the last message mostly
#protection
marble cipher
anyone know if you can use the azerite power finder on wowhead without taking into account the new ring that will be added "soon"?
Cause all azerite you can find on there now has the extra rings on it
gaunt dawn
Hi
What's up?
Parry has a Dr on the rate of return from the rating
You can parry streak with enough stat or luck or both
sick sentinel
okay, thank you 😄
gaunt dawn
People misuse the term DR alot
What they mean is Diminishing rate of return
I assume that's what you tagged me for @sick sentinel ?
gaunt dawn
Sounds like someone wants to be a high tier patron
sick sentinel
just what Kage screenshotted
gaunt dawn
Patreon link in the top banner of TankNotes xo
sick sentinel
i'm not doing that
sorry skinner
I don't know what tanknotes is
I don't want to be taught the class I just wanna theorycraft
gaunt dawn
cosmic cargo
if you have 100% parry change
cosmic cargo
you straight up have 100% parry chance
sick sentinel
ye but you might not parry the next one
sick sentinel
I'm just piecing from what the tanknotes boy said
hot locust
@sick sentinel you do not have any less chance of parrying the next attack after parrying the previous.
cosmic cargo
each parry roll is completely independant
hot locust
No
He's saying that as your parry stat increases, you get less parry chance per point of the stat.
hot locust
Correct
sick sentinel
thank you
cosmic cargo
but what the guy said on the screenshot was a bunch of BS
marble cipher
tanknotes down by any chance?
cosmic cargo
and i still don't get why would parry have that much to do with dhs 🤔
marble cipher
Or it's just my work proxy acting up cause it's possibly meta tagged with "gaming" category
¯_(ツ)_/¯
cosmic cargo
they only have 15% extra during demon spikes
sick sentinel
not down
marble cipher
then it's the proxy again
marble cipher
but sure, wowhead can pass through the proxy 🤣
sick sentinel
marble cipher
oh, that's pretty useful, thanks
sick sentinel
np
it isn't a proxy per se
but it works well on static websites
it saves the current webpage
doesn't work with flash or stuff like that
marble cipher
meh, doesn't seem to work either (can't browse correctly, stuff not being loaded), but it's fine, I'll just check some stuff on phone in stead
sick sentinel
sorry 😦
marble cipher
By the way for what it's worth, tanknotes still states spell reflect is usable on growths 😉
Damn blizz devs for fixing this fun! 😄
primal crypt
Man, you should have heard discord last night lul
The officers were going at it
People stressin the hell out
violet zodiac
Can someone help
primal crypt
So much toxicity
empty terrace
@violet zodiac get a life.
violet zodiac
I have one
hollow thorn
If you are gonna call urself R2D2 then u gotta have a R2D2 profile pic
violet zodiac
I cant stand living
hollow thorn
My guild died cus of lack of progress and ppl quitting the game 🤷
primal crypt
Yeah
Seems to be the common thing now
Join a guild, watch it die
Join another and watch it die
It's all these small no name guilds though
hollow thorn
the guild i joined havnt died yet, but we havnt killde ghuun since i joined
primal crypt
Only two weeks to go
hollow thorn
Like we havnt tried
due to lack of warlocks
but ill gear my god damn warlock if i have to
im getting CE
primal crypt
Yikes
gaunt dawn
Imagine if any of those small no name guild leaders ever asked for advice
I've helped a few personally
Mostly cos friends are in them and they ask me for help
violet zodiac
I need HELP
primal crypt
@violet zodiac find it in general chat if you're not going to explain yourself
violet zodiac
i can't stand living
primal crypt
Holy shit
gaunt dawn
If you want someone to help you with anything you ask at a whim. Pay someone
dense cradle
or a therapist
primal crypt
@violet zodiac call this 1-800-273-8255
viscid hatch
just call suicide hotline poggers
hollow thorn
Is that the logic song?
empty terrace
@viscid hatch 
hollow thorn
That shits fire
carmine wadi
Now you here?
strong horizon
carmine wadi
Didn´t find DH discord?
violet zodiac
Ya
viscid hatch
@empty terrace what? it's very good, already called it
viscid hatch
c:
violet zodiac
Im not going to live
viscid hatch
unlucky
strong horizon
androids are not organic lifeforms
violet zodiac
I have cancer
marble cipher
@hollow thorn We recleared G'huun yesterday, the 5% nerf was veeeery noticable compared to our first kill. You'll get it soon enough man!
viscid hatch
Everyone that steps into here does
violet zodiac
Im not
empty terrace
👌
carmine wadi
I get very angry if you joke about this.
