I love it when you have a game in steam but its made by ubisoft so when you launch it from steam you need to log in to your uplay and launch it from there 8)
#protection
oblique garnet
dense flame
hahahah we should get die by the sword 😃 parry everything get die by sword shield wall last stand
outer dew
That would be bad for us
DBTS would be too strong of a CD so we'd have to be brought in line some ridiculous way
warm plinth
Yeah. Besides, if we were to get another DR CD (for some non-existing reason), I'd want it to be useable for magic.
oblique garnet
”Shield block now works on magic”
”Cries of the leftover thousand dks echoes” ”Nerf prot”
warm plinth
lol
hardy vault
Hey guys i recently started tankning on offspec. What traits do i try to go for ?
hardy vault
okay thanks alot
fathom magnet
is booming voice the clearcut talent for m+? or can a case be made for devastator?
hollow thorn
Booming Voice is the clearcut talent for pretty much every situation
and definetly M+
cobalt turret
I've heard prots like haste
hollow thorn
grizzled steeple
is the Lingering Sporepods trinket worth using or should I just stick with Rezan / Jes, all 400ilvl
oblique garnet
@hollow thorn ??? what
hollow thorn
Mythic Mekka trink xd
oblique garnet
niceone
thin ore
Is there a notable difference for us on conclave hc vs mythic?
daring patrol
you and pa'ku will be doing the dirty dance most of the fight
and you get to scream at your decursers
pastel holly
which traits to you like most for myth+? 1x clap and then whatever or are you focussing on "amount of trait XY" next to the clap one?
ebon hound
3x BoM
vocal nimbus
3x BoM
ebon hound
highfive
vocal nimbus
highfive
undone sun
👏
vocal nimbus
👏
limpid wadi
How does shield block excactly work?
undone sun
increases your block for the duration of the ability
limpid wadi
And 126% Block Chance means that you block every melee attack?
undone sun
yeah, % past 100% is meaningless since it doesn't factor into blocked damage iirc
SB just increases your block to guarantee blocks while it's active
granted you're facing the target, and it's physical
limpid wadi
So any non physical dmg from melee hits gose through?
And whats with projectiles?
undone sun
projectiles are included, it's a relatively recent addition
ranged attacks are blockable
meaning archer type enemies that auto cast physical
there have been more than a couple instances where you could block shadow damage
sick sentinel
throw rock
undone sun
but it's a case by case basis
sick sentinel
dies
cold owl
Dying to rock throwers is always a great time.
strong hill
^ fortified trash in neths layer back in legion.
amber siren
not kiting rock throws in 2017/2018 😩 👌
oblique garnet
throw wrench
strong hill
Lol @amber siren I remember doing a pug m+ and kitting the pelters. One of the dps and I quote “ you can do that???”
sick sentinel
At least you would shockwave the wrench
amber siren
honestly i just miss warlock corruption slow ring
i mean it was broekn
but i miss it
thin ore
Oh man I can't decide between IV and gemhide. I do mostly mythic raiding and my gear is pretty decent (408). What do?
probably doesn't matter either way right?
thin ore
hm
when is the first boss that hits really really hard?
rasthakan maybe?
we are at conclave
lucid bough
IV is?
thin ore
and so fart I never felt in danger
lucid bough
oh insp visage
sick sentinel
IV is 1k hps when you were constantly getting hit
thin ore
which you are not in raid
lucid bough
Very small
thin ore
150 or sth
sick sentinel
That's 4%
thin ore
4% avoidance in raid is pretty nicü
sick sentinel
Do we have a sheet where we can see what damage is reduced by avoidance?
thin ore
maybe @gaunt dawn
thin ore
Although the whole point of gemhide is a quasi perma armor plus and for most fights, the dmg profile is mostly physical (for tanks).
at least that's how I understood it why it is so aweomse for every tank.
gaunt dawn
D:
sick sentinel
Wait, we don't?
undone sun
doubtful
sick sentinel
Is there a way to make one just be looking at logs?
Maybe I can contribute to the community since I have time
undone sun
i don't think it's as cut and dry, i'd imagine you'd have to compare with and without avoidance
but even then it'd be at most a 20% difference
sick sentinel
@thin ore marok places Gemhide over IV in the icy veins guide and it written for raids
So I would go with gemhide
primal crypt
Yeah, gemhide is really solid choice
cold owl
If there was an avoidance spreadsheet it would sit right next to the SR/Block sheet on my bookmarks.
open field
Guys little question. So I have Pvp trinket that gives on use Vers with a socket 385 and Briny Barnacle 415. I am farming Rezans if I get it on 400 what should I remove?
quasi pagoda
Would u take a 370shield with socket or just a 375 shield?
open field
More Ilvl I think
modern pulsar
Do you guys use threatplates or tidyplates? What's best and any recommendations for setup?
Tried KuiNameplates and didn't like it
hollow thorn
CR or Bloodsport for M+ 🤔
sick sentinel
@open field use 415 briny / 400 rezan
open field
@sick sentinel Ok ty
sick sentinel
@quasi pagoda 375, always go highest ilvl on your shield
narrow abyss
Agree briny rezan. 375 shield. Highest ilvl. Shield a huge component of your survivability probably best pound for pound best defensive upgrade in any slot
Idk I like bloodsport personally
quasi pagoda
Alright, i suppose its back to grinding atal
open field
Yeah
narrow abyss
It’s really a good place to farm in general. Think 4 things there are really good
open field
Weapon shield trinket
quasi pagoda
Yeah i just got the weapon and it has a socket so its great
narrow abyss
Haste mastery gloves haste vers ring and best weapon shield and rezan
quasi pagoda
Now i just need the shield
sick sentinel
@hollow thorn even a single CR pushes Revenge push to my second highest damage source in overall
hollow thorn
not bad
open field
What's better Gemhide or Bury the Hatchet
hollow thorn
Gemhide
potent anvil
Deattu in protection channel 🤔
undone sun
sly plume
hwo do you play second boss underrot? I get so much dmg in there on 10
lusty grotto
SR when he vomits, that's it
if people aren't stepping on ticks = bad group = you can't tank those bleeds
sand egret
its also possible to dodge the indegestion completely
lusty grotto
its a very last minute dodge
sand egret
eh
lusty grotto
i just tank it fuck it
sand egret
helps during post-tantrum
when people be running about and he’s running back to you
it’s an option tho
sand egret
well that and ticks are really the only big source of damage haha
lusty grotto
so im thinking its ticks
lusty grotto
yeah betting on it
sly plume
yeah I sw first indigestion
final dove
You can walk out of the indigestion as well, just run as it winds up, don't even need leap
sand egret
i just like dodging it on my bear since feel cool hitting myself with a 120k swiftmend during it 😎
sharp lotus
He traces you though right?
