the per mob XP is insane
#protection
sand egret
warm plinth
Yeah, btw the 440k was just the dungeon completion, not counting the mob kills in the dungeon
sand egret
and if you're character has like legendaries and shit....you just pull the whole damn place
warm plinth
I'm gonna try to get one more toon leveled after work tonight. Just won't have a tank queue which will suck a bit; hopefully queues will still be busy at 3am ๐
modern brook
sick sentinel
our ele shaman is gong gang
tulip arch
Is the leech worth the loss of the better secondary stat?
sick sentinel
I would use the leech tbh
memes
Go Gale belt
It's literally better than what's equipped in every sense
for raids you go apathy
for mplus Crit is the best stat per point after haste
royal dew
How do you maintain shield block for the most time. Do you use both at the same time or spread them out?
sand egret
LastStannnnnd
tulip arch
lol
sick sentinel
sand egret
with Bolster @royal dew , it functions as a SB so it allows you to rechage a single charge during it's duration
sick sentinel
actually you are correct
when you are comparing 2 items of the same ilvl, you equip the one with the most haste
so gale is better defense wise
tulip arch
Yea was leaning towards Gale
sick sentinel
The vers is only useful if ur a KT or HM
tulip arch
I certainly makes it easier since it has more haste
sick sentinel
Never go vers otherwise
sand egret
shield block lasts 6 seconds and with a decent amount of haste you can bring it around ~12 seconds. This puts you in the sweet spot to do 3x SB with a 6 second downtime on the 4th (which is where you can use LS stand to give you almost 2 charges)
sick sentinel
@royal dew you can shieldblock 3 times, then use last stand then you shieldblock 3times and then you can SW then SB twice again
sand egret
SB twice again*
sick sentinel
or do you mean using both charges right away instead of pressing it when it is going to end
Basically u use Last stand(bolster) when u run out of shield blocks
sand egret
yep
sick sentinel
In a raid scenario, u may not always get the chance, but in a m+ it's more common
because in that case, you can use 1 SB, then see of the boss is casting when you SB is ending so you can wait until the cast is over to SB again
Nah fuck that cast it
if that happens then you can SB 4 times instead of 3 before you have to last stand
Waste a cd
Who's gonna stop u, pickle Jesus?
what I also like to do, is that I shockwave the mobs in mplus so I Can SB 3 sec later
Also, use SW
I talked about SW
I know
Just gotta drill it in
Ud be shocked how many prots ive seen not use it but on bosses in m+
And i mean exclusively on bosses
royal dew
What is SW
sick sentinel
Shield wall
royal dew
Ah
sick sentinel
In m+ u should not be reserve about using it on adds
Especially with certain packs, and pull size
royal dew
I feel like I overlap ignore pain and shield block too much. Need to try to spread my shield block.
sick sentinel
Nah thats fine
royal dew
So is casting both shield blocks at once not efficient?
sick sentinel
nope
you are supposed to overlap IP and SB
ud be actively hurting urself otherwise
in a perfect scenario you have both up
but if you have to choose if you are going to IP or SB you always choose SB
Unless its magic damage
Then ull be casting IP
except if you are in niece scenarios like 3 or 4rth boss of motherlode
oblique garnet
Why was i tagged multiple times
warm plinth
Because you deserved it
sick sentinel
why?
dense flame
Would there be a point to using never surrender over bolster for m+. Seems like it would useful for motherlode. Could I just run never surrender the whole dungeon
undone sun
no
sick sentinel
no
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel because team is busy wiping on jaina and cant push alone
sand egret
you could , but it'd prob not be as good outside of the last two bosses
sick sentinel
never surrender is way too mad
if you could change talents during pools maybe
but still]
NS is too niche of a talent to go just for a specific section of a dungeon
did you see the run I did?
steel mauve
would have to leave the dungeon before and after the second to last boss then leave right before the last boss since bolster helps a lot during trash when you need last stand
undone sun
even if you can't effectively use 100% of Bolster, it's better than NS
dense flame
Dunno noticed glickz used it for his ML 22. Was just sparking convo.
undone sun
who
steel mauve
never surrender only really pulls ahead when you're basically dead which is a situation we really never want to be in
sand egret
yeah that's for the last 2 bosses on Tyrn is my guess
sick sentinel
Unless ur running with a resto shaman, id advice against it
dense flame
Wasnโt copying. Was stating that it appears to have a place.
sick sentinel
Im gonna also assume he uses IP traits
steel mauve
thing about high end m+ players is that they use very specific strats tailor made to them or their group, shouldnt ever do as they do unless you fully understand why
sand egret
at that high a key, the bosses are the biggest gate (i'm guessing) this week, so he's probably running that specifically for that
dense flame
Hence the convo starter lol
sick sentinel
but he is good enough to be able to survive without bolster
warm plinth
Or could be that he was just testing it out to see how it felt
oblique garnet
@dense flame its overall worse going ns
dense flame
Sure, understandable. Just wanted to see some opinions. Personally I like bolster too much. Just seeing if I was missing something.