primal crypt
Go try a healer discord
strong horizon
proof that BFA is bad for you
primal crypt
They should be able to help you
violet zodiac
Link
viscid hatch
@carmine wadi sowwy
hollow thorn
joins 570 guild
completes trial in 3 raids cus plays well
3 reclears
0 ghuun pulls
marble cipher
0 pulls?
carmine wadi
My best friend has cancer and he´s 24 years old!.....
marble cipher
Why, cause lack of locks?
primal crypt
Putting you on ignore now, thanks for the fun! Hope you live :)
hollow thorn
Yup
marble cipher
how many you got?
hollow thorn
Like 1 alt lmao
vocal nimbus
beat you in the end
hollow thorn
the alt was on the firrst kill i think tho
vocal nimbus
KEK
carmine wadi
We thought it´s gone and his parents were lucky and now after christmas he got the message that it´s back.
marble cipher
two is enough to warant pulls, not ideal, but should be enough to at least get some pulls going
a guild, with one lock, what is this!! 😄
What guild are you in by the way?
hollow thorn
Ill gear my 370 wlock if i have to
marble cipher
nvm, found you, realm rank 17, where did all the locks go?!
tight tree
I am cancer survivor and i do cancer jokes pretty often tbh. Shit will destroy your sanity unless you learn to laugh at it. But that was my way of coping, to each their own. I guess it is not so funny to relatives and loved ones at the very least.
I have no hope od downing ghuun 😦 Was obvious from 1st pulls that we dont have nearly enough DPS and coordination
marble cipher
It's a tedious fight if coordination is not on point, true there
primal crypt
YEA!
marble cipher
Don't remember how many pulls we had before getting CE, but, it was quite a lot
dense cradle
hes hard for a first raid tier boss
tight tree
Its just too late at this point, feels like new raid like tomorrow already
dense cradle
but not hard of an endboss imo
marble cipher
Most annoying thing mainly is the need for X amount of Y class to make the fight a lot easier
dense cradle
they learned from tomb clearly
marble cipher
Mainly looking at lock portals and solo capable runners (even though quite a few can solo run)
tight tree
For a bunch of weebs, our DPS not paying nearly enough attention to tentacles imo. THey destroying us 😉
empty terrace
He was hard before the nerfs thats true
dense cradle
is it that hard to have your kick bound
tight tree
Dont ask me. I am highest interrupts amount for all our pulls, and i am a tank.
marble cipher
Thing is, on mythic, people actually need to do mechanics or it's a non-kill, if they don't get that (dps, tanks, healers, don't care), they don't belong in mythic.
dense cradle
sometimes i wonder why higher end pvpers think pve takes no skill
then you have people like this
i'd say avatar was a harder boss than ghuun tho
marble cipher
Didn't raid mythic in Legion, well, I did, but only in Antorus
I heared avatar was aweful if not stacked with rogues
dense cradle
only if you progged super early
tight tree
I honestly think that any PvE-er could greatly benefit from playing arena at least a little. Teaching to kick, pay attention to positioning, NO BACKPEDALING, at least small amount of thinking outside the box
dense cradle
like top 20 world
empty terrace
Just like ghuun
tight tree
Actually i take backpedaling part back, fuckton of them in arena too lol
empty terrace
Backpaddle is fine in pve and pvp
tight tree
Yeah i have backpedal unbound on every toon except tanks
empty terrace
Same if i have to move boss as tank or move from a mechanic as dps
dense cradle
doesnt happen in pvp at higher ratings tho
tight tree
Tanks benefit greatly from strafing
empty terrace
If the ring is just behind u
tight tree
backpedal only good if you need to move boss inch or 2
dense cradle
the most stark difference
tight tree
dangerous to strafe with hitboxes being hot mess now
dense cradle
is healers who only raid
vs arena healers
0 situational awareness on the former usually
tight tree
Нуы
sick sentinel
Can cause a player to not have their head up their ass?
tight tree
Yes*
empty terrace
Guess i tell method not to bkpaddle then
primal crypt
Нуы
empty terrace
Cant do that as dps
tight tree
Very rarely moving slower > moving faster, and only for tanks. If Method raiders backpedal, they could do even better if they stop ;P
Unless there is specific mechanic that punishes fast movement
dense cradle
need to find that ss
empty terrace
Yikes
junior igloo
It's not that it's better, but it's often equal
dense cradle
where cayna says method might lose to limit next tier
if theres a tank dependent fight
junior igloo
Why turn 90°, strafe, turn 90° again, when you can just press 1 button instead?
