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nova gale
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lol

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Tol was easy. we almost +2 it with some scuffed pulls

primal crypt
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@nova gale bring me for siege plx

nova gale
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I need a weapon and shield guys... cba running around with 370

primal crypt
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We don't get that key

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Ever

oblique garnet
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Yamo my life is over

nova gale
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Don't get it

oblique garnet
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No longer rank 1

primal crypt
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Y

nova gale
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just wait for next week

primal crypt
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Y tho

oblique garnet
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Because somebody who pushes keys with proper team got his warrior alt to do keys

primal crypt
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A52 just got another push warrior too last night lol

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He just server transferred or something

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Or started pushing last night

nova gale
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Whats ingame names?

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wanna check you guys out yo

oblique garnet
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Zurol

primal crypt
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Yamorino A52 US Horde

nova gale
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Like gief your gear

oblique garnet
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Who

nova gale
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Both

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My char is bromlol

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running around in scuffed 345 shoulders and 370 weapon shield like reeeee

oblique garnet
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Oh yeah i saw you doing ml17 earlier today

primal crypt
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Reeee

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Give me your team

oblique garnet
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^

primal crypt
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Need proper team

nova gale
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Motherlode was gay

oblique garnet
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It is

nova gale
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but we pussied out hard on start

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could have gone way harder

primal crypt
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We went too hard

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On ML

nova gale
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😄

primal crypt
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Clearing right side

nova gale
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oof

primal crypt
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Around the bowl

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Ccinfested

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But i had to kite back

nova gale
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let me guess

primal crypt
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Forgot to recc

nova gale
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it went the wrong way

primal crypt
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Infested ran down LEFT side

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LMAO

nova gale
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loooool

primal crypt
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Yeah

oblique garnet
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10/10

nova gale
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I can see that coming from far

primal crypt
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Right side pack was lust pull too

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Everything at like 4%

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Roughly

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We were like ezclap

oblique garnet
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I like how the warmachines in the end are bugged

primal crypt
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Tooez

oblique garnet
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They just endlessly bolster

primal crypt
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Then we got pooped

oblique garnet
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Themselves

nova gale
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ah from the mines 😄

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lol

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well luckily we bug skip those

oblique garnet
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It still works?

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The evade skip?

drowsy relic
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wtf

nova gale
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y

oblique garnet
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Nice

drowsy relic
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345 azerite???

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my prayers are with you brother

nova gale
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Yeah 😦

acoustic fjord
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Hey guys c:

nova gale
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I rerolled a week ago or so

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from my monk

oblique garnet
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Oh fotm reroller

nova gale
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so thats why im scuffed

oblique garnet
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One more bois

nova gale
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well I rolled back!

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I mean... don't judge

primal crypt
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Judging

acoustic fjord
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U rerolled from monk ww to protect?

primal crypt
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Hard judging

acoustic fjord
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Or bm?

nova gale
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BrM

primal crypt
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I rerolled from bdk

oblique garnet
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Oi

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Yamo

primal crypt
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But this was at the start of expansion lel

oblique garnet
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What the fuck

primal crypt
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?

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🤔

oblique garnet
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Traitor

primal crypt
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I was bdk

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In legion

nova gale
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This character goes way back

primal crypt
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Vdk main

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Bdskskkw

acoustic fjord
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I play main ww monk. But they "suck" so I try to protect warri. :S

primal crypt
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Warrior wasn't too far behind

drowsy relic
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i wish i could drop DC shoulders man

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i had wearing lower ilvl azerites

primal crypt
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But i swapped to warrior in bfa

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At the start

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Everyone of course thought I was crazy

nova gale
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Used to be Korgas, the great leader of Alterac Valley Zergs. Took alliance to glory plenty of times lol. Farming that Unstoppable Force was good times.

