Healing
#protection
oblique garnet
^
modern brook
destroyed; tbh
oblique garnet
They have high constant healing output with low cost
primal crypt
They're great for death runs
limpid wadi
Like every other heal spec in the game and bdks :p
primal crypt
Bdk lol
modern brook
^
oblique garnet
They are obviously not the greatest for m+
limpid wadi
Okay they are better in m+ than holy priests
narrow abyss
I actually kinda donโt mind holy priests
primal crypt
If they're good lol
narrow abyss
I just donโt like disc
modern brook
but one of my favorite healers is a disc
primal crypt
Any healer is good
narrow abyss
Itโs such a crap shoot whether you get a zero or hero with disc
primal crypt
If they're good
heavy chasm
Disc is great outside of greivious
primal crypt
Disc on grievous
oblique garnet
Also i really like raid healing with shaman not so much m+
primal crypt
Yikes
modern brook
I dont think its arguable that Resto Druid or Mist weaver is BIS for keys
primal crypt
Hey
modern brook
But that doesnt make other options bad
narrow abyss
Yeah my healer just finished leveling a resto shaman for raid
primal crypt
Don't forget paladin
narrow abyss
Get to gear him up in 10s
oblique garnet
Reato is better than mw
narrow abyss
๐ญ
oblique garnet
Paladins are good again too
heavy chasm
I dont run with my normal priest if he wont swap holy for greivious though
primal crypt
Paladin is top tier
sick sentinel
I have a phobia of disc priests since the first week of buffed Bursting
heavy chasm
I love playing my holy pally for keys
modern brook
the spec is just not equiped for it
primal crypt
Especially with bleeds the way they are now
limpid wadi
I like druids
modern brook
I was levelinga holy paladin
narrow abyss
My healer hatesss his Druid now. Makes me sad
modern brook
then i realized iw as leveling it soley so i could DPS as it lol
primal crypt
Grievous doesn't exist for paladin
modern brook
healing makes me physically mad
limpid wadi
My healer ONLY plays holy priest :/
slow nimbus
Paladins can't group health though. Paladins in witch fight during grievous week in waycrest
Oh god
primal crypt
Preventable damage
modern brook
I'm in dungeons at like 60~ watching DKs try and tank without marrowrending
heavy chasm
I enjoy healing. But I cant not tank because no one else does
limpid wadi
^
primal crypt
@slow nimbus witches are a non issue for paladin
modern brook
Do u know how many FotM warrior rerolls i have to wisper saying "please press shield block"
heavy chasm
And i cant stand waiting 25 minutes for some rando tank
primal crypt
Prob one of the best healers for witches
narrow abyss
Dude are there a ton of baby prot warriors now
primal crypt
Yeah, bb warrs everywhere
heavy chasm
What's gnettles?
sick sentinel
warriors that thinks IP > SB... ugh
modern brook
cant u just bop nettles?
heavy chasm
It depends on wo gets it
modern brook
I like holy pal cause its utility fits ona healer
all those blessings ๐ฎ
TRYNA BLESS UP FAM?
narrow abyss
I like rop way too much
oblique garnet
Hpala is not an underdog tho
modern brook
Rsham sucks donkeys during quaking
primal crypt
Hpala has always been one of the top
modern brook
I will say that
oblique garnet
Avenging crusader is the best cd in the game change my mind
primal crypt
Kek
primal crypt
Dude, my paladin bust out 30k the other day
heavy chasm
Em I rite
sick sentinel
monks are baes in m+
primal crypt
Everyone in the group thought she was trolling as ret
oblique garnet
Only acceptable monks in s2 are windwalkers
modern brook
Was she holy or prot yam?
primal crypt
Holy
modern brook
Cool finishing my leveling
Thats my dream tbh
shit on every DPS while not being in DPS spec
heavy chasm
Oh damn
primal crypt
Like, our bars on the meters were so small
modern brook
@oblique garnet @primal crypt have u guys done Freehold this week yet?
oblique garnet
Yes
primal crypt
Mind you people were pulling close to 30k
heavy chasm
My buddy was playing holy on shrine. Was like it's all good. Transitions after add dies. Dps didnt interior ducking dead
primal crypt
Not I
modern brook
Are you triple pulling those front packs?
