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primal crypt
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I can do that

lusty grotto
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you only have to learn the first 2

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the rest are ez

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except maybe 3rd phase of jade masters

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and conclave frontals

sand egret
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raids are more fun going in blind

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😃

primal crypt
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Lmao

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Not when you've been farming the bosses

sand egret
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last time I tanked I did that

primal crypt
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Im not trying to be the reason we get hard stuck on grong lmao

sand egret
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my nickname was Saitama

lusty grotto
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so, learn to drop stacks on 1st one if youre boss tank

primal crypt
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Reflect kite yeah?

lusty grotto
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if add tank, just bootyclap

primal crypt
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Kk

lusty grotto
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on grong just know how the combo works

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he does 3 casts

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could be either bleed or smash

primal crypt
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Bite and Tank buster

lusty grotto
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manage those via taunts so someone doesnt get smashed twice

sand egret
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because i'd get pulled in every once and a while to fill in for a our tank when he'd take a day off and I'd just demand the fight info in " 20 seconds or less". It was quite funny when people are giving Nighthold strats in under 20 seconds

primal crypt
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And I can reflect throw

lusty grotto
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3rd cast, gets gripped.. if its you Spell Reflect before

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if not, just taunt

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so boss stays there

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that's it

primal crypt
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Ez

lusty grotto
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oh yeah

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get close to other peoples

primal crypt
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Yeah, fear

sand egret
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just bubble it

primal crypt
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...

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NO PROT PALADINS HERE M8

sand egret
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look at this flashlight boi in denial

primal crypt
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jadefire reflect bugged still?

sand egret
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looooooool

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❤ you Nim

lusty grotto
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hold on, that actually worked

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i was just gonna paste the url

sand egret
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👀

lusty grotto
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dunno on the reflect yamo, i just dont use it on that fight lol

primal crypt
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Yeah, i heard if you reflect the fireballs

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You fire dmg the raid

old zephyr
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jadefire reflect is okay now I think

lusty grotto
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they blow up the raid

primal crypt
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Or something of that nature

lusty grotto
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oh, that's good to know

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its cause when your stacks fall off, they do raid dmg

primal crypt
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Ill try it tonight

lusty grotto
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so you don't wanna go too high

primal crypt
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Yeah

lusty grotto
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so when you SR'd

primal crypt
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Thats the tank swap

lusty grotto
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you put the thing on the boss

primal crypt
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How many stacks usually

lusty grotto
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and it blew up the raid

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dunno i do like 5-8 on HC, not sure how many in mythic, probably the same

primal crypt
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Kk

lusty grotto
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remember to face the monk mini game

primal crypt
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Opulence

lusty grotto
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super ez

primal crypt
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Just swap on shield break right?

lusty grotto
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eh?

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Shield Block

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but to be safe sure

primal crypt
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Opulence, when my gem breaks

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Swap for 30 seconds

lusty grotto
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coin thingie is blockable

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you can easily tank a lot of the time

primal crypt
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Sweet

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Conclave

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Swap on kimbul

lusty grotto
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conclave there are 2 of them that do frontals

primal crypt
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Do I need to swap for any other guy?

lusty grotto
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so don't face your bros

primal crypt
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Never face the bros

old zephyr
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on jadefire HC we tankswapped before and after minigame

lusty grotto
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nah no need

old zephyr
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it's not a need thing, it allowed for : 1 smoothish destacking

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2 always have the tested buff for the one tanking mage longer

primal crypt
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He said NO NEED

lusty grotto
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destacking was hurting you guys?

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that's weird

primal crypt
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wait what

lusty grotto
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how many stacks were you taking

old zephyr
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3 high destack/short destack alternance for healer comfort

primal crypt
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Must have had a ton of stacks

lusty grotto
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wtf lol

primal crypt
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3 stack swap?

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Seems low as af

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Especially in HC

lusty grotto
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i mean i did jadefire with pugs and healers were more than fine, except for the last phase

primal crypt
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lol

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But you have to adjust to your raid i suppose

lusty grotto
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that reminds me

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i ran with my dh friend ML yesterday

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he invited 3 people from his guild

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healer was a chick that was complaining the whole time

primal crypt
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Yikes

lusty grotto
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let us die twice on 1st boss

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"yeah your guild's healers are trash" - so said nimchip

primal crypt
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Sang/Necrotic

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Free week bois

lusty grotto
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😦

primal crypt
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Another push week

lusty grotto
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apex week

analog swift
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How do as prot

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Intercept ranged?

primal crypt
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Thunderclap

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Thunderclap and move

lusty grotto
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excuse me sir, you misspelled 👢 🍵 👏

primal crypt
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Ez

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Shoe soup hands

lusty grotto
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intercept ranged? what is heroic leap

analog swift
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cooldowns

primal crypt
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I dont understand

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Necrotic is a joke now

analog swift
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So focused on t clap damage I forgot it slowed

mint adder
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Check who has the sliver and make an intercept macro

lusty grotto
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????

primal crypt
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What??

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Why are you guys intercepting lmao

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What for rather lol

lusty grotto
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i have no idea

analog swift
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Ugh

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Helps get distance

mint adder
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He just asked how does he intercept ranged

lusty grotto
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hello guys, have you heard of bounding stride?

analog swift
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Forgot t clapped slowed

primal crypt
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Ohhhhhh

analog swift
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I like the one with more t clap radius

lusty grotto
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both are good

primal crypt
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You dont want slow

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You want stuns

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Slows will destroy your time from sanguine

lusty grotto
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sanguine 😦

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ye

primal crypt
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Stun leap

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Use your own shockwave

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And leap away

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Or bring a paladin and use a bop cancelaura

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Or just be a dwarf...

