Or I can have a priest and they handle all the dispels
#protection
chilly brook
warm plinth
knotty wagon
I should read the faq
undone sun
Lol
knotty wagon
and not be that guy
chilly brook
That is why it exists 🙃
knotty wagon
I'm new here, sorry friends
chilly brook
@rain tapir BLUF, play what you think looks cool and you’ll be no worse off
It’s chill @knotty wagon I just like to remind people that there is a place that could answer the question they have and possibly others that might spring to mind 😉
knotty wagon
How does reflecting bestial throw work
final mist
Pop SR before he picks you up.
shut summit
just dont take damage
knotty wagon
Does he not pick you up?
shut summit
doesnt do anything to boss
still throws you, just dont take the dmg of the actual grip
final mist
^
shut summit
melee would love that im sure
chilly brook
Omegalul
warm plinth
It was funny the first couple times it happened on Dargrul but it would get annoying fast probably.
knotty wagon
Reflecting buster cannon
chilly brook
That reminds me of Dagul SR
chilly brook
Spell reflecting the boss into the lava 40 feet away was amazing
I used to troll people so hard
warm plinth
It did get annoying though tbh
prisma ruin
Sense did you run devastator on jaina just for pure dps?
shut summit
yes
and reflecting buster cannon just deflects it
does nothing to boss, does nothing to you
prisma ruin
ahh thought i was missing something
shut summit
but consumes SR
knotty wagon
Hmm ok, is there anyting we can reflect that does damage to bosses?
shut summit
nothing in raid aside from like first 2 bosses
astral crystal
when you reflect without actually reflecting the spell for dmg it's a deflect
that's what you do to the buster cannon, deflect it
chilly brook
There’s a sheet in resources
But like off the top of my head third boss in shrine is a good example
chilly brook
3rd boss in ML pretty sure you can reflect the dot onto her
shut summit
yes
chilly brook
Can reflect cyclone strike on first boss in Seth for damage
Basically what I’m saying is there are quite a few that you can
stoic pilot
is there any way to check how much damage spell reflect did to a boss overall?
was curious how much I added on 3rd boss motherlode and then again for first boss in temple
warm plinth
Should be able to look at damage the boss did to themselves
inland mesa
why isn't galvazzt not resetting stacks of necrotic?
olive fulcrum
Is he casting/channeling
rain tapir
any zandalari in here, what loa did u pick and why? kinda thinking salami, krawga or kimbul
umbral forge
I picked Bwonsamdi since he fit my transmog the most
rain tapir
sweet
warm plinth
I have heard Kimbul does not proc often enough to be worth it.
Most like Pa'ku or Bwonsamdi will be the one we would use
likely*
umbral forge
I went fury for a 7 and this is what I got in terms of damage.
as for healing, it's over my leech at least?
rain tapir
ohh lord that is actully giga bad
umbral forge
looking over my logs it seems to do 1-2% of my total damage
rain tapir
hmm then it might not be so bad
umbral forge
on Grong it was 1.3%
On Jadefire 1.5%
warm plinth
That's probably fairly in line with most other racials outside of like the orc and troll actives
umbral forge
Regeneratin' is really nice in m+ by the way
warm plinth
Oh? How have you been using it?
umbral forge
well, for tanking I haven't found a good application this week cause Necrotic except healing up between pulls
warm plinth
Yeah that's fair
umbral forge
but as fury it's really nice to jump away and use regeneratin.
I used it on the first boss in Motherlode after a static pulse dot ran out to heal to full, tank was bad and let the golem soak coins so it hit for ~200k overall
so it saved my life
olive fulcrum
It’d be good to shockwave and regen?
umbral forge
Oh yeah for sure. Maybe jump away and regen, too
umbral forge
which is very nice
sick sentinel
If u can't get the full cast just fucking kill urself
warm plinth
actually*
sick sentinel
Like it's not hard to get it off in m+
umbral forge
also if you get the darkshore elite set /pvp elite set the feet hide the toes.
warm plinth
If it is, you'd only get 1 tick during shockwave
umbral forge
yeah its on the GCD
sick sentinel
Just let ur group get aggro
umbral forge
but like, im fury right now cause doing brawler guild
every tick is the same
I thought it was going to increase over time
warm plinth
Oh like start with a 5% tick and go up each tick until it totaled 100%?
umbral forge
Yeah that's what I thought
but it just straight up does 16% 16% 16% 16% 16% 16% healing
so if you can get 2 seconds off, that's 32% healing
or well
not 16% precisely but still
undone sun
it is on gcd
warm plinth
Is the first tick instant or after 1 second?
olive fulcrum
Feelsgoodman alliance
umbral forge
gimme 10 sec
undone sun
i would imagine 1 second in
undone sun
`` Mod Total Health Regen
Amount: +16%every 1 sec``
warm plinth
So used poorly you could actually get no healing at all from it
But when you can use it, it's pretty damn strong really
undone sun
pretty much
umbral forge
yeah
warm plinth
Do they have pretty good animations?
umbral forge
I can use it in my next brawler's fight and record it if there's an interst for it
Yeah they do
yeah after 1 second
correct
dense flame
Do you guys prefer a mw or Druid healer for m+? I feel like I prefer a solid mw.
olive fulcrum
Druid
dense flame
What makes you prefer Druid?
olive fulcrum
Between the vortex, typhoon or mass entang which are great in their own ways, IB is the biggest reason, allows me to roll CDs well and do big pulls
Cocoon is too long of a CD for me
dense flame
So I guess it’s probably on me to figure out how to interact better with a Druid healer vs mw.
umbral forge
https://youtu.be/B1QNoXj9BC4 @warm plinth
Yeah 1 second activation timer
warm plinth
I feel like you should play with what you're comfortable with and what works best with your group.
olive fulcrum
Yea, also keep in mind the top groups are using prot Druid mostly
warm plinth
Thanks Jettom
umbral forge
I don't regret it at all. I'll probably make all my characters Zandalari, they're so effin good
potent anvil
life cocoon is a very weak external. if you wanna call it that. ironbark is imo way better to use. i would call for cocoon differently than i would call ironbark in m+. even then i prefer ironbark
warm plinth
Dude they look so badass
warm plinth
I'm definitely gonna have to redo my horde warrior now 😭
undone sun
i mean cocoon is a healing booster, it wont save from bigger hits
oh wait
there is an absorb to cocoon
🙃
umbral forge
could we potentially do a regeneratin' in a life cocoon?