steel mauve
honestly ultimately for 99999 our of 100000 our talents probably wont change
undone sun
he must dip down low quite often to get any effectiveness out of it ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
sick sentinel
Think about it like this
He, and many other top rank players are not playing the same game u and i are
steel mauve
i wish NS would have been changed to get full effect at a higher hp % honestly
but to get 100% effectiveness of NS you need to be at 0% hp
sick sentinel
if you could get 100% effectiveness in 30% it would have been better
undone sun
idd, there should be a higher floor for effectiveness
sick sentinel
30% being a random number
warm plinth
If they made it hit max effectiveness at 40 or so, it might actually be a viable substitute when magic damage is more dangerous
undone sun
even then, it's still not great
warm plinth
But you'd still have to sacrifice it in most cases because bolster overall would be more useful
sick sentinel
or grievous
warm plinth
Unless they also made it so we could swap talents in m+ XD
sick sentinel
If it worked at the 30/40% mark for 100% effectiveness
Shut up @warm plinth , next ur gonna say we need vendors
warm plinth
I didn't say we need to be able to swap talents; just that we'd need to be able to in order to maximize the effectiveness of a modified NS talent :p
warm plinth
Besides, I'm sure teams like Glickz would just have a warlock so they could hearth/get summoned back
sick sentinel
What am I, some fucking filthy mythic raidder
warm plinth
If it was that important
steel mauve
dont think you can summon in m+
sick sentinel
u can
valid knot
Someone here that got alch trinket? Do i need to max alchemy to get it or can i just get the first one at lvl 1?
sick sentinel
gotta summon twice, once to get IN and then again to be at the spot
steel mauve
i think the trinket requires like 130 to make or so
sick sentinel
U dont have to max alchy @valid knot to get the new trinket
warm plinth
Yeah, what INR said
valid knot
So lvl 130?
steel mauve
let me see if i can check
sick sentinel
level 100
steel mauve
its 130 for the 385 trinket
steel mauve
so apparently the first one in that line requires 130, but the third tier requires 100 to make lol
warm plinth
Third tier requires 150 to make
You guys are looking at the skill required to equip it, not the skill to make it.
Er, 130 rather, sorry
valid knot
Ok so guess ill max it
daring marlin
I donโt get how using NS for the last two bosses of ML is hard to grasp. You hearth after azerokk, change, run right back in. Takes like 10 seconds.
NS>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bolster for those two incredibly magic heavy fights too
supple path
Given that ML has a hearth spot 4 seconds from the zone line does seem like an easy potential optimization on tyran weeks yeah.
lusty grotto
its better if you do double death skip
sick sentinel
yeah
lusty grotto
because you are doing both bosses back to back
i honestly don't bother
our team doesnt do both death skips
just one
and while the bosses do seem to hit incredibly hard, you can manage with out NS
if we did both death skips i would seriously consider it
oblique garnet
@daring marlin because its not even worth even that the last 2 bosses are heavy magic damag
lusty grotto
that being said, im also not doing 20s so
lavish oracle
Can you not reflect all cyclone strike tornadoes anymore?
Can only seem to get one
lusty grotto
you can
lusty grotto
lol
lavish oracle
Is there an easy guideline for where to stand to reflect all the tornadoes? can't seem to do it at all today
sick sentinel
if he is targeting you
you can't
if he is targeting somebody else then you go in his model
lavish oracle
Oh, okay, gotcha. Was trying to practice it in a normal, that makes sense.
winter aspen
Is there a way to reflect the ML 3rd boss reliably ?
Or do I need Shroudโs reflexes
supple path
It targets the closest two people
So I guess the most reliable way is have someone else stand closest, and you stand second closest, so you have more time to react.
I'm...PRETTY sure it does it in order of proximity anyhow.
warm plinth
Yeah, it's the two closest people
supple path
Trying to get my groups to do that seems harder than getting that 0.5s reaction time though frankly hah
boreal wasp
She always casts it a little bit after she puts the pools on the ground
So just sr and stand on her after that cast
sand egret
Yeah, it's a quick cast but if you can catch Wasting Strike you can prob catch this
sand egret
timers, pushaw
supple path
0.5
sand egret
ah yeah, so it is
nvm, then. I dunno, I just do it by feel and it works out.
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
supple path
Gonna try Czariat's recommendation in the future here.
oblique garnet
if youre constantly mentally prepared that the chemical burn is gonna come soon you can reflect it easily
oblique garnet
@hot locust youre using elvui right?
hot locust
I do yeah
oblique garnet
Do you have elvui nameplates and on a scale of 1-10 how fucked are they rn?
hot locust
I haven't updated
because everyone else is freaking out
so mine is fine
if you just use an older version
lusty grotto
was there another update today?