empty terrace
^
dense cradle
nothing will change my mind about healing raids being the easiest shit ever though
sick sentinel
Because then that means we have to click or abilities
Like we are noobs
Obviously
dense cradle
and best tanks are often dps mains
empty terrace
Like me pogu
dense cradle
or at least know how to play their dps specs competently
gaunt dawn
The worst tanks are the ones who exclusively play tank
Is the more accurate statement
empty terrace
Sco Omegalul
dense cradle
or
healer mains who sometimes play shitty ranged
then put them on melee
omegalul
tight tree
Its not that i cannot DPS, but guild want me to tank every time 😉
I play DPS and healer in arena tho
oblique garnet
playing dps in raids is boring tho
tight tree
always good to have other role's perspective
Cant be good tank if you do not know the pain of melee DPS trying to follow boss positioned poorly
dense cradle
guy who tanked keys for me was like
"i tank raid sometimes when i dont trust anyone else in there to tank"
tight tree
luls
empty terrace
Sounds like a guy that still struggles in hc
dense cradle
lol
oblique garnet
You wouldnt believe how unbelieveably bad players pugging hc uldir are
dense cradle
or like
empty terrace
Thats why u dont pug raids
dense cradle
"every time i tank i get accused of spamming taunt on cd cuz my cotank does 0 dps"
oblique garnet
Gotta pug on alts
empty terrace
Cause most of those ppl bought the game got a free 110 boost and lvled with no knowlegde
astral crystal
w-what's wrong with tanks that only play tanks.... smdh....
dense cradle
can we go back to argus where half the raid can be dead
empty terrace
Xd
U join a pug
If they cant kill mother in first room
You link wars only 8/8hc
And you tell em
Learn to play
empty terrace
🤔 markers
empty terrace
astral crystal
clearing heroic more than 2-3 times ResidentSleeper
empty terrace
Need them azerite for scrapper
sick sentinel
Won't lie, I do miss one of my old guilds
Just couldnt stand the GM
Me and the tank had the best synergy
@sick sentinel should have asked him to leave with you
Nah he was loyal to it
Plus I'm not one to get buddy buddy with many people
okay
It's the main reason I don't a have team for m+, I have a lot of dps/healers add me but I just don't invite/group up with them
I've seen too many times from being with a lot of guild what happens when u get buddy buddy with people
Never works out
signal plover
Yeah it's rly tough having a consistent grp to do keys with on a whim and raid n shit
Idk how I tolerate it
sick sentinel
Oh I'm just fucking weird, a lot of people want me to do keys with them but if I need to do a key, I refuse to invite then
Not because they are bad, but just because
I'm too afraid to do keys
I hate the dungeons
I don't want to walk into tol dagor
It feels like it's 7 years long
Lol
tulip arch
So a prison sentence?
signal plover
@tulip arch 10/10
tulip arch
/bow
vocal nimbus
@junior igloo what do you think about taking a 375 prot for reclear?
Is it gonna hurt a lot 🤔
junior igloo
What's the worst that can happen? You relog...
sweet kettle
what are you guys thinking about the alchemy trinket for prot
marble cipher
I'm using it at the moment, I like it (allthough I don't really have many trinkets to choose from anyway)
sweet kettle
i have rezans 370 and 365 howlers with socket
dont know though the strength and the extra healing from pot seems pretty good
sweet kettle
yeah rezan is too good
sick sentinel
If raiding howler would be better imo
sand egret
id drop howler myself
sweet kettle
gonna make it and try it then
sand egret
i cant stand the trinket personally
sweet kettle
that vers it gives is some pretty poggers
sand egret
its nice but the cd is 2 min and the on-use itself is awkward as fuck
aka not consistent so there’s a whole placement component. overall I dont like running one (i even have a 395 i refuse to use)
cobalt trellis
starting to love that one, hoping for some azerite with BoM-trait
sick sentinel
The vers is good if u care about sharing it with ur group
I tend to try to pop it when I'm far enough to get the full 1k + from vers
Where u get that trinket
cobalt trellis
mine? think it was from tortollan emissary
marble cipher
I'm using that one as well
Got a 370 vial as well, but I need to check which of the two syncs up better with Avatar, for now I'm just using Feather + Alchemist trinket
cobalt trellis
feather with 1 min is always slightly behind avatar for me... avatar tends to be between 45-55 seconds (might be feelycrafty)
marble cipher
Yeah, I honnestly haven't checked, I just have it macro'd to Avatar, so it could be that I'm missing quite a bit of usage because of that
cobalt trellis
its not 20 sec duration so i still pop it couple of seconds after avatar pops, still fine for me
i have it both on a single button + binded with avatar
marble cipher
That's a much more clever way of doing it, I'm usually way too lazy for on use trinkets like that, so I just macro it and never look back
Which is why I actually prefer equip trinkets
sacred bear
is gorefiends gonna be relevant in Bfd
Not sure whether to still work on Blood on the side
or if i should work on a prot warrior
sacred bear
gorefiends grasp, the DK mass grip
cobalt trellis
oh ok nvm
i have no idea wether there is some kind of add fight, where mass grip really helps (in a way like zekvoz)
what is you co-tank classes choice?
