coarse oracle
Morning fellas. Question, my guild's in a bit of a bind tank wise, and even though I really enjoy Fury, I'd like to help out, so I might return to Prot (main for 5 years before switch to Fury). Two questions.
restive pivot
Thanks fellow @sick sentinel
sick sentinel
@coarse oracle prot is the best tank right now for pure survivability
restive pivot
Why surprised?
coarse oracle
lol
sick sentinel
8.1 happened
coarse oracle
at the beginning of the expansion it felt REALLY slow and pretty fragile
oh my dude
now you're getting me all excited
you better follow that shit up
;D
restive pivot
We are in a very good spot.
light warren
Can someone guide me through what to stack on secondary stats. Ive looked up some high lvl prot warrs, and seen some stacking lots of haste and some lots of crit, and also how much mastery and versa is needed or whats the soft cap on each stat, thanks
coarse oracle
that's it, keep it coming 😄
sick sentinel
Thing is, if you fuck up you'll get demolished
coarse oracle
all jokes aside that's surprising but very good to hear
light warren
Forgot to say hi evryone 😅 so hi all:D
sick sentinel
As long as you play properly, you don't take damage
sick sentinel
@light warren have you tried #268491842637660160
light warren
Have not but will now thanks
coarse oracle
@sick sentinel That's good to hear. I will get grinding on AD and maybe set my loot spec for tonights normal raid for prot already
sick sentinel
@coarse oracle so just spam atal dazar because it drops haste 1h and shield +rezans and TD because it also drops 1h, shield and jes'
junior igloo
@light warren
All secondary stats are extremely close in value, it doesn't matter which stats you have.
The caps that exist (100 % crit, 100 % haste, 200 % versatility) are not reachable, so you don't have to worry about them.
coarse oracle
is haste no longer primary then compared to Legion? because of SB uptime?
light warren
Ok thanks
loud burrow
How hard will the next nerf hammer hit our dps in m+? ...
sick sentinel
Haste is the best, that's why we enchant and gem haste, ilvl is better though because more stats>"better stats"
Also armor, stamina, str
@loud burrow nobody knows
coarse oracle
Ok so not that much has changed 😃
rare kelp
Good Morning ! Question : Is Siphoning enchant viable . I saw some warriors using it ...
coarse oracle
I ran for ages with the 4 set of the second to last raid in Legion because of the set bonus until I gave up that 4 set and immediately leveled up 20 ilvls. Result: more dmg, less death. Sometimes pure ilvl can be a good thing 😃
sick sentinel
@rare kelp it's a meme
@coarse oracle it's kind of the same with Azerite
You might have amazing powers and a get a 15 with worse ones but it's a lot of stats
brisk rain
hey, 3rd bastion of might or brace for impact?
coarse oracle
@sick sentinel Oh for sure. With Azerite I just equip without thinking about it, unless only +5 ilvls with shitty stats. If I go from 370 headpiece with Recklessness to 385 with a C or D tier trait, I'd still do it.
sick sentinel
@brisk rain are you doing mplus or raids primarily?
brisk rain
60% m+, 40% raids
chilly escarp
hows the engi helm for tankign m plus thinking of swaping profesion
sick sentinel
it has DC on it which can be good, and the gismo is a really really good trait
sick sentinel
the haste and str procs are massive tho
visual plume
So the 2 set thing for 150 Main stat in Zandalar, is that active in raid?
umbral forge
you cant enchant shields right?
deft gull
Nope, shields can not be enchanted.
umbral forge
cheers
tight tree
wtb shield spikes back ;/
remote tusk
Its part of traits now
old zephyr
yeah but we kinda do that ALL DA TIME
sick sentinel
if you have IF
old zephyr
IF or not We do bigpulls and reapings
sick sentinel
but a shield enchant would be nice
waxen talon
i feel like avatar is up for every big pull, and in the sense of pure dps ur probably better off runnin dublicate DC then
they kinda removed 1000 enchants cuz it was annyoin to reapply it everytime you got a upgrade.
and i think spike on shield shud be warrior flavor. dont let captain america have that.
sick sentinel
dual wielders get to enchant their off hand, lemme put w/e navigation on my shield !
I smash with it, it's a weapon
waxen talon
just let prot warriors run 2x 2hs, dont need shield
sick sentinel
or 2 shields 
restive pivot
Hey fellows I see some tanks are using something to give them a burst of speed. What’s that?
