I'm honestly curious what 8.2 azerite rework brings to the table
#protection
sick sentinel
Sametbh
old zephyr
Quick question about the wowprogress "looking for guild" thing
assuming I a a guild recruiting, how do I see those guys?
sick sentinel
There is a tab
When you open wowprogress
Like at the bottom of leaderboard
And it says "people looking for guild"
Can filter by server
old zephyr
Thx
oblique garnet
@marble cipher So you play on draenor or ?
undone sun
hmmm
marble cipher
kek
umbral forge
(all monks are weebs they only understand japanese)
oblique garnet
i need me a guild that is atleast killing opulence so i can do m+ better
but somehow there are guilds on draenor that probably their tanks have convinced that warriors are bad tanks
marble cipher
Well, we're killing Opulence weekly, but, I'm fairly sure we won't take outside tanks just yet 😄
barren torrent
Prot war bad? Ahah They're fool
marble cipher
Also, any tank is a good tank on Opulence when you also have a BrM, cause the other tank doesn't have to do anything in P2.
So prot is actually great, since he can just destroy the adds 😄
eager tartan
As a matter of fact, in mine healers banter the prot pally 😂
barren torrent
Especially on Opulence, in P2 you can just focus on your DPS (and AoE like crazy when adds spawn) while the boss has a bad time downing your tank jewel
marble cipher
I don't know about warriors, but, as BrM it doesn't even matter if jewel is down.
With jewel up, he tickles, with jewel down, he tickles a bit harder
¯_(ツ)_/¯
marble cipher
goes on 30s cooldown when it's depleted
junior igloo
It prevents a certain amount, then goes on cooldown for 30s
oblique garnet
huh
marble cipher
which should be the tank swap indication
oblique garnet
must be a mythic mechanic
marble cipher
dmg in HC might just be too low for it to deplete
barren torrent
@oblique garnet Hm and Nm got this mechanic too, but this boss damage is a joke on HM
oblique garnet
I know im just memeing
barren torrent
Oh didn't get it, my bad
But it's more of a class thing than the boss itself for the jewel. My DK mate can't have his jewel up forever with his low mitigation
primal crypt
Morning:)
narrow abyss
barren torrent
Not in EU 😢
barren torrent
Oh
sick sentinel
Tanks should be able to get opal
primal crypt
Time to get destroyed by bursting!
modest wedge
time to spec to bloodsport 👀
primal crypt
Sure hope the opulence trinket drops this week :(
summer wigeon
really enjoying gearing up my prot war, but dang does he feel like a wet noodle compared to my prot pally.
primal crypt
🤔
summer wigeon
hes 375 right now, I mean I guess I am pushing +8s on him since I am used to like 14s on my pally, but dang. I am keeping IP up nonstop and SB whenever possible. Still so much damage getting through.
although I guess it was necrotic week
primal crypt
...you have it backwards
modest wedge
ye
summer wigeon
well yea I try
primal crypt
Filler during dead time with bolster
primal crypt
That's why you're feeling like a wet noodle lol
summer wigeon
Yea, SB priority 1 obviously
I have SB up as much as possible, better phrasing than "whenever" I guess
modest wedge
warrior without any mitigation vanishes in a second. so when u run out of mitigation RUN you fool
primal crypt
Also dont forget your demo shout and shield wall
They're not just "oh shit" buttons
A lot of warriors I see never use these
Or use them rarely
Should be using all the bigger CDs since anger management brings them all back extremely fast
summer wigeon
I use demo on cd mostly, and try to line it up with avatar
so one demo without ava, then one with ava after, repeat
primal crypt
And wall, dont forget wall
summer wigeon
yea , too used to wall being o shit
gotta rotate that in more
back in the day wall was never touched unless you were for sure going down
primal crypt
Yeah, wall is a big one now to also help block dead time
Just make it a long string of defensives
vocal skiff
Is it okay to pull big on bursting so long the mobs don't have low health?
primal crypt
Try not to overlap if you dont have to
modest wedge
And sometimes its just best spam anything to spend rage to get that avatar or LS/SW up
primal crypt
Sometimes the dmg will get ridiculous, but the longer you can perform dmg smoothing, the better off you'll be
And dont be afraid to kite if you really have to
summer wigeon
yea im never starving for rage, so I am constantely filling with IP to use it up to get cds back
vocal skiff
Also, I wanna thank Yamo for that stutter step trick
summer wigeon
if not in like ML or something do you guys also use IS to quick interrupt and leap away?