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Ugh

vocal skiff
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So why isn't meticulous scheming not rated higher

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bad ppm?

primal crypt
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Because our prot specifics are better

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And actually worth using

vocal skiff
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Oh I understand they are good

primal crypt
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That's about it

vocal skiff
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But a constant 800+ haste seems very good as well

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But I will take the conventional wisdom and go for brace for impact

primal crypt
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Feel free to use

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Guide is just a guide

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If you like it, use it

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Also, BFI is better in raids than m+

vocal skiff
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That said, I am happy that I got lucky and received a piece with another BoM

primal crypt
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Since you hardly SS

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or SS less than you normally would

lusty grotto
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stop. overvaluing. haste.

primal crypt
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I personally like iron fortress for m+ now

lusty grotto
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"constant 800 haste", doesn't matter

primal crypt
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That block and dmg return is nice and fancy

lusty grotto
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IF on reapings does very well too

primal crypt
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Yup

narrow abyss
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And island expeditions

lusty grotto
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ohh

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yeah

narrow abyss
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😂

primal crypt
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I want DC/Gizmo, 2 bom, 2 IF

lusty grotto
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i love just soloing those

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queue hc island exp for the week's 4.... go by myself

narrow abyss
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I actually like to level peoples alts and do islands

primal crypt
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sadly cant have 3 bom :/

narrow abyss
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But only if it’s prot war

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Any other class fuck off go quest

lusty grotto
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i can yamo, cause im not engi 😃

primal crypt
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I mean I can too

lusty grotto
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lol puzzlebox

narrow abyss
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You think the engi helm is that worth?

lusty grotto
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NO YAMO NO

primal crypt
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But goggles are good

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I enjoy them

narrow abyss
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Over a third BOM?

primal crypt
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And when the cauterize works, it's top notch

lusty grotto
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i have 415 BoM/DC helm already 😃

narrow abyss
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Hate u

primal crypt
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@narrow abyss gizmo is actually pretty strong

lusty grotto
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first random roll

narrow abyss
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Which one is that again

primal crypt
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The haste/str proc

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1.5ppm

narrow abyss
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Oh ok

primal crypt
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It also gives you a speed boost

lusty grotto
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i gotta roll for shoulders today

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fuck

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im gonna bet i get sucky shoulders

primal crypt
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So it's really nice in m+

narrow abyss
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If I scrap everything I’m not wearing might have enough

primal crypt
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I have to wait another week to buy another 415 :(

narrow abyss
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Who needs a set for fury anyway

primal crypt
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Bought 3 junky ones so far

lusty grotto
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😦

primal crypt
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3 415s and not one decent one

lusty grotto
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if only mechagnome was ez to pug on mythic

narrow abyss
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That’s disgusting

lusty grotto
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its too bad mechagnome is hard enough for pugs in hc lOL

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SIR THE COLOR IS RED

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/raid warning

mortal carbon
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get the wa

narrow abyss
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Our tanks name was purp

mortal carbon
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🤷

narrow abyss
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Horrible

quartz pond
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lol

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rename to red

mortal carbon
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kek

quartz pond
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for mecha

narrow abyss
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What Wa

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I know about the whisper them the colors one and the /yell name one

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Is there another one that simplified further?

lusty grotto
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rofl

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PURPLE

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just call him Timmy

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purple, your name from now on is Timmy

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no, i didnt' say purple

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hmm burning crusade tw :\

narrow abyss
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What’s the weekly

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Turtle shit

lusty grotto
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yea

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i still don't have my glaive combo

narrow abyss
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Oh the weekly is timewalking

lusty grotto
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have 1 on 4 chars

narrow abyss
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It’s gonna be 385 cache right

lusty grotto
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my DH wants the appearance

limpid wadi
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I got both within 3 weeks
But no DH 😭

lusty grotto
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i swear i have the combo in 2 chars

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err on 4 chars

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like main hand on 2 chars

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and off hand on 2 other chars

sand egret
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sheet, i should do that as well....

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i effin'g HATE TBC timewalking dungeons tho

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"Oh you like flat armor shred?"

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"How about random, hard CC on every other mob?"

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sang and necrotic tho

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apex weeeek

narrow abyss
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Yup downloading apex after raid tonight

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Wonder if blizzard ever looks at metrics of m+ participation week to week and think this is fine

sand egret
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it's not bad, there should be harder weeks, tbh

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it's just a poopy week because as Prot, this inherently requires movement. Not a thing I like to do as Prot =/

narrow abyss
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I just hate stuff that bottlenecks pulls

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Pulling big

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Stuff like grievous I don’t mind as much. Even if it’s a pain

sand egret
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You could still pull big this week, tbh. It's just a matter of how you kite

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having massive CC as shit drop will screw you over

sick sentinel
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NEcrotic isn't hard to deal with, but it's definetly not fun dealing with it

sand egret
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but it's just a week you really need to leverage a displacement tool or two if you want to pull like usual

narrow abyss
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Just gonna have a boomkin attached to my hip

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And my healer is MW anyway so whatever

sand egret
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as long as he doesn't drop trents at like 10% mob hp

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grumbles

narrow abyss
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Hahaha

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Yup

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It’s always the first pull of the week

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“Oh right....I forgot”

astral crystal
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fort sang necrotic is pretty monkaS

sand egret
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...

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don't make me google that

astral crystal
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it's a twitch emote you can use with betterdiscord, dont bother lol

sick sentinel
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a way to make Necrotic more enjoyable would be making it dispellable and the dispell would do damage to entire group based on how many stacks were dispelled

sand egret
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what's it supposed to mean?

astral crystal
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spooky/anxiety inducing

sand egret
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ahh gotcha

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then yeah, very much so

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I actually think Necro is fine, it's the Sanguine that's a PITA

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puddles are too big, imho. I'd rather have it tick faster/stronger but have a reduced radius

sick sentinel
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Necro is definetly fine but is a chore

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time for me to do one m+ and fuck off for the rest of the week... I jusť don't have a patience to deal with it

lucid bough
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~

keen galleon
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It's not just about harder weeks, it's about how annoying it is to have your sense of progression muted by escalating difficulty week after week

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Like from a tanking perspective I've added 15 ilevels in the last 3 weeks and I'm not gonna feel any stronger than I started this week

sand egret
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I'd disagree with that statement, tbh. Even on harder weeks, your overall increase in strength will let you still take more damage, etc. How you have to deal with the dungeon changes, sure. I wouldn't say it's muted, though.