It seems like a consumable item or something.
sick sentinel
lightfoot potion or skystep
daring patrol
engineering belt too
old zephyr
But the Shield though
daring patrol
i'd rather the speed, from my understanding it can't fail in M+ either. at least it hasn't on me yet
open field
Use earthlink or shimering haven?
old zephyr
Heroic leap cover 99% of my mobility needs so Shield id7better for me
slow nimbus
Question. Is it possible to achieve 100% uptime on shield block? .and at what haste?
old zephyr
At à lot de more than 100%
But It's unrzachable and most of the time du to pacing of the pulls/swap it won't be needed
old zephyr
Most of the time you can go SB SB SB (SB? depend on haste) Bolster SB SB
and it will cover most of the pull
slow nimbus
Got it
old zephyr
then you can rince and repeat
use boslter or Shield wall to cover gaps and you gan go nearly non stop
the good thing is that even with SB down we still have very good armor
halcyon crystal
someone knows a weakaura for spellreflect in m+ ?
brisk ferry
engineering belt can 100% fail in M+\
sick sentinel
@halcyon crystal 
@brisk ferry it can't fail
it can fail in m0
but not in raids or mplus
primal crypt
^
brisk ferry
what
I use it on my DK and I've had to AMS it many times, and he literally only does M+
sick sentinel
it gives 70% boost instead of a 150% boost with the tradeoff that it does not fail
brisk ferry
huh, is that new?
sick sentinel
I have been using in bfa since the start
rapid furnace
Is bwonsamdis bargain a good trinket?
primal crypt
Rocket boots have never failed
brisk ferry
I'm sure I've had to AMS it this expansion, wonder what I was running then
alright cheers, I must be misremeembering
sick sentinel
@rapid furnace only for prog on mythic
brisk ferry
does that mean the Brez always works in M+ as well?
daring patrol
Didn't they used to fail back in like MoP and launch you up into the air?
primal crypt
Correct
brisk ferry
cause that's really nice
yeah they can launch u in the air or apply a dot
which is why I constantly have to AMS it lol
primal crypt
@daring patrol they made it so it doesnt do that anymore in raid/m+
That's to include the new brez
brisk ferry
wow brez always working in M+ is fantastic
old zephyr
The brez can fail
primal crypt
It's like 8 second cast though
daring patrol
Ah yeah, that's what I wasn't sure on. I knew the brez didn't, didn't know the rest of it
old zephyr
It happened to me several time
brisk ferry
RIP
old zephyr
It failed me several time already, but Maybe I use it too much cries
primal crypt
Ill keep my fingers crossed that it doesnt ever happen
weary nacelle
what is brez :S
old zephyr
Battle résurrection
primal crypt
brisk ferry
narrow abyss
brisk ferry
if you're an engineer
weary nacelle
Ah I see. That's nice.
brisk ferry
which at this point with the other professions, you maeswell be
weary nacelle
ye, good point there
narrow abyss
I wish the cast time wasn’t so long
brisk ferry
also the goggles are amazing
narrow abyss
I’ve never tested. Does it get interrupted by getting hit?
brisk ferry
yeah as a tank there aren't too many scenarios where you have 8 seconds to cast a Brez without taking dmg
old zephyr
no
old zephyr
trust me I have Brezed my healer nough times 😃
brisk ferry
hahaha
narrow abyss
I got engineering for fury to be a budget meta class. Then 8.1 happened so...
primal crypt
The brez does not interrupt when hit
narrow abyss
Well that’s good to know. Push night tonight maybe. And prot+MW is so awkward without brez
primal crypt
And you also continue to block parry
So you can last stand brez
Or even last stand/wall brez
To get it off
narrow abyss
Interesting
Is it just me or does it feel a lot faster than 8sec for cast time. I keep hearing 8 but whenever I use it’s not that long
narrow abyss
That’s what I figured. Engi helm or rezan procced when I did it or something
old zephyr
My haste varies between 30 and 130% dependings on procs so....
It's probably that
also my model size varies a lot, which is, a bit troublesome on Mecatorque
narrow abyss
Haha yeah
old zephyr
yeah
narrow abyss
I like it yea
old zephyr
unless on mecatorque where you tend to grow/shrink a lot lol
Am I shrunk by boss or did I just get a Gizmo proc, that is the question
and sometimes the answer is Neither : avatar and STR gizmo just ended
old zephyr
Frida?
sick sentinel
First boss BOD
old zephyr
who's that?
old zephyr
but you can not on NM and HM, WtF blizz
narrow abyss
It’s easier on mythic than heroic cause of prayer
old zephyr
because there is less mechnaics you actually have to do them, ... WTF blizz
torn gust
Well just started tanking m+ with guild and timed a 16 FH and just missed 16ML cuz of fail on death skip, for second time ever tanking, prot feels so amazing :p
425 opulence trinket carrying healing like a beast damn
kind crown
is bonded souls any good for m+ the other choice is brace for impact
brisk ferry
BFI is amazing @kind crown
primal crypt
@kind crown bonded souls is good yes
brisk ferry
also that vers question is an odd one
primal crypt
Better than bfi is some cases
Although BFI wouldn't be a bad choice this week as it's tyrannical
kind crown
@primal crypt @brisk ferry ty for answers
primal crypt
BFI is really good if you slam all the time
But in m+ you tend to slam less and revenge more
brisk ferry
yeah that's fair point
primal crypt
I personally have a BFI trait on
But that's because the chest piece I run is used for raid
And cbf reforging
fiery pendant
is the servant splitter (no stat weapon from waycrest) any good?