sacred bear
vengeance lol
sand egret
what an awkward question to ask in prot lol
cobalt trellis
so in this case youd still have chain sigil
modern brook
gore fiends is a skill for ppl who try and get hit w/o shields tbh
Just stomp them so they're dead
signal plover
Always have a pocket BDK alt for grip memes if ur doing prog raiding
signal plover
Granted mine is like 340 ilvl and we didn't even use it for mythrax but lel
sick sentinel
Why would u use for myth
signal plover
If I followed my own advice aggressively could made that boss less painful
sick sentinel
Rock strat
signal plover
For MC knocks
dusk locust
instantly gripping people out of cc spheres
signal plover
Ya so is a ton of other shit
sick sentinel
Thank you for reminding me about orbs though
signal plover
But dk was the meme
cosmic cargo
for that you didn't necessarely need bdk
signal plover
I don't think it's up yet
cosmic cargo
and most people had fdks anyway
signal plover
Right
marble cipher
Ring of Peace the orbs, lovely too, and you don't pull someone to a location where you might not want him to be
sick sentinel
Warrior needs a chain grip that does literally the exact same thing as death grip
signal plover
Imo tho, if yet gonna need grip memes it's best covered by one of the tank spots
Like I said, tons of other shit useful for mythrax
sick sentinel
I get distracted tanking ghuun sometimes
In a pug I let my other dude get hit by a 24-stack bite
signal plover
I get distracted by healers standing next to boils with "NOT SOAKING" flashing above their heads
uneven mason
Perfect example of Meme BDK grip being useful - My ranged are absolute shit at stacking properly on Zek'voz so I get to DPS while the Frost DK goes blood to have Gorefiends for the little soldier ants
astral crystal
i'm the solo tank while my monk co tank runs orb in p2, i've gotten all the way up to 29 stacks
no big deal
marble cipher
my co tank fell "asleep" once too, I was at 31 stacks before he said "oh god, sorry man!! I was wondering why I wasn't taking as much damage the last minute"
marble cipher
Was Mythic too, so, it kinda hurt
signal plover
29 on mythic ghuun?
marble cipher
which I wasn't used to
astral crystal
yealh on mythic
modern brook
S h i e l d b l o c k
marble cipher
(was on my monk by the way)
signal plover
Did u roll all the healer externals?
modern brook
dang
signal plover
O lol
modern brook
nvm
marble cipher
no externals 😉
astral crystal
nope
marble cipher
just double holy pala spam
astral crystal
that was just messing around trying with my own CDs
modern brook
side bar; anyone see kultiran's racial brush it off yet
astral crystal
shield block is pretty strong
modern brook
+1% verse, heal 2%of damage taken over 4 seconds
sick sentinel
Needs to be a cap
marble cipher
and now check the Zandalari ones 😉
sick sentinel
Or that's literally reverse stagger
astral crystal
it's so clear the health regen is most likely a typo
always funny to read comments on wowhead though
sick sentinel
Zandalari have a 4s 100% heal
astral crystal
HORDE BIAS..... BLIZZARD YOUVE DONE IT AGAIN
marble cipher
health regen and the armor proc are most likely typo's, not possible otherwise 😄
sick sentinel
It's hilarious
astral crystal
they will 100% not have a 100% heal on a 1.5 m cd
modern brook
I mean taking numbers on PTR seriously is a joke
astral crystal
that's just asinine to believe it could be like that
marble cipher
"yes, I've got an extra life every 90 seconds, and you?" 😄
modern brook
the concept of the ability is what i care about
putting reverse stagger on a racial seems really good
astral crystal
UNLESS it's interrupted by damage or something
sick sentinel
It needs to be capped
astral crystal
in that case it'd make sense
modern brook
I'd assume
astral crystal
KT human racial is going to be opiss though
modern brook
currently it has no such modifier
astral crystal
2% healing on damage taken
modern brook
i mean 2% over 4 seconds without reducing intial hit
its sorta whatever on everything cept brewmaster
sick sentinel
They need to cap that shit
astral crystal
is it over 4 seccs?