hot locust
I'm on 11.0
oblique garnet
i cant use the older version because that keeps giving me lua errors
like constant lua errors
but atm like my biggest issue is the threat colors
lusty grotto
oblique garnet
and like the tanked colors is not working in raids
lusty grotto
yeah i gotta fix threat colors
oblique garnet
and for some reason my good colors and bad colors are mixed
hot locust
works fine
lusty grotto
but they are the same for me as i hadn't changed them from the default
warm plinth
ElvUI's nameplates are trash right now; I switched to Threat Plates
oblique garnet
I did not like threat plates at all
warm plinth
Half the time I click on shit, it keeps the same half-transparent alpha instead of being opaque
It's irritating
warm plinth
Well it's a bug, not a setting. Because sometimes it does go opaque and other times it doesn't
sick sentinel
Just use tidyplates
warm plinth
Then it's a setting that makes no sense. Why would the frame go opaque upon targeting sometimes and other times it doesn't? Like I change targets and the one I just had targeted stays opaque and the new one stays half-transparent
undone sun
for you maybe
honest canopy
Couldnt doit
sick sentinel
we are going to do a +11 freehold after the raid to cool down
undone sun
confirmation biased
honest canopy
Needed to comeback
sick sentinel
double prot
sick sentinel
Ive never used it because of how often people complain about one problem or another
lusty grotto
good thing i fixed that before
sick sentinel
double prot boys
I mean I won't because it isn't invalid
Whether u agree with me or not is another issue
sick sentinel
Unfortunately I've seen to many people complain about it
lusty grotto
they did warn that the update would be big and might break some things
warm plinth
Every addon has bugs, especially around patch times. 99% of the time ElvUI is fine and the biggest thing I have to worry about is where to find a setting because it's not super intuitive. I'm still using ElvUI for everything except nameplates even now
sick sentinel
I understand patch day and even two weeks after
lusty grotto
i honestly cannot go back to default woww
oblique garnet
@warm plinth the issue youre talking about is in the new tab called "Targeted Nameplates" there you have a setting called Non-Target Alpha you turn that to 100% and the nameplates go back to the way it was
lusty grotto
fuck that ugly 2004 shit
sick sentinel
But it's not uncommon for me to come across some issue someone is having with something with that UI addon
warm plinth
Thanks Late; I'll check that out after work
I'm not super thrilled with ThreatPlates either XD
warm plinth
TP is very clear and crisp but almost blindingly so; if I felt like putting time into configuring it, I think it would be good. I just don't have that kind of patience.
sick sentinel
I just use tidyplates, u just fix one thing and that's about it
lusty grotto
there used to be an option that was toggleable called threat colors or some shit
ah nvm
its in the same place
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel can you ss me how they look?
lusty grotto
i doubt they look better than elvui
honest canopy
Sorry to interfear, but anyone else have issues join tws rn on eu?
honest canopy
Wanted to do The weekly on my new warrior but cant join The que
lusty grotto
@oblique garnet is EU, maybe he can help
honest canopy
Noone online in guild so cant ask There ๐
warm plinth
What do you mean by can't join the queue?
oblique garnet
@honest canopy how new is the warrior and did you use a lvl boost?
honest canopy
I did a lvl boost yes, had some gold saved up from all sell runs.
But its 120
Did lvl by questing
oblique garnet
so its less than 24 hours?
warm plinth
I had issues with it on my rogue yesterday, level 90. Just wasn't showing up in the choices for some reason
honest canopy
Did faction change The old warrior, wanted a alliance again so.
Yeah its less then 24h
oblique garnet
you gotta wait 24 hours after a boost to do instanced content
warm plinth
Sad times
oblique garnet
but thats on brand new boosts
not sure if its old one
can you que up to normal dungeons or ?
warm plinth
Is the option showing up in your drop-down menu?
honest canopy
Its no stress tho, the event enda wednsday 0500 so Will have time but it would be a good bump since its a free azerite pice that i wont need to get Lucky on
Nope.
But i could take The quest from The journal
And If abandoning i can take it from tortolan in boralus. Hm
warm plinth
Oh, I see why
You can enter BfA stuff right away; you just can't enter content from previous expansions for 24 hours
candid tiger
Hey guys m+ speaking whats the best loa for us?
warm plinth
I'm kind of curious why my rogue couldn't at first. I wonder if it's an age of character thing. It was a level 90 that I had leveled via dungeon carries with RAF, so it was probably only like 12-15 hours old. But after I leveled a bit, I was able to queue. I had the same issue as you though; it just wasn't showing it as an option.
honest canopy
So I have missed prot discord ๐ช
Tried to queue in with a random
Its said i didnt meet The recuirements.
So its deffo that
warm plinth
Yeah, that sounds right then
honest canopy
Well can do some wqs n ies atleast
Just gotta do The tws tomorrow.
Made it panda male tho. Sad moment.
warm plinth
๐ฌ
sick sentinel
@honest canopy ๐
honest canopy
@sick sentinel ๐๐๐โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
Ghash ikr. It looks quite Fun with The mogs but The animations is just meh...
Wonder If I should buy a token and waste 160k to get rid of it. Waste but dont think i can stand this.
warm plinth
You should change to dwarf or DID
honest canopy
I was Did before factionchanged my old one.
Allways been dwarf on alliance.
