protection

[chilly brook]

And Dark Souls

Looking forward to seeing how this Microsoft partnership thing is gonna turn out

Rumors are pointing to being able to stream Xbox games on the switch

[lusty grotto]

Smash and now waiting for poke Gen 8

👍

[primal crypt]

🙆

[wary gyro]

Well my guild has decided to just go ahead and kick the bucket anyone need a new tank

[daring patrol]

This is where you snag up all the good players who still want to play and start your own guild

[daring marlin]

badum tish

[wary gyro]

Look with all the problems my guild was having trying to stay alive the last thing I want to do is try and start a new one with less people

[daring marlin]

Ya hate to see it

[sand egret]

points to head
Can't have guild drama when you're the only person in the guild...

[wary gyro]

Cant raid either

[long tinsel]

Do you guys tank paku the whole fight?

[exotic spoke]

Ieatpuppies na or eu

Heroic or mythic @long tinsel

[long tinsel]

Heroic I guess I'm not trying to do that on mythic

[exotic spoke]

I do. My guild kills paku last.

[long tinsel]

You don't swap for kimbuls bleeds?

[exotic spoke]

I sit on paku, and either a dps (DH) comes over and taunts to take one hit or we three tank it and the other tank not currently tanking swaps for a second

Yeah, or if the other tank is a dwarf / paladin you can get rid of it (pretty sure on paladin)

[glacial olive]

wtf three tank

[exotic spoke]

Makes swaps / positioning not a problem lol

We did it just fine on two, but why even deal with it

[glacial olive]

with pressing your taunt button? :/

[exotic spoke]

No, with the other tank leaving kimbul and turning the mob.

Or with the bosses getting too close as we swap and losing dps time

[glacial olive]

it can't possibly be more efficient to instead use a dps less

[long tinsel]

I've been swapping during raptors

What's pakus stacks cap at?

[exotic spoke]

I’ve done it with two tanks where I sit on paku for most of the fight except when I need to take two bleeds.

The other tank just gets destroyed and takes a lot of damage

[red wedge]

My guild is 3 tanking coven as well.

[exotic spoke]

Between bleed and not having the same mitigation we do

[red wedge]

It really does trivialize a lot of teh fight

[long tinsel]

Is there a cap on paku?

[exotic spoke]

A DH would blur and taunt to take 1 stack and I’d taunt back

40

We then started doing it where that DH (who was doing the taunt swaps) just when vengeance and it was easier.:

[long tinsel]

How bad would that hurt?

[exotic spoke]

I go to 30 ish - when Sb is down you don’t want to get hit by that

[sick sentinel]

Nice, three day weekend for me

Now for me to not push my .io

But then again, kinda want to tank m+ again

But then again, pugs

But then again, tanking is more fun then dpsing

[wary gyro]

@riki na I mainly play my pally right now

[exotic spoke]

I’ll talk to the other officers tonight. We have one possible tank recruit in the works - you’d have to be on the correct (alliance) side though

[sick sentinel]

Ok scum

[wary gyro]

I'm not 100% opposed to faction changing

[visual mist]

So question, what are you guys doing for the debuff called “tested” on Jadedire Masters? Our tank keeps getting one shot with the debuff when he picks back up the boss.

[exotic spoke]

He needs to pick up the mage

Not the monk after MSS

[visual mist]

Doesn’t the mage give stacks? And what should the other tank be tanking while the other one is up for MSS?

[exotic spoke]

So, fight starts. I take mage my co tank takes monk

Around 6 - 8 stacks or so (when they leap away to do their kick / pyro) we swap. I’m on monk and he’s on mage

I go up, for MSS. The other tank is on mage

I come down, my stacks are gone. I take mage and he takes monk

[wise mirage]

how good is opulence trinket

for prot warrior?

[exotic spoke]

Best for survival assuming equal Ilvl

[wise mirage]

got a 400

didnt drop in mythic yet

[steel mauve]

you just swap on the monk tank mechanic

and let the mages debuffs drop when they expire

[exotic spoke]

You can - but Jesus getting that high on stacks hurts

Yeah pretty much we end up swapping every time after that where dots drop

[daring marlin]

@exotic spoke bop and divine shield does not clear kimbul dot

[exotic spoke]

Then only dwarf does

Thanks for that clarification

[daring marlin]

Stoneform and Fireblood both do

I was getting up to 4 stacks and cleansing them off

[red wedge]

The monk does minimal damage outside of tested debuff.

So you really should be prioritizing swaps on flame debuff, like Riki said. Then only worry about not tanking while you're Tested.

10 stacks was almost one shotting some people in my raid.. especially during last phase.

[exotic spoke]

^^ keep stacks low

[red wedge]

The opening sequence Riki explained is exactly what we do, too.

[exotic spoke]

Warriors can spell reflect one of the applications as well

[red wedge]

Yea

[celest granite]

ee

[chilly brook]

@exotic spoke I’d offer to be your tank but you’re playing on the wrong faction 😉

[exotic spoke]

Eh, you say that. But you don’t have space goats so it’s hard to agree with you

[chilly brook]

I hear space goats are prone to becoming genocidal zealots 😉

[exotic spoke]

With those booty claps boiiiii

[supple plover]

Man if 10 stacks are one shotting your raid i think something is weird. My guild does it abnormally and do 15-20 stacks in the last phase with no deaths from the stacks exploding.

[exotic spoke]

Better healers or players then? But why would you do that when lower swaps are easier?

[supple plover]

Healers preferred 2-3 large hits then 6-8 medium

[exotic spoke]

Eh, healers don’t deserve opinions /s

[glacial olive]

Pog

[supple plover]

Personally i like it. Makes things spicer when you have to hold the bird that long.

[analog swift]

Yeah my co tank and I are too dumb and just swap when debuff falls

[dapper hearth]

Hey could i get some opinions on which trinket I should use, I've got Jes' Howler 400 ilvl and recently got Rezan's with a Socket(also 400 ilvl). I have Diamond Laced Refracting Prism from opulence, with a socket at 385. Mainly for tanking m+

I'd think the haste from Rezan's is really good but the Versa gain is like another defensive and offensive CD.

[neon tangle]

@red wedge But what about my parses

I need the monk debuff

[real thunder]

Quick question, is there consensus for what stats are best for dealing damage in M+? Haste/Mastery or Haste/Vers?