summer wigeon
stutter step?
vocal skiff
Yamo posted a video of it
primal crypt
@vocal skiff you're welcome :)
Remember, it works on all ranged mobs
With uninterruptable casts
Just takes a bit of practice
modest wedge
IS?
summer wigeon
Intimidating Shout?
vocal skiff
intimidating shout probably
modest wedge
ah
primal crypt
I use int shout a lot
Even in ML
use shockwave if you plan on running away
Int shout you can break with TC and not accidently pull more
outer dew
Fuck I'm tired
Back to back keys
My bear 393 in less than 24 hours played
@sand egret
vocal skiff
Is bear fun
outer dew
Be NA alliance (:
primal crypt
Oh
summer wigeon
bear is so boring
vocal skiff
I played a lot on Legion
outer dew
Theres parts where my bear feels tankier
primal crypt
My neck just broke
vocal skiff
But they gutted a lot of abilities
outer dew
Kind of interesting
primal crypt
Ally 
outer dew
Theres some parts that need reconsideration
Rage gen is too low ino
Imo
And frenzied CD is too long
And survival instincts CD tooling
And if I didn't have to go out of bear form to diapell
I'd be happy with bear
@primal crypt I mean, would you be a homie and give my bear a 19 key :^)
Ended up getting hooked up before reset again
junior igloo
Bears are not as bad as their reputation.
The problem is that where they are really good (high EHP against physical damage) is exactly what monks excel at.
And every guild already has geared monks from Uldir + monks are probably even slightly better + many players find bears boring.
primal crypt
Also if you dont have the bear mage tower appearance
outer dew
I dont
primal crypt
No point in playing it
outer dew
And just meld
primal crypt
Might as well alt f4 delete
primal crypt
But no mage tower monkey arms
outer dew
But yea. If you NA theres a large disparity for keys
Not that many NA alliance for high keys
You either know people or you dont
primal crypt
I could imagine :(
outer dew
No one pugs anymore
primal crypt
But its the same for horde
outer dew
I'm only lucky because I'm lovable obv
primal crypt
Pug high keys are once in a blue moon
outer dew
And made some friends that appreciate me
primal crypt
And the people who post them are extra toxic
outer dew
Lmao , sad
primal crypt
I should make a warrior there
outer dew
I mean, not sure if toxic or competitive
primal crypt
I liked that server
primal crypt
I never did the research
Friend of mine just told me to go there
Or I could just tank on my pally
Already 110
Or go ret lul
outer dew
Both are good imo
outer dew
It's okay
Just tell her you're obv wanting to play with the up and coming #1 guardian NA Allianxe
I should check what IO that is
It's actually probably doable
Guardian does actually seem doable to push decently
primal crypt
Swipe your way to victory
primal crypt
Night tofu
sand egret
Wooo!
bright pagoda
cant you transmog in prot spec, and keep the shield, but change yuor 1h weapon look?
i was doing it, but i got a new shield and 1hander, and now i cant seem to do it
bright pagoda
yeah i thought as much, but a week ago i noticed i could select legion artifact as my sword. apply it, then click back on mainhand and set anything else
i was usinb a teebu's with the hidden prot shield skin
primal crypt
It's really buggy
bright pagoda
i love the legion prot shield skins, but the weapons not so much, but its fine for now i suppose
daring patrol
the mage tower flail looks goofy on a tauren
undone sun
looks goofy on all races except human, clips terribly
astral crystal
looks fine on my tauren idk what youre talking about
slate pilot
Basion of Might VS Bloodpsort for Raid/M+
ebon hound
Is this bait?
slate pilot
?
ebon hound
Go Bastion
slate pilot
Cheers
small fable
OK...feel like a douche because I know the trinket question gets asked pretty much every 15 minutes...but just got 415 howler ...currently have 400 alch trink and 385 diamond
hear Howler is overraetd
primal crypt
It's a decent trinket
sick sentinel
I like the howler trinket for just before avatar or ignore pain
small fable
preferable to 385 diamond in raid scenario?
