protection

[wary gyro]

I don't know why they thought it needed a CD nerf at the start of the xpac

[uneven mason]

same reason why we got a 30% reduction in TCs snare

"because"

[primal crypt]

🍆

[uneven mason]

Sorry I was mistaken, you CAN reflect stacks, I Just happen to win RNGesus ire and have my SR knocked off by a fucking add casting at me three times in the pull

[unborn island]

That's...ridivulously unlikely

[honest canopy]

So my grp cannot kill last boss in UR12

the healer keeps dying

and we are overrun by adds

we had 8 mins on the timer when we came to him

fml

[daring marlin]

just solo it 4head

[primal crypt]

Yeah

Prot can solo that boss

[uneven mason]

UR Last boss literally prot warrior soloable

[primal crypt]

You shouldn't have died

[uneven mason]

L2Tab 4VR

[primal crypt]

You dont eve have to tab

[uneven mason]

every other GCD is literally a heal

true

[primal crypt]

Just tclap

Tclap vr

Tclap

Vr

Ez

[uneven mason]

Spec CT - never take damage

LIteral best part of UR tho

is how nice and grouped the last reapin wave is

when you TP down

[primal crypt]

Oh yes

Perfect spawn for clapping cheeks

[vocal skiff]

So, taking advantage of the topic

What procs and doesn't proc Victory Rush?

I have meant to ask that some time, as some mobs proc VR in dungeons, and others do not

[open bluff]

everything procs VR

you just have to be the one to score the killing blow

[honest canopy]

lul

litteraly

me and a ret

killed it xD

[astral crystal]

did your group know to ignore adds and just nuke boss?

[wary gyro]

Do people actually waste dps kn the ads still?

[oblique garnet]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA kill me missed the timer on 15 shrine by 18 seconds fml

[wary gyro]

Better than the time I missed a timer by literally a second

[uneven mason]

Y u no 👢 🍵 👏 harder

[signal plover]

Late quit being shit cmon

[uneven mason]

Late if this were sparta I'd have thrown you off the cliff

[oblique garnet]

You know the eels on the last boss room right

[uneven mason]

"Defective baby, can't timer 15s"

[oblique garnet]

If you have a dh

[wary gyro]

Living up your name thers late

[oblique garnet]

And the dh double jumps while he has aggro on some of them

It fucks up the pack and all of them evade

[uneven mason]

yes

[oblique garnet]

Because of that

[uneven mason]

DH evad bugging packs, well documented

know how you fix that

Stop bringing DHs

[oblique garnet]

But what if they are blasting tho

30k overall dps

Without fel barrage

[uneven mason]

But what if you could just bring a class that doesn't regularly fuck up

If its gota Hunt in the name, I treat it like ketchup, I'll take the other brand please.

[oblique garnet]

We dont have any rogues in our guild that actively do m+

[sick sentinel]

just did an atal 10 farming rezans

and trying out bonded souls

it had 44% uptime

[uneven mason]

Uptime is 25% + 0.25% per 1% haste.

apperntly

multiple traits stack?

[signal plover]

Uptime for mAh dick maybe ayyyyyy

Sorry it's been rly cold here my brain is thawing

[queen valley]

Whats the addon that announces your successful interrupt in party chat or w/e?

[brisk ferry]

ELVui does it for me

[queen valley]

Hmm yeah thats what I see but I dont use that so I was trying to track down the addon that does it

Unless its just something built in

[brisk ferry]

mine

is built it

[queen valley]

Darn

[brisk ferry]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2087681-Elvui-intterupt-annouce

you can google it, there were a ton of replies to how to do it lol

[queen valley]

Like I said I dont use elv.

But thanks

[oblique garnet]

I hate addons like that tbh

[queen valley]

Why

[cinder pasture]

Theres weakauras that announce interrupts aswell

[queen valley]

Seems ok for pugging M+ with no voice

[oblique garnet]

There are other weakauras that show whos interrupt is on cd etc

And usually if i pug with no voice comms i just save my interrupt for the last

[tender phoenix]

is the ring and back from BoDa worth it?

[uneven mason]

seeing as all we care about is ilvl

if you get them in high ilvl

[sick sentinel]

if they are your higher ilvls sure

[uneven mason]

yes

got the ring in heroic last night 👍

[tender phoenix]

the haste is worse then my rings i have on atm

[uneven mason]

ilvl

I T E M L E V E L

[tender phoenix]

i wanna go fast boi

[uneven mason]

U WANNA GO DED BOI

[tender phoenix]

ok i go ded 😄

[rocky ledge]

@storm crow I’m late to the party, but from my experience the best way to handle that boss is have group stack on you (in front). You face the boss towards the patches of stuff on the ground. 50% through his cast, everyone runs through the boss. You drag him till there is clean space behind, then turn him 180 to face the spew again.

[uneven mason]

In reality, you don't sacrifice ilvl going from haste to haste

if its like 5 ilvls crit vers vs haste (whatever)

than mebbie

[rocky ledge]

This puts you close to the blobs for tclap and Minimizes spray all over the room

[uneven mason]

THe issue is

folks like to stand in volcano

cause that affix on that boss

You'll think your in hawaii

[rocky ledge]

Yeah, volcanic does get out of hand later on.

