else u risk overcomplicating an already complicated taunt swap
#protection
modern brook
warm plinth
You're a complicated tank swap
modern brook
😠
surreal stump
i mean on mythic i let the monk get thrown 90% of the time but then again i tank the boss most of the time
sick sentinel
Anyone have logs i can look at for champions heroic where you drop stacks with SR without leaping?
modern brook
I think its a bigger deal when your cotank is like BDK
or something that really relies on uptime to mitigate
so bdk
last mason
anything i can persoanlly do to stop atal little raptors from mauling me this week
surreal stump
trike its rng. i had my cotank monk have stacks reset cause of timers and other spell casts
sand egret
block
surreal stump
lol then walk back in slowly?
modern brook
They can take the impact sure
marble cipher
We have him escorted 😂
sand egret
@last mason little raptors, you should be blocking. Other than that a shockwave should be all you need for the dps to blow them up
modern brook
Just they cant mitigate the bleed while stunned
so they need to get pumped
I mean most tanks are like that yeah
marble cipher
Tbh, never noticed that, I facetank on monk, he gets thrown, ez kill, every week
sick sentinel
Thanks Adydar. I tried lfr soo many times to work on timing. Best window i found is cast during 11 to 14 stacks but very unreliable
modern brook
dont get me wrong shin I dont think any tank is bad for that fight
marble cipher
Probably not no
modern brook
just warriors not taking throw dot is more relevant when your cotank doesnt have passive mitigation like Monk does
surreal stump
trike the way to do it more easier is to wait for a large timer of the boss to cast, leap away letthem walk to you use spell reflect before they reach and most of the time will work fine
marble cipher
Possibly, with warrior. We run monk+bdk in M raids
My Warr is just a side project 😞
sand egret
that was our 8.0 album name
marble cipher
😂
modern brook
Ah yes with such hits as LoS shield wall plz and Dual wield shields when? and who could forget my foot is stronger than my sword
sand egret
or that hot diss track, The Clap
modern brook
8.0 was a good era, tbh
sand egret
love the oldies
lusty grotto
Shame on you, us warriors are not side projects
sick sentinel
Anybody down for a 4x prot, 1x healer, 10 key for the memes? Alliance side
modern brook
said nimchipadin
sand egret
that's the hit-single
modern brook
lol healer
sand egret
Viable
modern brook
5x prot or bust
marble cipher
On topic, how is Warr with necrotic? Leap /intervene on high stacks?
lusty grotto
Nimchipadin is down for 4 warrior 1 heal
modern brook
just kill shit before it gets big, but yah u got it
marble cipher
Kk
sand egret
basically, most packs you don't really need to kite
modern brook
50% party, also
sand egret
but if you do, that's how ya do it
marble cipher
First necro week on this char
surreal stump
my play style is always kill it before it kills you. dont run stand there and burn it down lol
modern brook
My general rule of thumb
surreal stump
is ok till someone ass pulls somthing
modern brook
if its living past avatar, i probably need to start kiting it
marble cipher
Haha, good rule
lusty grotto
Yogurt + coffee is bullfangos rule of thumb
lusty grotto
Exactly
lusty grotto
Yogurt + coffee
primal crypt
🤔
modern brook
Just for the record
sand egret
but he's a prot pally
why on earth would you listen to a guy who uses flashlights to tank
modern brook
I had a prot pally try and use BoP rotationally
wary gyro
......
sand egret
at one point Yam thought he could turn up his Brightness settings to increase the potency of his spells...
jus' sayin'
primal crypt
she's pretty cute
modern brook
honestly
Thats the biggest reason DKs suck
Their readily accessible mog sets are terrible
sand egret
ehhhh
modern brook
Paladin and to a lesser extent warrior got some dope shit
modern brook
I'm talking 12 honor tokens = full set available
wary gyro
Which one
modern brook
i aint trying GRIND
modern brook
ur talking about
neon tangle
You know I thought for a second
primal crypt
You know what's dumb about fembelf
neon tangle
'I wonder how hard it would be to be #1 tank on my realm'
primal crypt
Their helmets
sand egret
everything?
neon tangle
then I realized I'm on the same realm as glick
primal crypt
Never cover the back
primal crypt
I absolutely hate that
modern brook
sand egret
naw
wary gyro
I use the t20 helmet on my pally
modern brook
imagine not protecting the most important part of your body
sand egret
ill get it for ya bull, but i gotta run
modern brook
THats sucha warrior thing to do
lusty grotto
:o
modern brook
i dont wear a helmet because u need to know who killed you - not a paladin
i wear a helmet because im a big sissy who cant do anything without magical intervention - big bitch pallys
lusty grotto
Warriors need a headbutt skill
modern brook
Im still bugged that Haymaker isnt Warrior talent
lusty grotto
Imagine charge while headbutting
modern brook
big punch is exactly what this spec needs
lusty grotto
Rumor has it, yamo swapped from high mountain to goblin cause he got jebaited by a red cloth
modern brook
Yamo just realized he could make his character uglier AND not have to look at it
lusty grotto
Lol
modern brook
thats why he likes gizmo so much
brisk ferry
Glyph of Headbutt
eager geyser
@Bladesong#6216
formal kayak
on M+ do you guys use avatar constantly or do you save it as a defensive button?