20 ilevel upgrade but idk if loss of stats is worth
fiery pendant
sound thanks
daring sable
for m+ is a second bastion of might or iron frotress better?
ionic fern
I'd roll with a 2nd BoM.
daring sable
which lvl 33 one shall i take? didnt touch my warr in a while and just rolled to tank ;<
sick sentinel
BfI
daring sable
thanks
narrow abyss
Mine wasn’t as generous 😂
slow nimbus
I have a 370 version of that chest piece that I hope to replace soon
Ideally with the same one but higher ilevel
My warrior is 383 now. I last tanked a 10 at 370 and it didn't go well. Was a waycrest on Monday night. Hopefully at this higher ilevel I can do it now and this weeks affixes
primal crypt
This week is prob the worst pug week :(
slow nimbus
I tried tanking 5s and 6s last night and healers kept quitting because the groups couldn't hold their loads in
On atal it was a wipe every single saurid pack
weary nacelle
what are the affixes this week?
slow nimbus
Bursting skittish tyrannical
I find bursting makes it hard to time certain keys with lots of non elites
Even with a more organized group
outer dew
lmao
meanwhile
i'm debnating how i'm gonna pull the firs corridor of ML
the whole corridor
viral adder
Hello there, Brace for Impact or Bonded Souls ? What do you guys think
outer dew
BFI
slow nimbus
I know that's a thing and I've done it on my other tanks a bunch of times but never with certain affixes
outer dew
very rarely do you stray away from prot specific
outer dew
oh no, i'm wondering all the way from opening to opening
with 2x rogue + 1x dh, how am i gonna get away with doing it
there's enough CC and tricks to pull for me
🤔
outer dew
only doable if you don't stagger
slow nimbus
It got nerfed since it got buffed last time it came around?
viral adder
And one more question, how good is the Siphoning Enchant ?
primal crypt
And no, it wasnt nerfed
outer dew
no. just first week was ass
slow nimbus
Also I don't understand how gear is a thing for bursting when it's % based
outer dew
we were going into the tier at like sub 400
people can pump up numbers more
random damage won't gib you now
so your healer can pump and you won't die to a random meele
or a random ass sneeze in your direction
primal crypt
^
last loom
guys
i just had loot spec arms on accident on first boss
got warforged weapon 420
end me
could have been shield
primal crypt
Should have been more careful
primal crypt
Lmao
modern brook
Rhokzor knows whats up
slow nimbus
Do warriors have low health pools compared to other tanks? My VDH had way more health at this ilevel
And I think my BDK did too
modern brook
@viral adder use quick nav
daring patrol
i have 372k with fort at 412
primal crypt
But I know our health has always been towards the bottom
daring patrol
grats
primal crypt
Gratz to both
outer dew
i mean
primal crypt
Top tier sunburst
outer dew
just gear up your toon in one day like me
modern brook
no socket or leech so its basically trash
primal crypt
Getting wf shield is such a feelsgoodmoment
modern brook
I was doing a gear audit and im like super awkwardly well geared
primal crypt
Basically
modern brook
Im 403 :^(
primal crypt
Or maybe gear @vocal skiff
modern brook
play like im 386 :^(
primal crypt
We burst around my Paladino
primal crypt
When she has beacon of virtue up
outer dew
lot of the lower IO healers don't know how to dump mana efficently
outer dew
or when to convert mana -> HPS
outer dew
esp from raid healers
you'll find that some healers do not want to just straight up dump mana
whenever I'm memeing around, i got to drop a ?????
if my asshole got shoved in
and the fucker is at 70% end of pull
slow nimbus
I run with a resto druid who used to eat bursting for breakfast but after the last go around he's been struggling to do anymore than 5-6 stacks and has to blow CDs at 7
He's a 405 resto druid
narrow abyss
Stagger is the killer honestly
vocal skiff
By staggering you mean renewing the buff?
outer dew
yes
primal crypt
I drag my poor healer around at 20% mana all day lol
vocal skiff
debuff rather
primal crypt
But she's the one who says ready
daring patrol
healsluts will stay at 20% and like it
slow nimbus
We are constantly staggering unfortunately because we run with a warlock generally who dots shit ip
Up
primal crypt
Found out she has 2k of the crust fish feast at all times
outer dew
I had a healer give me sass for telling them to drink
what that pug didn't understand was
primal crypt
Sass them right back
primal crypt
Yuppppp
slow nimbus
And when it isn't him staggering it's my RJW finishing off a low health non elite pack
narrow abyss
I tell my healer to drink. My healer pulls random shit into me. It’s a weird relationship
vocal skiff
Yeah I told a healer to drink before a pull because reaping would follow
healer was glad for the insight
outer dew
nah
once you reach higher up
they usually give you sass
"I know what my class does, and how much mana i need"
primal crypt
God....
