protection

[modern brook]

sal plz

help

this isnt the topic

[wild shore]

Fem tauren

[jovial haven]

LMAO

[modern brook]

😬

[sand egret]

DID females without firebeards....what a let down

[modern brook]

fem undead TBH

:thicc:

[outer dew]

Does the carpet match the drapes for DiD females

[lusty grotto]

have you guys met

[jovial haven]

i played fem undead warrior most of WoD

[lusty grotto]

nimch?

[outer dew]

:^)

[lusty grotto]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/black-dragonflight/nimch

[undone sun]

hmmm

[modern brook]

She looks like a 4'6" butt plug

[lusty grotto]

i haven't played nimch since cata lol

youre just jelly

[sand egret]

❤

[outer dew]

Btw, yeet

Boost cheaper than server + faction seap

To bring my priest back

Lmao

[sand egret]

oh did ya'll know that "pog" actually does come from Pogs....

[outer dew]

$30 for bfa, tsktsk

[jovial haven]

boost even cheaper atm with bfa on sale for $30

[sand egret]

i learned that yesterday

[outer dew]

Yeap

[sand egret]

i'm pretty hip to it now

[modern brook]

boosts are still 60 iirc

i think its just race and the stuff under that thats on sale

[jovial haven]

yes but if you buy another copy of bfa you get boost for $30

[modern brook]

so race faction and name

[sand egret]

i think it's just "select" services

but you can get around it via the cheap wholesale game

[modern brook]

cani buy a bfa for a friend and use that boost for myself?

[jovial haven]

you can buy it and use same email

[outer dew]

You can buy multiple copies on one account

So the free boost included can be used on any liscence

[jovial haven]

unless you mean a real friend in which case what is that?

[lusty grotto]

i cant believe you people want to pay more money to blizz

[jovial haven]

i thought a friend was as much a myth as healers on grievous week

[modern brook]

I just dont wanna level :^)

[primal crypt]

Any word on best loa?

[modern brook]

Current feel craft is paku

which is disapointing

[primal crypt]

We going with bobsalami?

[modern brook]

Cause its effectively 80% of a BElf racial

[primal crypt]

Paku???

[lusty grotto]

best loa is no loa

[jovial haven]

buy bfa, use same email, get half price boost @modern brook

[lusty grotto]

free no money version

[primal crypt]

Waduhek paku

Isnt paku the movement speed?

[undone sun]

no

it's crit

[primal crypt]

Oh crit

[modern brook]

The discourse has pretty much culminated in "proc based healing is unvaluable because it tends to over heal"

[undone sun]

https://i.imgur.com/4p7UPAc.png

[modern brook]

and the kimbul bleed is ~100k over a dungeon

[primal crypt]

Lmao wat

[jovial haven]

wonder how often paku proccs

[primal crypt]

100k

Wow

[modern brook]

its 1ppm

roughly 20% uptime

[primal crypt]

Isnt bobsalami a good deal of dmg?

[modern brook]

🤷

isnt bwomsomdi just touch of the grave?

[undone sun]

yeah, for a racial it's good

bobs and pakus are the general choices

[teal kelp]

id does roughly 7-8k damage per minute

it

[primal crypt]

Going with bob then

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[modern brook]

2yam

did u race change?

[teal kelp]

im a 411 prot warrior, and bwonsambdi literally hits for 2.5k per hit

[primal crypt]

My pally

[lusty grotto]

yam just likes burning dollar bills

[primal crypt]

My warr is staying belf

[modern brook]

I'm thinking of race changing my warrior for the OMEGA meme

[lusty grotto]

wait what

you swapped again

[primal crypt]

I found 1.2m gold in my bank alt guild

[lusty grotto]

holy fuck lol

[modern brook]

Bwom Loa + RF + Devestator

[primal crypt]

My wife has been putting away money from all the crap I sotred on our bank alts

[lusty grotto]

i swear yamo swaps races every 2 months

[primal crypt]

Didnt tell me we had gold just sitting there

[modern brook]

@primal crypt care to donate some goal to ur good friend bullfango :^)

[primal crypt]

Talk to my wife

[modern brook]

I have 3k gold across 3 characters: ^)

[primal crypt]

She only authorized my paladin race change lmao

[lusty grotto]

if only we were good to sell runs bull

could be rich

[modern brook]

My guild says that all the time nim

:^)

[exotic spoke]

You should def sell runs lol

[lusty grotto]

but were different servers

we can do 1 arthas, 1 thrall

since med and you are thrall

and the rest are arthas

[modern brook]

the rest ARE(th)ASS

hahaha

got em

unblockable dmg right there

[exotic spoke]

You can sell runs cross server for gold no problem. The issue is paying out cross server but that’s not too bad

[lusty grotto]

:p

yeah i aint got time to have gold rotting on an unused alt or selling stupid pets

[wise mirage]

does moment of glory

stack

the duration

like 12 secs to 14secs

[olive merlin]

I think I am in a small minority here, but anyone else just not interested in this raid? I do enjoy the m+ though

[exotic spoke]

You don’t need to nim.

[primal crypt]

This raid has been great imo

Compared to previous raids

The trash to jadefire masters makes me sick though

[sand egret]

i couldnt live without this raid

[modern brook]

Really enjoy BoD TBH

agreed yam

[sand egret]

it gives me life

[primal crypt]

Gotta be the worst trash in wow history

[modern brook]

zul trash 😬

[primal crypt]

Was bad

But at least you would just die

Sitting there frozen

[outer dew]

Just pull it all to jade fire and lust

:^)

[primal crypt]

Doesnt even one shot

You just wittle away

[exotic spoke]

Nim, want me to message you the details? It’s a little harder if you’re on two servers but it’s doable without selling pets and shit

[modern brook]

@exotic spoke message me them plz ;^)

[primal crypt]

@modern brook btw

I kind of told my wife about the videos for skips and things

She wants to make them for her channel now

Rog skips, tank skips, tips and tricks we use through every single dungeon

I told her we need to do shrine and waycrest first though because people waiting

[dense flame]

Not bad idea

[primal crypt]

But she wants to show both POV and not just mine lol

[dense flame]

Do you have a current list of videos?

[inland mesa]

awww you M+ with the wife?

[lusty grotto]

he M+s with soap okay

[primal crypt]

Yup, shes the other rog in my comp

Duck is wifey

[lusty grotto]

fuck

i messed that up

why did i think it was soap

[modern brook]

@primal crypt that sounds super suck af

[sand egret]

Is this before or after your video on how you make your coffee?