10 and below
lavish oracle
Constantly, always
20 second duration, 45-50 second CD depending how well you're spending rage; you want as much uptime on it as possible
modest wedge
On cd yeah but if some small pack gives reaping i wil hold it
Example ad raptor pack
formal kayak
I see, thanks
sleek root
Is searing peck blockable? or do you just get pasted by magic damage
wary gyro
Not blockable
wary gyro
Searing peck isn't on there
wary gyro
I know I was answering someone else then pointing out the thing asked about wasnt on the list posted
astral crystal
jeje
signal plover
Jiji
brisk ferry
Why do people think avatar is defensive?
astral crystal
free IP pepega
neon tangle
It's that free IP from BoM obvs
brisk ferry
Rofl
signal plover
Cuz the best defense is a good offense
brisk ferry
I mean people can't be reading any tooltips at all?
signal plover
I mean it gives rage
warm plinth
Well, you also get crit block from Bastion, which is substantial with BoMx3, plus it gives rage.
brisk ferry
If they even have bastion.
warm plinth
Just explaining why they might consider it defensive. It's definitely a hybrid ability with Bastion, though obviously primarily used for the damage increase. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
brisk ferry
Maybe it's the roots and snares part? Lol
patent flower
So my raider.io page hasnt updated my timed kr and motherlode in over 3 days. Just did an atal and it updated right away...wtf is this
neon tangle
@patent flower did you tell it to update
neon tangle
was it your highest timed KR/ML?
wary gyro
The runs you did might not have ended up on the leaderboards
patent flower
they just arent showing
neon tangle
do you see it on your armory page?
patent flower
yes
brisk ferry
If it updated your AD it means they didn't make leaderboard
wary gyro
What level were they
patent flower
It doesnt matter if it made leader board or not...they arent showing on my profile as being timed
neon tangle
IIRC each indivudual armory page also tracks your highest key now
brisk ferry
Correct. They won't show if they didn't rank for your realm
wary gyro
Raider IO gets its data from the leaderboards so if you didn't make the leaderboards it won't show up there
neon tangle
what levels did you have? I see a KR from 2 days ago that was chested
patent flower
Yeah a kr and motherlode were chested but it dint show up on my profile
brisk ferry
It's the only possible reason if it updated with a more recent key
neon tangle
same for ML
click the dropdown
to see all runs of a dungeon
It only shows the highest scoring one by default
patent flower
Oh i see
neon tangle
and your no-chest 15 > 1chest 10
wary gyro
Yeah looking at your page they are there but they didn't score as high
patent flower
Welp...back to the grind
neon tangle
the 15 only got you 114 points, go chest a 12 and you're golden
tepid dagger
408 ilvl, never tanked a necrotic week. My health doesn't usually go down much anyways so as long as there is a reset between packs, should be simple right?
patent flower
Just kite when stacks get high...its physical dmg now so it doesnt completely cuck us.
lusty grotto
I'm kinda surprised we're getting so many people that haven't tanked necrotic before
Today at least
patent flower
Necrotic on my dk in legion was ezpz...lol
unborn island
-15 ilvl for new ring and DC on shoulders, worth it? Seems it is.....
I didn't get DC on my gamble piece
😦
warm plinth
If you're getting an extra ring, then yes, do it
lusty grotto
Yea def
neon tangle
@lusty grotto It's the first necro since 8.1 / FOTM rerollers
wary gyro
I rerolled tank this tier because my guilds tanks all quit in 8.0 so it's my first week of necrotic
tepid dagger
Any warriors streaming mythic + today?
stiff gate
I still think Necro is by far the worst affix. Whole benefit of playing warrior instead of monk or DK is that I do damage, but when you have to kite every 20-30 stacks that benefit is entirely negated. On bigger pulls you can’t even finish avatar before needing to run and afk at ranged.
lusty grotto
You can still do dmg
neon tangle
and yet, warriors are still on top of the leaderboards 😛
strong forum
so which ring combination
sick sentinel
thats a really bad way of looking affixes tbh
wary gyro
Just thunderclap while running
sick sentinel
why would you play the class if you cant have the downsides with upsides
stiff gate
Only for a few seconds. If you’re pulling what you’d pull on any other week (2-3 groups of mobs) you hit 30 stacks in about 10 seconds and have to run.
wary gyro
415
tepid dagger
415
sick sentinel
for us skittish is non-existent aswell why are you not talking about that and just saying prot sucks for necro
lusty grotto
Spec crackling, the radius is big enough
stiff gate
And if you’re pulling small to avoid that you’ll never time the key because it’s Fortified any everything has a billion hp.
supple path
Eh, while warriors get hurt by kiting more, we're also more able to just facetank a pack up to a 40 stack.