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For me it's the external factors, like dungeon geo layout

keen galleon
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I mean I'm gonna do less damage this week than I did last week, because I'm going to spend a nonzero amount of time NOT IN THE PACK.

sand egret
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that is annoying, like a sang pool taking up the whole hallyway in WM

keen galleon
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Few things feel less pleasant than running away from shit as a tank

sand egret
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sure, but that's just part of the game

narrow abyss
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I don’t mind kiting or sitting in a rop waiting for stacks to fall off personally

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But fuck sanguine

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Hell u can still clap bitches inside rop

sand egret
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^

keen galleon
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Yes? It's the part of the game I'm complaining about because it makes me feel weak/ineffective and cant be improved substantially with gear

sand egret
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Crackling Thunder value

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but i don't feel week doing that

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is my point

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weak*

keen galleon
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OK?

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It's a completely subjective position, I'm aware.

narrow abyss
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I do find it interesting that quite a few people hold that position

sand egret
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Personally, properly dealing with the mechanics presented to me, is rewarding

narrow abyss
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I never personally found it annoying but a lot of people do

vocal skiff
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I got a WM from my weekly chest

keen galleon
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I didnt roll a tank to kite, I rolled a tank to stand in the middle of everything and feel like a badass. It's one thing when a single raid encounter requires me to kite. It's different when every single key of any relevant difficulty requires it for the entire week

vocal skiff
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Not looking to do sanguine on that one

cursive yacht
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Did they rly give me a piece with dagger in the back as a tank? xD At least the other choice is BfI xD

keen galleon
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My first 5 necrotic dungeons of the week I dont mind. Because it's not an unfun mechanic to deal with. As blade says, getting a clutch stack drop off feels good. Pushing to 25 stacks to do your avatar window feels good.

quartz pond
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just make avatar clear stacks

keen galleon
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But cumulatively the overall feeling of constantly having to think about dipping from the pull wears on me

quartz pond
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having coms with a monk is also great

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for stack resets

narrow abyss
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I kinda wish some affixes were like the new gear in new raid

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Benefit but trade offs if u fuck up

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Like the dispelling necrotic but it does aoe damage sounds interesting

keen galleon
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Reaping is the perfect affix to me.

narrow abyss
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Oh 100%

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It’s so much better than infested

keen galleon
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It identifies what's fun about m+ (big fucking pulls) and adds 5 to every dungeon

strong forum
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Well mostly 4

narrow abyss
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Yeah 4

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Lol

teal kelp
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400 socket mainhand, or 410 clever ?

strong forum
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Only in some cases its 5

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400 socket

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Cleaver is garbo

keen galleon
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Gonna be honest when I farm 10-11s I dont go out of my way to avoid that 5th

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I feel like it's worth the extra minute lol

strong forum
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Well on that level you do last boss and 5th wave at the same time

old zephyr
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I am the one making the way!!!

keen galleon
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I've been trying to convince my atal group to do priestess + final reaping at same time

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Shit would be easyyyyyy

old zephyr
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we are tank warrior, we make the way.
Also sometime we deign doing mechanics

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sometimes

strong forum
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Some times we make up new mechanics vel

narrow abyss
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What fire on second boss WCM

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Idk what ur talking about

keen galleon
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"But if I stepped him into that he'd stop hitting me" qq

narrow abyss
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I just want to see how many stacks I can go

old zephyr
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last time I wen 70

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Then I had to put it in fire because tyranical

narrow abyss
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Yeah

fair flint
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Woot

analog swift
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Damn the most I’ve done is 60 on a +15

meager temple
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420 ritual bandages, how happy should i be?

old zephyr
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it was only a 12-13

oblique garnet
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@keen galleon you dont do the last reaping in atal

narrow abyss
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That’s juicy

willow scarab
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idk if i'm happy still or jealous of you

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415 butcher block with socket

lusty grotto
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I don't put tree on tire unless above 15 and tyr

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I meant: what stacks? 😂

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You should be happy cause it's 420 @meager temple lul

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Don't do drugs kids

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;)

sick sentinel
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Welp, it seems the forecast for me is showing a guild soon to die, awesome and just when I started liking mythic

lusty grotto
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Yikes you're the 2nd regular that guild dies on

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This week at least

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Late being the other

sick sentinel
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It's fucking insane

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Oh wow

keen galleon
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@oblique garnet see: I dont avoid readings in 10/11 keys

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Because they're fucking fun

lusty grotto
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Eh

daring marlin
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I got a 410 vial from my weekly

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pretty happy tbh

lusty grotto
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Gz

sick sentinel
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But is it a 415 shield with socket and indestructible

lusty grotto
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Everybody getting trinkets, I bet I get guaranteed boots for the 4th week in a row

hushed cobalt
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And I got a 410 Merektha's Fang... can't say I didnt want to try it

sick sentinel
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Damn

lusty grotto
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Indestructible shield would be 🤤

potent anvil
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my shield is indestructible deswind

lusty grotto
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Dang

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So good

warm plinth
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Nimchip is indestructible in my ❤

sharp dew
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Settle down scrub @potent anvil

lusty grotto
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Haha

sharp dew
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:p

lusty grotto
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<3

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Shots fired

potent anvil
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mighty, the best warrior tank i know deswind

lusty grotto
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Good, you don't know Chef Nimchip

sly plume
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short question. Which tier 3 traits are the best?

lusty grotto
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All according to plan

sharp dew
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I never knew you came in discord @potent anvil deswind

lusty grotto
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Icy veins guide @sly plume

hushed cobalt
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3 shell game turtle games, incoming 425 feather of plz

lusty grotto
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🤷

narrow abyss
sick sentinel
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Welp @lusty grotto seems I got ur stupid boots

prisma obsidian
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Is Iron Fortress worth it over a Bloodsport in keys like Shrine or KR. Im leaning toward swaping to Bloodsport.

