protection

[whole torrent]

Lol

[modern brook]

Klaus character progression is sick af though

really well handled

[whole torrent]

Yup

[regal knoll]

Where that trink drops? New raid I assume? 🤪

[primal crypt]

Solid actor as well

[modern brook]

Acteur

[tender phoenix]

big opulence drops the trink @regal knoll

[regal knoll]

Umbrella company will indeed good series, Klaus bu far best actor in the series next to nr 5

[whole torrent]

Klaus is my friends favourite character because it reminds him about his self

[modern brook]

shout outs to paying for emma stone so she can walk around looking sad for 10 hours :/

[whole torrent]

🤣

[hushed cobalt]

umbrella academy?

[whole torrent]

Ya

[regal knoll]

Cheers I still have to even tank NM

Owww acadamy lel

[modern brook]

its what i was doing while yam was being a better tank than i. :^(

[whole torrent]

😢

[regal knoll]

Not pugging it so will see if discord groups have a spot free soon

[whole torrent]

I had a snow day today sooo that mean I’m home alone so come and kidnap me while u can😂

I guys r already comming

U

[primal crypt]

@whole torrent ...

[whole torrent]

....

[primal crypt]

Might want to calm down with the kidnapping talk

[whole torrent]

Y

[primal crypt]

Because this is the protection warrior discord, not the come kidnap me discord

[whole torrent]

Right

[sick sentinel]

I was there as well

[whole torrent]

😂🤣

[regal knoll]

They should really have a separate kidnap channel

[whole torrent]

Ikr

[sick sentinel]

#off-topic

[whole torrent]

🤦‍♂️

[primal crypt]

If you plan on pugging and have the bobsalami trinket, I would use it this week

Just saved me a couple times

Pugs do not care in the least my god

[smoky garnet]

really dont

[stone cloud]

Oh My God! No sanguine and no necrotic

[sick sentinel]

Bursting tho

It's still a very,very nice week

[sand egret]

I'll be sure to pick only the aoe dps heavy pugs, because that's just how it always goes when Bursting comes around

Me: "Can ya'll tune your dps so 6 don't die at once...."
DPS: "JUST PULL LESS!"
Me/Healer: " 😑 "

[modern brook]

they're right though

Thats how the united states education system adapted

If everyones a retard; just make it impossible to fail

CC yellows

pull 1 mob at time

its on you

[dense flame]

LMAO, aye no joke people don’t understand just either kill all at once. Or do 1-2 stacks and let drop.

[primal crypt]

@modern brook lmaooooo

Savage

[dense flame]

Like then they go “you doing all the dps”

[primal crypt]

You know what I was proud of?

[dense flame]

Quit

[modern brook]

Is it hitting 2k on monday?

cause thats my dream :^(

[primal crypt]

My team stopped ahead of time for bursting because they said I cant stop clapping

Brought a tear to my eye

And they all went ST

priority targets

[modern brook]

We tried to stop DPS with afflock and Ass rogue 😬

[dense flame]

That’s some big brain dps

Yam

[primal crypt]

My team, makes my heart melt sometimes

[dense flame]

Cause, not many willing to not aoe

[primal crypt]

And one of my rogs is outlaw

[dense flame]

🤤

[primal crypt]

He was like, saving blade flurry

Just keep clapping

[modern brook]

I had an outlaw rogue chew me out for using avatar on an aoe pull last week

:^(

[primal crypt]

Top kek

Team name might be "Teamorino"

[modern brook]

I actually like that

[primal crypt]

At least that was one of the suggestions last night

[modern brook]

despite it not being an homage to me

[primal crypt]

Teamorango

[modern brook]

Big fan of Team Bullfango was right

[primal crypt]

:)

[tawny sphinx]

Any 1 know if the mage on jadefire still is bugged with spell reflect and deals aoe dmg to the group?

[primal crypt]

@tawny sphinx yas

[modern brook]

Spell reflect on fireballs does not reflect burn out

or rising flame

sr on searing pecks will

[primal crypt]

But if your healers are fine with it, keep reflecting

[modern brook]

I have logs to back that up.

Spam it before hes a bird

[primal crypt]

Searing peck

Didnt even know that was a thing

[modern brook]

:^)

[primal crypt]

I need to find that in big wigs

[modern brook]

its the aa of the bird

IDT its a spell

[primal crypt]

There's no searing peck :(

Not in big wigs anyway

[modern brook]

I mean theres not a reason to track it

Its just the birds AA

it applies rising flames

thats what you'd track

[primal crypt]

Ohhh aa

Sorry sorry

Misread

Thought it was a skill

Yup, I see the rising flames

[modern brook]

heres the relevent things from the logs; for those that dont believe me

Its pretty half assed

[mental scarab]

Do the yellow mobs in shrine give bursting?🤔

[modern brook]

yes

[mental scarab]

A crap

[sick sentinel]

kill all blobs at the same time and die, ez

[tawny sphinx]

@mental scarab take hpally pull everything, tell him to BoP u, use avatar and clap. Ez game. Kappa

[sick sentinel]

rogue can cloak as well

[mental scarab]

but i will kill the rest of the grp dhoxD

same with the first mobs but lets say if druid pop tranc and we kill all the mobs at the same time that should work. it only goes to 5 stacks or im wrong?

and all the HP i have had this exp couldnt heal for shit-.- @tawny sphinx

[sand egret]

well it's % based so chances are you're going to die no matter what hp you have. and it goes above 5 stacks. Once you're at that mark, your healer is probably reconsidering his life choices

[modern brook]

If you pull with real mobs

u will generally get a sick 20% heal

that will make u dies slightly after everyone else

thats pretty nice :^)

[sand egret]

looks good when you live just a bit longer 😃

[modern brook]

I did an 11 shrine oot by ~5 minutes because i suck with Ele and Enh shaman + rogue + disc priest

I didnt even tank non bosses

🤷

[sick sentinel]

well

the less health you have

the better bursting is for the healer

[sand egret]

eh

it's still relative

[modern brook]

ahh yes -> oof ow ouch my bones -> take off pants; the ultimate strategy

[sand egret]

they still have X seconds to top ya, but yeah they can get more per heal

[modern brook]

glad it was removed

The damage is relative but the healing is not

[sand egret]

hence the "more per heal"

the amount of time/ticks you'll die in is the same

[modern brook]

I dont read past what im arguing, tbh

[sick sentinel]

yeah but the healer will heal more % of your health per heal

[modern brook]

y/10 > y/100

thats some quick maths for you

[exotic spoke]

Obviously everyone should remove all their gear after every pull, minus the healer, to make it super easy

[sick sentinel]

you do it after the pull

oh wait gear swapping

[modern brook]

oh no griff was right the whole time

[outer dew]

Wait what?