[inland mesa]

I'd be curious for different skips, I've basically brute forced the majority of my io

[modern brook]

IDRC the order

I think thats a resource thats been missing from the M+ community

[lusty grotto]

wait is there someone called soap on your group yamo

[modern brook]

and having it at all will be fat

[primal crypt]

Nope

No soap

[lusty grotto]

i knew it was duck but why did i think it was soap

[modern brook]

Soap was the baller from MW

[primal crypt]

@modern brook yeah, she wants to pump them out

So incoming

[modern brook]

Pumper

Pass me that

LINK

[lusty grotto]

will it have extra Brudders?

[primal crypt]

Higher quality than my little clips

[bright pagoda]

jadefire is so fun, on my monk i love dropping a ring of peace in the middle of te walkway

[inland mesa]

lol

you heathen

[short vale]

Any idea if when casting haymaker you can dodge/parry/block? 😮

[lusty grotto]

i think ima sit discord out for the week

until these racial questions are done

they trigger me

[short vale]

Nim! what else tilts you, lemme make a list

[modern brook]

@lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

oh no what i have i done

[short vale]

😄

[modern brook]

You thought you could trust me

but u couldnt

I got upal :^)

[primal crypt]

:)

If there's anything in particular you guys really want presented in the keys, DM your request

And Ill make sure it's in the vids

[lusty grotto]

make sure you shout out to nimchipadin, the best hpal for your 7s and 8s

[primal crypt]

Yes

100%

[lusty grotto]

lol

[modern brook]

Tell them to mail their greys to Winzlo US-thrall

[exotic spoke]

I mean, that’s easy money right bull?

[modern brook]

:^)

My current means of making gold is being a boon to my guild

once they realize im easily replacable I'm so poor

[exotic spoke]

Lol

I just wish you could advertise in LFG

[primal crypt]

My friends got a 3 day ban

For repeated offense

Advertising on lfg for sales

[exotic spoke]

Yup, I saw that change and stopped doing it really quickly

[primal crypt]

People report you out of spite

[exotic spoke]

If I can’t do it then I’ll make sure you can’t either lol

[primal crypt]

Exactly lmao

One of my buddies got whispered first

For the jebait

"Do you guys take real money?"

[exotic spoke]

No, never

[primal crypt]

Trying to get that screenshot permaban

[exotic spoke]

Wow

[sick sentinel]

Lol

[primal crypt]

So after the 3 day ban, they stopped listing in lfg lol

[sick sentinel]

This is why u just fuck the AH

[exotic spoke]

Just spam trade on multiple servers that are shitty

[sick sentinel]

It's way easier to fuck the economy up

[exotic spoke]

I can’t compete with other people like that on my small shitty server

There are 8-10 people already in control of the AH

In different facets

[sick sentinel]

I'm on dalaran, it's a Omega server but hoo boy

Just fucking with a specific part of the AH is the funniest

"It would be ashame if I flood the enchants market with fucked prices"

[exotic spoke]

Enchant market is pretty shitty now - and mats

After yesterday

Seems like everyone is already getting more from DEing stuff even if they haven’t finished the profession quest

[empty inlet]

any wa that shows reflect damge delt ?

[sick sentinel]

I don't think a wa exists for that but I u can see it on addons like msbt or details

[exotic spoke]

Nope, pretty sure you can’t

It’s not tracked pretty much anywhere

And thank god

[sick sentinel]

Yeah if ur tracking total damage reflect idk, if u want to see damage dealt, MSBT does show it

[undone sun]

tracked in logs

but i haven't seen a wa for that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[exotic spoke]

Where? I couldn’t find it

[undone sun]

damage done from target to target

it's just self damage from the enemy that casted the reflected ability

[sick sentinel]

It's probably in the same area when Ghuun was SR bugged

[exotic spoke]

Hrmmm I thought I checked that. But will again thanks thyme

[ionic fern]

Jep, go to logs->Enemies->Damage Taken->Search for the spell the boss casted and you reflected.

[sick sentinel]

I really need to learn how log

Cause I wanna log my m+

[ionic fern]

DOwnload addon "Autolog".
DOwnload Warcraftlogs uploader.

🤷

And you're set.

[sick sentinel]

U see that's hard

[undone sun]

ert should also auto log in instances

[lusty grotto]

yep

i use ERT

[sick sentinel]

Because I know I have to set up more just that

[lusty grotto]

it instantly turns on logging on M+ and raids that aren't LFR

[sick sentinel]

If it doesn't lfr, what's even the point

[lusty grotto]

DBM also does auto logging

[undone sun]

there's an option for lfr is there not

[lusty grotto]

there probably is

but i honestly haven't looked a my settings in a while

[undone sun]

same

[woven trellis]

Tell me if im guetting the prot guides right, If im tanking blocking thing, i shouuld wait until Shield block buff is gone before to ignore pain right?

no use using them both at the same time

[lusty grotto]

no

you use IP to complement SB

[empty inlet]

https://gyazo.com/8e1da1bcd9fd982e4d579f15ba98fd6f

nerf has a reflect wa

[vague grotto]

So what's the consensus on Zandarli racials and tanking?

[lusty grotto]

hides

[woven trellis]

how is it better to complement it than saving it for when i dont have shield block anymore

[vague grotto]

I'm just curious I'm sure it's asked a lot

[undone sun]

IP and Sb aren't mutually exclusive, IP is a health/damage buffer while SB is active mitigation

[ionic fern]

@vague grotto racials barely make a dent in tanking performance. If you like the looks of the race pick it.

[vague grotto]

I have no opinion, just curious what the tank discords are thinking

[lusty grotto]

because you want to absorb up to 50% of damage that is left after the block

[vague grotto]

Mmk cool

[lusty grotto]

therefore smoothing out the dmg

[vague grotto]

DPS ones worth it for tanking at all? Just for some added damage?

[undone sun]

warrior is all about proactive damage mitigation, very little recovery so you do your best to reduce as much damage as you can to your raw hp @woven trellis

[lusty grotto]

why would you think holding IP would be a good idea?

[woven trellis]

alright but it still needs rage, what if im in a situation where i need some rage

[vague grotto]

Ty @ionic fern

[ionic fern]

Bwosmandi is looking decent afaik.