[exotic spoke]

Assuming equal level the diamond is the best defensive

I don’t know about the difference of a 15 Ilvl lower diamond though

[neon tangle]

@real thunder For however accurate simc is, prolly haste/crit

https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#warrior_protection?data_view=secondary_distributions&fight_style=hecticaddcleave

[dapper hearth]

@exotic spoke True, the socket on the Diamond does help a bit though I guess till i get a 400ilvl. Mainly just not sure between the Rezans and the Jes' Howler

[neon tangle]

Looking at it it leans haste on ST, and hectic add cleave is adds 40% of the fight, so I'd wager that crit pulls ahead in m+

[real thunder]

@neon tangle thanks!

[neon tangle]

BUT!

before you go

[exotic spoke]

I’d use rezans personally

[neon tangle]

I'd still, given equal ilvl, go for haste

personally

[exotic spoke]

Socket on it

[neon tangle]

even if it's marginally less good for damage

[dapper hearth]

@exotic spoke I'll give Rezan's a shot then, thank you 😃

[exotic spoke]

Socket plusbhaste is pretty good

You’re welcome.

[sick sentinel]

@real thunder haste/mastery

[tired cove]

you know i used bloodmallet all the time, but i never thought about looking at the equip part at the bvottom thats pretty interesting, and i have all those pieces i wanna try it out now 🤔

[sick sentinel]

i don't think i've ever used bloodmallet

like

as a thing

[ember granite]

does deafning crash's dmg stack?

[naive panther]

so i have been using 400, vial and everchill, great combo, but I just got a rezan's, all 400, struggling to decide what to use

wish sims could easily tell me

obviously i use vial every other avatar

[undone sun]

The additional damage does, yes @ember granite

[ember granite]

k thanks

[naive panther]

sims put rezans higher than vial paired with everychill, but doubt it gets lined up properly

[sick sentinel]

procs don't line up reliably until you don't need them to

it's basic science

[naive panther]

so keep using what im using since the sim doesn't take my lining it up into account likely?

i could see vial with rezans working, but everchill is such nice damage

[sand egret]

I’d personally run Rezan’s/Everchill in that scenario. More GCDs > More Claps > More Anchor procs 😃

[daring marlin]

I got a couple high ad keys to do

Hope I get a high ilvl rezan’s!

[unborn island]

does intervening the devour on rezan work like it did with fenryr's 'maul' attack?

ie- basically trivialise the whole thing?

[abstract pelican]

For mythic+ I've got a 400 diamond laced trinket. Now I'm debating a 415 alchemy trinket vs 400 vial of animated blood

[hallow phoenix]

Animated blood for that big damage

[calm trout]

yo..what are bis traits for m+?

[lusty grotto]

#268491842637660160 icy veins guide

2nd list is our M+ traits

[ocean acorn]

just roll random and get bis

[calm trout]

Thaanks 😃

[ocean acorn]

nim

[lusty grotto]

yup whats up

[ocean acorn]

whats the best shoulders for m+

sky scorcher?

[sick sentinel]

the ones with bom on it

[lusty grotto]

im using kraken shell

[sick sentinel]

same tbh

wait they are the one with metricoulus scheming

dude that trait

I took it off

I miss it already

[ocean acorn]

im currently using sky scorcher and desert breastplate

and engi helm

[lusty grotto]

yeah but i have them at BoM + DC

[sick sentinel]

I have DC on my eng helm

[ocean acorn]

nim u play smasH?

[sick sentinel]

because I don't like BS

[lusty grotto]

i like the extra clap

i havent in about 2 weeks but sure

[ocean acorn]

i like BS

for some dungeons

[lusty grotto]

gotta get ready soon, work is making friday tourneys

[sick sentinel]

when your IP reaches 72k

it's a bit too much

[lusty grotto]

not sure who to main now

[sick sentinel]

⛈

👏

[lusty grotto]

in smash i mean

[sick sentinel]

oh

smUsh?

[ocean acorn]

im in the same boat dude

[lusty grotto]

i need a good link counter

[sick sentinel]

I would tell you

[calm trout]

btw its obv that we get nerfed..but how hard u think :D?

[sick sentinel]

but it's not melee

so it doesn't matter lul

[lusty grotto]

i really wanna main poke trainer

[ocean acorn]

dew eet

[sick sentinel]

bulb is so fucking broken

[lusty grotto]

lol

[sick sentinel]

actually

#off-topic

[lusty grotto]

im also kinda thinking about maining pikachu

yeah lets drop it haha

there's no indication on nerfs @calm trout

[calm trout]

i guess our overall dps in m+ is.

[lusty grotto]

and no reason to fear them

no actually

because as soon as s2 is over, and they come up with a new seasonal, our dps will be slightly lower

unless of course if its another affix that makes us tank loads of adds

[sick sentinel]

thing is

even our 5-6 mob damage is good

[lusty grotto]

true

[sick sentinel]

or like 10 mobs

2 packs

[lusty grotto]

but that's our "utility"

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[lusty grotto]

i honestly think, if there is a nerf planned, it will be a small one

if it comes to that

[sick sentinel]

we have been doing meme amounts of damage since like 8.1

like the day 8.1 dropped, I went full on damage mode and started clapping shit

because of BoM

[lusty grotto]

i mean

on zul alone

but it really depends on how big we can pull

[sick sentinel]

if they intended to nerf us, they would have something in 8.1.5

[daring marlin]

idk

8.2

the reckoning cometh

[sturdy trench]

well 8.15 i see warriors rainign supreme still

any ideas on how strong zandalar trolls will be for warr tank?

[lusty grotto]

not strong at all

[daring marlin]

Warriors could have easily pushed super high M+ before(some did) but oh well they never listened to us!

[lusty grotto]

since regen is broken by dmg

[daring marlin]

It'll be opop in arena for certain classes

prepare to be angry in arena

err

more angry

😃

[sturdy trench]

i mean the bwonsamdi aspect

[lusty grotto]

stealth classes you mean :p

[sturdy trench]

the one that damages per ability

that it stack aoe wise

like tghe trinket from jaina

[lusty grotto]

shrug

[sturdy trench]

?

[daring marlin]

I might make my lightforged a zandalari paladin

or just level my elf and make him one

idk

[lusty grotto]

honestly im ok with being nerfed, get those rerollers off my lawn

im still gonna be around 😃

[daring marlin]

He's 112 and I'm just

waiting for next week

timewalking/new heirlooms

[lusty grotto]

strinkin rerollers

[daring marlin]

I'll always be there

with my prot bois

[lusty grotto]

clenches fist and shouts at clouds like Bladesong

[daring marlin]

It's not the same

you're not ancient!