potent anvil
yeah, it just gets eaten by almost anything in higher keys. i dunno
dense flame
Okay. This week, just curious how you are doing large pulls and staying in to contribute a fair amount of dmg. Like for our group we have been using darkness, stun 1, save stun 2 for high necrotic stacks (20-25), then I can leap and kite.
warm plinth
It's a pretty substantial absorb; I think it would be better if the healing increase lasted regardless of the presence of the absorb though.
potent anvil
if you want to use cocoon this week in particular, probably ask for it early or at the start of a big pull. necrotic reduces its absorb so it becomes weaker the longer the pull goes
olive fulcrum
Run with ele or boomy and you’ll be able to do decent dmg whenever their things up
dense flame
I see, I can appreciate that difference in external.
warm plinth
Although either way it's pretty meh for necrotic unless you use it as Deswind described.
potent anvil
i see warr tanks do necrotic differently. when i was doing a 20 FH earlier, i usually just stay in and dps while rotating defensives. i usually just leave/kite when im at like 40-45+ stacks lol
some warr tanks would leave as early as 20 and kite
im also using a lot of crit gear with alch trinket and block to boost my parry
i get like 35%~ parry with procs, pretty nice to negate necrotic stacks
ivory light
new prot warrior so probs doesnt mean much, but at 375 in 11-13s today was leavin at like 25ish stacks, could probs do 30-40 easily if 400 ilvl
open bluff
i just stand and rotate defensives until fireblood's off cd 
warm plinth
I've always preferred the method of rotating defensives and staying in as long as possible, even before I could remove it with my racial :p
ivory light
what racial allows you to remove it?
open bluff
fireblood/stoneform
warm plinth
Stoneform/Fireblood
ivory light
oh alliance
warm plinth
Dwarf and Dark Iron Dwarf
dense flame
I guess depends on your healer. I tried doing that during a 16 FH. Worked out some pulls. Is there a way to help healer out during the high stacks? Just shield wall? Or reflect?
potent anvil
imagine not being alliance for necrotic 🤔
open bluff
or have a pally bop you and have a cancelaura macro
umbral forge
I think I have a pretty efficient way of dealing with necrotic
warm plinth
Reflect doesn't do anything since it's a bleed now.
potent anvil
my healer has an understanding...the moment he sees im at like 40+ stacks, he just gives up healing and dps's. its pretty much on me to either run or die
ivory light
at what point do you think handling 40 becomes doable lol. like I said, just started doing m+ today on prot @ 375, in 11-13s had to leave at like 20-25 stacks
open bluff
my favorite part of necrotic week is healers trying to tell me when to kite on my monk... when there's only a single mob on me
warm plinth
Well you're going to have to kite earlier if you're 375 doing a 13
Just because you're going to be taking a ton of damage
ivory light
yeah ofc, but wondeirn at what point they become a lot easier to do, thinkin like 400ish? which should be like tomorrow.
open bluff
the only "wrong" way to handle necrotic is the one where you get killed doing it
potent anvil
depends how much dmg you can mitigate. im pretty geared (417), so doesnt seem too bad. on lower keys ive went all the way to like 60 stacks and just die to the dot lol
undone sun
and since it's a bleed armor 👏 mitigates 👏 nothing 👏
warm plinth
Yeah it's a lot about feel. You need to be able to survive the DoT and any casts that get through while you're kiting. If you can, and the healer can top you up before you start getting hammered again, you did it right.
potent anvil
bleed damage 
open bluff
necrotic is ultimately down to what you and your healer(s) are comfortable with; it's usually better to start kiting earlier and have a healer tell you they've got you
warm plinth
Yeah, shield will be really important as you start doing higher keys too
open bluff
than wait too late and die
ivory light
hopin to push from 377 to maybe 400-405 tomorrow, and try some 15's
dense flame
Yeah I suppose that was why I proposed the mw/Druid preference. I was able to take higher stacks without noticing it during a run with our mw vs Druid.
warm plinth
Your block % is incredibly important, so you need a higher shield asap
ivory light
what do you mean by shield? like actual equipped shield? or health shield
warm plinth
Your actual equipped shield
warm plinth
Yikes
open bluff
and honestly, the dot isn't what's going to kill you until you're at 60+ stacks; it does pretty negligible damage
undone sun
oof
warm plinth
That's definitely not helping in the +13s XD
open bluff
the healing/absorb reduction will fuck you up first
ivory light
nah, they went surprisingly well, chested all of them. just lots of sketch pulls lol
dense flame
I appreciate the commentary boys and girls.
potent anvil
well the throughput of a monk is pretty good, they can heal you thru some 20 or so stacks of necrotic if they just tunnel you.
ivory light
hopin for maybe a 400 shield tomorrow, we'll see though.
warm plinth
🙃
ivory light
lol, ill be spammin lower keys all day with the groups tryin to grind one out, and 2 chances cause shammy in group
dark junco
Is the ''bursh it off'' passive any good ? can't math lol xD
open bluff
yes
warm plinth
Yeah it's pretty good
open bluff
it's a decent portion of your self healing
undone sun
up to you
warm plinth
Regular Draenei?
warm plinth
Yeah for sure
dense flame
Also, does anyone have a wa for external cds and stuns and like tracking players meta or major dps cds?
undone sun
racials are mostly marginal anyways
warm plinth
I'm going to on my hordie
dense flame
So I can see at a glance where my team is at.
warm plinth
I think Tehr's Raid CDs can see all that @dense flame
dark junco
I mean 2% of damage seems like a decent selfheal no ?
potent anvil
i use Tehr's RaidCDs WA to track externals/stuns. im sure there are better ones though, like zentracker or maybe even just ERT
warm plinth
You can add spells to Tehr's if you need to as well
dense flame
Thank you.
warm plinth
Yeah 2% is pretty solid. It's like an HP credit card with cash back 😂
ivory light
are there any haste %'s I should be aiming for? ATM since so low Ilvl I went with versa enchants for dmg reduction, but lookin at other prot warriors im at like 12% haste where it looks like tons are at 20s
warm plinth
Haste is a better defensive stat than vers
warm plinth
There are no breakpoints; focus on ilevel above all else. If it's equal ilevel, choose what has the most haste
ivory light
kk, so ilvl then haste. sounds good
olive fulcrum
As a pure tank haste > vers = mast > crit imo
ivory light
is ilvl always more than haste? like say 400 haste piece, or 405 no haste, or even 410 no haste
olive fulcrum
Ilvl better in almost every case
warm plinth
You can sim from a DPS perspective but typically in general, more total stats will be better than more of a specific stat.