[lusty grotto]

if you need rage, you're probably not managing rage well

[woven trellis]

actuallly its all hypothetic, im moving from DK to warrior, im at work and im learning the theory

[lusty grotto]

if you're Demoing on CD, and actively tanking, you will generate a shitton of rage

[woven trellis]

im not even 120

[lusty grotto]

read Booming Voice

its a talent

[woven trellis]

whats the more complicated for me to understand is how i should use the Ignore pain weak aura

[modern brook]

@vague grotto LoA choice seems pretty irrelevant

not having to time Hleaps is nice

[lusty grotto]

you only use rage when (1) SB is down, (2) IP is down, or (3) about to rage cap

[modern brook]

REgeneratin seems really good; if not as good as it is on Paladin

[lusty grotto]

in that order

#3 being a decision between IPing or Revenging for rage dumping

[modern brook]

I expect to see a lot of Zandalari cause they're cool lookin

and they look amazing in T20 plate

[primal crypt]

@modern brook do we still mitigate during Regeneratin?

[lusty grotto]

in theory, if you are out of rage constantly, you are not managing rage efficiently

[timber nest]

@empty inlet you have a link to that young clapper

[modern brook]

its a channel, os to my knowledge we cant block shield etc

So we dont have bubble regen

but we do have Leap regen

[undone sun]

well

it depends if it's a true channel or not

it's not always cut and dry

[modern brook]

it breaks on damage either way

[primal crypt]

Yeah, like the engineering brez is channel

[undone sun]

and the trinket

[primal crypt]

But we still mitigate

[modern brook]

so u shouldnt be doing it while we actively tank

[primal crypt]

Aha

[undone sun]

that too actually

any damage breaks the channel

[modern brook]

Protadin has Laststand-Regneratin

Which is roughly as good as last stand->spam heals into self

[lusty grotto]

just bubble

[atomic gazelle]

hi guys where are we on TC as a tank in M+

trash or amazing?

[modern brook]

Its a solid C

maybe C+

on a spec with traits that range from C+-A+

[lusty grotto]

if you're planning on pushing keys, i wouldn't recommend it

[atomic gazelle]

yeah i wanna push

[lusty grotto]

if you're doing pulls comfortably sure

[atomic gazelle]

bastion of might instead then?

[exotic spoke]

God yes

[lusty grotto]

you cant double or triple pull if you're not defensive enough

[modern brook]

3xBOM+1DC+2IF is the bog standard recomendation for 415 optimal traits

[lusty grotto]

and the dps gains from TC won't make up for that

[modern brook]

TBH do fucking whatever

All of our traits are amazing

[atomic gazelle]

damn we dont do brace for impact anymore?

[modern brook]

I do

[lusty grotto]

IF is better than BFI in M+

[modern brook]

My goal tank set is 3 bom 1dc 2bfi

[exotic spoke]

I have one BfI. BfI is more for raids though

[lusty grotto]

because you're not consistently Shield Slamming

[modern brook]

^

[atomic gazelle]

right

[exotic spoke]

That’s my goal for raiding. For m+ it would be 2 IF

[warm plinth]

Sucks that it breaks on any damage; would be cool if you could use it to like heal up grievous or bursting real fast after a pull or something like that

[lusty grotto]

if SSing a lot, then BFI would be superior

[modern brook]

I prefer it even in dungeons because I'd rather have the st damage on bosses

[lusty grotto]

yeah that would be broken @warm plinth

[modern brook]

or even prio damage vs things like the horse ppl in seige

[warm plinth]

I know, but still cool XD

[ionic fern]

🤷 To each their own. I still enjoy my 3BoM/3DC/2Earthlink

[lusty grotto]

bull hates horse people in Siege

[modern brook]

😠

[lusty grotto]

i like 3BoM/3DC

just not enough to push with it

[ionic fern]

I'm pushing with it.

[modern brook]

@atomic gazelle the take away from this is "1DC + whatever your highest ILVL traits are"

[ionic fern]

😄

[modern brook]

All prot traits are REALLY good

TC isnt worth the value provided in most scenarios

[lusty grotto]

yeah but you tend to push bigger with more block

if your healer can manage big pulls without the extra block, then that'd be ok

[ionic fern]

We've had no issues so far.

[lusty grotto]

just remember that pulling bigger means more dps from us 😃

at some point you will hit a wall and opt to go for a bit more defensive and swap some DCs out

but maybe you won't if you stay at a certain key lvl

[atomic gazelle]

@modern brook lol yeah thanks 😃

[ionic fern]

Jeah, i'll definetly swap out of it once i get to like 22 or something keys

But on 19-20 it's fine.

[strong forum]

just got 100% ilvl parse on grong

feelsfucking good

[modern brook]

1/92

congrats :^)

jokes aside - congrats

[wise mirage]

Is rastakhan

only bugged for me?

like wtf is this blizzard

[modern brook]

we downed H rasta last night no problem

whats the bug>

[wise mirage]

on mythic rasta

as soon as he starts the end cast

you get insane lags

[exotic spoke]

That was every fight last night

Was pure cancer

[wise mirage]

well only m rasta for us

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/b0g51i/insane_lag_on_mythic_rastakhan_after_patch_today/

[exotic spoke]

Doing grong and he wouldn’t ever do the full convo

[wise mirage]

and I had insane lags on opulence too

[exotic spoke]

Combo. But it wasn’t predictable

[wise mirage]

as soon as the adds spawn

couldnt even press clap

[trail whale]

the lag on mythic rasta was great

[exotic spoke]

Trash was aids between grong and opulence too.

[trail whale]

10 second lag spike on scorching detonation

[timber nest]

lol, you think lag on rastakhan is bad

[wise mirage]

well as soon as we get intermission

and bwosamdi casts end

insta lag

and wipe

because everyone downstairs resets stacks thanks to lag

[modern brook]

yikes

[timber nest]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/92f8YFgXv67tHQLK#fight=6&type=damage-taken&hostility=1 check out that 60m hp champions of the light kill

[exotic spoke]

We called it after grong. And that took 2 hours when it shouldn’t have taken anywhere near that long

[wise mirage]

How much stacks can I take while tanking bwosamdi

?

I feel like when we swap each tank laser

I get like 40+

and it huuuurts like shit

[inland mesa]

yeah we were lagged out by Rasta, managed to get him by pre spreading, auto run, and turning down graphics and back to DX 11

lag spikes were then every few seconds so you could react a little, instead of frozen for a good 10-15

[trail whale]

lacroux you just have to make sure to properly use externals. the tank that leaves bwonsamdi and starts tanking rasta with the stacks is the one at risk so as long as your healers know that and you know that it's not too bad

i want to say... you get like 43 or 44 when you do all the swaps after the first one every time

[timber nest]

@wise mirage my guild just solo tanks bwonsamdi with a monk and i sit on rastakhan.