primal crypt
But you must make sure everyone is in range of you when you pop it in order to get the maximum effect
small fable
it's obviously quite a bit more strength than the diamond
primal crypt
I would say until you get some better trinkets, I would swap to howler
sick sentinel
yeah i think for now swap it out, but hold on to the diamond, if you feel squishier then maybe swap back
primal crypt
And alche
small fable
can i macro it or not appropriate?
primal crypt
I wouldn't
Like I said
Everyone needs to be in range
5 people in range then you pop it
Well, 4 + you
sick sentinel
hahah i know i have dps trinkets 😢 make me sad
primal crypt
Dps trinkets are good
sick sentinel
So I ran a few 11/12s today and I can't seem to do shit right
fickle urchin
my alt gets all my loot luck, relative to time spent. Mage.
sick sentinel
with sanguine and necrotic
torn gust
Stat prio's for high m+ keys tanking (15 and up) ? haste => versa?
torn gust
no idea how good simming is for m+
torn gust
oh alright, ezpz then. Trinkets matter? Got the 425 opulence trinket, 410 gore buster socket, 400 rezans
primal crypt
Just highest ilvl, at same ilvl you can choose haste to help smooth things out and bring block back faster
........
425 opulence trinket
Im done talking to you
sick sentinel
how hard is to 4man a +12 ToS?
torn gust
Lol why 😦
sick sentinel
AY SPONKS
torn gust
I didn't need anymore loot, already had the boots so i went lootspec to protection
sick sentinel
I HATE YOU BTW
torn gust
425 opulence dropped :p
primal crypt
Oh....you accidently got opulence trinket at 425
Oops
Time yourself out for 2 minutes
Im extra jelly now
torn gust
Hey it's my first warforge and it's not even for my mainspec, i'd rather have a usefull 425 for mainspec :p
primal crypt
Im gonna barf lol
torn gust
Yh gore buster is crit one
primal crypt
@sick sentinel how's everyone's gear?
sick sentinel
410+
sick sentinel
Why is that considered a good trink for tanks? Parry has diminishing returns no? Also only can parry melee attacks?
torn gust
Buyer did nothing yamo?
torn gust
And you timed it?
torn gust
Which key? Thats some good dps then
sick sentinel
moody I have 20% party and when gore block triggers I get to 30%
primal crypt
300k on demand burst
sick sentinel
"on demand"
sick sentinel
I mean they can burst 300k with 1 buff
as long as it is crit buff
and their between the eyes crit
torn gust
But uhm second trinket apart from opulence gore buster or rezans?
primal crypt
He has 1 weak aura for crit roll
And a yell weak aura
For 5 roll
@torn gust the block
torn gust
aight
primal crypt
Its 410 right?
primal crypt
I think his rezan is 400
torn gust
410 socket gore buster vs 400 rezan
primal crypt
Yeah
torn gust
was thinking about haste maybe better
primal crypt
Def butcher
modern brook
butcher by a mile
torn gust
traits is to try and get many different right? In begin i thought triple clap but heard other stuff?
modern brook
If this wasnt the asking for help for a class u cant sim discord i would make fun of u for asking
fickle urchin
i did like 20 WCM for a 400 block no socket :/
modern brook
Traits are basically 1DC > Ilv pieces
primal crypt
^
torn gust
1DC?
primal crypt
M+ you'd use BFI for like tyrannical weeks if you want boss potential, some fights can be upwards of 5 min
modern brook
Deafening Crash== TC one
primal crypt
Blood sport helps with durability
torn gust
Oh boys i'm not familiar with the letter combinations of prot traits :p
primal crypt
On trash, but on necrotic it's weaker
primal crypt
Oh sorry
primal crypt
Yazmaaaa
fickle urchin
bring classes with immunities to pop spideys
primal crypt
My group only started baiting on yazma
oblique garnet
its not that
primal crypt
Still one of the scariest fights
oblique garnet
its 4 minute fight
primal crypt
Very huge
modern brook
Its just that the avg Havoc IQ is 56
oblique garnet
i have a dh
vocal skiff
So would you say that this week (bursting/skittish) allows bigger pulls than the one that's about to end
vocal skiff
So long we don't grab a lot of small hp adds
vocal skiff
That's what I usually do, but I think that I have yet to pull big (2-3 packs at once)
I chain pull, but seldom more than 1 pack at once
and it's hurting my keys
fickle urchin
just be careful of refreshing the dot. ITs pretty scary in sots and wcm some places
primal crypt
@vocal skiff find a way to track healer mana
And it'll help pacing
There's a couple weakauras for it
fickle urchin
even the little raptors in ad can be scary with bursting
sick sentinel
But can they be raptor
vocal skiff
Yeah, hence the caveat of "small hp adds"
primal crypt
The trick to bursting is to kill everything at once and not staggered
fickle urchin
kill 4, and some guy finishes the 5th gets killed just as dot is running out. Reee.
