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My keys go alot better after few beers
so I haven't played since before christmas - can I switch back to prot from my DK yet? :p
LOL
bruh
you're gone forever
Dk is garbage just switch to prot
banned
You could have before Christmas forehead
yeah mike
silly DKs
you can have your badge back
we just out here mitigating shit
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ok last thing on beer. You all are allowed to drink whatever right. we're all shield boys
like "naw fam what damage"
but if yall ever come at me with mikes hard or smirnoff ice
except stella filmstrips, be honest
you're dead to me
FeelsBadMan we got a new dk tank in our guild and nobody wants to do keys with him and they all just want me
lol, nice
@oblique garnet same things on my guild
what if im cosplaying F&F, and just Corona all day
my old roommate who never drank (his guild was also stuck on normal taloc for 3+ months) came home once and pounded down a sixer of vanilla smirnoff ice
I just got sick of not getting groups, which is why i switched out to my DK - all my friends have quit this game
Corona is pretty good tho
DK is actually trash but grip makes em meta invincible
after a few margaritas and a wedge of lime its solid
Guys what's better Bigwigs or dbm ? ๐ค
hey man i got drunk on quite a few smirnoff's when i was younger
corona is literally a beer marketed around the concept that it's gone bad.
like that's why they have a lime
meh, they're pretty fun, self heal's fun - just a different way of tanking
Actually running m+ with (Prot war, dh, dh, demo-lock, r-druid) We melt
Monks are dogshit boring though
cuz they dont wanna shell for opaque bottles
Ppls opinions on alcohol in here are like a college freshman debate
@steady fiber i prefer bigwig
Double dh + fire mage and rdruid is so good group
im just fucking with you paw
Fire mage is actually blasting since you dont have to kite as prot
ya know what's not boring tho?
for me at least
watching DPS cry
when they're getting out dpsed by a tank? xD
wait wait wait
I cant beat our dpses anymore feelsbadman
nothing like hopping into a premade group and the DH goes "Finally a challenge"
@oblique garnet are mages good now?
Idk our firemage is blasting
Did 380k on a reaping pack leaving both dhs in distance
ok looks like Magechip will return to the fray
like a few weeks ago
ya know who was wrecking in my run last night, this Ret
man this dude brought the heat
hold up, a few weeks ago you guys were saying how fire traits just got nerfed
and now they got buffed?
REt are like supreme DHs
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ngl it's the first time in a long time i've actually almost had a dps grab aggro on pull
even my DH friend who is always #1
when lust dropped this Ret went through the roof
Yeah they have massive burst
i have 0 idea how Ret works
And then they just be mediocre at best
3 button class
but jesus it was like 60K or some shit
Yup
curious - what ilvl are most people sitting at now? also, what's the new affix like?
fun
402 atm
my warr, DK, and Monk were all sitting at 383 when I stopped playing
like total opposite of Infested
oh nice - infested was pointless
this is just where everyone needs to flex their big boy pants
healers need to be on top of dispels, everyone needs to watch the chaos, and deeps needs to pump
ye
it's just a huge fuckfest and i love every second of it
especially that purple shit on the ground that almost killed me like 20 times
fucking f.lux
yeah, Lost Souls
Thw trick is just to keep moving while clapping
yeah
its no big deal, i just didnt notice it on the first few times
last week for example
Eh I did reaps at UR Bridge just fine
It turns into literally invisible if its on stairs
Hmm
It feels like island expedition AEing honestly.
Which stairs specifically
ah ok, sounds easy enough
Oh
50%party
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Hey guys! is there any guide for m+ warrior tank? i'm looking for best stats, traits, trinkets etc.

Wowhead is a great place to look for information in everything WoW.
What's wrong with it?
Sincerely asking where the inaccuracies are. I'm not trying to be an ignorant prick. I promise.
i just saw it wasn't written by marok anymore and that's it
Ah.
just have to trust the author
and we know marok writes for IV
so thats the general go to for prot
Right on. I have always used WH and it's seemed accurate with my personal findings. Thanks, I'll look into IV myself.
the biggest thing i think
is that marok is here and you can directly ask him for math behind his claims
how do you get that feedback from some random dude that they listed
same with Archim
for dps specs
and at least Achi is still in WH
so those are good
That feel when your co-tank lets you take a full grong combo and you still kill the boss
full Grong combo has the potential to not be very lethal so it isnt that crazy. If he does smash>bite>smash it's not even CD necessary other than the throw.