warm plinth
Yeah
Make sure you use your brain with the sims though, as they aren't perfect yet. We do have an updated APL (not sure if it's in the weekly build but it should be in the nightly) at this point, and a lot of trinkets and azerite traits have been added.
olive fulcrum
Idk about anyone else but I personally prefer like 5 Ilvl lower if there’s better sub stats but the reasoning is that crit doesn’t necessarily lower my dmg taken so
ivory light
yeah, trinket wise atm I dont have fuckall, gonna go and get the 415 alch trinket tomorrow as it seems decent
olive fulcrum
Yea it’s generally very minute changes
Also the alch trinket is pretty good for tanks and
ivory light
thats what ive heard, which is why im gonna get at least 400 version tomorrow, wont be able to afford 415 right away.
will replace a 350 though so either way itll be huge
for the prot war az trait spreadsheet in pins, best way to calculate actual % of attacks blocked?
warm plinth
I think logs is the only way to tell that.
ivory light
also with what it says, is 2 BoM still good, or does BoM drop importance after 1?
warm plinth
BoM is sought after for the mastery mostly, not the IP, so it doesn't really lose value after the first one.
ivory light
gotcha
olive fulcrum
Most of the top warrs run 3 BoM if they can the last time I checked
potent anvil
Having 3x BoM makes avatar like a mini defensive CD. Its pretty big
olive fulcrum
3BM and 1 DC was pretty standard
warm plinth
Yeah, gives you a lot of crit block % and makes your IPs bigger via increasing your attack power.
ivory light
awesome, ive got 2 atm, but have no DC currently which is killing me
gonna run norm and heroic tomorrow to try and get a DC piece
olive fulcrum
First boss mythic drops a pretty decent piece and it’s puggable
ivory light
yeah, thatll be at end of week, I'd love to but only 377 rn lmao
warm plinth
He's only 375 so probably isn't getting into mythic any time soon
Or 377, whatever :p
ivory light
pushin 400-405 tomorrow and mythic tomorrow night/next day most likely
warm plinth
I forget how fast you can gear when you actually do content 😅
olive fulcrum
Start your own group and get carried :^)
warm plinth
My war is 384 atm but I haven't put any effort into gearing
ivory light
Was 363 couple hours ago with no intent of playin the alt, now group wants me to gear it for sellin 15's and after tankin 3 12's up to 378 lol
warm plinth
Just WQs, darkshore, that type of thing
I bet tanking a +12 at 363 with a 340 shield was fun for your healer lol
ivory light
it was super scuffed, still chested it though lmao
solid fox
Are the new races actually worth anything
warm plinth
I guess this is a pretty good week to do a dungeon undergeared since you kite anyway
ivory light
the real issue with that one was I just couldnt keep aggro for shit from our DPS lol
olive fulcrum
Monks have high af through put as long as necrotic was low
knotty wagon
Kul tirans kinda ugly, racial seems alright
warm plinth
Yeah, that would be rough
ivory light
but aside from not bein able to keep aggro on that one, and 3rd boss was just trucking me (siege), it wasnt terrible
warm plinth
What I love most about my Kul Tiran thus far is that for a large race, they aren't slow-feeling, if that makes sense.
warm plinth
Like if you play a Tauren, they feel super slow. But Kul Tirans don't have that feel to them
solid fox
Are the racials 'game-changing' in any way though?
warm plinth
Nah
ivory light
Ye, i love tauren, but havent switched to zandalari yet
solid fox
Had a look the other day, and they looked pretty cool but nothing major
ivory light
I heard zandalari have tauren sized mounts, anyone know if thats true?
warm plinth
Well technically the smaller races have larger mounts
ivory light
Gnomes/Tauren previously had largest mounts
ivory light
is there any good website/resource for finding what does physical /what does magical damage,ie when to SB /IP optimally, or just trial/error
seems like a TON is physical, so basically been keeping SB on CD, but wonderin if theres anything that really seems Phys and is magical or vice versa
warm plinth
Well, with block you have to be careful. Just because it's physical doesn't make it blockable. And just because it's magic doesn't mean it's NOT blockable.
olive fulcrum
Shrine first area is pretty shit outside of that not really anything that comes to mind where SB < IP
warm plinth
3rd and 4th boss in ML are the only other things I can think of
Since their autos are magic
ivory light
gotcha, yeah seems so far its basically SB as much as possible just since so much melee, and IP when lots of ranged/mage
but seems like a lot of times its having both SB and IP up
warm plinth
Typically you just use IP to supplement SB though. They aren't either/or type spells
olive fulcrum
Yea generally you have both up
warm plinth
Even if SB isn't useful for defensive purposes (like the situations we mentioned), it still adds to your damage
olive fulcrum
Last stand during Sb downtime with IP does the same job
ivory light
think having more haste will help a ton with having both up, noticing at 12% or so its a bit sketchy
warm plinth
The biggest reasons people tend to feel rage-starved is not using Demo Shout enough and wasting rage via IP overcapping
ivory light
really want to try for the AD trinket tomorrow, seems OP
warm plinth
With 12% you should have 27% in any normal M+ pack by being close to melee DPS and enemy mobs
Which is plenty haste to feel comfortable
olive fulcrum
^ I tend to overcap morethen being starved
warm plinth
Rezan's is very strong
ivory light
also seen couple people running devastator, is that better than booming voice now?
warm plinth
No
ivory light
kk
little herald
I got the trinket from AD this week and I can confirm it's very good
warm plinth
They're running Devastator for ST parses in raids; that's it
olive fulcrum
It’s for parses in raid
outer dew
ivory light
after reenchanting to haste/dropping 5 il on a ring for haste, adn regemming to haste, sitting comfortable at 20% haste
38% with the 5 people around
ivory light
18 crit/20 haste/5 vers big rip, 21 mastery
rough egret
Heh
warm plinth
I really wouldn't concern myself with where your secondaries are at if I were you
It's an easy trap to fall into that doesn't really have a point
ivory light
atm only 2 pieces dont have haste lol, but doesnt mean anything since im 378 rn and replacing everything tomorrow anyways
rough egret
Im at 20haste,13crit,2vers,40mastery :D
warm plinth
What enchant is on your weapon btw?
ivory light
quick nav
warm plinth
Ok good
I was thinking because you had the vers gems you may have done the vers enchant as well
Er, vers enchants
ivory light
had no enchant on wep, just got it last key i did
warm plinth
Ah
ivory light
400 socketd FeelsGoodMan
ivory light
bigwigs decent for tanking? havent used DBM in ages, but also havent tanked raids in a while lol, just m+, last I tanked DBM was still better for raids
open bluff
they're both fine; bigwigs isn't as in your face as dbm
ivory light
alrighty, then i stick with the better bossmods
open bluff
the main thing with bigwigs is you need a separate addon (littlewigs) for dungeons
ivory light
yeah, I use littlewigs for m+, jsut wasnt sure how good bw was for raid tanking
open bluff
personally i prefer bigwigs because it's less annoying and the bigwigs voice pack will actually call out ability names instead of just toss up a sound effect when something's coming
which is a big game changer in m+
undone sun
+1 for bigwigs
solid fox
Anyone got a quick IP weakaura that isn't buggy as shit?
modest wedge
anyone switching to kul tiran humans for what sweet hps?
ionic fern
It's not that big - checked logs yesterday.