Having a high pool is fine for a healer

[undone sun]

it's more about predictability than anything else

[outer dew]

They dont risk overhealing and you're still less prone to randomly croaking on a sneeze

[sick sentinel]

I mean

if you were able to gearswap

[outer dew]

But it wouldn't matter

Only time you gear swap is out of combat

[sick sentinel]

we are taking a joke I made way too far

[narrow abyss]

How’s everyone feel about this affix week so far

[vagrant talon]

Fairly easy compared to last week

[narrow abyss]

Last two weeks have been kinda painful for one reason or another

[sick sentinel]

push week

[outer dew]

Depends on your group

[narrow abyss]

Bunch of mongo pump lords

[outer dew]

And depends on the key

Atal is doable, just very slowed down atm

[sick sentinel]

last boss takes forever

[modern brook]

I've done 3 shrines and nothing else

so my concept of this week is tainted

[outer dew]

Tbh

You can skip a lot of stuff in sots

[modern brook]

My group isnt super comfortable with a lot of the skips

which in turn has made reapings much harder than they need to be

[outer dew]

Like does your group skip water ele and all the elites?

Oh yea, you're horde right?

[lusty grotto]

we dont talk about water ele

[sick sentinel]

m0

[lusty grotto]

OH NO

here it comes

[outer dew]

Plenty of meld skips in shrine

(:

[lusty grotto]

there it is

[narrow abyss]

Water ele 🤮

[outer dew]

Can even skip 4th reaping

So you only do 3

(:

Nimchip I have to preach about our lord and saviour ne

I can't even be kul tiran dudu

Meld is way too strong

[narrow abyss]

If it wasn’t the population and getting everyone I know to move I’d be alliance in heartbeat

[modern brook]

Alliance gets all the cool tools

[primal crypt]

we did it bois

[modern brook]

722/stack 😮

I had to drop my Vial for rezan+socket and alch trink

[primal crypt]

I had a 405 vial

Now with this 415

I mightttt drop my alche trink

Gonna have to do some test runs

[raven flower]

is it usefull to play in M+ with 3x BoF + 3x DC ? order shoud i only use 1 DC ?

[sick sentinel]

only 1 dc

more than that you are just memeing

[potent anvil]

aoe meme dps

[primal crypt]

[sick sentinel]

[modern brook]

what do you use to log M+?

im tryna start logging them so i can find my mistakes

slash vindicate that theyre not my mistakes

[primal crypt]

Warcraftlogs

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dXMRYyLwCAFmVn7h/

[modern brook]

is parsing them similar?

or rather can i looka t specific pulls?

or is it just an overall dungeon thing

[primal crypt]

It's gotten better

For specifics

Look at that log

It was just logged now

[modern brook]

oh i just found the boss/trash drop down lol

[primal crypt]

Yup

Im pretty sure it splits now

It didnt before

[modern brook]

looks like it splits for obsses not trash pulls

unless you man moded the fuck out of this ur

[primal crypt]

Lol

Just doesnt split I guess

Hm

I guess it would be too much if it split trash too

Havent found anything that splits them up

[outer dew]

Wtf. How long or small were the pulls for that dung

Where the prot warrior damage yo

[primal crypt]

In my pocket

Working from home so I afk in between pulls lol

So I dont tank if I can help it kek

[naive panther]

oo my that would be nice

[hushed cobalt]

Did a shrine 10 cause need it for io, monk heals did 160 dps overall but only slightly more than double my healing

[primal crypt]

@naive panther it is nice, phone calls come in mid dungeon and Im afk dpsing lol

[sand egret]

@outer dew i see you creepin around in bearland..... 👀 careful not to spend too much time there...you'll get really depressed.

[undone sun]

hmmm

[outer dew]

Lmao

Whys that?

[sand egret]

because it's a cycle of Question > Answer > "Bear's a tank lol?"/"RIP ROTS"" sadness

[outer dew]

Pfft

[sand egret]

it gets realll depressing in there haha

[outer dew]

That was here in 8.0

I survived

[sand egret]

basically

[outer dew]

Tbh, bear doesn't feel squishy

[sand egret]

but at least in 8.0 here we had people going "naw it's the meta"

in there it's like "guess ill go die..."

[neon tangle]

Tofu thrives on playing the anti-FOTM class and kpop

[undone sun]

same

[outer dew]

Theres even times where I felt tankier than my warrior

[sand egret]

Tofu = Thyme confirmed?

[outer dew]

🤔

I mean. I'm rolling bear out of spite

And for all druid meme team for m+

[undone sun]

i cleared abt with only warrior 50% because of spite

other 50% was because it was fun

[sand egret]

tbf I'm tempted to go VDH for this/why I see myself playing less of my warrior now

[outer dew]

If some stuff had a lower CD, off gcd, and some damage number tuning

[sand egret]

kinda an anti-meta sort of person I guess

[outer dew]

Bear would be good

[sand egret]

Bearvatar

[neon tangle]

I’ll switch back to warrior in 8.2 when it gets re-nerfed to the ground

[outer dew]

Lmao

[neon tangle]

I only swap to FOTM once the month is over

[sand egret]

haha the ebb and flow

[outer dew]

I mean

BDK always relevant

So I dont want to hear this from you

[sand egret]

so my warrior has all 400 ilvl pieces with pretty solid trait setup....I'm real scared to RNG roll for 415s but I really don't wanna wait 10 years to get to 7k

[undone sun]

im almost certain you never buy specifics

[neon tangle]

what did you hear, they had 15% of their base armor nerfed, total trash tier

[undone sun]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sand egret]

eh, it just depends on what your current setup is

[neon tangle]

@sand egret don't forget that getting the wrong random is only 1400 residuum or w/e

since you can sell it back for 300-something

[sand egret]

yeah, i'll prob roll the di ce

i did last night on my bear and got like basically my BiS one so i'm not confident my luck will last

I do have a piece without BoM....so maybe that's pretty good odds since there are so many pieces with it

[neon tangle]

just play BDK so all your traits are garbage

so it doesn't matter what you get

[outer dew]

Or reroll and hit 2/8 pieces 2x in a row for shoulders

And not get bom

[sand egret]

woof, that'll prob happen to me

is there a BS/CR helm? cuz that's what i'll end up pulling

[modern brook]

u mean the nuts

[neon tangle]

today is the day

I'll finally be exalted w/ every BfA faction

[modern brook]

😬

[neon tangle]

it's what I get for rerolling

[outer dew]

@sand egret

this is actually

the funniest thing iv'e seen

[naive panther]

Veng traits are pretty garbage too. On my bdk I rolled a piece with blood rite which was cool for the warfront I did..