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double bleed definitely hurts, but isn't suicidal at least. Good stuff ๐
Quick question, how good/bad is this one ? :p
good for dps bad defensively
Well I don't care about defensively, thats what my healer is for ๐
So I guess I'll keep it
what trinkets should i be lookin for M+ wise
are any of the raid ones good or keep using higher ilvl of the shit i rocked last season
I'd say its decent. Depends on where fights are risky though, doesnt really help much against burst but over the course of a fight it definitely does a decent bit of coverage.
its decent
Should I replace jes or Rezans for it?
Jes is 5 ilvl higher
Especially thinking about high lvl m+
IF I'd say
guys, a question.. Callous Reprisal trait, if u stack it, does it only increase revenge dmg, or does it also multiple the dmg reduction?
I remember people discussing it as if 3 CR gave 1.5-3-4.5 DR but Ive never seen any proof one way or another
this was also way back at the start of 8.0 so grain of salt
interesting
i wonder if this is still the case, or not.
cause 3 or 4.5 dmg reduction wouldnt be that badf
CR doesnt stack pretty sure
so it just icnreases revenge dmg, but thats it?
Yeah
the damage reduc stacks
The damage reduction does stack
Eh, most traits you'd be right. It's an exception to the rule is all.
yea havent seen anything / didn't try myself, if you have logs can PM to me
Sure
i really do wonder if i want to go with 2x CR, or bloodsport instead of the second CR
this is why i also was asking if it stacks or not.
Assuming you're talking about M+, CR is pretty good, since it's both an offensive and defensive gain (and pretty respectable gains at that)
i'd be inclined to say CR is slightly better
but bloodsport is solid for defensiveness
depends on what you need in your runs
understood. This is helpful, thank you gentlemen
if you're doing alright defensive-wise go for CR, otherwise Bloodsport - in summary
I think bloodsports worth it if you have BoM
sure
specifically over a 2nd CR
dunno, more dps is more dps
yeh, but big IP w/ leech during monky mode is a big deal imo
second cr imo
hes talking about m+ though
IDT CR matters that much in M+ TBH
during bom i go tc revenge, tc, revenge etc
its more damage than bloodsport
and revenge does big damage during bom
same thing
Bom = big ookin Monkey
BOM->STOMP->BOOM->STOMP->SWORD->STOMP
JK BROS I KNOW IP IS OFF GCD NOW
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but burning all your rage on a triple revenge cast without demo shout cast, or SS
YIKES
Why dont you just get procs like a good prot warrior?
I don't know if there's anything more heartbreaking as a warrior than to jump off a cliff intending to heroic leap to safety and then you get "No path available" and die.
welcome to how many expansions ago?
The most heartbreak i had in Wow (not tied to wawrrior) is getting turtles to water
and while i was doing that
Anchor weed was spawned
@warm plinth be engineering, then u can glider ๐
lolol.
not as heartbreaking as coming down from skyhold to africa
ONLY in the shard i am in when getting turtles to water
so when i leave the wq it despawns:
"Oh great, let me just jump down to Broken Shore" Blizzard: "lulnope, you're going to a hillside in Azsuna bitch"
yeah i had that happen bull
its def the worst feeling
Honestly that's just class fantasy
shoulda killed all around you
HNNNNGGGGGGGGG splat
missed opportunity
yes i agree
I guess I don't get quite as excited about herbs as you guys do
I have a grand total of 300 gold on my main
so any time things that will increase my gold income by whole number multiples come around im on that
JESUS CHRIST bull
I've sold grays for more gold than i currently own
you're suspended from teamchip
How do you have 300 gold
I didnt even know i was o team chip
Like, I don't understand.