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dropping the dmg smoothing of 529 block i think is a decent tradeoff in some cases

sick sentinel
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I don't like bloodsport personally but yeah it's good

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I would chose iron fortress over BS any day

warm plinth
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You're basically making the choice to lose mitigation against blockable attacks (which are still probably the majority even in high magic dungeons) but gain a bit of mitigation against magic by increasing IP size

sharp lotus
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even if you had no leach?

warm plinth
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And you're losing the damage from IF since Bloodsport has no offensive part

sick sentinel
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most of the time I overcap my IP anyway

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or it runs out

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so getting more of it does nothing other than pad the HPS meters on details

prisma obsidian
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dmg from IF seems negligible. lets put it this way. Im gonna prob have to face tank Zul today in 17 KR.

sick sentinel
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do not sleep on IF damage

primal crypt
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Iron fortress is top tier

warm plinth
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Well remember that with necrotic, IP is affected too. So actual DR is better than absorbs for this week, and just gets better as stacks rise.

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Well, to clarify, it's better than absorbs any week, but moreso this week

old zephyr
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Last stand is also affected

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don't last stand with stacks or you'll straight up lose HPs

hushed cobalt
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Fang does ~33k ST HMMMMM

sick sentinel
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A guide for this week:
Never use last stand
Never bring a disc priest
Pray

hushed cobalt
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hey hey heyyyy disc is fine!

sick sentinel
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It is, every other week

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If it wasn't for sanguine, I'd call this week a bad one for bdk

hushed cobalt
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disc is fine all the time 😿

sweet magnet
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anyone know if Impending Victory good on def if they healer isn't that great with grievous?

hushed cobalt
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usually

sick sentinel
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I wouldn't spec into IV

sweet magnet
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i dont want to lose the 15% haste but i also want to finish the key....

warm plinth
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A 20% heal on a 30 sec CD isn't going to make or break a key.

sick sentinel
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The heal is good but it's only good if u can get a good healthy amount of resets

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But then we already have VR

final mist
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You're better off sticking with ItF.

warm plinth
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You get Victory Rush regardless of speccing IV or not

sick sentinel
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Which isn't on a cd

final mist
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The heal will never save you enough for it to matter over the Haste.

sweet magnet
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thanks for the amazing reply ❤

modern brook
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If ur healer isnt great with Grevious, and you wanna finish the key

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😰

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I got bad news for ur healer

lethal spade
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What are solid strats and tips for this weeks affixs

modern brook
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Dont hold them in sanguine :^)

daring citrus
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Move, kite, having a high dps team xD

lethal spade
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Lol oh so like normal

modern brook
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You should probably kite before necro stacks get fat

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because u dont want to be stunning them when they're close to dying to start kiting

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cause thats how you make pulls take forever

sick sentinel
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Ur going to want to always be backpeddling 10-15% before an add dies

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And don't freak out with high stacks

modern brook
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^

sick sentinel
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The worst thing ANYONE can do is freakout

modern brook
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Does necro fuck IP still

sick sentinel
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Yup

modern brook
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idont remember from season 1

daring citrus
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Necro resets when out of combat, right? So if you time if correctly and trust your healer it should be guuci

modern brook
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RIP

sick sentinel
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It does reset yes

daring citrus
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Well then if you're running with a fat group you can just tunnel on dps

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Or just communicate with the healer how comfortable you both are with high stacks

sick sentinel
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Necro is manageable depending on the pulls u do, the DPS u have, and the ability to move aroud

warm plinth
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Necro is only 2% per stack now right?

sick sentinel
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I think so

modern brook
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Necro fort is pz imo

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Reaps arent sanguineable

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as in they dont drop or affected by

warm plinth
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Yeah reaps should be completely unaffected if the trend continues

modern brook
#

according to blizzard

old zephyr
#

necrotic reping would be fun though

modern brook
#

G R A V E B O L T

#

IDK this week is mostly trash manamgement

sick sentinel
#

As I think about, BoM is pretty good for this week

modern brook
#

followed by EZ bosses

sick sentinel
#

Start a fight with Max IP

modern brook
#

good temple week imo

#

we dont get many of those

quartz pond
#

and add management AKA 1st boss of TD

sick sentinel
#

Any week not tyrn is a good temple week

modern brook
#

untrue

#

but generally so

sick sentinel
#

They fixed TDs first boss

modern brook
#

3rd boss is and always was the issue

daring citrus
#

This week was kinda easy for Temple imo, Got a +17 in time

sick sentinel
#

Free from 100 stacks first 10 seconds

daring citrus
#

But it's all on the healer tbh

sick sentinel
#

That was the actual worst

modern brook
#

First boss on TD is fucking EZPZ as a warrior

#

You're basically a DK with real mitigation during it

daring citrus
#

aye

sick sentinel
#

Free VR all day

#

It's the one dungeon I spec into bigger TC instead of speed leap

#

But also, it's a whole new kind of dungeon without a rogue or keys

modern brook
#

Did my first keyless run yesterday

#

Missed timer by like a minute, mostly due to cannon man killing the team

old zephyr
#

temple was fine for me this week

modern brook
#

I triple pulled my cute patootie off

sick sentinel
#

Temple is hardest at the very start this week

#

Because of the small hallways

#

But after that, cake

modern brook
#

u can just shroud that though

sick sentinel
#

Eh

#

Yet to have a group do it correctly

modern brook
#

the rouge should sap 2 things tbh

sick sentinel
#

The rogue shouldn't be CAUGHT

modern brook
#

makes it easier on the 🐒 s

#

yeah if ur rogues a monkey ur done

#

but its like a 3 second walk u get 15s for

#

so if you take ur time its not hard to skip

sick sentinel
#

Well the dungeon is eaiser anyways, the damage nerfs to 3rd boss and making he 4th a not 4-5 min fight was great

hushed cobalt
#

dumb 385 tuskar charm. i'll never know the glory of featherdom

modern brook
#

they nerfed 3rd boss damage?

