simmed way less
Why do people like anchor so much?
How much is a lot of damage
So like next week anchor cuz fortified is good?
But is it better than a rezans or a socket block or a 425 opulence tho
are you saying next week anchor will be good?
Idk fortified so a huge uptime on a ton of addds
yeah good point too
If any week would be the way to go it has to be fortified righgt
I donβt like anchor at all, I go for strength trinkets
thought this week it was also ok to help kite a bit
Wish i had a fat block then Iβd use that
What's block? Opu?
i have 410 socket block, 410 rezans, 425 opulence and 405 jaina, I never used jaina yet as prot
Block is WM trinket
I need to replace my 395 howler π¦
I got lucky with 405 block and 410 prism
Funny to log in and see this convo. I just Rezans (400) and was wondering if it should replace Anchor (405) in M+
is there any haste cap? making my warr on tourney realm and 45% haste seems like a lot
Block over rezan? Max clap?
I take rezan over block tbh
Max clap
Most of the time i take block and rezan and skip my 425 opulence
The higher keys you do the more important parry becomes
max clap fuck defensive p
I have same trinks as you I usually opu rezan but I wanna go big claps
I use 415 alchemy trinket and 410 vial for massive claps
just cuz third boss hurts like a bitch
tanked it on a 19, 26K damage intake per second
even with reflecting the dot once every cycle
Did they nerf Grong's trinket on prot warriors specifically ?
cuz it's simming a shitload of dmg on other tanks on Bloodmallet
St or aoe?
I think its because warriors use all of the available gcds where as the other strength tanks have downtime in their rotation
@austere oar Itβs simming with seraphim
Iβm assuming seraphim bumps the damage of it since itβs a secondary stat steroid
yeah maybe a rotation problem
what loot spec should i be for weeklychest?
prot
what stats do you guys prefer in m+?
Is vers bad normally? Also is this just in an M+ setting?
Vers isn't bad, just lower on the list compared to the other 4
crit is not reliable enough for raid
Okay, thanks
blood siphon / azerite globs / crystallize carapace which to pick?
BS
thx
CC would provide best DPS when you have lots of people hitting you and you get hit for 10% of your life
basically when you're dead
Not in raid it doesn't
You said m+\raid
vers is what you want in raids after haste
Can't Parry a boss ability
In raids
???
you cna
U cant
and when it happens it's great
mytrax was parryable
you can parry many boss abilities
why are we discussing 2ndaries past more?
Heβs memeing per usual
I'm not actually
if i have 400 shoulder/chest which is better buy at 415 vendor?
U literally cant
@warped thorn do you m raid?
In uldir maybe
coulda fooled me, claiming crit doesnβt work in m+
no heroic
gigalul
π€· then it depends on the peices
But in BoD, u can't Parry a move like h could in m+
otherwise roll shoulders and just get 415 chest from m cotl
ok thx
Is there a list of parry-able M+ abilities? The one I know off the top of my head is the third KR boss that charges
@daring marlin maybe I worded it wrong but doesn't changr what I mean by crit not parrying a boss attack like u could in m+
Hey guys! I want to race change my warrior and I am between dark iron and Light forged. I am currently playing as Human what do you guys suggest?
@oblique garnet needs more haste lmao
@sand kettle nothing exaustive to my knowledge
@cursive dune did; or NE if tofu's here
Light forged also look better in plate, imo
DID is my dream race lol, but im horde
DID to look cool and give 0 fucks about necrotic or bleeds
DID racial synergize well with warriors biggest weak point, being physical dots
so does regular dwarf but they're not spicy so fuck em
Light forged draenai i think sim the highest in ST, and are cuter
LfD is best race
Faction change is only 18.12USD and gives u better options
And the New helm upgrade is looking good
the AoE on LfD is A.MA.ZING
Faction changing doesnt help when all my friends and raid group are horde
Pro Tip
DID feels so good on necrotic weeks. I think they actually look better in plate gear than LFD, but thatβs definitely subjective.
If u ever join a battle ground and your team is fucking stupid as shit
Wait wrong chat nvm
sorry fam
@faint horizon I'll argue
Now I wanna hear the pro tip...
LFD are better looking objectively
just leave the bg
I like beards.
Fuck, I got yet another shield from the chest
What can I macro Vial into
Avatar
obv
u shouldnt macro vial
I mean
unless its macro'd to rotational buttons
You should only use vial with avatar lol
then use a different trinket π€·
If you're not going to use vial on CD its value is not that of a 410 trinket
vial is good during avatar
Itβs worthless if youβre buffing outside avatar
avatar has a 1.5 minute CD that is super reduced
Yeah you use with every other avatar
avatar is ~50-60 depending on how shitty you are at rage management
It will
so it goes use, rip, rip, use
Then donβt macro it and just use it on avatar
Why yikes.