Do you spend your time on WoW just running around Dazar'alor/Boralus?
turn in your badge, if you want it back you will need to pay a fee of 300 gold
I like
Why am i dps for teamchip anyways
only do stuff that consumes consumables
ie: m+
no farming for anything
so im only spending
never gaining
i alsod ont vendor gear
cause teamchip is all prot, and you are dps
I thought prot was DPS
yes but late is dps of dps
late = f'(dps)
Teamchip needs to recreate the 5 warrior CoS that Levko and company did at the end of Legion
RIP
teamchip is an international enterprise
indeed
Is his deeps good enough to transcend region?
hes 50 off sense according to this morning
hmmmmmmm
he is in our hearts
This is the season i will beat sense
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i will take what is rightfully mine
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oof
Shots fired
EU more like ew
officer, id like to report 3 crimes
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nimpachimp
Bootsoupclapchip
feelsbadman actually wiping on hc
yes
we pulled monkey 30 times last night :^(
my guild group cant clear hc but i did it on pug
whoa
I dont think the raids that bad
Up to oppulence doesnt require a lot of team effort
see, this is why I'm so hesitant to play again
or just generally "People"
hey im just happy if im #1 on meters
just more of em in raids
do what i did
just be an M+ boi
yyeah I unsubbed during ToS becauese of that
just search for guild groups
yeah, honestly I love m+ too
I think its especially bad for Tanking pugs
usually if you do well, you get to add them on bnet
and would m+ constantly, if they fixed azerite rewards for m+
and its very rarely "the tanks are sick"
what do you mean fixed?
the reward structure isn't bad now
You right
I mean, making it so it's not like 10 weeks of chests for a mythic level azerite piece
yo
it's like 3 tbh
The weather says 33
^
WoW is trolling the fuck out of me hardcore
Thereโs no way itโs 33
yeah its not bad to get azerite now
^this
just yolo random lottery
Ah there we go
yeah i mean i'm going for the random 415s first, THEN i'm going to save for my specific pieces
you do 15s you get piece in 2 weeks ish
With windchill itโs 19
You save ~1 .9 rolls in price
That makes more sense
last I saw it was like 675 for a 385 piece and doing a 10 gets you lke 70ish?
did they change the prices/rewards?
yes
season 1 values is what you're referring to
-2ยฐF here, was -17ยฐF yesterday
because they introduced the system before they wanted to give u access to shit because blizzard
ah ok, yeah I haven't played since before christmas
yeah the TLDR is its way easier
and logging in to 75 TR when the cost was 675
r u in chicago
Does anyone know how much more titan things you get for past 11? (11 gives 667)
made me immediately log back out
Chiraq yes
WoW be like y u ditch warrior go back
Yeah mike it was introduced early
-_-
i mean a) you'll be swimming in upgrades since all ilvls got racheted up and b) the azerite returns got inflated as well
THe system is supposed to be catch up / optimization
so it's not a bad time to come back
Like I get that BFA has problems
so without it there was actually no way to get it
385s stayed at 165
the wow community is the most retarded thing in existence
it has no fucking clue what it wants
@lusty grotto i say chiraq because sometimes its hard to say "yep fireworks" or "yep gunshots"
and anytime you point that out it has a fucking panic attack
i mean, I was sitting at 383 ilvl using a 355 helm
oh, i wasnt asking you tsar
but no worries, there's gunshots where i live now too P
:( just live on 2nd floor or higher in old brick building
anyway, if you were thinking about a time to come back, now is the best time as any
meh, maybe I'll check it out tonight - my issue is even the guys I was running m+ with all quit when I did
and prot ๐
lol
meh i pug M+ and i still have fun
join teamchip, carry my alts
I have 3 tanks sitting at 380+ that I can hope back into
I actually have to find a group of people to play with again
hop*
blade and yamo carry me from time to time
Y'all are horde aren't you?
yeah
ol' Scrubchip
yeet
nimchipadin is a saint blade, A SAINT
my prot warr, DK and monk are all around 380
what're the affixes this week?
there are no affixes
they just forgot to add them
its ez mode week
raging volcanic
(raging volcanic)
yet no fort
so its legit free as fuck
yeah, tyran, raging, volcanic
hahaha nice
and did teh rewards from m+ go up in s2?