#

didnt know that'

#

temple ezpz then

#

that boss was super aids

sick sentinel
#

They nerfed his pulls damage

#

Pools*

modern brook
#

like the Raid damage?

sick sentinel
#

Nope the line

modern brook
#

ahh

#

still healing intensive then

sick sentinel
#

Which was good for me, went from taking 25 stacks to 40

modern brook
#

I just make the DH tank them lol

sick sentinel
#

Lol

modern brook
#

DID U KNOW

#

that blade dance dodges like

#

fucking everything

#

Its so busted

sick sentinel
#

Yup

modern brook
#

I just learned about this the other day

#

how come my DHs dont do this

#

Havoc is literally a better tank spec than vengeance

sick sentinel
#

What little time I did learn from playing DH I saw the light

#

I could evadr so many things

modern brook
#

I saw that and i was like cool gearing my havoc and im going to be THE GUY

#

then i vomited because playing dh

sick sentinel
#

Life responsibility, taxes

#

Death

#

All evaded with Blade dance

hushed cobalt
#

Blade Dance the big BULLET on last boss in TD? yes

modern brook
#

u can also evade the charge in KR 3rd boss

#

and im p sure the decapate dot in that fight

hushed cobalt
#

i imagine the charge on 3rd boss to be like gragas belly-dash

sick sentinel
#

Fuck evading the charge

modern brook
#

Know what really caps my rage?

sick sentinel
#

PARRY THE BITCH

#

And parry her debuff

modern brook
#

When we're fighting literally anything and i say "dont kick, i have SR"

#

pop sr

#

and they fucking kick

#

😠

hushed cobalt
#

^^^^^^^^^

warm plinth
#

kicks "What's SR?"

modern brook
#

150k damage 😠

#

just woopsed right out the window

sick sentinel
#

"What does Spell Reflect do?"

#

It's called reading u fucking knuckle dragging dipshit

warm plinth
#

You know what actually triggers me (very stupid probably) is when I say kick and people say "what's that"

modern brook
#

SR shows up as enemy friendly fire in bars right

#

?

#

the damage, rather

sick sentinel
#

Ghash, don't curse me with that knowledge

modern brook
#

Yeah people not knowing kick=interrupt is a pretty common thing ive found

#

people not knowing how interrupts work also caps my rage

lusty grotto
#

/cast Revenge

hushed cobalt
#

i took a weak aura interrupt tracker, modified it for whatever I could think of and realized... people i run with use tell me when

sick sentinel
#

What kind of people are u doing m+ with

lusty grotto
#

tellmewhen SIGH

#

lol

warm plinth
#

TellMeWhen to uninstall this addon and use the real one.

lusty grotto
#

that's a yike-rino

modern brook
#

Yikesrhino

sick sentinel
#

Wtf is tellmewhe ?

modern brook
#

imagine WA

lusty grotto
#

yikes-e-rino

warm plinth
#

It's like baby WeakAuras

modern brook
#

if it was bad

#

and didnt accomplish anything

sick sentinel
#

Oh god

modern brook
#

and was less robust

warm plinth
#

Basically it's the premade templates of WA but with like 1/10 of the options

sick sentinel
#

Wow

lusty grotto
#

imagine an addon that tells you what to press

modern brook
#

and had preprogrammed-generally outdated or otherwise incorrect rotation helps

sick sentinel
#

Wait

#

Was that the add-on that was everywhere during legion?

modern brook
#

yeah

sick sentinel
#

Holy shit

warm plinth
#

It's the AskMrRobot of addons

hushed cobalt
#

World Quest Tracker?

modern brook
#

i believe it was released in legion

hushed cobalt
#

😄

warm plinth
#

Other than the AMR addon of course

modern brook
#

its def the Ask MR Robot of addons

sick sentinel
#

Ok then I've definitely say that

modern brook
#

I had some guy ask me for prot advice

#

and he was like "ask mr robot said do this"

sick sentinel
#

Barf

modern brook
#

:^(

warm plinth
#

I would have just sighed with the amount of effort I was about to decide whether to undertake

modern brook
#

I handle it like everything else

#

"If you want to not run AM thats fine, im not going to tell you how to play. You will not be able to compete with other tanks on normal though"

#

🤷

hushed cobalt
#

Real question, not a TMW question, would it be fine to use pre 8.1 azerite pieces(if they were nicely traited) for grevious weeks cause the stam decrease/grevious stacks?

modern brook
#

IDT theres ever a reason to lower stam in recent wow

sick sentinel
#

I stopped listening to AMR when I saw it tell me that the glaive trinket from ToS was worse then the trinket from Vari in Ant

#

For Aoe

modern brook
#

😬

warm plinth
#

No. You're losing half your traits for basically nothing.

modern brook
#

^

#

you also gotta realize that grevious is only a % of ur damage

#

so the actual damage mitigated by lowering ur stam isnt going to be enough to justify lowering ur stam

warm plinth
#

Yeah you're talking about reducing your damage intake by a % of a % of your health.

modern brook
#

unless your healer really sucks shit

#

in which case

#

get a better healer

#

🤷

#

Grevious is their job

hushed cobalt
#

ok, now i'm in a pickle, did AD+11 last night, got a 395~~ warrior and his 3 azerite pieces were old school 385

modern brook
#

yours is to not stand in shit

sick sentinel
#

Probably saving azerite to buy somethibg

modern brook
#

probably doesnt raid

lusty grotto
#

why would you decrease stam cause of grievous?

modern brook
#

U wouldnt

lusty grotto
#

i dont understand the logic behind it

modern brook
#

but the thought process is that

#

Grevious is % max health damage/s

#

so less max health = less ticking damage

#

ur heals are the same ammount

lusty grotto
#

uhh.....

modern brook
#

= getting over 90% faster

hushed cobalt
#

he had a 1.1k io score so i thought it was like...not big brain......medium brain idea

lusty grotto
#

he might have a s1 score

#

did he have an asterisk?

modern brook
#

haha

lusty grotto
#

also does it matter what other people are wearing

modern brook
#

more like an ASSterisk

#

bcuz only baddies have a higher S1 than s2 at this point 💦 😓

warm plinth
#

It's one of those things that if you only look at it for .2 seconds, it might be a good idea, but then you remember how the game in general works and realize it's stupid.

primal crypt
modern brook
#

yeah its def one of those

primal crypt
#

Deswind only has 3 fingers

modern brook
#

"I'm thinking too hard" moments

primal crypt
#

3 lumps rather

warm plinth
#

Not intending to insult, sorry.

