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to use my 70k IP
I have to take 70k damage on my health as well
I don't wanna take 70k damage
but I also don't like overcapping IP so I will not overcap rage
and like
I have 25%+ parry
so revenge is always free
I had engi helmet and 2x BFI /2x IF for a bit - blocking damage for days
I took off merticulous scheeming for BS
regrets all over the place
I did it on wednesday, I am waited 2 days to let the reforge cost drop so I will reforge back again
if IP was at like 75% of damage instead of 50%
then I would go full bs
I just did it because I have like 3% vers
so I needed something against magic
Yeah - I find I take enough damage to use the IP most of the time anyway and the leech feels nice, and if I'm not taking enough to use IP I dont really care which defensive I have sorta thing
Not going to stack BS but something against magic anyway
I have like 3% leech and it is like 7-9% of my healing
and I use a 400 diamond+rezans
I still cant get that diamond to drop for me
but the week where the "do 4 mythic dungeons" was a thing
my lootspec was prot for a shield/weap
😂
gotta go fury/arms for Jaina to get taht sweet Anchor
exactly
What's the dream for dps trinks in m+, anchor + vial?
Anchor + Rezan if you ask me :)
the thing is nutty
360 dps per target at max stacks
someone in here had it up to like 18% of their overall dmg in a dungeon if I'm not mistaken, can't remember who though
yeah idk what ilvl they were
Guys i gotta ask, is it just me or are prot wetnoodles if they charge into a pack on fortified with 0 rage?
Eh
Gore>rezan
Any tank that goes in without any mitigation on fortified will die
you can charge into your melee to gain rage then charge into the pack to get another 15 rage
and you clap so you get >30 rage insta for shield block
oh dang, i didnt know that,thx
or you avatar charge
so you charge in with an ignore pain and 35 rage ( 50 if you did what I just said)
shield block uptime is more important than ignore pain right?
yes
If its blockable damage
tracking CDS
you should track your IP
you should track how long you have in Last stand
how long you have in SW
and not have to loot top right
how long you have left in avatar
lipgloss is weep
I use weep's weakaura bundle
but it has not been updated for like months
because she quit her warrior 🤣
Cool- I use Marok's for sb/LD and IP
why is weep lipgloss
Idk If the spell reflect one doesn't work or if I just didn't load it
ok looks like shes left again lol
Mornin everyone
good morning sir
endless hunger vs iron fortress?
@sick sentinel she hasn't left
weep was taken on twitch
and she wants to be the new twitch sensation
she even used her mic for the first time yesterday
she didn't use her mic no
** y i k e r s **
it took for her a while to use it even when we 2 were in voice chat
she cool now tho
i see, i see
how offten does the world quests reset ? every 6 hours ?
8
hello people
hello
thanks
@lusty grotto
youre dead to me weep 😢
that's harsh
how higly do you guys value leach/aviod on gear? worth dropping any ilvl for the exact same piece without it?
not worth it to drop ilvl
as high as 0
it's a nice added bonus
avoidance is pretty much useless
I would wear the leech piece when comparing 2 items of the same ilvl but that's me meming
the correct thing is to wear the piece with the highest haste on it
Tertiaries are nice to have on gear, but you dont gear for them
yeah rng
Does the cloak from king Rastakahn have decreased stats because of the set effect?
Traditionally set bonuses do not affect Stat allocation
However I haven't really looked into that particular example
I would bet on no
does the trash before last boss on ToS have truesight?
No,you can shroud past them.
Is Swirling Sands a good alternative to Deafening Crash, if I have a DC on another piece already but theyre both on the 2nd ring? Or should I rather go with 2x DC?
I say go 2 DC if only for consistency of advice
Sands is like ok, crit is nice. Stats are great. Proc based crit is wholey whatever, consistent damage from 2nd DC is pretty whatever too
Like over the course of a fight 2nd DC will be better offensicely
The crit will be infinitely better defensively if u parry once during its uptkme
But like that's some super detailed min maxing that isnt particularly useful to consider, imo
Alright.. tought so. Was breaking my head over it..
Its a 415 to upgread from my 400 which make me replace 1x Brace for Impact.
But I feel like the 15 ilvls are worth losing BfI for DC.