this wasn't reaps unfortunately
of course
Anyone have a link to the M+ weekly chest TR scaling?
rofl
but this vers one I got
yo
40% uptime
on 700 ver
carry my alts griff
400 base from +10
kinda into it
Dude I haven't played much in a while, idk how much I'll be carrying anyone lmao
@daring marlin
good
10 is ~ a 13 yeah
kk, I mean iw as running 13s back in december, shouldn't be an issue
- like emissarry shit is WAY more interesting since that stuff scales to 385 as well
dont worry griff, the muscle memory will come back in 1 pull
plus no shitty infested
yea infested was cool
NAY
for the first dungeon
YAY
@sand egret I like that one
after that? nope
I have it at 385
40% uptime
It's anywhere between 40-45% uptime for me
yeah i got a 385 with socket
pretty good shit imo
wtf is this hog mount
i got it and deleted it, not gonna lie i didnt even think about trying it out
I have 370 vers
dafuq
I'm still rocking 385 alch trinket and that
it's the yearly one, Year of the Pig
I'm Knot + that at 385
I'll be farming a 400+ vial
im knot and.... fuck
i dunno what that even is
wut up
you think I can maintain 144fps in a raid?
gsync
after the latest driverrs
yup but you need a 10 or 20 series
I'm well aware
yeah blade that's kinda bullshit, they have a real list of them on reddit
I would still rather have 144
tbf it's simply a list of ones they've actually gone and tested
trust me with freesync working you won't notice the difference anyway
it'll still "work" (read you can manually turn it on) for any monitor
ya
it's just not "guaranteed"
my friends with ultrawide acers were giddy
yeah i got an acer too
they say its working great
it's lovely
is it freesync?
cache rewards up to 385
world quest rewards 355 lmao
yo..
its not a decenctivization
fuck world quests now though
it's keeping a scaling sctructure
theres no point to scale the world quests to have anything above 385 gear
They'll probably bump caches to 400 eventually
WQ are literally there so you can go from fresh 120 > 350 so you can start doing M0
Like they did during Uldir.
they aren't meant for others outside of that band
yeah wqs are good to get expulsom too
so saying they don't scale to you is like saying the Tutorial is dumb because its telling you stuff you already know
I mean I'd agree with that @sand egret if they didn't scale off your ilvl
even more so
the issue is you can gear so quickly that WQs become useless
it scaling prolongs the progression phase, the sense of improvement. It's a nuance that honestly has very little bearing on a lot of the playerbase but it's equally important to those whom it does affect
they have a use
Question in terms of tanking where would warriors rank now adays as tanks?
it's just the use isn't evergreen
and not everybody is in a raiding progression guild that's willing to boost their friend's alts
we are #1
S type tank
there's your answer... totally non-biased because we are a warrior discord ๐ ๐
totally
yes
yeah, you come here to turn that "often" into bitching about that one DH
or in my case
random Ret from Ragnaros
from ragnaros?
Wut
holy fuck he was from rag?
Pics or it didn't happen
brazilian jesus dude
Some ret pulling 200k on reaping
blade you should buy the powerball
yeah that's realistic
i wish i remembered what it was being top dps in reaping adds :<
the fact that he was from ragnaros is the part that's impressive
Yeah, like getting beaten on aoe dps happens from time to time, but a good player being from Ragnaros doesn't.
Surprising he got an invite to a group with that server tag
I had to get that early clap going
not all of us have that blocking addon
im telling ya
there are still some good players in Azralon for example
Thatโs an insta decline from me, Rag is a big no
Now Blade is gonna purposely invite Rag people in the future just in the hopes of getting that diamond in the rough
its the thrill
blade
Ret is legit as FUCK now
i gamble with the russians all the time
with empyrean and light's decree
you never know
Rag is like the EU's Russians
they might be exorsus players
true
just gotta roll the dice sometimes
Makes me wanna play my pally as ret and have him be my M+ DPS
Let's not forget about Quel'thalas
I refuse to play my Warlock seriously in M+ cuz I won't be touching Demo.