I do all blob slaying for 1/2 the fight then ask range to help to keep volcanic in check

[lusty grotto]

whataday

man i ran a UR last night

cant remember if 13 or 12

i pulled ticks before 1st boss room

had an hpal

didn't bop

i said "no bop :,("

guy got hella mad

"you save bop for this room" im like wut

"stuns exist for fixate"

"im done talking to you"

yikes

wiped us on last boss on purpose so we didn't time it

"you never pull ticks"

[small fable]

I usually warn healer if I’m pulling any ticks

[wary gyro]

I've never seen someone save bop for the fixate

[hasty pelican]

Hi...should I hold Shield Block if I have Ingore Pain active and vice versa?

[fierce juniper]

No, generally speaking Ignore Pain is used in addition to Shield Block. i.e. you want to keep Shield Block up as much as possible whenever you're actively tanking something. And then as Rage allows, use Ignore Pain on top of that.

[small fable]

Without overcapping either rage or IP

[daring marlin]

@lusty grotto imagine being me

and having fireblood

get rekt idiot

[primal crypt]

@lusty grotto why you need bop?

[bitter girder]

is the azarite traits we want for M+ still the ones in the Resources tab?

[fierce juniper]

Yeah. There are M+ specific rankings for the prot traits in the Icy Veins guide as well.

[primal crypt]

Icy veins

[bitter girder]

okey

[primal crypt]

Def the way to go

[brisk ferry]

the resource tab azerite traits are based on before we got the 2nd spec ring though, I think

[sick sentinel]

Is Vial good or should I spam tol'dagor for jes ?

currently rocking with rezan/vial

[primal crypt]

Rez vial is good

Jes is more for your team

Since they gain the versa

You get yours too

[sick sentinel]

just got rezans 400+s+leech

[primal crypt]

Im selfish

Someone ban @sick sentinel

[sick sentinel]

do I use it over 385 knot or over 390 gore block

fuck'em I do more dps anyways D:

[primal crypt]

Just delete it

Kaege

[sick sentinel]

also my luck from the 1st boss BoD on mythic... chest + coined shield

[primal crypt]

I would use the knot with the rezan

[vocal nimbus]

@fierce juniper 👋

[fierce juniper]

👋

[vocal nimbus]

@undone sun 👋

[broken roost]

If you have SB up (and no charges), and also IP up and capped - better to cap rage or just IP and 'waste' the absorb?

[vocal nimbus]

Revengr

[broken roost]

With bloodsport, probably IP I suppose to maintain that buff I guess

If revenge has a proc active too

[vocal nimbus]

Then waste the ip

[hasty pelican]

Hi in the Icy Veins it speaks about the 'correct' way of using last stand? Any info on what might that be?

[broken roost]

I suppose it should be a niche case with little damage taken but enough targets/rng to get revenge proc

Okay- thanks

[vocal nimbus]

Dont wait for an oh fuck moment @hasty pelican

Use it preemptively (is that a word?)

[hasty pelican]

Well I was thingking to use it like in 35% health or something?

[wary gyro]

Ip will always give you some benefit

It's hard to really say using defensives is very much a case by case thing

[fierce juniper]

@hasty pelican There's info on how to use LS with Bolster in the rotation page

[vocal nimbus]

You mostly use LS to fill SB gaps

[hasty pelican]

Marok: Ah yes there is...didnt notice it actually. Thanks.

[stark sage]

like you're taking a last stand?

[vocal nimbus]

More like

Let me rest for a bit before i recover stand

[daring marlin]

@sick sentinel hey fuck you pal

Share the love!

[uneven mason]

toshkick

so toshick

@hasty pelican because I haven't posted it in a few days, example what IP + Block does together
@modern brook calls it B VALUE porn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/539514631761166336/unknown.png

[stark sage]

only 93% smh

[uneven mason]

I didn't have shield wall up

👏

could've been 98%

[stark sage]

yeet

[uneven mason]

Co tank is like "let me know when you want me to taunt"

Y we do dat, help heal someone Pallyjim

[stark sage]

xd

[wary gyro]

Theres a tank swap on opulence?

[minor kestrel]

How good is Ramping Amplitude Gigavolt Engine compared to rezan´s trinket from atal dazar?

[uneven mason]

something about depleted diamond

apples to apples its on use

so you can "control" it I guess

all in all though

1 less button to press with Rezan's

it just sucks if it comes up while you have no SB charges on CD

which tbh isn't often in this raid

or in M+

item level disparity I feel its worth using

[minor kestrel]

well we chain pull untill oom in m+ anyway so never 2 stacks of SB ready

[mossy tiger]

Question: jainas ice shard, can you block or reflect it?

[uneven mason]

block

its physical damage

warrior primo

[mossy tiger]

It’s a physical damage cast?

Sick ty

[uneven mason]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRvMMhBT1xyvECDvAlxXirfLYtgzYZ18vjY3zRyA4LU7NgVg5Vmj-MroMT5W6i94q0aYNodyer0hbZ3/pubhtml#

I think this got lost from stickies

[dusk locust]

she was hitting like a truck yesterday

still figuring out whether it was my fault 😛

[uneven mason]

She's the final boss of the raid tier

gonna say, thats intended

[vocal nimbus]

there are rumors that blizz buffed her autos

[fierce juniper]

Yeah, definitely seems like they did

[vocal nimbus]

my cotank was getting shattered

like

an icicle

🥁

[signal plover]

They did. Our pally was getting smashed. Healers told me my dmg was "super smooth" in comparison and I came so hard

[mossy tiger]

Thank you @uneven mason

[tired cove]

did they buff her auto's i was hearing someone say that but then they realized in heroic they were over the 25 player thing

guess we won't know until they realize the hotfix notes

[lusty grotto]

👊 guilfart

@primal crypt dem bleeds cause i wanna deeps

[daring marlin]

ur just jelly

[lusty grotto]

alliance scum

[daring marlin]

dimchip

bleeds? bop? Who needs em

[lusty grotto]

😢

[primal crypt]

What bleeds

??