Wanted to test smt new. I might need to play dps in raids (we recruited good tanks and as a GM i said that i flex specwise even If I dislike it) so something with cool arms animations would be good
And dwarf as arms is really meh sadly.
sick sentinel
@oblique garnet This is how my tidyplates is set up, Graphite with feral set to dps, and when a target is active/damaged it shows their health and % and for targets that I have mouse over, it also changes their health number from green to yellow to red depending where their health is at
odd bone
guys what talent co,mposition u use for mythics ?
warm plinth
The same one you use for raids
sick sentinel
the only thing I need to do is fix tidyplates from showing my combo points since i am using shadowed unit frames
warm plinth
It's in the icy-veins guide in #268491842637660160 as well as the bottom of the pins in this channel
warm plinth
They're in the guide under the Builds and Talents section
odd bone
guides resources faq ?
odd bone
ty! ๐
oblique garnet
@primal crypt monkaS unbuffed stats on TR
honest canopy
I am looking into The tidyplate stuff as well
primal crypt
@oblique garnet LMAOOOO
oblique garnet
thats without weapon and a shield lmao
honest canopy
Trying to get away from target unitframes
honest canopy
I would like something tho that wont be messy AF when you do TolDagor
sick sentinel
that you needed to apply for tournament realms
to get in
Ive tried a lot of addons(too many) for various ui changes, tidyplates and msbt are the two addons are the ones ive stuck with since i started playing wow
sick sentinel
MiksScrollingBattleText
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel yes?
honest canopy
Ava
honest canopy
I am stuck with SUF and Move Anything
honest canopy
Its The only ones i use. Except for raiding stuff like AA
honest canopy
Clap
sick sentinel
Suf i learned about recently started using since legion
knotty wagon
like 25 minutes over @@ we wiped like 4 times to shark boss
sick sentinel
I wanted an x-perl style frame addon but without all the bullshit
or z-perl or whatever the fuck it goes by now
honest canopy
I have bad vision, so i need smt bigger and ajjstable then standard unitframes.
warm plinth
Good ole XPerl
sick sentinel
do you know what is better than one prot warrior in a key sabu
honest canopy
With move anything i just delete gryรถhons.
warm plinth
5 prot warriors in a key
sick sentinel
2 prot warriors
honest canopy
GG spelling
sick sentinel
we have to do a 5 prot key tbh
warm plinth
You EU bois get on it
sick sentinel
I tried move anything, it just didnt click with me
I like tanking with pretty much nothing on my screen
warm plinth
All the good ones are over there except Sense and Glickz, so make it happen
honest canopy
#5Prot1Key community
sick sentinel
If it wasnt because of the gcd changes id still have my hotbar not displayed
wait so INR you would despise my ui
winter aspen
Is block actually good for prot ?
sick sentinel
Depends
winter aspen
In keys
sick sentinel
How packed is ur ui @sick sentinel
What do u mean by Block being good @winter aspen
warm plinth
^
winter aspen
Gore crusted block
warm plinth
Oh, yes
sick sentinel
Very good
winter aspen
Even over rezan ?
warm plinth
I swear I thought you were talking about like blocking and I was gonna facepalm so hard
honest canopy
I did run it with my Jesse until i got a 410 rezan
sick sentinel
I went back to 25th of january to find a screenshot from in combat @sick sentinel
warm plinth
Holy shit
oblique garnet
@primal crypt theres no reaping affix in TR ๐ค
honest canopy
Lul
knotty wagon
Earthlink, Azerite Globules, Shimmering haven
sick sentinel
that tehr's on the left is gone now
primal crypt
@oblique garnet Just logged in
sick sentinel
I dislike ur details set up @sick sentinel
honest canopy
Have staxked!
sick sentinel
Its like about the only problem I have with that ui
that's from today (I use ERT now)
I love numbers dude ๐คฃ
No the details is fine
Put it underneath
Stacked, not side to side
warm plinth
Why is it so high? You have a huge block of empty space under it
sick sentinel
oh yeah I was doing that
winter aspen
Not sorted by dps
sick sentinel
but I have the "activate windows" thing
winter aspen
WeirdChamp
honest canopy
Aha
sick sentinel
and it blocks it
honest canopy
Explains
sick sentinel
and I am too lazy to actually activate windows
warm plinth
You could move your baby block of binds from the right (the one that's semi-transparent) over under angry assignments, and move details down?
sick sentinel
@winter aspen it's on damage done because you can't dps when you are dead
@sick sentinel How mines look during combat
honest canopy
Well gotta go bed. Its gucci ro be back friends. Talk later. Thank you again Gash for The TW sherlockness. Take care. ๐๐
warm plinth
I thought everyone used the damage done category over DPS. It shows DPS anyway on the right side ๐ค
Have a good night
honest canopy
I R that looks just like mine, with some visuals changes obv
knotty wagon
Should I buy a 400 chest or shoulder
sick sentinel
I hate that scrolling combat text tbh
winter aspen
None
knotty wagon
i cant remember which pool is better
honest canopy
Shoulders.
winter aspen
Buy 415
winter aspen
Oof
knotty wagon
Im buying a 400
honest canopy
Shoulders best IMO.