sand egret
laterally yes
sly plume
@final dove ah didnt know that
sand egret
he stops moving tho
sharp lotus
yeah
final dove
Just strafe straight back from him and you outrange it
sand egret
so if you run directly back you outrange the cone
undone sun
how often does he cast it, ez leaps
sharp lotus
was just going to intercept heals so I dont stretch them thin instead of leaping
sand egret
yeah thats often the move if you’re comfortable with the run-move
unless the heals is directly behind you
but then if they get charged your melee is just chasing
final dove
Btw, any tips for high keys of 3rd boss in ML? Doesn't seem like you can block anything, just reflect every 2nd DoT and spam IP/+CD when you burn, chunks you down super hard
final dove
Ya I got that much, but the DoT applies every 20sec so you can't game every application from my experiance
final dove
Better to take it on griev tho, so the healer doesn't have to churn 2 targets?
sand egret
other than that yeah she hits hard with magic damage so just pump IP
sand egret
if you have a DK they can ams it, a DH in meta can prob leech thru it, but yeah that’s gonna be some stress this week for sure
final dove
Best solution I found was have my lock get an imp and dispel the 2nd DoT
lusty grotto
i like locks on these affixes
lusty grotto
BR + healthstone 😄
final dove
Problem is most locks rolling demo for the burst aoe so they cut into the dps :/ Was lusting as well for her just to get it down
lusty grotto
and those gate skips of course
final dove
Yeah the shroud into gate on ML is pretty sweet
lusty grotto
hm
sand egret
yeah, guess you gotta weigh the tradeoffs
final dove
Mm, I mean with bon being an affix you still put a lot of the total % dmg into aoe, even on bolster, so idk
sand egret
demo can pump haaard
lusty grotto
yeah
final dove
Its just not a great demo dungeon, all bosses can force movement and 2 are 100% to
sand egret
shadow priests can also dispel both 😃
final dove
But yeah, just frustrating to have a unblockable boss :/
O right, not had any priests in my party so far
Good point
sharp lotus
dont groups normally run rogue/priest with prot warr tank for that boss?
sand egret
yeah its a particularly annoying boss for us. if she casted it 5 seconds later tho....ez clap
i mean, not everyone has the full roster to choose from 😃
sharp lotus
i figure people pushing high keys did tbh
sand egret
generally they have their group
final dove
The run I did was just a inhouse guild run, nothing like a high push
sand egret
shadow is perty strong in general
final dove
SP is pretty beast RN yeah
sand egret
esp this week with bolster
sharp lotus
Because from my understanding this week that boss rolls 17+ keys
final dove
We got through it but it was really touch and go, especially if DPS caught the AoEs
sharp lotus
idk why I chose 17 but I am sticking with that number
sand egret
sounds like a case where your dps has to ensure the healer can babysit you
via good play
sharp lotus
speaking of ML, does anyone use the strat where you get absurd % before the first boss? I think I saw people getting above 80% of their mob requirement
Is it worth doing if you are only pushing keys a few levels above 10?
final dove
Yeah, what you do is essentially deathrun from 2nd to 3rd, and 3rd to 4th boss
So you get around 88-95% pre-2nd boss
In my experience around 67% before 1st boss is fine, and you blow hero on the first pack/s so you get it again for 1st boss
You can do less if you want to shroud up and do the last pack before the 4th boss, but the bombs bolster so its a PitA this week
sick sentinel
yo
if you kill the engineer
in SoB
with the spotter
can you just kill the boss with the circles
final dove
Afaik if you kill the engineer it's a reset
sick sentinel
like drop the circles on the boss
they deal like 1 mil damage each
it damages the tentacles
you can kill the gripping terror with it
final dove
You can use it for tentacles, but I think if you ran into the water to hit the boss you'd get stunned by tentacles before you got to far
sick sentinel
travel form
final dove
Maybe with a gateway into the water or something, never tried it myself
sick sentinel
you can travel form
final dove
Its 1/5 to go on the druid tho, unless you are stacking the group?
sick sentinel
if everyone else goes out of range
final dove
Also, if you just plan the damage properly you dont need to kill the engineers do you? They give you 33% boss hp per shot
sick sentinel
well if you do
final dove
Idk if it'd hit/damage the boss, same reason you don't just multidot/kill it with ranged dps
If you find it does, please let us know 😃
sick sentinel
you can put dots on it, like agony etc for affli lock
or flame shock for ele
but I get what you mean
final dove
In example, looking through logs of SoB in WCL, there's no "damage" instances at all to the last boss, he just loses 33% via a health-removal mechanic from the shots
Same with DoTs, you do it for tentacles but I don't think he takes damage from them (?)
At least there's no instances of it over 3 logs I just skimmed
final dove
Wanted to check it out to see his total HP pool, but can't gauge it from logs since he never takes any actual damage
boreal summit
is diamond laced good for prot
guide says yes but just so i can prove to retard friends
honest canopy
Idd
Killed Opulence HC 9 times and 9 in normal
spent them coins
NOT GETTING IT
never seen it drop in any kill either
Now I am doing the same on my druid
Same story
halcyon nacelle
can shields titanforge from m+?
silk mortar
It isnt possible
ivory swallow
Can WF up to 10ilvls tho
daring marlin
Good thing the first boss drops a great shield in mythic. 😃
grizzled fog
Any tips for the pack before totem boss on atal
grizzled fog
As in skip it?
grizzled fog
Cus that shits been wiping me no matter how I approach it, unless if I stack ccs but feels like it takes too much time
wintry furnace
The one with two big mobs? If you cant skip it, I make sure to get the stalkers first, then CC one hexer, pull them back, kill the other hexer, then kill totem and one after the other, while using cds. But I dont know if that would work on super high keys. I haven't gone up that far.
lusty grotto
if you don't have a rogue, simply pull it to the left while your group runs in and die
get rezzed, hope nobody pulls it while on the boss
then to get out do the same thing
grizzled fog
I see, thanks.
outer oriole
375 Ritual feather of Unng Ak or do I use Merektha´s Fang 415 ? Secondary trinket is 400 Rezan trinket
sick sentinel
it's more efficient to just run around it on the way in
you don't need anyone to die
outer oriole
use effect is garbage though, the extra strength worth it ?
its around 130 extra strength
last mason
Would it be accurate to say that, any damage that gets by sb, ip, and sr (outside of cds) is the healer’s responsibility?