[lusty grotto]

roflll

[umbral forge]

I get happy when I answer a question and bladesong replies with "^" to my response

[potent anvil]

To be fair, prot warr dmg is a meme. Even if the dmg portion gets nerfed, they still take less dmg than other tanks in m+

[daring marlin]

I just love that people were like man it don't matter we won't be brought for pushes no matter what cuz no utility

It keeps me alive

The whacky shit people say. 😃

[golden wadi]

WTB same meme damage treatment for dps warriors.

[umbral forge]

If you go 1x DC 3x BoM 2x Reckless Flurry Devastator buff do you think our ST burst would be better than fury warrior's? 🤔

[daring marlin]

no

[neon tangle]

@sick sentinel hard to say, they let BDK and monk go the whole tier

[glad sparrow]

Hey guys, quick question. So my guild is having troubles with heroic conclave and ive been thinking of switching to impeding victory for a quick heal to keep me up. Is this worth losing the haste from the other talent? I tend to be sitting at about 50% after winds for a consdierable amount of time.

[neon tangle]

Could very well be 8.2 before they address anything

[lusty grotto]

@glad sparrow please dont

[astral crystal]

lol

if not a troll then your healers need to coordinate their CDs a little better

[lusty grotto]

if your guild is having trouble, its not you, its them

[oblique garnet]

@daring marlin I preached that warrior would be top tier in m+ and i was laughed at NOW LOOK AT ME PEASANTS!

[daring marlin]

SAME DUDE

[lusty grotto]

tell them to make sure they don't overlap abilities etc, by killing at specific moments

[daring marlin]

muh utility doe

[lusty grotto]

SAME

[oblique garnet]

also i got my prot to sim 17k in patchwerk

by choosing alot of cheese

devastator simmed only 47 more dps than bv tho

[lusty grotto]

was it patchwerk?

[undone sun]

Single target no movement

[glad sparrow]

Thanks guys

[oblique garnet]

Yes nim it was patchwerk

[undone sun]

Oh thought you said what, though he did say it was patchwerk in the first line

😉

[oblique garnet]

But like theres no real situation where you would run those traits in actual raid

So i settle for my 16.4k sim with actual defensive traits

[umbral forge]

@glad sparrow my guild struggled with H Conclave until we changed kill order.
Doing Gonk>Kimbul>Akunda>Paku is super easy with a good prot Warrior on Heroic.

[glad sparrow]

thanks i might suggest it.

[umbral forge]

Do you have any logs?
Where do you usually die?

[oblique garnet]

@glad sparrow youre most likely lacking healing cds, or overlapping them how many healers do you have?

[glad sparrow]

3 d priest h preist monk

[oblique garnet]

4 priests and a monk?🤔

[umbral forge]

No

[narrow abyss]

@primal crypt did u vod a WCM run yet<3

[glad sparrow]

2 preists and a monk

[umbral forge]

1 disc priest
1 holy Priest
Monk

[glad sparrow]

i see where i fucked that up haha

[oblique garnet]

Hmm so you have 2cds from holy priest

Are you lusting on pull and in what order are you killing the boss?

@narrow abyss you want the rogue trick to open the doors or?

[glad sparrow]

lust on kimbul and we down him 3rd

[oblique garnet]

Oh

That would do it

Kimbul needs to die asap

So 2nd

The bleeds from kimbul are painful

[glad sparrow]

ill suggest it

[narrow abyss]

yeah the rogue trick to open left side

and also the shrine mini boss skips 😃

the only thing im not 100% on is when he was saying something about how it triggers witches

[oblique garnet]

@narrow abyss check out ashines stream iirc he has a rogue pov from the trick and a vod

[narrow abyss]

got it

yamo said something about aggroing witches and they all spawn first room

which im wondering if i misheard

[oblique garnet]

But tbf its not really needed

This week you can do relatively massive pulls even if you get the right side

I did 15 wcm earlier with friends who are not as geared as i am and we just pulled the entire raal room without lust and killed them easilt

[lucid glen]

Do we want one str gem and then all haste? Or just straight haste?

[sick sentinel]

haste

[lucid glen]

kk ty

[lusty grotto]

hmm this is weird

i cant use the wago thing for MDT

[exotic spoke]

How’s freehold this week?

[lusty grotto]

doesnt let me select mobs

[sick sentinel]

it's fun

[lusty grotto]

at least for siege

hmm

i guess its broken for teeming

[oblique garnet]

@exotic spoke freehold is 3 chestable up until 16

With pugs

[exotic spoke]

Awesome thanks

[lusty grotto]

he forgot (in EU)

[exotic spoke]

We’ll see. It’s a lower key that I’m running with friends who don’t run many keys

[oblique garnet]

cmon na pugs cant be that bad

[lusty grotto]

im kidding MURICA

[exotic spoke]

Ehhhh

Eeeeehhhhh - I refuse to pug

[lusty grotto]

coughpussycough

😉

i kid i kid

[exotic spoke]

Nah, I just don’t care enough. They wouldn’t take me last tier so fuck em

They all wanted meta groups

[lusty grotto]

riki needs diffusal

jesus its been like 3 years that i havent played dota2

i stopped playing just before the talent thingies came out

just found out there's a new hero called mars

[exotic spoke]

I don’t do mobas. Maybe I should play csgo and see how terrible I am now that I haven’t played in 3 years

[lusty grotto]

lies

that should be your avatar pic, then when dota players ask you could tell them you dont play mobas for maximum confusion

[oblique garnet]

@lusty grotto are we gonna do teamchip revival on tournament realm

[lusty grotto]

lol

i thought that was over

[oblique garnet]

It might be back on

I actually applied to some jobs that are on usa

[lusty grotto]

really

[outer dew]

WOW

betrayed

[lusty grotto]

lol

[outer dew]

was gonna move to europe

and have you be my sugar daddy

[oblique garnet]

Yeah i still cant tell if youre girl or a boy

Applying to college in the states costs money?? Wtf

[astral crystal]

rule of thumb

if you cant tell, it's most certainly a dude

[undone sun]

I know some people go by, if you can't tell why does it matter

[astral crystal]

in this case the cycling of cute korean girl avatars is a dead giveaway

nah i dont care im just shitposting

[oblique garnet]

Same i know its a guy

I hope

[outer dew]

wdym

i don't use many korean girls

i use a variety of girls

[oblique garnet]

Tofu be my sugardaddy and when i get enough money i will be yours 8)

[lusty grotto]

where @chilly brook at

[sick sentinel]

@lusty grotto

come play with me

[lusty grotto]

i need me a tank

[sick sentinel]

yikes it's kinda funny im like

a whole rogue

[lusty grotto]

if only weep the warrior tank could come

[oblique garnet]

Weep is alive?