primal crypt
If you keep refreshing the bursting then you die
sick sentinel
The trick to bursting is to just do ur +10 for the week and not do more m+
primal crypt
But technically with CDs you can live through 10 stacks and stuff
@sick sentinel lmao
fickle urchin
eh... they buffed bursting recently
4 will kill you without cds i think
5 for sure
so if you can take 10, thats some big cds.
primal crypt
10 stack isnt bad
Wings can cover it
Especially with all the ilvl now
When people were dying that forst bursting week, I think people were barely 390
Now people are running around at 410+
old zephyr
tomorrow is "disapointment cache day" for us EU
valid portal
Hey guys about stacking bastion of might. All that mastery with shield blocks relates into more critical blocks for m+ right?
old zephyr
yes
fickle urchin
i can feel it already. I ll get another 410 versa-mastery belt as warrior and another BiS TF trinket or weapon on my mage alt
like every other week so far
old zephyr
BoM is really helpfull for those big pulls :
You kill them faster and tank them better for the first part of the pull, AMAZING
primal crypt
Yup, triple bom is quite delicious
Only replacement is the engineering helm, for the gizmo
fickle urchin
RNG for prot right?
primal crypt
Then you go 2x BoM
fickle urchin
cause no-cc breakers
old zephyr
RNG let you have Sooooo much haste
primal crypt
And when you have the rng strength proc
old zephyr
I had 130% haste the other day with Gizmo, Rezan and Lust
fickle urchin
early this tier i broke cc in AD on the totem trolls with a heroic throw on the totem due to thinking BOMB was da bomb.
primal crypt
You get a bigger ip as well
old zephyr
my rotation was all Fu...ed
old zephyr
Oo
primal crypt
Thats with avatar up too
But my druid was like, Im going to trees when you start dipping low
old zephyr
lol I'm not gonna go low boy
primal crypt
Didnt dip low. Took 49 stacks of necrotic before he said yolo have trees
I really scare my healer sometimes :(
fresh valley
i hit 10k str with alch trinket proc and vial. + avatar = allllllll the dps
fickle urchin
imagine if blocking prevented nec-stacks
old zephyr
we would get the nerfbat ASAp
short vale
@primal crypt gizmo? Not spark?
primal crypt
I parried a 20th stack last night lol
old zephyr
GIZMO all the way
primal crypt
Dropped it like a champion
short vale
🤔 I've been so wrong
primal crypt
Spark is good too, but I feel more value out of gizmo
wary gyro
I love scaring my healers during necrotic
fresh valley
i hate when i kite away, and i shockwave just a smidge too early on the one mob charging at me. #feelsbadman
fickle urchin
isnt RNG the only one that doesnt cc break?
primal crypt
Yup
old zephyr
but who does CC though?
primal crypt
I do
old zephyr
Oo
fickle urchin
me too lol
primal crypt
Elites vs non elites
For bursting/necrotic/sanguine
Bolstering
Treat the elites like infested
fresh valley
does taking 2x DC help with skittish this week?
old zephyr
maybe on some weeks
old zephyr
right this way okay
I usually see small D player CC a mon in a pack of 3 and I'm like whut?
how about i charge it and take another pack on top
let's have some respect for ourselves and not do half pulls
primal crypt
Gotta go big brain
old zephyr
Sadly I haven't manage tofind a regular team yet, so Mostly PUGs
12-13 ar good,
below is people that don't know how to play, above is people that think they're better than everyone
In PUGs
torn gust
Why is prot actually so good this patch compared to bottom last patch?
old zephyr
we can block rocks
fickle urchin
I do 9-11s because I m dps and that means the competition for pug spots is real.
old zephyr
once yo get past that 1K Io it's much easier to find groups
dense flame
Cause we spank reaping 
old zephyr
what class are you?