I was in same situation and just flipped a coin
I would go sands tbh
Someone link 8.1.5 class changes? Someone mentioned demo lock nerfed but I can't find anything
yup
with 10% leech, sure
hmm cause im rocking 13% leech right now
and im curious if i run 3 bloodsport traits
and push it 15%
sounds prety OP tbh
dunno how its gonna be in practise
cause im dropping 5 ilvls/2 sockets for that
oh god, please dont do that
well im meeming tbh;p
but it would be funny for once
prot warrs to beat healers in healing
do a M+ and post your healing logs lol
y ill do it
should also get your answer on leech itself (i'm not 100% if it DR's in anyway, tbh)
Topping healing meters was last x-pack.
definitely test, and let us know
are there any leech socket/enchants?
siphoning
Siphoning on wep
+im also running bonded souls
on massive reaping packs, your dps gets high enough with damage intake not scaling as high
hmmm
Does it outweigh what you lose is the bigger question
if i dont get one shot
or my hp flops too much
could be viable
or just a meme xD
well in reaping, a lot of the damage comes from a) getting hit by shadow smash (avoidable) b) gravebolts (interruptable) and c) Reap Soul (dispellable). Avoiding those, your damage intake isn't huge so there's probably a point where you get good benefit from leech at certain levels/sizes of pack
It's memes
24k overall in freehold 11 last night was meme enough lol, who needs healing parses
But good as long as you pull a pack along with reaping
24k dps or hps?!?
dps
okk lol nice
well I had a weird experience last night, was hoping someone else had similar experiences
18k hps total in TD11
Did you do cannon?
no
well with diamond lace/rezan u get passively 10k hps
yeh bunch of us discussed it this morning, it was just an absolute shit healer and I was just doing all I could to not die
Yellow mobs
Is there any weak aura that would show me how much DR I get from block against current target with K values and everything ?
Victory rush
yeh a lot of VR + SW
That's it
A victory rush during last stand
Prism + rezan = 10k hps seems like an embellishment. Isn't it like a 10-12k shield each time?
I use Prism + Rezan, dunno if I hit passive 10k hps tho
@weary thorn
I mean, thinking about it logically, it's definitely nowhere close to 10k HPS
just for the aesthetic
10-12k shield even every 5 seconds would be ~2k HPS, not 10
a 400 prism
How does it add up to 2k? 2k is 2k is 2k
with bloodpsport and ls
hey guys is ablative shielding trait any good?
@crisp pecan depends
Oh, okay; you just said rezan+prism before
if you are good at the game it never procs
if you are still learning the spec it procs all the time
flames
sees crit
😄
😁 n
but yeah, it's more a matter of "how often do you find yourself dipping below 40%"
OKie, next quesdtion, is strenght in numbers worth stackingg?
🤔 I bet SiN follows the RP rules...
How does SiN work? Isn't it just max health? Not HP?
max health but also heals you for the same amount I believe
it's a flat shield that is multiplied by the number of mobs
Oh okay
up to 5
wait
isn't that it
it increases max health
or am i totally derping
blade
Oh I thought SiN was a last stand effect but without the heal
you are thinking of bulwark
Since it doesn't say that it heals the HP
bulwark of the masses
strength in numbers or earthlink?
^^
rly? lel
blood siphon or elemenatl whirl then
sorry for these, just reforging my items 😄
aim is only M+
knot/rezan's /vial in M+? the highest keys i run currently is between 10-12 so am trying to focus on damage mostly. knot/vial are 400 and rezan is 385 w/socket
Kaege my guild seems to be disbanding 
dont...just on use. and diamond
400
diamond+knot
and farm either a rezan's or if you are cheeky and want big damages farm WCM for the gore block
double on use is not bad, it is only bad if knot is one of them
the idea of double on use is to have one every avatar
but knot is up every avatar anyway
@sick sentinel with impassive and intimidating presence i really should select impassive for m+? 😄
yes
oki
presence is not that good, it is just better than some shitty ones
like self reliance
I have a question for mythic grong, if it's triple rending bite and you're taking throw with 1 stack of rending granted you'll spell reflect, do you need an external for this or a personal every time or will a good IP always be enough to cover it
you are not going to get triple bite multiple times in a row, a fat IP and a SW will probably work
a bark will not hurt tho
So basically shield wall would be used in those moments, since outside of the combo it's not that bad
yeah
Okay, thank you. Still trying to learn warrior and I noticed it's a lot more unforgiving than what I'm used to playing <_<
warrior is a punishing but rewarding if you play correctly
yup definitely agree
you can really feel when you're getting better at it
and same goes for when u fuck up
My healer friend week 1 "dude you are so hard to keep up", by week 3 "dude you take like no damage". It feels really rewarding to get better at. A lot more engaging (to me) than simply keeping ironskin brew up
I came from the same boat
Was that this patch
I dk I feel like warrior got easier but I can’t tell if I just got used to it and better
Hohoho
They removed IP from gcd which helped the way warrior feels a lot imo but we didn't really get that much stronger
Weep, you turned your badge in
IP being something you actually cast now definitely made warrior stronger
No more warrior talk
5 rings helped us more than others too
Wait weep is still here?