[lusty grotto]

ticks

[primal crypt]

???

[lusty grotto]

ez tick pack

[primal crypt]

At the start of UR

[lusty grotto]

with mongo worm

[primal crypt]

?

[lusty grotto]

no

before 2nd boss room i meant

not 1st lul

[primal crypt]

OHHHH

[sand egret]

to the left

[lusty grotto]

nimchipadin was raging

[primal crypt]

lmao i was like wat

[lusty grotto]

lol

i should have streamed that run

guy was taunting shit left and right

agroed pack before mushroom boss reap

i was like ok fine ill just get loot

[south condor]

What should I be using out of these?
395 Ritual Feather 400 Rezan's 385 Butcher's block and 400 Alchemist Stone?

[uneven mason]

rez and alch

alch trnket is overbudget

[keen spire]

Hey mac

You should re-roll rogue with me

we can be brogues

[uneven mason]

No I play a real DPS

🛡

[keen spire]

[wary gyro]

Prot is best dps spec

[keen spire]

Was just testing you

You passed the test

[lusty grotto]

👢 🍵 👏

[uneven mason]

When the Warlock who normally tops our raid charts, refused to run with me all last season in M+, goes on a run with me and gets beat, he's all like "Whoa they really buffed warriors huh"

and I go

[lusty grotto]

smh

you should have told him, mac was always buffed

[uneven mason]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/517901074724552705/unknown.png
Been doing this all Xpac bro

[lusty grotto]

and there it is

[uneven mason]

oldie, but a goodie

[lusty grotto]

mac pic of the day

[supple path]

Ruined by that demon hunter.

How dare he

[uneven mason]

props to that DH

[lusty grotto]

we know the DH story Censuras you need to keep up

[ashen vigil]

410 lingering sporepods worth swapping for over 380 rezans or 385 big red button?

[lusty grotto]

sporepods is trash but i had to replace a trinket with it, im sad

[uneven mason]

over BRB

[lusty grotto]

deleting it asap

[ashen vigil]

but muh missiles

[lusty grotto]

passive str tho

just do llike me and delete it as soon as you get anything

[ashen vigil]

fair enough

[daring marlin]

I ran with a destro lock yesterday. I was just like 👊🏼 brother

[little hawk]

[daring marlin]

Shoulda ran a 10

😃

[little hawk]

Maybe 🤔

was helping a friend to gear up

[sick sentinel]

well

[uneven mason]

WELLTHEN

[strong hill]

Leech and a socket. Grata on the trinket!

[primal crypt]

Its not even that good

[lusty grotto]

👀

guaranteed replies

[little hawk]

grats!

[uneven mason]

Not worth replies, Yamo on block now

[lusty grotto]

rofl

[open bluff]

[mental scarab]

🍆🍆

[wary gyro]

Titan forging is a good mechanic

[lusty grotto]

mythic 5 but why

😢

[modern brook]

So on the one hand

glad im active enough to be @'d

on the other hand

😠

[uneven mason]

👏

[modern brook]

Me mongo man

me no want red 1 😠

[uneven mason]

😡

[modern brook]

🔞

[strong hill]

Maybe cap titan forging at 15 ivls?

[deft socket]

Looking at justwait's amory stats... hes at 1% versatility. Is that bottom barrel stat for raids?

[lusty grotto]

@modern brook

[deft socket]

Or is he trying to maximize dmg output for mythic

[modern brook]

@lusty grotto fuk u

[lusty grotto]

👢 🍵 👏

[modern brook]

;clap:

[lusty grotto]

damn it fucked it up

[modern brook]

;c la p:

[uneven mason]

@deft socket you don't tend to bother with minmaxing stats as prot

[lusty grotto]

@deft socket secondary stats are inconsequential compared to ilvl

[uneven mason]

^^

[modern brook]

@deft socket ilvl > haste > the rest. Always take ilvl on everything haste prefered when yo can

[uneven mason]

like right now, I'm at 16% Haste, 27% mastery

[deft socket]

Thanks for the replies

[uneven mason]

sorry forgot shifted some stats around. I'm at 15% crit, 12% Haste, 30% mastery

[lusty grotto]

@modern brook

[uneven mason]

👏

[modern brook]

mac is a fuckin liar 😠

[lusty grotto]

yeah i agree

[uneven mason]

9% vers

[deft socket]

Really similer to where im at @uneven mason

[modern brook]

i think i have like 25% crit lol

[lusty grotto]

i dont even know what im at

[uneven mason]

Ok Bull

get your own triple Smash block screenshots

[lusty grotto]

all i know is that my ilvl is way too low

[uneven mason]

I was gonna try it next week

but, 🖕 No 6million B VALUE porn for you

[modern brook]

30 pulls of grong tells me you cant

[lusty grotto]

need that 400

[modern brook]

the crush debuff doesnt last long enough

[uneven mason]

You can

[modern brook]

even if you get 3 in a row

[lusty grotto]

389 sigh 😦

[modern brook]

it only affects the next cast

[uneven mason]

doesn't refresh?