old zephyr
maybe they have a prot and don't wan an extra warrior
I do decline a lot of DPS warrior myself because I have the utility they bring
we already did crazy DPS last season
fickle urchin
💔
old zephyr
main thing that has changed is that we are not getting destroyed by random crap anymore (ranged attacks) and people have figured that Prot DPS is better utility than what a DK can bring
old zephyr
MC the undead, justv pull it and kill it with the pack
Mass grab, well the Rdruid can do it
crazy tank DPS ? only warrior can bring
fickle urchin
i just tell myself that the guy who declines me from an 8 is looking for a carry and a bad.
as i cry
old zephyr
reflect shit, only warrior can do
self healing.
Bitch I don't take damage in the first place
I don't log myDUngeons but in raid my armor/shield does 2healers worth of HPS
fickle urchin
fury is actually really good on necrotic weeks, because huge snare
old zephyr
It's good, but a lot of other Class can do better
short vale
Others do it better @alx
old zephyr
Frost mage or Assasinate do better slows
fickle urchin
snares can get too bad on sanguine.
old zephyr
monk have rop
primal crypt
Warrior is unmatched on explosive weeks
old zephyr
boomy have trees/typhoon
Shamelem have earth/whatevertatbumpnameis
primal crypt
Fury/prot
primal crypt
That's about it, every other week, you dont need a dps warrior
fickle urchin
how does that work btw, do any prot abilties hit explosive and soemthing else? or is it all single target for the explosive totems?
fresh valley
i'm not gonna lie. i'm glad prot war are fotm. it's kinda nice every once in a while
primal crypt
Slam them, devastate them
old zephyr
shield slam OS explosives, and you get free victory rush
fickle urchin
ST then
old zephyr
devastate plsu the Deep wound dot OS them as well
and you get that sweet 20% heal for each one you destroy
fickle urchin
like on last boss UR
old zephyr
IF MDI happens to be explosive I woulnd't be surprised to se a no heal team
short vale
Explo weeks add couple k's to my overall hps in 15+ kets lol
fresh valley
can ret's dispel?
old zephyr
Bring a Ret for Word of Glory (you'll need it for some mechanics), a SP for dispells, rogue and bommy
no heal team
cheese all the things
sand egret
you'll still need a dispel tbh
old zephyr
some mechanics require you to have dispell yeah
but Warlock is good to me, epecially with the healstones
fresh valley
so lock, ret, prot war, rogue, boomy
old zephyr
kinda
sand egret
i think ele shaman would work better than boomie
a) you get big boi lust
and b) earth ele trivializes reaping
old zephyr
trees will help soak a lot of damage on a lot of pulls
sand egret
eh, that's what dps is for
sand egret
- pop AG every 2 min
fresh valley
go all boomy/ele, no tank no heals. ezpz
dense flame
I wish I could have the “thunder cat” phrase spam every time I pop avatar
old zephyr
my only question is, what happens on shrine last boss?
dense flame
Thunder thunder thunder
old zephyr
yeah
azure dock
quick question, secondary stats, or this passive?
old zephyr
but does a DD get the buff?
sand egret
i thought it just prioritizes healers
oblique garnet
nope
old zephyr
SPlitter is crap
oblique garnet
it just doesnt happen without healer anymore
sand egret
ahh, well either way you coulda dispelled it anyway
azure dock
does about 130-200k depending on the boss
old zephyr
you keep it for the crazy damages
ebon hound
@azure dock Stats 100%
sand egret
ahh well, yeah the damage is prob moot running 4 dps and prot haha
azure dock
ok thanks
west kayak
@azure dock The mace hands down. No contest.
sand egret
yeah take the mace
dps is = but you get stats and a socket. The proc on the splitter is not very strong
old zephyr
BTW yam, what do you mean when you say "we'll wing it" are you playing paladin?