[wise mirage]

we have

DK and Warrior

with the second one being me

[timber nest]

DK should be able to solo tank bwonsamdi. like someone said, you just need to manage CD"s well

[wise mirage]

he doesnt have

ams trait

I think you need it in order for ams to be long enough

[naive panther]

We got the Rasta lag but still killed him. I was already dead on the floor

[inland mesa]

We swap, and as long as I don't get caress leaving bwonboi and I'm already super low last stand, plus IP spam, plus Iron bark usually keeps me up until caress wears off

[runic hare]

Quick question: Stormwall Blockade, the Reaching Attack

is it reflectable?

[lunar pewter]

Hi guys, I'm coming back to WoW after few months break and i'm wondering if zandalari racials offers something crucial to prot warrior for m+? What races are best for m+ right now?

[wise mirage]

@runic hare I dont think so

probably blood elf?

for dispell

if you talk about mythic +

[stark sage]

@lunar pewter afaik there isnt anything super required or abuseable atleast on the horde side

ally get DID, dwarf, and NE for powerful m+ racials

[wise mirage]

Bloodelf?

you forgetting that

[stark sage]

BE is good but i dont think its as required as it was in legion

[wise mirage]

yea

but its the best for mythic +

dispell is used

[sick sentinel]

Eh

[wise mirage]

like in nearly all dungeons

[sick sentinel]

Eh

[warm plinth]

BE is good, but not "I need to race change right now for this racial"

Like it was in Legion

[wise mirage]

yea

no race is like that

[undone sun]

it's funny, they changed AT to dispells instead of interrupt, then added a bunch of dispells to dungeons

[wise mirage]

he was talking what was the best for mythic +

[sick sentinel]

Be is good if u don't have one of the other 85 classes that can dispell/purge

And unfortunately, while it is good, it's CD is not worth it imo

Esp when u consider several classes have a much shorter cd

[undone sun]

no class has an aoe dispell

er

[sick sentinel]

Priest

[undone sun]

priest

right

most other classes dont

[sick sentinel]

They don't but they have a shorter cd to make up for it

[exotic spoke]

I mean... are priests even people?

[undone sun]

doubtful ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[exotic spoke]

I thought they are just heal bots

[lunar pewter]

Ok, so if right now none racial is "op" on horde side i'll just go with cosmetics 😄 Ty for answer.

[sick sentinel]

It's a personal preference

[undone sun]

i think it's worth it, if you do any amount of M+ AT will always have a use

[lunar pewter]

I just thogut that there is something like BE racial in legion

[sick sentinel]

Unfortunately it's all in alli

[left turret]

Hey all i am thinking to go for warrior tank

Do you think its a good choice ?

[stark sage]

well we might be a bit biased here in skyhold

[left turret]

İ need an easy and powerfull tank for m+ contemt

[stark sage]

but its one of the best tanks atm

[wintry ermine]

bonded souls vs BFI?

[analog swift]

@left turret definitely don’t Warrior is awful

[exotic spoke]

What do you play now dxfury?

[left turret]

İ am playing blood dk atm

But after 8.1 dk got worse

[exotic spoke]

Blood dks are still really solid.

[left turret]

İt was great at start of content

[exotic spoke]

You’re still up in top tier for m+ content. Reaping just plays to a warriors strengths right now

[left turret]

İ suffer with lack of defense and high damage when reaping came

Top tier is warrior

[exotic spoke]

And did are still really good too. There is more than one top tier tank right now

[undone sun]

still have to put in effort, still high chance of dying

[sand egret]

reaping is kinda built to punish "mess-ups" fwiw

long, hard-hitting telegraphed abilities

[left turret]

Yeah as a tank i dont like the idae which bounded to healer to survive actually

[sand egret]

ramping % based dot but is dispellable

[exotic spoke]

If you don’t like the idea of needing an outside source of heals than warrior isn’t for you imo

And the DK is the best choice for you

[sand egret]

which is also kinda silly, since you got to look at the whole picture. We also need less healing.

[undone sun]

but when you do need healing...

[sand egret]

you clap to get VR

duhh

[exotic spoke]

Lol

[left turret]

İ am an average player just did a +14 freehold but missed it with 5 second intime

İ died several times

[sand egret]

well it's also necrotic, which can be very punishing if not dealt with correctly

[left turret]

Yeah hurts dk really bar

Bad *

[supple plover]

Learn to kite now, as a dk you can't ams it anymore so you have to know when to start kiting on necrotic

[exotic spoke]

you have to kite necrotic.

We have to do it too

[sturdy trench]

bod tonight

sucha fucking joke

[left turret]

The problem is with low dps if i kite agro loss on adds

[undone sun]

unless you're Nelf or DiD, i mean you still have to kite but less often

[exotic spoke]

Lucky you. We lost a lot of our raid time this week to last night

[supple plover]

If aggro is a major issue you are running undergeared to your dps or aren't using abilities to kite effectively.

[exotic spoke]

True thyme. But those are options for dk. We’ll dwarf and NE

[supple plover]

You will have that same issue on the warrior if you aren't kiting effectively

[left turret]

İ am horde player

I should higher my dps maybe

[exotic spoke]

How much dps do you pull in a m+

[narrow abyss]

ur saying thias BDK or prot??

[left turret]

Well at single target i do 7 k damage

Bdk

Overall its 8-10k max

[narrow abyss]

8-10k overall dungeon?

[left turret]

Yeah

[narrow abyss]

oof

[exotic spoke]

I have no idea what the average is for BDK in m+ but that may be low.

Every class has its own challenges and benefits.

With prot you have to predict the damage and mitigate it. If you don’t plan ahead you will die.

[left turret]

Season1 dk and monk was superior but season 2 they sucks because of low dps

[exotic spoke]

That said, if you want to play prot it can be a lot of fun. It’s just different than bdk.

[left turret]

Maybe i should try

[exotic spoke]

I wouldn’t say bdk and monk suck at all. They are certainly viable.

[gray knot]

im new to prot, what weapon enchant is good?

[narrow abyss]

Quick nav

[supple plover]

Quick nav

[exotic spoke]

In the guide but quick nav

[narrow abyss]

BDK and prot very different

8-10 is kinda low

[supple plover]

I play prot with a bdk alt and mained bdk last tier. Bdk damage is the same, they lost a little survivability with the armor nerf and bonestorm got the nerf it deserved. You bring a BDK for utility.

