protection

[oblique garnet]

Well yeah depending on the dungeon

ML isnt

[sick sentinel]

FH isn't also

Is

[oblique garnet]

Fh is 11 minutes

[sick sentinel]

I misread what you meant by isn't

As "isn't over 20".

[oblique garnet]

Ah

Havent been able to do fh faster than 11 mins

Probably with like 380 group could be faster

[urban walrus]

So what ilvl does m0 drop

[oblique garnet]

370

[urban walrus]

That's a yikes

[sick sentinel]

It's good for az

@oblique garnet fh is faster this well

Week

Simply because you can skip directly to the only boss that drops azerite

If you're going for full clear it's not thought

[ivory light]

how many IL is DC worth currently?

i see icyveins is sayin 45, wanna make sure its up to date

[lone arch]

How good is Deafening Crash? At what Ilvl should I look to replace it.

[silk moat]

You should keep it as long as you can

[summer kestrel]

I go with this rule of thumb

[silk moat]

It is not necessarily a “must have” but ya really close

[summer kestrel]

For M+ two tier

For raid one tier

[royal marten]

It's a very noticeable trait to have compared to the others. Definitely worth it, and it seems a few of the early bosses in the new raid have it as an available trait

[ivory light]

wow, thanks, didnt know that..... Hence the question of how big for item levels to keep it

[uneven mason]

Its good, if you can maximize its uptime benefit it can be two tiers for dungeons, for raids if you're not maximizing its use I'd take ilvl + BFI over it, otherwise 1tier.

its main benefit is just being a raw forcem ultiplier

for dungeons that is

15% Damage boost from BV + buffing TC at the same time, and then roll Avatar and BoM into the mix

its a multiplicative madness

[silk moat]

I had success replacing a 375 DC with a 390 Bloodsport + 3 middle ring leech traits

Really helped with our lack of self sustain

[uneven mason]

I mean

Not taking the damage in the first place (through other traits) is about the same EHP as adding a bit of leech

but it does look nice on logs when you "out heal" a prot paladin

[silk moat]

Oh yeah

It’s just a different approach. It’s been ok for me

Tanking world raid bosses solo np np

[sick sentinel]

I am all for the leech memes

I had 3 pieces of gear with a 390 BS and a middle right leech trait once

[uneven mason]

If only bloodsport increased the per hit value on IP as well

[sick sentinel]

it's just memes though

[uneven mason]

mhmmm

[final mist]

Bloodsport does increase the value of IP.

Both parts of it stack.

[silk moat]

It does

2x BOM 1 Bloodsport 3 leech 2 impassive visage

[uneven mason]

I mean, per hit

[silk moat]

HEEEEEEEEEALS

[uneven mason]

like say, you cast IP 41k, BS adds 4k to that, so you get a 45000 absorb, get hit for 10k - you still only shave 5k off, leaving you with 40k IP

since the 50% is off the damage you take

[final mist]

In any situation where you're doing relevant content, IP will normally be eaten up pretty quickly.

[uneven mason]

I mean it handy for tankbusters

[final mist]

Especially in higher M+ and Mythic raids.

[uneven mason]

right I was more addressing the meme "self sustain"

if it increased the per hit absorb amount we could be like champions and solo ougeared content without heals

👍

[final mist]

You don't take Bloodsport for the Leech, Leech is utter shite since DPS relative to health pools is so small. Bloodsport is good for the huge increase to each IP.

[uneven mason]

right 😄 You take Bloodsport to deal with non blockable tank killing mecahnics (Zul's bleed for example)

[silk moat]

I LIKE IT

[sick sentinel]

I would go for triple BS and leech middle traits just for the memes tbh

or like

[uneven mason]

thats why you take it

meme healing meters

[sick sentinel]

2xBS, 3BoM, and 1 dc

if you are doing 100kdps

that's a lot of health

[uneven mason]

"Doing 100k dps"

[sick sentinel]

I mean, in mplus

[balmy narwhal]

so do the items cap atm for m+ at 385?

[sick sentinel]

reaping

[balmy narwhal]

like regular mythic + chest once it is completed?>

[uneven mason]

yes

[balmy narwhal]

so it is as of next week that it goes up to 400?

rip

but i guess it makes sense since mythic will be available next week

[steady dragon]

heya nerds, with the engi goggs being BiS for us, and crafting them requires quite a bit of expulsom, do we get the expulsom back when we scrap?

[silk mortar]

Believe we dont

[sick sentinel]

you should have saved up like 60 explsum and who said that they bis for us?

if it is, I am glad because I will be crafting them anyway but I do not think that they will be

[silk mortar]

They had dc is what i remeber

[sick sentinel]

not a factor

[silk mortar]

Which pretty much every other piece has

Let me finish before you judge

😄

[sick sentinel]

I mean, even now I don't have DC

if a piece does not have BoM on it, I will probably not use it in the long run

and sorry, go ahead

[sick sentinel]

@sick sentinel they have DC/op

They're very good

But not bis

exactly

I will use them

Don't think they have a second trait ring

Like at all

But I may be wrong

they have eng ring

[uneven mason]

eng ring

[sick sentinel]

they have DC/BS and then the eng rings

I might actually pick BS on them instead of DC if I get DC somewhere else

I would prefer it if they had DC/BoM but that's a different story

still useful because of the inner trait so I might use them for my leech memes build eventually

[silk moat]

Engineering goggles r best in slot

?

Wat

[sick sentinel]

they are not

but they are good

[silk moat]

Do you need engineering to wear them, or just craft them?

[sick sentinel]

wear

[silk moat]

I’m a nub

Ty

[sick sentinel]

that goes for all of crafted items now

you need BS for BS belt and pants, you need JC for JC rings etc

[silk moat]

What is level of engineering goggs

[sick sentinel]

415

you craft 385 to get the recipe for 400 then you craft 400 to get the recipe for 415

[languid jewel]

wheres a good prot warrior trinket tier list

[sick sentinel]

icy veins

if you are not satisfied with icy veins then send screenshots here and will we will tell you what is the best out of your choises

[languid jewel]

well i know those are top 5 im just wondering when to stop using blockades without those top 5

[uneven mason]

"depends"

BLockades is still good for EHP

[sick sentinel]

you stop using blockades when you feel you are tanky enough and want more dps

or when you get a trinket that is like 385+

@languid jewel that is what we want, more specific questions

a good example would be "do I replace blockades with X trinket?" and such, things that can't be answered with a or "read the guides"

[daring marlin]

I'm being memed right now

I dunno what's going on

in reference to the bwonsamdi trinket

?????????

[sick sentinel]

that guy is probably Pepega irl

[daring marlin]

I fucking

this guy is unironically telling me I'm bad for saying it's not good lol

[open bluff]

first azerite roll of the season

[sand egret]

ew azerite globs

trash

[sick sentinel]

earthlink>azerite globules

IMO

[uneven mason]

^^^

[open bluff]

prob, but dat dc/bom on the first roll tho

[sick sentinel]

ye, that's 👌

[untold cape]

What addon shows the traits on tooltip?