Not taking into account things like kiting
sand egret
restoring health is a healers job, yeah
avoiding/mitigating it to the best of your abilities is yours 😃
undone sun
since warrior is almost entirely proactive rather than reactive, yes
sand egret
true, those weird other tanks stealing healers jorbs!
full furnace
prot or blood for m+?
sand egret
youre in the prot discord mate
bright pagoda
2 weeks now and no emote, scripts are false,true. no idea what i missing or just bad RNG. every other class thats had a similar hidden skin to this, after 7.3.5 most of them were oibtained easily within 1-3 days
i read the stone once, im in prot spec.
strong hill
The prot skin from the cavern ??
undone sun
yeh
strong hill
I’m going go with maybe bad rng
undone sun
very, very likely
hmm, now that i think of it... the only prerequisite in legion was Artifact knowledge 5
strong hill
I got mine on the 2nd try , walked to the entrance “ you hear something “ walked around a few mins and got it
undone sun
considering that doesn't carry over for bfa ¯_(ツ)_/¯
final mist
You have it automatically; Outlaw Rogue requires AK5 and I had no trouble farming the two pieces.
Just unluck.
@bright pagoda Is the script you're running for teh two quests?
bright pagoda
yeah ive been running both scripts
both usually show false, then when i enter the cave w/ no emote, it goes to false,true
final mist
If it's returning "False, True", that means it hasn't spawned. The script checks the first quest to see if it's spawned, the second to see if you failed the spawn check.
It'll spawn if they return "True, False"
You're just unlucky, keep trying. Nothing you can do.
bright pagoda
yeah, i just cant believe its so crazy hard, this is going on just over 2 weeks
final mist
I know some people had to wait months.
I had to wait about 2 months for the Feral appearance, checking daily.
bright pagoda
ill come back along in a few days i suppose, im not entirely sur eill even use that skin, i didnt see a lot i liked. i mainly wanted it to unlock the other skins using the trick
yeah see i did mage, feral and i think another during ABT and they were all within a day or 3
druid was 3rd day, mage was first day soon as research completed
final mist
Just luck. You have a 50% chance of it rolling either way.
bright pagoda
it just felt like in 7.3.5+ the rates of that stuff were increased greatly
final mist
You have a rather large chance of it rolling in your favor, that's why. 50/50.
bright pagoda
ive been camping him at thunder totem, fly over. buti dunno when i hear the emote even though it doesnt matter where. cause ive heard people taking flight path in and getting in
final mist
It doesn't matter which entrance you go into, but the script will only check the second quest if you're at the entrance (just after the zone changes to Neltharion's Vault).
If you're outside, it won't work.
bright pagoda
yea i guess il just finihs off to 120, gonna get todays invasion buff victory, drink a draught, and spam a dozen IEs and ding 120, equip my gear. run some heroics to replace my 360 weapons, not sure min ilvl on lfr draz
sleek roost
Yo can someone point me in the direction of a m+ prot tanking guide
as in for general rotation and ability useage, tanked with DH at 1.5k io but new to warrior
sturdy sable
Well as a warrior your more tanky without block up then DH is with spikes
At least in my experience prot feels tankier
sharp lotus
@sleek roost https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-rotation-cooldowns-abilities written by marok
sick sentinel
also check out #268491842637660160 in general
sleek roost
Awesome, thanks!
vocal skiff
Can you backpeddle Cragmaw's indigestion in UR or only heroic leap to dodge it
primal steeple
is icy-veins what we got for guides. IV has not been reliable in the past
undone sun
yup, they got new writers for BFA
marble cipher
forest vapor
Arms warrior here, but I'm trying to start building a Prot set to be able to switch and stuff when needed or when I get bored. Currently 396 arms, traits all locked in, no 1H or shields lying around in my bank.
I feel it would be ideal for me to build a new set, but Im going to have to take a ilvl hit then rebuild it back up
Any advice on maybe what lvl mythic+ lvls are good to start on as a somewhat new tank would be helpful, ty
daring marlin
10s should be fine assuming you understand what pulls are appropriate. It's pretty hard to fail a 10 of any key that isn't a select few.
As long as you don't forget about reaping lol
Sometimes I do and tragedy happens.
forest vapor
Gotcha, yeah I'll have to be mindful of that
sick sentinel
whats reaping?
forest vapor
M+ affix new to season 2 I think, some mobs come back from the dead basically
vapid rapids
Every 20% trash killed they spawn
trim bay
Is it worth stacking 3 brace for impacts? Or am I wasting a trait on the third? What’s everyone’s thoughts. I’m talking more raids not mythics as bastion of might is more important
warm plinth
@forest vapor Important to note that what level dungeons you will be able to tank comfortably will strongly depend on what ilevel your shield is. The higher level your shield is, the more damage is mitigated every time you block. You could be 395 and if you have a 320 shield, you're still gonna get hit pretty hard.
forest vapor
Yeah, as a blacksmith I was wondering if I should just craft the 340 to start as quickly as possible then hitting some low keys or something for practice
Or just changing loot spec till I get a better one running through something as arms
warm plinth
Yeah 340 should be fine to start with, but 10+ you will likely start feeling it with a shield that low. I'd shoot for a 380+ if you want to start doing any serious pushing.
forest vapor
Okay cool, thanks, I appreciate all the info I can get
warm plinth
@trim bay It's fine to stack 3 BfI. It's a strong trait and it stacks so it's not a waste. A lot of people are using BoM in raids at this point as well. 3x BoM, 1x DC and 2x BfI would be a good setup. If you're more interested in defense/survival traits, you could go for Iron Fortress or Bloodsports as well.
warm plinth
That's true
primal crypt
3 BoM, 1 DC, 2 IF
warm plinth
But then we just drop claps like a fuckton 😉
warm plinth
Yeah IF is better than BfI for M+, but he was speaking about raids primarily
asking about raids*
primal crypt
Oh yeah, raid Id run the BFI
trim bay
Ahhh yes. For mythic plus. That does makes sense. But over all In a raid sense
primal crypt
im even considering dropping 1 BoM
trim bay
Sucks re picking traits every time I jump to a mythic
primal crypt
To keep engineer helmet
warm plinth
Yeah I mean it depends on what traits you're running and the level of keys you're doing. If you're just doing 10s I wouldn't really bother swapping traits every time you do a dungeon.