[modern brook]

(on heroic)

[uneven mason]

WAT

😿

[modern brook]

If theres one pull i know as prot its heroic grong

[uneven mason]

So I'm limited to my paltry 1million B VALUES?

[modern brook]

Dont ask me about anything else

[lusty grotto]

🤔

wait what the fuck

there are 2 bullfangos

[modern brook]

yeah ones EU

he's a fucking nerd

weirdly both thrall though

[lusty grotto]

am i tagging you

let me test

[modern brook]

yes you are

[lusty grotto]

@modern brook

[modern brook]

😠

[lusty grotto]

lul

[modern brook]

but yeah @uneven mason on heoric Crushed only lasts 2.5 seconds

I believe the cast times for both bite and smash are 2 seconds

hang on it can stack actually you might be right

[sand egret]

this web of lies...

[modern brook]

The tool tip says it can

But it also says it lasts for 30 seconds

which is a flat lie

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JYXC6jfNQM1L9wHD/#fight=19&type=auras&spells=debuffs&ability=285671&view=events

we got 2 triple smashes in this pull and you can clearly see it dropping

I know i took 2 smashes ina row once but idr where

I'll find it and let you know

[robust bronze]

is darkmoon still good compared to other trinkets in 400? defensivly ofc

[modern brook]

I think it depends on the trinket

but at 385 ilvls start outweighing dakrmoon

I think once you're looking at 400 the q becomes "which trinkets are worse" ratherthan "which are better

ie: on the whole I'd take 400 over dmd

[sand egret]

45 ilvls of stats is kinda big, imho

[stark sage]

@robust bronze referring to blockades?

[robust bronze]

yes

[stark sage]

iirc most defensive and stat trinkets like 385+ should beat it defensively

its not like fathoms is for dps

where it competes with 400 trinkets

[neon tangle]

The only real reason to run blockades at this point is if you need the stam to survive some mega hit

[sand egret]

they really need to just up and remove ilvl from trinkets im ho

[neon tangle]

and there are ~none of those in BoD

[stark sage]

and even then you could run some arguably trash trinkets like bwonsamdis' and zalzaix

if you want to survive a particular smash

[broken moon]

Anyone know how that guild in China killed first boss mythic in 45sec?

Like what their strat was

[sand egret]

single tank zerg if it was legit

[uneven mason]

^^

1 healer 1 tank

[broken moon]

So just adds on boss

[sand egret]

yeah, just blow up the boss

[broken moon]

Could probably do it as Prot war single tank right

With hpal

[uneven mason]

Monk

[modern brook]

isnt oppulance trinket really good sad?

defensively

[uneven mason]

its amazing for warriors

[sand egret]

yar

[modern brook]

i thought itw as basically prydaz

[sand egret]

it's RP and IVs lovechild

[strong hill]

A good raid trinket you say ?

[neon tangle]

@modern brook Yeah people have been getting some p good healing numbers out of it

[uneven mason]

Paladin cotank got a Bwansombi

[modern brook]

Wow now he's a bad class with a bad trinket

[neon tangle]

@uneven mason What a sad trinket to get

[modern brook]

😄

imagine playing prot but in pink

[uneven mason]

paladins are pretty good

[modern brook]

sure

they're no warriors though

[sand egret]

i dont think you get the point

Blood Elves are "good", but then you'd be a BE.

[modern brook]

belf female plate classes should be illegal

it looks so bad

[lusty grotto]

Chefs are good

[modern brook]

I dont get i t

[sand egret]

yes, chefs are fantastic

[lusty grotto]

Am I doing it right

[sand egret]

chef transmogs on Nimchip are trash

[lusty grotto]

😿

[sand egret]

keep your chin up, one man's trash is another man's treasure

[modern brook]

🇴 🅾 🇫

@uneven mason I cant find the double hits

[old night]

TFW U PULL 45K IN A REAPING PACK AND THE DH GOES "MAN FUCK PROT WARRS"

[modern brook]

imagine being a DH complaining about meters lol

[lusty grotto]

Lolllllllllll

Dude a hunter said that yesterday

[stark sage]

imagine being a dh and doing less than 50k in a reaping pack

[modern brook]

I got up to 96k during a reaping in the orb room on my rogue

[old night]

the best part is that we've been like this since the begining of the xpac

[modern brook]

CT spam 😮

[old night]

and everyone is convinced we got a dmg buff

[modern brook]

imagine if i was outlaw 😮

[old night]

👢 🍵 👏

[modern brook]

Peoples understanding of prot is non existent

people were like "we got nothing" in the update

[uneven mason]

Filmstrips literally had that convo like 2 days ago with a warlock who refused to run keys with me

[lusty grotto]

Yay film

[modern brook]

and suddenly we're the best tanks

[uneven mason]

and then he did a 11

and he's like "WAT THE FUCK THEY REALLY BUFFED PROT"

🤦

I won't link it again

[modern brook]

"prots been busted since the begining of the expansion and yet here they are not getting nerfed in tuning passes" - some reddit post, probably

[sand egret]

see, I just say "yeah they added this new spell called Thunderclap in 8.1"

[lusty grotto]

Lol bull

[old night]

I posted a twitch clip of my Blood DK straight massacring a warlock in my guild for meme'ing me and meme'ing prot

[uneven mason]

I mean

[old night]

blade has seen it

i think I posted it like, a month or so ago

[sand egret]

it was NSFW

[old night]

kid basically shits on me for prot and my co-tank blood DK massacres him

[uneven mason]

well

I mean

[sand egret]

dude needed a funeral

[modern brook]

poor warlock

[sand egret]

just threw that stupidity out there

and that DK just tee'd up on him

that tank respect

✊

[old night]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/338991860?filter=highlights&sort=time

language is NSFW

[inner onyx]

what traits is everyone aiming to get for prot nowadays

[lusty grotto]

What is this? Disney discord?