It's constantly there but nothing marginal.
sick sentinel
hey guys i've got a question about a skip in sots..... my group tried it several times the last 2 weeks but it's not working -.- we want to skip the second living current group (2 casters + living current just down the second stairs) we dont have a shroud. we tried walking on the wall the farest away from tis group but after 2 people passed through the living current just gets teleported inside our group -.-
is the skip only possible with invis/shroud ?
modest wedge
you can just skip it by walking through the torch on the stairs - opposite side ofc
jumping between rocks and torchs is the way
sick sentinel
we tried cuddling the torch but moving at the stairs
thanks! we got sots again yesterday and will test it today 😃
modest wedge
@ionic fern 56.6k almost 100% uptime and 2 minute fight... yeah not worth it
Yes, u must not touch the stairs its in the aggro area
ionic fern
As i said..constantly there but pretty marginal.
ivory light
Zandalari any good racials for us? Debating swapping from Highmountain
specifically for M+
sick sentinel
zandalari racial will break even if you got a dot on you, afaik
honest frigate
We still take 5 ilvls over socket+leech correct?
ivory light
ye i was thinkin more if any of the Loa's were good
ionic fern
Nothing too big @ivory light racials are not ment to be "uber-duber strong".
I don't know if Kimbul stacks on AoE but Bwomsandi is only a ST one for example.
crisp pecan
SO good to stick to paku
orchid token
is there any good sources for what damage is blockable, like there is for whqt's reflectable/
for example - big brute aoe in KR? blockable?
ionic fern
Only for m+ bosses and some general info - nothing for trash afaik.
for your specific example @orchid token
neon tangle
@ivory light there are no particularly broken racials on the horde side
Meld and fireblood are arguably pretty broken though
mossy narwhal
Wow the 2 good racials on alliance side
orchid token
LFD racial also pretty great for damage, regular dwarf just as good as stoneskin
human stun removal or gnome snare removal also pretty useful in some situations
mossy narwhal
Every horde racial is good though unless i have forgotten a bad one
Ofc the dwarf one is good, nelf one is useful in some situations but broken? Just look at how useful the belf one is lol
orchid token
I would take meld, stoneskin, fireblood, or LFD over any of the horde racials
mossy narwhal
Id take belf
orchid token
belf is situationally great but not very general purpose
mossy narwhal
You can dispel at will. That is amazing
orchid token
amazing for things you need to dispel, sure
some dungeons dont have a single thing to dispel
mossy narwhal
There are quite a lot
orchid token
and in some the things you need to dispel arent particularly benefical to be able to
mossy narwhal
My warr has fireblood and the bonus to strength is probably OTT but whatever 😆
orchid token
idk, I did keys on my belf warrior for a long time before making it kul tiran with this sale
arcne torrent is overrated
ivory light
I'd take the only horde racial that matters, not shit pugs
orchid token
classic example, kings rest
those little shadow dudes
torrenting those feels super good
ivory light
and actual population that is able to do content and be competent
orchid token
but in terms of real actual impact on the success of the dungeon is almost nonexistent
there's little difference between torrenting them and just using zerker rage to shockwave them and the group hits them once each and they pop
the only three uses I found for it that I thought "fuck this is amazing" is water bubbles in tol dagor, bone shields in underrot, and most of shrine
mossy narwhal
I mean, you can purge the watery dome on mobs in tol which is nice. A few things to dispel and it is useful but because i don't have it i cannot list them
orchid token
everywhere else i'd put it solidly below LFD racial because more damage is always nice while dispelling is not always useful
orchid token
like torrenting the KR adds probably saves you, what, 5 seconds vs just zerker rage + burst them down
you save that much by being able to meld skip along with your healer instead of having to die
mossy narwhal
Them again, 5 secs can be a failed key 🙄
orchid token
sure, but like i said, shadowmeld saves that
mossy narwhal
Not with these new timers tho
orchid token
LFD will save much more than that in DPS alone
mossy narwhal
I still miss my bull rush 😆
Not sure how much dmg LFD deal when they die. It says they explode dealing holy dmg
ionic fern
They deal quite a bit.
I can't find the logs for it right now but if you hit a ton of enemies with it you deal a ton of dmg.
😂
Not that it matters since it's a wipe then.
crisp pecan
already went 1.8->1.9 on my rio
yesterday only
i hate raiding, doing this only for gear
meh
mossy narwhal
I mean if there is a bres free i'd just write it off as a way to increase dps 😆 i meant to do it guys i swear
umbral forge
How do you guys start pushing keys?
What pushes you to go from "a weekly 10" to higher keys?
Best I've done is a Tol Dagor 12 on time. I'd like to start pushing proper
orchid token
just start doing them
theres no magic process
you do them and if you fail you work out why you failed, if there was something you could have done to prevent it you learn for next time, and you try again
ivory light
what 2 prof's you guys think are best for 415s? thinkin alch trinket and blacksmith
ionic fern
I'm just a really competitive person and i wanna better myself...+ it's the only thing i actually enjoy doing a lot in WoW atm.
@umbral forge
crisp pecan
@ionic fern you raid as well?
ionic fern
Jeap.
crisp pecan
But i bet you like m+ more
ionic fern
Yes i do.
Gonna start pushing again this week - took the weekend off.
Wanna hit atleast 2.2-2.3k
crisp pecan
i have such a hard time raiing recently, im like forcing myself to do so
ionic fern
I mean..i don't have anything against raiding..i just prefer m+
It's much easier to fix problems with 5 people than it is with 20 people.
😂
modest wedge
does engineering new uber -tools of trade item work in dungeons?
umbral forge
My issue is
We do a key. We have a competent group, a balance druid, havoc Demon Hunter, outlaw Rogue, prot warr (me) and Resto Druid.