[sick sentinel]

azerite tooltip

[untold cape]

Thanks @sick sentinel

[daring marlin]

I'll need to grab that lol

...just another addon this game needs lol

[sick sentinel]

tbh I got that like the second day of the expac

I just went on twitch and searched for "azerite"

[hushed cobalt]

Kings 11 on my warrior, is that a no-go? 😦

[sick sentinel]

you never know until you try

go for it

get 5 rings before you do though, IMO

[hushed cobalt]

famous last words

M+ difficulty got up'd right?

[sick sentinel]

it did

[keen spire]

basically yeah

[sick sentinel]

30% more

so basically, m0 now is the same as +5 before

[hushed cobalt]

so mini boss zul is gonna be a lust mini-fight

[sick sentinel]

you lust zul, correct

wait a sec.. does Zul spawn Bwonzombie too ?

I mean, he should

get a dk dps and get 100% after last boss by killing the enslaved mob I guess

[primal crypt]

It's on like donkey kong

[sick sentinel]

👌

[rain tapir]

for m+ aoe dmg is it worth stacking crash?`

[ocean acorn]

@primal crypt are u tanking? i thot u said u had to dps

[sick sentinel]

that's a Pog IRL right there

[primal crypt]

I'm tanking keys

I dont dps keys lol

[rain tapir]

anyone simmed crash stacking dmg?

[ocean acorn]

i vc

c

[stark sage]

no one has @rain tapir

prot sims don't exist this expac

[rain tapir]

okok so I guess im gonna craft the engeneering head tomorrow

[sick sentinel]

is anyone actually doing heroic atm?

would love confirmation if you can actually block the initial bleed tick on Grong

or if it was just a log bug

[primal crypt]

5th boss is bugged

can't grab gems lmao

[chilly brook]

Ur bugged

xD

[primal crypt]

ur a bug

[chilly brook]

You’re not wrong

[shut summit]

looks like there isnt any log weirdness from kills i see on logs @sick sentinel

cant be blocked / not showing up

[sick sentinel]

cool, thanks

can you parry the smash?

[wanton blaze]

I know it's not a prot specific question but have the emissary rewards on not turned in caches been updated on the NA realms? The patch notes are unclear "rewards may reroll"

just wondering if I should just turn in them now before the EU reset

[shut summit]

changed to 385 azerite

with 5 rings

[open bluff]

only rerolling it did was update azerite caches, any non-azerite emissary is still non-azerite

[wanton blaze]

Cool, ty. Worth keeping them then.

[sand egret]

anyone know if today's NA emissarry is a cache 😃

[sick sentinel]

lol

https://clips.twitch.tv/AbstemiousPunchyWebPartyTime

[languid sigil]

Hey, does anyone know f the Burnout Debuff deals damage to the raid once it runs out after you reflect the Fireball during the Jadefire encounter?

[hushed cobalt]

@sand egret it is not a cache

[zinc mauve]

@sick sentinel i justify my retarded decisions by reminding people that i'm constantly taking blows to the head

[open bluff]

get a taller shield

problem solved

[uneven mason]

Or play a shorter race

[hollow kite]

do we want to drop a 390 piece for a 375 with the extra ring?

[lavish oracle]

How's Blightborne Infusion compared to Callous Reprisal?

They're both bad but which is less bad

[modest wedge]

Should not matter in a week or 2 everything will have extra rings

[lavish oracle]

It isn't a week or two from now

so it still matters

[summer kestrel]

Blightborne infusion its near the best "stat azerite" trait

So yeah

[lavish oracle]

Yeah, it seems good for a generic

not sure if its worth taking over Callous Reprisal

the worst of our class specific traits

[daring marlin]

AY

Did they stealth nerf treacherous covenent?

Same piece

o_O

[sick sentinel]

when ur trying to dump rage but revenge is always free

[daring marlin]

prot life baby

[warm plinth]

@daring marlin Wonder if they made it less for tanks? Is it still 167 in dps spec?

[daring marlin]

That guy is a WW monk though

this goofy shit

[warm plinth]

I'm just saying because it's exactly 50%, which is the typical number that shit gets nerfed by for tanks haha

[daring marlin]

I wonder if it's half effectiveness outside of raid

that...would be lame

[warm plinth]

Yeah, it would :/

[civic holly]

hi guys 😄 i just got the new idamond laced refracting prism from BOD

any insight on what kindve value it has?

[primal crypt]

Rings are +10 right?

or was it 15

I always get this one confused

[warm plinth]

Rings?

[primal crypt]

ring sockets

[warm plinth]

Oh

[sick sentinel]

@civic holly it's good

like, the best trinket survivability wise kind of good

[warm plinth]

10 sounds right to me.

[sand egret]

I'd say closer to 12.4 myself.

[warm plinth]

Yeah but you can't get a 12.4 ilevel upgrade :p

[primal crypt]

12.4...

[signal plover]

It's actually 12.34

[primal crypt]

I'm done with you guys

[signal plover]

Fine Yamo

[sand egret]

i'm just about the facts

[warm plinth]

It's 10 for your purposes Yamo XD

[signal plover]

I'll go to 3 decimals

12.345

[civic holly]

12.3457

[uneven mason]

3.1415927538?

[civic holly]

anyone have a good trinket information source?

[sand egret]

wait for it...

[uneven mason]

[sand egret]

there it is

@civic holly guides have generic trinket advice, specific details you're better off just asking the "X or Y" question here

[sick sentinel]

if neither the pins or the #268491842637660160 answer your questions and you have more specific questions, then ask here

[civic holly]

i got hte diamond laced refracting prism gives an absorb shield every 8.5 seconds

the enhance shammy in my group wants it

[sand egret]

fuck that dude

take that shit

[sick sentinel]

the enchance is a retard

[sand egret]

it's probably the best defensive trinket in BoD tbh

dude prob wants it for pvp

[sick sentinel]

if you check the Icy-Veins guide you will see that this trinket is literally best in slot for protection warrior survivability

[sand egret]

but this does fulfill the long-lasting stereotype that Mail wearing classes just take all the loot 😆

[civic holly]

thanks guys

[silk moat]

The prism?

[hollow thorn]

Does anyone have the list of spells u can spell reflect or whatever it is?

[sand egret]

should be a list in the guides

[sick sentinel]

deattu... pls

[sand egret]

but maybe we pull your 👢 🍵 👏 card for not checking first.... 👀

[sick sentinel]

there is both the marok weak aura AND the spreadsheet by sense is updated for BoD

[sand egret]

speaking of which, that WA is dope

I dont even use addons and i'm going to snag that one

[sick sentinel]

due to stuDYING I haven't had the chance to test it yet

[sand egret]

don't worry, life gets way more depressing after the studying 😃

[daring marlin]

yo is bursting like broken or what?