[sand egret]

same as always!

[lusty grotto]

[inner onyx]

stack 3 bastion, a brace, IF, and BS?

[sand egret]

basically nothing has changed really

[inner onyx]

for primaries?

or 3 bastion, 3 brace

[sand egret]

you want a DC if you can get it

[lusty grotto]

Where's dc

[inner onyx]

oh ya sorry dc

[modern brook]

dig the WA

[inner onyx]

3 bastion, 1 DC, 2 brace?

[sand egret]

bastion is super good if you're in M+ a solid amount of time

[uneven mason]

So guys

[sand egret]

other than that, yeah

[inner onyx]

ya mainly dungeonss orry

[uneven mason]

I hate to say it

[inner onyx]

sorry*

[sand egret]

that's it

[inner onyx]

didnt' clarify

not raid tanking

[uneven mason]

but Method is using us as meta

[sand egret]

you on point then

[lusty grotto]

I hope it's not sco

And if it is I hope he's not indom

[inner onyx]

was curious if there was a standout trait for dungeonos amongst the defensivess, outside of DC and Bastiono

[sand egret]

not really

[inner onyx]

IF seems good for the damage

[sand egret]

those are the main ones tbh

[inner onyx]

kk

[modern brook]

jeez

[sand egret]

IF technically scales better in M+ due to tons of auto's and less globals spent on SS

[inner onyx]

true

[sand egret]

but like....not worth the brainspace to go back and forth on it

[modern brook]

^

[inner onyx]

kk thanks guys

[modern brook]

I say BFI better still

You already deal mongo damage in AoE

[inner onyx]

was just wndoering if reaping had shifted around priorities at all

[modern brook]

get soe stronger st

[inner onyx]

ya true that lol

[sand egret]

nope, just makes our strength (aoe destruction) more valuable

[modern brook]

^

it makes us more attractive tanks

the flip side of that is you really need to know where the fuck your reapings are going to spawn

cause we cant grip or otherwise control them

[uneven mason]

^^^^

[sand egret]

@uneven mason they swap to a war now?

[modern brook]

so positioning super important

[uneven mason]

For Jaina

they were using war

[sand egret]

ahh

[uneven mason]

at least last I looked

but yeah nerfs inc if method is using us

obv

[modern brook]

For dungeons I suggest triple Bom/DC or triple bom + DC +2x bfi

[uneven mason]

warriors can never be meta

too many fears of "VANILLA BIAS"

[modern brook]

If we're talking 415 preferred loadouts

[signal plover]

Justwait on the warr not sco btw @lusty grotto

[uneven mason]

Sco is benched ya?

[sand egret]

he's on monk

[uneven mason]

RIP

[signal plover]

He was for Mekka cuz double blood

Believe he's on brm for jaina

[sand egret]

yeah, it's brm/war now

[uneven mason]

no surprise

[sand egret]

i just want to watch justwait

[signal plover]

I think right now for jaina tanks it's about smoothing massive ice shard dmg

[sand egret]

screw these other PoVs

[uneven mason]

we can block ice shards ftw

[signal plover]

Ya

[fast knot]

I know it's recommended to equip items based on item level but is there a range if something with a lower ilvl drops with a socket?

[inner onyx]

ya i main fury but tank sometimes to get into lower 10~ keys

struggling with reaping

[fast knot]

non-weapon

[uneven mason]

5illvls for armor peices, 10 for rings

[inner onyx]

i don't really know hwo to handle the stacks

[uneven mason]

~

YMMV

[modern brook]

reaping is an affix you should be handling outside the key imo

[uneven mason]

reaping wat

reaping stacks?

[modern brook]

the debuff

[uneven mason]

🤔

[modern brook]

the blue one

[uneven mason]

oh

[modern brook]

idk its name

[inner onyx]

the stacks one of the assholes puts oono

[uneven mason]

don't think I've noticed

[modern brook]

1. dont stand in purple circles

[uneven mason]

^

[modern brook]

2. get healers to dispell it

[inner onyx]

i dont' even know how it works cause as dps i don't really deal with it

[uneven mason]

[modern brook]

🤷

my healer dispels and mass dispells on cd

[uneven mason]

dispell

[inner onyx]

spell ref works?

ah dispel makes sense

[uneven mason]

on some of them

[inner onyx]

guess my healer was just pog

[modern brook]

like its not all your job

I'm assuming we're talking about the blue one

If you're getting the purple one

stop being a monkey and get out of the circles

[inner onyx]

ya the one that does insane damage and stacks up

not purp circle

[modern brook]

yeah the blue one is a healer problem

if you're dying to it he needs to step up

[uneven mason]

[inner onyx]

okok

[uneven mason]

but most of that shit is avidable

[modern brook]

canyou spell reflect grave bolt?

[sand egret]

yep

[uneven mason]

shockwave too

yes

[sand egret]

but its an RNG target

[modern brook]

huh til

[uneven mason]

stun that shit

[inner onyx]

last q you guys mind helping me pick rings and trinkets?