While a DK or someone starts getting reaaalllly squishy as self-healing gets nerfed
sand egret
who be tagging me?
neon tangle
it me, ur DK
sick sentinel
yeah it does
sand egret
@sick sentinel you rang?
neon tangle
well that's at least a little sane
neon tangle
I would still rather play DK this week just for the mob control with sanguine
but sanguine isn't killing me, necro is
neon tangle
We run BDK + monk healer, depends on the dungeon though
stiff gate
Frost Mage is a huge no no for Sanguine weeks.
inland mesa
all these people getting gear they don't know which to use and better shields than me makes me a sad panda 😦
opal peak
Do y’all take bounding stride to kite easier or keep crackling thunder to dps while kiting
neon tangle
Main things killing me are: DPS pulling minibosses that ignore slows and teleporting/spawning mobs
sick sentinel
bounding this week for me
inland mesa
stupid champs won't drop a shield
opal peak
So don’t bring those dps sadbox
neon tangle
Prolly best not to
It's the first time we've been pushing keys higher than 10's so there's a bit of learning involved
I certainly make mistakes as well
inland mesa
crappy week to push, well guess it could be worse
when's the next easy push all my 15s week?
sick sentinel
week isnt bad for sure
supple path
Next week is tyran/bursting/skittish yeah?
inland mesa
is it still new bursting that hurts, or reverted
inland mesa
with smart dps that doesn't 8 stack should be fine
supple path
Doesn't hurt nearly as bad as wh en it was paired with quaking + fortified though
inland mesa
yeah just hard to tell my cleave team to stop haha, elem shaman, DH, DK
supple path
Tyran/raging/necrotic in 3 weeks isn't bad either.
But I think next week'll end up being a solid one to push.
Just sad times for anyone queueing with DPS 15 ilvls above 'em
sick sentinel
as long as explosive isnt a thing i enjoy m+
inland mesa
why two necrotics so close together?
sick sentinel
well yeah its great for us tbf but i dont like spending all my gcds on shield slam and devestate
supple path
https://mythicpl.us/ - lord knows, it'll be like 10 weeks before it happens again after that.
wonder if those stupid fury auto attack traits would get me over the line where a white hit + victory rush kills an explosive. obviously not worth it but I WONDER
sick sentinel
teeming quaking is good and week after raging necro
good 2 weeks to have some fun in m+
supple path
I don't like fortified/teeming
opal peak
I feel bad for my healer next week
sick sentinel
dont remember any other key that is bad with teeming
supple path
Just the time tax of extra mobs with extra hp
feels like even when we execute perfectly those weeks are tight on timers
inland mesa
tyranical teeming volcanic doesn't look bad either
sick sentinel
that is great week
supple path
Yeah
stone cloud
Necrotic is non existent on a warrior
sick sentinel
it was first week when mythic released such a fun week
supple path
Tyrannical Raging Necrotic won't be bad either
sick sentinel
go insanely big and burst down
opal peak
Lol tyr teeming volcanic sounds wonderful
sick sentinel
it is 😄
opal peak
My war was not a real boi then
inland mesa
oh god, tyranical raging volcanic
stone cloud
70+% mastery with avatar up their meeles don’t even tickle. I play bounding because no slow in our group and warrior doesn’t feel like he’s weak at all
This week
inland mesa
I wish I had more than one BoM 😦
sick sentinel
warrior is great for m+ no matter the affix
maybe except some dungeons but it can be fixed with good comp
stone cloud
Bursting or so much
inland mesa
granted I'm full 415 now, so I can just save for specific pieces
stone cloud
Bursting on a warrior sucks
supple path
Got a BoM helm with my random roll yesterday, so happies.
sick sentinel
bursting sucks generaly tho they buffed it alot for no reason
inland mesa
I got the wrong dino helm D:
supple path
Bursting was a joke before
stone cloud
Prot pally it’s was a :LUL:
sick sentinel
yeah but it is %14 now it was %10
supple path
the way it happens makes it intrinsically non-threatening
because even if it wipes you it wipes you after you killed the pack
sick sentinel
should lower it to %12 to make it better for healers
supple path
what they need to do is make it not keep you in combat
if we want to improve healer QoL
supple path
Yeah though it has a very irritating spillover effect.