[eager phoenix]

14% per stack, according to Jb https://twitter.com/watch_jdotb/status/1087809736995688451

jb (@watch_jdotb)

bursting is currently doing 14% hp per stack (3.5% per second over 4 seconds)

am told intended

for reference, bfa started as 5% per stack (2.5% per 2 seconds over 4 seconds)

legion was 10% per stack

so this is 3x what it was at bfa launch and 1.5x what it was in legion

Twitter

[daring marlin]

cancer

[uneven mason]

sounds fantastic

[hushed cobalt]

I don't get the part in icy veins about not casting shield slam as often. Won't you cast it on cooldown for the most part?

[uneven mason]

?

[hushed cobalt]

In reference to bfi versus iron fortress

[uneven mason]

Because in M+ you'll be focusing on AE damage and generating more rage

SS is very strong ST damage and a large source of rage ST, but when you're tanking 5+ targets its less crucual, you'll be using TC and Revenge on far more GCDs

[hushed cobalt]

Do you get rage per hit per target?

[uneven mason]

IF is stronger in M+ because 1 its damage is passive and 2 its not reliant on casting any particular ability

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[uneven mason]

you get rage by being hit by auto attacks

[warm plinth]

I think there's an ICD on the gain though, iirc? Might be mistaken.

[hushed cobalt]

I thought so also

[warm plinth]

Yeah according to the BfA what's new article on Skyhold, it's approximately 1 second ICD on rage from auto attacks taken

[uneven mason]

yeah its 1s

originally there was no ICD

and we had infinite rage for big pulls

[warm plinth]

Yeah I was gonna say if there wasn't one, it'd be an insane amount of rage in M+ packs

[uneven mason]

which, basically meant you capped rage and could do nothing with it

because IP was on the GCD

and Revenge is always free with that many mobs

[warm plinth]

It's still really strong obviously, but that would've been like T21+T20 levels of rage, if not more XD

[uneven mason]

420/221 F

[hushed cobalt]

Thought I was missing something, that clears up that

[uneven mason]

Never forget 4 20, 2 21

"The Ocean of Rage"

45s CD on shield wall

18s CD on Demo shout

[hushed cobalt]

Now I gotta figure out how much mastery I need with 3 bom's to crit block cap

[uneven mason]

unobtainable outside of Uldir

even then

with RA 2x BoM and 385 vial I was at 78%

[hushed cobalt]

I recall someone saying 3 385 pieces got 85%, or perhaps that was pre BoM nerf

[warm plinth]

Hey you can get under 18 sec CD on demo with the PvP talent :p

[uneven mason]

infinite rage in PVP

too bad they got TC damage nerfed

I can't crit folks in PVP for 40k

[sand egret]

3x 415 pieces was 84% on the ptr

not 385

[uneven mason]

^^

[sand egret]

(at least, as observed on Lepan's stream during testing)

[uneven mason]

so basically full mythic raid gear with a titan forged vial

avatar turns into a real boy

erm, defensive CD

NELTHARION'S REBORN

[silk mortar]

A moving neltharion

Ya mean

Cant wait to use that in m+ 🤤

[uneven mason]

6 Million Dollar Cooldown

"WE CAN REBUILD IT, WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY"

[lavish oracle]

How does reflecting the buster cannon work on mekkatorque do you just step infront of it and it reflects the DoT and debuff?

[uneven mason]

That's a question

glad we finally got a trait that turns our offensive CD into a defensive CD, know what would've been amazing though

if instead of casting IP

it casts a free Thunderclap, to get things rolling

[thorn mango]

never knew a raid boss that can give me a headache,then i met champion of light........why the fuck they made a mechanic where u cant kill her adds at the start i will never understand

[uneven mason]

you can

the boss just gets mad

[sand egret]

....cuz they don't want you to kill the adds at start?

[uneven mason]

dealing with the adds is literally the fight

[sand egret]

i mean that IS the point of an "add mangement" fight

[uneven mason]

Zul would be stupid easy if you didn't have to manage his adds

[sand egret]

that's like having a Patchwerk fight that you can just do something to prevent auto attacks

[uneven mason]

thankfully champions of the light should be stupidly easy

mind you, they're already making "BDK" sounds at me

[sand egret]

does that sound just involve them yelling "BONESTORMMMMM"

cuz that's how I imagine it

then again, I kinda see BDKs as Groot but with "Bonestorm"

[thorn mango]

do u think its possible to get away with just killing the crusader add? would be much easier to deal with the disciples without the concencration bullfuckery at their feet

[warm plinth]

Like the ICC pet 😂

[sand egret]

I haven't really looked at the fights in detail, but check if there's an enforcement mechanic.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is one, but I also wouldn't be surprised if you can cheese it/outgear it on N/H. Skorp was similiar in context

[uneven mason]

Fatboss was making sounds during beta testing that yeah, more or less you can probably just bully the fuck out of that boss

and ignore the stacking debuff

[dark lark]

For those who don't raid, is anybody going to be spamming m0s for 370 double ring gear to replace their 385s?

[uneven mason]

I'd suggest spamming M0s to get 370s to disenchant to buy 385s 👏

[sand egret]

☝ chances are there are gonna be a lot of dps wanting to do this and in need of a tank...I'll probably just smash some M0s and poach the group finder

[uneven mason]

So who else

is pissed off that agi users literally get 2 sets

from the raid

while we get 1

actually we don't even get one of the "special" effect items

😡

[dark lark]

Wouldn't it be better to save for the 415

Rather than the 385

[sand egret]

not mad in the slightest, literally couldn't care about the raid 😃

[balmy narwhal]

did they take block rating off?

aw

i dont see them on my shields anymoer

oops

nvm i am an idiot

[uneven mason]

Obviously, you play prot.

only for 40IQ folks

Comes from getting beat in the head

taking Thrash's to the teeth

Unimportant now

but I learned that if there is no one else in melee

Fetid thrash's his main tank

told my raid that next time we go in I'll just tank him at the door and no one needs to come within melee range of me or him

take both white hits and Thrash

[sick sentinel]

LOL

[uneven mason]

#protection

[daring marlin]

lotta dead people

[sick sentinel]

"We can one-tank this, as long as I have a dedicated healer and every melee moves out every 3rd attack

[uneven mason]

What is melee?

[sick sentinel]

LOL

[uneven mason]

You melee on Fetid?

in 2019?

[dark lark]

🤔

[sick sentinel]

I have 9% parse on fetid as fury

We had 7 melee on that kill

[uneven mason]

List of fights that get harder when melee goes above 0 in Uldir - "Fetid, Vectis, Mythrax(not anymore I guess)

[sick sentinel]

And I got my fetid weap for prot for bonus rolling there as well as cloak

[uneven mason]

I got gloves

[sick sentinel]

So I sat out after that

[uneven mason]

after looting 395 gloves

👍

[sick sentinel]

I have literally 1 fetid kill

[uneven mason]

me too!

on mythic

we killed him last raid day before patch

after taking a month off of progression

<--- filthy casual

[sand egret]

hiss

[uneven mason]

the reasoning was is that the whips will be out for this raid

so we best get our resting done

no more casual

[sand egret]

lol. I'll take, Things I Don't Miss for 300, Trebek 😃

[marble wave]

looted meqqatorque 95 trinket . stacked haste no so bad for prots? 😉

[sick sentinel]

It's good

[tropic star]

triple BOM living the dream

[daring marlin]

yo real talk

fuck this guy

I hate him

The shield has gems in it too

lol

[thorn mango]

after 2 and a half hours and 3 groups,fuck champion of light....seriously lol

[silk moat]

@tropic star live it, love it.