#

Exactly, it's just overthinking it

modern brook
#

Just press tc and win

hushed cobalt
#

he had 250k hp which made me think about his gear, then his azerite pieces baffled me

lusty grotto
#

well pugs happen

#

like yesterday

modern brook
#

honestly probably just an alt

lusty grotto
#

i did a /pull

#

DH didn't meta

#

kick

#

problem solved

modern brook
#

Nimkick

primal crypt
#

Nimorino

modern brook
#

whens team nimchip getting together?

lusty grotto
#

gotta go hard on pugs

modern brook
#

we gotta do a sick freehold 10

primal crypt
#

@modern brookpins

warm plinth
#

Wait, you actually burned a key because a DH didn't meta before key drop? 😂

lusty grotto
#

when Late gets off his ass and levels his NA char

#

i didn't drop the key

warm plinth
#

Oh, okay

lusty grotto
#

i kicked, looked for someone else

modern brook
#

wait why am i pins

warm plinth
#

Pull timer hit 0, no meta, /kick

#

Got it.

modern brook
#

@lusty grotto what dungeon was it

hushed cobalt
#

I have a 333 survival hunter, can I go to key pushing activities?

lusty grotto
#

listen, i had to do it

#

he was QT

modern brook
#

😬

#

invinting QT

lusty grotto
#

i just needed 1 reason other than realm

primal crypt
modern brook
#

pugged an U 10 yesterday with an azralon healer

lusty grotto
#

it was WM

warm plinth
modern brook
#

😰

lusty grotto
#

ROFL

modern brook
#

2 chested

#

so all good

#

but

#

was not excited to bein that key tbh

lusty grotto
#

yikes

#

i wish there was a BR ranking

modern brook
#

honestly one of my favorite healers to run with is RAg

lusty grotto
#

so you could pick the highest skilled QT/Az/Rag players without prejudice

modern brook
#

my only complaint is he doesnt punch stuff enough

lusty grotto
#

and when i say highest skilled

#

i mean just above the line

#

because its binary

modern brook
#

bool CanPlayClass=true

lusty grotto
#

yeah pretty much a boolean

old zephyr
#

I have Heard of something like that, based on prévious runs

#

I think It's called raid.yo or something

astral crystal
modern brook
#

score means shit until the 1400s tbh

undone sun
#

Score means shit if you never pug

sand egret
#

I only accept scores divisible by 3

#

helps me thin the herd from those scrubs

astral crystal
#

not so, thyme

#

score is meaningful when you come into a class discord to brag about it

#

Kappa

modern brook
#

^ got a point

warm plinth
#

Turtles why you no give me sea charm

sick sentinel
#

lol

warm plinth
#

Got a ring 😦 Either trinket would have been an upgrade; was just hoping for charm instead of the mastery on-use since I'm still using 2 on-use

#

Rings are both above 385 already though

sick sentinel
#

I got a 415 pulsing veins tonight 😄

#

I'm gonna wear that on my d... finger*

modern brook
#

👀

daring marlin
#

mythic champ chest

#

I came

oak heart
#

is the sea charm decent to use?

warm plinth
#

It's a good trinket, but whether to use it or not depends on your alternatives

modern brook
#

^

oak heart
#

have a 390 bwomsamdi trinket and 385 syringe as my only available trinkets atm, close to crafting an alchemist stone

warm plinth
#

Assuming your sea charm is 385 as well, I would use syringe+sea charm

#

If you got it

oak heart
#

yeah

daring marlin
#

triple BoM again

#

wew

warm plinth
#

💪

last mason
#

Any tips for tanking shrine this week

#

Seems like it’s gonna suck

vocal skiff
#

So I was doing temple

#

How to deal with that pack of elementals before the 3rd boss

#

Can you LoS them somehow to force them to move

sand egret
#

they'll jump to you

#

key is just avoiding the circles

#

@last mason get displacements/interrupts

vocal skiff
#

At least they don't apply necrotic

modest wedge
#

Finally got my rezan and i gotta say its a hell of a boost. Normally i peak at 80-90kdps on reaping now it peaked at 100

#

And averages to 60kdps

mental scarab
#

Do the ”yellow” mobs give bursting? Cant renember

primal crypt
#

Going back to triple bom and 400s

#

415s without bom is ass tier

warm plinth
#

Yellow mobs?

vocal skiff
#

neutral

modest wedge
#

They dont bolster other than other yellow

primal crypt
#

Bursting

modest wedge
#

And ludwig wont bolster from anything

primal crypt
#

Not bolster

modest wedge
#

Aaaaaa

primal crypt
#

And yes

modest wedge
#

Sry

primal crypt
#

They burst

#

Everything bursts

lavish oracle
primal crypt
#

Bursting is one of the roughest

#

After 5 stacks, especially since they buffed it

#

It's very likely a full wipe

modest wedge
#

Either u kill all at the same time or you take your pick

daring marlin
#

today

dim blaze
#

well rip

daring marlin
#

feelsgoodman

dim blaze
lavish oracle
#

Nice

primal crypt
#

Thats a good one

#

Lmao

#

Jes

#

Lel

#

With socket

#

410

#

Can't not use it

#

Kek

daring marlin
#

sucks to suck\

#

mang

primal crypt
#

Sucks to suck

#

2 min cd

#

Lul

daring marlin
#

I think I'm gonna roll vial/anchor for now

lavish oracle
#

Yeah, I'm a little dubious on Howler because of the 2 minute CD

#

Still a nice trinket, just feels bad to use to me

dim blaze
#

would you guys use 410 socket howler over 400 rezan or 400 vial?