outer dew
it's not like I already have to check with my DPS Cds and your cds constantly so i know when i can pull big
viral adder
@modern brook k ty
sick sentinel
415 vial or 400 howler to go with my 400 rezan?
outer dew
vial
primal crypt
Vial
sick sentinel
Ty ty
outer dew
tbh, vial for both raid and m+
there's a reason externals exist
oh btw yamo
i got trolled AF
2 pulls in a row
I get 3 smash in a row
RL ask me why I died and that I called external too late
biiiiitch, I saw teh third smash, screamed for my life, and had SW / SB up
only so much i can pray for dealing with 2x samsh
signal plover
Are u friggin solo tankin
signal plover
That's a normal combo
modern brook
did ur cotank not taunt back?
signal plover
The first tank has to tuant back
outer dew
then my first tank failed me
signal plover
Smash debuff is 2.5 secs
outer dew
lmao
modern brook
^
outer dew
tbf
modern brook
yeah your cotank doesnt know the taunt priority then
outer dew
that was his first time in almost two weeks
signal plover
Dk main?
signal plover
K makes sense
modern brook
triple smash is ezpz
outer dew
so he probably let ithrow
modern brook
the real killer is triple bite
signal plover
Not if ur dark iron ;)
outer dew
if it's on second tank, you just bop
;D
i mean, just meld 4head
tbh, i've had moments where I was real tempted to see what would happen if i melded before throw
if it would actually do something
signal plover
Hell pick up the other tank
outer dew
oh, i gotta compete harder for my raid spot?
signal plover
Prolly couldda helped your triple smash too
modern brook
:^)
outer dew
but he probably would of died getting thrown
the healers tend to forget you exist when you get thrown off to canada
narrow abyss
Then they leave you In narnia
signal plover
Spell reflecting the throw DoT is kinda broken tbh
outer dew
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i still die to bite + impact
because I was forgotten
always makes me happy when someone dies to impact though
gives me a free victory rush
modern brook
IS there a way to check how many stacks of a debuff you get when checking logs?
narrow abyss
Got my first VR last night
Funny as hell
Yeah bite + throw still trucks me without external sometimes. Even if i spell reflect the dot
Single bite
outer dew
tbh
i'd wonder if i would live if i didn't SR dot
maybe they'll remember to heal me if they see me tanking in hp
narrow abyss
Haha
glacial flint
what do you think ? atm seems like "Bonded souls" very good or BIS trait for me as tank.. and Azerit Veins.. trash AF
light warren
second Bastian of might or callous reprisal for m+ ?
narrow abyss
Second BOM
glacial flint
@light warren there so close together.. just one of all 😄
narrow abyss
I prefer bloodsport but that’s not as clear cut. People go back and forth about it.
outer dew
2nd IF
light warren
thanks guys 😄
glacial flint
or just loot at the other traits ^^
outer dew
it's a dps increase and if Bloodsport everybecomes big value
you're better off getting a DPS trait
light warren
one last thing, swirling sand or dagger in the back
glacial flint
LUL
glacial flint
yoooo dps.. lemme hit that mob in the back pls
outer dew
when you ever gonna sit on the back?
light warren
it either of those or second DC
narrow abyss
Bleep
modern brook
I love blood sport
but thats cause i have 200 leech naturally
🤷
and also cause i think CR is overrated
signal plover
I misuse CR all the time cuz I hate hitting revenge off proc
modern brook
My stance on CR is that its too awkward to use in ST; and in AoE IF is better 🤷
signal plover
I just stopped giving a shit about uptime on it cuz I'm a bad
primal crypt
It's fair in aoe, but it loses so much value in ST :(
yeah, IF is my love
Too bad I dont have any
But if I did 👌
BFI for raid, IF for m+
Works out great in any situation, great versatility
Then when you feeling a little spicy on the pulls, swap over to bloodsport if you really think the leech will help
Especially since we're not getting one shot anymore
Unless you eat a slam, but that's your own fault
modern brook
im convinced slams aoe is larger than the graphic
I've been clearly out of circles and getting hit by them
primal crypt
Oh, that's a bug
Devs already verified
The terrain can make them invisible sometimes lol
modern brook
no like
that i know
well ok theres a distinct possibility theres an invis one where im standing
brisk ferry
yeah currently it can strike anywhere between the enemy slamming, and the graphic
JB confirmed it on stream
modern brook
:/
usually id take this time to complain about clear and game breaking bugs making it to live servers
vocal skiff
Are you talking about the reaping shadow smash or something else
modern brook
but tbh im just really glad the reaps havent necrotic'd or exploded
primal crypt
The shadow smash @vocal skiff
vocal skiff
Yeah I got killed by it clearly out of the zone
Did they confirm it to be a bug then
modern brook
i only play with feral druid for that reason
narrow abyss
Im actually surprised reaping hasn’t unintentionally interacted with affixes so far
outer dew
i'm amazed that that galvinax trash still drop 5x sanguine
primal crypt
@narrow abyss me too
Literally zero affix problems
Btw, opulence trinket is hands down my favorite
narrow abyss
Agree
narrow abyss
Love that trinket...working on mythic opulence right now hope I get lucky
primal crypt
Also bobsalami trinket is good too this week
narrow abyss
Oh true...