what's teamchip
teamchip is ded
I wasn't here for teamchip
What new circlejerk is this
none of you understand
Nimchip was the only one there for me when I was banned from Limit
Lol
@narrow abyss honestly warrior isn’t the hardest to play
It’s just punishing if you make mistakes
DK / Monk have more complex rotations/resources/mitigation but the punishment for messing them up isn’t as bad
Yeah I came from DK and it kind of felt like even if I did screw up I didn't die like I do on warrior lol.
This is pre nerf DK though so, dunno about if that statement is the same in BoD
i dont think dk is complicated at all.. it's way easier than prot warrior. I spent most my time on my bdk just sitting around waiting to cast a death strike.
Keep ossuary up, death strike after taking a big hit. other than that, there's nothign to bdk.
@red wedge What are the rules for not wasting BS charges
Dont cast over 6 stacks, unless under 5 seconds.
lol
While keeping 3+ runes on CD, while not overcapping RP
and while having to correctly time your DSs
not that it's -hard-, but it's certainly more -complex-
6 stacks if you have bones of the damned* 7 if you don't iirc
dont think i ever bothered with bones.
@red wedge Warrior is "press your highest priority ability, keep up SB"
i think i might have a bones on my bdk because of ilvl azerite and shitty trait choices otehrwise
Every single time, you trigger the bdk
@lusty grotto That's what I'm here for
Mmhmm
^
But I've also never mained warrior and I've had DK as a main on and off since cata
Warrior is pretty easy too tbh
@red wedge I'd argue it's less -easy-, but far less punishing, playing my DK perfectly involves more plate spinning, I'm not punished as much for getting it wrong though
Yea. I can get behind that.
I've been going back and forth from bdk and warrior since draenor.
Warrior has always been my favorite class overall since vanilla.
I've flipped between classes a ton, generally land on one that feels right for an expansion
You're on dk now sadbox?
i dunno, I prefer to suffer when I tank
So reverse of me lol
I'm the anti-FOTM
Warrior for life
(but seriously, pug a key as a BrM with a bad healer....it's quite literally suffering)
@stoic pilot My reasons for playing BDK mostly revolve around my preference around the playstyle, I prefer the slower pace, less GCD capped, "big" feeling buttons
🤢
The only reason my guild would make a tank swap is if the player was terrible at that class / spec after they wanted to swap to it
Yeah I feel ya, BDK is a ton of fun. I've just been playing it for the entirety of legion / bfa and I was curious of other tanks
Had to make a DH swap to Druid in legion
I really hated BRM (for some reason) but prot is so much fun lol
My guild has a lot of really messed up ideas.
Prot since vanilla boysss
And forcing players to play certain classes because they think it's better was one of them.
Fuck rerolling
@exotic spoke My guild was pretty explicit that they didn't expect / need me to swap even though warrior was "bad"
Yea.
Oh I didn’t mean you sadbox
My guild was like hey u need a brm geared up mid uldir 😭
More responding to racial
meta slaves
Sadbox don't backpedal man, you bdk'd hard during uldir
If you’re not going for world first it doesn’t matter
^
See
@lusty grotto shhhhh
My guild thinks they're WF material
Also warrior was fine for uldir
My guild ran a prot warrior and vengeance dh in uldir
We were done with progression when I swapped
What have you all killed so far racial?
Lol
We're nowhere near WF material. They just think they are. lol.
Shots fired

We were 7/9 uldir, I think. I quit at 4/9 because they were driving me insane.
We just downed opulence last night.
Ahhh
We’re progressing on opulence. About 50 pulls into it. Started getting to opulence more cleanly - only 2 / 3 deaths
Yea. Our biggest issue was the gauntlet, and people screwing each other on the swaps.
But once we started getting to p2, it wasnt that bad.