I miss weep

[sick sentinel]

I'm weep @oblique garnet

[lusty grotto]

yes rip weep

F

[oblique garnet]

F

[oblique garnet]

She was a good warrior now shes gone but not forgotten

[sick sentinel]

im back boys

[lusty grotto]

lol

[oblique garnet]

Lies

I dont want to be hurt again

[sick sentinel]

my rogue has more heart level than my warrior after 2 days

[lusty grotto]

you wanna tank FH 6?

for the chipadin

[sick sentinel]

only if like

you understand

that i don't have any weakauras

and my ui is

like

[lusty grotto]

its FH

[sick sentinel]

default.

ok im 384 dude

[oblique garnet]

Its a 6

[lusty grotto]

thats fine

[sick sentinel]

im wearing 2 pieces of uldir gear

[lusty grotto]

you lied to me

[oblique garnet]

Weep why did you quit playing warrior anyways🤔

[sick sentinel]

my warrior is on hyjal

because i have 3 120s on area 52

[oblique garnet]

@lusty grotto you gonna carry my warrior thats 120?

[lusty grotto]

😮

[sick sentinel]

i will

because i'm cool

[oblique garnet]

The druid was just to throw you off the scent so i can overtake NA m+ scene

[sullen drift]

why most warrios are going haste > crit = mastery the criticall is for more revenges?

[oblique garnet]

@sullen drift most likely going for the highest item lvl pieces they get and with the rng system your stats can be all over the place

[calm trout]

m+ stat prio is still haste>vers>mastery?

[oblique garnet]

@calm trout ilvl>haste>rest dont matter

[naive panther]

I have amazing haste. But if I ever start getting titanforges I know that will change

[calm trout]

5 GS>Haste?

[sullen drift]

for example i was watching nerfclap stream and noticed that he is doing more HPS than the healer at some packs is critical affects ignore pain?

[oblique garnet]

On what piece?

Nerfclap is running leech build

For god knows why

He has 2 bloodsport and siphoning

[sullen drift]

yeah he has like 10.5 % leach

[oblique garnet]

Yeah i wouldnt recommend it

[sullen drift]

but why so much crit?

it affects leech?

[oblique garnet]

I mean the more damage you do the more you heal with leech

Crit is not a bad stat for m+ since you get alot of parries that negate damage on big pulls

[sullen drift]

and more free revenges

[daring marlin]

You’re a crit

[sullen drift]

im gonna try that build in order to unserstand it correctly

[modern brook]

@primal crypt wtf man

[oblique garnet]

Why are you bullying yamo

[sick sentinel]

@oblique garnet we just did the best freehold run

0 deaths

+3 chest

[lusty grotto]

carried a shammy with hpal dps

[modern brook]

cause he isnt fucking streaming

[sick sentinel]

@lusty grotto m

get in here

[modern brook]

😬

[sand egret]

O_O

[modern brook]

^

8.0 flashbacks amirite

[lusty grotto]

i cant, talking to someone on other discord

[sick sentinel]

dont care

rather

i care minimally

as the bare necessity of being a friend

[modern brook]

I care immensely tbh

[sick sentinel]

i am saying i don't care about him being in another discord and that he should join us

[lusty grotto]

ill join when im done

[sick sentinel]

im about to cry

@modern brook do u care if i stream btw :^)

[modern brook]

xD

[signal plover]

U guys rly need ur own discord or some shit

[oblique garnet]

@modern brook shame on you

[lusty grotto]

we just demolished a KR 13

[modern brook]

WHOA

[lusty grotto]

carried this 5k dps warrior so hard

with alts

[modern brook]

yeah alts :^)

[oblique garnet]

Nim

[chilly brook]

@lusty grotto you called?

Sorry I was on a flight

[oblique garnet]

You know weep was streaming right and i could see everything?

[chilly brook]

everything?

[modern brook]

So you saw how nim let me down at every turn

[oblique garnet]

I saw some spicy quaking clipping

[chilly brook]

You really don’t wanna see me play rn tbh

[oblique garnet]

Hold on let me actually check if i still have some gametime left on my na account

[warm plinth]

Phew, that balance druid dps

[dense flame]

so i just got absolutely wrecked in KR 15 on trash post 2nd boss.

the casters did so much dmg.

[umbral forge]

https://i.imgur.com/sfL8U8I.png
this was fun

[dense flame]

for those pushing keys. Do you tend to pull that hallway pretty safely? or do you still grab certain packs together

[floral spade]

anyone have a site or advice on haste cap? i know there is none but any point where verse mast becomes more worth or nah

[undone sun]

nope

[steel mauve]

they dont, vers over takes mastery when the damage intake is less than 85% blockable

[chilly brook]

@dense flame in KR on fort always pull safely imo

[modern brook]

xd

pull safew

[crisp pecan]

did wm 17 yesterday, holy shiet, these big magggot pulls hurts

[oblique garnet]

@modern brook mission failed we’ll get them nextime

[modern brook]

im

OMEGA triggered

[oblique garnet]

I mean

Idk what to say xDd

I have no words to describe

What actually happened in that run

[modern brook]

I def made some mistakes

but my mistakes were like positioning >.>

and timing the 20% reap

[warm plinth]

Was that Late's balance druid doing 2.3k DPS in a ML earlier?

[modern brook]

2.3m DPS yeah

[oblique garnet]

Yeah 115 balance druid

[warm plinth]

Super sexy

[oblique garnet]

Big blastee

@modern brook nah the timing for the reaping got kinda fucked by the 2 golems

Im so confused as to why a dk would be standing so far back in m+

[modern brook]

idk man

i think if we pulled the big pack instead of the 3rd small one

we woulda got reap right then

and not have had such a shit timing

[sick sentinel]

it's okay

we'll get the reap tomorrow

[outer dew]

lol

or you just reap on boss

smh

[chilly brook]

I’m sad that I missed the party in discord voice earlier 😥

[ember arrow]

@junior ivy 👋

[sick sentinel]

@chilly brook we're doing keys tomorrow

[chilly brook]

I’ve got a r6 tournament match tomorrow

[sick sentinel]

sux

[ember arrow]

Epic gamer

[elder summit]

guys what are the best trinkets for tank m+?

i have the opulence trinket

[umbral forge]

I love my anchor.
I think butchers block is gd for it

[unborn island]

Anchor, butcher's block, knot of ancient fury, Rezan

Vial is good for an on-used

[elder summit]

when you say anchor

you mean jaina trinket?