We do a +10. It 2 chests.
I go to the toilet and I come back, suddenly the good Rogue left and we have one of the guild DPS with us. "For weekly".
After that run where the guild DPS asspulls, doesn't interrupt and dies a lot and we fail the key, we have a +10 again.
But the guild DPS wants to stay. Now the Druid left. I try to leave. "Just one more! For weeky :)))"
"Ugh I hate pugging, let's ask in the Guild"
And suddenly we're a Fury Warrior, Prot Paladin, Guardian Druid, Retri Paladin and Holy Priest 2 hours into a Waycrest 10 at 111 wipes and I don't want to do m+ again in my life.
For a day.
ivory light
I like guildies, I like pushing, theres certain guildies I wont run with, call me a dick, I dont care its my key not theirs
crisp pecan
- because i have shitty personality 2) they have too low experience
umbral forge
I try. But with quick join they see it. And they ask. And if I turn them down I'm toxic
ivory light
Add people at the end of good keys and run with them
who cares if youre toxic
just tell them youre trying to push the key
crisp pecan
@honest frigate i have 410 weapon and 405 weapon with leech socket - i use 405
ivory light
and want an optimal group, or an excuse, doesnt matter
ionic fern
That's the thing tho.
If you're going to push - you need a consistent group. Add everyone who's semi-decent until you find people whos playing time matches with yours.
Regarding guildies & freeloaders - just tell them "We are pushing right now". .
I have guildies asking to join higher keys all the time but i just decline them since :
1)They have not put the effort in to learn the mechanics/dungeons
2)They expect a full carry
3)I don't want to spend my pushing hours boosting people.
hollow thorn
They shouldn't get free boosts because they are guildies
ionic fern
I usually help guildies with the "weekly 10" on tuesdays.
Other than that i just turn them down.
crisp pecan
@ionic fern well said, and i dont give a fuck they moan afterwards, i worked hard key by key to get my rank
ionic fern
There's a ton of people at around 1-1.3k who are like "Oh, i've done a +12 so i can easily do a +19" while not understanding that the mechanics that you can safely stand in on a +12 just straight out one shots you on a +19.
And you can't afford mistakes like that on higher keys.
crisp pecan
sae with selfhealing ability of dps, all of utilities etc
but well, you understand this from 15+
ionic fern
Running with a rogue in KR Tyrannical without Elusiveness talent just makes me wanna kms
"Oh, i have a talent that makes me take 35% reduced damage from the first boss/2nd/3rd boss abilities...nah, won't use it fuck that".
sick sentinel
For m+ is it okay to just use use simulations to determine which gear to equip or do i have to build around survivability more? If so how do i do that apart from stacking armor?
ionic fern
It depends how comfortable you are.
ivory light
you have to balance survivability and damage, which you can figure best by practice/eventually just knowing what youre comfortable with
ionic fern
If you are not worried about dying in keys then just go full on DPS.
sick sentinel
Im pretty new to tanking and warrior in general have like 900 score on it only kind of hard to know what to focus tbh
ivory light
are you struggling staying alive?
if so, survivability, if not, damage.
keep flip flopping till youre at just enough survivability, with max damage for the key level you want
ionic fern
@sick sentinel what traits you are wondering about? We can hopefuly help you figure out the best setup considering your experience.
knotty wagon
@umbral forge I use my keys, and have boundaries.
knotty wagon
I limp shitty people through keys on sunday / morning
Nice 😮
im pretty mediocre, cant wait to start keys on warrior
sick sentinel
@ionic fern Its not specific traits more stats i assume i want to stack Deafening Crash no?
ionic fern
For m+ you want to stack BoM.
crisp pecan
ToS 19 is not that ez on tyrannical - 3rd boss
ionic fern
And atleast ONE DC for the extended Demo shout + damage increase.
Talking from pure AoE DPS point of view you want to go 3xBoM/3xDC.
knotty wagon
How hard do you guys think it'll be to start doing keys?
hollow thorn
if u play prot, not that hard
knotty wagon
I play BDK rn, but i hate the class, I wanna swap
ionic fern
It all depends if you have a consistent group or not.
hollow thorn
Swap then
knotty wagon
Im working on it
I have two +14 FH this week and i dont want to do it
I just don't enjoy BDK, had to switch for a previous guild
crisp pecan
ML - EZ AD - Super ez Boralus - EZ
topaz badger
Mythic Grong, do you guys do the main tanking or do you get thrown? I just die if I get thrown 😐
crisp pecan
this week
ionic fern
It's a game..play what you want. 😃
sick sentinel
sorry what is BoM short for?
undone sun
bastion of might
sick sentinel
ty
topaz badger
switch on weekly? :p
ionic fern
One week i get to parse on Grong and my co-tank takes all throw
The other week we switch it around
topaz badger
but which defensive do you use for the throw?
umbral forge
SR
undone sun
you can reflect the dot
oblique garnet
External
ionic fern
The thing with being thrown on Grong is:
1)SR EVERY grab
2)Tell your healers that they need to focus heal you if you have a bleed on you as well since you have to be atleast 80% hp before hitting the ground
undone sun
ionic fern
If you have double bleed ask for BoP
@undone sun you can't reflect the DoT, you can reflect the grab
topaz badger
my mate is a monk, they seems to have alot easier time to heal him when he's thrown
undone sun
hmmm
ionic fern
Wait, there's two DoT's, guess you talking about the grab ticking dmg.
😂
I was talking about the bleed.
ionic fern
The throw is only deadly if you have a bleed on you as well - then you require healing.
And remember that the impact when you hit the ground is NATURE dmg so you can't mitigate it properly.
Hence why you need to tell your healers to get you above 80% before you hit the ground.
topaz badger
hmm ok
ionic fern
If you have any logs we can go over them.
topaz badger
ye
umbral forge
I'm heroic guild.
I convinced my co-tank there was a super cheese tactic for prot warriors/Brewmasters where I take Grong and he takes the throw cause "I can zerker rage the fear".
Am I a bad person for this?
ionic fern
You can't do that to the fear anymore @umbral forge
umbral forge
Thats good info incase i try pugging Grong. Thank
sick sentinel
So about stats do i really want haste over armor always?
topaz badger
first I was taking the boss and mate was taking the throws, then we switched around, you can see exactly where xD
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wVABtZr6XM2vGHdg/
hollow thorn
Ilvl > all
ionic fern
For stats it's ilvl->all
sick sentinel
oh thats convenient
What about on rings tho? I have a crit vers ring with socket if i get a haste ring no socket same ilvl would i replace?
topaz badger
socket has more stats :p
ionic fern
Checking Wipe 14 @topaz badger you had bleeds on you both times you got thrown , also you only reflected one throw.
topaz badger
yeah, possibly
undone sun
depends on the item slot, i wouldn't drop ilevel on a shield for a socket
topaz badger
didn't know it could be reflected up to a few tries later
ionic fern
If you have 1 stack of the bleed - yell at healers to top you.