chilly brook
Yamo
primal crypt
Im using it for pugs lol
chilly brook
I was disappointed with the sparkling water
primal crypt
@chilly brook lol
It's an acquired taste
I used to hate it
Like, a lot
Then I became refined and started drinking things with my pinky up
chilly brook
It’s just very harsh without much hint of any taste
primal crypt
Supposed to take slight sips of it
chilly brook
Then again that could just be Dasani
chilly brook
I avoided the lime
chilly escarp
what do you guys rekon is it more important for mythic plus to have one iron fortress or one bloodsport?
primal crypt
^
chilly escarp
i have double bastion one crash one meticulous schieming and the engi helm
chilly escarp
only a second crash
chilly brook
IF is also technically better defensively
glossy mountain
What's the best way to handle Grong's combo on heroic mode?
chilly escarp
i found meticulous to be quite nice lasts eason
chilly brook
Really it’s gonna be up to you which one you take, but tbh I’d probably go for bloodsport because it’ll help on dungeons like shrine
narrow abyss
On heroic uhhh just don’t get double smashed
glossy mountain
First time tanking it tonight as our MT dropped out
chilly escarp
yeah that was my thinkign also can always reforge for high freholds and such
narrow abyss
It doesn’t hurt much on heroic
narrow abyss
Bloodsport helps deal with what we don’t do well with
IF is really good but doubles down on what we’re already really good at. That’s my humble opinion.
primal crypt
If i could get a decent 415 chest with DC, I'd run my double bloodsport again
vocal elm
What stack of the mage debuff should we be taunting off on M Jadefire?
primal crypt
Oh?
No wonder that shit hurt
I was doing like 15
Lmao
My co tank was like you good?
Had no idea so I was like sure
I have shield wall
narrow abyss
Yeah we can def go higher
outer dew
hmm, only reason you should get higher is if you have CDS to cycle and your co-tank doesn't
you should be taunting basically every debuff
expiration*(
narrow abyss
We just picked 6-7 as a random number and it timed out well with MSS
outer dew
6-7 works because that's how long it expires
primal crypt
Yeah, after that 15 stack we just taunted as the debuff fell off
vocal elm
I was planning on going off Debuff falling off. Spell Reflect just fucks with the flow of a nomral nuber
narrow abyss
Although it’s criminal him as monk gets the MSS damage buff and I don’t 😑
chilly brook
Spell Reflect everything
outer dew
¯_(ツ)_/¯
outer dew
i SR the drop
cba to drop the fireball
for awhile it would add more raid damage
not sure if it's still the case
chilly brook
The temptation to resub is real...
narrow abyss
It’s a fun raid tier and m+ with reaping is way more fun than infested
primal crypt
But I dont take the fireball so yolo
narrow abyss
And azerite doesn’t feel like complete shit
chilly brook
Oh I understand all that
outer dew
that's always been the case for warrior
lol
our azerite traits are actually useful
¯_(ツ)_/¯
bear traits look useful too though
chilly brook
The problem is in order for me to actually stay invested I gotta find a guild
narrow abyss
Well I mean in the sense that every boss drops azerite piece. And the residuum
I think there’s less frustration
chilly brook
And I don’t know if I want to commit to raiding
primal crypt
Funny enough, a lot of guilds have been disbanding
Hard stuck at 2/9
I guess grong is kinda hard?
hushed cobalt
when i try to intercept a friendly that my target is targeting, i click on mini targetoftarget frame on my target frame. i thought a macro for targettarget + @mouseover would work for that little frame, but alas it doesn't
bringing me to, what macros do y'all use for intercepting friendlies?