[tropic star]

1600 mastery on avatar

60% crit block

40% bonus attack power

[sand egret]

60%, is that the delta or is that your total with it up?

gotta be the delta....

[sick sentinel]

So how's everyone's experience with BoD so far? Here's mine as a tank

[sand egret]

is this wat the youths call a "spicy meme"?

[sick sentinel]

A may-may

[sand egret]

👍

[sick sentinel]

Can't wait for more of it to flood the market

[keen spire]

Jaina is purty

PURTY CRAZY AMIRITE BOIZ 🖐

[daring marlin]

I might've missed it

Is there any negative effect of bwonsamdi's bargain?

the debuff in M+ lol

[neon tangle]

@daring marlin whatcha mean?

oh, afaik no

supposed to just be there to make depleted keys less shitty

[daring marlin]

I like reaping

[neon tangle]

Reaping is fab

[tawny sphinx]

@shut summit Where you at bro? Tired of seeing all previous bdk’s rerolling prot warriors but they can’t really play it properly. You’re one of the best, and we need to see more of you. I hope that you’re going to push some high keys this new season. Showing people how to play prot warri like a God.
Not previously bdk’s who’s kiting like they are still playing bdk.

[sand egret]

O_O

[neon tangle]

Did he stop playing at the end of s1?

he dropped to like #25 for prot warriors

[sand egret]

hope that pic doesn't surface....I can't relive that pain

[tawny sphinx]

He haven’t really played for a long time.

[shut summit]

ye my group wasn't really interested in playing last bit of the season, will be doing more with reaping

[drowsy cipher]

Ditch them for letting u fall below all the scrub warriors :3

[thorn mango]

is 2 DC good to have? or do i just want 1? i just got shoulders off grong and helm from masters.....

[neon tangle]

2nd DC will only increase your TC damage

[thorn mango]

so it really isnt worth it?

[neon tangle]

what's your other choice?

[thorn mango]

bastion for the helm,or iron fortress for the shoulders

[neon tangle]

both are good, probably IF for raids, BoM for m+ / damage

[thorn mango]

so pretty much say since i took helm for DC, IF would be my go too for the shoulders?

[neon tangle]

yeah, I mean, assuming you care more about the defensive trait

BoM is p good for damage

[thorn mango]

meh i'll dick around later,its crazy how easy grong is compared to champion lol,i one shot that bitch 😄 his combo is aids though lol,if u get a double its like u instantly die,i swear i had mitigation up on the swap and i still got rocked lol

[neon tangle]

h or normal?

[thorn mango]

normal

[oblique garnet]

Is there anyone who is streaming bod atm?

[shut summit]

will be in like 1.5hr

[oblique garnet]

Nice you doing hc or nm?

Or both

[shut summit]

hc 1st

[hushed cobalt]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=165456/wardenguards-chestplate&bonus=5124:1457&azerite-powers=1

stomping paid off

[oblique garnet]

Oh exorsus will also stream progression

[sick sentinel]

Pog

[ancient ore]

do i need intmidting presence or or resounding protection

[sick sentinel]

I would go with RP

RP

More value then presence

[vocal elm]

I just rerolled to Prot Warrior for my guild so my neck level is still a little low. How much value would you put on the azerite traits? Should I be doing 370s with 3 traits or if I get some from Heroic use the 415s with one trait

[teal hamlet]

sry for bad edit, too lazy to use PS

[inland mesa]

heroic is 400

[oblique garnet]

Ilvl>all on the new azerite pieces

[teal hamlet]

deafening crash is still mandatory right?

thats the only one i valued above ilvl so far...

[neon tangle]

I mean a ton of them have it

If anything it would be hard to avoid DC

[vocal elm]

Does it lose a lot of value though after the first trait or is the bonus TC damage still stronger than the rest?

[teal hamlet]

damage stacks, but its not the reason why you take it

[vocal elm]

I know that. Thats why im asking if it loses a lot of value after the first one

[teal hamlet]

you can say yes... you are not gaining additional seconds... its the same with bastion of might, although mastery increase is better than dmg on tc... 😄

[modern brook]

did marok remove sens's blockable spreadsheet?

[neon tangle]

It loses a lot of value, it’s still a decent trait for AoE damage

[modern brook]

from pins?

[gaunt dawn]

its in #268491842637660160

[neon tangle]

I would take BoM and friends over it

[oblique garnet]

Are you fucking kidding me my broadband provider is doing mainentance today and it may cause some internet issues

[untold cape]

Anyone know if you can Spell Reflect the new Reaping Affix mob's debuff?

[oblique garnet]

Im like 90% sure you cant sr the debuff but it doesnt matter since its dispellable

[untold cape]

Yeah, true.

[gaunt dawn]

Hello Everyone.

Tank Notes for Battle of Dazar'alor are now live :)

https://www.tanknotes.com

If you have any feedback/suggestions, please join the discord (link is in the top banner of the website)

[warm plinth]

❤

[cinder nova]

Ancient's Bulwark worth a damn?

[thorn mango]

fun fact,on normal for ocupence you can get by without the gem lol,just killed him and forgot to grab my gem towards the end,wasnt taking TOO much damage

[halcyon siren]

how are prot warriors right now, been on a bit of a break from game

[oblique garnet]

Very nice

[halcyon siren]

ah

yeah I was maining a bear tank in the last raid lol

[oblique garnet]

oh yikes

in uldir right?

[halcyon siren]

tell me bout it lol

yep

[oblique garnet]

Warrior would have been alot better 😄

[halcyon siren]

couldn't think of teh name of the raid lol

[oblique garnet]

@primal crypt https://www.kapwing.com/videos/5c47d790922d1200130e9373

[primal crypt]

YUPPPPPP

[oblique garnet]

You done some reaping fun yet?

[primal crypt]

112k dps

[oblique garnet]

niceU

Did you get lucky with the m0 world tour?

[primal crypt]

I didn't get to do it

didn't have the time before raid

[oblique garnet]

ah

rastakhan looks spicy

[primal crypt]

all my resources are going towards fury too

so that's another thing

and I'm on Rastaboi right now

I'm ded XD

[oblique garnet]

hc?