knotty wagon
Cleared a +14 so i'll have enouigh to get a 400 next week
sick sentinel
I mean, it's super personal right
knotty wagon
kk ty
sick sentinel
I only like scrolling combat text because it gives my screen some flavor
warm plinth
I don't use my combat text, but I feel weird without it
sick sentinel
But i can understand why people would hate it
honest canopy
Now sleep โฟ
warm plinth
It just lets me know my shit connected or something I guess
sick sentinel
can get annoying and a bit cluttery
but I would not be able to play in your setup at all ๐คฃ
winter aspen
Do you use anything to signal reaping ?
sick sentinel
DBM
DBM for literally everything
I head bobsalami say
if not my brain
"riseeeeeee"
winter aspen
Ah my dialog is off lol
sick sentinel
or a weak aura
U tend to keep track of a lot of timers when u know every cd timer
wait
or at least I have
I have a really nice weak aura
it does not show in the screanshot
I would use WA if I never pvp'd as i did when I was younger
I mean, I use a weak aura that says "this current pull will bring you to X %"
and if that is reaping it also says that
winter aspen
That sounds nice
sick sentinel
Angry keystone's shows reaping %
Right next to the forces % bar
yeah but it doesn't say how much this current pull will get you to
winter aspen
Id rather get a wa over another addon tbh
sick sentinel
I have said the "this is probably reaping" too many times
and then end up at 79.94%
Gotta math better
Or just say fuck it
this helps a lot dude
once you start using it
like up it in the a corner
I could imagine, I won't deny it is useful to a lot of people, but for me its more a distraction since it's just telling me what I already know
winter aspen
Can you dm it to me @sick sentinel im on my phone lol
sick sentinel
and make it small I guess
winter aspen
Thx man
primal crypt
@oblique garnet where's your Vers at?
oblique garnet
0
Went with 0% vers set
gonna try bunch of different strats
One with haste/crit one with haste/mastery one with /haste vers
oblique garnet
Feelsbadman
the tournament realm character is almost the same ilvl as my main
legit only 1 ilvl ahead
sick sentinel
0 vers is pog
willow scarab
sick sentinel
make sure you use the ring+cloak set during atal dazar and kings rest
oblique garnet
its fixed
sick sentinel
it doesn't work anymore?
Hasn't it always been like that? It wouldn't work but in the world and bod
No
Last time I checked
The set was working in atal
hmm could have sworn people said it didn't when bod came out
IS PORTECION GOOD RN???
Can you stop using caps lock
In both channels
Yes
sweet kettle
winter aspen
Lmao that name and pic
oblique garnet
@primal crypt from brief testing i had the versatility set seems to be performing best -> biggest claps
winter aspen
I have 10% vers, should be good then
sick sentinel
Wait vers bring bigger claps?
oblique garnet
the tournament realm set i had yes
vers set had bigger claps
56k claps where as with mastery it was 52k
im talking about crit claps tho
oblique garnet
3x BoM 3x DC kage
primal crypt
all haste/vers
winter aspen
Isnt mastery devalued by bastion ?
sick sentinel
Oh
winter aspen
You get like a shitload already
sick sentinel
Mastery gets better the more you have of it
primal crypt
yeah, it's just not enough
on the tourney realm
to outweight the vers I dont think
some of these pieces have massive vers
sick sentinel
Oh my god I wanna get in the tournament realm
But I didn't sign up
For fucks sake
oblique garnet
unlucky
sick sentinel
TY
oblique garnet
@primal crypt seems that we cant play together ;_; the realms are separate
sick sentinel
I LIKE MY NAM 2
oblique garnet
I mean what does it say for you when you choose the realm?
Mythic dugeon invitational west NA? @primal crypt
oblique garnet
I guess we are just not destined to play together ๐ช
oblique garnet
Today
orchid token
i guess they havent finished sending emails yet
oblique garnet
Did your team signup correctly
And the 5 dungeons you timed needed to be done with 5 same characters and roles
oblique garnet
Huh
warm plinth
? Going on with what?
orchid token
we're APAC
oblique garnet
Ah
orchid token
maybe theyu didnt send apac emails..
oblique garnet
Probably
West got theirs today
@primal crypt ayy lmao siege is not part of the time trials rotation
orchid token
avoiding facton bullshit maybe
sick sentinel
I want the first and final keystone's to be UR tyrn
oblique garnet
Necrotic is w/e
orchid token
its w/e for the players, but viewers dont seem uch
warm plinth
Explosive all day every day
orchid token
i like the idea of putting on a good show
although that same logic will lead explosive to be very common so
maybe i hate myself
orchid token
the last event the most common affixes seemed to be explosive, quaking, and bursting
warm plinth
Bursting is easily the dumbest one to include imo. It's the most limiting of the affixes; at least explosive you have control over the orbs somewhat.
orchid token
idk i think bolstering is more limiting than bursting
you handle both the same way - kill things at the same time
but bursting at least has the ability to fix a pull with mismatched hp
bolstering you're just boned
warm plinth
Yeah but if you kill everything at once during bolstering, you win. If you kill everything at once with bursting, you still have umpteen stacks to contend with
stoic pilot
I personally donโt mind bolstering too much
warm plinth
Bolstering is a semi-non-issue if you handle priority targets properly
stoic pilot
Some dungeons does suck though
oblique garnet
Bolster makes siege a joke tho
stoic pilot
ML, rats in freehold (lol doesnโt matter how many times Iโve told DH to not eyebeam on pull)
Can the spotter kill the dude who repairs the cannon in siege?
potent anvil
that's been fixed
oblique garnet
Has it?
potent anvil
yeah
oblique garnet
So you can just place the circle on the guy no worries?
potent anvil
done a 20, he doesnt take dmg anymore. only affects hostile targets
stoic pilot
Thatโs awesome
potent anvil
well hostile npc's or players i should say
stoic pilot
For the bolstered spotter strat do you just not use it to kill trash until the immune mobs are dead before 3rd boss?