sick sentinel
Ya
modern brook
as written on Wowhead
Increases Versatility by 1%. When you take damage, heal for 2% of that amount over 4 sec.
sand egret
has it been confirmed to a) stack on itself and b) does it apply pre or post mit
modern brook
im not even sure its been cofirmed to work lol
oblique garnet
Wadis??
sand egret
i don't think it'll be too out of wack
sick sentinel
They need to bring back premade ptr characters
warped hound
the only out of wack one will be the troll heal
modern brook
My favorite M+ pug is +11; 1.5k io group lead by a 700 io rag hunter
ionic fern
On a +16 freehold avg hit was 13k..meaning that you will heal for 260 over 4s per melee..
:GWqlabsYaoLUL:
oblique garnet
im 1895 can i round that up to 1900 ? Weep
modern brook
def got that alot
sick sentinel
No
oblique garnet
fuck you i do whatever i want
ionic fern
I'm 2k cause 1.7 is closer to 2k than it is to 1k
modern brook
the difference between 1895 and 1900 is a lot less than the difference between 995 and 1000 though
like the timing on your chest doesnt start making a sizable difference until you start breaking 13-14+'s
sick sentinel
Anyway
5 difference isn't the point I mean
It's people at 943 who list "1k+ only"
Which on a technical level is fine
But when they're using it to imply their own io it isn't
ionic fern
Their key..they got the power.:(
ionic fern
I mean..if you apply for a job they set the standards
cosmic cargo
the heal is probably applied to damage before DR so it'll be basically equally strong on everything
or close to equal
cosmic cargo
yeah but if it's pre-mitigation damage it'll only work on the damage before it goes into the stagger pool
uneven mason
pre mitigation damage for a tank
cosmic cargo
same way that versa and armor or any other DR only affect damage before it goes into the stagger pool
uneven mason
would be sizeable amount of healing
cosmic cargo
yeah
uneven mason
like pre mit damage on a warrior
if its post mitigation
thats uh
well pretty much useless
cosmic cargo
basically
uneven mason
about as useful as the old trolls "you continue 5% Of your HP regeneration in combat"
which turned out to be like, 5 health every 6 seconds at level 60
daring marlin
Not gonna be blocking while you’re regeneratin’. 😃
cosmic cargo
if you mean the zandalari shit guilford it works like blooddrinker so...
can still parry/dodge (99% sure block too)
daring marlin
You know that for sure or you’re talking shit?
I didn’t see any text like this on the tooltip.
So by definition it’s not like blooddrinker.
vale anchor
What is this abilty you speak of?
modern brook
t o o l t i p s
astral crystal
tooltips providing reliable information in 2019 OMEGALUL
daring marlin
Have any of you tested it or not lol?
strong horizon
Twitter
signal plover
Still overreacting based on PTR data in 2019
Ayyyy
Idk how they thought this was ok tho...
daring marlin
Who is overreacting? I just said you’ll probably not be able to block during the channel.
daring marlin
And this goofy dude jumps in like BUT MUH BLOODDRINKER lol
cosmic cargo
chi burst doesn't say it either
but works like that
and panthea said it sometime earlier
gaunt dawn
It has two spell flags for channel
Still early spell data not been fully fledged out
It's schrodingers heal
uneven mason
2 weeks out "Still early"
sand egret
cum grano salis
gaunt dawn
You won't be able to unlock until all of lfr is out
Then it's was campaign
Then you unlock
astral crystal
uneven mason
I remember, a time, in another place, had a similar name..it was also about protection warriors, and the line was "its still early, there is time"
gaunt dawn
Prot warrior was fine all of Uldir
final mist
We were quite good, if you could play well.
uneven mason
Yeah I Know
gaunt dawn
You just sucked without gear
uneven mason
more meant alpha
gaunt dawn
Dh has a similar problem
uneven mason
actually we were fine even without super gear
we just needed to have the laser focus of a razerblade unicorn
sand egret
is this a razorblade in the shape of unicorn?
modern brook
no wonder i hated raiding so much
uneven mason
its a unicorn made from laserblades
sand egret
or a unicorn weilding a razorblade
oh, so its sentient?
or is the artist focused to create such a work?
sand egret
well now that's just silly
final mist
Sometimes you guys make me worry.