[exotic spoke]

Is 8-10k low for a bdk? I honestly don’t know

[supple plover]

BR, grip, ranged stun, reached kick are all very nice on a fairly sturdy tank

[sand egret]

well, 8-10k....at what ilvl

kinda a dumb stat without context. That's fucking amazing for a 300 ilvl bdk 😃

[exotic spoke]

Dxfury, what’s your gear like?

True true

[narrow abyss]

I mean he’s doing 14s right on freehold

That should be more than 8-10

[sand egret]

eh, still doesn't answer the question

[steel mauve]

Why not ask in the bdk discord?

[sand egret]

^ this is a solid question

[lusty grotto]

☝

also bdk damage is certainly not the same

@supple plover

[steady dragon]

👋 hey nerds. I got into a new guild and am currently trialing. In old guild i had a paladin cotank for rasta, never had to tank bonswamd. Now i have to switch, and im having a bit of a struggle.
can someone point me any improvements i can make?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wFzHvcNAjTqyXJ49/#fight=29

[sand egret]

(although, tbf the original question was about Prot)

[narrow abyss]

#449510248579858432

[steady dragon]

cheers ill post there

[lusty grotto]

no need, we can check

[sand egret]

if you give a mouse a cookie

[lusty grotto]

@steady dragon why aren't you using Last Stand to cover for SB gaps

you used Last stand once

your overall block will increase, it is 60% with SB alone

that will help out a bit

cast Demo Shout more

you have 37% uptime

[steady dragon]

i spend a lot of my time in p1 not hitting boss cuz im walking away, thats why

[lusty grotto]

you are getting shit on without blocks

[steady dragon]

(on demo shout)

but i'll change my attitude towards last stand

i probably hold onto it too much

[sand egret]

its basically rotational

3x SB > LS

i say basically, as mechanics can often let you get in more SBs

[lusty grotto]

from :45 to 1minute mark you are taking a shitload of melee dmg and you're not blocking it

[exotic spoke]

LS is no longer an oh shit button it’s part of our defensive rotation

[sand egret]

tbh, most of our cooldowns shouldn't be Oh Shit buttons

[narrow abyss]

agree

[sand egret]

unless it's "Oh shit incoming"

[exotic spoke]

True, but they used to be. As in “oh shit I fucked a mechanic and am about to take a lot of damage”

[sand egret]

not "oh shit i took a lot of damage-saveme"

[exotic spoke]

Yes, that’s what I meant. Or my co tank died

[sand egret]

I feel ya, but felt the obligatory "Proactive, not reactive" statement was needed 😃

[narrow abyss]

its weird to use oh shit buttons and not hold but thats the point of anger management

[steady dragon]

dk tendencies :^)

but cheers for the input

[narrow abyss]

the more rage u dump the faster u get it back

[sand egret]

yeah, just remember Prot as a whole is fundamentally different than the rest of the tanks. It is a pure-proactive tanking style

[exotic spoke]

Yup.

“Back in my day.... shield wall had a 30 minute shared cooldown!”

[sand egret]

yuup

[narrow abyss]

haha

[lusty grotto]

hey i played those days

[narrow abyss]

popping reck on someone

meant u really hated their guts

[sand egret]

but in reality you always were like "naw, ill just save it...."
three hours later

[exotic spoke]

Back in my day.... retaliation was fucking amazing in pvp versus melee - and then they gave it an animation

[lusty grotto]

back in my day... you had to stance dance to pop berserker rage and break out of fears

[exotic spoke]

Nah bro

Dwarf priests

[lusty grotto]

(to berserking stance)

i had dwarf priests

didn't need them :p

no need for fear wards

[old zephyr]

the power of the memespec

[exotic spoke]

True, but there were times when the fear was on a shorter cooldown than berserker rage (nef)

[undone sun]

ilevel parses

[astral crystal]

what fight is that

[old zephyr]

HM blocade

[astral crystal]

i see

[sand egret]

@exotic spoke Nefarion comes to mind

[exotic spoke]

Yup! It does

[old zephyr]

I know this suck but my guild is not the best

[exotic spoke]

I remember when the phrase “it’s a clever use of game mechanics” meant basically an exploit

[primal crypt]

[sweet kettle]

gore 405 rezans 400 alchemi trinket and opulence trinket 415 what you think is better this week?

[warm plinth]

Prism would definitely lose a lot of value because of necrotic this week. I would probably use the other two.

Er

Sorry I didn't realize you listed 3 other than prism because you only had two ilevels XD

[sweet kettle]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[warm plinth]

Is it 415 alc trink or 400?

[sweet kettle]

415

[warm plinth]

Ehhhh, definitely Rezan's but honestly not sure what would come out on top between Gore and Alc

I would think the alc trinket though

[sweet kettle]

the str buff from alchemy is just to good

[warm plinth]

Yeah, for sure.

[valid fog]

Rezan Stone Block, Vial Blood, Oppulence, Mekka Trinkets are pretty good

or jaina trinket with ring

[warm plinth]

Why do you need the ring with the trinket?

[valid fog]

cuz it will get increased dmg

nvm its just for the dagger

[warm plinth]

Oh, yeah the set bonus is with the sword, not the trinket. I figured that's what you were referring to though.

[valid fog]

Yeah

[warm plinth]

I bet that combo would be really solid for parsing for those folks using Devastator and Relentless Flurry XD

Anchor + the set bonus + deva + 2x RF

[valid fog]

yeah but I would rather take rezan + mekka trinket for rf

[warm plinth]

Ah yeah, true. More haste.

[valid fog]

But never tried rf prot out

[warm plinth]

Eh, too niche to care about anyway unless you're really trying to get R1 parses

[valid fog]

just playin prot for m+

[warm plinth]

Would be pretty memey though

[valid fog]

yeah saw some parses today

[empty inlet]

Is shield block only useful against melee

[stark sage]

no a lot of ranged abilities can be blocked

but its a case by case basis

[empty inlet]

Meant like melee attacks

Not physical skills right ? Or

[stark sage]

there are ranged abilities, melee abilities that can be blocked

physical attacks can also be blocked

its your bread and butter mitigation, it affects most things

if it doesnt block, then SR probably works. if neither work then SW and IP and pray

[ocean acorn]

ok so im subbing for tank tomorrow on conclave and after reading tanknotes.tk and the blockable reflectable spell sheet

there is a discrepancy

says lacerating claws can be blocked

[undone sun]

TK is wrong

@gaunt dawn

https://i.imgur.com/pR5pWNt.png https://i.imgur.com/RHDqK9L.png

[ocean acorn]

R=raw A= absorbed M = mitigated correct

?

