protection

[modern brook]

Its why you cant Demo shout the impact damage

on Grong

a fight i know too well

[neon tangle]

AFAIK every tank can soak it

[naive panther]

Think vengeance would need a bark? I’m well over 400k hp

[fresh dragon]

@modern brook that guide didnt even has that ability

its called IRE OF THE DEEP

is not present in that spreedsheet

[modern brook]

sigh one sec

[neon tangle]

@naive panther like I said all tanks can soak it

You would think that joke would get old

But it doesn’t

[modern brook]

none of the top 25 parses on M Storm wall use SR on IRE OF THE DEEP

take that as you will

Super easy to find out on your own if you're willing to burn a pull

[neon tangle]

I mean are they soaking

[modern brook]

yes

generally 2-4 times each

[chilly brook]

@fresh dragon if it’s not in the spell reflect sheet then I’d assume it’s not reflectable

[modern brook]

unsure if they're soloing it

MY assumption is it wont work

since its not targeted

[fresh dragon]

@chilly brook if its not why are present like 10+ spells also not reflectable? just says some1 ha forgotten to add it in the sheet

@modern brook yes they are soloing the pools

[modern brook]

🤷

[exotic spoke]

The ones on the spreadsheet are typically the major ones that actually matter - and you’d try to spell reflect anyway.

Ire of the deep drops shit on the floor and I’m pretty sure we’ve never been able to reflect something like that

[fresh dragon]

ire of the deep is a major one ability of that boss

if noone soak 1 is a wipe

[modern brook]

I'll sum this up

[fresh dragon]

and if u can solo soak it all dps can focus dps

[modern brook]

We're not sure; logs of the best people arent using it; most similar abilities are not

[exotic spoke]

I understand. But we’ve never been able to reflect something like that before to my knowledge

[modern brook]

IF you want to test it on your own go wild its not hard

[fresh dragon]

as tank is a very important mechanic

[modern brook]

Otherwise asusme its not

[fresh dragon]

i was aksing coz my RL asked me to switch back to my war prot saying it can be SR

[opal peak]

@modern brook 12:52pm est (literally right after saying "ill get a shield eventually")

[exotic spoke]

Grats cuddles

[modern brook]

Grats

[wary gyro]

I wish more RL would actually bother to learn how a class works before they start telling their raiders what to do

[sand egret]

ezshield

[distant crystal]

is crit/mast the best dps stats for prot?

[modern brook]

haste crit

[chilly brook]

@fresh dragon you can’t SR ground target AoEs unless you’re just trying to reduce the damage done

[exotic spoke]

^^

[fresh dragon]

ok

[opal peak]

i still have like no haste

but replaced 385

[chilly brook]

It has to be a single target ability

[modern brook]

I ran a 355 for most of Uldir

[sand egret]

@distant crystal no, but the shield is a high ilvl which is king in shield terms

[modern brook]

upgraded to a 375 the week before 8.1

[opal peak]

i have 12% haste 😦

[modern brook]

got a 420 on first M CoL kill

[chilly brook]

And even then it’s questionable on if it’s reflectable or not

[modern brook]

Is that with or w/o ITF stacks cuddles

[distant crystal]

@sand egret was just wondering cause i got a 415 crit/mast ring on my box :p

[sand egret]

@opal peak luckily ITF puts haste into comfortable levels whether you stack it or not 😃

that's a pretty solid ring id say

[modern brook]

I think im at like 42% haste with 5itf

[distant crystal]

and was thinking since mast gives AP and crit's always good :p

[opal peak]

it's a shield @sand egret monkaS

[modern brook]

Haste gives: more GCD's = More SS procs = More Rage Gen = More Rage spent = More Avatar casts

[exotic spoke]

More booty claps

[modern brook]

also more aa's

[opal peak]

im only at 29% with 5 stack

[chilly brook]

@fresh dragon was your RL expecting you to be able to use SR and negate the damage or just use it and reduce the damage dealt to you?

[opal peak]

there was a small time i was at like 35% and it felt so much better

[fresh dragon]

SR and Negate

[wary gyro]

Basically haste gives more everything

[modern brook]

^

[distant crystal]

RL probably saw a warrior reflecting cyclone strike and thought it was magic

[fresh dragon]

but i said that it cannot be SR and negate so i can solo tank it with my monk too

[chilly brook]

And this is why RLs need to not tell tanks what they should or shouldn’t be doing

[modern brook]

We dont have a priority past more but we like haste more than the other stats if given the choice because its applicable in every situation

Thats a prot discord secret waat

stfu about it

😠

[distant crystal]

lol

every time I do ToS people tell me i need to SR that :p

[exotic spoke]

Yeah, tried it last night. Not sure if I did it correctly

[modern brook]

Did u die?

[distant crystal]

i'm like yeah yeah i will

[wary gyro]

My RL tried tanking for a week he hasn't told me how to tank since

[distant crystal]

no i just get out of the way if it's targetting me

:p

[exotic spoke]

No lol but it was an 10 for a carry

[modern brook]

Nice reflect then dude

[exotic spoke]

It still goes past you visually then?

[modern brook]

If you logged it u can find it really easy

otherwise its harder to tell

[distant crystal]

so, i saw in a twitch clip where it visually reflected, but for me it never has

[chilly brook]

The things RLs expect of their players make me laugh

[distant crystal]

idk if i gotta square up better and get closer to the boss for that or what, but it def trucks the boss and i take no dmg when i do it right

[modern brook]

Its ~2mil damage w/o even a global

[exotic spoke]

Fuck, no logs. My potato can’t handle logs and other things all the time.

At a 10? Holy fuck

[distant crystal]

must be a p high key for 2mill :p

i think it was a little over a mill for me

[modern brook]

I think the log im thinking of was a 17?

might have been an 18

[exotic spoke]

Then I must of reflected

[distant crystal]

if it's not targetted on you, jump in the way and hit it

you'll hear the little noise

[exotic spoke]

Yeah - that’s what I did

[modern brook]

I mean just stack in a line

you handle adderis exactly like when he was broken

[exotic spoke]

Don’t remember the noise. I didn’t die and was at like half health. But that could be because the Druid was cat weaving at the time

[modern brook]

only if u have SR and werent the target, you dont move

[sick sentinel]

is bringing 2 DHs and a rogue a meme?

[modern brook]

its rude to your healer

[chilly brook]

I mean you’ll destroy the key timer

[sick sentinel]

it's a tos 18

[distant crystal]

seems like you'd want a mistweaver then

[chilly brook]

Oof

I don’t think you want that much melee in ToS

[distant crystal]

all that phys with no debuff

[modern brook]

Is it Outlaw rogue?