If you have 2 stacks of bleeds - Ask for BoP to remove it.
If you're only taking throws you can clearly see from your HP where you fucked up and/or had bleeds.
THat's my HP when i took all throws.
The places where i dropped low was when i had bleeds+throw.
ionic fern
On wipe 18 you also diddn't reflect all the grabs.
But the best thing you can do is be vocal about externals and inform your healers that if you have a bleed on you while being thrown you need to get focus healed or BoP'ed.
Not much you can do about it yourself other than reflecting the initial grab.
topaz badger
ye, first time mythic raiding, it's all a bit more serious I guess :p
topaz badger
Where do I find that graph you linked the picture of?
undone sun
resources
ionic fern
Select yourself from the "Friendlies" then click ->Resources
topaz badger
thx ^^
oblique garnet
Get that monk thrown
sick sentinel
Is there any good weakaura to display if a cast is spellstealable?
spellreflect*
and maybe even show if you spellreflected and for how much?
ionic fern
The numbers you can check from logs only afaik
Regarding "what can be reflected WA" ->Check the pins
oblique garnet
Marok made a weakaura that has bosses casts that can be reflected
It should be in the pins
topaz badger
oh 😮
sick sentinel
Nice has anyone bothered to add trash casts aswell?
hollow thorn
Pretty much any targeted cast cna be reflected
except if its shoot
just use logic
Sea Blast, Water bolt etc all spell reflectable
knotty wagon
WHat are your thoughts on crackling thunder vs bounding stride?
oblique garnet
Eh
sick sentinel
i guess in pugs i just use spellreflect if a cast is on me and most of our group has interrupt on cd then?
ionic fern
Crackling Thunder is very viable, especially in m+.
@knotty wagon
It should be pretty much the go-to talent for m+ in most scenarios.
Don't think i've ever actually swapped out of it tbh
knotty wagon
^^ thanks
ionic fern
On a side note..on Conclave Crackling Thunder actually lets you hit Akunda with TC even if she's casting Thundering Storm.
sudden gazelle
Guys whats the go to loa buff as a zandalari?
Took the bwonsamdi one but its a bit lackluster
For tanking mind you
undone sun
racials aren't meant to be spectacular
sudden gazelle
Indeed
knotty wagon
Dwarf is really good
Dark iron dwarf is really good
and uh, night elf
is nice
Nelf makes easy deathskips
undone sun
for their actives, yes
knotty wagon
others lets you abuse debuffs
sudden gazelle
Maybe the bleed is the best, for damage?
undone sun
while zandalari still has a good active
regeneratin
the loas are different, very minor
chances are paku or bobs are the choices
old night
I'm wondering if KT is better than Dark Iron because of Brush it off. Should I reroll? Hmm 🤔
Fireblood so strong
sudden gazelle
I went zanda because of the looks, as tauren many things looked so fucking out of place :D
knotty wagon
Question about kul tiran
does the 2% damage taken over 4s
stack
like every instance of damage will heal the damage
or does it reset every time you take damage
undone sun
pretty sure it stacks
knotty wagon
okay, seems really alright 1% vers + 2% damage reduction (effectively)
undone sun
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PrvZ1aQwDkq47Gx6#fight=22&type=auras&source=4&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24healing%240%240.0.0.Any%24133396596.0.0.Druid%24true%24133396596.0.0.Druid%24false%24291843^0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%24133396596.0.0.Druid%24false%24291843&view=events https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DLFzyKMCBcRaWTrw#fight=22&type=auras&source=26&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24healing%240%240.0.0.Any%24153493034.0.0.Druid%24true%24153493034.0.0.Druid%24false%24291843^0%24Separate%24%23909049%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%24153493034.0.0.Druid%24false%24291843&view=events
two logs with it
buffs and healing pinned
sick sentinel
Between Diamond-Laced Refracting Prism ilvl 370, Rezan's ilvl 385 (w/ socket) and Alchemy ilvl 415 trinkets, which 2 would you guys recommend for M+? I think Prism is super even though it's 370 but not sure if maybe replace Rezan's with Alch trinket?
umbral forge
Do you use healing potions often
ionic fern
@sick sentinel i'd go with Rezans/Alch
Unless you feel like you're taking too much damage and/or are not that familiar with the class yet - then you can go with Diamond as well.
undone sun
what's the reasoning for private logging
ionic fern
😦
Feels bad.
My guild has such terrible kill timers that we kill Opulence right before 3rd set of adds. 😢
Like yesterday it died right when it finished the cast.
😂
umbral forge
Raid & guild leaders think that if they private log people will focus less on dmg done and more on mechanics
undone sun
🤣
austere oar
How the fuck do you 18k conclave without 100% hitting the boss that's gonna die ?
ionic fern
They fixed that for tanks ages ago.
You can hit both bosses and it still counts it.
Even if you 100% hit the boss that isn't going to die it still counts it.
austere oar
Oh damn didnt notice
vital plover
Which of the loa buffs would you guys pick for tanking? The obvious tank buff or one of the DPS buffs?
ionic fern
Afaik Bwomsandi/Pa'ku are the go to for people right now.
crisp pecan
sticking to paku, yep
open field
Crit? But the heal seems so good for tanks or are the numbers for bwomsamdi that bad?
ionic fern
The heal is minimal - racials will not make or break your performance.
austere oar
Bwonsamdi is around 2.2% of your dps ST
oblique garnet
^
hollow thorn
@willow scarab I got 3 private rank 1s yesterday 🤷
hollow thorn
I can still screenshot my parses so its fine
oblique garnet
Oh yeah youre getting rank 1s n such because its new patch
willow scarab
Exactly
hollow thorn
Gotta get em while its easy
willow scarab
That's why it's the funnest week to get them
oblique garnet
Eh
willow scarab
I love me a rasta rank 1
with only 91 warriors as competition
That's funny to me
ionic fern
I'll come make it 92 tonight.
Guild went full mong yesterday and we wiped on Opu for no apparent reason for like a hour while it's been a one-two shot most of the other weeks.