sick sentinel
I remember holy pallies being busted for dps in Legion
oblique garnet
Nope
primal crypt
My group still skips
oblique garnet
Waste of time
modern brook
I wanted to try grabbing all 3 and lust cause we dont need it elsewhere
primal crypt
Enforcers are the worst
modern brook
got omega ruined
primal crypt
Low dmg uptime
oblique garnet
Its not efficient to do so this week
Any other week its easy
But this week kills the man
modern brook
is it necrotic or fort that kills it?
heavy chasm
I dont think I'll holy will ever be the same as legion. I rocked 50 crit for the guaranteed hsock crit
modern brook
cause i feel like its necrotic
oblique garnet
Necrotic and sanguine
modern brook
thats fair i guess
oblique garnet
Like the only way its efficient to kill those is to pull all 3 together
modern brook
I ruined an 11 key on that try
primal crypt
You could get thrown over the sang to an idiot on the other side
oblique garnet
Which you cant do this week
modern brook
we abandoned it and did it on a 10
it being not that pull and just chested the dungeon
usually I just stealth past them to first boss room
primal crypt
I find its just easier to skip the front
modern brook
But I wanted ez reaps
modern brook
nother side bar: with infested gone
do you guys always take a certain side? to spawn firs tboss
primal crypt
Depends on the week
oblique garnet
You get easy reapings if you skip the first packs by skipping all the adds after bridge
primal crypt
Like teeming
oblique garnet
Always upstairs
modern brook
I've been doing it based on Teemin %
specifically since until recently my actual key group was only like 3 people and we'd constnatly have a changing roster (read: pugs) so i had to make routes before each run lol
primal crypt
Yeah, the only difference in mdt is with rog, without rog
Everything else is meh
Without rog you just plow through everything
modern brook
I was running Guild 10s and i got stuck tanking TD 10
without a rogue; blacksmith; or scribe
narrow abyss
๐คฎ
oblique garnet
Reroll into bs
primal crypt
Or just make rog friends
modern brook
and we still only missed timer cause cannon man killed 3 allies
I am the rog friend yam lol
modern brook
We've been recruiting more; but something about the class has attracted people that dont mesh well so its been hard
You double rogue right?
heavy chasm
I gotta work on my rogue
I see so few of em
And the like two in my guild are already tied in wit other groups. Feels bad man
modern brook
rogues and warlocks man IDK they're the most parse senstive ppl i know
heavy chasm
Your not wrong
My raid team has 4 fucking locks too
So rip mechanics cuz mah parse
modern brook
how did you die to the room filling with fire -> i was finishing my cast :^)
modern brook
I think all triple DPS specs are super parse sensative but its so much easier to hide it with shimmer and my spec is a braindead joke
the latter being hunters, ofc
heavy chasm
I hate parse chasing/chasers. Atleast during prog
Like use your logic. You parse fucking zero if your dead
If you beat yourself week to week that all that matters
modern brook
What triggers me is when ppl make jokes about mechanics; oh just dodge the frog lol ezpzlmnsqzy lootpinata
and then we spend 3 hours to those people getting hit by the fucking frog
modern brook
ina 3 hour prog raid; I'd say maybe 4-5 wipes are directly my fault
heavy chasm
Dont drop the fire in melee on rastakhan. Melee dps drops it on my co tank
Blames ranged
modern brook
lol
heavy chasm
Waaat
modern brook
killing adds is hard
๐
people werent kicking for the first like 10
that was a bad night
But we have it to thank for SRing grips
heavy chasm
We had a really rough one Tuesday
My co tank and I were doing not so great. But he was trying to d some weird cheese on mythic jadefire
And wouldn't just t swap
Like flat out just wouldn't, so j mean go with his wonky stuff or melt to two bosses ๐ค
narrow abyss
One of my takeaways for these kick heavy fights is itโs obvious who M+ a lot and who donโt
modern brook
Our guilds roster is filling out so we can start like actually enforce the whole if ur causing us to wipe every time please sit out until you want to play the game thing
which is super nice
modern brook
I wont lie
heavy chasm
Like when we were figuring out conclave we 3tanked it
Just to trivialize the shit out of it
modern brook
I definitely live for moments where my cotank dies at ~15-20% and I'm just like
heavy chasm
But ofc that other guys parse will be ass
modern brook
nows my time
heavy chasm
Yeah I mean they feel fantastic
modern brook
LaStStAnD
we tried the 3 trank thing for conclave
IDK if the 3rd tank was super uncomfortable with the fight or what
but it did not work out
heavy chasm
How
modern brook
the taunt swaps were constantly all over the place
modern brook
Oh I get it lothar
modern brook
I dont like 3 tanking the fight anyways
heavy chasm
Like we had a boom druid go bear for one
modern brook
I'm dwarf in there; so i can cheese both paku and kimbul p ez
modern brook
modern brook
`` isnt code its format this is a code block dude
heavy chasm
Since we used to roll with a prot pal
modern brook
` is also a lot easier to type that this
heavy chasm
But now I'm rolling with a dk
undone sun
they're both considered codeblocks
modern brook
maybe in bad programmer land
modern brook
discord is written by big dumb liberal arts majors ๐คท
mortal carbon
wait so this does not work?