[sick sentinel]

yes

[modern brook]

yeah you're def in meme territory

[chilly brook]

I thought outlaw had nasty trash DPS?

[modern brook]

So do the 2 DH's and the tank

[sick sentinel]

double darkness though

[modern brook]

ToS doesnt have enough large pulls for that

though it is fort teeming

[exotic spoke]

I was upset with my dps in UR in a pug interrupting the casts on the first boss

[distant crystal]

we have a rogue that's refused to play anything but outlaw since launch

except on Zul cheese he played sub

now is his time to shine

[exotic spoke]

Even when I called out “I have next two casts”

[chilly brook]

What’s outlaws single target like rn?

[modern brook]

ok

[sick sentinel]

it's bursting dude

imagine being US btw

[chilly brook]

Maybe I should level my rogue

[modern brook]

If you're still on bursting skittish

I dont think you're making that timer

[exotic spoke]

Lol

[modern brook]

but i wish you the best

[exotic spoke]

Quaking teeming inc

I am looking forward to this week

[chilly brook]

I didn’t do a m+ last week 😑

[modern brook]

@chilly brook my outlaw is 403 w/ 400 mainhand, and he does ~12k->18k depending on rolls

[distant crystal]

bursting is over 🇺🇸

[chilly brook]

I got sucked into r6

[modern brook]

My azerites are all 385 also tohugh

[chilly brook]

I was about to say that sounds like last tier DPS

[wary gyro]

I'm looking forward to my inevitable kr key since that's what I have every teeming fort week

[modern brook]

I also do like 30k in 4 man pulls

because blade flurry is a skill based ability

[wary gyro]

Only 30k

[distant crystal]

"hold dps" eyebeams

[wary gyro]

My 380 hunter does more in 4 man pulls

[inland mesa]

I need to time KR this week, I tried last week 7ish times and no group for the life of me could do it in time even with skips...44 seconds off was the closest D:

[brisk ferry]

outlaw AoE is nutty, outlaw ST is so dependent on rolls

[modern brook]

KR tyr is hard cause of 3rd boss tbh

[chilly brook]

My 382 prot warrior does more in a 4 man pull 😜

[inland mesa]

1920 io can't time a 15/16 KR is driving me bonkers

[modern brook]

we get it guys im a bad rogue

plz stop

:^(

[chilly brook]

❤️

[inland mesa]

yeah....I think the 3rd boss took like 5 or 6 minutes it was stupid, with lust on axe chick

[wary gyro]

The bridge is awful on teeming fort week for kr unless they nerfed it when I wasnt looking

[vapid thunder]

how does the Servant Splitter stack up comparatively speaking with no secondary stats?

[modern brook]

poorly

[chilly brook]

Don’t go for it if you can help it

[modern brook]

Servant splitter isnt even good on Frost DK to my knowledge

[vapid thunder]

yeah came out of m+ chest today rip

[chilly brook]

But ilvl>secondaries

[modern brook]

Sorry to hear that

^

If its a 5ilvl upgrade u use it

otherwise take stats

[vapid thunder]

word

[chilly brook]

Is it bad that I really liked frost DK last xpac?

[vapid thunder]

take the offensive cd's off gcd and it wouldn't be so terrible to play

[brisk ferry]

^

[chilly brook]

That’s for everyone

[brisk ferry]

also true

[modern brook]

Oh no

[chilly brook]

I haven’t touched frost since the gcd change

[modern brook]

Is offesnives off gcd the new Prot Utility discussion

[exotic spoke]

Our offensives are also defensives.... well maybe I should say our defensives are also offensives and so get lumped into that category

[chilly brook]

No one should have to suffer through the pain of waiting a gcd after using either avatar or Demoralizing Shout

[inland mesa]

5th times a charm on getting a 415 shield right? D:

[modern brook]

GLchew

[exotic spoke]

Gl gl

[chilly brook]

Gl

[exotic spoke]

Especially on skittish griff

[inland mesa]

I saved a roll for mythic blockade last week and then we mongo'd mekka rekill and took all night >.>

[modern brook]

oof

[chilly brook]

I mean avatar before pull->charge->tc->DS

Ez

Skittish is a non issue

[modern brook]

I open Charge tc revenge tc ds tc

on skittish

cause my DPS are monkeys

[inland mesa]

mine run in and eye beam and are like, why did I get aggro....as I'm los'ing a caster around a corner

[modern brook]

E Y E B E A M

[opal peak]

would a second OP be the better route over shimmering haven?

[modern brook]

I hate haven

that said

its defensive value is very good

[chilly brook]

I like haven

[modern brook]

if u can ever fucking see it

2nd OP is more haste

more haste is good

[chilly brook]

Never had any issues seeing it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[modern brook]

im blind

[opal peak]

oh tru

i have low haste

[chilly brook]

It’s a nice gold puddle

[opal peak]

i go 2 OP

[modern brook]

evrything is fucking gold in this exp

[summer wigeon]

its a gold and blue puddle

[chilly brook]

But it’s a puddle

[opal peak]

my old piece had shimmering haven

[summer wigeon]

just like the azerite pools around the world

[opal peak]

and it got me killed on TD

last boss

FeelsBad

[modern brook]

rekt

[summer wigeon]

"it" got you killed....

[chilly brook]

Never had a problem with puddles getting me killed

[summer wigeon]

not you standing in the wrong spot?

[chilly brook]

You can still see the cone

[modern brook]

Pretty sure it was havens fault for spawning in the wrong spot

tbh

[opal peak]

nope

[exotic spoke]

Doing TD 17 last night. Kill last boss, go to get last two wardens - they die, we complete the dungeon. I see the cannon turn to point at me.... fires.... DH falls over dead

[summer wigeon]

damn buff puddles recklessly killing people these days

[opal peak]

was deff shimmering haven that did it

[exotic spoke]

Feels good man

[chilly brook]

Gotta watch out for those vicious one shots that buffs sometimes hand out when they bug out @modern brook

Battle Shout is famous for that 😉

[summer wigeon]

blizz wont even acknowledge the problem

[wary gyro]

See I'm used to the ground being obscured because I play pally and consecrate is basically shimmering haven

[exotic spoke]

Hey, I’m all about killing my group / raiders as long as it doesn’t hinder us. They are welcome to try and kill me too. But they have to be on the ball

[chilly brook]

That’s why I can’t play a rogue

I’d tricks the healer

On skittish

[modern brook]

def did that last night

Its not my fault they didnt give tank lead

[chilly brook]

Lmao

[wary gyro]

I may have a hunter alt specifically to fuck with people with misdirect

[chilly brook]

Is your tricks macro’d to party leader?