[oblique garnet]

wcm is pretty is

easy*

this week

[naive panther]

I raided on bdk last night but veng is still my main even though it should be war

Bdk for mekka grips...

[neon tangle]

our druid missed the raid last night

mekka w/o roots is hell

[modern brook]

lol playing vdh

[naive panther]

Yeah vdh is bad. But I’m 413 and good at it

[modern brook]

poor guy

I want vdh to be good tbh

its a really cool looking class

and sigils are cute af

[naive panther]

I do too. Only reason I have made a claim at a main swap

Havent

[neon tangle]

@modern brook weren't you saying yesterday how the vulpera were edge lords

[modern brook]

they are

[sand egret]

@oblique garnet yeah, i'd imagine it's not the worst outside of witches on Tyr and the maggots causing potential bursting fails

[oblique garnet]

just timed a 18

by winging it

[neon tangle]

going to say that DH are far, FAR more edgy

I mean seriously their resource is PAIN

[naive panther]

And their pain is worthless

[drowsy shoal]

why use a blade when your edge cuts everything around you

[outer dew]

nah

bear is the real edge

they havea fucking trait

that's a dps loss

lmao

[tender phoenix]

is it worth Spell reflecting the mage on 2nd boss?

[modern brook]

^ what

[narrow abyss]

Huh

[gilded viper]

Hey i got a question bois. I'm new in here, so i hope u can help me out

[modern brook]

@gilded viper shoot, @tender phoenix what boss ?

[gilded viper]

I just got some 415 shoulders today and i gotta pick between Callous reprisal or bloodsport.

I've already got 3 times BoM, 1 deafening crash and 1 bloodsport

[sick sentinel]

I would pick CR for mplus

and BS for raids

[gilded viper]

Im not doing raid content yet, so CR should be my go to?

[tender phoenix]

Anathos Firecaller (im ally) 2nd boss for BoDA the fireball

[modern brook]

oh they're 3rd on horde

Jadefire?

[tender phoenix]

ye

[modern brook]

@gilded viper both are good options

CR requires some thought to maintian its awkward in ST

BS is just big shield and some non-ngeligable self sustain

[fresh valley]

big shield is nice for dungeons like shrine

[modern brook]

@tender phoenix you can spam reflect before hes a bird without causing extra burnouts

[tender phoenix]

if u dont mind how?

[modern brook]

Spell reflect on fireball doesnt apply rising flames anymore

Spell reflect on searing peck ( when hes a bird) does

if you scroll up / search this discord for "pretty half assed" you should find a pretty half assed screen shot with relevent logs to show that

[outer dew]

it

[sand egret]

@gilded viper I'd personally take the Bloodsport over CR. CR is awkward in general and does provide more offensive value, BS (esp 2x) will give you a more noticeable boost to your survival, esp against stuff like magic spam. CR does give you the damage reduction, but you need to maintain it.

if ya wanna min/max aoe dps, CR comes out on top. In most other scenarios i'd take BS

[distant crystal]

i really should know this but does IP stack with itself at all

[sand egret]

up to 1.3

[distant crystal]

ah

[sand egret]

so 1.3x the original value *

[modern brook]

^

[distant crystal]

sorta pandemic-like

[gilded viper]

So 2x bloodsport is the choise to go with, if im a "new" tank

[sand egret]

yes

[modern brook]

Its pandemic for value not duration

[sand egret]

esp if you're new

[modern brook]

if you want to think of it like that

but you can get up to 130% of the listed value

[distant crystal]

ye

[modern brook]

anything extra is lost

[gilded viper]

Which trinkets do i try to farm?

[primal crypt]

Even as a seasoned tank, CR is awkward

Just another thing to maintain :(

[distant crystal]

i'm diggin' the opulence trinket

[primal crypt]

Would rather just leech and be done with it

[distant crystal]

does a lot of my healing in M+, usually neck & neck with IP

[primal crypt]

I agree

Lol

[distant crystal]

i run the ivus trinket in other slot

[gilded viper]

What the **** is diamond barrier?

[distant crystal]

bound it into avatar and forget about it

opulence trinket

[gilded viper]

oh

From the raid

Got 0 chance to get that.. Im not raiding

[distant crystal]

rezan trinket from ataldazar is nice

ritual bindings from KR

butcher block from WM

but pugging BoD isn't too hard, and there's some nice pieces in there

[gilded viper]

What about the jes' howler?

[sand egret]

Yamo, get outta here with that NSFW post

[primal crypt]

Bindings are less than desirable

[slow nimbus]

I got a 410 butcher block in my chest. So that's good for prot?

[primal crypt]

@sand egret 💦

[sand egret]

that stupid trinket is the ONE reason I'd consider raiding again...

[distant crystal]

first boss on mythic

is a treasure trove

[sand egret]

mehhh

[distant crystal]

weapon for dps specs, nice shield, nice azerite

got a 415 weap and then bonus rolled 415 shield last week :p

hoping for azerite this week

for third 415 BoM

[sand egret]

well i have a 410 shield, i couldn't give a flying fuck about "dps specs" and I'm pretty fine on azerite =). Not enough to overcome the downside: actually raiding.

[half carbon]

is it possible to reflect at firemasters now?

or does it still do raid dmg

[modern brook]

Does anyone know what O: means in damage logs?

ie: R = raw, B = block, m = mitigated

etc

[open bluff]

overkill

[undone sun]

^

[modern brook]

tyty

Prot Paladins block right?

[undone sun]

yes

[modern brook]

like not as much as warriors but enough that i should see more than 1 block froma protadin on adds in champions?