[primal crypt]

yup

[oblique garnet]

watching lala get absolutely smacked by it rn 😄

[primal crypt]

kek

raid is over for the night

5/9 first night

not bad

we have a split raid this weekend

for second runs

[oblique garnet]

we gonna do nm first to test out the trials and get the 385 azerite pieces with 2 traits etc

[astral crystal]

YOOOO prot so good on opulence

can keep diamond up for 10 years

[oblique garnet]

?

[astral crystal]

the treasure boss

from the new raid

[oblique garnet]

havent checked the actual tactics for it no clue what you mean by diamond

[ruby berry]

Diamond of the Unshakeable Protector

This absorbs 50% of all incoming damage up to a maximum of 300% of the player's maximum health. When this absorption is broken the player will be afflicted with Depleted Diamond for 30 seconds.
Once the Depleted Diamond debuff has expired, the Diamond of the Unshakeable Protector buff will reactivate.
This buff is useful when tanking the boss, as the tanks can take turns tanking the boss whilst they have their Diamond of the Unshakeable Protector buff up, taunting off each other when the Depleted Diamond debuff ends.

@oblique garnet

[oblique garnet]

i see

[steel mauve]

its used to counter his tank mechanic in heroic

[lucid kelp]

stup;id technical question on Opulence wit hthe Diamond buff. Does the Damage reduction from Diamond apply before Ignore Pain? Or Ignore pain before Diamond?

[warm plinth]

Ignore Pain works before Diamond from what the tanknotes said, if I read it right.

@lucid kelp

I'm assuming that IP counts when it says "damage reductions" but it might not I guess.

Since it's not technically a damage reduction

[finite gull]

Doing mythic world tour and i got a 390 titanforge on a rezans. Replaced my 375 haha 😂

[warm plinth]

Nice

Congrats

[lucid kelp]

ok cool

[oblique garnet]

oh nice mekkatorgue looks epic

[sick sentinel]

Ok so can someone explain if bursting is 14 or 7%

Because it hasn't been 10% for awhile now

And it was changed during that mass add change early 8.1

[thorn mango]

@sick sentinel from what i just heard from watching finalboss,they removed the "legion bursting nerf" so take that how u will

[sick sentinel]

So I'm guessing that it's back to 10%?

What pisses me off is that they said they would fix bursting tooltip to reflect the change from 10 to 5% so now this shits is annoying

Like look at this shit

The 10% was legion, the 5% was bfa, this shits annoying

[trim bay]

Hey guys. I hope this isnt a stupid question but first boss how did you go about dropping the Sacred blade stack? Wait till 4-5 stacks and a long cast and then use spell reflect and hope it is timed good to drop? or leap after spell reflect? to ensure it drops off?

we did it fine was just a bit sloppy

[oak edge]

Pretty sure you just gotta kite for a couple of sec after his longer cast. When I raid tonight I plan to call for priest grip out. Then leap back when the boss gets closer.. Hopefully that will work.

[dusk locust]

we just 3 tanked it

[signal plover]

wasn't rly all taht necessary

[dusk locust]

not necessary to 3 tank really but meh

[signal plover]

nah i mean even resetting the stack

it dropped on it's own during the phase changes

[dusk locust]

hm

[signal plover]

and leap works izzi

got spicy under 30% tho

wave of light cast seems pretty solid to do it tho if you need to in a pinch

[oblique garnet]

Can you drop it with bop?

[signal plover]

with spellwarding yes

[oak edge]

Sacred blade is a 10s debuff yeah?

[signal plover]

i actually did call for a spell ward now that i think about it

[dusk locust]

how are you guys swapping for jadefire masters? we were treating the bosses as separate entities, taunting fire mage at ~5 stacks and taunting monk after she does her tank thing

rather than a true swap

[signal plover]

we just swapped after monk toss

[dusk locust]

don't fire stacks get stupid high then

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[signal plover]

was liek a 60k pop on raid

the issue is the monk debuff timer

we would play around that

[dusk locust]

monkey boss seemed pretty straightforward

[signal plover]

i like what you're saying about swapping em separately

btw triple smash is a possible combo, so 1st tank has to be ready to taunt back for the 3rd one

[open bluff]

yeah i just swapped after the toss

for jadefire

[dusk locust]

bigwigs was super iffy on most bosses for me

[astral crystal]

we had a pull where grong just did triple bite

every combo

was pretty goofy

[dusk locust]

opulence taunting the way we wanted wasn't possible b/c we didn't have timers for opulence's tank mechanic

[astral crystal]

there's no real tank mechanic

[signal plover]

dude block tanks are so strong on opulence

[astral crystal]

we just held it til the diamond broke

swapped when diamond was up

[signal plover]

coin sweep is

we just mitigate the hell outta it

[final mist]

I held it the entire time

It's parryable xd

[signal plover]

lol

[astral crystal]

yeah i think prot warr can probably hold it for the entire duration

pretty insane with last stand/shield wall/shield block

[signal plover]

my pally cotank said she just got bored and taunted

i was like aight

@dusk locust big wigs updated mid raid and got a little better but they're usually way slower on launch day than DBM. i think maybe because they're euro devs?

[dusk locust]

ah

[thorn mango]

@final mist if u run ocuplence on normal u dont even need a gem :D,took a few tries just to get thru phase 1 safe lol,but on my kill i forgot my gem,fun fact is i wasnt taking all that much damage,so i pretty much yoloed the swap with the gemmed tank 😄 lol

[oak edge]

Yeah. Big wigs is done by justwait in method I'm pretty sure

[astral crystal]

what kill order did you guys run on conclave?

[signal plover]

i fuckin mistimed my avatar for opulence adds feels bad

[astral crystal]

you're basically immune to pa'ku so we killed him 3rd

[uneven mason]

++++

[astral crystal]

nice, grats

[signal plover]

fuk u mac

but nice

[uneven mason]

after going all of mythic Uldir with zero shield drops, feels good

[signal plover]

fair

we didn't get HC opulence tonight

thursday

hopefully get through blockade

[uneven mason]

I got stuck on Jadefire

because

monk mini game is hard for people?

😡

[astral crystal]

monk mini game is horribly designed tbh

[uneven mason]

its fine

big dick DPS buff

[astral crystal]

it's difficult to see the order unless your UI is hidden

[signal plover]

there's actually a lot of overlapping damage going on there too

[uneven mason]

cleave TC

with Crashing

[astral crystal]

we killed it fine but it's just stupid that the visual marker isn't better

[uneven mason]

I will give it that

if I wasn't a professional DDR player

I'd have sucked at it too

[true plover]

Is the diamond laced trinket any good?

[oblique garnet]

2 more hours 8)(8

First boss shield?

[oak edge]

Anyone know if the block / reflect sheet is still current in the FAQ after going live?

[muted mesa]

having trouble understanding how to deal with the swap on the first boss: I have boss, BDK has adds to start. Want to swap at 5-6 stacks, but not sure how I can pull all of the adds off the BDK so they don't get buffed. Should we be aiming to reset stacks just before P2 instead?

I'm pretty new to tanking, sorry if I'm being dense.