I think if we get there a few more times that cleanly (or cleaner) we have it
They made me swap to warrior when we were 2/9 Uldir because "grip will be usefull on zekvoz adds"
er
swap from warrior
Uh what
I mean.. We wiped on opulence for 3 weeks-ish
Dodging things hard
Grip on zekvoz adds the fuck
Lul
In uldir i got the ”Ew warrior tank” treatment before my first raid and then got the oh youre actually good at the game
As everyone here should have gotten
When we were wiping as 2/9M Uldir, they were forcing people in the guild to roll rogues for the zul cheese.
LOL
Wow
like.. bitches what
yea
Jesus christ
We did the zul with the rogue cheese
I would have left that guild asap
Never have i hated tanking raid boss so much
Fuck that shit
Lol. So this may be a really dumb question. How do I bind markers and target markers.
Never really cared about it as a dps.
Go to keybindings
worst part about 8.1. People stopped thinking warriors suck so I get less heart-warming compliments from pugs.
I just use a weakaura to mouseover targets that marks automatically
The only reason I didnt leave the guild permanently is because I have RL friends in there still.
2,3,4,5 blah blah
I just have f5 through f10 perma binded to marks
/wm i thought?
Did I miss a discussion about playing inferior tanks over prot warrior?
for world marker
There’s a fantastic WA for auto marking anything that casts and high priority marks
For m+
@sand egret nah people still thought warrior was shit in 8.1
at the start mebbe
That’s because people are retarded
Yeah but all the BDK streamers are now prot warriors
Mind pm that WA to me puzzle?
Trust me
All my world marks, and target marks are bound to my num pad 0 for clear, then 1-8 for targets, ctrl+1-8 for world marks
So
I still get compliments @sand egret
Not saying I dont
Ty guys btw.
Fork: Uses skull, x, square instead of star, circle, diamond, etc... Adjusted NPC list to mark higher health mobs and i
@narrow abyss yes because a 5% EHP buff suddenly made warrior viable lmao
ugh Chef tmog
Iron Chef Nimchip
Ranged blocks, more gcd's for claps
Theres quite many actually
Nah
@ebon hound while ranged Block is nice it didn’t make us go from not viable to viable, we’re basically in the same spot we were it’s just that people actually caught onto the fact that if you’re not braindead we’re top tier tanks
Why are you downplaying ranged block
I’m not
what do you mean
@chilly brook also, damage
armor buff is why prot good now
so much damage
There was literally many adds in all the dungeons that basically tore us a new one on fortified without ranged block
We’ve always had damage tho lol
the damage is bonus
i mean ignore pain off gcd 10% 5% health double traits blocking ranged attacks vers affects ignore pain
dont tell me warrs didnt get buffed
The armor buff was the least impacting buff
these are insane buffs
the real reason why people play warrior is because they are tankier
I didn’t say we didn’t get buffed?
Why do people always say IP off gcd
@chilly brook People just figured out how to use it
But we didn’t get as buffed as you think we did survival wise
Christ
@lusty grotto people are silly af
In fact I’d say we took a survival hit @sturdy trench
It's like you didn't adapt to on gcd so you feel like it's a buff to go back to it
🤷
I’d gladly sacrifice my EHP buff for the old DC
I said IP of GCD purely because it felt smoother / more clean
yes so instead of casting revenge every other gcd i casted ginore pain
thats a dps decrease
and also rage gerneration decrease
IP off gcd isn’t really a survival buff
@sturdy trench You're greatly overestimating how much rage you wasted when playing well
^^^
we got slightly buffed, ip off gcd was more QoL to playstyle than the huge buff people think it was, the rest was just small buff's we recieved, the biggest thing that helped us was a second major azerite trait and ilvl gains
It was 1-2% more rage over the course of a dungeon
Agreed iron
^^^^^^
Even now I rarely if ever use rage on revenge
What iron said
The best change wasn’t even directly on the warrior - it was reaping / more traits imo
And m+ playing to our strength this season
- on reaping
Pretty much riki
Like Riki said
More traits, BoM, reaping making big AoE pulls easier, plus the reaping itself
but dunno hoiw many of u played high keys before the buff
Big pulls make us shine
reaping actually feels bad on warrior
Prot is literally the same boat it was in for 8.0 with possibly a little less overall survivability
warriors has always scaled well, so it was only a matter of time until ilvl gains just made us huge, especially on shields, and the second major trait really buffed us more than most
u could get one shot once u charge into a lot of mobs
@sturdy trench a lot of us did....
during fortified weeks
Yea make sure you have block 4head
As you can now... If you don't know how to play or pull
How is reaping bad on warrior?