'derp
derp'
modern brook
#discordformatting :^)
I just use this for emphasis because its easier than this this this and this
undone sun
but uglier ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
limpid wadi
this is the best
modern brook
its definitely more aggressive than the other options
primal crypt
Has anyone seen the wq trinkets titanforge ridiculous numbers yet?
limpid wadi
No```Yikes.
narrow abyss
Someone linked a 415
primal crypt
Oh wow
narrow abyss
The on use mastery one
modern brook
๐ฎ thats my dream dude
narrow abyss
Pearl divers
primal crypt
The dream
narrow abyss
I think
modern brook
๐ฎ
primal crypt
LYING
oblique garnet
Nolies
primal crypt
You did not get a 425 feather
limpid wadi
Photoshoped
modern brook
He better be lying
limpid wadi
Link armory!
modern brook
i can be happy for u getting a 400 feather
405 is pushing it
410+ and ur just a dick
oblique garnet
But if i want to use it i have to drop my prism
oblique garnet
I want sliver on my shaman
primal crypt
No
oblique garnet
Yes
primal crypt
You want sliver on druid
oblique garnet
Im a shaman main now
primal crypt
Dont lie
oblique garnet
Not even kidding
I dont have a raiding guild atm on warrior
So im just doing casual hc on my shammy
primal crypt
You can gear your druid with my paladin :)
oblique garnet
On NA?
primal crypt
Ye
oblique garnet
Hmm
modern brook
how do u not have a guild
primal crypt
Does shield of righteous work exactly like shield block?
undone sun
no
oblique garnet
Because i wanna raid as tank
primal crypt
That shit feels super weak compaired to our block
oblique garnet
Because it is
undone sun
Slams enemies in front of you with your shield, causing [ 33% of Attack Power ] Holy damage, and increasing your Armor by [ 150% of Strength ] for 4.5 sec.
modern brook
SotR is a fat armor inc
undone sun
block is a chance for paladins
modern brook
Slams enemies in front of you with your shield
primal crypt
That's a yikes from me dog
modern brook
Look at these fucking wannabies
oblique garnet
But yeah bullfango i cant get into raiding guilds since people rather keep a mediocre tank then take a chance with someone new
wooden radish
AE and doesn't require resources/target
undone sun
^
primal crypt
But you mitigation is also your heavy offense ๐ค
undone sun
it's p good
modern brook
dont pallys know that Feet are for AoE shields are for priority?
primal crypt
Sorry, didnt mean to bring paladin garbo in here
modern brook
THats too bad late
primal crypt
@sand egret would have a field day
oblique garnet
Its all good thats what youre playing in mdi right yamo?
wooden radish
its not the highest damaging ability tho ๐คท
primal crypt
Nooooo lol
undone sun
last thing i played in bfa was a paladin ๐
primal crypt
Prot warrior or bust
primal crypt
My group actually asked if I wanted to play my dk for necrotic week
sand egret
๐
oblique garnet
Lmao why
primal crypt
I lol'd so hard
astral crystal
lel
primal crypt
They still think dk is top
modern brook
DK on necrotic ๐
primal crypt
Didnt know about necro change
undone sun
lol
oblique garnet
Tbf
sand egret
I knew it.