@primal crypt
oblique garnet
Yeah see im actually part of yamorinos team rn
oblique garnet
2 prot warriors 2 rogues and holy pally going dps
modern brook
😮
old zephyr
have any logs/raider link of runs?
oblique garnet
It was a joke
old zephyr
that woud have been grand though
oblique garnet
But theoretically we could run it in tournament realm
old zephyr
My current go to is Rdruid, Orogue, HDH, Pwar and either BDruid or ESham
old zephyr
HDH sry
old zephyr
brainfreezed
oblique garnet
@hollow thorn is game used to be hard ded or? They are recruiting a tank
Dont be sleeping on resto shammy
They are actually blasting
old zephyr
but Rdruid is so strong
modern brook
Resto shammy is dope af
old zephyr
what make Rsham that dope?
oblique garnet
Not my ss
old zephyr
Hm okay
modern brook
Its so dark :^(
molten hawk
how good is tradewinds compared to iron fortress for m+?
oblique garnet
Not better than if
molten hawk
ty
hollow thorn
@oblique garnet dont think they are dead, but i wouldnt join the guild if i was u
old zephyr
Dude has 1k7 io, never ran TD lol
oblique garnet
Who? Zaeliax?
old zephyr
yeah
oblique garnet
Yeah
He didnt know most of the dungeon mechanics either when they were doing 16s etc
sick sentinel
turns out
old zephyr
@primal crypt what doe sthat mean
sick sentinel
you don't know what "wing it" means?
sick sentinel
🤦
old zephyr
isn't the pal like winging almost on CD?
primal crypt
Yeah, we kinda skimmed over that
primal crypt
Yeah, I just woke up from my nap
old zephyr
how about I do 120% healing to all the group with my crazy ST healing spells
primal crypt
So kind of disoriented
oblique garnet
Its really not that hard
lusty grotto
well warriors cant heal others
so holy paladin fills that void
plate wearer > check
slightly more effeminate > check
can heal others in party > check
yep it fills every checkmark in my book
wary gyro
Can get syringe and be bullied into trading it > check
lusty grotto
syringe, but why
modern brook
It has a book :^)
exotic spoke
I don’t know what you’re talking about. My space goat heals for between 100k and 200k ..... (ignore the fact that I use in combined with last stand and it’s only once every three minutes)
lusty grotto
speak for yourself, i have the mage tower awesomeness 2 hander hammer of heal your face or die in a fire
wary gyro
Oh I thought this was a different channel ignore me
exotic spoke
Nim, part of it could be I’ve only ever played a warrior. Until legion I never had a second character st max level. And the first alt I had at max level was
A goblin warrior
exotic spoke
Never here. Always had something to do. And the warrior leveling early in vanilla scarred me I think
lusty grotto
though honestly... my love for hpal only started at the end of legion
oblique garnet
I dont want to play warlock
lusty grotto
before that, my rdruid was my #1 alt
oblique garnet
Not like this
exotic spoke
Don’t switch to the purple bars
lusty grotto
rip late
dense flame
At least destro is fun
exotic spoke
I’m... im sorry
lusty grotto
🤷 locks
lusty grotto
its that time again kids
exotic spoke
Loot roulette?
daring marlin
lusty grotto
what will it be this week on chest, make your bets
stark sage
🎲
oblique garnet
I have like 5 guilds asking me if i could go back to warlock
I just want to play warrior
FeelsBadMan
exotic spoke
I’ll say shield
lusty grotto
well what do you know
exotic spoke
Cause I’m an optimist
lusty grotto
i actually got an upgrade
exotic spoke
What was it?
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
siege key, son of a bitch
modern brook
im looking forward to my 4th belt this season
gusty glade
guys, Bonded Souls (first) or Bloodsport (second) for m+ tanking?
exotic spoke
when I open my cache in 8 hours I’m hoping to not get another trinket
gusty glade
@lusty grotto sure bout that? i mean bounded souls seems like a cool haste proc
lusty grotto
so?
gusty glade
and bloodsport seems kinda meh
modern brook
Bloodsport is sick af
gusty glade
kk thx
lusty grotto
i feel like i should make my avatar a pic of something along the lines of "STOP OVERVALUING HASTE"
and then be like "hey did you see my avatar?"
modern brook
In Outlaw discord theres a guy whos name is just "dont reroll during BF"
lusty grotto
i should remember that on my ally rogue lol
modern brook
I just dont get how every resource says Ilvl > haste > x
and people are still dropping ilvl for haste?
glossy wolf
haste still better than vers?