^^^
u mean last stand 5head
Reaping is only bad on warrior if your healer doesnt dispel you
And save last stand for gaps
try play +20 pre buff ^^
Shout for the party, thunderclap, avatar, demo, booty clapping time
I did
Pretty sure people did....
Sense did aswell
Several people in this discord.....
have cd on dispel and you have 0 things that can help you on reaping
compare to other class
Shockwave
Wtf lol
Just like several of us did just fine in Mythic Uldir prog
@empty inlet mass grip?
150-250k dps
people forget easilyu
🤔🤔
No we didn’t forget lmao
Then the healer is likely dispelling too early
We just knew how to play
But yeah sure reaping is bad for warrior
@empty inlet sigil of chains? ursol's vortex?
Don't feed the troll
its bad compare to other class
Also regarding prot buffs
Not really
I think this is the biggest thing. Azerite gear is WAY more available
First boss in mythic dropping a shield
I re rolled from prot last tier because DC didn’t drop from raids
ok so go and check S1 BFA and see how many warrs did +20
DC wasn’t hard to get last tier
I think you’re high
Yup definitely high
I mean unless you wanted world quest level pieces (only scaled to normal for awhile) you just had to cross your fingers in your cache
youre forgetting they nerf the shit out of dk
370 DC was just fine
Right but that wasn’t available til what halfway through the patch?
And I made due with a 340 DC before that
Stop feeding the troll
Of course you could “make do”
Nobody in 20's is face-tanking >5 mobs because of bonestorm
And then a 360 from pvp chest
How much did they nerf bdk armor?
When did I say you couldn’t
they mathed it out and the nerf on dk's alsot wasnt as big as people think
Guy is an idiot
I said that’s a buff
@sturdy trench
Biggest thing the changes did was made average warrior play more viable.
I’m just saying the ilvl difference of a 340 to 370 DC was minimal
You just wanted the trait
Now you can get a dope chest piece and shield from pigging mythic.
Only if it drops sad face
Right but now being able to get a mythic piece right off the bat is in effect a buff
@exotic spoke it was ~1% EHP from armor, 1-2% armor DR loss
I guess...
That’s so minor lol
But I don’t really think so
But that’s the same for a lot of classes
When you have great drops off the first couple bosses and it is accessible and helps all classes that’s not a buff
wait, math wrong, 4% EHP loss from armor
I would sacrifice ilvl in a heartbeat for this
anyways, bigger was WotN which was more or less a EHP nerf, around 5%
I mean
Especially since titan residuals is a thing
Obviously
not -tiny- but far from nerfed in to the ground
Eh you can still keep 50%+ uptime on demoshout
I don’t know why you’re purposely missing the point
Prot warrior has some of the best traits for tanks right now
Because i disagree with the point you’re trying to make?
I think it’s just more nuanced than you’re making it
Warrior got one new trait
@exotic spoke anyways, lala is drunk, the "15%" nerf was for base armor, when a -big- chunk of DK armor comes from bone shield which isn't effected by the base armor nerf
Griff not Riki
Which is bis for m+
so it ended up at way less than 15%
The other traits have stayed the same
@neon tangle that makes sense
Ok
And all our traits are good
So it wasn’t a huge deal to not get ideal traits
And they’re easier to get
@exotic spoke also, while not -great-, armor nerfs are minorly less bad for DKs since some % of the extra damage you take will get healed by DS
I think you’re overvaluing the traits tbh
Imagine
I think Monk have fantastic traits
It was literally you need 1 DC and the rest was just ilvl
Bastion of might is nerfed by 50% of what it was in ptr
bdks had the worst traits out of any tank.
Yeah monk traits are good too
That makes sense sadbox. When we received our hp and armor buff people in my guild were like “oh that’s a huge change “
Hey, now that weep is back, I wonder where Mactier is
Thank god they added bloody runeblade. At least there's one trait that you look forward to getting.
I miss his pre 8.1 dps screenshot
no, it is also dogshit
What prenerf?
bloody runeblade is not really worth anything
It's better than the nothing we had before.