primal crypt
@hushed cobalt mouseover
primal crypt
@hushed cobalt #showtooltip Charge
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead][@fluid parrotget] Charge
/cancelaura Bladestorm
chilly brook
I’m of the opinion that most Mythic bosses aren’t actually all that hard you’re just sitting there waiting for everyone else to learn the dance
outer dew
yea, but some people can't dance
chilly brook
You’re not wrong
And those people shouldn’t be in Mythic but that’s a toxic attitude
🙄
hushed cobalt
@primal crypt now the problem with that issss on 1st boss in UR the camera angle coming down the stairs made me intercept a friendly on pull
clearly not my mistake in any way yes sir no way nope
primal crypt
@hushed cobalt Looks like this if it came out all messed up
Wait what
Oh
Because your mouse was over a target lol
outer dew
turn your camera with your mouse 4head
primal crypt
I dont have that problem solely because I hold my right click all the time
So I never hover unless I mean to
Weird habit of mine
hushed cobalt
ya know, i am mid-zoomed camera-wise
modern brook
ahahah i bet u use focus kick macros too
primal crypt
Who doesnt use focus kick
chilly brook
You could just macro it so you have a modifier where if you use it normally it’s on your target and if you hold shift it’s on your target of target
primal crypt
The mouseover one I cant use too often
I misshover
And pummel some other jack wagon
modern brook
I dont like mouse over macros on things u have to click models for
primal crypt
One that doesnt even cast lol
hushed cobalt
that's re-evaluating myself and camera distance
seperate macros for enemy and friendly
primal crypt
Just a fyi, some of the nameplate addons allow you to make the clickable range larger
So the name plate stays the same size but you can click better
I think ive seen it on tidy plates and plater
But not kui
chilly brook
Plater was my preferred nameplate addon
Used to like tidyplates but they were broken for a long time
vital plover
Hey guys, which of these traits would you pick? Bonded souls or meticulous scheming?
chilly brook
The one that gives the most damage
narrow abyss
I liked bonded souls a lot personally
narrow abyss
And more haste always good. And the heal ain’t bad. Was like 10-15% of my overall healing in dungeon
When I had a 400 trait
chilly brook
Buuuuttttt how much damage would you gain from meticulous?
tropic star
at what point do you guys start ignoring all the tanking traits on ring 3 and just start going for stats
hushed cobalt
if you must ask, you shouldn't
that aside, depends on your healer/yourself, if you seldom die go stats
daring patrol
my healers like to leave me hanging far more often than I'd like so I seek out bonded souls, azerite veins etc
narrow abyss
You could make argument that haste is survivability
outer dew
Dont need survivalabilty if you kill the trash first tbh
chilly brook
Never
I never ignore the tank traits
It’s not like we’re hurting for damage anyways
In reality the less damage I take the more the healer can focus on dealing damage and you’re most likely going to get more benefit out of that than the small amount you’d gain from the stats
vocal elm
Anyone know if its a WA or Addon that shows on screen what you are all taking damage from/healing from. I see it on some streams, but can never find it. Not the best description of it either >.<
chilly brook
There’s two ways you can do that
primal crypt
@vocal elm
chilly brook
It’s either default UI
primal crypt
like this?
chilly brook
Or another addon
vocal elm
Yeah like that
chilly brook
Miks scrolling battle text
primal crypt
Xct
Shows incoming dmg
You can turn off everything else
And show only what you like
chilly brook
Same with msbt
vocal elm
Couldnt find msbt. Ill check Xct out. Thank you
chilly brook
Msbt is also not updated
primal crypt
Oh really?
modern brook
b is for combat
primal crypt
Gg
chilly brook
Yea
primal crypt
Xct it is then
astral crystal
it's been ded since wod i think?
chilly brook
Nah
primal crypt
Whew
astral crystal
still works though
chilly brook
Tidyplates had the same treatment but I think it got picked back up didn’t it?
chilly brook
Just use plater xD
primal crypt
But the occasional horror stories are there
I use kui and xct
Plater has wayyy too much going on
I want to be able to rebuild my ui quickly if I ever lose it again lol
brisk ferry
you mind sharing those Yamorino? even through DM or whatever, I have Plater but it is overkill
tropic star
anyone here use threatplates? and know why when im not on my warrior a lot of the times the plates dont show up
i tanked on my DH and i coudlnt see the reaping mobs
outer dew
it's an interface issue
tropic star
but on my warriro everything is fine
chilly brook
We’re not in 8.0 anymore
outer dew
let me get on a toon to show you what to click
tropic star
dont think i touched any setting on any of em, i imported and like it so i just kpet the base
chilly brook
We’Re ViAbLe NoW
outer dew
mine was fucked a couple days ago
¯_(ツ)_/¯
make sure to have always show nameplates
primal crypt
@brisk ferry share?
primal crypt
My profile?
chilly brook
No your account name and password dummy 😜
primal crypt
Pfttttt
chilly brook
Woah
primal crypt
Looks like Kui doesnt have a share option lol
chilly brook
That’s awfully forward of you
outer dew
it's okay, I can share
brisk ferry
I just meant KUI profile, sorry
outer dew
that's not a problem
primal crypt
@brisk ferry I can take screenshots of the profile
chilly brook
But can she share?