[gaunt dawn]

Thanks. I'll update it 👌

[ocean acorn]

oh shit i found something lul

thanks for the notes panthea

good read

[gaunt dawn]

Some of the other block paradigms might be off also

As it was from ptr data

[ocean acorn]

ya im getting subbed in to this fight from no exp on it

so hoping it goes well

but wanted to read up if i need to use LS or SW at any specific parts

[warm plinth]

Yeah someone was mentioning that bestial throw isn't mentioned for warriors on Grong either (as being reflected)

reflectable*

[ocean acorn]

but it looks like just the kimbul dot is hard

[gaunt dawn]

Yeah that spell changed a fair bit in the first few weeks

[warm plinth]

Figured it's just because things have been discovered since then and it just hasn't been updated

[ocean acorn]

thats in the block spreadsheet

[warm plinth]

Yeah, it is.

[ocean acorn]

im not sure about tanknotes

[stone cloud]

Sword has ago tho so nope

[gaunt dawn]

Havent had time this tier to devote to the update schedule I want for TankNotes 😟

[sand egret]

Panth is a saint. 🙏

[warm plinth]

We still ❤ you

[umbral forge]

Can someone help me?
My guild of misfits couldn't kill Conclave until a few horrible pulls and fell apart on Rastakhan today.
I think it's because I went DPS today and usually tank, but I don't know enough about logs to know for sure.
I just don't want to wipe for a hour on a farm boss ever again

[sand egret]

what's the ask?

[ocean acorn]

link it in #449510248579858432

[umbral forge]

Thanks

[sand egret]

yeah it'd post it there as it's a more general log check than a "check this specific prot thing I did" 😃

[timber nest]

@umbral forge heroic or mythic?

[umbral forge]

Heroic

[zenith ruin]

hello mates whats the best race for prot warrior M+ horde side ?

[lusty grotto]

for raids any

for M+ probably BE

but its such a small margin, that you could really roll any and be as effective

there is no meaningful gain from once race to another, their differences are pretty small

if you were alliance though... that might change

[trim yarrow]

Bloodsport or Iron fortress mythic +?

[lusty grotto]

IF

but bloodsport might be not so far behind

and is very good against magic damage - at the cost of any offensive value

(because it has none)

[trim yarrow]

thanks didnt get the best 415 helm this week lol

[sick sentinel]

IF is pretty good for mplus

if you already have 3bom+1dc

[lusty grotto]

what up kaege

[sick sentinel]

I would take it over bloodsport every day of the week

[lusty grotto]

dont tell me you race changed too

[sick sentinel]

lol no

[lusty grotto]

good good

[sick sentinel]

I am staying an orc mate

[lusty grotto]

🤝

[trim yarrow]

nope only 2 bom and 1 dc

[sick sentinel]

nothing can beat the massive shoulders

[trim yarrow]

got overseerers riot helm 😦

[lusty grotto]

what ilvl is the TW thing

400?

[open bluff]

385

[lusty grotto]

what the fuck

[open bluff]

only mythic dungeon weeks reward heroic caches

tw is always normal

[trim yarrow]

trade winds or callous reprisal?

[lusty grotto]

goddamn it i keep forgetting that thanks avalith

[sick sentinel]

@trim yarrow CR

[open bluff]

if it makes you feel any better nim

[trim yarrow]

ty

[open bluff]

week after next is mythic dungeon week

[lusty grotto]

finally

[sick sentinel]

it might be worse than most prot traits but it's still a good trait

[lusty grotto]

need to gear my alts damn it

[sick sentinel]

don't sleep on it

I slacked a bit on reading #protection , did I miss anything?

[lusty grotto]

nah just people complaining about name plates and rolling KT/Zandalari

asking about which loa and whatever

[sick sentinel]

oh, the reason I wasn't reading then

perfect

[lusty grotto]

haha yeah

[sick sentinel]

in other news, @oblique garnet has one more score than me

because for some reason the DH decided it would be a good idea to taunt the 3rd boss of the 19 ToS

[lusty grotto]

1 day ill catch up

1 day

[sick sentinel]

meanwhile, I am benched while my guild is doing mekka

[warm plinth]

FeelsScoMan

[sick sentinel]

waiting for them to reach blockade so I can maybe get in

doing brawler's guild

[warm plinth]

How is the new one? Did they actually create new fights or is it a lot of the same ones again?

[lusty grotto]

i actually havent gotten the invite

[sick sentinel]

I just walked in

[lusty grotto]

oh

so no invite required?

[warm plinth]

Yeah I don't remember reading about a new invite for this one

[lusty grotto]

oh cool

[sick sentinel]

@warm plinth idk I facerolled the legion one literally the last day it was available when nobody else was in

[lusty grotto]

yo these tortollan wqs are pretty nice, short and quick

[warm plinth]

Eh, wowhead thing says "you'll face foes both new and old" so it's probably half recycled bosses again

[lusty grotto]

should be easy until that fucking polygon shit that made me rage in cataclysm

if it did come back

i think i broke a mouse

[sick sentinel]

currently 8 people doing it

[warm plinth]

Also one of the wowhead mods said in the comments that people who had prior access didn't need an invitation but people who have never done it before need one, but they haven't found out where to get it yet.

The invite is account-wide though iirc so if you've ever done it before, you should be fine

[lusty grotto]

i gotta say, i haven't really stepped into the new raid, but i really like this update so far

[warm plinth]

Yeah, I don't think the new raid is open yet anyway. Not until April 16th last I read.

[lusty grotto]

oh you're right

[sick sentinel]

he means bod

or wait

did you actually mean crusible?

[warm plinth]

I don't see any mention of hexyboi in their strategy guide so far Nim, so I think you're safe

He's not even in the list of the random fights

[lusty grotto]

weird i thought yamo said something about it earlier, so i assumed the new raid was out

eh i should be fine, i did that a couple exps later and one shotted it

i just remember me raging and destroying a mouse

[warm plinth]

That was one of the worst brawler guild fights ever though for sure

If not the absolute worst

[lusty grotto]

mostly because my latency was ass

you were fucked with high latency on that fight

[warm plinth]

Yeah I was on EU at the time; super fun, let me tell ya

[lusty grotto]

jesus haha

i'd probably go nuts at 100+ ms

[warm plinth]

Yeah I was at 220 average on EU

[lusty grotto]

damn

wow they did replace all turtle goes into water world quests

yayyyy

wait wtf

youre the crab now

[sand egret]

ITS THE CIIIIRCLE OF LIIIIFE

[warm plinth]

Did they actually replace it? Or just added the new one?