oblique garnet
Alot of people dont know about necrotic change
oblique garnet
Its physical
modern brook
Oh
primal crypt
Physical vs magic
modern brook
yeah i knew that
primal crypt
Slipped by a lot of people
modern brook
Is the scaling dot new? I didnt know about that till yesterday
primal crypt
I dont think so
sick sentinel
late do what yamo did
modern brook
๐คท im fucking garbage then
sick sentinel
join as dps
modern brook
@sick sentinel but then u have to play arms or fury ๐ฌ
sick sentinel
undercover
primal crypt
Can only play fury
sick sentinel
fury is awesome dude
primal crypt
Arms in the same gear is 3-5k behind
narrow abyss
After playing dh I canโt stand fury ๐ข
modern brook
lol poor arms
primal crypt
At least my sims they were
narrow abyss
Ruined it for me
primal crypt
Huge disparity
sand egret
there's only one warrior dps spec
sand egret
not sure why you guys talking about the DH dps specs in here
primal crypt
oblique garnet
@sick sentinel i dont have logs as fury only as prot
sick sentinel
F
sand egret
fury warriors are just confused DHs going through a crisis
sand egret
have you tried not being bad?
oblique garnet
yes
primal crypt
Is that mythic parses?
neon tangle
@oblique garnet I did progression thru heroic while super tired and got a couple blue parses
Rip my average
sand egret
@modern brook super late from yesterday, but I remembered that the tmog I was referring to was actually a Cata pvp one, the Cata Gladiator's one (for the only bdk tmog I use)
neon tangle
I rock the starter gear
oblique garnet
Time to push some keys
oblique garnet
What type of work is it?
sand egret
manage QA of a major title?
modern brook
blades job is to chill in discord
undone sun
same
sand egret
thyme's trying to steal my jorb
undone sun
i had it long before you
sand egret
hah well then shit, feel like HR shoulda told me that sometime in the past 5 years....
"who's this Thyme guy?"
"Oh yeah....btw....we're going to need you to return that stapler...."
fresh valley
i'm hoping to push my first 15 of the season tonight ๐
oblique garnet
@sand egret Oh shit pogchamp i can qualify for greencard with a job like that
dusky lodge
Trying to learn how to parse prot logos any good resources or tips for starting? There good dtps or uptime benchmarks to look at or is there another metric I should look at sorry if I missed something obvious
rapid tide
Always felt like one of the easiest metrics to look at that is a good general indicator is Rage generated.
Compared to top logs with similar fight length basically.
sand egret
practical uptime on blocks is also good to check
rapid tide
Definitely
sand egret
or for like overlaps (LS + SB)
modern brook
^
rapid tide
Comparing ehrps to top logs can sometimes be valuable but variance is to be expected.
modern brook
Effective uptime on Block is the big killer for most ppl
rapid tide
Like you are not automatically a terrible prot for requiring 4k more hps compared to top logs.
modern brook
Maximum DS usage
Maximum Avatar usage
Overcapped Rage should be 0
uhhh
Reflects when relevant, i guess?
dusky lodge
Ty ty just dont want to judge off the wrong things
modern brook
I mostly check for blockuptime, SB+LS overlap; and overcapped rage
those are the I'm wiping the group because im playing my spec wrong mistakes
rapid tide
I defintely also check for the generated rage, so many people generating like half of what's possible in many cases.
And that is a loooot of cd uptime you are losing out on and IP uptime.
dusky lodge
Duly noted ty
modern brook
@primal crypt hows your raiding experience so far?
primal crypt
Mythic bosses hit pretty hard
Just like tyrannical
But ive only tanked mythic once and that was on Tuesday
Pretty fun as dps
So far so good as prot too
I really like BoD
modern brook
how far did Tuesday take you?
I also liek BoD
very engaging tank fights, on the whole
primal crypt
We got hard stuck on opulence lol
wary gyro
BoD is much more interesting to tank than uldir was
primal crypt
Killed him last week, but had raiders missing
Had to bring in the back up people for opulence
People couldnt get used to the mechanics fast enough
So opulence again tonight and hopefully conclave
modern brook
:^) good luck
primal crypt
We'll need it lol
Hopefully tonight, people get their heads out their butts
Our druid healer killed himself even on tuesday
Went bear form and accidentally taunted the boss
Got one shot
old zephyr
I don't do mythic yet but in HM we don't even bother tankswapping it, ahhh warriors
also avatar the adds feels so seet
primal crypt
Yeah, so far the only one ive worried about has been grong
Because ive never done the tank combo
narrow abyss
Working on that now. Not bad
narrow abyss
My guild stinks with kicks
I actually like the fights from tank perspective
This tier itโs fun
primal crypt
@modern brook should have heard our raid leader ask the same thing, except it was in all caps
modern brook
I just feel like thats 2 distinct button presses over the course of 3 seconds
I keep my form buttons on modifiers so maybe thats why i think its weird
fresh valley
taunt and rebirth have the same icon?
junior igloo
Option 1: Went bear form by accident, pressed a button that's wrath in caster form, but taunt in bear form.