It'll be a nice difference especially if you're going from 0 BoM to 3x BoM, but you can do the dungeon just fine without it
You're just sacrificing that beefy avatar window
And BfI isn't worthless in dungeons; it's just less effective in AoE situations than IF because you aren't slamming as much in AoE.
primal crypt
Yeah, im at the point where I really want to start min-maxing
18s are proving to take forever
warm plinth
If you want them to go faster, just trash talk your DPS and ask them why they're being outDPSed by the tank 😏
primal crypt
Its funny because theyre out dpsing me now :(
warm plinth
RIP
primal crypt
My outlaw rogue is bursting 350k
warm plinth
Tank spec being put back in its place
primal crypt
Consistently
warm plinth
We're gonna be back to Legion numbers by the end of the expansion at this rate lol.
primal crypt
Yup
sand egret
i was thinking about this today: how are hp pools scaling vs dps per tier?
old zephyr
Last tier, high gear people wer epulling 100kish DPS with 190k hps
this tier it's 220k hps for 200+k DPS
be we can do much bigger pull now as well
shell pulsar
What are the go to azerite powers now that we have two rings to choose from? Whats worth stacking?
distant meadow
When you're talented with Bolster and it "blocks all melee attacks", does it include the mobs you aren't targetting? Or just the one that you're targetting currently?
distant meadow
Ok. But I thought if you were going to block something you had to be targetting the mob thats attacking you?...I'm still learning prot warrior lol
sturdy sable
You just have to have what ever is attacking you be in front of you
undone sun
^ you just have to be face the target
distant meadow
Gotcha. Thanks yall!
errant oriole
hey guys
is best served cold any good vs the other 2?
i know unstoppable force is the go to talent
but im just curious
undone sun
very unlikely, with Deafening crash being a thing it's hard to beat
undone sun
then you should rethink your decisions
errant oriole
lol
so with defeaning crash i should use shout then avatar then spam clap?
i only have one thing of defeaning crash does the dmg on that trait just stack?
vocal nimbus
read the guides that you can find at #268491842637660160
all the info is there
and yes, stacking deaf crash only increases damage
calm root
hey guys. is magic damage the weakness of prot war? Just went through Motherlode+13 and was getting enormous damage from 3rd and last bosses magic attacks.
astral crystal
yeah magic dmg can wreck us, just be judicious with IP, personals and externals
13 shouldn't pound you hard enough to be undoable
also you can spell reflect every other dot
calm root
ye i survived. it's just that damage intake was extremely smooth during the run - apart from these 2 bosses. I guess i need to memorize more spells that can be reflected
thanks
warm plinth
Yeah, last boss of Motherlode is the worst because all the damage you're taking is magic or unblockable. Shield Block is really only helpful for the damage increase on that fight, so if you need more rage to spend on IP, you can sacrifice some Shield Block casts since it's not helping defensively anyway. And as Atticus said, you should be using SR basically on cooldown because it will completely mitigate his "auto attack". The only time you need Shield Block up is if you get targeted by Drill Smash. Face the boss and put up SB to block it.
vocal nimbus
Those two bosses autoattacks are magic so its unblockable
merry cave
Just don't use sblock on those two
remote tusk
does Reckless Flurry work for Protection and procs of Devastator?
sick sentinel
it does work with melee attacks
warm plinth
It works for our regular auto attack damage. Highly doubt it would work for Devastator procs; that being said, you shouldn't be using Devastator anyway.
supple path
Ugh man, third boss on motherlode is my personal challenge right now. Trying to get my reaction time fast enough to only spell reflect when he's targeting me with dot, but that is a fast f'ing cast.
warm plinth
Well, the extra devastator damage, that is. I'm pretty sure it is a separate thing, rather than just increased AA damage.
undone sun
correct
warm plinth
Is there a timer for the DoT? Might be better to just use SR when she's about to cast it. Best case, you get the reflect, worst case, you reduce some of her auto attack damage.
remote tusk
ok cause i saw it was using on mythic jaina, just curious
warm plinth
Someone was using Reckless Flurry? Or Devastator?
undone sun
for damage, it's competitive on pure st
errant oriole
oh but rage regen wise it blows
lofty drum
I downloaded the WA that some guy made for tracking spell refelct but i dont see it popping up
do i have to enable it somehow?
Marok was the creator
warm plinth
Yes, @errant oriole. And note Thyme said "pure" ST. Any additional targets would negate its advantage, and you lose all the rage generation you have with Booming Voice.
errant oriole
oh ok
mossy dew
hey guys how is protection warrior these days I haven't played in a months
hybrid zealot
hey fellas im struggeling with azerite traits for progression: i choose my 415 head with DC and BoM, my 400 chest with IF(over 2nd DC) and BoM(over Treacherous Covenant) and I have 2 shoulders 385 with either CR&IF or Blood Rite or 2nd one with BoM/BfI and CR. my question is whats your suggestion for either deff and off for opulence and conclave? and does the tier 3&4 traits make a greater impact?
warm plinth
Prot warrior traits are better than generics; always choose your pieces based on those unless the prot traits are the same on both pieces.
For the shoulders, just to clarify, outer ring on one is CR or IF with Blood Rite (and what prot trait?) in the second ring, and outer ring on the other is BoM or BfI with CR in the second ring?
hybrid zealot
so one is outer ring CR or DC and next ring IF or Blood Rite and the other shoulder is outer ring BoM or BfI with next ring CR or Incite the Pack
but am i right choosing ilvl over traits?
warm plinth
Yes, always ilevel over traits unless you have no DC traits, then you can drop some ilevel to pick up the first DC trait
hybrid zealot
aight
so i prolly take BfI and CR on that 385 instead of the other ones
it also has lifespeed of earthlink so another good choice on 3rd ring i think
warm plinth
Yeah, Lifespeed is great
hybrid zealot
aight
oh and what about shields? an 5ilvl upgrade without haste is better anyways right?
sick sentinel
ilvl on shields
warm plinth
Any ilevel upgrade on a shield is worth it
sick sentinel
is huge
warm plinth
No matter what
warm plinth
It's either that or actually do work
hybrid zealot
😄
as i said im focusing on opulence progression and conclave after
i have lingering sporepods on 410ilvl
bwondsamdi on 385
mythrax on
375
opulence hc trinket
and darkmoon decks for dps and tank
warm plinth
Well, definitely gonna be using prism
hybrid zealot
think that are my best options
oblique garnet
prism and bobsalami for progression
warm plinth
I had to reread that to make sure I was reading it right 😂
hybrid zealot
sorry 😄
warm plinth
Nah I meant Late calling it bobsalami
warm plinth
Yeah for prog bwonsamdi is okay. Prism is easily our best defensive trinket by a mile. It's incredibly good.