[uneven mason]

ivll

[sand egret]

THIS GUY

[uneven mason]

ilvl

[sand egret]

lol

[uneven mason]

ITEM LEVEL

kidding, whats your options itschilly

[inner onyx]

i have lower ilvl stuff iwth avoidance

[sand egret]

but chances are ilvl is going to be out answer as my astute colleague pointed out

take the higher

[inner onyx]

and some that are better itemized, with haste and such but others that are worse but higher ilvl

[modern brook]

ilvl is better itemization

[modern brook]

like really wanna stress that

[inner onyx]

i like discs and mchimbas bandage

[supple path]

If it's a 5 ilvl gap and you're going best stats + avoidance vs worse stats, it's arguable, but unless it's that blatant, nope

[tardy lion]

More overall stats > less overall stats

[inner onyx]

one of the seal of questionable loyalties has

73 avoidance

[sand egret]

Knot and Syrnge btw

[modern brook]

agreed

knot and syrnge no question

I dont know the rings off name though

[lusty grotto]

bandage is crapola

[primal crypt]

🍆

[inner onyx]

knot and syringe eh

[primal crypt]

Knot syringe

[inner onyx]

okok

[uneven mason]

Sinister Glad

[primal crypt]

Your best

[uneven mason]

is someb aller

[lusty grotto]

is that the str one

[inner onyx]

i thought disc might have value in dungeons cause the dmg scales for trash and reaping

[lusty grotto]

on use

[modern brook]

The socket on the ring is awkward

since rings dont give mainstat

[sand egret]

is the glad on-use?

[modern brook]

Ilvls are all 2ndary and stamina

[inner onyx]

no @lusty grotto i wish

the one that procs like 1k+ vers

[uneven mason]

its vers with str proc

[lusty grotto]

oh

f that

[inner onyx]

ya what mactier said

[uneven mason]

its good

[lusty grotto]

there's a glad one that has on use str that is solid

[uneven mason]

at that ilvl with socket

[inner onyx]

800 primary stat, and socket it's decent

[sand egret]

i mean at 395

[lusty grotto]

oh for sure

[uneven mason]

its really fuckng good

[lusty grotto]

only due to ilvl

[sand egret]

i'd revise and say: Glad + Knot

[primal crypt]

Whats the CD

[inner onyx]

pop knot with avatar, and demo?

[sand egret]

yeah

[modern brook]

knot will be up every avatar-ish

[primal crypt]

cd on the glad

[supple path]

Rings look like a pretty clean 400 orante + 395 commander's signet, regardless of socket on the 385.

[inner onyx]

procs for 20 sec, not sure what the internal is prob 1.5 if i had to guess

maybe 1min

ok ok

[primal crypt]

Ehhhhh

[lusty grotto]

cd on the glad one that i said? cause yeah that's a proc

the one he has

[primal crypt]

Id still go knot

[modern brook]

what are the stats on the 390 socket?

arguably better than 395

I dont know them by name

[inner onyx]

it's 1.5 procs per minute

[lusty grotto]

sockety ring

[inner onyx]

that's actually nutty

since it lasts 20sec

the insignia

[lusty grotto]

its only good cause of ilvl

[sand egret]

1.5 is really good

[lusty grotto]

as opposed to your other trinkets

[sand egret]

ppm

at 20 seconds...

considering the alch trinket is 1 ppm

[inner onyx]

has ~50% uptime if i sit on boss the whole time

just checked some logs

[sand egret]

yeah, that's legit man

that's really solid

[primal crypt]

Ok that's legit

Jesus

50%

[modern brook]

basically ~400 str

[inner onyx]

so basically 800 str up 50% every min

[primal crypt]

Over how long?

[sand egret]

these wack ass bustas calling it before gettin the deets

[old night]

How is the eternal alchemist stone as far as trinkets go

[inner onyx]

it procs 800 primary stat for 20 sec

[old night]

I noticed @shut summit has one equipped

[lusty grotto]

wait didnt you say it proc'd versa?

[inner onyx]

checking logs for my dps raiding cause i use it, it has around 40-50% uptime depending on the fight

[primal crypt]

Alche trinket is solid

[lusty grotto]

im confused

[modern brook]

i think the alch trinket is one of our better ones

[primal crypt]

Very solid

[inner onyx]

no it has 183 vers stat

[lusty grotto]

oh lach trinket

[inner onyx]

800 str proc

[modern brook]

@lusty grotto i fucked up

[old night]

they hard to come by? says that you have to learn it from making one

[modern brook]

its verse stat w/ str proc

[lusty grotto]

str proc hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

sexy

[inner onyx]

pretty easy Filmstrips

[uneven mason]

str proc is like 50% Uptime on another stack of Bloodsport

[primal crypt]

It's simple to make

[modern brook]

@inner onyx you can read it as basically ~200vers + ~400 str

[inner onyx]

if you are alchemist just need 15 tidal core to make 385, 20 breath of bwon samdi to make 400

[uneven mason]

extra 2800 on your IPs

[modern brook]

so if you have an on proc that gives more stats then that

[primal crypt]

Just need to farm dungeons

[modern brook]

you replace it with that

[inner onyx]

makes sense @modern brook

[modern brook]

(not accounting for socket)

[inner onyx]

thanks guys appreciate the help

seriously

[lusty grotto]

@modern brook

KEK

[uneven mason]

but yeha Knot is amazing as a extra CD

[modern brook]

😡

[inner onyx]

was using avoidance ring cause didn't know what was what

[uneven mason]

use it between SB uptime during auto attacks

😄

[inner onyx]

never clued in how strong knot could be

[modern brook]