[open bluff]

prot has insane aoe, you can probably just pull off through sheer dps with avatar

my group just had one tank sit on the boss all fight and kite like a little bitch when stacks started getting too high

[warm plinth]

Yeah...seems like it'd be a lot easier to just kite/wait for casts+kite to drop stacks instead of trying to tank swap

[open bluff]

(granted boss tank was brm so it was stupid easy to do it that way, but if you're tank swapping the answer would have to be dps pulling or grab priority adds one at a time as your taunt cd expires)

[warm plinth]

If you absolutely feel the need to swap, you could taunt one, wait for CD, taunt 2nd, leap, taunt 3rd (since leap resets taunt)

[muted mesa]

Thanks guys, I appreciate it. Mangaged to kill it by kiting!

[open bluff]

🍻

[neon tangle]

oooooo I got coinage stampers

I love the jump effect

it persists even through transmog

[oblique garnet]

What effect? o.O

[neon tangle]

When you jump and land coins will fly out of the ground

[oblique garnet]

oh its a hidden effect O:

that seems epic

tbf thats not gonna help my habit of randomly jumping when im not supposed to

[neon tangle]

oh no it isn't

FH is hell

basically a war crime

[oblique garnet]

i even have the weakaura that says dont jump enlarged

and still

everytime

without fail i jump atleast once

[neon tangle]

honestly

I was permastunned on my first run

thinking that it was bullshit

[oblique garnet]

i just read the debuff and was like Huh this is gonna be painful forever

Should the emissary rewards be upped yet or nah?

[shut summit]

mine changed from 370 azerite cache to 385

idk about other emissary rewards

[oblique garnet]

ah might be the azerite rewards only then

the supplies stayed 370

[open bluff]

other emissary stuff didn't change

just azerite iirc

[graceful cobalt]

i have eye of Rezan 380 the tol dir trinket on 365 ( strange and versa) the book 370 stranke/Mastery wich is best combo

[neon tangle]

ooooo

@oblique garnet it also works on your mount

so it looks like you're shitting gold

[full spruce]

Is there a WA to track Oculence laser that follows people on the right side?

[warm plinth]

@oblique garnet @shut summit @open bluff FYI, according to Blizz, all emissary rewards should go up to 385; at least, that's how this reads to me.

If you're not seeing it go up yet, it's probably their brilliant historic ilevel tracking bullshit screwing you over.

[full spruce]

My druid at 377 got a 370 from zulda chest

[warm plinth]

Yeah, but unfortunately that means nothing with their broken system. GF and I at the exact same item level, I got a 370 from an assault (a couple weeks ago), and she only got a 355. There's something messed up in the algorithm they use for it.

[round vortex]

I got a 385 from my emissary 😁

[ionic fern]

Oh, my Warrior is 383 and i still only get 330 ilvl items from WQ's.

😂

[cinder nova]

New trinket is yucky good

[delicate karma]

How good is Jes' Howler for Prot ?

[marble cipher]

@cinder nova which new trinket?

[summer kestrel]

Very good @delicate karma

[delicate karma]

@summer kestrel nice, got mine at 400 from weekly mythic chest 😄

[summer kestrel]

👌 lucky

[sharp lotus]

whats the vers value at that ilvl?

[delicate karma]

1243 split and 155 for each ally

[sharp lotus]

So thats only about 2% personal damage reduction right?

[cinder nova]

@marble cipher The one off Opulence

Got a 400 one

[marble cipher]

Nice, yeah, I want one of those 😉

[nocturne lichen]

Hey guys, is it better to have 370 or 385 ilvl on the same BiS azerite item ?

[ionic fern]

I'm confused about that quesiton.
This is how i understood it "I have BiS azerite item and i'm wondering if i should use a 370 or a 385 version of it".

[nocturne lichen]

Yes, i've got boralus shoulder with Deafening Crash 385 ilvl. I've just loot 370 same shoulders with Deafening Crash and Brace for Impact so... I'm a bit confused. As azerite trait it's better but as stats it's worst

[grand trellis]

415 Lingering Sporepods, feels bad

[modest wedge]

I dont understand these questions "Do I take 370 with extra ring or 385 with less rings". Of course you take more rings. You only lose main stat and a bit of stamina and you gain 3 more passives

[warm plinth]

I don't feel like it's a bad question honestly. The only trait you typically lose ilevel for (i.e. main stat) is the first trait of Deafening Crash, but now you drop ilevel for an additional trait. It's confusing to some people.

[oblique garnet]

omegaLUL limit actually switched to alliance

[sinful cairn]

Honestly, as the equivalent value of each traits in terms of ilvl have not been defined for prot warrior, i would say that it's a solid question

[oblique garnet]

you dont even lose stamina because the azerite pieces you gain from s2 have 20% more stamina

[crisp hearth]

Question for people on live rn

Does mm+ reward 425+ ?

Or is it capped

To 385?

[oblique garnet]

m+ is capped to 385 baseline

can titanforge to 425

[crisp hearth]

OK

Thanks sir!

[sinful cairn]

Didn't notice this stamina increase, no doubt then

[autumn cosmos]

which m0 pieces are people going after atm?

[oblique garnet]

UR helm Temple Chest and ML shoulders

would be best

i didnt get lucky with those

[full spruce]

Wearing a 370 M0 chest over 400 heroic pieces?

[autumn cosmos]

alright, cheers

[full spruce]

or just your 385

[marble cipher]

400 HC pieces will also have the extra rings

this talk is only about your "current" 385 items (no extra rings) versus "new" 370 items (extra rings)

[little hawk]

Worth dropping 20ilvl for 5th trait?

[marble cipher]

The ilvl drop will mainly be a strength drop, as the new azerite has 20% more Stam.

But, I don't know if it's worth or not 🤷

[junior igloo]

Azerite powers themselves also scale with item level

[marble cipher]

True

[zealous crest]

is Grong trinket any good?

my goal is max dps and orange logs

[junior igloo]

Yes, it should be good for dps.
Ideal usage is outside of Avatar, but on Booming Voice debuffed targets - so during 2nd, 5th, 9th, etc. Demo Shout.

[little hawk]

so is it worth dropping ilvl for 5th azerite ring?

[silk mortar]

Y

[little hawk]

even 20?

[silk mortar]

Dont think 20 exist

15 should be

[little hawk]

I got 390 shoulders, got 370 from a dungeon just now

[marble cipher]

it would be 15 ilvl drop yes, and overall it's not even gonna be that much

[silk mortar]

Oh yeah those get to 375

Its worth

15 ilvl for extra trait is good

[marble cipher]

double faction transfer for 2x ilvl 400 items is worth it too 🤣

offtopic, soz

[silk mortar]

Part of blizzard plan

They knew this would happend ;D

Happy alliance has the upper edge for once so they dont have to complain

[marble cipher]

As far as I can "stalk" on wowprogress, they're already horde again, hence the "double" faction tranfer in my comment 😉

[little hawk]

so no 72h lock anymore?