hybrid zealot
aight
so i hope its gonna be a kill tomorrow and i can get my hands on a juicy mythic prism 😄
warm plinth
I was really hoping to get a prism from the mythic dungeon weekly, but no such luck
hybrid zealot
guild mate got a 425 dice with socket from chest 😄
warm plinth
Phew!
hybrid zealot
wiat i think there is a clip he linked
warm plinth
What spec?
warm plinth
Nice. Can't watch unfortunately. Work hates twitch
warm plinth
I'll actually have a chest this coming Tuesday. 💪
hybrid zealot
there is no option to sim prot for dps actually right?
warm plinth
First one on my warrior this expansion 😅
oblique garnet
there are sims
hybrid zealot
good luck for tuesday!
oblique garnet
but idk if they are 100% working
warm plinth
Eh, you can but I would take it with a grain of salt. I don't think everything is ironed out yet.
oblique garnet
idk i sim 27k in hectic add cleave which seems pretty accurate
hybrid zealot
but actually you dont need any good trinkets or stuff when you have TC 😄
simming for m+?! @oblique garnet
warm plinth
Use HAC, not dungeon slice though. I feel like it's asking for trouble using a beta module with a beta sim type lol. I for one am not going to take any sims 100% seriously until there's an announcement made that we should do so.
hybrid zealot
with how my targets?
warm plinth
Just do 1 boss target. I think it assumes 5 targets for HAC sims anyway.
hybrid zealot
some mate just sim patchwerk or light movement with 5-7 targets and 20/40s duration for m+ sims
sick sentinel
light movement is wack
hybrid zealot
just sims about 16k 😄
oblique garnet
on hac?
hybrid zealot
ye
oblique garnet
o.o
sick sentinel
How many boms?
hybrid zealot
let me try more targets
works 😄
i think im prepared for tonight
so thx @warm plinth
supple path
@warm plinth Yeah, problem is that it comes more frequently than every 25 seconds and only targets two random people each time, so if you just spell reflect when it's due, you run the risk of reflecting nothing + not having it up for next cast. Basically just a "room to overfinesse this more" challenge - it is possible to reactively just reflect when she targets you, but you have like 0.2s to react.
I probably need to get some WA for it that blares a REFLECT NOW at me rather than staring at cast bars though.
narrow abyss
I just check pho ability timeline or whatever
And in my experience. Rarely does it not go on the tank
warm plinth
You won't reflect anything but you'll mitigate her auto attacks (which are also magic). That's the only reason I suggested just chancing it when it's about to come off CD. That way you can cast SR as close to on CD as possible. If you're missing a lot of the DoTs anyway, you might as well get as much mitigation from SR as possible by using it on CD.
narrow abyss
The bfa targeted spells WA might actually display which two are being targeting with that border glow animation so u can check during the cast time. I just recently installed it and haven’t done an ML this week so don’t know for sure.
shut summit
@supple path if you're talking about 3rd boss in motherlode, it's always closest 2 players to boss
narrow abyss
🤯
warm plinth
Pro M+ strats!
shut summit
So can reflect one, have rogue cloak next, reflect again, monk diffuse, etc etc
Basically just cycle through group using CDs when reflect won't be up
warm plinth
The healer will still have one DoT to heal doing that, right? Since it goes on 2 people? Or can they just dispel it off the other person?
shut summit
Can dispel
warm plinth
Gotcha.
summer chasm
You dispel one and avoid the other
narrow abyss
It’s always 2. So if u reflect one. Healer dispels other. Second set. You don’t have reflect. Rogue cloak. Healer dispels on you
warm plinth
Ohh okay. I was thinking of it in a weird way lol. Thanks for clarifying.
hybrid cipher
Does anyone know of a list of spells in M+ that are reflectable?
warm plinth
There's a blockable/reflectable guide in #268491842637660160
It has noteable trash mobs in the bottom right corner of each dungeon page
hybrid cipher
Awesome thanks!
supple path
@shut summit Awesome, thanks, never noticed it was distance based, appreciated.
night halo
Does anybody know if they patched leaping out of Crushing Leap? Not sure if I am just bad but I missed every single one that I tried this week
sullen drift
is Bloodsport a must have trait?
sullen drift
its ok
warm plinth
Quit yelling at people Blade, gosh
oblique garnet
smh blade wheres your manners
sullen drift
shall i stack 2 deafening crash or they dont stack?
warm plinth
The damage stacks, but not the Demo Shout extension
Likely better to use a different trait after the first one.
analog swift
hey what's the best way to drop necrotic stacks as prot warrior on necrotic?
warm plinth
Heroic Leap away and kite when your duration is relatively low. Group can help with any AoE snares/stuns they might have. If you're a dwarf or nelf, you can drop the stacks with racial abilities.
sullen drift
so i have on head deafening crash + callous reprisal shoulders bastion of might + iron fortress and chest brace for impact + iron fortress how is that ?
for m+
warm plinth
Could be better, but also could be much worse. If you had more BoM in place of CR and BfI (for M+) that would be ideal, but those are fine.
My ideal traits would be 3x BoM, 1x DC, 2x IF for M+
sullen drift
i could also go for x2 BoM x2 IF x1 DC and x1 CR is that better ?
warm plinth
Yeah, that'd be better
narrow abyss
Rop or treants
sullen drift
@warm plinth actually i managed to get x3 BoM x1 DC and x2 IF as u told thank you fellow warrior!
warm plinth
Sweet! You didn't lose any ilevel to get those, did you? ilevel is still the most important thing.
sullen drift
all 3 azerites are 400 ilvl
warm plinth
Nice, perfect then!
edgy linden
Are sockets worth any ilvl?
edgy linden
OK thanks! This is 10 ilvl drop so will stick with what I have
last mason
is intercepting the powder shots on 2nd boss fh something I should be thinking about doing normally
dense plover
The trink from KR not super great for Prot? Mchimnas bandages?
merry cave
It's not fantastic unless it's considerably higher ilvl than others you have
sick sentinel
@last mason if you have safeguard you should
and you should use safeguard anyway its good defensive actualy
sick sentinel
@last mason yes and safeguard is not required
shut summit
yea you should be doing it, makes fight incredibly tame
oops didnt see how long ago that was
vocal elm
limpid wadi
Intercepting what on the second boss in free hold?
warm plinth
Powder Shot
daring marlin
tbh I’d probably roll 3xBoM, 1xDC and 2xBloodsport if I had the ideal setup.
don’t sleep on that leech, that shit adds up
warm plinth
Isn't 2 bloodsport only like 2% leech at 415?
potent anvil
425 jes' howler 
warm plinth
Whew!
daring marlin
It adds up with other leech effects
lol deswind I think I heard shak talking about that earlier
when I was watching Nerf
sick sentinel
daring marlin
sick sentinel
double BS gives less leech than a single item with leech on it
daring marlin
You wouldn’t use just the bloodsport lol
That coupled with blood siphon and leech on your gear will really add up
sick sentinel
leech middle traits are pretty DansGame tbh
sonic saddle
O' Experts of Protting... what will be YOUR top two trinkies from this lackluster(?) list of trinkies?