Option 2: Went bear form on purpose, fat fingered taunt button
fresh valley
IDK if you're going bear form and taunting in 2019 mythic prog
modern brook
hahaha good point
primal crypt
Definitely bear on purpose fat finger
Had the gold on himself
So he was sitting in bear
Came back in and taunted himself to death
undone sun
๐
modern brook
god tier
primal crypt
You could hear the sighs from a mile away
wary gyro
This is why when I'm not tanking things like taunt are on keybinds that I cant press accidentally
fresh valley
my druid action bars are so jacked up from just having everying done through vuhdo :/
and constantly swapping back and forther between pvp macro's and pve crap
and shapeshifts, and talent selections
oh and stealth action bars
so many action bars
what do you guys think of dratnos' routes?
primal crypt
They're ok
But it's become useless because I dont run the same comp
His is still built around bdk
Iirc
sick sentinel
I prefer doing my own routes
fresh valley
yeah. i use them as a baseline and modify for my group comp
sly plume
is the eternal alchemist stone worth it for prot?
primal crypt
yes
sick sentinel
It's good
inland mesa
Yamorino do you have youtube/vods of your routes, you make me jealous you have a real consistent team that runs D:
and hopefully we get mekkatorque tonight on mythic, got it to 18% in about a nights worth of pulls
primal crypt
I dont yet :(
covert latch
trying to build a team currently, but no one can settle on what they want to play ๐ฆ
primal crypt
Maybe later this weekend?
We're planning out stuff for mdi next week
So it's a little hectic
I havent really streaned either
Soz
inland mesa
yeah, I have a team, and we're lucky to have schedules align to run like 3 keys a week, it's really disappointing
primal crypt
Yeah, we're not particularly amazing or anything
Just really consistent
Funny enough, they were all pugs
inland mesa
yeah this group could be good we just don't play enough together
primal crypt
And we just kind of fell in line with each other
inland mesa
we claimed sun/mon would be great, and we haven't run on both nights a single week so far lol
primal crypt
Yeah, that's way too late
At least in the week
Thats when we usually have sale runs
So after raid we run at least two
inland mesa
well we raid mostly tues-thurs
primal crypt
Then I have to sleep lol
inland mesa
ah we don't end until midnight so doing two is crazy late when I have work at 8
primal crypt
Yeah we raid tues/thurs until 10-11pm
Like last night
We were going to do 1 key
But accidently two chested it
Got a higher key and I got in my feelings and said lets run another
Ended up sleeping at 130...
primal crypt
2 chested the 17 tol dagor
Got a 19 temple, scuffed it on first boss because I got greedy
Chested the downgrade 18
And got the 19 temple back for tonight
I dont trust myself with those spell reflects, I jebait myself so hard
lusty grotto
lol
honestly i just use it when he turns to face someone else
cause Tofu said if he targets you, it doesn't work
but actually reflecting it is glorious
sick sentinel
If you reflect all strikes it's like 40%, right?
sick sentinel
That's what somebody in guild chat said
lusty grotto
i mean rofl
sick sentinel
The risk is worth the reward in tyrr for sure
lusty grotto
it was hilarious when i first tested it, my heals bro went like "wtf how does he have like 30% less hp than the other"
sick sentinel
Not sure if worth in fort
sand egret
no risk no reward
lusty grotto
reminded me about ye olde TBC heroics
reflecting that one nuke that did massive dmg
stark apex
Anyone have a decent video to link for prot tanking ?
lusty grotto
i believe Griff's might still be relevant
slightly out of date but the basics should be the same
let me see if i have a link
stark apex
Also any tips for kiting for grevious weeks? Thunderclaps 20% feels like nothing
sick sentinel
Trees, great frost mage, ring of peace, vortex
lusty grotto
@chilly brook @stark apex is requesting a link to your howtoplay video
sick sentinel
Typhoon
lusty grotto
shockwave -> leap
sick sentinel
Or intervene to friend
lusty grotto
slows on sanguine week yuck
bring your neighborhood friendly DH for another aoe stun
inland mesa
wait what, what are you reflecting on the first boss of sneks, the cyclone strike?