[summer wigeon]

usually thats how folks do it since tanks leader to mark and timers and all that

at least my group does

[chilly brook]

I just have stuff like that macro’d to a focus

[wary gyro]

I have mine as a mouseover/focus

[chilly brook]

^

Mouseover is really nice too

[wary gyro]

It's nice for raids and trolling

[chilly brook]

Especially for trolling

[wary gyro]

Trolling might be the main reason I use it

[daring marlin]

buff locks

[chilly brook]

Buff vengeance

[exotic spoke]

Buff me?

[chilly brook]

Reverse their sacrifices because clearly they sacrificed too much when it comes to survivability

[modern brook]

I dont have tricks macro because my tank often changes

but my party frames put RL right above mine

so i just default there when i go totricks

[umbral forge]

I've always tanked the adds cause my co-tank doesn't know what kiting means - how do I reset stacks on Champion?

[modern brook]

M or H?

[umbral forge]

H.
M seems easy enough.

[modern brook]

In heroic, assuming you actually need to drop stacks, you want to SR the stack before seal change then heroic leap away during it

You can probably do that in reverse order

[umbral forge]

Oh I can power through them?
Sweet.

[modern brook]

Depending on IlvL and kill times you can probably just hammer through it if you're zerging it

[umbral forge]

I'm 405.
Guild is garbo though usually 2-3 add phases.

[modern brook]

You're going to want to drop stacks lol

I thin most zerg strats dont last much past the 2nd wave of adds spawning in

[wary gyro]

Wait what 2-3 add phases on heroic?

[exotic spoke]

Low dps

[umbral forge]

I'm usually top 6 DPS.
It's not pretty but its a Friends & Family guild so it is what it is

[exotic spoke]

But yeah, either three tank it to make it a joke or you’ll have to do a quick swap

[modern brook]

God i hate 3 tanking

[umbral forge]

I'll do a quick swap. Just leap & SR during phase change

[modern brook]

pretty much

Just be careful if you do leap -> SR

[exotic spoke]

In some cases it’s nice lol. In general I agree though

[modern brook]

its easier on timing but you'll stack the boss during add phase between the reset and the next application

[umbral forge]

I feel like I'll lose something very important as a Man if I have to 3 tank Champions on HC

[exotic spoke]

We do three tanking on H coven after our first kill. I just sit on paku and we kill him last

[modern brook]

I turn into a dwarf for that fight

[brave mauve]

If it's really dirty, any given DPS with a taunt can hold the boss for 5s without any difficulty.

[modern brook]

So I can solo tank both paku and Kimbull

[exotic spoke]

^^.

Dwarf op op for that

[modern brook]

everyone thinks im a god tank because of that

[umbral forge]

Oh we 2 tank Conclave and kill Paku last.
I sit Paku for the entire fight. It's my favorite fight in the game

[modern brook]

im just that good 💪

[exotic spoke]

Our monk gets destroyed if he’s on paku for anywhere near as long as I am

[modern brook]

everyone does

SB nullifies him

[wary gyro]

I can solo Paku cant solo kimbul because I become a dranei

[modern brook]

I get a DH to taunt after i use LS

[exotic spoke]

Dps comes and taunts off to take one hit and then I’m back to seeing how high I can go.

[umbral forge]

#TaurenRepresent

[exotic spoke]

Got to 40 stacks

Ewww a cow

[brave mauve]

Just be an engineer and solo Kimbul forever 😏

[wary gyro]

Tauren master race

[exotic spoke]

Trying to hit 50 next offnight

Master steak more like it

[umbral forge]

It caps at 40

[wary gyro]

On heroic it caps at 40 I dont know if its uncapped on mythic

[exotic spoke]

Oh, now I’m sad

[umbral forge]

In HC and aNM

[exotic spoke]

I had goals in mind.

[umbral forge]

I was bored and did Normal conclave just to see if I could take Paku through all of it

[exotic spoke]

If it weren’t for the possibility of triple bite on grong I’d try and solo tank him

[lime mantle]

Vengeance needs more CDs Christ it does die when looked at wrong. My warrior just dinged with random trash was more tanks than my vengeance DH.
Also make half of its talents baseline.
Yes. I am late.
But I love VDH

[umbral forge]

I couldn't but shit I was close.

Ooooh that sounds fun

[modern brook]

VDH is a shit spec

[wary gyro]

Paku doesnt even hit that hard on heroic

[modern brook]

designed as an after thought to everoyne wants to be illidan

its the culmination of every tanks weakness

[umbral forge]

Prot warriors dont have a weakness though

[modern brook]

bleeds say hi

[umbral forge]

Dwarf Prot Warriors don't have a weakness though

[fading python]

yo guys

new to tanking

is moment of glory worth stacking?

[umbral forge]

I don't recognize the name so no

[fading python]

or is it better to take 1 moment of glory to buff rally, and impassive visage

but 5k heal every 6 secs seems pretty low no?

[sick sentinel]

WHO DOUBTED ME

[fading python]

whereas rallying cry can be useful for whole group

[sick sentinel]

2 and a half minute under

[tribal schooner]

310 crit+vers or 300 haste+mastery+socket boots?

[exotic spoke]

Ilvl?

[ebon hound]

Impassive visage and Resounding protection is really strong, I'd take those over Moment of Glory for m+

[tribal schooner]

410 400* sorry

lol

[umbral forge]

Whatever gives the most overall stats

[supple path]

The higher ilvl one probably, armor pieces like that rarely justify dropping more than 5 ilvls for a socket

[modern brook]

ilvl

[tribal schooner]

Okay, thanks, so just going for overall +more stats

[modern brook]

no probably

Boots are not jewlery

[umbral forge]

63 Haste is better than 63 Versa
But 64 Versa is better than 63 Haste

[opal peak]

@sick sentinel doubted u for what

[modern brook]

stamina STr and armor gain alone will always outweigh a socket

[supple path]

not...actually true always Jettom, but it's more that the higher ilvl one also has more armor, sta. etc

(I'd take 63 haste over 64 vers in a heartbeat)

[umbral forge]

Yeah but..

[sick sentinel]

they told that double DH+ rogue was a meme

[exotic spoke]

All else equal sure

[opal peak]

oh

lol

[exotic spoke]

But, it isn’t. The only thing I ever question is jewelry - perfectly itemized versus like a 5 Ilvl difference

[supple path]

Yeah jewelry sockets are frequently worth 10 ilvls

[opal peak]

i mean i dont really see anything wrong with double dh rogue in temple, maybe some dungeons

but

[modern brook]

@exotic spoke Your itemization is Ilvl

[exotic spoke]

I meant with socket sorry bullfango

[modern brook]

oh ok

yeah probably 5-10

[exotic spoke]

But yes.