[lusty grotto]

no its the same except youre the crab eating the turtles lol

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/Fde3.gif

[keen spire]

I think they just added them into the cycle - we'll probably still have Beachhead later

[warm plinth]

Someone said yesterday you can just wait for a bunch of turtles, then die as a crab and Tclap and kill all the turtles to complete it

[keen spire]

that's fucking hilarious

[warm plinth]

I thought so too

[sand egret]

...so we’re the real killers

this whole time

[warm plinth]

Was there ever a doubt in your mind?

[lusty grotto]

that was pretty easy lol

[sand egret]

bruh im shook

[lusty grotto]

you can shoot their shells and rekt them

[sand egret]

im out here savin my turtle bros

[warm plinth]

I think it's a little strange that it's still a tortollan quest

Like yeah bro, take control of this crab and kill my babies, nbd

[lusty grotto]

she says the balance thing

[sand egret]

turns out...tryin to save them from myself...

[warm plinth]

Some inception type shit right there

[sand egret]

although Make Loh Go is perhaps my favorite pun in WoW

[lusty grotto]

i like the wq where you trace the symbol

its like super fucking fast

[sand egret]

also no one better come ask me what pun

[lusty grotto]

hey trace this triangle, ok, done

[warm plinth]

I want a version of Like the Wind or whatever from Kirin Tor

[knotty wagon]

I like the magic of flight

[sand egret]

cuz i hope ya’ll remember fuckin Logo

[warm plinth]

Is that the one where you went in the bubbles?

[keen spire]

Hey Bladesong

[knotty wagon]

How you can jjst use flying mount

Ues

[keen spire]

What pun are you talking about

[lusty grotto]

no

i mean were talking about the tortollan WQs

the new ones

bubble WQ was ass when it first came out, just stand here and wait 2 mins... super boring

[warm plinth]

I have no idea what pun you're talking about tbh

[lusty grotto]

i liked like the wind

im sure people raged at it

[sand egret]

O_O

[warm plinth]

It was a little buggy at times, but it was fun

[sand egret]

ya’ll never used LOGO?

[warm plinth]

I don't know what that is

[lusty grotto]

uh oh

[sand egret]

annnd now i feel old

[lusty grotto]

old man yelling at clouds time

[warm plinth]

How old are you lol

[lusty grotto]

was that the lego knock-off brand?

[sand egret]

it was an early drawing program

[lusty grotto]

ah

apple IIe shit or DOS?

[sand egret]

but was command based

[warm plinth]

Oh, I mean, I played with some DOS shit but I was more into games, not apps at that point in my life.

King's Quest VI was my shit

[lusty grotto]

pretty sure i didnt ever play it, but i did have a MS DOS compaq very early

[sand egret]

yeah it was basically learn2code that kids took. the cursor was a turtle that you made move

[lusty grotto]

hmm

im pretty sure

i did play that

at some point

now that you say the whole turtle thing

[warm plinth]

I made a dog whistle with a vic commodore 64 once

[sand egret]

the turtle was your drawing tool

[exotic spoke]

A turtle made it to the water

[sand egret]

which you’d script to draw shit

[warm plinth]

This thing?

[sand egret]

specifically you had to do it sequentially, which is what the minigame is about. Turn 90 degrees to the right. Forward drawing a line with X color etc

yeah!!!

[warm plinth]

Yeah it doesn't look familiar to me. That looks like Windows 98 right there though

Going by the title bar on the window anyway

[sand egret]

95 but yeah

😃

that was a real old version you posted

[warm plinth]

Yeah, so by the time we had 95, I was playing a PS2 version of EverQuest, so I missed like a 4 year period of computer use haha.

[sand egret]

it got a refresh in a few iterations

[lusty grotto]

that aint DOS

you lied to me

[warm plinth]

He never said it was DOS to be fair

[lusty grotto]

i totally never played that

[warm plinth]

He just said command line

[lusty grotto]

i did play sesame street on an apple IIe with the whole board thing you pressed

[sand egret]

and I believe the original was on DOS tbh

[lusty grotto]

that is like super fucking old

[warm plinth]

Could be, but I doubt it looked that nice XD

[lusty grotto]

my school had ancient computer systems

[sand egret]

but anyway, epic throwback pun

[exotic spoke]

that looks familiar

but yeah blade

Now you're making me feel old

Either that or something similar.

[vocal elm]

Does anyone know the uptime of Embrace of Krag’wa?

[open bluff]

it's 1 rppm

so it'll be between 20-30% most likely (note: this is a guess)

[oblique garnet]

I miss belf😪

[graceful mason]

has anybody tested Embrance of Akunda with IP

[naive panther]

screwing around with some wonky talents. this set up has no DC....

[sullen jungle]

I'll test the Embrace of Akunda to see if it can even proc for us

Well hitting a dummyy for 3min for tanking and spamming IP it has not procced yet

[oblique garnet]

Annd now youre stuck with the racial for 5 days

[sullen jungle]

Yes yess i am

But dont matter 😛

Sometimes you just gotta sacrifice brain cells for testing purposes

So in 5days ill just test a new one 😛

[naive panther]

using the dummy that hits back?

[sullen jungle]

Yep

IP doesnt proc it.

[naive panther]

up to 17596 dps now, stupid traits and talents but whatever

[oblique garnet]

What loa do you have?

@naive panther

[naive panther]

bob salami

it loses like 3k dps in aoe though

vs the more normal builds with dc and such

for hectic add cleave like 31k vs 28k

[oblique garnet]

Yeah figured that bobsalami would be the best for ape

Aoe*

I mean ST

[lucid kelp]

So hypothetically speaking whats t he math on taking 3 smashes from mythic grong and is it survivable with say...a lucky crit block + shield wall + last stand + demo shout?

[oblique garnet]

3 smashes?

No

[limpid umbra]

Sorry if im late to the party but what do we know about all the loas (except bobsalami) any blatantly value right now?>

[empty inlet]

how much % damage increase is shout normally for other dps class

[limpid umbra]

shout?

[empty inlet]

battle shout

[limpid umbra]

are we talking about the zandalari troll racials?