[marble cipher]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Can't say for sure though, as armory isn't updating, but wowprogress shows them all "joining LIMIT" (horde) again today

Or wowprogress is just going crazy with the "leaves" and the "joins", ah well, back to the topic of #protection 👌

[ionic fern]

Idk, seems like WoWprogress is going full derp

😂

[little hawk]

oh wait, they doing the good ol' "REFUND" trick 🤔

[marble cipher]

Question in terms of raid traits.
Should I focus more defensively (as in , stacking a couple of BfI's and IF's)?
Or go for 3x BoM + 1 DC, and use whatever traits are left on those items?

We will be heading into HC first, and will run M once it releases next week, if that matters

[sharp lotus]

Hey, I am having issues with mob positioning. Mobs/Bosses will frequently move past me when I try to get them in position. This results in pulls running behind me, and face the opposite direction that I want. I had never had this issue in legion. Is this something on my end?

[prisma night]

Whats the deal with that ring in dazar alor that is a set ring but the sword in the set is agi?

[dark lark]

Just want to put it out there that reaping is SO fun

[prisma night]

The ring is on our loot table as prot but we cant even get the set bonus

[dark lark]

@sharp lotus does it happen only when you charge the mob/boss

[sharp lotus]

No

[dark lark]

I know what you're talking about, and I can pretty reliably make crowd pummeler fuck up his positioning on oull

[sharp lotus]

Simply strafing within melee range will often result in the add moving irradicably. repositioning twice sometimes while I stand still

[dark lark]

I just deal with it unfortunately and pivot him around

Ah that

That's been a pathing issue since vanilla

Try strafing in wider circles

Sometimes if you strafe too close, the mob will register as you walking through it

[sharp lotus]

okay I will, thank you

[dark lark]

And will spaz out in order to "face you"

Does that make sense?

[prisma night]

Yeah its all about hit boxes

[sharp lotus]

Yes, especially since I tried to resolve by making my strafes tighter

[prisma night]

Some are clunky af

[dark lark]

Small humanoid mobs do that the most

[orchid sand]

@sharp lotus Earlier I was tankng first boss in new raid and boss kept slowly almost imperceptivly moving closer to me till it was in my hitbox

[dark lark]

Like the captains in waycresr

And then they do their cleave lol

[orchid sand]

so id strafe a little bithere and there to try and reposition

[sharp lotus]

The SoB cannon add on the 2nd boss was tilting me so much

[orchid sand]

aAnd then boss would turn 180 degrees!

facing wrong way

[sharp lotus]

Yeah, the ai feels overly proactive, I assume this is to combat kiting

[round glade]

Is it worth alot to go down in ilvl to gain the second trait ring? going from mythic uldir gear down to 370 sounds boring 😛

doing regular mythics blergh

[lucid bough]

anyone has WA for the new raid?

[unborn bloom]

https://wago.io/bfaraid2

Thats the new raid wa

[vocal nimbus]

@gaunt dawn site is

[gaunt dawn]

hi

site is constantly being updated 😃

done 4 rounds of updates today and its not even 2pm

[grand trellis]

How are you guys dealing with reaping? It seems like the normal melee adds put me into dangerous debuff levels before I even have aggro on everything

[thorn mango]

it pays to be an alliance char at times, did the first 6 BOD bosses on normal never seemed to see champions shield drop. did overwhelming odds pvp,get shield 😃 cant say im not content though lol. took about 45mins to nail it since i decdied to try to kill horde solo

[keen jacinth]

is 20 ilvl better than 5th trait?

[oblique garnet]

Reaping is pretty easy to deal with i dont feel like they do any damage

[gusty forum]

that is the design intention of reaping

you can pull other stuff with it if it's planned

if they get you by surprise it can go pretty bad

like on a ninja pull or one that needs a lot of dispels

[round vortex]

POG. BFI and DC.

[oblique garnet]

you mean

[dusk locust]

feels like darn near everything has DC on it

[oblique garnet]

PoG BoM and DC

[uneven mason]

"We heard you boys like DC, so we put DC on your DC"

3x BoM/DC

[primal crypt]

BOM DC POG

HE SAID BFI DC LMAOOOOOO

POG

[sand egret]

that azerite catchup shit needs to kick in to gear

[oblique garnet]

Did couple of 10s

They are pretty easily farmable

[sand egret]

10s are supposed to be ~13s in difficulty right?

[dusk locust]

doing a 10 is still the goal right

[sand egret]

from last season.

[oblique garnet]

Idk this week makes it feel like 15 because of the bursting

[sand egret]

I believe so Kauda, in terms of loot

[dusk locust]

end of dungeon caps at +6 but weekly still caps at 10 i believe?

[oblique garnet]

Ye 10 gives you 410 weekly

[sand egret]

this week was the transition week, but doing a 10 should net you a 410 this tues/wed

[oblique garnet]

^

And next week baseline for 10 will be 400

[sand egret]

apparently Limit all faction changed to Alliance eh? Really hope they showcase that swag dorf racial powaaaah

[oblique garnet]

They did

God knows why

[sand egret]

they did it for the 400 ilvl quest

and the 30% wm bonus

[oblique garnet]

Yeah just a joke

Like

[sand egret]

alliance has a kill 25 horde one

[oblique garnet]

Doubt that will get them wg

Wf

[sand egret]

it better spending 72 million gold for it

[dusk locust]

the way we switch b/t horde and alliance has interesting implications for racials too

[oblique garnet]

But yeah farming 10s compared to 6s might be slower but its 100% more fun

[uneven mason]

10 getting used to that new mechanic +++

I won't be doing m+ until the weekend RIP School and raiding

[oblique garnet]

Yeah it helps you get used to it aswell

The way you want to do them as prot warrior is have your team and yourself try to los behind some ledge so you can get aggro on the adds

[uneven mason]

10s are about equal to a 15 from last week

also keep in mind bursting is back to its Legion level of bullshit

thankfully, hte reaping adds don't cause bursting

[oblique garnet]

I wonder if its possible to make wa if youre standing in the shadow smash

its nearly invisible with quaking

[sand egret]

it's a frontal cone right?

what's the arc on it?

[old zephyr]

10s are about as hard as 15s, but in a few days we'll have much better gear as well

[sand egret]

that's exciting, i'm just excited to push up again

[oblique garnet]

You need like 400+ ilvl to properly push this week

Or extremely well coordinated group

The bursting buff is nasty

[sharp lotus]

@oblique garnet Whats your ilvl?

[dusk locust]

i got so used to doing keys with points instead of %

having to go back to % is triggering me

[oblique garnet]

390

[sharp lotus]

ty

[oblique garnet]

Why

[sharp lotus]

I wanted to get an idea on gear requirements for updated m+

[oblique garnet]

Could probably do 10s with 380 or so gear as soon as you get used to the buffed bursting

Its really the only thing that kills you

[sand egret]

gotta respect the burst!

mongo DH's are going to be the end of me tho

[sharp lotus]

realistically I am going to get cooked for now.