I'm trying to review a protadins logs but i dont know what the fuck this class does lol

[steel mauve]

Ya they have ways to improve their block chance just not up to 100% like us

[modern brook]

From what im seeing i tihnk hes just turning his back too much

I count like 6 instances of block across 6 wipes

all deaths are 100k+ melee hits 3 in a row

[steel mauve]

Their AM is basically sotr which is increased armor and dmg reduction from standing in cons, but their can up their block chance and block amount with talents/traits

He should definitely have more than 1 block per attempt

[modern brook]

I'm exagerating but its SUPER low

maybe 2-3 a pull

16 on this one in a 150s fight :/

[sand egret]

Prob wanna cross-reference their block chance with block/hits to see if it adds up

[modern brook]

maaan

[sand egret]

could be bad rng, but if you're noticing consistent results they could be doing something wrong

[modern brook]

I know that when i add tanked i wasnt getting trucked for 300k in 3s 🤷

i think hes just running a lot

and doing so with his back to the crusaders

[wary gyro]

Speaking as someone who does play prot pally he should have much higher hits blocked than that

[sand egret]

backhits seem likely

[modern brook]

I also just noticed he hasnt used a cooldown

though i imagine prot cd's are more premium than ours

[wary gyro]

Prot has 4 cds 1 with a 2m CD the rest have 5 min cds

[sand egret]

yikes

[primal aurora]

Yeah :(

[wary gyro]

2 are bubbles

[sand egret]

add that to the list of why i'll never roll a flashlight boi

[modern brook]

I know hes using bubble taunt talent

[primal aurora]

Phat judgement crits

[sand egret]

I got me 👢 🍵 👏 for that 😃

[modern brook]

IDK

[wary gyro]

He should never die with bubble off CD if hes running the bubble taunt

[modern brook]

Yeah

A major complaint was the crusader getting the 200% damage buff thing

but I didnt even know that was a mechanic till last night lol

thanks shield block

[wary gyro]

Yeah that can hurt but he should be able to mitigate a lot if it with proper shield of the righteous usage

[modern brook]

does 57% SotR uptime sound low

or is it sb-esque in that we care about effective uptime

[undone sun]

why're you asking warriros when there's a paladin discord

[wary gyro]

It matters more being up at the right time

[modern brook]

BEcause the fun police didnt stop me

ty puppies

[undone sun]

just as it does for warriors

[wary gyro]

He should go into the add damage phase with 3 charges of it ready

[terse scroll]

@modern brook Look at buff uptime for Shield of the Righteous

[modern brook]

TY guys I got enough to point at and say fix for now

[terse scroll]

Oh you did. Just scrolled. Sorry.

[modern brook]

NP as thyme said its irrelevent to the discord :^)

and sal's on

also sidebar 😬 the pally discord

[undone sun]

i just think you'll get way more useful information in the correct location, i don't go to #121880935951106048 asking about warlocks

[terse scroll]

Yeah. I main paladin and that discord is just the same 5 or 6 people jerking eachother off.

[stark sage]

this one too

[modern brook]

^

The big thing for me is IDK what questions to ask

I dont play paladin

I vaguely know how they work

I know divine shield is bullshit in pvp

w/e

[vocal skiff]

I don't even know why I bother pugging shrine lol

it always falls apart

[modern brook]

YEah not a shrine pug week lol

[terse scroll]

Not a TOS pug week either

[vocal skiff]

TOS is fine imo

[modern brook]

any tyr week isnt a tos pug week

cyclone strike -> -1 key level, its the true combo

[vocal skiff]

In the 11-13 range at least

[terse scroll]

If your group doesn't potato into cyclone strike on first boss, you'll be good

[wary gyro]

Does the eye room proc bursting

[vocal skiff]

no

[modern brook]

the guardians do

but the hordes dont

[ocean acorn]

just SR Cyclone strike

[modern brook]

OH RIGHT the omega meme is still real

i forgot

def tryna farm tos

[ocean acorn]

lol

[vocal skiff]

I am not courageous enough to try this trickery

if I fuck up it's wipe

[modern brook]

🤷

[terse scroll]

Meh. So what. Do it for the memes.

[ocean acorn]

iirc it only works if it is not targeting u

[modern brook]

SR memes is 90% of what makes prot great

its why i bug sense about the reflect list constantly

[vocal skiff]

And don't you have to be in a special angle to the caster/spell

Otherwise it doesn't work

[modern brook]

@primal crypt says u gotta cant ur body

[ocean acorn]

huh

[modern brook]

it means like 20* ish

idk why he didnt just say that

But iirc the angling is just for all 3 cyclones

IDRK ive only tried and done it once

but we nearly one phased adderis

[karmic steppe]

Hi guys, how's Bonded Souls ranked compared to other wartank traits ?

[ocean acorn]

i looked at logs for glick

and he did 2m damage with 2 spell reflects and reflected 10 total cyclones

[open bluff]

so uh

is anyone else noticing that avatar is dispelling movement buffs as well as roots/snares?

[ocean acorn]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qTpQAxK1nJ3rFgyD#fight=1&type=damage-taken&phase=1&start=122022&end=286423&pins=0%24Main%24%23fc0d0d%24casts%241%240.0.0.Any%24133379.0.0.Boss%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24263309^0%24Main%24%23000cf0%24casts%240%240.0.0.Any%24189184117.0.0.Warrior%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%2423920&hostility=1&source=9

this is cyclone srike being in the logs

red lines are cyclone strikes cast and blue line is spell reflect

[undone sun]

like? @open bluff

[modern brook]

lol shpicey

[open bluff]

details is saying avatar's dispelling windwalking

[ocean acorn]

what

[modern brook]

it doesnt show in details! right?

cause its friendly fire or whatever?

[ocean acorn]

spell reflect doing dmg no but it will show in the logs

[modern brook]

rip

[ocean acorn]

it counts as the boss hitting himself

[undone sun]

yeah

[sick sentinel]

(playing fury in raids so I have to be fury lootspec in raids) "ok I am just saying now that will go prot for grong so the trinket gets off the table"

get 420 weapon

[modern brook]

god tier kaege

[ocean acorn]

but if u add the dmg done to the bosses and the dmg spell reflected glick has most dmg dps

[undone sun]

weird, even though windwalking is flagged for cannot be canceled and Unaffected by invulnerability @open bluff

likely a bug

but logs will help further

[ocean acorn]

wind walkers slowing u down

lol

[dusky seal]

yo, would you guys pick Blightborne Infusion over Callous Reprisal? and would you pick treacherous cove over reprisal? Mostly for m+

[open bluff]

not for m+

[dusky seal]

sucks having to run 2x reprisal though.. yikes

[open bluff]

@undone sun https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZR6pQaT4kAFCBtVN/#fight=7&type=dispels

(ignore the fact that the sorry ass pug couldn't down opulence despite reforming a couple of times)

[undone sun]

lol

[open bluff]

had a raid full of gohans, dodge is too difficult a concept

[onyx radish]

Is there a consensus on socket ilvl value? 405 socket HASTE/vers vs a 415 no sock VERS/crit pair of pants

[stark sage]

on pants its abotu 5

about 5

maybe less depending on the stats

[undone sun]

interesting, you have 4 dispells but 0% uptime on windwalking

[onyx radish]

So ilvl over socket/stats in this case?