[hollow thorn]

yes

[willow scarab]

On use trinket is giga honestly I suggest some thing for demand pumping

[gilded fable]

hey, would you suggest taking a second [Deafening Crash] over my first [Callous Reprisal] for M+

[fickle juniper]

Is it just me who finds it annoying when I manage to pull all the mobs together in M+ and then a druid uses blowback?

honestly want to know if Im in the wrong or not

[glad stump]

Depends on the situation i'd say

[broken kite]

if there's no reason for it

yeah really annoying

usually people use it to interupt etc

[sick sentinel]

@steel mauve you are fake news

@steel mauve 85% blockable is such a random number

[unborn island]

mythic champion - if you use spellrreflect at the end of Prayer, will that clear your stacks, or do you need to go for a run?

[crisp pecan]

finally

[sick sentinel]

For me it's 68% where they are even

[unborn island]

nice

[sick sentinel]

@fickle juniper depends on the situation but you can have them use vortex and then typhoon them away so it simulates dk mass grip

[fickle juniper]

having problems with pugs letting me have aggro. Usually open with charge-demo-avater-clap etc But that means I dont put out dmg till 3 GCD's after I have pulled by which time the dps are popping off and ranged aggroin mobs out of place

[modest wedge]

one thunderclap after avatar is enough to get agggro

[last cloud]

no really

[fickle juniper]

can I block attacks if they are from behind me??

[last cloud]

no

[sick sentinel]

you avatar before the charge

then you charge-clap-demo-clap

[unborn island]

On Mythic champion - do I need to go for a run during the long cast, or will using SR at the end be enough to reset my stacks? About to do it in a pug and don't want to wreck it 😃

[dusty pasture]

ask someone to go tank spec

its way easier with 3 tanks

even if the third one is undergeared, u can just let them taunt till the stacks reset

[eager hedge]

Have offtank taunt during long cast, when stacks drop, taunt back. Thats what we do at least (:

[dusty pasture]

yeah exactly

[unborn island]

yeah - we got 3 tanks

guess i'm just gonna sit there and dps the boss until it dies

occasionally taunting it 😃

[dusty pasture]

enjoy the free gear 😄

[unborn island]

i'll be bonus rolling, anything that drops will be a good upgrade for me 😃

[round vortex]

Hey guys - mythic jadefire - can you heroic leap of the rings of peace? I've always used a lock gate on heroic

[unborn island]

got the hands, the smallest upgrade for me, but ridic easy boss

[eager hedge]

Yes baratus

Just dont stand too close when you leap

[round vortex]

Ok cool. Jsut trying to pick the ideal players to pick up orbs on jadefire

[fickle juniper]

is there a list of what spells I can reflect for bosses in m+??

[ebon hound]

#268491842637660160

[jagged bay]

hello everyone have a nice weekend:)

[olive merlin]

Engineering or Alchemy you think? I have one crafting slot open.

[jovial haven]

engineering is good for the helms and bres option, but alchemy gives longer flasks, can make own flasks and pots, and even trinket

[jolly stag]

Hello I was wondering whether or not there is a cap on how much haste you want (I mainly play M+)?
Eg. My stats are:

Haste: 1241
Vers: 1064
Mastery: 604
Crit: 473

and I currently stand between the choice of equipping a pair of haste/ vers pants, or a pair of mastery vers pants - same ilvl. So the question is whether or not it is worth to equip the haste vers pants when my mastery is so much lower than my haste. Thanks in advance! 😃

[sick sentinel]

no

same ilevel haste >

other than that

number of stats is more important than the stat type itself

[analog swift]

@unborn island after the prayer there’s a wave then spell reflect gg

[jolly stag]

Thanks @sick sentinel

[sick sentinel]

np

[steel mauve]

@sick sentinel

[junior ivy]

@ember arrow hi

[sick sentinel]

What is y’alls effective uptime on shield block in raid

@steel mauve https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JqgDgX8PlBW5a4roR9S0TUUnukGrl-2JuvwFFhn2egM/edit#gid=0

that is with my gear

@sick sentinel it can depend, I tend to spam it during LS for the extra damage but I can almost always have it up when a boss is on me and not the OT, I'd say 30-40ish %

Compared to a raid scenario where u effective time up isn't the same as it would be in m+, it can have factors you have to consider

But I honestly wouldn't worry too much, even in mythic u can take a few clean hits without anything up

[wise mirage]

Anyone got a mythic jaina log with the opulence trinket?

wanna see how much damage it nigated over the course of the fight

[sick sentinel]

Don't think most of us are 9/9 yet

I know a few are on mekka/storm

Best if u just check the WCL website

[wise mirage]

I see

damn

its that good?

[sick sentinel]

Very

it's 415

insane

scales with both vers and haste

If I could, I'd try to get it and rezans at least 400 ilvl

so it gets really good with gear

[wise mirage]

I only have it 400

:/

i bonusrolled opu but no luck

[sick sentinel]

Could consider running dps trinks on Jaina. Depends on your off tank

[wise mirage]

its progression and we havent hit p3 yet

probably safer to go with def trinkets

[sick sentinel]

Was going say

If ur progging damage might not be worth it

Safer yes, but often not the most effective strat

[wise mirage]

most effective strat would be the limit strat OMEGALUL

with the bl pre pull

how ppl create these strats

is beyond me

[sick sentinel]

I can tell you

[wise mirage]

400 IQ

[sick sentinel]

You pussh the game to it's possible max

I tend to just let the boss hit me until it dies

I care little for more damage as a tank, if I need it I can sac my IF/BFI for BoMs

Unfortunately, the damage trinkets for plate isn't like uldir, feels more stat focused and less damage

[wise mirage]

well to get more background behind my story

I am a main DPS

but both of our tanks just left after stormwall

for different reasons

and now 2 main dps have to tank jaina

[sick sentinel]

That's

Odd

Good luck brother

[wise mirage]

them leaving is not connected with each other tho

they both left for different reasons than the other one

one not having fun with wow anymore

the other just being a dick

Being a mythic + tank getting loot from the raid and then just leaving once you have the stuff you wanted

[sick sentinel]

Not having fun in the current tier is a personal issue imo. Blizzard did a good job with this raid

[wise mirage]

its probably not about the raid

but rather BFA

and how WoW changed after legion

like mythic + being multiple times harder than in legion

looting much quicker

[compact siren]

Is endless hunger azerite trait (flat 300 versa) worth taking over a second deafening crash?

i did the math, turns out 300 versa is pretty good

[sick sentinel]

If you are going for damage, I would say no.

my healer is streaming today so we can have the vods for late pog

Versa offers a bit of damage reduction, so that is nice.