One use trinkets are basically just another CD
And theyβre reliable when you want them
Vampiric speed vs resounding protection?
Vamp
ty
I attend to agree here Mid, but the way we use them makes them pretty much automatic/passive in a way. So it's another cd which could've been a passive 'on equip' effect anyway. π
Crystaline Carapace vs Blood siphon?
We use them so identical every time, so it just becomes a muscle memory and it doesn't really play out as a separate action, just an additional annoying button to use (unless its macroed)
Carapace seems neat for defensive purposes, but leech is enticing
Do not go vamp speed @knotty wagon if u aren't getting a lot of them kills
Blood sport is hot. I mean, fair but the philosophy for doing high damage in keys is to stack as many cdβs as you can on top of each other
Unless its been having issues I don't get it to proc but on kills I get
I mean i ran a +14 last week
But also RP is a much better trait by miles
^
That heal from vamp and the speed is overall worthless when we have leap and charges
Blood siphon for myth plus
Carapace is IF lite
I would hit carapace to be honest. For the leech to have impact it must be as least a good amount. (like having leech on your other gear as well) But hey I might be wrong.
Carapace is pog
IF is one of our better traits
it even does dmg
@primal crypt vial on cd or save for avatars
not much
Leech too good
@modern brook on cd
Leech is overrated
ty
only good for healers tbf
UNLESS
Yikes
You have 700+ static haste
interesting stat
third BoM or second DC
3rd BoM
Oh nvm less interesting stat
Third bom @summer wigeon
does double IF double the block to 800?
not exactly a double but it stacks
it stacks
So i got several different answers about vamp speed
multiple traits have Diminishing returns
Vamp speed is pog for M+
1x vamp speed is worth having in 10+ keys
outside of that its pretty useless
rather, inconsistent.
also, finally necro week is over
necro week is ezpz tho
only with competent people
Necro isnt over in EU yet myt dude
my war is my alt, so his io is only like 900 right now
so you're doing keys low enough that you should clap the mobs before the stacks even get high
Can you give it to me?
I have this 385 badge i almost prefer to use
insane avatar dmg
If it actually lines up
Wait...
There is no way the 385 badge is better
Did I just read that Iβm failing by macroing my vial to avatar and forgetting about it @primal crypt π³
You're losing casts
U can do whatever you want man
depends on fight length
rage management
I just do keys
Here's the real question, how many keybinds do/don't u have?
I mean
You macro it and use it every other ish avatar
but like fishing keybind > trinket
So u have a lot of dead keybinds probably
I think someone mentioned this before but how are people liking Blood Rite? I have the choice of that or Bloodsport, doing mainly 15+ keys
BS
BS
Blood Rite is good in some dungeons, bloodsport is more safe
yeah that's what I figured, thanks
I have a chestpiece that has BS and BR. I use BR for the haste, uptime is around 40%.
@opal peak yup
π©
Trinkets need to be popped as much as possible
Every second you wait you're losing value
If avatar is like 2-3 seconds away, feel free to hold
my trinket button is currently occupied by heroic throw
man i gotta get better at dpsing while living b4 i start worrying about trinket use outside of macro'd use
@knotty wagon You will always have vial for every other avatar
Macro your vial to two casts
@primal crypt monkaS
but the cooldowns will not always line up such that you can use them at the start of avatar
Thunder clap and avatar
is it worth it to have 2 deafening crash traits?
You'll never miss a vial
mmk i'll leave it macro'd while i figure out a keybind
Either macro it to TC and accept some shitty activations or just press another button
I have an idea
Lateclap
π
and just not use voidelf racial
but if u macro it to TC then u can't really wait 3 seconds for avatar π€ heck it ill add the macro
Again how many dead keybinds do u have?
I hve so many dead keybinds
unused
yeah yamo idk
That gives me anxiety
Do u need pvp trink
Army knife is placeholder for prepot
In dungo
had the same exact legs without the leech
Just swap trinkets for dungo/pvp
been same keybind for 200 years
wow
f1 key is ultra uncomy for me to hit
why are buns on a key?