Like commanders and stuff
potent anvil
for the most part yeah. you bolster it with monkeys instead. but im sure ppl have done it differently
oblique garnet
play the first spotter
make it massive
kill everything
stoic pilot
Would you kill the trash before 3rd boss before bolstering him?
And then just leave him up during 3rd boss / last Iโm assuming?
Bolstering with monkeys seems a lot easier than using 3rd boss trash since it always ends up getting fucked with commander getting mega bolstered
orchid token
@potent anvil that must have been fixed literally today
because I did a Siege 21 last night and he took dmg
it was only one hit and he lost about 10% hp
but it still hurt him
potent anvil
oh really? i dunno he didnt die at all and he took a hit. but i wasnt paying too much attention to it. maybe he has iframes from entering the cannon as an artillery dropped or something. i just figured he's immune
oblique garnet
@potent anvil you gotta place the rings outside of the tentacles radius if you put it on top of them it used afaik die
potent anvil
hmm, what do i know. i always hated spotter shenanigans lol
orchid token
bolstering he does stupid high dmg
but its not bolstering
so hes not as buffed as he might otherwise be
oblique garnet
If you bolster the first spotter you can breeze through the part after first boss in mere minutes
sage spindle
anyone in NA?
oblique garnet
Not like this
sick sentinel
knotty wagon
Overwhelming power, Lifespeed, or earthlink?
oblique garnet
OP
knotty wagon
Even for defense?
knotty wagon
Fair enoguh ty
heavy locust
winds of war + moment of glory
or
shimmering haven + impassive visage?
mostly for M+ other primary traits are equivalent. what u think is best?
tired cove
do you wanna be seflish or do you wanna help your grp
basically is the extra health from shout more valuble for your grp or is the self healing more better for you
how high of keys are you doing or is this raiding ?
orchid token
@oblique garnet
oblique garnet
y
heavy locust
majestico mostly low keys 10-15 i usually dps the big keys. but i wanna scrap one of these pieces.
sage spindle
this fucking dk tank from azalon fuck up my key
tired cove
@heavy locust then i would go shimmering+visage
heavy locust
cool thx:)
tired cove
np buddy
honest frigate
Hey sometimes I die while spell reflecting cyclone strike. Is there a way to make sure I reflect all of them or no?
It wasn't jolt btw
just other cyclone strikes
tired cove
if it's targeting you, you can't SR it from my understanding and doing it
oblique garnet
^
weary thorn
Cyclone can't be targeting you and you need to standing inside adderis' character model
astral crystal
almost 1800 boiz pepega
not really pushing this season, just having fun with the guildies
sage spindle
im happy at 1k...
dense flame
High keys can be rewarding gameplay. I think itโs the same as mythic raiding reward
Mechanics, teamwork, just extra level of play
honest canopy
Yes, I get that
I dont get that its more important to get a score rather then challange yourself with engageing gameplay
With that said, my new warrior is 284 and very sad. Not sure where to start
stone imp
You do the challenging gameplay, you get the score. It's not a matter of importance.
lusty grotto
uhhh..
warm plinth
Wut
oblique garnet
TR
warm plinth
oh lmao
lusty grotto
oh
umbral forge
TR?
warm plinth
@honest canopy At 284, WQs are a great place to start for gear; you'll go up fast.
Tournament Realm, for the MDI
potent anvil
you can get crucible armor pieces on TR ๐ค and 415 uldir trinkets hmm
oblique garnet
@potent anvil not allowed
@potent anvil only pieces you can buy from the "Hub" are allowed
knotty wagon
Wait you can outright pick full bis inc titan forges?
honest canopy
Thx Gash
stone imp
You can buy 415 pieces
warm plinth
Everything is 415 on the TR I believe
potent anvil
lucky for me, im sandboxing on TR 
oblique garnet
it scales the gear to 415
knotty wagon
How about 415 like wq pieces
knotty wagon
Aew
honest canopy
Did all the WQs for gear, got few 315. I dont even remember how to pop it before i can do M0
knotty wagon
Uh, run tw
warm plinth
Well the WQs scale up to 355 or 360, dungeon WQs that give gear are 370
TW badges can buy you 350s
And they drop 350s as well I believe
knotty wagon
Tw can get you full like 365/375
warm plinth
They don't drop gear that high; that'd be a very lucky person
umbral forge
@honest canopy buy sinister glad crafted gear for a 330-350 base then do warfront.