Mchimba's Ritual Bandages (390)
Gore-Crusted Butcher's Block (385)
Jes' Howler (385+Socket)
Doom's Fury (375)
Rezan's Gleaming Eye (370+socket)
Darkmoon Deck: Blockades (355)
sick sentinel
gore block +jes
lavish oracle
Depends on what you're using them for. Butcher's block is great for damage, Mchimba's is good for survivability, Jes' is a fairly strong dps and survivability cooldown for you and your party in 5-mans
modest wedge
butcher is also good for block
last mason
@shut summit would you mind pming me your dungeon WAs? Watched your freehold vid and really liked what I saw
ornate blade
Ritual Bandages are utter meh lol
400 ilvl gives like 60k shield. My IP gives 70k absorb and have no CD.
Howler is cool thing
Rezans eye for haste procs
Haste is surv
lavish oracle
Couple of things: bandages is 72k at 400 ilvl, there's basically no way your base IP gives 70k shielding, and bandages costs 0 rage
ornate blade
Bloodsport...
lavish oracle
I'm running double bloodsport and mine is 50k, lol
lavish oracle
405, my dude
lavish oracle
It's 60k if I pop Vial which is 2k extra attack power
lavish oracle
Pretty sure you're double casting, lol
ornate blade
u cant stack it lol
lavish oracle
Glickz is 409 and is getting 45k with 1 Bloodsport
If you tripple stack it, that's what? 12k more?
at 415?
ornate blade
sure try to convice me im seeing things in my tooltips 😄
lavish oracle
I'm just not confident you know what your tooltip says, lol
ornate blade
6k for 415 bloodsport
lavish oracle
Yeah, so tripple stacking it is 12k above 1x Bloodsport
ornate blade
3x 6 is 12?
lavish oracle
Glickz is running 1 atm
sick sentinel
they are good
esp if you raid
I have actually used them in some keys, I am not currently using them because I have them tuned for fury, probably will either make a second pair to use for prot or something
the Gismo trait is super good
sick sentinel
block as in BfI?
ripe crow
iron fort
atomic kindle
hey folks... I hate the champion of light fight on my warrior - I can't reliably reset the stacks on the boss
is there a trick I'm not aware of?
sick sentinel
you can charge to a healer or a ranged and then leap
and when she approaches you can spell reflect one application
atomic kindle
uuu spell reflect!
tardy berry
YOU CAN SPELL REFLECT APLICATIONS OF THAT SHIT?!?!??
tardy berry
This is the most critical information I have obtained today, and I'm sitting in complex numbers education rn
sick sentinel
ripe crow
\
sick sentinel
there are people that work extremely hard to make this information as available as possible
please go through it
atomic kindle
thanks a lot 😃
also
seems that if you catch one disorient from the blinding light it instantly resets the stacks as well
sick sentinel
you have to time correctly and it works like that yes
if you get disoriented you completely drop threat
so a poor dps will die
and will also probably the highest guy in the meters
atomic kindle
unless this is the moment when the other tank taunts for a bit
ideally the boss won't even make it to other tank before I taunt back
without the disorient the tank swap requires more time to drop the stacks
ornate blade
On mythic you can reset stack just as boss cast that long cast (dont know the exact name) wich buffs living (and dead) adds. Just pop reflect on end of that cast and u r golden
tardy berry
I saw the ressources
Guys
I had no udea you can spell reflect the dot on bestial throw
atomic kindle
well I wont ever tank it on mythic, but thanks anyway :p
tardy berry
Critical AF information
sick sentinel
it is
ornate blade
u can reflect that dot? the fck 😄
ornate blade
lilbit
sick sentinel
you need to press SR when the boss is casting his 3rd cast
if the cast is on you ofc
atomic kindle
the throw happens immediately afther the 3rd combo ability?
sick sentinel
well the cast is extremely fast
prime rivet
pick 2:
400 vial
400 razan
415 lingering sporepods
405 howler
i can't decide 😃
for m+
outer dew
vial/rezan
ornate blade
howler/rezan
neon tangle
I’d sacrifice 5lvls to get the 90s trinket
prime rivet
which?
neon tangle
Vial has a 90s CD, which lines up well to have it every other avatar
lavish oracle
I'm with Vial Rezan's
warped moth
Blood siphon or winds of war for M+
lavish oracle
Whats tue order of operation for DR calculations?
sick sentinel
there is a sheet
but its a bit out of date
I went and updated mine, lemme fetch it
lavish oracle
So like if I have 55% armor reduction, shield block, shield wall, IP, demo, and 5% vers, what order are reductions applied in?
Or does it even matter?
sick sentinel
uhhh ping somebody who knows?
warm plinth
Absorbs get consumed after damage reductions; reductions happen at the same time
I dont' know how to do the math though
don't*
sick sentinel
this is mine
if you go and replace the value on the "stat increase" box you will see how much DR will X stat give you
use mine instead of marok's for your calculations btw
marok has not updated for 16 base shieldblock and vanguard buffs
I did
warm plinth
❤
Order of reductions doesn't matter though, to answer your question @lavish oracle. It's just a multiplication problem either way.
lavish oracle
Okay, so absorbs last might be the only part that matters, that'd make sense
warm plinth
Yeah, that should be all that matters assuming it's all % damage reduction. I'm honestly not sure about something like the HMT racial since that's a fixed damage reduction afaik.
lavish oracle
I need to stop thinking about this before it keeps me awake all night
% DR -> fixed reduction -> absorb?
warm plinth
Like to save my brain, if you had a 100k hit, had a 50% reduction from block, had 40% from shield wall, and had 5% vers, you'd take 28,500 damage before IP. I would imagine that static damage reduction like the HMT racial would take place after %DR but before absorbs, yeah.