^
^
but i cant use glider in dungeons
^
Heh
Why
π€·
Why not
I wont pretend my set up is any cleaner but ur not allowed to complain about not having a bind for on use
when u have mana buns onshift c
do mine next
monkaS
Or two mounts
Omg lol
The fuck is wrong with u, make a macro
@primal crypt where those lockstones at
Shift G
is 15ilvl worth losing a BoM π€ 385 for 3x BOM (1xDC), but the 400 does not have BOM but has a DC to make it 2xBoM and 2xDC
The heal macro
@sick sentinel Bro, less hostility.
doesn't mean u can't change and adapt
you can get a macro to have a ground/flying mount depending if you can currently fly
Make that a macro
any tips for this week?
@primal crypt your set up is my set up like shifted to the right ish
everything is like 1 key off
its giving me super agita
can we pull big since its fort even though bolster may be a problem
Kek
@oblique garnet Not
even
425
xd
I recently stopped using the 6 key
@hollow thorn no leach bad roll
so i put it on f4
It's weird
I box from 5 down
got it on my rogue yday
1-5, q-t, a-g, z-v
Do u have a naga mouse or something like it @knotty wagon
+shift and alt modifiers
or just get a mouse with more buttons :))
No alt modis
My mouse buttons are occupied
Left alt is my push to talk
@opal peak I do
alt is also my ptt :^)
BDK keybinds
It takes up 50% of my screen
I use a Naga with an Orbweaver. Only use my keyboard for chat.
wtf
I stare at my action bars only
i do that monkaS i just hid most of my bars
I'm a big fan of @lusty grotto's play of using an onscreen keyboard to be both a keyboard turner and a clicker at te same time
No u play by slamming ur head on the key oard
Loool
Like, my keybinds are eerily similar between tanks
@modern brook oh my jesus
Lol
anyone have a wa for vial
yah ur bars reminded me of that
On screen keyboard
@last mason what are you looking for the wa to track
Lmao
just the cd, super simple
also obligatory #ui-addons-manager can help you more
just need it somewhere for my eyes are looking more often
and yea forgot about that channel ty
I have one that tracks stack count
@last mason Like this?
Its not particularly useful
I mean just roll ur tokens on the passive version from the WB
@last mason
oh yea that looks good
Then u don't have to track anything
why isnt that 86 wtf
@last mason https://wago.io/Trinket/3
You can change it to track either slot 13 or 14
I think default is 13, I have it set on 14
I still remember getting a 370 of prisim in 8.0
It was awesome
Who needs vial when u have the baby mode trinket
This Aura uses Trinket Slot 2. If u want to change the Trinket Slot
go to "Trigger -> Equipment Slot > Dropdown"
I hadn't even thought of this, is there a benefit to having more than 1 Overwhelming Power?
More haste
but it makes sense to run 2 right? Like it does stack
It's literally vial, haste edition
Eh
Yeah, the more u stack it the more u get of it
It's vial not in the sense that's it's strong that it works like it
From my box!
Yamo
π€

Yamo


Dont lie
Yamo
Fine fine, from the raid xD
Dirty liar
π
that does remind me to log in quick to open boxes

ok what am i getting?
My box gave me junk :(
yamo a fat lair
I might have to inappropriatley kiss you in front of your wife to have that kind of luck yamo
I wish I could log in, stupid work
Lul
im at school on my laptop so can't really do anything except open boxes lol
I kind of want to open her boxes
@sick sentinel fuck work man same boat π
But she'd get sooo mad
Opening boxes then back to division π
rip
π
i got gloves
Oooo juicy
didnt look what they are yet
cheap enchant
but unlikely an upgrade π¦
Whoa whoa whoa
I'm looking forward to my 7th belt this season
+27
yeh I am an enchanter so I been leveling it
Hello
27 haste lul
but that 10 haste would definitely not make me be so terrible at this game
My pally got a titanforge 415 in a 425 slot :(
yeah in-game I think I'm at 23% haste
dont buy chest on warr, do first boss mythic
only 2 of the gamble chests have BoM π¦
i got 410 crit/vers gloves but i got 415 haste/crit π¦
Does the crit vers have more crit?
LIAR
high mastery
ew
literally no idea y i said vers
How many shoulders/helm have if/bom from gamble box?
shoulders I think is 4
Boooo
helm 3
I would go check before purchasing
HM, not bad
Reddit is crying, new calligraphy tortollan quest is too hard they say...
don't u just draw lines on the floor?
You mount up and follow the line
Keeps failing because they cant draw a straight line and it disappears too fast lmao
yeah, I did it and had no idea wtf I was doing
Ahahahahaha
rofl
First time i did it was an accident
Just take a screenshot
All the comments, "gitgud"
Universe brain
for real universe brain if u need it, would make it easier
but really, it's not hard
idk if i've done on warrior
on monk i just tigers lust and finish 90% while image is still up
π
If you just mount
You finish it with with the image up