Or tw as people suggest here
knotty wagon
Once you are like 330ilvl you can do m0
honest canopy
I cannot do the TW yet
umbral forge
Tw drop 360 base
umbral forge
Or 365
knotty wagon
Timewalking drops 365 base
warm plinth
Does it?
knotty wagon
If it timewarps to 375
umbral forge
Yeah s2
knotty wagon
Not much luck needed
oblique garnet
he cant do tw because he recently boosted his character so he needs to wait 24hours
warm plinth
Wonder why they only upped the vendor gear to 350 then; that's dumb
oblique garnet
before being able to do
knotty wagon
I did a +14fh at 360ilvl
umbral forge
Ah
knotty wagon
So im assuming like 330is enough to do m0
honest canopy
I quested to 120 quick last evening, did all wqs and the IE cap etc so i have done all the boring shit.
I could just go buy some 400 stuff on the AH
warm plinth
Yeah I skip heroic usually and go straight to mythic at 330-340
honest canopy
but that wont help me into the M0 for the azerite pices
I just need to get 330 ish
oblique garnet
Make your own groups its m0s with a tank people will join
warm plinth
You said you're alliance right Nikkj?
umbral forge
Buy sinister crafted glad from ah
knotty wagon
You dobt need azerite for m0
umbral forge
All pieces but azerite, rings & trinket
lusty grotto
do the BFA invasions too
umbral forge
Will get you to 330 ish.
lusty grotto
im doing one right now on my ally rogue
knotty wagon
Use heirlooms if you need +o is very easy
honest canopy
Aye
umbral forge
Also buy a +10 boost if you have the gold. Get enough residuum for 3x 385 azerite in cache 2morrow
umbral forge
Oooh
honest canopy
So its not that, I just wanna be efficient at the start here before ppl wake up :p
umbral forge
I know that guild. I tried to join it early bfa but relationship drama
knotty wagon
I think they are like 282 or some shit
But yeah, never be afraid to start content early, it's not bad
orz 25 minutes over time
honest canopy
Il pay a lil visit to the AH
umbral forge
Do it before wqs
knotty wagon
Most deaths happened on the 4 wipes on shark boss
oblique garnet
Depleted? smh
knotty wagon
Yeah unfortunately ๐ฆ I got trucked too hard to make decent pulls
knotty wagon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dLKBb3frHA meanwhile i just listen to this shit
umbral forge
Alliance has Stromgarde now in eu yeah?
oblique garnet
yes
knotty wagon
I feel like im the only NA girl who listens to russelat
warm plinth
Oh yeah, only 284 on heirlooms. Bummer.
knotty wagon
Should be fine
warm plinth
Idk where the hell I got 350 from
knotty wagon
TW is 365 tho at base
warm plinth
Making shit up
umbral forge
He cant
warm plinth
He can't do TW yet
He boosted and his toon isn't 24-hrs old yet
TW counts as content from previous expansions
knotty wagon
oh that sucks
warm plinth
Yep :/
honest canopy
Sabu . whats Russelat?
umbral forge
@honest canopy this is kinda obvious but make groups for FH, UR and KR.
People do them for mount
knotty wagon
Norwegian party music
umbral forge
So you can be picky
honest canopy
Yeah, it will be fine
umbral forge
Russelรฅt*
knotty wagon
effectively
knotty wagon
Jettom, i only speak english, i cant throw fancy accents
warm plinth
Learn them alt codes
knotty wagon
im super white canadian girl monolingual who loves russelat and euro
umbral forge
Its music paid for by 18 year olds to drink to as the music talks about how awesome they are and how they fuck bitches.
A class commissioned Skrillex for theirs
honest canopy
My most played song since 2k17 is a song in Russian/Dagestanian -_-
Aha
Discodunka
Eurotechno from 90s
The best
knotty wagon
Basically, its a tradition to go party bus after highschool
and they commission music or make it themselves
honest canopy
Partybus , its like the fortnite dropoff? ๐ค
knotty wagon
but like 2010-2013 was really solid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYF5X7x_cfU You got stuff like this
Think of it like the opening theme to the party of their lives.
umbral forge
My class had this https://youtu.be/Pj8yMK0VkTs
knotty wagon
๐ฎ
Jettom you can PM me as much russelat as you want
It's a bit of a pain for me to find stuff
honest canopy
Kobojsarna ๐ค
umbral forge
https://youtu.be/bw75jwXMq4k my cousin's buss had the best one.
knotty wagon
im so jelly
honest canopy
knotty wagon
that canada doesnt have that tradition
knotty wagon
@umbral forge This track is rocking i love this shit
umbral forge
Which one
knotty wagon
Sirkus kim
Why isnt russelat music popular here?
i dont get it
s3rl does commissions im suprised i dont see more s3rl tracks
umbral forge
Ah yes. Russeperioden.
I got drunk and saw girls pee into a bush.
Should have played WoW
knotty wagon
Argyros is probably my favourite group
umbral forge
I'm not that into it I'm just Norwegian.