primal crypt
#

Nah

modest wedge
#

Rezan vial

#

My pick

primal crypt
#

Would stay with the rezan and vial

warm plinth
#

Same

lavish oracle
#

I think it might be worth using over Vial

primal crypt
#

Personally?

dim blaze
#

I mean in M+ it doesn't seem bad to buff my whole group on big pulls

lavish oracle
#

Just because of the socket

primal crypt
#

I'd prob switch to jes

#

Because i run double rogue

#

And at 410 it would be worth it

#

But you HAVE to pop that trinket on CD

#

to maximize the uses

idle monolith
#

I have Jes' macro'd into Avatar

undone vale
#

so question, does necrotic just destroy us or am i just playing poorly

primal crypt
#

I had to take it off macro

#

To make sure all 5 people were in range

#

Otherwise it's a waste

#

Necrotic is a nonissue for us now

dim blaze
#

I've never tanked on necrotic week

primal crypt
#

This weak is a push week

dim blaze
#

How high should i stack

primal crypt
#

Ez keys

dim blaze
#

before kiting

lavish oracle
#

So here's my question since I haven't tried it, what's the point of macroing it to Avatar? the CDs don't line up that well

primal crypt
#

I got up to about 35 stacks

#

Before rolling out

#

20 stacks is decent

#

Gives enough time to get some aggro

warm plinth
#

A lot of people macro trinkets to Avatar for convenience and because they want the buff during that period. Jes is just not one of the trinkets you want to do what with.

vocal skiff
#

I was destroyed by necrotic somehow

#

Maybe the healer sucked

primal crypt
#

40+ stacks will destroy you

#

But doable lol

vocal skiff
#

I was trying to kite at around 11-12

idle monolith
#

I don't have a problem waiting for people to be in range. I also have a second non-macro'd avatar. Works fine for me

vocal skiff
#

Small room for kiting in some places + mobs that won't be slowed down

#

It was very tricky for me

primal crypt
#

Yeah

#

This week is a test your tanking week

warm plinth
#

I mean, 11 or 12 stacks is still healable pretty easily. That's what, 22-24% less healing which isn't crazy.

primal crypt
#

Anyone can thunderclap

#

But kiting out of sanguine while managing necrotic

lavish oracle
#

Aaaand I got a KR 15 this week. This is penance for my good Azerite luck

primal crypt
#

It's a practice your skills week

vocal skiff
#

Then I shall welcome the challenge

primal crypt
#

Just remember, every second mobs stand in sanguine

#

You're wasting time

modern brook
#

I mean on the real

vocal skiff
#

Do you folks pull big even in this week?

primal crypt
#

I pull massive this week

modern brook
#

you're probably kiting like a monkey

vocal skiff
#

Most likely

#

lol

lavish oracle
#

depends on my team comp

modern brook
#

turning your back is a good way to die as prot

lavish oracle
#

if I manage to get a balance druid, yeah, big pulls

primal crypt
#

Big pulls regardless

modern brook
#

I've never seena druid use trees correctly during sanguine

primal crypt
#

This the week to do it

fresh valley
#

this is going to be my first time tanking necrotic/sanguine. i'm going to hate everything aren't i?

primal crypt
#

Yes

#

If it's your first time

vocal skiff
#

It is my first time as well

primal crypt
#

A lot of people this week will do a 10 and call it quits

#

It's one of those weeks

fresh valley
#

i run with 2 druids and a monk, i'm just gonna let them deal with the sanquine

primal crypt
#

Alt week many say

fresh valley
#

#carrymeplox

primal crypt
#

Sanguine is your job

modern brook
#

^

primal crypt
#

Not theirs

modern brook
#

this week is ur job

primal crypt
#

This is tank week

modern brook
#

if ur pugging as dps you wont find a tank by thursday

lavish oracle
#

I actually like Sanguine/Necrotic week because most of the work is done by the tank; I don't have to worry about DPS missing orbs or the healer forgetting to top me off so I don't get 4 stacks

fresh valley
#

ahhhh fine, i'll actually play the game well 😦

modern brook
#

just use the walk move

#

u'll be fine

primal crypt
#

Just dont be a weak tank

#

This is the week to shine

#

Katy Perry that shit

#

Like a plastic bag

fresh valley
#

lol i'm inspired now

modern brook
#

in the immortal words of my friend bunz when we were playing CSGO

#

dude just be good

vocal skiff
#

One thing that I have felt from doing this temple run is that there is an even greater need to plan your pulls

#

so you don't get reaping in a bad time

primal crypt
#

Learn to utilize MDT

vocal skiff
#

Yeah

primal crypt
#

it will help you tremendously

daring marlin
#

FUCK MAN

modern brook
#

^ Reaping is handled before u get in the key tbh

daring marlin
#

going from the 385 to 415

#

so much hp

#

insane

modern brook
#

every reap should be done in a spot you can LoS casters to

primal crypt
#

Did you just buy your first 415 @daring marlin?

daring marlin
#

nah second

#

but

modern brook
#

still 30ilvls 😮

primal crypt
#

Good luck on both?