😒
oblique garnet
I miss raiding
hollow thorn
@oblique garnet Dont you push with a Arms warrior called Xentar?
oblique garnet
Lul
willow scarab
Is arms as competitive as fury?
steady dragon
Does demo shout not redice the dmg intake of bonswamdi's dot?
hollow thorn
Fury is better
steady dragon
looking at logs it doesn't, which just seems odd to me
brazen whale
bwonsamdi's dot source is "environment" not bwonsamdi himself
sturdy trench
the fury is better argument is rather vague
on aoe arms is far better
probably one of the best aoe specs
and with reaping u have infinite rage generation with war machine
eager hedge
Has everyone gone zandalari troll for tanking 😮 i would feel so bad leaving war stomp behind, aswell as my big grong shoulders (:
crisp pecan
😄
sturdy trench
taurens are so meme
im not missing being huge
at least now i can dodge cross fire ignition in told agor
eager hedge
I use noggen for that
crisp pecan
haahaa this one, especially during avatar
eager hedge
Also on 1st boss in tos
eager hedge
🤔
crisp pecan
"Also on 1st boss in tos"
eager hedge
5 cyclone is not deadly 🤔
stoic pilot
Spell reflect it like a champ
hollow thorn
@sturdy trench Fury is better, and it doesnt sound like you know much about Fury and Arms strengths and weaknesses. Arms is good at BURST AoE, Fury is good at Consistant AoE
stoic pilot
I played LFD for a while and I can understand how annoying it is to be huge, Paladin divine steed didn’t work in literally any hallway
So that’s good zandalari and kul’tiran aren’t so big it’s annoying
full monolith
@stoic pilot i am new to prot and experienced that you cannot reflect cyclone all the time. is it not reflectable when it targets me?
stoic pilot
If it targets someone else, you walk in front and reflect
If it’s on you, dodge
Face it away from the group so you can tell easier
tidal scarab
Bastards nerfed the cyclone just to fuck with prot warriors
full monolith
Aight 😄 thanks!
stoic pilot
If boss flips, you can reflect, if not dodge.
When you reflect cyclone strike does it actually get rid of the projectiles from it? Or do they still exist / can hit other people
sick sentinel
Hey warrior bros, are you guys familiar with that underrot mastery trinket with an on use str buff?
vial of animated blood
stoic pilot
I love mine
tidal scarab
Got a 415 from weekly, good for meme parses
stoic pilot
I use it with every other avatar
sturdy trench
always with avatar
ionic fern
It lines up with every other avatar,
stoic pilot
Warrior is so tanky you don’t really need to use it during last stand imo
So just use it for pure dps
full monolith
Do you see any reason for using that rasta trinket? the cheat death one. I feel safer when pugging keys... but should get rid of that I guess :/
ionic fern
No - no reason to use it.
stoic pilot
^
sick sentinel
whats it called? i didnt know there was a cheat death trink!
ionic fern
You're a tank..you don't plan on dying. 😒
tidal scarab
Actually got it 425 last night, use it on high keys that might kill me off randomly. Saves me from retarded dots and fucked up reaping smashes
ionic fern
If you get killed off randomly then it's downtime in your AM on higher keys.
And you can plan around that.
full monolith
smashes look synced since 8.1.5 for me aswell
stoic pilot
Also threat on reaping nameplates is ❤
full monolith
^it is? I switched to plater as it managed the aggro kinda good alrdy
tidal scarab
Threatplates at least are fixed
wide girder
got 425 prizm yesterday, 27% selfheal, love it
full monolith
will stick to plater from now 😄 so much cleaner than elvui imo
stoic pilot
Default nameplates have fixed threat yes
oblique garnet
so do the new elvui ones
sick sentinel
I heard spellreflect it broken on 1st boss underrot and 1st boss temple
I assume its any cast in underrot you can spellreflect
What can you do on 1st boss temple?
gust
stoic pilot
Cyclone strike, not gust.
sick sentinel
i was in underrot today i dont think you can reflect any spell?
stoic pilot
I reflected Cyclone just fine on first boss
stoic pilot
Not sure of actual values, around 13% hp
wide girder
it can be reflected only if you are not a target
oblique garnet
you can also reflect gust
hollow thorn
^
sick sentinel
jolt targets randomly though no?
hollow thorn
Yes
sick sentinel
do you guys ever look at meters to see your ignore pain / sheild block uptime?
if so what is it roughly?
oblique garnet
from raids or m+?
sick sentinel
m+
stoic pilot
Any recommendations on nameplate addons for tanking? Getting stacked nameplates when one mob does something deadly you have to kick is annoying
oblique garnet
i have elvui
sick sentinel
tidy threat plates is my favorit
red if no aggro, green when you have aggro, yellow if youre going to lose aggro
and even with big pulls im able to click casting mobs and kick em
even my guildheal is using it, as its perfect for kicking ^^
stoic pilot
have you had fps drops with it at all @sick sentinel ? or nothing
stoic pilot
going to try that one out, it looks nice ty
sick sentinel
even pulling sots first room + 2 caster an droplets outside together
your welcome 😄
@sick sentinel After this recent update my threatplates are a bit fucked it seems its something between stacking and overlapping but it just doesnt feel the same anymore - you experienced this too?
my group didnt do any dungeons since 8.1.5 our m+ day is usually thursday. we raided yesterday and i was dd with that threatplate addon and didnt had any stacking or overlapping issues on trash
worked the same as before 8.1.5 for me
maybe delete and reinstall the addon ? my healer hadnt any issues with that addon too
indigo lichen
Double check the setting in the regular wow settings, under names probably there's a drop down for stacked and overlapping I think?
lime mantle
For m+ bonded souls post nerf or shield slam trait?
sick sentinel
@indigo lichen Neither overlapping nor stacked soom to make it work as it did before
indigo lichen
Hmm weird
royal marsh
Can anyone say if Fireblood clears the Kimbul tank dot?
royal marsh
Ok, was contemplating bringing my warrior to Conclave instead of my DK for that reason
Thanks
round vortex
SUPER helpful during say a paku's wrath
i try to save it for there to reduce damage as much as possible
astral crystal
stoneform should remove it as well no?:
man if they make earthen playable im done with the horde
late cedar
Stoneform works
sick sentinel
@sick sentinel if you use weak auras to track cds/ip/sb then you don't have to look at uptime
If you are not using weak auras, you should
Also you can see what is reflectable in the spreadsheet in #268491842637660160
@stoic pilot the cyclones still go through you after you reflect them
stoic pilot
thanks!
sick sentinel
@eager hedge I know that @oblique garnet went zandalari from belf
eager hedge
Never been belf. Been playing Tauren ever since wotlk. So used to having war stomp available to me.