I have a friend super into it though.
umbral forge
I will no longer offer my assistance
honest canopy
xD
First thing I said here yday was
I already regret Panda Male
So i started to google mog sets for Panda Male, all i found was #delete
knotty wagon
you should race change already
lime jay
For zanda troll, which embrace would be best? Just stick with crit or?
honest canopy
Thast why i picked it. Problem is the Prot Animations -_-
I tought I just didnt want to be Dwarf again. I know DiD is excellent, I was that before factionchangeing my other warrior to horde, But I have been Dwarf since the game started to exist....
honest canopy
Aye, Its really gucci. But I just felt I needed something else
rigid stream
When you are doing reaping and the healer doesnโt dispel ya..40 stacks of fun
Pugs are great
sick sentinel
Spell reflect and run
Or have shield wall up for reaping
Or bring a shaman/boomy if u need the space
honest canopy
+1
oblique garnet
@primal crypt yeah mastery set performs worse than vers
primal crypt
@oblique garnet Yup, I'm getting about 20% ish haste and stack a ton of Vers
so Vers heavy pieces
primal crypt
I KNOW
primal crypt
IVE BEEN SAYING
oblique garnet
WELL I DONT HAVE IT
umbral forge
I got it first week. I thought it was crap cause I hadn't really tried to understand prot warr yet
I was wrong
Or was it second week.
From the "do harlan 4 times" weekly
oblique garnet
smh we need to find a healer in TR to test stuff out
oblique garnet
in eu ๐ฆ
oblique garnet
@primal crypt versa+ mastery set no haste? ๐ค
errant shuttle
Is double DC nearly as bad as double ur for fury?
warm plinth
Double DC is fine. It's just that traits 2 and 3 aren't as good as the first one.
primal crypt
@oblique garnet I tried it, the third shield block doesnt come back properly
Need to have enough static haste for it imo
oblique garnet
@primal crypt idk i have 13 sec recharge with 5 itf stacks
primal crypt
Then we can vers/mast all day
Yeah, as long as it's high enough
That's including itf
Omg it's almost 2am
oblique garnet
nope definitely not worth
primal crypt
I have to sleep, do more tests while I sleep :)
oblique garnet
the clap cd gets too high
oblique garnet
yup
warm plinth
Can't you just substitute some haste>vers pieces until you're happy with the amount?
oblique garnet
you can
primal crypt
Yeah, but it wont be enough to make the vers/mast worth
warm plinth
Ah
oblique garnet
but overall performing the best is haste/vers
primal crypt
Just stacking higher vers is better
oblique garnet
since both benefit your offensive and defensive capabilities
primal crypt
We cant get enough mastery stacked
oblique garnet
even with full haste/mastery gear id go up to 44% mastery
without BoM
it only goes up to 83% after 3x BoM
lavish stirrup
what is the best racial zandalary for prot?
primal crypt
Yeah
oblique garnet
yeah
primal crypt
I pulled off like 1.2%
oblique garnet
it only procs on abilities
umbral forge
I went Gonk for movement speed.
primal crypt
Was only a brief testing though
Yeah, gonk is really nice
The movement speed actually makes a difference
umbral forge
Found the others underwhelming.
Yeah I get it. We're DPS with shields and all but when I'm prot I'm in a party of 5. 1-2% of my damage <<< 5% base movement speed
And when I'm not prot I do world quests where 5% movement speed is even more worth
oblique garnet
Bobsalami is really good if you have fast enough playstyle
lavish stirrup
-.-''
oblique garnet
like i avg 70 cpm on st
oblique garnet
Keep in mind that its only good in ST
in aeo its yikes
@warm plinth you about to see some spicy pulls
warm plinth
You gonna do VoDs of your TR runs?
oblique garnet
i mean its automaticly made into vods
warm plinth
Oh, is it? I don't really use Twitch much except to watch VoDs XD
oblique garnet
xD
rigid stream
He just wasnโt dispelling me
oblique garnet
@potent anvil oh no you witnessed some scuffed play xD
potent anvil
yeah i tuned in for a bit lol
oblique garnet
i did not expect unholy to do that much aoe
ionic fern
I'll come tune in as well.
umbral forge
Link please
ionic fern
Click his name->Watch
umbral forge
Where
ionic fern
Profile->Twitch on phone
umbral forge
Ohh. Cheers
ionic fern
@oblique garnet can you ping me once you actually get to doing keys? ๐
worn flint
Hello bois.. i have a little question i got a shield thats 410 ilvl. and i got a 405 ilvl shield with a socket. (its the same shield) do i use the 410 without socket or the 405 with socket? whats the value of block on shields?
ornate blade
with shield you always want ilvl
higher ilvl = higher block. You cant make that one up by a gem
worn flint
.. yeah then i was right.. my friend told me socket over ilvl ...
umbral forge
Tell your friend his conviction is that of a twig
...sorry that made sense before I wrote that.
I need sleep.
ornate blade
Socket over ilvl is rule for DPS or other gearslots than offhand for prot
and even then you want to consider loss of primary stats and armor in favour of secondaries
oblique garnet
@ionic fern probably wont get any more testing today till either my team wakes up or something else happens