[undone sun]

but yokasta has 2 dispells with 99% uptime (the usual)

likely just a bug

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stark sage]

yeah @onyx radish for items like wrist/cloak/rings it is higher value

like ~10 maybe 15 in some cases

but legs have big budget

[onyx radish]

Pants give too much armor/stam though huh?

[stark sage]

for str and armor

[dim kindle]

Which trinkets would you guys use :)?

[onyx radish]

I'd use holwer and then shove the other 2 up y...

jk

[sand egret]

what are ya talking about @undone sun , that's the Avatar nerf. See? We're trash tier now!

[dim kindle]

😮

[onyx radish]

@dim kindle jealousy 😐

[sand egret]

i'd take the Jes, then put it in a nice little box.

and light that box on fire

[dim kindle]

It will survive, it also has leech on it 😉

[sand egret]

that still doesn't make up for the grossness that is using that trinket

esp if you got Rezan's and DLRP in the hopper

[lusty grotto]

hehehehe

i have no idea what's the first one

oh its diamond

[dim kindle]

So i guess i'll scrap my weekly+ cache reward

[sand egret]

well to be perfectly transparent, @dim kindle , I loathe that trinket. There are some who will very much disagree with me.

[terse scroll]

Yep. I like howler. Whole group gets to blast? Yes, please.

[sand egret]

"Only if you all group up within 12 yards!"

[lusty grotto]

"every 2 mins so it will not align with avatar!"

[sand egret]

positional requirements + terrible cd desyncs = 🤢

vs....Rezan's

[modern brook]

Big dino eye for big boy stomps

we dont need help with yelling

IMO

[sand egret]

if it was like sporepods or some shit i'd consider it, but Rezan's is just so money and DLRP is just solid gains for me.

at a 10 ilvl difference, it's an easy choice in my mind

[modern brook]

Same but im going the opposite tbh

howler's passive str 🤷

unless its not 10 ilvls of str + group buffs sure its harder to use but like dont be bad and its better imo

[sand egret]

36 str delta

[naive panther]

Howlers is the wrong timing. I just got 410 with socket but still using 400 vial and anchor

On dk I have it linked to rune weapon which it’s great for

[oblique garnet]

@primal crypt 1900 soon 😃

[torn gust]

Can u spell reflect grave bolt?

[lavish oracle]

In theory, yeah, but you can also spell reflect reap soul so it's difficult unless it's like the only mob up

cause you're more likely to catch one of the 10 reap souls getting cast on you

[golden wadi]

When the inevitable nerf to prot comes I wonder what it will hit. BOM, avatar, demo shout synergy, mastery scaling, survivability so your damage niche remains but you have to play more defensive?

[lavish oracle]

I'm still guessing it'll be Unstoppable Force

because our damage is fine outside Avatar

I don't think they'll nerf us, though

We're only super popular this season because reaping plays right into our strengths

[clear quarry]

1x Meticulous Scheming and 1x Deaf crash..... or 2x Deaf Crash?

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet ❤

1900 goooooo

[lavish oracle]

What's your other DC piece switch to, Meldarian?

Something equally trash?

[clear quarry]

The toss up is between MS and DC.

The other is...

Dagger in the back lol

[lavish oracle]

MS is bad, soooo...

just take the second DC

[clear quarry]

okies

[sand egret]

@golden wadi I'm almost positive if they want to "nerf" prot (read: most likely to mitigate our outlying damage comparative to the other tanks) it'll prob come in UF's TClap scaling. Ideally, it'll be a reduction in the damage component with the CDR (and therefore rage gen benefits of the talent) remaining the same. There's a lot of stuff that compounds but a 2x multiplier on top of that is where you wanna clip us.

[lavish oracle]

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if they nerfed block values, tbh

[sand egret]

Also note that this can be done independent of it impacting our threat generation.

as abilities have seperate threat modifiers

[lavish oracle]

Our mitigation is kinda absurd

[sand egret]

yeah, i can totally see that taking a hit as well to future-proof us

i'm thinking of how we're going to look in 8.2 level stats (particularly during BoM-stacked Avatar)

[golden wadi]

I’m waiting for them to realize that block scaling is going to be an ever increasing issue as we get more block from higher ilvl shields and more mastery plus hasten for higher AM uptime/less gaps.

[lavish oracle]

@golden wadi Block is calculated with K-value like armor DR, so theoretically it should still be sort've the same as long as you're doing current content

[supple path]

Isn't block scaling already sort of nerfed by the 85% reduction cap?

unless I'm misremembering how that works

[lavish oracle]

Benefit from mastery is

[golden wadi]

I do remember that being a thing, good correction @lavish oracle

[fickle urchin]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gRgQAbNKemoXDB3gkS5fNL

I m looking for pointers with my gear. Thinking of getting into m+ tanking and maybe standing in as a backup for raid. I main fury, so the azerite that is set up for fury is "off limits", but anything else i can reforge.

anyone willing to give it a look, i d appreciate it

[lavish oracle]

Switch to Anger Management

[sand egret]

👀

[supple path]

And you tend to wanna gem/enchant for haste

[fickle urchin]

ok will do

even weapon?

[sand egret]

I'd recommend checking out the guide as well 😃

[lavish oracle]

Yeah, Quick nav for weapon

[sand egret]

all of this (including talent setup and gemming/enchanting) is covered

[supple path]

Yeah, honestly, prot gear is deceptively simple.

The guide covers you in 99.9% of scenarios

[fickle urchin]

i mean i know the basics, i was more wondering about azerite and stuff, if i should swap some powers around, and if i was making any big errors on spec

[lavish oracle]

Big ilvl is best ilvl

[sand egret]

other than not havving AM

the guide does a good stack ranking of traits, esp for raiding

[supple path]

I'd go with earthlink over strength in numbers on your chest, though if you're planning on doing higher content that may not apply.

[fickle urchin]

i m gonna be more m+ing it as tank i think

[lavish oracle]

Your trait setup is pretty good for M+

Same with trinkets

[supple path]

In general you wanna prioritize DPS over survivability traits until you're doing...what, 15-18ish range?