I'm going to become a valkyr

just to fucking ban u nim

😠

[lusty grotto]

nuuu

pls no ban

[inner onyx]

hoping to nab a 400+ knot on the next rotation

[lusty grotto]

btw im team limit, f u guys

lord sco is a no from me dawg

[primal crypt]

Im team korea now

[modern brook]

^

hell yeah team korea

[primal crypt]

They 8/9

[lusty grotto]

hmmm

[modern brook]

im team late

[primal crypt]

Actually in the race

[modern brook]

Just kidding im always a sense fanboy

[lusty grotto]

we are all sense boys

[inner onyx]

390 ring of infinite void not better than ornate or signet>

with socket

[primal crypt]

I like Travex and Deswind too

[modern brook]

I think the 390 socket might be better than the 395

[inner onyx]

195 crit, 245 mast?

[modern brook]

it depends on the stats

I dont know them

[inner onyx]

• 40 haste from socket

[modern brook]

410 should be used on stamina alone

[primal crypt]

Sense, Travex, and Deswind

Top ballers

[lusty grotto]

stop sucking up yamo

[inner onyx]

ornate is 249 crit, 209 haste. signet is 199 crit, 250 haste

[uneven mason]

Yamo

[lusty grotto]

i've caught you

[uneven mason]

Sense ran a BDK in the first MDI

never forget

[lusty grotto]

on that note, im team Sal

😃

[old night]

@inner onyx wait

[lusty grotto]

shut up, nobody is sucking up to them

what?

i didnt say anything

[old night]

i was reading and it said that its a random proc that you get the recipe

that you have to start with a tidal, proc the recipe for the 2nd, the proc for the eternal

is that right?

[modern brook]

@inner onyx Hows your SB uptime

[lusty grotto]

no

if its like the bs shit

you craft 1

you learn the next tier recipe automatically

[inner onyx]

SB uptime?

[primal crypt]

I aint suck nothin

[modern brook]

like do you have problems maintaing shieldblock when you need it

[inner onyx]

uhhh i don't think so

[primal crypt]

Just mutual respek

[inner onyx]

i could improve

[lusty grotto]

what about yogurt coffee though yamo

[modern brook]

390 socket then

[primal crypt]

Yogurt coffee was a bust

[lusty grotto]

YIKES

[primal crypt]

Nvragain

[old night]

oh really? you only have to learn one?

[modern brook]

FUCKING

BANNED 😠

STOP

[lusty grotto]

hahahahaha

[modern brook]

oh my god

[inner onyx]

it's generally mechanically failing at it, not lacking rage or charges or GCD speed

[primal crypt]

[modern brook]

stop with the god damn yogurt coffee

[lusty grotto]

bull triggering achieved

[primal crypt]

Yikes

[old night]

S T E L L A A R T O I S

[lusty grotto]

jesus christ film

[inner onyx]

i have a 380 thorwoven band too

[lusty grotto]

youll summon paw

[modern brook]

380 too low

[inner onyx]

150 haste, 272 vers ,+40 socket

[modern brook]

390 socket competes with 395

410 should be used on stamina

[old night]

SO ANYWAY, I just need to craft one of each?

to get the eternal?

[inner onyx]

kk

@old night when you craft 385, it gives you recipe for 400

[modern brook]

its hard to sayy which is definitevely better between 390s and 395

[inner onyx]

craft 4, get 415

[old night]

dank

[inner onyx]

fair

[modern brook]

it depends a lot on your stat line

[old night]

ty

[lusty grotto]

yes film

[inner onyx]

i'll play around

[modern brook]

390s doesnt compete with 400 though

for the record

[honest canopy]

Bullfango

[inner onyx]

stat line is 18.88% crit, 18.21% haste, 28.85 mast, 5.94/2.97 verrs. with 290.

[modern brook]

our secondaries are very close; we only liek haste because its moreuseful in more situations `

[honest canopy]

Best nick

[uneven mason]

TUralyon

[modern brook]

I am the best ty :^)

[inner onyx]

haste dips to like 17% with 395

[uneven mason]

I'll never be #1 cause fuckin Des ><

[lusty grotto]

please don't list your stats

[uneven mason]

@inner onyx literally I just posted a screenshot of the only stat that matters

[modern brook]

THe descussion is 390w/ haste socket or 395 ring

[uneven mason]

390w socket

[inner onyx]

word

[modern brook]

they're close is the answer

[lusty grotto]

i agree with mac

[uneven mason]

sockets on rings are 10ilvls

every other slot mebbie 5

I'd say 5 on cloak

and probably ~5 on armor pieces

[modern brook]

I say 5 on cloak and wrist; 5 on rings

itemization on othe rshit

[uneven mason]

mmhmm

[lusty grotto]

nah

10 on rings

imo

[modern brook]

I'd take a 395 w/ haste over a 390 w/o haste and socket

[uneven mason]

whatever, I'll wear a 395 over a 390 with socket

[inner onyx]

i lose about 3% haste tho, crit doesn't move much, mastery goes up 5%. i feel like losing the haste won't feel good. for a bit more mastery. but i am in dungeons only.