[warm plinth]

@limpid umbra None of them are spectacular. All pretty underwhelming thus far as I've seen reported.

@empty inlet You could always sim someone from the armory and have battle shout checked, then do another sim on the same person with it unchecked and see what the difference is.

AFAIK every DPS spec gets the majority of their damage from attack power though so it should be substantial increasing it by 10%.

[sick sentinel]

Ayyyye, 3/9

JFM easier then I thought itd be

Somehow easier then grong

[dim blaze]

405 no socket vs 400 socket

weapon

[sick sentinel]

405

[dim blaze]

thought so

[rough egret]

hi guys its me Wolf again 😄

need to read your opinion

diamond and engine are with socket

which 2 would you take into M+

I guess Diamond is good to go

[lucid kelp]

i mean

i personally would do Engine/Diamond

but anchor is also a solid choice if yer looking for damage

[rough egret]

in that case, diamond / anchor?

[potent anvil]

can probably go block+diamond this week. crit offers a bit of parry which can help with necrotic.

[sick sentinel]

has anyone tested the dungeon slice on raidbots vs hectic add cleave?

[naive panther]

anchor damage is so nice

[jolly valley]

i just did the fastest 5 timewalkings with this gear set https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/darkspear/singlensassy

[sick sentinel]

Hello Tank warriors; I don't talk much but what would be the best set up for M+ and or raiding

Is x3 Bastion of Might and x3 Deafening Crash any good? I'm currently using that :3

[ivory light]

Anyone got a good WA for necrotic that increases in size as you get more stacks / glows above like 20 stacks or so

[naive panther]

good for aoe dps

[rough egret]

from your trinkets I would go with rezan and diamond for M+

[knotty wagon]

How does Critical block work exactly?

[olive fulcrum]

From trinkets rezans and anchor/diamond depending on survivability needs, Azerite ideal is 3 BM 1 DC and 2 defensive ones. I have bloodsprut and IF but anything defensive works

Doubles the block amount

[knotty wagon]

say I have 50% chance to block, and say I have 50% chance to critically block,

Would i have a 25% chance to block, and 25% chance to critically block?

or would i just have 50% chance to critically block

This mastery seems like hot garbage lmao

[olive fulcrum]

50% to block and once you’ve blocked another 50% chance to double the blocked damage

[knotty wagon]

so, 25% chance for a normal block, 25% for a crit block, 50% chance to not block at all

Is our mastery considered "good"

[olive fulcrum]

Imagine with SB up, everything is blocked the remaining %mastery is the chance to double the blocked amount

[knotty wagon]

I feel like i'd value crit over mastery

Parry chance + more damage

[olive fulcrum]

Mastery also increases AP = bigger IP and ability base dmg

[knotty wagon]

we we have any weights?

[olive fulcrum]

Ilvl is king, after that I’m honestly not 100% sure

Atm I go haste>mast>vers>crit

[astral crystal]

prot mastery is considered good ye

[knotty wagon]

For DPS, i know its 50% haste, 30% crit, 10% mastery, 10% vers

stat distribution not actual combat stats

[olive fulcrum]

Yea for dps you want haste and crit

But for tanking I’m not sure

[knotty wagon]

I mean, as a prot warrior, maximizing prot dps

is that weighting

and distributio

[olive fulcrum]

Well as long as you can tank the mobs, you should go more crit and haste

Think of it as vers and mastery increases survivability

[knotty wagon]

so does crit

Crit converts 1:1 to parry

[astral crystal]

parry is rng mitigation + has DR

[olive fulcrum]

Pretty sure parry doesn’t scale as well as block though

[knotty wagon]

yeah it doesnt

[olive fulcrum]

And like between SB and Last stand you should have high block up time

Taking mastery will effectively double the blocked dmg

[royal hinge]

hello , new prot warr here. Should i take 1 brace for impact for high m+? at least for tyrannical?

its the shield slam dmg trait

[olive fulcrum]

@knotty wagon look at the FAQs there’s a resource there for you to play around with if your bothered, the rest of the tankiness vs dps discussion is probably also affect by your healer and dps abilities

Ohana take whatever offers defensive value after 3 BM and 1 DC, personally prefer IF and BS because of the leech and block reflecting dmg

[knotty wagon]

im just a mediocre tank who times +10-13

im like 9/9H 1/9 M on main

[olive fulcrum]

Imo then probably just Ilvl is king

[knotty wagon]

we farm keys enough for checking out stats

wife and I each have +14FH this wek

and we have 0 drive to push it

I'm like 411,38 equipped, theres nothing other than IO waiting for me 😦

[umbral forge]

I am losting a Warfront. End me

[knotty wagon]

which is why im leveling a warrior, BDK is boring af

[chilly brook]

Ilvl is king period pretty much both survivability and DPS wise

[knotty wagon]

Yes

we're assuming equal socket count, and ilvl

and bonus secondaries

[olive fulcrum]

Hmm I’d say trial and error then, if your min/maxing to complete low keys on time then you should be able to get away with higher crit ratings and less vers and mast

[knotty wagon]

entirely based on 2 equal pieces with different distributions of secondary

[chilly brook]

Crit is most likely your best DPS stat

[cold flame]

is there an internal cooldown to how fast overwhelming power stacks can drop?

[knotty wagon]

Yes

[chilly brook]

But in all honesty you’re probably overthinking it

[knotty wagon]

I usually just sim for dps

on every piece

[rain tapir]

Man it itches in my fingers to swap from troll to zandalari, is it really as bad as u say to go zandalari? or is it viable?

[chilly brook]

@royal hinge #268491842637660160

[olive fulcrum]

It’s kinda fun to think about it though, finding the balance between optimal dps whilst surviving enough to do dmg

[chilly brook]

All races are viable

[undone sun]

No race is unviable

Wat

[knotty wagon]

checking out the spreadsheet

[chilly brook]

No race is “bad”

They’re literally within 1% of each other

The races that is

[rain tapir]

yeah yeah u all say that but high mountain and panda is still ree

[olive fulcrum]

See where you find yourself, @glossy agate when you think you’ve found the answer codeki

[chilly brook]

Yes I say that and it’s also the

T R U T H

[umbral forge]

I lost a Warfront.
GGWP

[chilly brook]

I was a panda at the beginning of the xpac

Now I’m a blood elf

[rain tapir]

lol

[chilly brook]

No noticeable difference

[undone sun]

Won't make a difference between life or death

[rain tapir]

except u can dispel stuff and look way better doing it

[knotty wagon]

Is there a spellreflect resource