If ten higher I go with that. If only five I waiver and debate a bit

[supple path]

I had a decision on a 10 with a socket and mathed it out as almost a complete wash, yeah.

[modern brook]

Ring ilvl is almost entirely defensive

since it doesnt add STR

[supple path]

And the defensive value is lessened also, since no armor

[modern brook]

^

[exotic spoke]

Yup

[modern brook]

10 is the absolute max im like yeah ok on

[worn elbow]

best traits protection warrior for m+?

[lime mantle]

Warrior tanks have a great weakness: can’t tell people to shut up at range or pull them around.
Oh god how I miss that. Sigils alone make Vdh fun. Too bad, as said that they are as said every weakness put together

[supple path]

BoM x3, DCx1, remaining 2 have some variations

[modern brook]

@worn elbow the guide has them ranked

for both content types

[exotic spoke]

It’s in the guide cappers but censures has it

[chilly brook]

Damn dude

[modern brook]

suffice to say DC >ilvl

[chilly brook]

Just watched some preach

And now I just wanna do m+

[exotic spoke]

You’re right. DC is king - go capitals!

[chilly brook]

Reeeeeee

Giants boi

[supple path]

I'm down to 1 BoM now (

Have to drop to ilvl 400 azerite to get more

[exotic spoke]

Rip Censuras

[modern brook]

yall need to roll better on these 415s

[supple path]

Goddamn holy paladin I ran with randomed a helmet and got their glimmer + light of dawn combo item - one of like...two in the whole game. Stung.

[chilly brook]

@lime mantle that’s only a weakness if your group is so brain dead they can’t stand still around a corner for 3 seconds

[exotic spoke]

I’m debating saving up TR for specific pieces now that I have three 415s with 3 BoM, 1 DC, 1 BfI, 1 IF

[supple path]

We've done the same content and they have BiS 415 azerite x3 now and I'm actively hating my own gear, hah.

[modern brook]

I know u only recently resubbed griff; but youknow what game ur playing right?

[chilly brook]

Oh I know

Trust me

I know

I just let people die

[lime mantle]

My group has a fetish for using all of their CDs and biking shit I haven’t even gotten to thunderclap once.

And pugs

[modern brook]

"xD thats what we get for taking warrior tank" - the people, circa 2018, 8.0

[chilly brook]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[exotic spoke]

That’s why I don’t tank in pugs any more

[chilly brook]

Not people I’d want in my group to begin with

[supple path]

You get like what...5.5 random shots per each specific item if you're scrapping the failures? By the math odds, I think it may NEVER be worth buying a specific piece.

Granted it prevents bad luck scenarios

[modern brook]

for some classes sure

[exotic spoke]

But I literally only need like one piece. Can’t remember exactly which one.

[modern brook]

once you have 3 415s on Prot

theres literally zero reason to roll

[supple path]

I mean even if going for one specific item

[exotic spoke]

Already have 3 BoM, 1dc, 1if, 1bfi

[supple path]

given how small the item pool is

It may actually be still worth randoming, would need to check the math to be sure though

[exotic spoke]

I’d have to check too. But if it’s like a 30% chance of getting screwed I’d just buy the specific

[chilly brook]

How’s Ret rn in m+?

[ebon hound]

Big on reaps 🤷 idk

[exotic spoke]

I mean - what else am I going to spend it on if I only do prot?

[chilly brook]

Cuz tbh I feel like I’d enjoy doing m+ a lot more if I played a DPS that could actually support the group

[neon tangle]

@supple path don't forget you can sell back your bad pieces to the scrapper

[exotic spoke]

Play prot then griff :p

[neon tangle]

and recover 300-something az

[supple path]

<-- You get like what...5.5 random shots per each specific item if you're scrapping the failures?

I think it's...415? I honestly should have known these numbers before making points about math hah.

365

[chilly brook]

Nah I mean like Druid with resto affinity has the capability to stop a wipe kind of thing in heavy group damage @exotic spoke

[modern brook]

how many outcomes are their per slot?

6?

[exotic spoke]

(5/6)^5 then for odds of not getting it - assuming there is one specific piece and 6 options

I think so

[chilly brook]

Don’t get me wrong prot is hella fun but I don’t particularly enjoy m+ tanking

[exotic spoke]

Oh fair enough griff.

I was just joking about how much dps we can pull

[chilly brook]

Oh I know

[modern brook]

roughly a 60% chance of getting the one you're looking for

1-(5/6)^5

=.59 and change

[exotic spoke]

Yeah.

[chilly brook]

I’m just explaining my thoughts I guess for no reason other than being bored

[supple path]

So 1725 - 365 = 1360 per shot, so yeah, 5.25 random shots on average per each selected one

[exotic spoke]

That’s what I got. So if I’m looking for a single piece and that’s all I care about - might as well save up. 40% for failure is pretty high

[supple path]

So...on AVERAGE it will cost you less to get it via random, but a lot of bad luck scenarios

[modern brook]

rather 59% chance of getting the specific peice you're looking for before you're over paying

bbl gotta work

[supple path]

I mean, said holy paladin friend had the same question today...then got the item on the first random. So can go either way.

The real thing is that mechanically, I think it may just be impossible to resist gambling for 6 weeks.

[neon tangle]

also means that if you can do a 12 each week after scrapping you get a new az piece every other week

not including if you get 415's to scrap from the raid, etc

[exotic spoke]

Oh I can resist the chance of gambling

I’d likely end up passing the pieces from raid to other plate wearers

[supple path]

I was explaining to my guildleader why passing other people your azerite items just encourages weak moral character.

It didn't get a lot of ground.

[exotic spoke]

Rofl

[frozen ember]

I'm tanking myth champs and I just reset my stacks like 3x. I'm not sure how I did it. I waited for a cast and then spell reflected - did I just get lucky? or is there a strat there

[narrow abyss]

noooooo shit helm

1/3 chance to get something good

-_-

[near furnace]

so i have a 400 crit/haste ring and just got a 420 vers/mastery ring. 420 better? coudlnt find anything in the guides

[vestal moat]

it is better yes

[brisk ferry]

lol

[near furnace]

wasnt sure if haste was THAT much better or not

[exotic spoke]

And that’s why I’m going to save up at this point puzzlebox lol

Ilvl > *

[deep cedar]

@frozen ember you can reset stacks at will, just have to be sure sacred stacks are at 5 secs or less before you reflect.

[near furnace]

Good to know

[supple path]

@frozen ember on mythic they do a 9 second cast or whatever that if you pair a spell reflect with will drop your stacks.