#

I got a IF/BFI

daring marlin
#

I replaced my engi helm with it cuz it had BoM and IF and I'll use the engi helm for fury

primal crypt
#

and lost my bom

fresh valley
#

should i roll the dice on a 415 helm, or wait till i can upgrade my engineering helm to 415?

daring marlin
#

got mythic champ chest finally lol

primal crypt
#

Im crossing my fingers

modern brook
#

do u have 415 chest and shoulders?

primal crypt
#

For tonight

fresh valley
#

i do have 415 chest and shoulders

modern brook
#

do u like them?

primal crypt
#

I have 415 in all slots

#

But the traits are low tier

fresh valley
#

yeah, they're pretty good

primal crypt
#

1 bom.

modern brook
#

im 400 in everything with 3x bom :^)

#

415 shoulders

primal crypt
#

Like....wtf

modern brook
#

get rekt idiot

primal crypt
#

I know :(

modern brook
#

then yeah go for it 🤷

#

or u can save for bis

#

doesnt really matter

primal crypt
#

But ill keep engi helm

modern brook
#

Ilvl> everything fam

primal crypt
#

I like shrinking randomly in dungeons

#

And zipping around

#

Plus cauterize

#

Is nice

daring marlin
#

yeah man

modern brook
#

im hoping i can convince my guild to do mythic champ tonight

fresh valley
#

i run 1x tc, 2x bom, 1x blood sport, 1x IF

daring marlin
#

engi helm is definitely useful lol

modern brook
#

cause finding pugs for it is annoying

daring marlin
#

I'm a dwarf so shrinking in dungeons is already hilarious

#

imagine being a goblin like yamo

primal crypt
#

It's great

fresh valley
#

for the engineering helm, which defensive trait do you take? the haste or 5% reduced damage?

primal crypt
#

Gizmo haste

daring marlin
#

RNG op

primal crypt
#

That's what makes you tiny

daring marlin
#

tbh all the secondary traits for the helm seem good lol

primal crypt
#

They are

#

They all have high uptime

supple path
#

Woo, sea-brawler's great-helm from my random 415 azerite. BoM/DC/Globules, IF YOU INSIST game.

primal crypt
#

Globs lul

supple path
#

Shimmering haven / earthlink = luller

sick sentinel
#

glOMEGALULbules

primal crypt
#

OMEGALUL

sick sentinel
#

I'd rather get earthlink

#

over globules

primal crypt
#

GLULBULES

supple path
#

I primarily do m+

primal crypt
#

LUL

sick sentinel
#

yeah same

primal crypt
#

Earthlink yeah

#

Even shimmering haven has a place in m+

#

Not the best, but ive gotten a lot of use on it

supple path
#

not a good one.

primal crypt
#

For tyrannical

supple path
#

I mostly do 10s for guildmates, have zero survivability concerns.

#

And globules get rated a lot higher on damage.

dim blaze
#

How many stacks is safe on necrotic before I start kiting?

sick sentinel
#

on sims where targets dont die, yes

thorny pumice
#

I'm not sure if any of you guys would be able to help with this? My raid group was reviewing logs on heroic Jaina and we noticed that our warrior tank had like 10 dispels of windwalking. I know that's the monk run speed increase but nobody knew why it was happening?

supple path
#

avatar

#

will chain dispel windwalking in logs

primal crypt
#

Avatar breaks roots

thorny pumice
#

Cool. Thank you!

supple path
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I've used it once and gotten 6 dispels for it, it's weird.

primal crypt
supple path
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It doesn't seem to actually do anything, purely a log irregularity.

sick sentinel
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most often globules will proc twice and then the target will die

primal crypt
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Glob dmg is pitiful :(

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Especially in keys

supple path
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you mean proc 4 times because I totally have two pieces.

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(the other is a choice vs earthlink + strength in numbers)

modern brook
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wait are we unironically considering globs?

sick sentinel
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run some dungeons with them and if they do more than 2% of your damage I will be surprised

strong hill
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Ya avatar makes it go away. Our monks thought I was clicking wind walking off

sick sentinel
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earthlink is a lot better IMO

modern brook
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earthlink actually provides value so

supple path
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Yeah, I've got a couple pieces where earthlink is the only other real contender.

primal crypt
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Even str in numbers

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Defensive

supple path
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Yeah, again, I have no defensive issues in the keys I run, this is a pure dps consideration.

primal crypt
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Then prob earthlink

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Globs barely breaks 1%

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If that

supple path
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Does more than that for me.

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But I don't have like, logs handy.

primal crypt
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Did they ninja buff globs?

modern brook
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probably not

supple path
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It'd have to be representing about 20% of the damage bloodmallet is suggesting to be 1% though.

primal crypt
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Rip

modern brook
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your anecdotal evidence is stronger than his anecdotal evidence because your anecdotal evidence is also my anecdotal evidence, @primal crypt

primal crypt
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Ill prob test them again in the future

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But i remember my logs showing barely 1%

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So I ditched them

supple path
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Lemme go flail on a target dummy for a few minutes to get a ballpark

sick sentinel
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again

modern brook
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shrug

supple path
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where are they in this horrible trolltown again?

modern brook
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wont be releveant

sick sentinel
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training dummy do not say anything

primal crypt
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Target dummy dont work

sick sentinel
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especially if you are doing 10s

supple path
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Earthlink won't be relevant either, they're both tiny traits

sick sentinel
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because our point is

modern brook
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If globs are giving u real damage your DPS is fucking sleeping

sick sentinel
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that enemies will die

modern brook
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they suck cause they dont pop ever

sick sentinel
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before you get 3 stacks

primal crypt
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Need better random rng

supple path
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First off - my dps absolutely sleep.

primal crypt
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If you can pop the globs

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Go for it lol

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I cant get them to pop

sick sentinel
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LOL

supple path
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I do mythics with me + a healer friend and we pug dps, so we get some bad ones a looooot

primal crypt
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I remember my jaina trinket blowing them out of the water

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And respecced

supple path
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Let's see what % of my damage two of them represent in this daily heroic I'm doing for the loot bag for in need tanks, hah.

modern brook
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if u break 1% I will give u a dollar

primal crypt
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Lol

sick sentinel
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brb respeccing to globules Kappa

primal crypt
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If it doesnt break 2% at two trait stacks, yikes

modern brook
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ona heroic?

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as warrior?

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shit dies in like 4 globals

primal crypt
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Wait a minute

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I wonder

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If worth

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