[sand egret]

eh, that's not the best advice

[fickle urchin]

nothing wroth with 2x IF =?

[sand egret]

your priorities are relative to your content

[supple path]

Well yeah, rule of thumbs never really are.

[golden wadi]

Maybe not even that. Seen plenty of full mongo boys last week with pure dps traits lol.

And they were tanking 20-21’s fine.

[sand egret]

if you're getting crushed in +6s, then you shoudlnt be gearing DPS

[supple path]

If they're getting crushed in +6s with that gear

[lavish oracle]

I mean, when you're that good, you can make a lot of stuff work 😄

[supple path]

they need to focus on staying awake at keyboard rather than gearing choices

[golden wadi]

I will admit I was impressed, but the dude was giving his resto druid a mini heart attack when his mitigation ran out and a single hit from the pack on his leap out was taking him to like a quarter health.

[sand egret]

sure, but I'd just be wary of throwing out specifics like that. Could be interpreted the wrong way when the mantra is really check yoself if you get wrecked yoself

I get wat ya mean, but it's more of a personal call 😃

[fickle urchin]

so switch my wpn enchant, go AM, and i m good for m+

[sand egret]

yeah

[fickle urchin]

maybe reforge chest for earthlonk too

[supple path]

It's pretty minor either way on the chest, they're both not great traits.

[sand egret]

yeah, it's not a huge deal either way

[fickle urchin]

ok thanks

[sand egret]

technically Earthlink is both dps and surivability

[lavish oracle]

AM will make a huge difference, though

[sand egret]

while SiN is just defense

AM however, is a must-fix. full stop.

[supple path]

Yeah AM is massive, gives you like 50% more avatars

[fickle urchin]

yeah i havnt looked much at tanking since the early bfa

[supple path]

And plays heavily into the warrior tanking ideal of "always have shield block or a CD up if taking serious dama ge"

[fickle urchin]

back then, heavy rep was recommended for tanking

or, it was an option at least

[sand egret]

O_O

when? lol

[supple path]

The guides in mid-legion all talked up HR, some of them didn't change over in early BfA

[fickle urchin]

well, thats what i remember.

that musta been it then

[lavish oracle]

Back when people didn't know what they were talking about shrug 😄

[sand egret]

well select AM and never look back

to me it's the same as equipping a shield

[fickle urchin]

also gotta get used to not just popping last stand as part of a macro, now that I m using the block tallent

and rotate it propperly

[supple path]

Yeah, you wanna lead with shield block, exhaust charges on it, then bridge with last stand until shield block recharges.

Get some weakauras that track IP and shield block/bolster if you don't already have something for it

[fickle urchin]

just to be sure, double IF was ok right

[sand egret]

yep

[supple path]

Yeah. Our ideal trait line-up for m+ is 3x BoM, 1x DC, 2 x IF

[fickle urchin]

ok i m one off that

[supple path]

(with some debate from people who prefer brace for impact's defensive gains)

[sand egret]

(I'd actually put in 2x BS tbh)

[fickle urchin]

got one brace instead of third bom

[sand egret]

(but that's me :D)

[lavish oracle]

Brace is pretty good so you're not missing out on much

[supple path]

Bloodsport heretics. I have a trait of it and no other leech gear and it taunts me with the heals for 72.

stupid bloodsport/callous reprisal items

[unborn island]

any quick tips for WCM this week?

[lavish oracle]

Bloodsport's p. damn good

CR sucks

[supple path]

be very careful with bursting in the hallway around raal

[umbral forge]

ABC @unborn island

[sand egret]

Ah, my case for BS over IF is: biggest problems/shortcomings I have in M+ (and i only do M+) actually are the unblockables. Seeing as dungeon k-values aren't like mythic raids etc, my block value is relatively pretty high currently. So it comes down to: Do I make what I'm good at, better? Or do I try to shore up where I'm weakest?

[supple path]

Yeah, BS is super strong defensively on a lot of stuff, just 0 offensive utility.

[lavish oracle]

You gain the most value from bloodsport when you need its value the most

[sand egret]

yeah i'm happy to make that trade, memes aside, since we have dps in spades

[supple path]

So for me it's a binary "worthless worthless worthless: great great great" sort of thing

[sand egret]

but BS still does help for blockables, too

IF does nothing for magic, for instance

plus, bigger ip = less I need to refresh IP (to not overcap) -> less rage spent on IP - > more rage for Revenges -> more deeps 😃

[lavish oracle]

And TBH, there aren't a lot of situations where I need a huge boost against blockable damage

[sand egret]

that's just my thoughts on it

[fickle urchin]

how about bonded souls vs brace

10k heal for self and nearest friendly and a bnuch of haste

[sand egret]

i've heard good things about that trait, but I dont have it

[fickle urchin]

(x6)

[lavish oracle]

I don't have a bonded piece to try, I've heard that it's bad from some people and that its great from others

[supple path]

The general consensus is that there are a lot of attractive neutral traits, but they're just not quite as good for us as our class-specific ones (outside of like callous)

[lavish oracle]

So try it and see how it feels maybe

[supple path]

but it's hardly locked down science yeah

[fickle urchin]

I can choose bonded vs brace. Guess I ll give bonded a go

already got a ton of block from 2 IF, so losing brace should be ok

[naive panther]

I want to change my shoulder. Don’t care for callous and the generic is really weak.

[fickle urchin]

bloodsiphon or lifespeed. Am guessign lifespeed right?

[naive panther]

I like bonded. Might be better than brace in m+ vs brace being nice for the extra dr when you also have more external heal sources

I’m raid

In

[lavish oracle]

I dunno, the leech on Blood Siphon is pretty gooood

[fickle urchin]

ok i ll take blood

got a ton of haste anyway

[naive panther]

Can almost never have too much

[teal kelp]

so is there a secret to parsing well as prot in the raid? or is it more so cheesing with traits/trinkets? I recently swapped to tank and before always had like 90+ parses on dps, but my prot warrior parses are garbage. Like I am lucky to get blue parses. I know parses arent everything, but I am curious

[stark sage]

[lusty grotto]

there are some cheesing things you can do

especially on ST fights

plus very specific traits

[naive panther]

Traits and gear and knowing the spec. Some fights just screw you on being on the boss

[teal kelp]

for traits it seems like stacking BoM?