sand egret
I'm just here to get the details Sal
final mist
I didn't play Warrior at all and I was still better than you Mac xd
sand egret
OH
uneven mason
I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
daring marlin
wow taxic
modern brook
:oof:
uneven mason
You played paladin
gaunt dawn
Imagine thinking that warrior was hard to play
astral crystal
🤡
uneven mason
imagine thinking they're not going to let horde have another OP racial
uneven mason
Well Guilford
gaunt dawn
Not really
sand egret
Oh Sal with the jokes 😃
gaunt dawn
It's the same as the others
daring marlin
idk
gaunt dawn
The 'hardest' would be paladin
final mist
You're mistaking ease of play with forgiveness of the class
uneven mason
You can't survive without pressing buttons as the other tanks
sand egret
true, living with the fact that you're playing a Paladin is, in fact, difficulty
final mist
BRM is more forgiving, the other tanks aren't
uneven mason
BrM you can spam whatever spam button you want and live.
silk moat
I’m trying to build my m+ raider IO score. I’m pretty new to m+ since I only started playing wow in September. What is the better way to push my score. Clearing out keys a level at a time while trying to time them (do all dungeons +2, then +3 working my way up etc) OR just jumping straight into higher keys (8,9,10?) and hoping the bull doesn’t throw me off the saddle?
My ilvl is 381.
I mean m+tank score not raider
sand egret
Ride yo key
daring marlin
then imagine neo exdeath with 20 people
gaunt dawn
BrM is easy sure. But you're a burden to the raid team if you play it wrong
daring marlin
omegalul
uneven mason
LORD SCO HATH DECREE
gaunt dawn
As you require 1.5 healers for 1 tank
cosmic cargo
pala was better in uldir
gaunt dawn
Imagine listening to a tank ranking
final mist
I may be misremembering, sure, but I was under the impression I was playing Paladin because I enjoyed it more, and I was pretty adamant about the fact that Warriors were pretty good
uneven mason
Utility > Mitigation
final mist
Idk, might be just me
silk moat
My key is a 10 from DPS
uneven mason
I always thought you were a bear tbh
cosmic cargo
rather shoot my foot
silk moat
But tanking is so diff obv
sand egret
@silk moat most important thing is to learn the dungeons well enough to know how to optimize your runs (pulls etc). I'd ride your key for a bit to get the lay of the land but at your ilvl you should be able to get it up pretty fast
daring marlin
paladin is pretty fun @final mist I just hate AW/Seraphim/HotP on the gcd
gaunt dawn
I mean IP is still a shit button to press (thematically)
sand egret
have a group to help you/run with helps a lot
daring marlin
feelsbfaman
gaunt dawn
Hotp feels worse
silk moat
Thanks blade song
final mist
Unless you have a solid group, Morg, pugginng is probably your best bet
cosmic cargo
idk i didn't have as much of a problem with HoTP
uneven mason
feels worse off GCD
cosmic cargo
pala has more dead GCDs though
final mist
Learn the dungeons in a smaller key and work your way up as you get more comfortable
cosmic cargo
or nearly dead
final mist
Warrior relies in part on knowing and expecting incoming damage patterns
gaunt dawn
Hotp on gcd is the main reason I don't play paladin as much
daring marlin
I just miss legion prot pally
sick sentinel
omegalul
stone cloud
^^^
uneven mason
Knowing routs and pulls (what comes in them etc) > gear/spec etc..
daring marlin
so fun
uneven mason
HoTP at least feels like it does something occasionally
silk moat
Aye
stone cloud
HFC prot pally was better then legion
uneven mason
I am leveling my paladin finally though
daring marlin
:^)
uneven mason
in my little break before raids
gaunt dawn
Mop was the best iteration
short temple
Hi warriors! ones wielders of the burning plate of the worldbreaker. Is there a way in BfA to mog the shield but not the weapon?
stone cloud
Out of the last 3 xpacs wod was by far the best for raiding
final mist
No, artifacts are linked
gaunt dawn
Of prot pala
uneven mason
@short temple no
short temple
REEEEEEEEE
uneven mason
Which is mega sadface
stone cloud
I agree actually panthea
daring marlin
@gaunt dawn you mean
gaunt dawn
Not vengance
daring marlin
being #1 dps, heal and the solo tank felr good?
gaunt dawn
As in utility toolkit was huge
daring marlin
hell yes brother
stone cloud
Member when you had abilities from your other specs while tank spec?
stone cloud
Them were the days
uneven mason
I remember loving prot in MoP and hating fury and arms because of the CS windows
and the buildup with HS
that last iteration of HS made me sad
uneven mason
stone cloud
It and probably the most iconic warrior ability will be back once classic is live ❤
Why is there no sunder icon o.O
daring marlin
wg is gonna be fun tbh
wooden radish
WoD > BFA
sand egret
im weird and i didn't hate ashran. WG was cool for a bit, but I wasn't a huge fan personally.