modern brook
Ilvl is better than vers
lusty grotto
haste is better than vers, yes, slightly
modern brook
also
glossy wolf
for enchants and such
lusty grotto
that is correct
modern brook
modern brook
dming because sal's online
quartz pond
OMEGA
lusty grotto
vanish
dim blaze
Both of our tanks decided to tank a break til 8.2 (one being our RL). We do heroic and a bit of mythic currently. I’m going to be our main tank and have tanked once through on heroic. Can somebody jog my memory on CoL heroic burn strat? Do you tank the adds right on the boss and cleave them down or move them away and ignore them? Do you tank swap at all?
dim blaze
We have been running burn strat before just fine
Just can’t remember where the tanks had the adds
Ok so cleave down - do you tank swap?
ivory light
If I disenchanted a 415 Az piece I just bought, can I then restore the Az piece I scrapped to buy this one? Lmao
vocal elm
https://gyazo.com/8e9810c63f2897a08a7a77f9867126d2 Which should I be using? Diamond and Ancient Tuskar?
ivory light
Not letting me restore old one without TR, thinking that's why.
oblique garnet
yeah diamond and tuskar
modern brook
I actually dont know if you can drop stacks in heroic
ITs p ez in mythic cause of the channel
vocal elm
Yeah got really lucky on my first Turtle Emissary after ilvl bump
hushed sand
ilvl > all on items ? Have 415 legs Crit/Haste and got 400 socket haste versa legs for compare
lusty grotto
yes
hushed sand
415 still better ?
lusty grotto
on all items except rings/trinkets
hushed sand
gotcha
lusty grotto
and arguably cloaks
hushed sand
ty dude
Best MM+ trinkets ? Got rezan 400 and Howler 400
And vial 400 socket and gore 400 socket
hushed sand
even for pure tanking ?
lusty grotto
for everything
hushed sand
Vial can be used on the same gcd as avatar ?
lusty grotto
oh you mean the trinkets
modern brook
yeah
lusty grotto
well our strongest is diamond off oppulence
modern brook
it roughly lines up with every 2nd
lusty grotto
so for pure tanking, get one of those ASAP
hushed sand
yeah, depend on rage management
dim blaze
You would use this for M+ right over other trinkets?
dim blaze
Thought so
oblique garnet
Ayxek use rezan and gore
lusty grotto
and like i said yesterday
dim blaze
Got it last night haven’t used it yet but looking forward to it
modern brook
Over vial w/ gem Late?
oblique garnet
yes
hushed sand
@oblique garnet even if vial gem ?
hushed sand
Rezan and gore because no use ?
honest frigate
I would kill for that anchor
oblique garnet
You really dont have that much down time where youre not pulling in m+
if you do theres something going horribly wrong
lusty grotto
yup
vocal elm
Azerite gear is always ilvl > Traits except first Thunder Clap trait?
lusty grotto
yes
hushed sand
30% uptime rezan on a 17 AD
brave mauve
Thanks for nothing, blizz.
hushed sand
Its an OK thinket
oblique garnet
got 420 sporepods
modern brook
420? fungus? 👀
oblique garnet
yes
modern brook
🔥
exotic spoke
Jesus
hushed sand
Does it hit like crazy ?
oblique garnet
no
hushed sand
Heal ?
oblique garnet
it really doesnt
lusty grotto
it hits like ass
hushed sand
Got 415 ToS Fang 😄 Im a happy little guy
hushed sand
Broken trinket
modern brook
someone was trying to convince the chat that fang wasnt bad
He made good points, but i still dont believe him
lusty grotto
its still fucking bad
hushed sand
Did he succeed
lusty grotto
i wanna destroy it asap
exotic spoke
Hey that expulsom is worth like 2k on my server
oblique garnet
^
hushed sand
So i rezan/alchemy
primal crypt
Plus that str proc gives more dmg + bigger ip
fresh valley
i'm using alch/vial. been thinking about going vial/butchers block
last mason
which would u guys replace with a 400 rezans, a 390 vial or 400 block
lusty grotto
wtf why
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel Thanks for the tip of setting wowprogress to looking for guild
primal crypt
@oblique garnet lock incoming lol
lusty grotto
rofl
oblique garnet
nah my warlock will sit out this tier
im not playing warlock until demo gets nerfed
last mason
whats more valuble for crit, a 390 syringe or 400 block
oblique garnet
i refuse to play the zookeeper
wary gyro
I would say the block
last mason
ty, replacing one with a 400 eye
sand egret
double jump that's what DH's do right?