lusty grotto
yes
should be in the guide, i think i asked sense to put it up - but credit to Tofu and Guilford
inland mesa
my god, that may help my group that can't dodge it worth a damn, you just hit it and stand in front of where he's facing?
lusty grotto
uhhh that won't help your group
inland mesa
if it dies significantly faster
lusty grotto
well sure
you can't grab all the cyclones
at best 2 or 3
and its super risky
so i just do 1
if you get nuked by the other dude -> RIP you
so make sure the other guy is properly interrupted
inland mesa
ah true, but you can ranged interrupt that guy and reflect it
stark apex
Additionally do you guys play with combat text on? Hard to see when I ge a block otherwise
sick sentinel
Well it should not be hard to see
lusty grotto
i only have damage done default text
sick sentinel
Because all attacks should be blocked
lusty grotto
really no reason to see what you block or when you get a bock
you use SB -> its 100% chance to block
same with last stand
sick sentinel
The only reason you are not blocking
stark apex
For example if I have last stand on with bolster it doesnโt feel like Iโm not blocking anything
sick sentinel
Is that you have SW up
stark apex
Sorry it feels like Iโm not blocking anything with how much dmg Iโm taking *
lusty grotto
so look it up in logs maybe
pseudo spindle
Hello guys and srry for my english, i don't achieve to found the best azerite trait to my protection warrior. About surviviabilty on raid and on mm+, i don't care about dps traits stacking that's i've found on bloodmallet ^^
stark apex
390
pseudo spindle
allright thx @sick sentinel
lusty grotto
390 shield eh, shrug
stark apex
Other question - is there some sort of name plate set up that shows who is aggrod to what
lusty grotto
shouldn't be taking that much dmg
i dont use any of that lol
but hopefully someone here could help you out on that one
i just clap hard, losing agro doesn't really happen ๐
stark apex
May have felt awful cause I was running with a 385 new disc priest spamming shadowmend
But my +7 freehold felt terrible
lusty grotto
do you have logs?
stark apex
Even with only like 30% reduced healing
upper spoke
does iron fortress dmg stack?
silk mortar
Ye
lusty grotto
it does
upper spoke
ty
sand egret
Also remember that there is a mob type that fixates in FH
so, unless you got a Soothe/Stun, they'll look like you lost aggro on em
modern brook
that mob type is allied this week; also
for the record
not sure what we're talking about
sand egret
the blind rage doods?
modern brook
yeah
lusty grotto
๐ข
sand egret
I got a bunch of FH's last week
modern brook
I need to tank a waycrest :^(
lusty grotto
๐
modern brook
might wait till next week lol
sand egret
but this week
lusty grotto
yeah fuck waycrest this week
sand egret
that new Havoc weapon is callin mah name amirite
stark apex
Hang on trying to retrieve my log but itโs taking awhile
My ign is Thecashcab and it should be the only freehold 7
lusty grotto
i got a fucking shrine on chest
sand egret
haha ditto
lusty grotto
YIKES
grizzled steeple
11 FH here ๐ going to do it tonight
sand egret
I noped outta that one hard
modern brook
if ur pugging that 13 id like in on my rogue :^)
modern brook
good im not around tonight :^)
stark apex
Reee Warcraft logs is timing out
lusty grotto
though i dont know if hes 120 yet
stark apex
Sorry fam
lusty grotto
no rush
just do it whenever and tag
i would take blade
but he insists on that dirty bear
i insist on that awesome boomy
sand egret
O_O
lusty grotto
can do teamchip run tomorrow night
modern brook
balance is so OP compared to the other specs
harnass the power of the sun
be a cat
old night
sand egret
or be a kitty
lusty grotto
nice gz
sand egret
and be happy
lusty grotto
ITS BOOTS, NO F that
oblique garnet
Uhh
lusty grotto
teamchip key deplete
lusty grotto
๐ฎ
sand egret
he's like 116 or some shit
lusty grotto
heh
oblique garnet
115-120 is 10 timewalking dungeons๐ค
lusty grotto
what ilvl is tw quest anyway
oblique garnet
Idk if the timewalking is bugged or what but for some reason the end of the dungeon reward is 500k
385
lusty grotto
dont need rep grind for shrine :p
oblique garnet
But mah neck lvl
lusty grotto
do table missions LOL
modern brook
@oblique garnet will it be that high on sub 100 characters?