But I'm not 100% on that
lavish oracle
If they came before % DR they'd be basically worthless
warm plinth
Yeah, you'd be taking (for example) 200 damage from 100k vs 200 damage from 28,500
It'd be essentially insignificant
lavish oracle
Okay, time to sleep before I think of another kind of damage reduction to fit in there
warm plinth
Haha
sick sentinel
So I was taking treeboy in manor
And I shuffled a bit to help kill the snare on my healer
The boss literally walks behind me
And fucking slams me in the back
250k slap
I took more damage on that single hit than I had taken the whole encounter
silk mortar
It's fun on pugs when you see tanks walk into every single fire they see on tyrannical
And basiclly kills group
And after that tank goes wtf
mental tundra
quick trinket question boyz
for m+ what trinkets would you run? got 400 ilvl rezan+diamond(from opulence) and vial from UR
is rezan+vial better or is rezan+diamond better? :/
silk mortar
Would personally run Vial and Diamond, dont know if others agree but Diamond feels good and absorbs much damage over the run and vial lets us burst really good
mental tundra
dropping rezan? 😮
that feels bad man
might be worth mentioning that the rezan got +84 leech aswell
mental tundra
i guess like it could differ for dungeons, if im doing lower keys in like ML/FH/WM vial+rezan could be good for padding
sick sentinel
if you want to be in an overall better shape then rezans is better
mental tundra
yeah i feel rezan cant be droped
sick sentinel
we burst so good anyway
mental tundra
but diamond can maybe be dropped in some situations where you have good affix and you wont need survivability that much maybe
silk mortar
We may burst good but can always improve ;D
sick sentinel
that is actually not that true
even in +15s and +16s, most mobs dies before avatar ends
silk mortar
While that may be true it depends on how well your dps is doign also
The ones i run with are kinda meh ;P
mental tundra
always feelsbad tho
when you avatar a big pack
and then reaping comes
and u got nothing
silk mortar
Yeah its really important to plan ahead ^^
mental scarab
Btw on jadefire master Mythic do you guys use more vers gear?
mental scarab
Same ivl then😛
mental tundra
cause its gives you surv+damge
floral tinsel
The boss ain't that bad, you just gotta realize that the mage only does fire damage to you when you tank him, so don't spen your rage on anything but IP and you are fine.. monk is blockable damage so there you obviously use shield block
If you still feel like you are struggeling getting a BoM (free IP casts are stronk) and/or a Bloodsport Azerite trait helps
daring patrol
try not to get more than 10 stacks, if you're the one tanking him during bombs, abuse the LoS and basically ignore his damage for the duration
old zephyr
What is your cotank ?
What we do on jadefire is swap right before and right after the monk mechanics that send the tank on trial
round vortex
Hye guys looking for a hot tip here on Jaina Heroic. Her ice lance is hitting for 120k every 1 sec. Is there anyway to mitigate that more other than shiel dblock?
urban walrus
Swap as soon as you can with the attaching ice Lance debuff
Stacking*
The other debuff you can ignore by either clearing from the ammunition or killing the ice cube quickly
round vortex
Yeah its only phase 3
we getting there with whole raid every time then getting ruined
urban walrus
Other than that other DRs personal or otherwise still work
round vortex
made last phase on 2nd pull lol
urban walrus
Other than timing your SB usage for higher stacks or asking for personals that's about it
I'm assuming you didn't swap with the ice lance correctly if you are getting destroyed
It's not low damage but quite manageable
Are you getting the other stuff by standing with the other tank?
That might cause issues with the ice blocks on tanks
Debuff*
sick sentinel
you might want to hold your shield wall and/or last stand for p3 anyway
and use spell reflect for 5s of DR on the dot if you are at high stacks of Chilling touch
sick sentinel
get one group frozen before everyone else
get them soak first orb and stand inside ice ground that will be left by glacial ray
round vortex
ok awesome
sick sentinel
so when people get frozen those guys can get you out
also make sure that group has bigger aoe then everyone else like outlaw rogue dh and such
round vortex
yep legend we went double DH ele shaman DK pally
ill advise in 10
best time to lust?
sick sentinel
i think people do what method did nowadays even with heroic
hero on wall but still ranged attack boss and use cds
just melee and tanks hit the wall
also ignore nathanos and go for add first then nathanos that should make entrance to last phase easier
or you can hero either 2nd or 3rd image to make the fight easier during the phase
round vortex
13% wipe
calm root
hey guys. why do some people pick devastator instead of booming voice in BfD? I thought booming voice is mathematically more damage and rage generation per minute.
formal vine
I can die in piece now
urban walrus
I think it comes down to preference, with current hate levels we aren't struggling to have a good mix of up and SB?
eager phoenix
How good is Jainas dps trinket with the stacking dot compared to 400 Vial or 400 Rezans in M+? I don't have either 400 Vial or Rezans to compare but 385 Jaina trinket was doing around 650 dps overall in +15 WcM and SoB this week. Mainly curious if I need to make it a bigger priority to slam UR and AD to get these trinkets if they performs a lot better in M+.
sick sentinel
@eager phoenix jaina trinket does very solid damage
@urban walrus you should focus on keeping SB up at all times and IP second
even with mediocre levels of haste I can keep both up at most times
@calm root BV is more rage generation so it's better defencively and it's better in AoE dps but with one or more instances of BfI devastator can bring very solid ST damage
@mental scarab Vers is very, very solid defencively in raids after haste and if you do the calculations/spreadsheet it might be actually the best defencively for you
eager tartan
I'm actually experimenting with 3 IP traits plus the jess howl trinket (got one at 425)
THICC IP
sick sentinel
I opted in using a second DC over a BS, because most of the time my IP either runs out or I have to overcap it for rage
so having even more would result in not that much
I still use all of it in some scenarios, the one I am in most danger actually but it has a very decreased value overall
if you are doing mostly raids, then it is good, since there is so much magic damage in them
robust bronze
At what haste level would devistator beat booming voice in rage generation?
sick sentinel
none probably
it got super nerfed with the release of bfa
it used to give rage when it procced and SS was giving 20 rage
now it does not give rage and SS generates 15 rage
calm root
@sick sentinel Thanks. But i don't see any connection between devastator and BfI in logs. Some are running multiple BfI with booming voice. Some are using devastator without a single BfI trait.
sick sentinel
also " Devastator’s chance to reset Shield Slam is reduced, from 30% to 20%"
it got absolutely fucked
I just described the ideal scenario where it's good
molten raven
Hey guys. I
I've seemed to have hit a wall with my warrior. Could anyone have a look at my toon and give me some criticism. Salleen- Frostmourne
icy flax
if you make a raid with only protect warriors. can you reflect jademaster's pyro and hit for 100M ?
sick sentinel
not tested if pyro is reflectable
runic fractal
@molten raven give us specific problems you are having...?