[lusty grotto]

for ST?

no

or actually

[sick sentinel]

you can cheese tank logs

[naive panther]

Movement etc. parsing isn’t always what best for you to do in a fight encounter. So playing around parsing on some fights is just worse for the raid. I see it more this tier than previously

[lusty grotto]

ST BoM might be good, but BFI is great and so is reckless flurry

[naive panther]

Lots of fights where phases your dps doesn’t really matter

[lusty grotto]

but remember these things are only good for cheesing parses (which assumes you are already overgearing it)

[fickle urchin]

oh yeah RF would work for prot. Wtf. Never considered that.

[teal kelp]

currently i have BFI x2, IF x2, BoMx1, DCx1

so i just need to look for opportunities to optimize dps

im more so thinking about in the future, because my guild is still in progression

i was just curious

[river storm]

Is there a 1.7k ish prot warrior that want to push mythic plus this week?

comp: rdruid 1.55, rogue 1.55k, dh 2k, and mage 1.55

[primal crypt]

Not a recruitment discord XD

[river storm]

wher can i recruit then?

if u dont mind telling

[lusty grotto]

#promotion

[teal kelp]

so what is an example of cheesing ST because i feel like i am playing correct, but also new to the spec

[lusty grotto]

heh

people want their rankings, there probably will be reluctance in sharing that info

[teal kelp]

thats fair

[lusty grotto]

its stuff you can easily find out in public logs though

[sand egret]

like, stacking non-optimal traits could be one. If there's a damage buff or something optimizing that (even at the cost of the raid)

[naive panther]

Make your co tank take all throws

[sand egret]

avoiding mechanics to optimize uptime, etc.

[lavish oracle]

On grong you can theoreticallly hit the add and Grong at the same time too, iirc

[dusky summit]

like Boost who has been like the #1 parsing tank runs 2 BoM, 3 tc, and 1 dc

[teal kelp]

yea once i overgear the raid i guess ill go for cheese traits/trinkets

[lavish oracle]

with crackling thunder and reeeeally precise positioning

[sand egret]

yeah, padding is a big one

Hittin' mobs you don't need to?

That's a paddin'

[lavish oracle]

lol

[supple path]

My conclave parse is my worst one by like 15% and I just know what that means other people are doing

[plain ice]

drag the boss to all the raptors

or you're doing it wrong

imo

[supple path]

Also be sure to use avatar when tanking the boss that's gonna heal to full

[daring marlin]

Where do you pad on mobs you don’t need to? :). @sand egret

[supple path]

and spend your rage on revenge on it

[sand egret]

the key is to ignore everything and anything Guilford is about to type.

[plain ice]

actually.. dmg to whatever mob is going to be healed to full is negated by WCL i think

someone correct me if i'm wrong

[supple path]

Is it? Never really tested

[daring marlin]

@plain ice yep

[supple path]

Nifty.

So it just super bones you for tanking it

[sand egret]

fuck if I know @daring marlin , I don't touch that raid and EVERY mob gets clapped in my M+s....

[supple path]

And the actual parses will be by tanks who force their co-tank to always tank the off-target

[lavish oracle]

Never swap mobs, ez

[sand egret]

no paddin if you pull the whole place 😃

[supple path]

My co-tank gets to turn into a dwarf on that fight and remove kimbul's bleed, I can't compete (

[sand egret]

sure you can

[daring marlin]

@sand egret y u trying to bm me

[sand egret]

go DiD

[supple path]

I'm horde, death before orc

[daring marlin]

rude af old man

[lusty grotto]

be orc -> get turned to dwarf

use racial

[sand egret]

^

[raven kernel]

Wcl doesn't reset tank dmg on conclave anymore

Only tanks

[supple path]

I'll break the stun on the trash mobs like a good blood elf human

[sand egret]

@daring marlin cuz I saw you creepin' ❤

[supple path]

So...back to the "avatar/revenge spam worthlessly for parses" then Rei? shakes fist Looooogsssss

[lusty grotto]

wait

youre an orc censuras

[supple path]

I'm a blood elf

my cotank is an orc

[lusty grotto]

im sorry for your loss

[sand egret]

that's your problem right there

big life choice issue

[undone sun]

hmm

[lusty grotto]

be mag'har

[supple path]

I will die before I stop dispelling BoP in pvp

[lusty grotto]

get turned into dark iron

[supple path]

It's my #1 favorite thing in the whole game that doesn't involve dragon charge and cliffs

[sand egret]

SR frost mage burst....so good

[lusty grotto]

you mean magechip right

cause magechip doesnt burst when she sees SR

icelance

[sand egret]

there’s some twitch clip of a streamer as frost that gibs himself...i watch it from time to time when ive had a rough day

his face as he sees the SR go up is priceless

[placid coyote]

Hey guys, do i take blood siphon strength in Numbers or Crystalline Carapace? more M+ opti

[open bluff]

Siphon

[sick sentinel]

I personally like str in numbers but blood siphon is way too good for prot

[open bluff]

CC and SiN are both pretty meh, BS is at least static mastery

(Plus leech)

[merry cave]

Anyone got a good route for 16 boralus (horde). Struggling to make timer

[undone sun]

leech is pretty marginal

[lucid bough]

last week

r.io sob route

[placid coyote]

kk cool guys

[lucid bough]

you do 1 skip with shroud or inv pot

[placid coyote]

cheers

[merry cave]

Got shroud so we'll have a look. Thanks :)

[sick sentinel]

I can link you the one I did this morning on a +17

[merry cave]

Yeah that'd be great :)

[sick sentinel]

https://pastebin.com/fAPuC3P6

you use the spotter for 3 reapings

you can do 4 but you have to kill patrol horse after first boss and it is worse IMO

this is also an open invitation to everyone to shit on my route, and by shit on my route I mean give critisism on what to do better

[lusty grotto]

kaege

what the fuck lol

[sick sentinel]

??

[undone sun]

shit route dont @ me

[lusty grotto]

ROFL

holy shit hahahah

@modern brook and you were complaining about my arrows

[sick sentinel]

dude you do some funky shit sometimes

I could put a note

but I didn't

[lusty grotto]

haha this is great though

thanks for that

you gave me the bestest of ideas

[sick sentinel]

because I use the notes for the reapings

what idea?

[lusty grotto]

HEHEHHEHE

youll see

when the time is right

[sick sentinel]

gonna go to sleep, ping me when it is LUL

[lusty grotto]

probably not tonight, but sure

[modern brook]

delete wut?