Why can't we go back to the glorious old days
of swapping to naked and then eating raw +hp food instead of % based stuff
good times, good times
stone cloud
Removing all gear for like 500 dmg 20 stacks
supple path
which remains an amazing trick in world pvp
stone cloud
Lmao
supple path
fear someone, run around a corner, go naked, eat two ticks of raw +hp food, gain 90% of your hp back
ocean acorn
How do u deal with the gauntlet on temple with necrotic
inland mesa
cry
supple path
those things are intensely kitable
inland mesa
piss them all off, shockwave them, run away
opal peak
Also just kill them, they fall over
stone cloud
Oh explosives on warrior are 
ocean acorn
Ill just bring a frist mage then
inland mesa
MW monk rop
ocean acorn
Treants
inland mesa
holy handgrenades
stone cloud
Ele shammy
neon tangle
I'm a fan of the just killing them method, they don't do much/any damage
stone cloud
Disc priest knock
neon tangle
You could have 100% reduced healing and be fine on the lil' dudes 😛
supple path
Only reason I don't like to kill them is t o stop them from respawning
but hell if I actually know the mechanics on that
neon tangle
fun fact, BDK can grip the mob who tries to carry the orb back
supple path
oh yeah it's very cheat.
I tried to taunt it on my warrior the other day and was like "i have this memory of this working"
oh right bdk alt
ocean acorn
Lol
neon tangle
It's one of those little moments of joy where you really feel like your kit works well
strong hill
Lol I know what you mean , playing my Druid alt , go to hit what should be my leap button “ why am I just standing here ? Oh right. Wrong character
sand egret
key to the gauntlet is pulling everything
pull half, then you try and kite and get smacked by a random mob you didn't aggro and it doesn't reset stacks
supple path
Yeah just gather it all up, clear a path for your orb runner, jog in a circle in the middle of the room yelling 'YOU GUYS ARE SLOW'
sand egret
just gotta pull em all so you can control em all
neon tangle
@strong hill It took me a long time after swapping to DK to realize I need to avoid fears
supple path
A distressing number of fears are physical.
neon tangle
@stone cloud yes
stone cloud
Like?
neon tangle
But AMS involves pressing it beforehand
my brain just didn't go "I should do something about this"'
supple path
Really? never tested that, would've sworn it didn't work on some stuff, but my memory is vaaagueee.
neon tangle
but yeah, I AMS now (and... I went an uncomfortably long time not realziing that undead have a fear break)
supple path
nice, withdrawn. I'll have to just go back to fearing DKs myself.
stone cloud
The abilities are physical but they took easy code way and made it still a “fear”
supple path
they really got dumb with that stuff this expansion.
see: our spell reflecting physical dots on grong conversation yesterday.
stone cloud
Was this way in legion Iirc
Lol if warrior could reflect bleeds... we strong enough as it is
supple path
Could you AMS fear on hounds? because if so I had a string of 40 of the lamest DKs in a row
stone cloud
You could
neon tangle
You can AMS a lot of stupid shit, like bursting
stone cloud
As far as bad players and tanks there more bad blood dk’s then any other class imo
Lots of them also with like 1500io and shit because they’re still a blood dk
supple path
They've been #1 FotM for m+ for what like...2 years?
that's gonna attract a rough player base yeah.
neon tangle
It's certainly more straightforward to be an OK BDK than an OK most-other-classes
stone cloud
I agree bdk is easy af but even a bad blood dk is still strong lol
neon tangle
I feel like I need to know routes better before I do 15s
people get really upset if you pull mobs they weren't expecting
ripe crow
thinking of maining the prot pally/bdk and alting my warrior tbh, a bad healer makes my life hard
neon tangle
I queued for a couple and the group broke down from stupid mistakes (not... always mine)
lusty grotto
wtf lol
neon tangle
like someone got feared in the first room in KR
stone cloud
Routes in season 2 😂
lusty grotto
that's a terrible reason to bench a warrior
stone cloud
And prot pally
lusty grotto
heh
stone cloud
Tbh the worst is a bad healer on a monk
ripe crow
toolytoolbox
lusty grotto
if you're dying
ripe crow
TOOLYTOOLBOX
lusty grotto
its probably not the healer's fault
modern brook
Have u tried pressing the dont die button?
lusty grotto
bad healers deplete keys cause they can't keep the group up
supple path
The worst bad healers I've met have been on disc priests.
neon tangle
@stone cloud Think I could get in to 15's with 408 ilvl + 1100 io?
modern brook
Disc is my 2nd favorite healer tbh
neon tangle
I prefer druid and monk
lusty grotto
you're a monkey
modern brook
Bet drood def my top choice
supple path
I run with a holy paladin, which has given me newfound respect for how much holy paladins hate when ranged players stand 40 yards away when there's no mechanical reason.
lusty grotto
i dont like druids for the sole reason that, pug druids don't fucking ever shift to cat and do kitty dots, it makes my blood boil and my rage cap
supple path
Oh yeah, pug druids, always 0 dps
modern brook
0dps healers trigger me
lusty grotto
nimchipadin does the shockadin npnp
neon tangle
I'm training my monk to do damage
supple path
It was a goddamn plague in FFXIV too. Some healers just hate nuking.