Was tempted to go highmountain for that bit extra damage mitigation
oblique garnet
hm?
sick sentinel
How's the change, late?
oblique garnet
Gotta get used to the big ass model
was hmt before being belf
but overall
minor damage increase in st
eager hedge
left hmt for belf?
sick sentinel
Because of mplus probs
eager hedge
Haha 😄
sick sentinel
Lol
eager hedge
Yeah
oblique garnet
not even kidding
when you went to drustvar with mount on and tried to get to the flightmaster you always got stuck in the fucking roofs
eager hedge
Also the bridges in Zandalar you cant run over with mount due to those frames on em
I always use whistle, cus cba running up that thing
I always fly off into the water
eager hedge
I noggen that boss
sick sentinel
The selling points for me are 3 things
Rampage animation
Thunderclap animation
Revenge animation
I've only seen thunderclap and it's good
knotty wagon
How accurate is icy veins for prot traits
astral crystal
it's written by the admin
narrow abyss
Very
astral crystal
so pretty accurate
knotty wagon
It seems like it just wants to make me a conplete wall
astral crystal
admin of this discord**
there's reasoning given for all trait choices iirc, just read through them, i THINK he explains which ones are good for dps too
but i havent looked at the page in a while
knotty wagon
And audience of icyveins isnt always the same as the people looking for much more, atleast that is what happens on every other guide
sick sentinel
It's written going 100% for survival
If you wanna do damage as well it will help a lot less
sick sentinel
well it should depend on the content you do right_
knotty wagon
Survival is a budget, as long as you meet it, i say go dps
sick sentinel
Also he has azerite veins on b tier (down from like A or S)
some times there is a reason to go full survival
But it deserves F tier
Ok look code
ionic fern
?
sick sentinel
Azerite veins for prot is super unreliable, all healing it's going to do it pad
Like when the healer leaves you with hots and goes to dps
You are either full health, or 10%
ionic fern
🤔
sick sentinel
And it is not ppm or anything, its super rng
oblique garnet
you rarely drop below 90% hp as prot in m+ unless there are interrupts that are missing or youre doing something which is heavy magical damage or kingsrest
sick sentinel
Or your stuff is down
astral crystal
🤔
oblique garnet
What kage said
knotty wagon
Hmm, looking forward to doing keys
ionic fern
Man i'd LOVE to see some logs where you barely drop below 90%
astral crystal
yeah that's overselling it a bit i think
sick sentinel
And considering we're gonna go do our shrine 20 in an hour ( monkaS btw) I think the level of keys I do it pretty good
I'm not deswind, but I have my fair share of knowledge of both high and low keys
potent anvil
Azerite veins isnt bad, but its not consistent. I much prefer a more static or consistent alternative.
sick sentinel
Proc healing is not what a tank wants
With conditions on top of it
That's why stuff like IV is super good instead
Or the diamond trinket
potent anvil
Having it proc on a large pull would be nice. Having it proc in the beginning when your hp is still 90%+ isnt great either.
Unless your healer is healing at a minimum allowing it to actually do work.
sick sentinel
If you run exclusively with a resto druid
Then it's pretty ok
But something like a monk or a paladin that tops you in a global or 2? Please no
potent anvil
It'll have its fair share on bosses where healers have to worry about everyone else. So like first boss KR or galvazzt. If it procs to actually heal you.
oblique garnet
iirc kage had 0 procs during ghuun
sick sentinel
I had a 6:30 min fight
oblique garnet
xD
potent anvil
Yeah. Thats why I'll generally default to w/e else is available like CC or a dps trait like HMC.
narrow abyss
Hrm
sick sentinel
@knotty wagon so all that being said ( 🤣 ) if you are not sure about the content you are doing I would suggest you to go full survival and then slowly introduce more and more damage in your kit
probably start by getting 3 BoM or 2 BoM and eng helm
sick sentinel
a full surv warrior will still do more damage than a bdk
knotty wagon
I'd like to fet into 15+ timed
Yeah im not even capped yet
I shouod be in 2 days
And then gearing
astral crystal
lol
sick sentinel
you can get 410 just with mplus tbh
knotty wagon
Maybe i'll raid in april, not really feeling it
knotty wagon
Yeah my bdk is 411.38 with like no reid gear
narrow abyss
Only good thing about raiding for me is the bwonsamdi
sick sentinel
shoulders from titan juice
narrow abyss
For engi helm or trinket or whatever
sick sentinel
and eng helm
narrow abyss
The breaths
knotty wagon
Oh im dumb sorry
sick sentinel
the breaths to craft
knotty wagon
Yeahh im oroply not crafting
sick sentinel
you can also get a helm with titan juice but you can craft an extremely good helm so why bother gambling
knotty wagon
I have no raid group, and i wont be making one for a couple weeks
sick sentinel
first boss mythic is puggable
knotty wagon
I have no rsid group, and building one will take time
sick sentinel
and HC is puggable
full spruce
I do pug groups on my 5 tank alts every week. It’s cheese to do
sick sentinel
5 tank alts monkaS
knotty wagon
I left guild becsuse i didnt like how RL was treating me. Didnt have a backup.
full spruce
I play all 6 tanks
knotty wagon
Badeline u ally na?
full spruce
Horde
knotty wagon
Na isnt as clean for pugging on ally
astral crystal
NA ally is a shitshow
sick sentinel
imagine playing alliance btw
astral crystal
i love alliance myself, would like nothing more than to play dwarf
sick sentinel
not even blood elfs?
astral crystal
but the talent pool is pretty dry
knotty wagon
So its either ppay alliance or find a new wife
knotty wagon
I dont care about kuch, i just lioe fucking around grinding reps with some keys
Although im kinda being pished i to a couple +14FH tomorrow
On bdk
sick sentinel
we are now waiting on 81 more alliance guilds to kill jaina so cross realm can open
knotty wagon
Yeahh
full spruce
Long as you have 400ilvl just start groups in LFR with like “Mythic Champs - BLEEDING HOLLOW” whatever server and spam your trade chat same thing but add like aotc 1/9m. Usually takes me 30 mins a group but you’ll fill up
full spruce
I always go 3-4-13 with pugging
sick sentinel
alliance 19th is world 105th lul
astral crystal
single tank mythic champs?
knotty wagon
I gotta go to bed, ths ks for chat. Ill be around more with questions at cap
sick sentinel
yeah you can single tank them
astral crystal
in a PUG?
oblique garnet
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