your ilvl is incredibly low for a start
molten raven
398 is low?
sick sentinel
398 is not low by any means
sick sentinel
can't really look at your character right now, have you read the icy veins guide etc
and checked everything in #268491842637660160
molten raven
Might help @runic fractal https://raider.io/characters/us/frostmourne/Salleen
sick sentinel
your gear is ok
modest wedge
what wall do you think you've hit?
sick sentinel
your shield's ilvl is pretty crucial so you want to try to improve on that aspect
runic fractal
^
runic fractal
group dependent most of the time
sick sentinel
^^
modest wedge
at least
sick sentinel
again, before we start saying stuff, have you read the guides and checked the available resources
if you haven't we can't really help you
it will be better for you if you ask more specific questions
sick sentinel
logs REALLY help
molten raven
You can log M+ yeah?
sick sentinel
if you come back with logs we can actually help you
molten raven
yeah that's fair enough
modest wedge
I think you can go far without logs but they help in niche places and things that are nice to know. So dont expect to get suddenly better by just logging things. never logged my mplusses. I would but im lazy
sick sentinel
because right now sadly there is not much we can do other than a) point you towards recourses and stuff to read or b) tell you to go check stream/youtube of sense or deswind or other stormforged that do keys
round vortex
@sick sentinel I can post a kill video soon
tardy berry
What are the names of noteworthy prot warrior streamers and youtubers to look up for educational purposes?
sand egret
Sense streams for sure (he’s also in here as well)
in fact, a few warriors in here stream. could just creep on the sidebar lookin for links 😉
modest wedge
Can one promote his/her stream on #promotion ? just askins for maybe future reference
or what are the rules
sick sentinel
Sense,deswind,lala steam prot
sweet kettle
Marok sense lala and deswind stream
sweet kettle
cough Bugatsa streams cough
sick sentinel
You do?
sand egret
@molten raven My best advice for getting those +10s in time are to go watch some streams and see how they pull. Pull path, pacing, the setup, things to interrupt, etc. are really how you end up timing a key (esp if you dont know how to deal with Reaping). Once you got the knowledge, it’s about building the muscle memory of the spec to ensure you can actually tank the pulls. 😃
sweet kettle
From time to time
sand egret
proper group placement is huge for reaping to get a handle on the swarm
sick sentinel
Not wiping also helps
modest wedge
4Head
sand egret
“If you keep your hp above 0, you won’t die!” - sagely advice from peerless master, Kaege.
😛
sweet kettle
Keep claping and all will be Gucci
daring patrol
pay attention to when you're close to each reaping pack and save avatar, ezclap handles the whole pack
feels like that scene in LotR where gimli literally blows away the ghosts
waxen talon
u could just get a shammy or a druid and they will negate atleast half the reapings.
sand egret
“When there’s something strange...in your Mythic key....who ya gonna call!”
👢 🍵 👏
tribal schooner
Actually shammy's elemental will not aggro reaping mobs from protwar
Because avatar + clap is too much
daring patrol
it will round them up for you if you don't have avatar up and clap is on cd
tribal schooner
Yeah, but I mean scenario, when you save avatar for them, which you should do for every reaping
sick sentinel
Primal earth ele have a 15yard aoe taunt on a 5 sec cd
They will pick up the mobs off of you
tribal schooner
It builds aggro very slow, so it won't pick up mobs from protwar with avatar up
tardy berry
appropos reaping, how do y'all negate that fuckton of damage?
Do you kite a lot, or do you just use CDs and don't stand in purple shit?
tribal schooner
And primal ele isn't stronger than basic ele as I recall. It only receives a decent save for shaman and itself
daring patrol
it's really not a lot of damage unless you have a lot of the caster ones
if you're taking a ton of damage its either that and/or your healer isn't dispelling you
sick sentinel
Primal ele can tank the reaping like a champ
tardy berry
hmm, alright. I think the stacks are usually what gets me
sick sentinel
Then your healer is dispelling badly
Try to shockwave when you are above 25 stacks or right after you get dispeled
healers should dispel around 20 stacks
and if reaping adds meleeing you alot kite and stun a bit until you get dispelled again
high stacks will just kill you
I have survived a 63 stack tick before
It did hurt, but I survived
tardy berry
noice
marble wave
@tardy berry glikz streaming too
And he answered for every question in chat ;) very informative
tardy berry
noted 😃
mental scarab
@sick sentinel yea i mostly thinking magic dmg lower some of it🙂
narrow abyss
There really isn’t much damage if you’re being dispelled correctly
sick sentinel
Sabel is talking about mageboy in JFM
mental scarab
Yea
modern brook
I just realized how fucking unlucky my warrior's drops have been
I have 3 times as many tidal cores as my rogue
and am 9 ilvls lower than it in bags
feels weekly chest man
fresh valley
Hey guys, i'm getting into tanking for my group this season. I had a quick question for tanking in shine: on fortified, the normal spell casting mobs were chunking me for over 30% of my life in one spell cast (specifically all the casters before the first boss) and this was on a +10. Any tips or tricks to mitigate this? We're interupting/stunning as many as we can but it still gets dicey. I'm worried as we push for our +15 achievement that this could be a block for us.
Am i better off maybe starting off with a stam flask then swapping to a str flask after the first boss?
modern brook
The water guys?
prisma crane
spell reflect 😉
sick sentinel
the water blast hurts yeah you can reflect it
modern brook
Make sure you're not shieldblocking during those pulls unless u have a real reason to
Spellreflect blast
fucking walk out of the swirlds
make sure you have Demo shout up as much as possible
spells hurt
sick sentinel
use IP not block also use shout and wall if needed
fresh valley
yeah
modern brook
SotS is one of the harder dungeons for us
daring patrol
coordinate interrupts, don't interrupt the sea swell, just move out of it
modern brook
^
if u wanna get super technical
your DPS should be kicking the blasts
you should be kicking the mends
narrow abyss
Interrupt the hell out of water blasts. Get out of deep smash. And wait for a good tyrannical week
😂
fresh valley
I think that's our issue, we're just interupting everything
instead of interupting the direct damage casts
and just moving out of shit
modern brook
Im p sure waterblast always targets the tank
so thats just rude of your DPS
it also makes great memes with Spell reflect
EZPZ 150k damage
fresh valley
yeah, love some spell reflect
primal crypt
modern brook
but yeah that entire dungeon is a pain for prot tbh
well thats not true; we're basically other tanks inverted
fresh valley
yeah, we timed a 10 last night. never want to step foot in there again lol