modern brook
I didn't know this was A CARRY >:(
supple path
Healers could do 50% of the damage of a DPS in that game, and 80% of the healers you'd run with would do 0 damage.
neon tangle
my monk only really does 1-2 attacks to apply the debuff
ran with a pally doing 8k overall damage in a shrine the other day and shit it was amazing
supple path
I'm constantly yelling at my paladin to let that DPS die if he's that sexually fascinated by the sanguine pool over there, you have nuking to be doing.
neon tangle
8k extra damage really makes those timers more achievable
supple path
They can do 30k+ dps for 20s with their CD bursts too, it's crazy.
lusty grotto
nimchipadin is dope
neon tangle
He did 30k dps on the last boss
modern brook
Nimchimpadin
neon tangle
w/ that buff
lusty grotto
😠
supple path
Oh yeah, if you're running with an hpal on last shrine boss, you better frontload threat during taunt
modern brook
My disc priest does similar in sots until pug dps let cats through and we wipe and miss timer
supple path
I just explode the mob in 5 seconds with my paladin while using a cd
lusty grotto
yeah i usually just wall the fucking mob anyway
supple path
not really much else worth CDing on that fight
supple path
Yeah it's really a 'why not' situation, we don't need 'em for anything else.
and 100% want the healer to not waste GCDs healing you right then
modern brook
Fair
lusty grotto
👀
walling it is more fun, fuck kiting
inb4 smeld to kill healer
healer smeld = 420IQ move
outer dew
i mean
you do use meld to dodge mechanics
lol
if you're a dps, if you watch dps timers
just make sure to meld before a mechanic
lusty grotto
ffffffffuuuuuuuuuu
lusty grotto
lol
warm plinth
Step into my web
neon tangle
does the dwarf racial clear necro ?
warm plinth
Yeah
lusty grotto
yup
warm plinth
Both the dwarf one and the DID one
neon tangle
why do people complain about the belf racial
warm plinth
Complain in what way?
neon tangle
that it's OP
warm plinth
Idk, it's still really strong, but I wouldn't call it OP anymore.
lusty grotto
because you couldn't clear necro at the start of BFA with dwarf racial as it was magic
(BDKs could)
neon tangle
AMS didn't even clear it though, it just prevented stacks and you still had to kite some
lusty grotto
right
warm plinth
Well, tbh, it was dumb that dwarves couldn't remove it before lol
"Stoneform: Removes all poison, disease, curse, magic, and bleed effects"
sick sentinel
Here let me explain
lusty grotto
yeah i def agree
sick sentinel
And thats the reason why
sick sentinel
Be literally anything else but BE
Since you know, everything else has more use
"Oh no, my aoe purge. WHATEVER SHALL I DO WITHOUT IT"
sick sentinel
At least itll have more fucking health
neon tangle
oh, and a tiny random secondary buff
sick sentinel
than a purge that I could get from CLASSES WITH A SHORTER CD
primal crypt
sick sentinel
Like, itd be one thing if the belf had legit impact
lusty grotto
im just happy with my Attack Power buff
blood rage, perfect name for warrior racial
supple path
Now in fairness shamans and priests have all unhotkeyed dispel as part of their pact of being the worst.
wary gyro
It had a much bigger impact when it was off the gcd as a resource generator
sick sentinel
You mean, the only reason it was good?
supple path
I loved it about 100x more as a "make mob stop standing in sanguine" ability (
wary gyro
Yeah aoe silence was nice
supple path
But at this point f paying blizzard for a race change just because they nerf/buff racials every patch
lusty grotto
😮
neon tangle
I mean it would be nice if the racials were all semi-useless
like the horde ones
but stoneform/meld are WACKY
sick sentinel
Fuck that aoe purge, its garbage and you can't tell me every other racial is better
supple path
Yeah, the whole "cancel this significant mechanic" racials going on with them right now are clearly busted
warm plinth
I'm honestly really surprised they didn't put necro in the same spell class as Grievous when they changed it to physical.
supple path
Kimbul's bleed and the 'hahaha get wrecked this tank turns into a dwarf you turn into a human" mechanic is beyond rage inducing
wary gyro
I get turned into a dranei
supple path
Being a dwarf on that fight is the equivalent of being like 15 ilvls higher in terms of survivability, it's just dumb.
neon tangle
just be a dwarf and have the eng helm
lusty grotto
calm down satan
supple path
It's also, hilariously, the only boss in that zone I can think of off the top of my head where arcane torrent would've been even vaguely useful.
sick sentinel
I want the engi helm to recognize that ur a dwarf and when it trys to cater u it fails and appplies and extra stack
upper spoke
fastest way from SW to silverpine forest for the love is in the air dailies? I keep flying SW to plaguelands, but that's a good 5 minute journey
supple path
Use your dalaran hearthstone and port to UC?