[lusty grotto]

no idea what youre talking about

[modern brook]

?? just a normal convo with nothing to delete

[balmy crystal]

hey guys,
does anyone know how spell reflect works on cyclone strike in Temple of Seth?
i saw some streamers do it, i tested it on normal seemed to work but then i used it in a +16 and got 1 shot

[lusty grotto]

mage chip just upgraded 355 gloves

[sick sentinel]

if it targets you

you can't reflect it

[lusty grotto]

400 ilvl ones from darkshore

[balmy crystal]

i knew about that, im 95% sure i wasnt targeted when i got 1 shot

[lusty grotto]

did the other boss cast on you?

cause that might do it

takes SR down, you eat full cyclone = rip

[sick sentinel]

I did that as well

I reflected a jolt

[balmy crystal]

i will check for that, thanks

[sick sentinel]

and got absolutely demolished

[daring marlin]

@sick sentinel I’ve reflected it when it targeted me

I think tofu is just clownin’

[sand egret]

yeah i dunno why it wouldnt count

[daring marlin]

Reflecting all 6 is 👍🏼

[sand egret]

i really need to get on this fun times

i just havent done a ToS in forever on my warrior

[daring marlin]

I have a 16 I gotta do this week

Hope jolt doesn’t cuck me

[sick sentinel]

@daring marlin I haven't tried reflecting it when it was targeting me

Ask Deswind

@potent anvil

[ocean acorn]

deswind said if it targets you then you CANNOT reflect it iirc

thats why if u go into a temple and test your self it wont work

[potent anvil]

that's correct. you can only reflect strikes against other targets, just not yourself.

you still want to make sure you kick jolt during the jolt -> cyclone strike overlap. just to be safe

[sick sentinel]

[oblique garnet]

im pretty sure you can reflect the strike even if its on you

as long as the jolt doesnt go off

[potent anvil]

you cant. you can test it solo and you'll never reflect it. the reflect gets consumed but you eat the damage. some spaghetti code

[oblique garnet]

Gotta test that out tmrw before i do my 19 temple

[sick sentinel]

If it targets you, reflect it the second tinr

You don't lose any reflects anyway

[daring marlin]

I’ll have to try it in a solo run to the boss when I get home then.

[oblique garnet]

Feels badman scuffed 2 18 keys today

A kr and a ml

[daring marlin]

I definitely thought I reflected it last time it targeted me lol

[oblique garnet]

Same

Mostly because i didnt die nor did my hp drop

@primal crypt you timed 5x 14s yet?

[outer dew]

@oblique garnet you can trust me

I died for 10 minutes thinking it was patched

It's just cant be you

[oblique garnet]

If youre doing it solo

Youre probably also getting the jolts

[outer dew]

No. I was paying attention to zappy boi

[oblique garnet]

I dont trust it till i see it myself

[outer dew]

Fine fine

[oblique garnet]

Nothing against you but i tend to believe in things i see myself

[sick sentinel]

Late did you see my route? Nim loved the notes I put in there

[lusty grotto]

rofl

[lime lark]

Lifespeed or Heed my call trait for m+?

[lusty grotto]

its a quality route for sure

[sick sentinel]

Lifespeed IMO

[worthy dagger]

lifespeed fosure

[sick sentinel]

HMC is like 2% of your damage overall

[lime lark]

Alright, sounded good on paper but in that case I'll go with Lifespeed. Thanks!

[sick sentinel]

The aoe on hmc

Is 3 yards

[lusty grotto]

so, should i try making a mythic champs group on my server

[sick sentinel]

That's nothing

[lusty grotto]

that's the question

[sick sentinel]

We sold mythic champs to 3 guys today

And one stayed for grong and jade fire

[lusty grotto]

today in my scrapper diary

ive always wondered

how much do you sell those kills for

[sick sentinel]

And also payed 300k for jade fire helm

[lusty grotto]

jesus christ lol

[sick sentinel]

150k mythic champs

1mill for 3 bosses

We made 1.6mil

[sand egret]

fuckin richmon....

[lusty grotto]

ez

ez gold

[sand egret]

wanan toss me like 500

kthx

[sick sentinel]

Well it's split

[lusty grotto]

i only have 1.2 mill

[sand egret]

i have 5k

[sick sentinel]

Between all raiders that were present

[lusty grotto]

1 day ill have dino mount, its my dream

[sick sentinel]

We also sold a HC boost last week

[sand egret]

i just want the frog mount 😦

[sick sentinel]

And I sold a mythic +10 boost last week

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet team is split for raid nights

[lusty grotto]

mummy raptor is best

[primal crypt]

We just squeezed in 2 x 18

[lusty grotto]

only 3.8 mill to go for bro-nto bro

[primal crypt]

My healer has raid until 11 :(

[lusty grotto]

sounds like you need nimchipadin

😉

[sick sentinel]

Meanwhile

[primal crypt]

We do love holy paladins

:)

[sick sentinel]

I raid 23-2

[primal crypt]

Yikes

[sick sentinel]

My time that is

It's 22-1 server tune

A bit more sane

[lusty grotto]

thats weird

i got some boe green from the isles mission

hmm 15k

[sick sentinel]

I get green boes from missions all the time

[lusty grotto]

first time

[sick sentinel]

And they cost like 500-1k gold

Literally trash

[lusty grotto]

its either residuum for me or AP

or the gold

[sick sentinel]

I wad getting them when I was actively farming AP

was furious

[lusty grotto]

ive sold a couple, they are good money

[sick sentinel]

I just want

The fish 1 hand

[lusty grotto]

me too

all i need for chef nimchip

[sick sentinel]

Or

The plundered blade of northern kings

Looks so fucking good

[oblique garnet]

@sick sentinel route for what

Also @primal crypt did you have to time the keys with the same group or?

[daring marlin]

We sell 10s

[lusty grotto]

all you need to see @oblique garnet

is this

[daring marlin]

ez 30k for each of us

pretty fun tbh

[oblique garnet]

What in gods name is that

[lusty grotto]

BL BOSS

[oblique garnet]

What dungeon is the route for

[daring marlin]

sob

[lusty grotto]

does it matter?

😉

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet not sure

Im pretty sure it's with the same people

[lusty grotto]

this is going well

[primal crypt]

Yikes

[lusty grotto]

ive got a priest lol

[fringe marten]

LOL...one of the ret paladins in my guild's name in Details is Arthas LOL

Also...TFW you get Tuskarr charm and not Feather from Tortollan box.

😦

That's also what it's like when I try and make a mythic pug on Argent Dawn... just crickets and tumble weeds.

[lusty grotto]

what a shame

mythic uldir groups were a dime a dozen