long tinsel
How are you guys dealing with affixes this week?
main vault
Generally not leaving mobs in Sanguine
daring marlin
I felt bad for alliance on my server
sand egret
moving shit out of pools?
main vault
Thats the best way
daring marlin
wg wise
sick sentinel
same as always boot soup clap
long tinsel
Splatoon?
sand egret
bingo
(but seriously this week isn't super bad generally speaking. It can stink for a few pulls but you can always bring a displacement in your group as a failsafe. RoP, Grip, Typhoon, Thundertstorm, etc.)
sick sentinel
i loved ashran
it was so fun
i had like all my characters fully geared with pvp
gear
conquest and i would go around wrecking nobs
ops
this was meant to go in #off-topic
noble solar
how many stacks in greater sparing dummy at Skyhold can a geared tank take?
i want to know how bad im doing, or rather good, i managed to survive (without LS or SW) up to 5 stacks
jovial verge
with bracers in legion you could get that mofo above 100, big enough to tank both of the sparring dummies at once 😦
noble solar
thanks, just make sure to not use LS or SW
noble solar
use your toolkit, dont use long CDs which are 2-3 min long
uneven mason
its also a large portio nof our AM uptime
testing prots tankyness by literally just standing still and doing nothing 🤔
uneven mason
and Nexii is bad at warrior
main vault
^
uneven mason
You've been playing a warrior on TV
but you're not really one
YOu have a MUCH longer name in the Druid discord
main vault
Im only 370 though
uneven mason
means you heart is still attached to your 🐻
noble solar
im 370 aswell /:
sick sentinel
im only 381 with the gear i have on rn
noble solar
i suck tits i guess
main vault
Well my heart will always be Bear
noble solar
mind me asking
uneven mason
fuzzy and prone to failing at major mechanics ?
uneven mason
🤔 he isn't playing VDH
main vault
If you think War is the 2nd worst you are special
main vault
Paladin is pgood
noble solar
things chanegd from 8.0?
uneven mason
I mean, I might put Bear above BDK right now
noble solar
i just came back after quiting
uneven mason
Warriors were never bad
main vault
Imagine being stuck in beta
noble solar
they were never bad, but relative to other tanks they were
dusk locust
warriors were always fine they were just hard to play
uneven mason
as in - if the player was bad (me) then the tank was bad
main vault
You are trolling at this point
uneven mason
I wouldn't say hard, just more prone to fuckups
sick sentinel
385 @noble solar https://gyazo.com/dbe70dc03ad43b4ba6214e4d50a80768
stark sage
the tankiness metric has been fairly balanced all xpac, its the special utility category and self healing that we lack
uneven mason
rather more prone to dying from fuckups
sick sentinel
no cds
noble solar
they were fine, other tanks like VDH and DKs were raping M+
uneven mason
What Keladan said
uneven mason
#1 warrior in M+ right now I think is a prot warrior
Paladins and BrM were doing much better in M+ than VDH
noble solar
so much changed from 8.0?
uneven mason
not really
sick sentinel
We need mob movement utility
stark sage
there have been a couple prots in the top20 m+ dungeon leaderboards
uneven mason
just community perception
main vault
#1 warrior in M+ right now I think is a prot warrior
uneven mason
I meant what I said Nexxii
because its true
the #1 warrior - is prot
the #1 tank is also a warrior
👏
at least, yesterday it was
main vault
The #1 Warrior Tank is a war yes
uneven mason
might be different
main vault
#1 tank was never ever a war
stark sage
herudra is 10th
sick sentinel
I want to be a world top
uneven mason
there was a kr warrior who had the best run
cosmic cargo
warr has top runs in some keys
cosmic cargo
but pretty sure overal divine is still top
stark sage
yeah @uneven mason last week there was a top run with a warrior
but that was one specific run
cosmic cargo
it's not just 1 run tbh
uneven mason
a few hours
noble solar
the fact that there is 1 prot war at the top doesnt mean much tbh, but the proportion or the % of warriors at the top 50
uneven mason
but warriors are on the front page
cosmic cargo
ToS doesn't count
stark sage
yeh warriors are really good right now
cosmic cargo
cause ToS was lul last week
noble solar
cool
uneven mason
it just happens that most of the hard up teams were using BDK
noble solar
how do you get to 10 stacks?