[compact siren]

to be fair, its 3% damage + 1,5% damage reduc

[sick sentinel]

Yes, but in everything I’ve simmed DC comes out on top

Offensively speaking

A 1.5% damage reduction is going to save you in very few situations

[compact siren]

i guess

[sick sentinel]

To each their own, but DC is a chad trait and should be taken advantage of while we still have this power

[compact siren]

minor health gain from each enemy killed (5k)

[sick sentinel]

In a m+ situation that could help

[compact siren]

triple deafening crash sounds mighty tempting

i already have triple azerite veins

though

[sick sentinel]

It is nuts. I run 3 DC in m+

[compact siren]

ok u convinced me

two bastion of might one ignore pain triple DC

[sick sentinel]

Is my exact stack in m+

[compact siren]

ignore pain + bastion is my jam

[sick sentinel]

If played well you should be right up with your dps in overall damage

[compact siren]

i like the synergy

[sick sentinel]

Yes those traits do compliment each other well.traits you take also depends on your m+ comp

[hasty quest]

guys

i have some issues on holding aggro without avatar

i really need help cause my Dh always die

ill charge->TC->shockwave->TC

[sterile notch]

Does he eye beam on pull?

[hasty quest]

not every pull

the big ones

i struggle on pull of 3 mobs without avatar

[onyx abyss]

Tell him u dont have avatar n chill

[ebon hound]

without avatar you should be able to fit more globals between each thunderclap, also skull-marking and taunting that target but shield slamming the others tend to work well

provided your dps actually target skull

[hasty quest]

im feel much better with dk, that is strange

what i ve seen from streaming on high key is that no onw have threat issue

[sick sentinel]

Do you use deafening crash traits?

[hasty quest]

yes

2x BOM + 1x DC + 1xIF

[narrow abyss]

Well the streamers have rogues for tricks

[lusty grotto]

you shouldn't have problems

whats your ilvl

and whats his ilvl?

[narrow abyss]

I don’t know if third global shockwave is necessary for pulls of 3. And in my experience I only periodically lose aggro to DH if he’s chaos strike tunneling something random, but then it’s an issue of one mob that a taunt can fix. I personally don’t have issues

[lusty grotto]

if his ilvl is greater, that's the issue

[narrow abyss]

Yeah honestly it’s probably ilvl

No warrior changes for 8.1.5 🤗

[hasty quest]

im 406 and Dh its 412

[lusty grotto]

dont invite that dh

problem solved

screw his luck :p

wait that sounded wrong

[fallow spear]

which stats you run to tank?

[lusty grotto]

#268491842637660160

icy veins guide

[narrow abyss]

Icy veins it

[lusty grotto]

but in short, we run the ilvl stat

[narrow abyss]

Guy who maintains this discord wrote it

Ilvl trumps all. Equal ilvl, prioritize haste

Goddamnit nim you’re beating me to punch every time

[wicked ginkgo]

I'm in full 385 azerite. Worth to buy 2 400 or wait for next week to get my 415?

[narrow abyss]

Get 415 imo. You can pug heroic easily first few

And get 400s

[late cedar]

Would you guys drop from a 415 to a 400 piece just to pick up a 3rd bom? My head and heart say no but I wanna hear someone say it so I'm not fully consumed by the meme

[fierce juniper]

No, I wouldn't

Well, generally speaking at least

what are the traits on the 415

[flint tiger]

Is "Servant Splitter" (1hand axe from WM) anything you'd think of using over any other same ilv weapon?

[fierce juniper]

Nope. No secondaries

[fossil spindle]

Its a trap

[flint tiger]

Thank you. How high do I rate sockets as a tank?

[fierce juniper]

At this point they're generally worth less than 5 ilvls, so always take socketed gear if its the same ilvl, otherwise take higher ilvl

[late cedar]

Boi and something else, it's not a bad 415

[flint tiger]

Thank you, glad to have it confirmed.

[viral cove]

Only 5 ilvls on sockets? Is that bro science? Or esti-math? Data would be more pertinent than guestimations.

[narrow abyss]

Haha

[bold zinc]

3x bom 1x dc or 3xdc 1xBom

[fierce juniper]

If you consider all stats to be roughly equal in value, which they more or less are, a 5 item level upgrade nets you more total stats over a socket.

[wicked ginkgo]

Bom

[viral cove]

Depends..you want more dps for M+ or raid? Sockets are > 5 ilvl diff...you want more stamps for health pool, go higher ilvl

[wicked ginkgo]

Sockets dont provide armor

[viral cove]

1 DC max really... you dont need 3

Sockets can provide more mastery, vers, etc...no gear provides armor

[narrow abyss]

Huh

[wicked ginkgo]

Higher item level gives more armor...?

[steel mauve]

only time its considered to take a socket is on rings and possibly cloak, every thing else generally outweights a socket due to the amount of stats and armor they provide

[bold zinc]

Any news on prot dmg nerf or?

[narrow abyss]

Nothing yet

[wicked ginkgo]

Dont nerf prot buff the rest pls

[bold zinc]

Cause i enjoy clappin

[wicked ginkgo]

Guardian druid buff when

[narrow abyss]

I’m ok with alittle damage nerf honestly

If it happens it happens

BOM trait tweak

[sick sentinel]

No changes worth noting in 8.1.5

So keep stacking those DCs and flex on the dps bois

im awake

again

@lusty grotto

how are u doing

[halcyon oasis]

Which of these trinkets would you guys run? I do M+ & BoD.

Rezan's gleaming eye - ilvl 395
Diamond-Laced Refracting Prism - ilvl 400
Jes' Howler - ilvl 410
Big Red Button - ilvl 410 with +40 haste gem

I'm running Jes' Howler & Diamond-laced Refracting Prism right now. Equipped ilvl is 408 & 19% haste with currently equipped gear and 0 stacks of into the fray.