[frozen ember]

ohhhh

[wary gyro]

More stats>specific stats

[exotic spoke]

Ieatpuppies has the more correct answer

[frozen ember]

thanks guys

[near furnace]

SO let me ask about azerite then too cause I have 3 400 pieces but none of them have deafening crash, but i have a 385 shoulders that have deafening crash. do I still take the higher azerite piece?

[umbral forge]

No. Take Deafening Crash

[supple path]

dropping 15 ilvls for 1 DC is worth

It USED to be worth 45 or something, but post-nerf is still worth 15

[near furnace]

Lame.

[naive panther]

1551 haste without dropping ilvl of course. Still don’t have haste on every piece. Crazy how high it can get.

[snow lance]

Anyone running Siphoning?

[steel mauve]

Only the top ranked players with a specific strat for pulling are

[snow lance]

Kk

[steel mauve]

Or just memeing to try to get the sheep to follow

[snow lance]

That's what I was wondering.

[steel mauve]

For 99.9% of the player base quick nav will be better

[chilly brook]

M+ bros are huge memers

[supple path]

When you only need to convince 4 other people that you're hilarious instead of a whole guild, it's dangerous.

[snow lance]

I was .01 S1 before Prot was cool.

Now y'all all making shit up

[chilly brook]

Wdym

[snow lance]

When there were less prot warriors running keys.

Was easier to be ranked higer

higher*

[chilly brook]

I meant the making shit up part

[snow lance]

Running Siphoning for the memes

[chilly brook]

Oh but I mean m+ bros do meme a ton

[snow lance]

Its true.

[chilly brook]

And people like boost for example I wouldn’t exactly follow everything he does

[snow lance]

I only care about warriors on Tich.

[chilly brook]

Siphoning I only really see being useful on extremely large pulls seeing as it’s only 100 leech

And that being said I don’t think it’s going to do much

[sick sentinel]

I finish my memes

and what do I come back to see

A FUCKING SIPHONING DISCUSSION

[chilly brook]

Dudes running siphoning are probably in this channel laughing their asses off

[sick sentinel]

meanwhile

[chilly brook]

I need to redo my UI again

@sick sentinel what’s your view on rets in m+?

[snow lance]

I have a Ret buddy but hes bad

[opal peak]

ret is fine

[chilly brook]

I’d play a ranged class as a m+ alt but I can’t stand ranged DPS

[opal peak]

I ran a few keys with 1 last week (had to since every1 else in my group had shrine)

but nice for bursting bc heals

[sick sentinel]

ret pala is slightly over warriors in mplus

because of burst aoe, utility etc

[chilly brook]

Where exactly is warrior on the tier list? I’m a raider boi but becoming a m+ boi because I don’t want to make a commitment to a raid team

[sick sentinel]

basically

[opal peak]

imo if u need or want extra aoe healz for the group it's good... otherwise u could prob bring a dps that's just as much dmg but brings other things

[sick sentinel]

I agree with deattu

and deattu's list is Rogue > DH > WW > Ret > Warrior > the rest

[opal peak]

wha

lock tho

them cookies

and skips

[sick sentinel]

melee list

[opal peak]

oh

[sick sentinel]

not general dps list

[opal peak]

phew

why ww 3rd?

pure dmg? they dont really bring much do they?

[sick sentinel]

I would place WW under ret imo

ring is utility

[snow lance]

gotta get

that 5% tho

[chilly brook]

You also have the 5% boost and the incap

[opal peak]

ah ok, wasn't sure what ww go to was so didnt know if they took rop - havent run with a ww in awhile

[sick sentinel]

they absolutely blast in damage as well

[opal peak]

and tru, i run more on my monk so dont think about 5% much

since i bring it

[snow lance]

What percentage of Ret dmg is magic vs. physical?

[chilly brook]

Your main spender is holy damage

[snow lance]

Right. So you want a DH with the Ret.

[opal peak]

eh i'd prefer the rogue in most runs

unless ur running 3 melee

[snow lance]

Right.

But that's why I skip the ret.

[opal peak]

i mean u can do rogue ret

[broken gale]

Question for the collective: would a 410 ilvl Servant Splitter (1h Axe with bleed effect) be better than a 400 ilvl haste/versatility 1h ?

[snow lance]

Prob for DPS.

which is clearly all that matters

[chilly brook]

I’d like to do something more supporty as a m+ alt but that really leaves me with Druid or Ret and I’m not exactly a fan of ranged much less boomkin

@broken gale the answer is yes

[opal peak]

feral 😏

[snow lance]

Rouge, WW, Hunter

[opal peak]

just play rogue griff

EZ pick

[chilly brook]

I can’t be asked to go from 110-120 again

[opal peak]

fair

what do u have

[chilly brook]

I can’t even finish my monk an it’s 118

I have warrior, DH, DK, pally and Druid at 120

[opal peak]

DK is obvious choice

😀

[ebon hound]

Ele shaman?

[chilly brook]

As much as I’m a fan of unholy I don’t think it fits what I’m wanting lol

[opal peak]

imo i'd go dh out of those if ur willing to go with any of them

if u dont want to play boomy

dk is a meme

[chilly brook]

This game is a meme 🙃

[opal peak]

tru

but yeah ret isn't bad so the right answer is play whichever out of those u find most fun

but the better option is prob dh/boomy

[chilly brook]

I just like the idea of doing damage, being able to clutch a wipe by throwing out utility like BoP/spot heals etc.

[opal peak]

fair, i mean sounds like u want to do ret but are worried about gimping group lol just go for it

[sand egret]

Ret is insane

like actually insane

[chilly brook]

As long as the DPS is relatively ok I’m chill with it

[opal peak]

i didnt like ret last week

[sand egret]

oh it's through the roof bruh

[opal peak]

on my monk

literally chain taunting mobs

[chilly brook]

I’m not looking to top the charts

[sand egret]

their burst is nutso

[opal peak]

i didnt tank

bc i couldnt get aggro

[sand egret]

which is quite hilarious when ya do packs + reaping pulls

[chilly brook]

I’m looking to play a class that I’d find enjoyable and be able to offer something to the group besides damage

[opal peak]

i regretted not being on my war

[wary gyro]

Ret has great damage and some pretty solid utility

[sand egret]

and everything just gets deelted

[heavy chasm]

Ret has always been about its wings

[opal peak]

i think ours did like 350k on a pull

[violet smelt]

Hey guys, just a quick newbie question. Should i go for haste/mastery or haste/versa?