[uneven mason]

cause I go big numbers

[modern brook]

^^^

[lusty grotto]

once again

[modern brook]

I'm tryna be BIG equipped

[uneven mason]

don't worry about your %

[lusty grotto]

secondaries don't matter

[honest canopy]

I allways go for ilvl

And

High haste on ringd

[modern brook]

If you're ever doubting yourself

Ilvl>haste>everything else

[inner onyx]

well as fury i know the difference of how 17%~ haste feels vs 20%+~

[modern brook]

its 90% of the answer

[lusty grotto]

fury is something else

[inner onyx]

figured it would help offer an idea of teh tradeoff

[uneven mason]

I Mean, if you wanna feelycraft

[modern brook]

and the last 10% wont make or break your key

[lusty grotto]

we don't care about secondaries

[modern brook]

to use starcraft terms

:just play better:

[uneven mason]

But yeah, prot is literall a mongo wrapped in metal

[daring marlin]

gimme ilvl

[uneven mason]

we don't give a fuck, just hit me

[modern brook]

🔨 🐒 🛡

I made my character

[daring marlin]

my armor is over 10k with two 385 asserites

[inner onyx]

word thanks again guys

[daring marlin]

need new asserites

I wanna be over 300k unbuffed too

[uneven mason]

get more ilvl

be like me

[modern brook]

I'm only 386 :^(

[lusty grotto]

i need ASSerites too 😢

[daring marlin]

I’m almost 400

[modern brook]

im not getting loot this teir

[daring marlin]

fucking asserite won’t drop

[modern brook]

I got a wrist

from my fucking weekly

[lusty grotto]

i havent even done the raid yet

[modern brook]

and ~300 gold from the raid so far

no other loot drops since S2

[lusty grotto]

i got a belt 😢 from weekly

im blacksmith mang

[uneven mason]

I crafted my legs and belt

[lusty grotto]

y u do dis wow

[uneven mason]

considering swapping to alchemy

to get a better trinket

[daring marlin]

I got legs from weekly

[uneven mason]

using knot and vial

[modern brook]

I cant even craft the trinket mac

lol

I'm like 100/150

[daring marlin]

and 400 with a socket belt

I dropped bs for engi

[uneven mason]

All of my alts

[modern brook]

and i have 130gold after last nights keys

[uneven mason]

are herbalists

[modern brook]

:^(

[uneven mason]

thats all I do

[modern brook]

some one donate to make bull great again fund

[uneven mason]

is run WQ and farm herbs for $$$$

on my alts

my 394 Blood DK

is the best fucking herb farming machine ever

[modern brook]

Druids >???

[uneven mason]

Blood DKs get water walking

Skygolem

[modern brook]

travel form?

[lusty grotto]

skygolumsss

[uneven mason]

mounted speed

• skygolem

Druids can suck a dong

[modern brook]

why are dks the best class in the game

[uneven mason]

they're not

unless you're really hard up on picking flowers

[modern brook]

||it was a joke||

[lusty grotto]

i think you misstyped warrior

oh

[uneven mason]

|| I know ||

[modern brook]

||:^)||

[uneven mason]

|| mine wasn't ||

[modern brook]

||:^(||

[lusty grotto]

nimchippy is still in his garrison

rip

hes a druid

rip

110

[modern brook]

Am i on teamchip still?

or was i perma banned?

[uneven mason]

get a

glove enchant

and level by picking flowers

[lusty grotto]

you are on teamchip

[honest canopy]

Friends

[modern brook]

hella

[uneven mason]

you'll hit 120 about the same speed as doing the storyline shit

[honest canopy]

Friday serious talks now

[uneven mason]

Fryday is for memes

wheres Sal

[honest canopy]

My warrior is a Night Warrior nelf, female

[uneven mason]

wtf

[honest canopy]

I wanna swap tho

[lusty grotto]

i wish i had more free time mac but i dont haha

[uneven mason]

NE best race

[honest canopy]

Suggestion

[modern brook]

not alliance :^)

[uneven mason]

"Deathless death skips"

[lusty grotto]

stupid broken alliance

[modern brook]

jokes aside DID is probably best prot race on alliance

KT human tied with NE for close 2nd

[lusty grotto]

idk

[inner onyx]

last q >_> if anyone uses the engi helm

[lusty grotto]

DiD and NE seem amazing for M+

[inner onyx]

which defensive is bettter

cauterize or absorbotron

[honest canopy]

Did?

[lusty grotto]

kt only for looks

[modern brook]

dark irion dwarf

[honest canopy]

🤔

[uneven mason]

@modern brook NE is literally the best race

[honest canopy]

Ah

[modern brook]

KT get haymaker

[uneven mason]

SHadowmeld

[honest canopy]

I swapped from DID

[uneven mason]

is fucking OP for M+

[modern brook]

which should be a fucking warrior baseline

[honest canopy]

Shadowmeld is fun and excellebt

[uneven mason]

so is fireblood

can confirm, being able to go SSJ from eating bleeds

is a blast.

[honest canopy]

I am a bit tempted to wait for kultiran

Make a jaina warrior

[uneven mason]

you should

[lusty grotto]

😦

[uneven mason]

free knockback

[modern brook]

Honestly though

[uneven mason]

"jaina warrior"

[honest canopy]

Wonder whos jainas PT are

[modern brook]

Go on looks

[lusty grotto]

a t h i c c jaina warrior?

[modern brook]

doesnt matter

[uneven mason]

is that what we're calling hairless Pandaren?

[modern brook]

my favorite part about kul tirans

[lusty grotto]

lets not be furries here mac

[modern brook]

is that in all the boralus instances

the most underused model

is kul tiran female

[lusty grotto]

i wouldnt know

i know that person you broke out of jail is t h i c c

my job buys IPAs every month

sierra nevada though :\

kinda getting tired of them