primal crypt
If you'd like
chilly brook
That’s the real question
outer dew
she doesn't hyave to know
chilly brook
Y I K E R S
brisk ferry
oh I thought it was exportable like ELVui profiles. No worries no need to send me a bunch of screenshots
thank you though
primal crypt
@brisk ferry Make sure you get these three addons
makes life awesome
just in general
tropic star
tofu you saying its a wow setting and not the threatplates addon setting?
brisk ferry
okay I will try that, I grabbed Plater recently cause I was just using ELVui defaults.
outer dew
yea
brisk ferry
this should be good to try out
outer dew
I spent all of monday
tropic star
ill ahve to check that when im home, thank you
olive lily
vial of animated blood 370 sinister gladiaters medallion 385 ritual feather of unng ak 385. which 2 trinkets should i use?
olive lotus
Do the globules in SoS give bursting stacks? If so, do you just ST down every one? Seems tedious
olive lotus
How do you skip the ones in Front of first boss?
modern brook
you'd take the wipe
Altenratively you can burst them down in groups of ~8 and hope your healer isnt a neanderthal
regal knoll
KUI >> Tidyplates? Or doesn’t matter much?
slow nimbus
Question.. assuming you can't run stormbolt because you can't spare the key binding, what is the best other talent in that tier?
sleek sonnet
shockwave CD
slow nimbus
Ok cool thanks
I'm getting surgery Friday and will lose the use of my right arm for 6-8 weeks. I have to figure out a way to play using only my left with no mouse and the best way I can figure out is using a Razer orbweaver
Which means trimming some keybinds
sleek sonnet
It has a very, very easily accessible set of modifier buttons
slow nimbus
I can't
terse scroll
410 Sporeponds :feelsbadman:
slow nimbus
It'll be completely enclosed by the harness
So my right arm and right hand are RIP for 6-8 weeks
sleek sonnet
Is Azerite Veins useless-tier, like pick a bad damage trait instead, or should I just go with it?
primal crypt
Azerite veins are strong when they proc properly
But when you just got hit by an auto and it procs at 98%
Feelssuperbadman
Then at like 30% no AV
And you just cry
slow nimbus
I'm trying to do it so I can use the thumb stick on the orbweaver for movement, upper thumb button as tab for targeting, lower thumb button for jump, and the finger buttons for keybinds
old zephyr
but when you big pull and it procs right, the healer may as well use that time to take his coffe
or do DPS rather
slow nimbus
Is there a better way of mapping it?
sleek sonnet
Thumb stick doesn't move you like you think it does, but it's worth
and tabbing may work yeah
ooft not being able to click a target
:\
slow nimbus
No choice :/
fresh valley
time to invest in a foot keyboard
chilly brook
@slow nimbus the orbweaver thumb stick is just a d-pad
slow nimbus
Spending 3 of those 8 weeks off work without pay. So not spending any money on peripherals
Already have the orbweaver
urban kettle
Sharkbait's Fishhook 400 w/ Socket or Sharkbait's Fishhook 405?
slow nimbus
Hence why I'm using it
chilly brook
Would you be able to hold anything in your right hand?
glacial flint
@fresh valley foot keyboard.. please 😂
brisk ferry
@urban kettle 405
chilly brook
Well you said in a harness earlier so I wasn’t sure if you could just hold an Xbox controller and just use a thumb stick for movement while you utilize your orbweaver for everything else
Fact of the matter is it’s going to be very difficult to play the game in general with just one hand and even harder to play at anything more than a fairly casual level
slow nimbus
It's shoulder repair surgery. They are putting my right arm in a sling that is harnessed to my body so it's completely immobile and the harness extends beyond my hand completely enclosing it inside this weird pocket that I couldn't get it out of without cutting
Which I won't do
chilly brook
Sounds like you need a joycon 😜
tropic star
for damage mitigation is your Armor reduction calculated first or last?
slow nimbus
I'm not looking to play seriously but I'd like to be able to continue to gear him beyond his current ilevel (384) and tank a weekly 10 for my normal group
urban kettle
@brisk ferry ty
chilly brook
I’m not saying it can’t be done it’ll just be difficult to play one handed for sure
slow nimbus
Yeah
I'm trying to find builds for all my tanks that are still viable for "weekly ten and done" levels of play that eliminate some active abilities in favor of more passives. On my monk the only things I could drop were chi burst for eye of the tiger and dampen harm for Bob and weave
The warrior is the lowest ilevel one
I just hit 120 on him in Saturday and he's only 384 right now
Beyond that itl just be watching Netflix and playing M:tG lol
chilly brook
I wish you luck, joint repair is never fun. I’d never wish someone go through an ACL tear like I did and I can’t imagine how bad shoulder would be
slow nimbus
It was a motorcycle accident that would have healed fine on its own but my dumb ass made it worse by hitting the weights too soon
"oh it doesn't hurt anymore so it must be okay now"
Doesn't work like that
Now it needs surgery
chilly brook
Oof
slow nimbus
My demon Hunter ill just run as havoc and slam only 3 buttons they use lol
Super easy
modern brook
if ur mouse has enough buttons all specs can be onehanded
slow nimbus
Those mice are for right handed use only
chilly brook
I don’t think they make left handed mmo mice
slow nimbus
Otherwise I'd be all over that
chilly brook
I was gonna say shift combinations would be hard
But then I remembered Logitech
Good old third mouse click for shift
modern brook
dang
hushed cobalt
i use a trackball (logitech), there are a few that are decent if you wanna get use to mouse moving with a ball
sick sentinel
we did it boys
hushed cobalt
im slowly upping mine and stopping at 1337
opal peak
it aint even 2k
primal crypt
@Kaege#2025 gratz <3
modern brook
gratz kaege
hushed cobalt
and overpower shenanigans
slow nimbus
Which is better to run as off spec presently? Fury or arms?