you people have too strong prejudice bois
let me be honest though
No
i dont get as pissed off when a BR fails and does his shenanigans, than i do with a retarded NA player
i guess because it's expected
like I don't expect my dks to grip, but when they do its ๐
nuuuuuuuuuuuuu
helm off ivus is amazing too
gl next time you get him
my pally didn't get it ๐ฆ
i legit contemplated leveling my paladin for about 10 seconds the other night
Did him on 4 toons with seals. Got nothing. ๐ข
then it was like 2-hander fantasy.....why not play Arms? shield tank....why not play prot?
Arms though
arms is fucking arms
shut up guilford
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Arms is OG
listen yall
I ain't touchin Fury
How's the new alchemist's stone? I doubt it's any good just simply because it's locked at 355 but might as well ask
as far as i'm concerned, Warrior is a 2 spec class
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it's good Griff
It's not locked at 355 though
prot and fury?
it scales to BoD levels now and it's a 1ppm
Oh
isn't Fury a DH spec?
What do you mean it scales?
I lied
new recipes via new raid mats yada
I guess the one I see is 385
it's solid
But I donโt see a 400 one
gotta craft the 385 one first I believe
It's 1ppm and scales with haste. So if you have 10% haste it'd be 1.1ppm
ya know what else scales with haste....
How much tidal core typically drops? Just one per dungeon?
1 guaranteed from last boss on M0; randomly possible from last boss of heroics. And I think one drops from m+ chest maybe? I would think so anyway. Not sure if it's 1 for each person or 1 overall though.
i dunno that weapon speed..... #JustVanillaThings
Arathi didn't change; Darkshore is 400
Like 400 period or 400 for the quest
400 for the quest and boss
its too bad ivus azerite still has 3 rings tho
Ivus azerite is 5 rings
I'm literally looking at the journal right now :p
i checked on tuesday
He's up for NA alliance right now
NOOOO
He wouldn't have been 400 for you anyway I don't believe. Not until next cycle.
EU Alliance got the real shaft. They brought up the warfront almost right before the update, so they didn't get the 400 gear from the warfront lol
i guess it was the same for NA horde
Arathi warfront shit does still only have 4 rings though, even though it's 370. Inb4 Blizz removes azerite from the loot table.
Since that's what they do instead of making the drops better.
I don't really get upset by their changes, but I did get annoyed when I read the developer note on the removal of Azerite rewards from the assault quests.
Like they were doing us a goddamn favor by taking it away from the chests
Yo! How do you guys survive Jadefire Masters HC? When we kil the dragon the phoenix hits for 80-100k and completely destroys me. What am I missing ?
Anyone else getting issues with Grong ? He's doing like combo > tantrum > still launching me after tantrum instead of being kicked
vial of animated blood any good for anything?
Just crafted the JC ring. got 300 vers 160 mastery. worth or get mats to craft one with haste?
400 only
if you have mats go for it
if not, dont stress over it
secondaries are not worth sacrificing ilvl over and the most you could do with rings since they dont have armor or str, is around 10 ilvls
alright thx, im saving it for now ๐
What engi is required for the helm?
I think I'm gonna pick that up on my Warrior and drop BS.
I have 400 belt with a socket and 410 legs already
Ugh
brez is solid though
Complete a m+ and get nothing
That's the plan.
Feels bad
yeah i dont know
do 15s griff
nice
lucky af
I gotta do my 14 ML
So is the mekkatorgue trinket actually good?
toss your badge on my desk
i cant find a guild for me lol
who
you
that's not me
wheres that handy star wars traitor gif when you need it
for m+ i still do
i'm just f arming 10's as a dps
because i can pump better
than most dps
lol
oh
I TRUSTED YOU @outer dew YOU WERE THE ONE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO DETHRONE ME
let me quickly delete that before sal kicks me the fuck out lol
you were the chosen one @outer dew
smh
you were supposed to destroy the dps, not join them
lmao
Sounds like the sand's getting everywhere in here. Seems coarse.