[fierce juniper]

Howler and Prism assuming you're using Howler at a good time, otherwise Rezan's over Howler

[halcyon oasis]

I spam Howler on trash packs and combo with lust in M+ and usually on pull/lust in raid or when things are hairy

[sick sentinel]

Howler is arguably the best trinket you could use

[late cedar]

How do you guys cycle cds on 15ish (or higher) level blade combo last boss kr (on tyr)

[lusty grotto]

what do you mean

just Shield Block

cycle cds for blade combo? why

[dense flame]

Shield block will suffice there. Maybe use shield wall for second fear if you don’t have a fear totem or something.

And are worried about getting hit.

[narrow abyss]

Just maintain block for blade combo

Should be enough. It’s not like BDK 😂

[iron totem]

merekta or bigredbutton?

or briny?

1slot is for rezan

[narrow abyss]

Briny ain’t bad. It’s decent. But I think probably whatever is highest ilvl

[sturdy sable]

i use a briney beacuse its 415

if it wasnt i wouldnt use it lol

[sick sentinel]

I think wow is trying to tell me something

[iron totem]

all 400,big is 405

[sick sentinel]

I wake up today to the BEST NEWS EVER

All my ui has been reset

[sturdy sable]

now you get to enjoy setting it all up again!

[sick sentinel]

Now I have to spend the next 3 hours making sure my hotbar is perfectly aligned with the corner of my screen and the game

And making sure the top doesn't overlap

And thats just 1 bar

[sturdy sable]

yeah i break out a 6 inch ruler every time i set up a UI

[narrow abyss]

😐

[bold zinc]

I download elvuis from wago

Lol

[sick sentinel]

So instead of doing a 10 today on my druid and warrior, im going to order some food and spend the day fixing a fucking bar

[wicked ginkgo]

Download ealign

[sick sentinel]

A FUCKING BAR

[warm plinth]

When you get it setup, you should copy your WTF folder (or whichever one saves that shit)

That way if it happens again, you just pull in the backup

[sick sentinel]

Shut up please

[warm plinth]

❤

[sick sentinel]

I am going to kill everyone and then myself

[warm plinth]

Uhhh

[sick sentinel]

If I could beat everyone to the finish line first I would

[warm plinth]

casts Shield Block

[bold zinc]

I dont use ignore pain cause i am emo

[late cedar]

gotcha i usually do it as dps in higher and i always see tanks getting rocked so getting nervous to tank it lolol

[warm plinth]

Blockable mechanics are usually a lot less harsh on warrior tanks

[narrow abyss]

Ya

[vague estuary]

any good toys that procc into the fray?

found some but they are not amazing

[warm plinth]

I don't know that you really need anything to proc it. Should have friendly melee or enemies near you at all times I would think. That being said, the target dummy type ones should work, though obviously you would have to be next to them.

Archmage Vargoth's Spare Staff works as well

[vague estuary]

ya i binded archmage

into some stuff

[warm plinth]

Seems to be the only one that's on a short CD that works. The rest are anywhere from 10 mins to an hour

[olive merlin]

I love how solid my warrior feels compared to my BDK. My BDK gives me sphincter factor 14 sometimes

[sick sentinel]

@modern brook I'll be gud in a couple hours

[oblique garnet]

@modern brook you still tilted?

[sick sentinel]

Crit or mastery

[lusty grotto]

ilvl

[rapid wren]

which 415 azerite piece do i go for first guys 😄

[sick sentinel]

@lusty grotto but in this case they're same ilvl 😃

[lusty grotto]

oh

well both are good

[sick sentinel]

@oblique garnet hi

[oblique garnet]

@sick sentinel hi

[sick sentinel]

@oblique garnet

I'll help u sell boosts btw

what's your eu io

[oblique garnet]

2.2k

But my druid is only 116

[warm plinth]

But already rocking 2.4k DPS

💪

[supple path]

Hrm, same ilvl, knot of ancient fury > gore-crusted block?

[sick sentinel]

@oblique garnet we can do MDI together next time B)

[oblique garnet]

idk

[rapid wren]

which random azerite piece should i go for? helm, chest or shoulders?

[oblique garnet]

whats your lowest and what traits do you have?

[rapid wren]

all 385

df/bom on helm

[supple path]

All else being equal, I'd say shoulders > helm > chest

[rapid wren]

if/ bfi on shoulders

'

[oblique garnet]

you can get chest from first boss in bod

[rapid wren]

if/ bm on chest

[supple path]

Pretty easy to pug the first boss even on mythic so yeah.

[oblique garnet]

^

get shoulders

[rapid wren]

thanks you guys rock

skyscorcher pauldrons

[sick sentinel]

late declines me

qq

[rapid wren]

are skyscorcher pauldron's bis?

[daring marlin]

They’re good imo

I have two. 😎

[rapid wren]

do i take bfi or uc in the second row? (mostly for keys)

[olive merlin]

Any Taurens? Considering going orc from Tauren but I like the extra health.

[oblique garnet]

i hate taurens

cant see jack shit with the model

[daring marlin]

I take bfi

[olive merlin]

Yeah and camera angles are wonky. Plus avatar in tol dagor im extra huge

[daring marlin]

I do bom/bfi/uf on my skyscorcher

more

[rapid wren]

sweet thanks dude!

[sick sentinel]

blood elf best

[umbral forge]

@sick sentinel
Just did a weekly 10 for some guildies.
73 minutes, shrine +10.

[sick sentinel]

well I depleted a +10 tos

so I know how you feel

"yeah lets do weekly on alts"
"my weapons are 325 btw and I don't have my azerite have only 3 rings"

[umbral forge]

My friend went on his prot warrior alt and had a 35% uptime on battle shout

[oblique garnet]

wait

wait

on battle shout?

????

As in

ap buff?

[umbral forge]

Ap Buff

but the fury warrior had a 40% uptime.
So together it was 75% uptime

which is well, less than the uptime on my barbed shot

.......I really hate playing with alts.

[narrow abyss]

huh

[modern brook]

@oblique garnet always

@sick sentinel im just getting up

Or sitting down; rather

[sick sentinel]

hi

i'm ingame

im a lil sicktoday

qq

@modern brook YO IT WORKED https://i.imgur.com/d5pe1Ju.png

[outer dew]

is that suppose to be

[outer dew]

that no one is good?

LMAO

[modern brook]

But does he pump

[sick sentinel]

no

he dropped group dawg what the heckj

naps got me goin blankie mode on the gang

@modern brook u want me to hold off on queueing for groups btw

[rigid stream]

For m+, prot vs bdk

[oblique garnet]

prot

100%

[rigid stream]

I have a geared bdk but it feels behind with the poor mobility. Yea I can finish with big heals but I was wondering what prot brings? I know good damage and mobility

But are they a tin can defensively?