[oblique garnet]

Depends

If you pull smart

Youre fine

Just try to avoid small adds at any cost

[old zephyr]

the pull before the 2nd boss at shrine.
gotta make me sad

[sand egret]

i'm not even getting NEAR that place this week

[sharp lotus]

I know youre saying that because of bursting, but should I also follow that rule with reaping to avoid spell casters at the 20% spawn?

[old zephyr]

I not getting near that place ANY week lol

[oblique garnet]

Nah it didnt make a difference the reaping adds itself werent bad only time i dropped low was when i couldnt see the smash due to quaking

[sharp lotus]

Its 1 spell caster to every 5 melee right?

[oblique garnet]

Probably i wasnt paying any attention to it tbh xD

[sharp lotus]

lol

[oblique garnet]

Also if you can kill all the bosses before 100% you dont get the last reaping adds

[sharp lotus]

Yeah, I was creeping in @fierce juniper twitch when I saw him do that

[oblique garnet]

Have to figure out the best routes etc still for reaping

[sharp lotus]

couldnt figure it out at first, thought it was just a similar bug to lower kara progress bar

[inland mesa]

Anyone figure out how to fix the mongo lag for conclave?

[sand egret]

is that the platform fight?

with the loa?

[median wigeon]

the boots from opulence make coins fall out of your ass every time you jump, interesting

[oblique garnet]

Its not good for my habit of jumping randomly

[sand egret]

I'd check out your draw distance/particle effects @inland mesa , if it's a specific fight it's probably an environment issue where its particularly expensive

[median wigeon]

im sure ill be annoyed my it soon but its p cool at the moment

[inland mesa]

Yeah it's the loa where the gigantic bird fills the room with wind

[sand egret]

yep, wind effects in WoW are SUPER expensive

[inland mesa]

I usually play and stream at a 9 on graphic settings with 60 to 70 fps

Turned it down to a 3 and I was still lagging out

[sand egret]

yeah sounds like you're getting a bottleneck

on your CPU side tbh

[sharp lotus]

yeah, video encoding will chunk your cpu

[inland mesa]

What's the fix, I dont feel like my CPU is bad but can't remember specific thought it was an i5

[sand egret]

hmmmmmm

[inland mesa]

Because trying to pick up kimball and dodge the frog all while in slide showing is beyond obnoxious

[primal crypt]

Make sure your gpu is set to no scaling as well

That aspect ratio setting is killing game fps

Wow nice typing yam

Wow!

...

[sand egret]

yeah if you're upscaling

that's a lot of extra work

[inland mesa]

So turn off certain things instead of just scale down to 3 o settings?

[sand egret]

nice typing Yam!

[sharp lotus]

Your cpu is probably solid, its just the workload is too complex. You can do things such as lower sound quality, close any background programs like steam, and clean up your internet browser. If you are looking to improve your system you can buy a dedicated sound card

[primal crypt]

I have a 1080/i7

[chilly brook]

Hey Yam

Nice typing

[primal crypt]

And got insane fps drop

Thanks griff

[chilly brook]

👍🏻

[uneven mason]

NVidia-Intel - found your problem

[primal crypt]

^

[uneven mason]

find some chips with real multithreading

[obsidian bluff]

Should I go for a 2 stack of Bloodsport, or a 2 stack of Callous Reprisal?

[primal crypt]

Turned off the scaling and gg

[sand egret]

also, make sure you get the latest nvidia drivers if you're using that

[inland mesa]

Sound card, whaaat

[chilly brook]

I’m looking forward to seeing benchmarks for this Radeon VII

[uneven mason]

@obsidian bluff BLoodsport

[sharp lotus]

You are seriously going to tell this dude to drop a couple hundred dollars for multithreading?

[sand egret]

Chewtoy, make sure you're not upscaling your resolution rendering (it's a slider bar option)

[chilly brook]

BlOoDsPoRt

[uneven mason]

WHy not he already dropped over 1000$ for coasters

[sharp lotus]

Sound cards divert processing load from the chipset and cpu.

[primal crypt]

Make sure you upgrade your sound card

For more fps

[chilly brook]

Lol

[uneven mason]

I DID

Literally have a PCIE soundcard

[chilly brook]

Just get a DAC

[uneven mason]

mostly because when my last set of speakers blew

[chilly brook]

xD

[sharp lotus]

replace your cpu with a sound card

[sand egret]

griff, I approve your new icon

[uneven mason]

it fried my onboard.

[chilly brook]

🙃

[sand egret]

WAY better than your last

[inland mesa]

Does 980gtx actually use direct x 11 or whatever the new one is

[chilly brook]

Lol

[uneven mason]

DX12 and no

[chilly brook]

Don’t diss my renaissance Pepe

[primal crypt]

@inland mesa need a higher card

For the dx12

[sharp lotus]

or just switch to dx11 in settings

[sand egret]

well repping my team >>>>> pepe anyday 😃

[chilly brook]

Figured I’d show my support on discord, since I wear the same Pats sweatshirt that I’ve had since like 2010 almost every day

[sand egret]

hahah yesss

[chilly brook]

Literally the Belichik sweatshirt but with sleeves

[sand egret]

you born there?

[chilly brook]

Nah

I’m an adopted fan lmao

Couldn’t be asked to like the cowboys

[silk moat]

What settings should I play at withan i7 9700k + a GTX 1070 (non TI) on 1080&/or 1440p?

[stone imp]

1440p

[sand egret]

smart move. I'm born and raised in Boston, not like I had a choice 😃

[sharp lotus]

Does wow even scale to 1440?

[sand egret]

YUP

[stone imp]

yes

[silk moat]

Can I play max at 1440p with that setup?

[sand egret]

since I moved to 1440 i'll never go back

[stone imp]

Not quite max, but pretty high

[chilly brook]

Literally five year old me was like “Dad your team sucks”; and then I also said “I don’t like California anyways so my actual native teams are out the window”

[silk moat]

Widescreen 1440p

[stone imp]

Some of the antialiasing options will slow it down, but most effects can be turned up

[silk moat]

Hmm

Like an 8 or 9 on the slider ?

[sharp lotus]

all the way up

[chilly brook]

I wouldn’t mind actually settling down in the Boston area after I’m graduated

[stone imp]

8 would probably be fine. Especially if you're not going at 144 fps

[sand egret]

id manually turn down rendering distance, personally. That one is a huge burden in most of the world

[astral crystal]

i copped an i7 8700k this christmas

no ragrets

[chilly brook]

Shoulda got a 2700 😜

[astral crystal]

wew lad

i quit amd permanently

[primal crypt]

Wew

[chilly brook]

Oof

[primal crypt]

WEW

<3

[chilly brook]

I’m just more for whatever is the best deal

Lately in regards to intel/Nvidia the answer is “that ain’t it Chief”

[astral crystal]

depends on what you want i guess

[oblique garnet]

Actually working support for games and stuff you pretty much have to go intel and nvidia