๐ ๐ช you ruined prequel meme hour
ahem, you know calling it a "prequel" also is admitting that it actually is a legit movie to be recognized....that's like calling Ravager a talent.
they are not as bad as that supposed avatar the last air bender movie that never got released
on the first boss of KR
and the warrior too
and they let adds get to the boss
the adds have legit less than 30k hp each
? ? ?
did they die to whirlwind-thingie
I'm in shock at them dying.
hmm yeah...only time i see dps die on that fight is if the healer forgets about them. that dot hurts
it is Tyrannical week after all
That's actually hilarious
they both did die to spit gold
sad
and of course the boomkin decided to rage quit
I love people like that tbh
i legit had like 10 deaths in a run and still +2'd it. the timers are super generous now...people leaving is just like...wat
@raven ore || you ever just yeet ||
:^(
ravager 3 bom 3 GS op u'll see
total side bar has anyone tested if bom gives mastery to arms still?
should still yeah
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gives you a free IP and mast during avatar if you got it
if only mast did anything for arms
the deepest wounds
triple tom triple Bom omega spin
BoM workin with Arms is just another reason why Arms is the only true War dps spec
my dream is still 2h Prot
ie: just prot with stomp and revenge
but revenge req 1h :^(
omg have you tested Arms with BoM? lol
I havent but my omega meme build is triple bom triple tom Fob Avatar dreadnaught
Guys 1 question is Treacherous Covenant good for protection in BOD ? Is that talent worth it
I think the consensus on TC was no
but i know it was debating whether or not you could take 81% of your health in a single shot from full and whether or not that would trigger the extra damage taken
That said a lot of prot traits increase damage AND survivability simultaneously which tends to be more attactive
Hey ! I just finished my raid and I would like to ask you something, maybe I missed a dev note but did they buff Heroic Jaina damage ?
My mate and I are getting wrecked
not to my knowledge
is lingering sporepods garbage for prot?
ya, sporepods is garbage
there are def better options
It's weird because we already did Jaina last Tuesday and the damage seems crazy now
an extremely high ilvl one has uses for str but your other trinkets would have be fairly low, the proc on it is awful
^
its either that or 370 blood/eye
also iron; as an update cause you were the first one to respond to me last night
vs 400 pod
if so then i would suggest reflecting it than reducing the slam damage
thats 30k every second compared to a 1 time slam, so ignoring literally 150k damage
just prevents the 5s dot, sitll get stunned, still get thrown, still do bestial impact
yeah
so which do i get rid of? Rezan eye 370, blood vial 370 or lingering sporepods 400
only for mythic+
not raiding
get better
id say pod
30 ilvls is alot though so its a super hesitent pod
maybe pod over vial
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i havent done heroic yet, hopefully get to him this weekend, but can you not use abilities during the 5 second throw? wowhead states you can still use abiltiies, the ones that require a facing are finnicky, but should still be able to use cd's
my experience with Grong is that you're stunned while in his hand and when you land
but if your DPS runs you far enough you can get an ability out while you're in air
I've been sneaking IPs in there
Once grabbed i havent been able to get anything out, regardless of on/off GCD, until i was in the air
might be bugged, or could have been a "stealth nerf" before live
im sure the wowhead guide was out before live came out, so its a possible change
Since according to my logs its technically he environment doing the damage?
I'll double cehck that
yeah you can see here I got IP + SR off while in the air on the first, but not the 2nd
this should be proof of DS not reducing Impact
This is the duration of that specific DS
So thats your warrior tech after 30 pulls of Grong
SR the throw
DS doesnt work on BEstial impact
it sorta makes sense that DS doesnt reduce it if they want to be like, well the ground does the damage to you, but still sucks lol
In screen shots its Spell reflect both times
B would be block but i didnt get damaged by anything blockable in those screen shots
R is how much it should be without any form of defensive
oh i c
i was digging in the warcraft logs directions and couldnt find those key tersm
ya i had to tank on champs and only really dps in raids really
so i thought i should pick up looking at logs a bit for tanking
I fucking suck at reviewing my logs
I just new what i was looking for this time because ppl said i was wrong :^(

cough