cosmic cargo
because the better players already have geared BDKs and the xp
main vault
Skill usually
uneven mason
But Jdot
noble solar
spaming shield block and if its on CD ignore pain isnt doing the trick i guess
uneven mason
is running with a warrior now
cosmic cargo
i don't think divine for example has a warr alt
cosmic cargo
sco is the biggest joke
noble solar
why is sco a joke?
uneven mason
Sco is quite the successful businessman
main vault
oK now oyu are memeing
lavish oracle
@uneven mason Darkee switches between Warr and DK
uneven mason
yeah I know
stark sage
because he is from a huge brand and method likes to make clickbait for easy money @noble solar
uneven mason
^^
main vault
You know what I noticed
uneven mason
"BFA TANKS RANKED"
main vault
And honestly I think is pretty shitty
uneven mason
"8.1 HEALER RANKED"
main vault
From a GM view
stark sage
his rankings dont gather enough data or have enough critical though put into before being released
and is often incorrect
stark sage
or done before important balancing
cosmic cargo
is that their actual discord?
main vault
Yes
main vault
but if you are a world first GM
uneven mason
Sco is the hall of famer who runs things now as a manager
uneven mason
the guild is the business
cosmic cargo
it is
uneven mason
they have international recruiters , sponsors, talent scouts
The guild IS the business
uneven mason
without continuing to be #1 do you think they'll continue to be a business?
cosmic cargo
tbh the guild is the smallest part of the business at this point
main vault
The business wouldnt be shit without the guild
cosmic cargo
the MDI teams, the PVP teams, the streams
uneven mason
right, the guild came frist
main vault
You are literally arguing my point
uneven mason
but now its an Esports company
cosmic cargo
i'm not arguing against you 😛
daring marlin
This argument is stupid
main vault
Not you
daring marlin
lol
main vault
youre stupid
uneven mason
me either, but Method couldn't get the talent it needs without the business aspect of it.
keen spire
Nexii, you don't even go here
keen spire
^
uneven mason
No they were just REALLY good
In your heart, you're still fat and covered in hair in odd places.
keen spire
And irl?
cosmic cargo
but nexii aren't bears fine
main vault
But in the game Im a BE Female with a sword and shield
keen spire
😐
keen spire
facedesk
peacock more on a world of warcraft discord server bro
it's really impressive
lavish oracle
Over 300 confirmed sniper kills? You don't say
lavish oracle
Its a meme
main vault
@keen spire you literally asked you muppet
sick sentinel
Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
@main vault
main vault
Yeah Ive seen that
I dont think mentioning my rl job is the same as meming but ok, fuck me
If I said I worked at Walmart noone would give a shit
main vault
Only til we got caught
sand egret
then yeah i'd care
main vault
lol
sand egret
i got a list
sick sentinel
Being toptier in wow is difficult
oblique garnet
define toptier
main vault
Being #1 for sure is
sick sentinel
I dunno
sand egret
slightly above below top tier
cosmic cargo
seems people's definition of top tier is higher the higher they are
sand egret
well you're the #1 weep in the prot discord
main vault
#winning
sand egret
really was hoping another weep would show up and just be like "mother fucker..."
uneven mason
There are always pugs who are better than us
lavish oracle
[Pokemon theme plays, montage of Weep running dungeons]
sick sentinel
I would stream if I had a good enough pc
sand egret
naw, Weep is just hitting that training dummy to Eye of the Tiger
main vault
Weep would be a good pokemon
sand egret
literal sweatband on
uneven mason
relevant - heard the themesong in my house the other day, asked my wife what meme she was enjoying this time, turns out my daughter discovered Pokemon and is now addicted to it. RIP my sanity.
main vault
But what kind of Pokemon would he be?
sand egret
woah woah woah, this is a BIG parent moment here Mac
this is where you teach your kid the value of picking fire first as a starter
uneven mason
I know
but I didn't
I
showed her how to farm battle pets in wow
and now have a pint sized gold farmer
lavish oracle
Oh no
uneven mason
cause those pets sell for G
oblique garnet
I would stream if i had content lmao
main vault
:lul:
sick sentinel
Nah
main vault
Hmmm
sick sentinel
I misread that
cosmic cargo
water > fire starters
sick sentinel
And it was terrible
cosmic cargo
fact
sand egret
false
sand egret
water is for weenies
sick sentinel
Piplup and Torchic
sand egret
who like the easy way out in life
keen spire
it's all about bellsprout dawg
sand egret
also wtf are those
uneven mason
LoTR posters on her wall, D&D toys...she asked for a horse I said F THAT You're getting a Unicorn
sand egret
its squritle, charmander, and bulbasaur
cosmic cargo
mudkip > torchic