[heavy chasm]

Every two minutes they go mongo. Then they hold.their dicks the other 1.5 heh

[opal peak]

mobs went poof

i mean it's good with planning other CDs

like group can blow up other mobs and let ret handle the ones they have CDs for

[sand egret]

and not gonna lie, I don't see too many good ones but I was talking with my buddy on Disc while tanking it wondering if this ret was going to be another Jesus (named after the one Ret from Rag who changed my world) and sure enough dude is BoP'ing me like a champ

[lusty grotto]

@violet smelt look up our icy-veins guide in #268491842637660160 or in the pins

[steel mauve]

ilvl > haste > vers = mastery > crit

[sand egret]

straight up was like "DID THIS DUDE JUST BOP ME?"

[chilly brook]

So what I’m seeing is that when I get back to my dorm in like 45 minutes I’m going to be on my Paladin getting gear lmao

[violet smelt]

Thank you

[sand egret]

yeah griff, if it wasn't hte fact that Ret was a paladin spec...I'd totally play Ret

[opal peak]

lol

[sand egret]

like if Ret had the SAME kit but was Unholy themed

i'd be in that shit

I wouldn't even be mad if the specs were identical

[opal peak]

that wouldnt even make sense lol

im actually really excited for this week

[chilly brook]

I want a sick ass war-hammer

[opal peak]

i push my warrior to it's limits instead of my monk

[chilly brook]

That’s the one thing Ret has been missing is a dope ass war-hammer like all the Paladins have in concept art

Actually I lied

Holy got it

Ret didn’t

Kek

[trail quest]

might be a stupid question but should i use a 385 prism over a 400 sporepods? i know sporepods isnt very good

[warm plinth]

Yeah, they got Ashbringer; Holy got the huge warhammer artifact XD

[chilly brook]

Yes

Prism is better imo

[opal peak]

like 95% of my keys on my warrior were with alts since he's my alt so it wasnt always gr8 - but now ima swap him into main group 😌

[sand egret]

there's always transmog. Sporepods is a whole lot of meh vs Prism which is consistent something

[trail quest]

hopefully gonna roll a 400 one tonight in raid, but ty for the answer 😃

[chilly brook]

@sand egret yea but afaik you can’t mog the holy hammer if you’re Ret

[warm plinth]

You can't

[sand egret]

oh naw, but you can get 2handed maces at least

[chilly brook]

But none of them look good

[sand egret]

well that's a diff story

[chilly brook]

😑

[sand egret]

i'm a 2handed sword person myself

but oh man I just looked and these affixes are about as free as last weeks

[chilly brook]

I want a realistic looking sword for some reason

[signal plover]

Cuz ur dum

Boom gottem

[chilly brook]

U right tho

[signal plover]

U can buy a realistic sword IRL why would u want one in a fantasy game

[sand egret]

there's a few more simplistic models around for 2handers

[oblique garnet]

the next affixes are not free

quaking is the silent killer

[sand egret]

quaking + stuff is

[chilly brook]

Realistic doesn’t mean boring 😉

[oblique garnet]

its alot of extra damage on the group

[narrow abyss]

I don’t like quaking. But last time it was quaking and bursting so idk

[sand egret]

yeah but it's predictable damage nontheless

[opal peak]

is affixes one giant loop?

that repeats?

[narrow abyss]

Yes

[sand egret]

quaking + bursting = bad ^ bad

[opal peak]

teeming volcanic tyr coming up in a few weeks

😃

[narrow abyss]

🤗

[sand egret]

quaking by itself is pretty benign

but I agree it's a silent killer when compounded with other affixes

[opal peak]

when every1 runs the same way 😃

[inland mesa]

is this not a good push week? I didn't think it was that bad, next week doesn't overly scare me either

[opal peak]

it should be a good one

trash might hurt a bit but just kill it all fast

[inland mesa]

need to try to round out all 18s and finally time a GD KR

[opal peak]

lol

maybe not a good push week

for KR

[hushed cobalt]

maybe swap murky/footbomb based on dungeon?

[inland mesa]

we failed 7 times last week D:

[opal peak]

problem with KR is bosses are rough

and trash is rough

so other affixes matter

teeming is a bad 1 combined with fort

[warm plinth]

Just use footbomb.

[inland mesa]

footbomb and seal always imo

[opal peak]

^

that haste

im jelly

[warm plinth]

Kinda curious what your logic for switching them is tbh

what your logic is*

[inland mesa]

we have all the aoe in the world with unholy dk, DH, elem shaman, me

so teeming doesn't hurt as much

[hushed cobalt]

just got footbomb, but murky and chunk of crit=parry for dungeons that punch harder than normal

[opal peak]

i mean the first half of the dungeon is fine, the second half suck

[inland mesa]

yeah debating on brute force and pots whole time, or 2nd invis skip reaping port up after

[opal peak]

i mean unless u have an obscene amount of haste and very lot crit, i'd go seal/footbomb

but even then

[warm plinth]

There's no benefit to dropping ilevel and haste to get parry of all things. You're sacrificing our best secondary (not to mention 10 ilevel of total stats) for a very small amount of an RNG defensive stat.

[hushed cobalt]

footbomb it is then! unless its key smash time then maybe murky

[primal crypt]

.

[opal peak]

🤔

[warm plinth]

But...like...sigh...never mind

[inland mesa]

you'll still do more with footbomb for key smash time

[opal peak]

more haste means more buttons

[hushed cobalt]

o mean, like low 4-7key ranges for others alts and whatnot

[opal peak]

i mean no matter the key tho

whether 5 or 18

[hushed cobalt]

at all? hmm
and i think i bonus'd the murky

[warm plinth]

More stats is always better. It's not dependent on key level

Having haste on the higher one is just a nail in the coffin

[hushed cobalt]

but i rolled and got something, currently rng-emotionally invested

[inland mesa]

you smash all the things faster instea dof smashing all the things and sometimes crit'ing

[opal peak]

i mean use what u want

or use what's better

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hushed cobalt]

mannnnn i was all like, yay ring from coin and now im sadpanda

[inland mesa]

I use a shovel as i RP a farmer

which was the coin?

[vocal skiff]

I just got another 410 shield from the weekly chest

[inland mesa]

you're not invited to my birthday party

[vocal skiff]

For reference, I got a 410 shield last week

[warm plinth]

I hate you

[vocal skiff]

Well, I am annoyed, because this shield is worse

[inland mesa]

I got a 405 WF from a ML this weekend, inching up

[warm plinth]

Mine is 380 😅

[vocal skiff]

Now, a real question

I have a 385 helm and a 400 shoulders

[inland mesa]

oof, I got like 6 400 shields this push week

[vocal skiff]

helm is source of DC

Should I gamble with the helm or shoulder

[inland mesa]

i'd keep helm

if you have residium roll helm

[sand egret]

you gambling for 415s?

[warm plinth]

Don't all the shoulders have DC

[vocal skiff]

Yes

[sand egret]

id gamble helm

385-415 is rather large

[inland mesa]

I think it's 50% of shoulders?