wary gyro
Go to legion dal and take the portal to dalaran crater for ally
sick sentinel
Just be careful to not die
neon tangle
similarly, I don't know why blizzard made the stupid "DISPELL THIS BIG GROUP OF MOBS" packs
to punish alliance for not having belfs I guess
supple path
so that they could nerf arcane torrent's CD 2 weeks later so that it's not up for both packs
sick sentinel
Because when the fuck did a priest Mass dispell in legion
You know they put that shit in SPECIFICALLY for that sort of bullshit
supple path
They realized that everyone in the game was missing those glory days of m'uru and your priest screaming 'FUCK MASS DISPEL MISSED ON ONE OF THEM"
sick sentinel
Well do I got a boss for you
It starts with Avatar and ends with of Akunda
I HOPE THE HEALER LIKES DISPELLING WHILE SILENCED
neon tangle
yeah but then I'd be alliance
sick sentinel
And short
neon tangle
I would 100% play DID if I was alliance
supple path
you can enjoy the brilliance of stoneform on kimbul for the small price of being what...an orc? I forget
supple path
Blood elves corresponding to humans is already a paddling imo
sick sentinel
Wait what?
wary gyro
Tauren become dranei
neon tangle
orc -> dwarf yeah
upper spoke
thanks. interesting way
sick sentinel
NIGHTELVES LITERALLY EXISTS AS PRE BLOODELVES
wary gyro
Goblins become gnomes
sick sentinel
That's fine
wary gyro
Trolls become nelfs
sick sentinel
That makes sense
wary gyro
Which actually makes sense for the lore
sick sentinel
Yeah but get fucked worgen
neon tangle
I don't want to give up my daily undead tho just to get stoneform on kimbul
sick sentinel
Nobody wants to be u
wary gyro
They match up the races primarily based on what classes they can be
neon tangle
guess what pandas turn in to
supple path
Worgen will correspond with the soon to be released horde race, "Beast In A Hat"
sick sentinel
Lol
neon tangle
it's pandas
wary gyro
I'm going out on a limb here and guessing pandas
supple path
The other day I learned that the panda faction leaders for the horde + alliance live together in a house on panda island.
wary gyro
Allied races become their existing conterpart
supple path
they're not really invested in this war like we're hoping for
sick sentinel
They fucking drink, eat and for sure just fuck all day
inner trail
yeah but theyre suuuper passive aggressive to each other
neon tangle
given the number of pandas I see in the wild
I'm guessing they fuck about as often as real life pandas do
lusty grotto
t h i c c
open bluff
666 int
marble cipher
EVIL INT
open bluff
cursed shield
lusty grotto
gz
strong hill
@marble cipher grats. Hopefully your luck will run off for me for tonight for blockade
lusty grotto
reminder
you can paste images here
you dont need to upload them to sites like ^ that
ilvl > all so yes
switch to OP though
don't trash crown though, wear it, click it, then use the gem 😃
dull pilot
looks like the 400 is better
lusty grotto
the 400 is not better
tender phoenix
[Saber of Dread Pirate Lockwood](vers & mast ) or [Apetagonizer's Claw] (Crit & mast)?
tender phoenix
yep
lusty grotto
for defensive ness saber, for dps claw
why would you even go Strength in numbers @dull pilot
switch Engi helm to OP
and Engi helm is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crown
ilvl > all
opal peak
so what ur saying is, 400 > 415?
opal peak
🐵
lusty grotto
lmao
inner trail
funnily enough I got the same exact boots as from the last weeks chest, fml
lusty grotto
welcome to the boot club
where you get boots every week for 4 weeks straight
not even TF boots
inner trail
feels 
man
sand egret
Ohh shit, @outer dew , why you puttin my talent tree on blast like that?
sand egret
now everyone is gonna rock that shit
lusty grotto
them trendsetters in here
clear quarry
That talent tree is fire. LOL
Definitely the new meta.
sand egret
I rock Punish myself, but still
lusty grotto
rofl
sand egret
mines min/maxed to M+ tho
outer dew
this why i the raid god
sand egret
since I can get those SS snipes thru punish
clear quarry
So last night tanking the Champion fight in BoD, I couldn't figure out the correct timing to spell reflect in order to drop my stacks.