The puny 110k?
you take it if everything else is even more dogshit
Nim you wanna see something fun
I like fun things
marrowblood Pepega
Sure
the most asked question in archerus: marrowblood or deepcuts??
flip a coin, they both suck
lol
^^
haha
darkee said marrowblood is good 🤔
‘Member when everyone at the beginning of Uldir was like “prot needs self healing”
what dungeon were you doing
maybe I should've kept my DK since gambling any 415 piece wouldn't have mattered 😅
Marrowblood can literally only be good when compared to shit like deepcuts
which is gross
I run a 10 on my bdk each week. That's the extent of play it's seen over the past month.
Thats with defensive traits and trinkets too🤔
Since I got to go back to warrior. 😄
I ran a ton til I swapped to warr
ya used to play dk i like the control in dungeon but warrior is just way better
I just have more fun on the warrior..
same
I mean warriors bring control to m+
Leaps. Intercepts.
Mobs are very easy to control when dead
and that's actualy the correct word for the only reason I play my Warrior now, it is actually fun
Just more fun to do stuff with
to play
Personally - warrior or I won’t play WoW
Bring the other tanks up
Druids especially
Riki
I remember this discussion
Don’t make me link it again
Except it was bring other tanks to dks level
🐻
i think all tanks are playable atm cept for vengence
where's Tofu at
Yw
Vengeance is playable in raids
There is a big difference between playable and either fun / good
@oblique garnet I kinda have a problem with modern blood DK though from a design standpoint
when i mean playable i meant 20+ keys
i think all class can do 20+ keys easily if played well cept dh
We 3 tank a lot of stuff in bod for no particular reason.. Our 3rd tank is a dh.
We do on first boss and probably will on coven mythic
When you wanna tank but your class is gimped
Easily and 20 in same sentence
🙃
We do for coven, and rasta
So I join a casual guild the other day
we 3-tank champs because it means you don't have to kite / run the boss around
They needed a tank for a m+
at least on heroic. we had 3 pulls on coven last night, and 3 tanked it there too.
Is it time for the quote of the day guys?
Are we viable yet
Why are you 3 tanking so much
One of the guys happens to be talkin about his DPS and I go “what do I get if I beat your DPS” and he goes “there’s no way a tank is gonna beat me in DPS”
We 2 tank champs, but our monk always just dies because he never resets his shit.. then I have to tank everything until we kill it.
I sit on paku, yes.
And then the swaps are at 2 stacks of lacerating, and just to drop the paku buff
Next thing I know all I hear is “wait what the fuck how are you doing 40k?!?! Did I miss something?”
Quote of the day done
Ha!
Babby
U right
❤
Unacceptable griff
Lemme go kms
Yes
It's basically automatic
@deep forge Yes. I meant mythic champs.
I always tell my warlock to ss me because im too lazy ro reset
Our brewmaster is kinda dumb
Lol
That's why we 3 tank some stuff.
do people zerg champion now or do they swap to ads
@oblique garnet Implying that you need to reset to not die
Although I would like to say I did hit 130k DPS before 8.1 during the middle of Uldir
We zerg champ
I mean if im doing pugs yes i have to reset
a lot better to just sit the prot warrior on champ, just spell reflect after the big cast is done and it pretty much just resets
If its with guild the boss dies so fast theres no point
We got a new prot warrior tank so now I'm relegated to add duty on champs
Pulled 4 packs of the mobs before Zul and pumped big boi numbers
I mean yeah obv
I take the first crusader to the side. We murder the two priest with the boss. Then I tank the next set of adds to the side while the boss is nuked.
because of my "ranged interupts" and "grips"
I mean stacks just fall off due to prayer
Usually around 10% is when the brewmaster dies, and I have to tank everything for a minute.
That's a special type of stupid
maybe magic damage
Huh?
I wish people would stop rerolling to a “better class”
and i dont know how
@chilly brook TO be fair, rerolling to BrM is not a bad idea if you want to just smash your keyboard
Like no prot warrior doing a +20 pre buff
sounds like just a shitty player trying to blame the class and play a "better" class, but a shit player on one class is a shit player on another one
^
@steel mauve You're right.
He is just a bad player.. but he's improved a ton since we recruited him.