[hushed cobalt]

well stats are stats, and coins are just drifting in the wind

[inland mesa]

yes, DC is only 15ish ilvls anymore, so if you're moving 30 even if it doesn't have you win

[chilly brook]

Are islands still a pain in the ass?

[vocal skiff]

I thought DC was worth 30-45 ilvls

[inland mesa]

no you pull everything avatar and win

no it got nerfed before 8.1

err at 8.1

[chilly brook]

It got nerfed with 8.1 😉

I still wouldn’t want a piece without DC tho

[broken gale]

Would you guys take Overwhelming Power or Crystalline Carapace?

[inland mesa]

it only extends 3 times now instead of as many as you can fit in

[warm plinth]

I'd choose OP

[vocal skiff]

I got luck

Helm of Raptor King

It has a DC

I will lose a stack of BoM though

[chilly brook]

Yee

[inland mesa]

I think that's what I'm wearing

[chilly brook]

DC>BoM anyways

[inland mesa]

debating on waiting to buy specific pieces or gambling haha

[wicked ginkgo]

do we prioritize haste over off stats on rings or just equip whatever is best?

[chilly brook]

Ilvl

[inland mesa]

If I can get Mythic Mekka shoulders then I just need helm with bom and potentially 3 DC meme

so I may just buy specific

[chilly brook]

There’s a stat priority in the guides @wicked ginkgo but only applies if same ilvl

[broken gale]

don't all the vendor shoulders have the outer traits you would want?

so it's not much of a gamble to vendor shoulders

[opal peak]

@vocal skiff what stats

ur new shield

[chilly brook]

Guys I have something to say

[warm plinth]

4 of the 6 shoulders from vendor have DC either in outer ring or 2nd ring

[vocal skiff]

vers and mastery, cuddles

[chilly brook]

A turtle made it to the water, that is all

[warm plinth]

Did you hear about the new Tortollan quest Griff?

[opal peak]

i got crit/mastery - wanted to see if same

[chilly brook]

No lmao

[warm plinth]

You get to be one of the crabs and slaughter the turtles

[opal peak]

Pog

[chilly brook]

Really?

[quiet ocean]

Can someone help me understand why Merektha's Fang trinket sims so much higher on prot paladin vs other tanks like warrior?

[warm plinth]

Yep

[vocal skiff]

The one I have right now is crit and haste

[opal peak]

if only

jelly

[timber nest]

😦

[chilly brook]

That’d be pog af

[opal peak]

i had 385 crit haste

[zinc vessel]

8.1 "a turtle made it to the water" 8.15 "a turtle died in the water"

[opal peak]

so big upgrade

but no haste

[vocal skiff]

Now I wonder if I should pick azerite veins or overwhelming power

[warm plinth]

https://www.wowhead.com/news=290409/the-cycle-of-life-new-tortollan-seekers-world-quest-to-stop-the-turtles-in-8-1-5

[vocal skiff]

icy veins put azerite veins as superior

[warm plinth]

I'm pretty sure the azerite trait priority on IV is for purely survival

[zinc vessel]

would you actually stack DC for dmg and not BoM? im confused Griff

[broken gale]

isn't that good?

[zinc vessel]

thinking m+

[sick sentinel]

No

[broken gale]

if threat isn't an issue, and your dps is decent, survivability > all right?

[opal peak]

BoM over DC stacking

wha

dps over all

just dont die

[warm plinth]

I am usually more like...do I survive? Okay, then DPPPSSSSSS

[sick sentinel]

U stack bom not DC because bom givees more damage

[opal peak]

ya that

if u can live, heck survivability

all about deeps

otherwise

[zinc vessel]

i thought DC dmg wise was useless to stack

[opal peak]

y play prot war

4Head

[sick sentinel]

DC only gains it's benefit once, excluding the damage increase to TC

[opal peak]

it's not "useless" just not a lot of extra dmg

[zinc vessel]

so if i have the option to swap out a defensive trait for a 2nd DC it would be worth it in dungeons..?

[sick sentinel]

Nope

Keep the defense

One DC is all u need

The extra DC is not worth such little damage increase

[zinc vessel]

i have been having aggro issues on shittish when avatar is on cd and the outlul rogue i play with doesnt have tricks on pull, so i was wondering if the dmg was actually relevant at all

when he opens up with 80k on 3 targets 1 clap isnt enough

[broken gale]

i'd say that's on him

[sick sentinel]

No that's just a skittish problem

[zinc vessel]

"but im tricksing on cooldown" ./crying

[exotic spoke]

Sounds like the dps should watch their threat - OR make sure they have defensives up when they will rip Aggro like that

[sick sentinel]

More damage won't save him from being an idiot

Dps tend to forget skittish is very anti dps

So if he wants to lerooy his way up the meters he can do so

[exotic spoke]

Truth

[broken gale]

it's the worst when you mark a skull yet they focus something else -_-

[zinc vessel]

currently running 1DC, 2 IF though i can swap to 3x DC

just trying to figure if it's actually a decent increase in dmg or not

[broken gale]

it's like hello, i put a skull up there for a reason!

[sick sentinel]

That's actually a good set up for dungeons

[zinc vessel]

my 3 other traits are bonded souls and 2x BoM

[opal peak]

also ur rogue should only need to tricks u when u dont have avatar

"need"

or wait like 2 seconds more b4 dpsing

[sick sentinel]

And yeah dps not focusing a target is like pvpers not killing the healer in a bg

[zinc vessel]

^told him that, "wait 2 claps then u can go" but we depleted 4 keys straight cause of that

[sick sentinel]

Ur gonna get it and ur going to want to shot someone

[zinc vessel]

so you guys recommend just staying 1DC 2xIF?

[sick sentinel]

Yes

[opal peak]

only threat issues that were no bueno i had this past week was running with our ret buddy with the skittish

[lusty grotto]

skittish is over

[opal peak]

other than that i never had a prob *on brew

[lusty grotto]

are you EU? that's one more day

[opal peak]

and yes @zinc vessel stay

[sick sentinel]

Skittish is basically a test for a tank

[lime mantle]

I'll go out in a limb and say the 395 is better on the basis of haste?

[lusty grotto]

youd be wrong

[sick sentinel]

400

[lime mantle]

Wait why

[exotic spoke]

400

[lime mantle]

isn't haste suepr powerful?

[lusty grotto]

400 ilvl with socket

[sick sentinel]

Ilvl

[exotic spoke]

More stats is better than some stats

[modern brook]

on the topic of retribution paladin

I had a pug suggest one of his friends to me for a group

[sick sentinel]

We do not operate at all like most classes

[modern brook]

with he's a retard lol

and after watching him play IDK if he meant like class or actually

[warm plinth]

Haste is barely our best stat. Our secondaries are very close together, thus more total stats is better than less, but specific, stats.