oblique garnet
Probably not
lusty grotto
hmmm prob not
modern brook
:^(
lusty grotto
but its still a lot of exp
modern brook
im just tryna power level my pally
lusty grotto
you do TW every time its up on alts
modern brook
I dont :^)
lusty grotto
and do invasions / legion invasions and island exps when theyre up
modern brook
๐ฌ
lusty grotto
those are the fastest leveling routes
you can do invasion with WM off if you're ๐
:p
modern brook
ppl that turn WM off on horde side are ally trash, tbh
oblique garnet
Fh lvlinng boost takes 2 hours
lusty grotto
i agree bull, i agree
oblique garnet
Bullfango you wanna know how bad the sharding is in eu?
oblique garnet
No its completely fucked
sick sentinel
I turn wm off when doing keys
lusty grotto
bad in what way
oblique garnet
You cant be in great seal
lusty grotto
coughpussykaegecough
oblique garnet
With wm on
sick sentinel
Because I can't summon anyone
lusty grotto
why not
modern brook
i assume cause allies camp it
lusty grotto
wtf lol
sick sentinel
Everyone else has it off
primal crypt
I have that shit off
lusty grotto
i refuse to turn it off
lusty grotto
i dont care if theres 200 alliance
primal crypt
I care because my time is valuable lol
sick sentinel
Alliance camps summoning stones
lusty grotto
i havent seen any alliance camps this week
primal crypt
It tilts me when I have to death run everywhere
oblique garnet
Yeah when i want to do a key i dont want to wait extra 30 minutes before starting on top of our healer slacking
primal crypt
^
lusty grotto
on monday, 15 allies came to docks, i wrecked 3 with my mage
and then a miracle, horde actually joined in
rip alliance
ye olde bait to guards works โ
lusty grotto
when 8.1 came out, they didn't join for shit on invasions
oblique garnet
They did
lusty grotto
and then i took my break, came back and everyone had WM off
i was like wtf
but people have gradually started turning it back on
oblique garnet
Yeah when the allince received the absurd rewards the sharding got scuffed and theres no chance for the horde to fight back
Like methodjosh was doing a raid on boralus and gm tpd 5 of their healers into theramore which led to the horde dying
oblique garnet
No
lusty grotto
oh
oblique garnet
The healers got tpd
sick sentinel
Is there a clip of that
lusty grotto
yeah that shouldn't happen
sick sentinel
:C
restive pivot
Guys what are the healers we are best with synergy wise, in your own experience?
In other words whats your fav healer?
floral tinsel
Druid or monk
shut summit
Monk and druid
floral tinsel
Druid has nicer utility
restive pivot
That is my experience too. Thanks .
floral tinsel
Monk har slightly more spot heal
restive pivot
We are on the verge of deciding what healer to pick for our group. Since we lack cr i think we ll go with rdruid.
sick sentinel
I personally prefer druids as well btw
Bark> cocoon imo and vortex+ typhoon or mass roots >RoP+aoe stun
restive pivot
Agreed
sick sentinel
Because you have shockwave and hopefully dh stun
restive pivot
My main was rdruid
sick sentinel
So monk stun is overkill
restive pivot
In s1
I loved the utility
With me rerolling tank though, we cant just push beyond 12-13
sick sentinel
Also cat weaving dps is huge some times
marble wave
No love for rshams -_-
sick sentinel
What ilvl is your shield
restive pivot
My first time tanking. Having issues still.
narrow abyss
Itโs all route planning
restive pivot
400
narrow abyss
S2
sick sentinel
Azerite?
restive pivot
we were crushed last week.
restive pivot
Maybe we are just bad.
Anything beyond 12-13
I remember having done +13 the start of season 2 with my rdruid.