modern brook
for u prob arms
modern brook
fury is a lot more button pressing
sick sentinel
LOL
slow nimbus
...
modern brook
🤷
chilly brook
Here’s a real feelsbad https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/tichondrius/Kaleggula
modern brook
Fury is the better spec on the whole, rn
slow nimbus
👌
chilly brook
378
modern brook
from public perception
hushed cobalt
guess who is going to get a 445 TF feather trinket from the turtle's emissary??
chilly brook
378 😑
slow nimbus
The only thing I know about the two specs is fury is apparently a lot more stat dependant?
regal knoll
Fury is more fun though at least I think
modern brook
arms is pretty much just haste=> crit
low haste arms is just cancer to play though so i wouldnt say fury is more dependant
primal crypt
modern brook
Arms has the benefit of only needing to farm 1 offspec weapon
It also has grong trinket as BIS
where as that trinket is uselss on Fury
which makes arms >; imo
having done my first M+ on arms last night; i will say I've never felt so pointless :/
charred ermine
What would you guys pick as your 2 m+ trinkets out of these 4 (same ilvl) : J Howler, Rezans, Diamond and RAGE? I've been sticking with Jes's and Rezans but not sure if that's the best choice or not (diamond last week because of damage intake)
hushed cobalt
diamond is ~25% of my healing in dungeons
dry whale
Is rezan's fuyr or bloodpsort better? and is it worht having 2 iron fortress?
modern brook
bs and yes
dry whale
what is the block cap?
modern brook
nerdy warriors than me can correct me but i dont believe their is one
old zephyr
Get the 3 Iron fortress if you can
modern brook
Block Reduction = Block Amount / (Block Amount + K)
old zephyr
There is no Block cap
tender phoenix
should i use [Razdunk's Big Red Button]395 for more dps or keep [Rezan's Gleaming Eye] 385 on (other trinket is [Diamond-Laced Refracting Prism]400 )
modern brook
unless you're talking about chance in which case 100; as per sheild block
old zephyr
However there is à critblock 85% réduction cap
hushed cobalt
my 2 415 random azerite pieces, helm and shoulders are IF and CR, g'bye bom city
old zephyr
Well technically normal Block are caped at 85 as well but that's never gonna happen
sand egret
@tender phoenix ditch the button
regal knoll
Did TD+10 last night, my warr was still just 385....finished but not in time....how to approach that dungeon best in that week? Or just don’t? Seems to me one of the worst keys with sanguine and necrotic
tender phoenix
@sand egret am i right in thinking its more of a DPS trinket then a tank one?
old zephyr
Wm can7be worse if you have to start with right wing
modern brook
Isnt it on skittish Burst for EU also at this point?
sand egret
yeah, specifically its exclusively a dps trinket, vs Rezans that is both a boost to dps and defense
tender phoenix
@sand egret thanks for the info 😃
sand egret
👍
if you’re smashing content you could swap out diamond but at that point its kinda moot
tender phoenix
not even close with my guild 😦
modern brook
Diamon on farm content = more revenge, imo
sand egret
yeah there’s that counter-argument as well
modern brook
when i get my 425 titan forge tonight I'm never taking it off
sand egret
if i ever got one id rock it
primal crypt
@modern brook
modern brook
and ur not 2000 yet?
mint adder
What timezone
whole torrent
Eastern
mint adder
2 minutes til 1
mint adder
❤️
primal crypt
??
whole torrent
Y the heart dude
tender phoenix
it looks mighty fine trnket sadly i will get one 2 xpacs awy time
primal crypt
Lmao
whole torrent
Lmfao
primal crypt
I posted it at like 1 am
modern brook
i was asleep
primal crypt
No one was here except @Puzzlebox#7533
whole torrent
Me to
modern brook
aka watching umbrella academy
whole torrent
Omg I love that show to
modern brook
its ok
narrow abyss
Huh
modern brook
they did a lot of telling and not showing with a lot of the characters
whole torrent
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modern brook
never read the comics
cold wren
modest wedge
rocky crest