sand egret
is there a difference?
tepid dagger
Bursting going to be anoying with pugs this week
sand egret
busting is always anti-pug
tepid dagger
and I might have to stop TC to avoid 5+ stacks 😦
umbral forge
no
tepid dagger
Meh, sounds like a healer problem
sand egret
it's incredibly hard for a DH to not press Eye Beam.
umbral forge
yes
last mason
do you get residuum if u de engi goggles
tepid dagger
no
oblique garnet
never stop clapping
sand egret
i doubt it
primal crypt
Never stop clapping
oblique garnet
Prot ABC = Always Be Clapping
brisk ferry
no you just get your Bobsalami points back
primal crypt
Ever
umbral forge
Its Skittish and Bursting so just justify the clapping with skittish :GWomoRaphiOhMy:
sand egret
well our clapping is the baseline dps....it's up to those DerPS to burst one target over the other 😃
old zephyr
Clap = rage
Rage = live longer
lusty grotto
🤷
open bluff
oblique garnet
@primal crypt you wanna try some spicy 5 prot comps on TR ?
lusty grotto
shush its called reaping yes
last mason
is it worth taking never surrender in ml for the end
primal crypt
@oblique garnet hell yes
last mason
or bolster still
last mason
idk saw nerf do it
primal crypt
5 prot smash
last mason
well he switched to it
sick sentinel
Fucking NEEEEEEERF
lusty grotto
you people getting fucking meme'd by these dudes\
oblique garnet
never surrender is actually good for the last 2 bosses
you can do it by hearthing out and getting summoned back in
lusty grotto
or you can just reflect like you should be doing
oblique garnet
nim
sick sentinel
Ah the good ol, waste 5-30 seconds
lusty grotto
3rd just reflect once she shoots fucking azerite all over
oblique garnet
she also melees
lusty grotto
every time
sick sentinel
The 4th boss might as well have an extra tryan boss because how much he hits
lusty grotto
can you tell me what ability of ours helps against melee Late
oblique garnet
ignore pain
lusty grotto
is it called shield block
oblique garnet
they are
lusty grotto
checking logs
lusty grotto
searing reagent
oblique garnet
fire damage
primal crypt
3rd and 4th boss you can forget about block
oblique garnet
^
the only reason you would use block in either of the bosses is for drill smash on last
or to increase your ss damage
sick sentinel
What adds
lusty grotto
last boss adds
sick sentinel
What
Adds
stoic pilot
The two ranged adds during intermission
sick sentinel
I must be lucky then
lusty grotto
eh
stoic pilot
can you block Gatling gun? o.o
oblique garnet
you can
primal crypt
Tank shredder
stoic pilot
Nah was just curious
opal fiber
so i have a 410vial, 385rezan w/socket, and 415alch trink....which two should i be rockin?
oblique garnet
410 and 415
opal fiber
cool. just got the vial today! i never get trinkets in weekly chest lol
primal crypt
I want a better vial :(
opal fiber
is the shield trink from bod good for prog? i got it at 400 and have been using it, but it seems kinda meh after that first 45k is absorbed on the first hit or two...
primal crypt
@opal fiber it's pretty dang good for m+
oblique garnet
@opal fiber the diamond is actually best trinket out from the raid or any content
exotic spoke
Yeah it’s pretty nice
opal fiber
so if that's in the mix, what other should i use...? the 410vial or 415 alch trinket?
lusty grotto
alch
primal crypt
Still the vial/alche
supple path
Every time you get a Merektha's fang from your weekly m+ chest, an angel loses its wings. Ugh.
primal crypt
F
supple path
I'm guessing even at 415 it can't compete against 400 trinkets like rezan's, block, etc.
primal crypt
It can and does
oblique garnet
@opal fiber alch and prism
supple path
Think it's better for m+ than a 400 gore-crusted block w/avoidance, then?
sand egret
then i'm just super lucky haha
wary gyro
I saw someone get it last week when I was running on an alt
primal crypt
I think it's prot only
supple path
So it's a channel, and does about ~40k damage AE over its duration at 415
sand egret
target cap?
supple path
With the channel being sped up by haste.
I pulled ~6 raptors there to test and it hit 'em all at least, so dunno
lusty grotto
meh
sand egret
whats the base channel duration?
supple path
2.5s with 20% haste