At 389 ilvl
Now we are 400 average ilvl
We cant get past this 12-13 threshold
narrow abyss
This week kinda sucks. Next week will be good
sick sentinel
I also run a single bom
narrow abyss
Itโs a pretty decent offensive and defensive cooldown at same time but I donโt think itโs make or break
sick sentinel
Still timed +16 wcm today
narrow abyss
Whatโs your biggest issue when u do these keys
sick sentinel
And ml
narrow abyss
Route planning is super important this season
narrow abyss
Iโd add the %. Use MDT. And identify spots where you can intentionally trigger reaping at good spots
And have a good spot to LOS
To bring everything in
sick sentinel
The reaping is the easiest part of the dungeon
restive pivot
We did use mdt before one.
oblique garnet
still havent used mdt this seaon
restive pivot
Still depleted.
oblique garnet
i really should start doing it
restive pivot
we always pugged the healer
narrow abyss
Well last week was so healer dependent
restive pivot
This week i am looking for a vortex and mass root
When leap is on cd
Charging to rdps wont be enough
In mos tof the dungeons
narrow abyss
I mean really all u need is treants
restive pivot
At least for me
restive pivot
Yes necro
oblique garnet
get a frost mage
restive pivot
We brainstormed today as 4 person, and we concluded that we have no idea why we cant go past 12-13
sick sentinel
The thing I use is prayers
restive pivot
Overall is alright
I am lf a way out
I check warcraftlogs very frequently
But i check top tier players
Most of the time its not very useful for our group
sick sentinel
I swapped out my diamond for a goreblock this week
oblique garnet
it might be better
narrow abyss
Yeah I was debatjnfbthe same @sick sentinel
restive pivot
I am using jes in the 2nd slot
narrow abyss
Debating
primal crypt
Nice of you to have the choice
oblique garnet
but the initial shield from diamond helps on bosses alot
primal crypt
I wish I had a diamond
hushed cobalt
so poop, merektha's fang is on the gcd or something, it was fun while it lasted, for half a heroic dungeon
primal crypt
:(
sick sentinel
Running 400+s rezans and a 400+s gore block
oblique garnet
i have 400 rezans just sitting in the bags
restive pivot
I think i ll switch my howler for gore
restive pivot
We only ever use howler for dps too.
sick sentinel
I got my diamond from turning in the 4 dungeons quest back when
restive pivot
Since its 11-13 only i hve no survival issues
sick sentinel
Forgot lootspec in prot
oblique garnet
if youre struggling in 13-16 keys youre either wasting alot of time on routes or missing interrupts etc etc
sick sentinel
Anything under 20 is bad
narrow abyss
Do u pull super safe and slow?
sick sentinel
Also, if you have "no survival issues" it means you are not pulling enough
narrow abyss
Dps shouldnโt be 17 in s2
sick sentinel
You need to thread the line
restive pivot
We generally pull 2 groups, very rarely 3
primal crypt
99 stacks of necrotic
sick sentinel
If you are using all CDs, you are pulling too much
primal crypt
That's what you need to push
mental scarab
Go dark iron for removing debuffs๐
sick sentinel
You shouldn't use SW with something else, like SB
If you are forced to, you are pulling too much
lusty grotto
@restive pivot you're aware that s2 increased hp pools, dmg and everything for the ilvl bump right?
a 13 in s1 is not a 13 in s2
restive pivot
Yeah yeah, i am not a newbie. Just new to the class.
And concept of tanking entirely.
supple path
First week of season 2 was aggressively easy, yeah.
restive pivot
Probably that @supple path
Though i really feel like i can easily heal +15 today with my rdruid
mental scarab
Guys on M jadefire masters, when only the mage is left and in bird form. How many stacks do you take before swap?
lusty grotto
good good
restive pivot
I am forced to play the tank now though.
And i love prot w very much to be honest.
lusty grotto
being forced is not a good way to play
analog swift
@sick sentinel how big are your pulls bb? I canโt seem to break 17/18. I think best I did was 18 on waycrest teeming two weeks ago
lusty grotto
if you like it then good ๐
restive pivot
Almost as much as rdruid.
Only problem with tanking for me is i get stressed before the dungeon.
๐
marble cipher
I used to have that, now I just say 'fuckit, leeeeeroooooooy'
lusty grotto
it's just a game
supple path
When you're first getting into tanking it's super stressful to have to know the routes, etc. But then later on it's pure second nature yeah.
supple path
If you have a group of friends you can do initial runs with on voice or something you'll have a better time.
marble cipher
Just remember that dps fucks up at least 10 times for every tank fuckup ๐
supple path
The reason people roll DPS is that so no one yells at them when they fuck up.
marble cipher
I know, I also play dps.... And I often fuck up