@steel mauve I had a BDK in my guild who wanted to swap to prot pally because they thought it would be easier
@neon tangle if you don’t learn to play it doesn’t matter what class you play lol
i wish my class can reflect 10% of boss's hp in temple 
@chilly brook disagree! Some classes are more friendly to not giving a fuck
Going from a reaction tank to a proactive tank and thinking it’ll be easier :pepega
if you want easier from a bdk go monk, pally isnt completely easier imo
I just like tanking in general.
Amen
He went from Pally to BrM.
Oh it's 100% not easier, he just got wrecked too hard on m jaina and wanted to blame not-himself
I went from Warrior to Bdk to Warrior
I mean h jaina
I like tanking in general I just can’t be bothered to gear another tank besides prot
Implying my guild could get to m jaina lol
That's my problem @chilly brook . Me so lazy
I just don’t enjoy getting clapped half the time
so far ive raided on my warrior as my main, but also my pally and warrior just feels so much better to me
Granted I haven’t touched bear since 8.1
Yea. The only reason my warrior got geared up so quick is because my main keys group had 2 other plate wearers before they quit.
And DH would be an easy motivation to get gear but uhhhhh they’re wet tissue paper and it doesn’t matter how fun the class is if it’s just not fun to play because you get clapped
I mean
I'm sure people just talk ptoa of smack
As bear I feel fine
I'm sure DH isnt as paper as people say
Its so easy to gear up characters which is why i have everything except pala at 395+ atm
@outer dew I think I'm going to level a pally tank
Nihilo is proof that bear was ok enough in 8.0
A friend leveling up a shaman
because zandalari
So I might gear up a DK/Monk/Pala
@oblique garnet how do you do it?
the pally mounts for them are great
Because I’m struggling getting this pally geared
You should Def do VDH @outer dew
No one ever invites my pally ☹️
Cuz you took a break
Nimchipadin could use runs
Also i have group of friends who i do keys with
And we all have bunch of alts so we just rotate
any ideas for how to handle those minions of zul in KR without a priest?
Just do what I do
Clap them @frozen ember
@frozen ember berserker rage and clap
I’m actually convinced that people just aren’t willing to take anyone who’s gearing up even if they’re perfectly capable of doing the content
root them
thanks
Had a guy in this guild I joined set a 390+ requirement on a +9
you overreacting
I honestly don't know of a way that isn't belf since horde is nothing but belfs
Griff add me up I'll do keys with chipadin
I think priests get a mass dispel or something
You gotta do m+ to get an io thats part of the problem lmao
Might just be a myth
He said without a priest
lower key is harder than higher key
Also zul only summons 1
because of the players you play with
I figured they meant the two packs at the start.
Finding people to push lower keys is a pain
And I was just making a bad joke in response to sadbox. 😛
Half the time it’s toxic trash
lol its cool 😄
M+ is great if you know good people
^
It sucks if you don’t
Yea
i mean
from what I understand of the NA m+ scene
once you hit the higher keys
everyone just really stays in own clique
as they should
For the most part
That should be around 15ish iirc
Does anyone know what happens when the goblin mission table dude gets upgraded to legendary?
depending on weeks though you can pug all the way up to 19 on a good week like last week
since he already have 2 slots
But again if you want to actually get an IO score I’d say you pretty much need to find a good group
wat r the best azerite traits for prot
That's definitely true in the small sample set of my guild. We have 2 main groups of people that run keys at 15+.. Then everyone else that begs to get into keys at 10+ all week that end up getting run out of sheer pity.
I wish I had better luck
Griff ignoring chipadin
@opal snow #268491842637660160
Feelsbadman
Oh I'm at work lol
I’m about to take off on my flight to home
ty @chilly brook
I wonder if we’d get less, more or the same amount of questions like “what traits should I use” if there was like a 10 minute wait before being able to send messages and the first place people entered this server on was #268491842637660160
It is
when it comes to activity, pins, organiszation, and etc.
I’m not throwing shade just a genuine thought that popped in my head
druid/mage/dh discords look miserable af
I mean DH is the edgy server what do you expect 😜
This place has the friendliest community out of all the class discords I've been to.
Don’t hear that too often
Other class discords, asking a simple question gets your head bitten off.
Here, that only happens 1/5 times.
Some people take differing opinions or facts contrary to their experience around here harshly
Man.. My coworker showed me his hacked switch. Dude has Half-Life on there, and it's actually plays well. lol
Think he's got like 400 cracked games or something
I’m not surprised
I wouldn’t hack mine though it screws you with Nintendo’s online service
Yea
And I actually like playing Smash