[modern brook]

cause he was bad :^(

[sick sentinel]

Lol

[dense flame]

Do y’all still tend to pull pretty fat teeming week?

[sick sentinel]

Yes and no

[exotic spoke]

Yarp

[sick sentinel]

Yes because u should

[modern brook]

generally yeah

[lusty grotto]

as fast as we can take it

[dense flame]

Quaking seems kinda annoying with large pulls

[opal peak]

depends on dungo/mobs but if u can live

pull it

[exotic spoke]

But mindful of damage

[sick sentinel]

No because some groups can't handle it

[modern brook]

quaking doesnt scale with pull size

[warm plinth]

Nimchip can take it pretty well winkwink

[zinc vessel]

pull big on teeming, die to melee stackign with quacking LUL

[exotic spoke]

I’ll pull as much as we can survive

[dense flame]

Not that it scales. The fact that it’s fixed dmg

[opal peak]

my group all has 17's and my warrior has a lil ol 11

[dense flame]

And larger pulls can lead to 💀

[exotic spoke]

I’m happy I just have 1.5 melee with me - .5 cause catweaving

[lusty grotto]

yikes i set myself up for that one

[warm plinth]

Yeah you did.

[sick sentinel]

I'd suggest pulling small in WM due to quaking

[exotic spoke]

Agree

[modern brook]

wuaking

[opal peak]

wha if u pull big tho, u can spread throughout the hallway without pulling more

since it's already pulled

4Head

[zinc vessel]

if u keep charging into a new pack whenever quacking appears you avoid stacking with teammates Kappa

[sick sentinel]

Yeah wuaking

Duck it

[heavy chasm]

Worst part about quaking is getting food buff up or having your healer rez a monkey

[modern brook]

cuddels has the idea

IF u just pull the dungeon

[opal peak]

lol

[modern brook]

you have the whole dungeon to work with for spacing

[opal peak]

exactly

[sick sentinel]

Lol

[opal peak]

also the hallway's aren't that crowded

[sick sentinel]

Fucking Galaxy brain here folks

[modern brook]

imagine getting hit by an 8yd ring when u have >100yds to work with

[dense flame]

big brain plays

[opal peak]

the areas that allow for BIG pulls in WM are in open areas

[dense flame]

Shouldn’t you still be able to do the large whole room pulls?

[opal peak]

unless u skystep multiple hallways

[dense flame]

Yeah. Was thinking that.

But some mobs actually hurt on fort

[sick sentinel]

Fort hurts only with witches

[opal peak]

ya i haven't pushed on my war so while i build my key up, ima test what I can do

so i have a feeling for bigger keys

since im used to my monk

[dense flame]

Is there a way to avoid the cleave dot

[sick sentinel]

Run

[dense flame]

Lol, I hear you.

[sick sentinel]

Like that's the only way I've found to deal with that bs

[opal peak]

my monk got a waycrest

so far our key rng is good, we got waycrest, TD and UR

not sure what our 4th man has and we rotate a 5th

[dense flame]

That’s pretty legit.

[opal peak]

dude in my guild got a 19 atal

[sick sentinel]

It's shrine

Goodluck

[opal peak]

u prob right

i'd be fine

but he hates shrine too

so

[sick sentinel]

U'll be fine

[oblique garnet]

UR is pretty aids on teeming fort

[sick sentinel]

Ur dps ass gonna get the claps

[oblique garnet]

same with wcm

tol is w/e due to cannons

[dense flame]

Just pump through it 4head

[stone cloud]

yeet?

[sick sentinel]

Die

In

A

Fire

[opal peak]

hell yeah

[dense flame]

For cannon cheesing. How much do you bring to the cannons.

[stone cloud]

so in the past 3 weeks

ive gotten 420 rezans

this last week and mace this week

[sick sentinel]

It can depend @dense flame , is the person who is in the cannon smart or dumb

[dense flame]

Let’s say they are smart

[sick sentinel]

Again die @stone cloud

Then u can pull the whole side

[opal peak]

literally the same chest i got but u get the socket 😡

[stone cloud]

i want my pallys shield on warrior

[opal peak]

man just stealth to the cannon then run back and bring all the mobs to the cannon

[stone cloud]

mythic champs with socket and avoidance

[opal peak]

EZ

[sick sentinel]

Mythic champ shield 425 socket and indestructible

That a true dream

[opal peak]

REEE

i just want haste

[sick sentinel]

I just want a 410 shield

[opal peak]

im more than happy to get a 25 ilvl shield upgrade

but 12% haste feels icky

[stone cloud]

wot

how

[sick sentinel]

He's stacking that vers

Lol

[lusty grotto]

i got 12% haste

shrug

[ocean acorn]

Wheres your leech

[opal peak]

i lied

11%

[modern brook]

WHOA @lusty grotto

[lusty grotto]

not sure how that's weird

[modern brook]

I didn kno u were a 25% party man

[lusty grotto]

i got a ring in the chest

gotta enchant them

[lusty grotto]

50%parry

[warm plinth]

party*

[lusty grotto]

yes party oops i failed that meme

[modern brook]

what key u get nim

[lusty grotto]

siege

[opal peak]

i mean the 11% haste is w.e but feels less good

[modern brook]

If i get something shitty im probably going to share it with the guild

IF thatsok

[opal peak]

no

not ok

[lusty grotto]

uhh

[modern brook]

@opal peak

[lusty grotto]

depends on what you mean shitty

[opal peak]

wha

[stone cloud]

my stats good?

[sick sentinel]

If ur above 0% in a stat, yes

[opal peak]

lol

[modern brook]

@stone cloud assuming those are your Highest Ilvl options

yeah u fine

@lusty grotto something yall dont need for score

[wary gyro]

Do you have the most possible stats for the gear you have? If yes then they are good

[lusty grotto]

well hmm

install astralkeys bull

[warm plinth]

Turtlebois hate me. Another useless ring 😢

[modern brook]

astalkeys is for nerds man

[wary gyro]

What's today's emissary

[warm plinth]

Proudmoore for alliance, regular equipment cache

[lusty grotto]

zandalari

azerite armor chache yea

[stone cloud]

they are

[warm plinth]

Oh, I thought the rewards were the same

Ours isn't an azerite cache; just regular equipment

[lusty grotto]

not always

[stone cloud]

i just swap vial for

[warm plinth]

Interesting

[opal peak]

ill prob never swap vial

[stone cloud]

in raid

[opal peak]

420

[supple path]

If I kill you do I get your Rezan's trinket?

[opal peak]

good question