[oblique garnet]

yeah no

they are the tankiest

[rigid stream]

My bdk as quoted above, I clench a lot

So I was going try prot, did the removal from gcd set them at the top?

[sick sentinel]

prot = brm > pally > bdk > druid > veng

ip removal off gcd set them as the meta

in terms of output they were already top

the difference is that prot has virtually no utility

(but in my opinion, utility should be the dps you bring :'))

[rigid stream]

Yea I am used to aoe grip, grip, ranged int

But rp walk everywhere

My god how bad it feels

What healer pairs well with prot? With bdk druids made the damage intake feel smooth

[spare hornet]

guys how really good are (Winds Of War - Trait) and do this stack if i have 2 of them?

[chilly brook]

@rigid stream any healer is decent enough for prot

We’re not a super spiky tank

[rigid stream]

Nice

Thanks @chilly brook

[steel mauve]

ip off gcd didnt set prot as the meta, its not as strong of a buff as the masses think, its more a QoL change to make the class feel better, albeit a slight buff to rage spending

[chilly brook]

^^

[steel mauve]

we got slight buffs to our survival with the vanguard buff's, our biggest buffs were the addition of a second major azerite trait on gear

[chilly brook]

@sick sentinel what made prot “meta” was literally just a perception change and m+ shifting to favor our damage with reaping

[steel mauve]

which every one got, just it effected us pretty much the most out of all the tanks since our traits are really really strong

[sick sentinel]

for prot engineering goggles do you take relational normalization gizmo or the shock trait?

uh

yeah

the perception change

because IP came off of gcd

prot was meta before season 2 lol

[steel mauve]

actually i think the perception changed mostly because they thought the vanguard buff's were some major ehp buff when they were kind of slight buff's

[sick sentinel]

prot was meta since 8.1

ip being removed from gcd was huge

for m+

it was by far the strongest thing to happen for prot defensively in regards to m+ this entire expac

^

how I look at it

is that yeah we can respond to stuff more etc

but if we don't waste GCDs to use IP

we can use GCDs to generate more rage and do more damage

2 things pushed prot into meta

1. ip removed from gcd

2. bdk nerfs

[undone sun]

2 is bigger than 1

[sick sentinel]

so that translates to more consistently using SB AND IP at the same time though the dungeon, whereas previously you might had a SB up but not enough rage to use IP

thanks for the analysis von neumann

3. BoM

[undone sun]

🤣

[olive merlin]

My bdk gets absolutely wrecked.. my war feels so much more solid

[rigid stream]

Yea I have to clench when Bonestorm not up

[sick sentinel]

in my opinion, what made warrior good was not one specific thing but a lot of little things combined

[undone sun]

yes

[sick sentinel]

you can't pinpoint one thing

because it was like

1. 10% vanguard buff ( it adds up)
2. IP off the GCD
3. SB 16 sec CD from 18 sec
4. being able to block "shoot" and "throw rock" and all that jazz
5. BDK nerfs
6. BoM

maybe even more

also, many tanks can get aggro and then fucking leg it

but they can't do 100k+ aoe

when bullfango asks me to tricks him

and i dont even have a focus macro for tank

so i click on him

thing is

when initiating a pack

and you blast like 70k insta

the warrior has to charge in, probably has use avatar before the charge

clap-demo shout-clap, maybe revenge to spread deep wounds etc

if you get a crit with between the eyes or some shit

or you are a DH and you insta eyebeam

you can get aggro

and get melee'd and die instantly

I think it was the gamers all rising up that made prot meta

[undone sun]

hmmm

[sick sentinel]

Scrap that

I think that warrior became good

When he became less bad

[inland mesa]

I mean this tier and m season affix play into our strengths and then letting shit stack and giving us an extra ring of azerite to get to 3 bom dream and things is what threw it off

Oh the affix is just aoe down a ton of mobs and they can get 3 bom? What could go wrong

[sick sentinel]

I actually can talk a lot about this but its like 4am (4:20 in 1 min PepeSmoke ) and I will just rant on my own into the void so I would rather not

[fossil spindle]

Cmon, rant more. Im bored at work and I love how prot is now.

[inland mesa]

I just hope they find screw with it to "fix it" and put it in a bad place

[fossil spindle]

Oh, they will. Prot warriors cant have nice things for long

[sick sentinel]

I have transferred to a different server so I have no characters there other than my warrior

So I'm gonna start leveling other tanks

Because I started taking beginning of bfa, and after being a melee dps for 10 years, taking mplus spiced things up

I started having fun again with the game

I was in a social guild and now I'm a way, way better guild (as fury though, I still find raid tanking not that interesting but not that bad either)

kage top500 now

Not as fun though, my prev guild had some really fun guys in and I actually enjoyed playing with them a lot

prog though

Ye hopefully stormwall is dying on Monday

Anyway, tl:dr, we might be clapping now

But we're about to get clapped

shoe soup handslam 😫

So I'm leveling a dh because its only 22 levels

And then I'm gonna level more tanks

Probably a devastating zandalari druid

And a dk

Monks are stupid, them and pandas should never have been in the game

And I will never make a paladin for any reason whatsoever

I'd play dh for havoc

fury but better

[wheat flame]

How do you guys deal with the reaping dot? as prot warriors? i just died from a 130k dot.

[sick sentinel]

don't get hit

Shield wall

Ip

[oblique garnet]

have your healer dispel you

[sick sentinel]

Good healers

Shockwave

[oblique garnet]

^

[sick sentinel]

Crit on your gear

Make sure you are facing the reaping mobs

If you are getting hit in the face and not the back you are going to get (3%+your parry chance) less stacks

[hollow bolt]

You can also spellreflect the dot

when spell reflect is up the dot cant get u

[sick sentinel]

You can spell reflect one application

[hollow bolt]

I thought it was multiple, my b

[undone sun]

considering how bfa spell reflect works

[shut summit]

can game it with shockwaving all / spell reflecting all applications at once

[undone sun]

🧀

[sick sentinel]

Actually sounds sick as fuck

[inland mesa]

Arent the mobs that shadow smash immune to stun?

[sick sentinel]

Yes but what does it matter

They don't apply stacks

[inland mesa]

Oh thought they did

Just the noncasters then?

[sick sentinel]

Only smallies do

Ye

[inland mesa]

Thought you were going to bed :-P

[sick sentinel]

I am in bed

On my phone

Just not sleeping

[daring marlin]

lol unyun man