Is it true that you can actually do that, or was I mislead?
lusty grotto
cant wait to see those random copying
outer dew
tbh
lusty grotto
is it HC champ?
signal plover
Hmm min max for m+ and not running itf?
outer dew
i'm gonna do one raid as that
clear quarry
HC Champ, yes.
lusty grotto
oh well you're kinda screwed, 3 tank it for ezpz
outer dew
you don't reset the stacks
sand egret
like, that's actually mah talents this week
lusty grotto
honestly if you really wanna reset
here's what you do
wait on swing -> count to 4-5 -> SR -> count to 4-5 -> LEAP
and pray to god it's not on add phase
cause you will get stacks faster in addphase
you have to do it on boss phase
that's the only realistic way of resetting on HC
by yourself
if you have a dps taunt/pop cd it's easier of course
if you 3 tank it, its even easier
inner trail
they removed spell reflect from being able to prevent stacks I'm pretty sure
clear quarry
I didn't realize there was much difference between HC and N. What if I SR and have the other tank taunt the boss to the adds, and thne I just taunt it right back?
inner trail
or did they put it back again
lusty grotto
that's a nono
clear quarry
@inner trail that's what I felt like last night, but then just assumed I was missing the timing.
lusty grotto
if dps dmg boss and give him stacks, youre gonna have a bad time
tribal schooner
I swear our tank did reset it while it on Mythic.. Or you can on mythic but no hc?
clear quarry
Does cleave add zealotry?
lusty grotto
mythic is WAY easier
inner trail
it worked for like the first week then they detected fun and fixed it
tribal schooner
Yeah
lusty grotto
you can reset super ez in mythic
tribal schooner
Prayer of the fallen is easy
lusty grotto
yes cleave adds zealotry
tribal schooner
While on hc you need good dps to just zerg it
rough egret
400 block / 405 RAGE / 410 vial
tepid dagger
Would you go for a second DC over a Bloodsport or Calous Reprisal? I have 3 BOM and could run 1, 2, or 3 DC
rough egret
what would you use
lusty grotto
depends on what you want Renje
rough egret
no
lusty grotto
no
rough egret
mekka
lusty grotto
Mecha trinket
stone cloud
You could reset it first week
rough egret
2x on use trinks?
stone cloud
@clear quarry
clear quarry
Thank you @stone cloud
rough egret
both at 1:30
lusty grotto
yeah obviously not good to have 2 on use with the same CD
you can still SR it @stone cloud
@clear quarry and @inner trail
like i said
heady fog
I'm pretty sure SR still works, did yesterday anyway. I leapt away, SR'd one hit and intercepted back to where she was being tanked
lusty grotto
wait on swing (or application of it) -> count to 4-5 -> SR -> listen to reflect sound -> count to 4-5 -> LEAP
yup
it does
that would be the way to reset it
its tricky as fuck though, and motherfuckers will complain about you moving boss during boss phase but... that'd be the way to do it
plain ice
their parses mang
oblique garnet
just zerg it
lusty grotto
also like i said, that doesn't work on add phase, cause she will apply the debuff faster
oblique garnet
it doesnt last long enough to need resets anyways
lusty grotto
well yeah
just saying its still possible
and yeah there are some guilds that don't have the dps to zerg it
3 tanking it would be way easier in that case
but that's still an option
stone cloud
We just swap after first adds
lusty grotto
that also works
stone cloud
Or add tank taunts boss across room since waiting to attack
And taunt back when stacks drop
lusty grotto
or you can take the disorient and have dps pray
stone cloud
After adds dead By The Way!
ocean acorn
is this for grong?
lusty grotto
champs
stone cloud
Champs
lusty grotto
why would it be for grong lol
supple path
I like to have the add tank get a taunt in at some point, then if I eat a disorient it just pings to him and leaves the DPS alone yeah.
on demand stack resets if it actually is necessary.
lusty grotto
that sounds like a way better way to handle it yeah
ocean acorn
my guild 3 tanks it and we 18 manned it yesterday
supple path
Out of curiousity, does force of nature work on the boss? Never checked.
supple path
What a shame.
Other overfinessey question on it: If a DPS taunts, and you intervene the DPS, do you get the stack or do they?
tribal schooner
It works fine on Paku tho, since boss doesn't apply stacks, he get stacks when he attacks
supple path
Yeah, mekka too I believe
sick sentinel
it actually failed?
outer dew
yeap
lusty grotto
😮
outer dew
that threw me off
sick sentinel
At least I wasn't crazy
I've seen it fail several times, not often, but more than enough to know its not 100%
narrow abyss
What failed
sick sentinel
Engi brez
narrow abyss
Oh shit it can fail????
I’ve never seen it haha. And our death runs usually involve rogue vanishing and doing engi Rez
sick sentinel
its probably a small % chance to fail
I have casted it over 50 times I feel
no fails
narrow abyss
Ya
sick sentinel
Im more surprised people are suprised it fails
I think I might have even said it failed one time here
lusty grotto
i thought fails were consuming the item
sick sentinel
same
dull pilot
finding it hard to see how the 415 is better every trate on the 400 is bis http://prntscr.com/mnx3c7
sick sentinel
first of all
lusty grotto
i told you like an hour ago already
lusty grotto
the word "BIS" triggers the shit outta me
sick sentinel
UF and OP is better than AP imo in the middle trait
sick sentinel
lusty grotto
triggering intensifies
dull pilot
snowflake triged oh my sorry
lusty grotto
ah, a troll
dull pilot
i am notroll
dull pilot
yes i hurt his feelings ofc call for a ban
primal crypt
Bring in the hammer.
lusty grotto
you said "snowflake" so i'm gonna assume you're an Incel trumpfan
dull pilot
i am unsure what that is
lusty grotto
by all means wear the 400
primal crypt
Top kek, going back to my dinner
dull pilot
i am from Scotland is that a yank thing ?
lusty grotto
if you're gonna keep asking, might as well save yourself the time
dull pilot
you seam upset i will let u be
oblique garnet
Not even bom you shouldnt drop ilvl
dull pilot
not born ?
dull pilot
u need more armour
oblique garnet
No BoM
lusty grotto
you need more IQs
lusty grotto
🤷
primal crypt
What he means is
Use your engineering helmet
Because it's better
If you don't think so, use the other helmet
dull pilot
lusty grotto
so u get more iq
oblique garnet
Im pretty sure if you read the guide
lusty grotto
problem solved
oblique garnet
It says Ilvl>everything
dull pilot
lol u were done when you were droped as a babby
dull pilot
he called my stuped free game
primal crypt
Stop.
lusty grotto
trying way too hard lol
oblique garnet
For a scottish person your english is not very good
dull pilot
call for stop yet keeps going ?
primal crypt
Everyone just leave him alone
lusty grotto
so yamo
primal crypt
Riderr, take the information and do what you will with it
dull pilot
what has skyhold become
lusty grotto
when is the stream
dark lark
anybody else rolling with rumbling earth and bounding stride for sanguine necrotic week?
dull pilot
make skyhold g8 again kick the kids
dark lark
grayt
dark lark
hmm
sick sentinel
I have never specced out of rumbling earth for more than 2 dungeons in a row
sand egret
Things don't just up and go away when the fail Nim....you're still here.
oblique garnet
Its not worth going into rumbling since every class pretty much has an aoe stun so it DRs all the time
dark lark
dont need the more frequent aoe stun to kite?
sand egret
I'm not a fan of the DR
oblique garnet
Dh, shaman, monk, warlock
dark lark
but people are liking bounding?
sand egret
I use Crackling Thunder
oblique garnet
Havent felt the need for bounding yet
sick sentinel
I play with a combination of DH/rogue/hunter or boomie and resto
primal crypt
Crackling
sand egret
this season its even more a reason with how nutso reaping can be
sand egret
helps snag everything
sand egret
there are a few fights where Bounding is nice tho
sand egret
hey @lusty grotto , is BiS viable?
primal crypt
only doing TW and love rocket farm
lusty grotto
yeah i just finished rocket farm for today
oblique garnet
Yamo tw???
primal crypt
maybe some low keys, but nothing else
oblique garnet
Can i join poggers
lusty grotto
TW 😮
sand egret
do TW on a bear, it's a real treat. the ol' 0 armor tank
primal crypt
groce
timber nest
is there a way to make a macro for racials that changes icons depending on what race you are? i.e arcane torrent for blood elf, then when your in bod on alliance side it shows the human racial icon?
timber nest
yes, share please
sand egret
its a trap
lusty grotto
so you need 2 macros
supple path
Last time I tried to use a macro to use EMFH + arcane torrent on same hotkey the next 40 times I used arcane torrent it 'missed' on all targets. Spooked me bad.
probably some unrelated bug (was a few weeks ago)
lusty grotto
/cast Gift of the Naaru /cast Light's Judgement(Racial) /cast Quaking Palm /cast Rocket Jump /cast Shadowmeld /cast Spatial Rift /cast Stoneform /cast War Stomp /cast Will of the Forsaken
south condor
My guild is considering switching our tank comp for conclave. How do I let them know that warrior is much better than DK that fight?
timber nest
say "paku doesnt touch me, i dont need healing"
sand egret
i keed, but yeah give em the Paku case
umbral forge
The paku case?
sand egret
what was said above
timber nest
paku, the one who increases his atk speed for each melee swing doesnt do shit to warriors, since we have 100% block for almost 30 seconds
umbral forge
Oooh
supple path
3 shield blocks -> last stand -> 2-3 shield blocks woo
umbral forge
So my guild is dumb for putting me on Gonk.
sick sentinel
SW and then 2SBs more
umbral forge
And the brewm on Paku
sand egret
Yes.
timber nest
insanely dumb
fringe marten
Is the tortollan emissary feather for prot or dps spec?
supple path
And even that's totally unnecessary because you can just have a DPS taunt while you intervene them.
sand egret
i think the mastery one is prot, Dad
fringe marten
figured. it's likely for either spec
fringe marten
oh yeah I know