primal crypt
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But then I started clapping cheeks

nova gale
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Hit that like button if you remember

primal crypt
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It was glorious

drowsy relic
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any prot warriors streaming

primal crypt
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Anyway, looos like we're doing shrine today

drowsy relic
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i want to watch some high level prot gameplay

primal crypt
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@oblique garnet latewhat should I watch out for

nova gale
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You can watch low level prot gameplay if you like

primal crypt
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I cant wait to feel the deep smash in my ass

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@drowsy relic late streams high keys

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I stream mid tier keys

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I think bromigo does high keys as well

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Sense does number 1 keys

sick sentinel
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sense uploads some of his runs on youtube

primal crypt
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Yup, Sense does his on youtube

acoustic fjord
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Sense is a fcking god

oblique garnet
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Huh i do?

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Yamorino everything

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Fuck those attendants

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In particular

primal crypt
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Super bolster eh

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Lmaoooo

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Love it

drowsy relic
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i would stream my keys but its literally me panicking and intercepting my rdps every pull lol

oblique garnet
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Non bolster cast does like 160k

drowsy relic
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im about to do a 18 WM if you guys want to watch

nova gale
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BTW

primal crypt
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@oblique garnet wat

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...

nova gale
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The feel when someone interrupts yous spell reflect

oblique garnet
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Waterblast boiS

primal crypt
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160k

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Jesus

oblique garnet
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Oh and the deepsmash

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Will kill you

primal crypt
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Yeah

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Smash this ass

oblique garnet
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And the infested is about the worst you can have

primal crypt
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Maybe I bring lock

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Just for that one ele

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That drop kicks you

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I really dont like him

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And if you banish they dont boster

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Bolster

oblique garnet
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Cc the attendants and pull the ele alone if youre playing that pack

primal crypt
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Yeah

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Running double rogue right now

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Because it's all I have

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Double rog open spot

drowsy relic
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i wish I knew rogues :/

astral crystal
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29k til heart 37 haHAA

primal crypt
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You mean 38

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That's all I have around me

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Rogues

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Nothing but rogues

sand egret
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oh man, i stumbled into a random m+ group that actually used discord. I gotta admit....I can see why people dont like the pug life

oblique garnet
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13k ap to 38 im ready to giveup

primal crypt
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42 before mythic

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gotta get that grind on

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too bad they're going to make it really fast to catch up in han

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jan*

gleaming fable
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How fast are we talking? Got a link @primal crypt ?

oblique garnet
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The same

astral crystal
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implying im going to be 42 before mythic

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wew lad

oblique garnet
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As it was before

primal crypt
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^

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same speed

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as before they turned it off

astral crystal
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im comfy hitting 38

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then hitting 42 about a month after raid

oblique garnet
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Gonna hit 38 next reset even without grinding hard

gleaming fable
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Thanks, gotcha.

nova gale
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How many Enlarged Heart can I solo on Taloc Mythic?

sand egret
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its a 30% reduction per week

ancient reef
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so i tried to sac my healer on a deadeye in td and instadied

astral crystal
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can probably do it with demo/spell reflect/shield wall

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cycle last stand and shield wall

sand egret
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and prayers

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you forgot prayers

astral crystal
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thots and prayers

oblique garnet
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@nova gale one

nova gale
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RIP

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Just pop shield wall, demo and spell reflect I guess?

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Do I need an external aswell? lool

primal crypt
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nah

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just clench your cheeks

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works everytime

astral crystal
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external good when no shield wall prob

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shouldn't really be an issue, youre not using externals for jack shit during that fight

drowsy relic
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jesus WM bolsters through the walls

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rip key

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we didnt realise until we bolstered the peasant 7 times :/

jagged bay
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😦

drowsy relic
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jesus christ we literally have 1 17 and 2 18 SOB's

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someone give me advice on how to time this

modern brook
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Bring lots of cc

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Cc things that are real

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Pull all the non elite 40yds away

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Repeat till you stop fighting fake shit

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Bolstering is a dps affix

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Tell them to stop padding and play the game

distant gyro
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How accurate is PAWN for tanking stats?

daring marlin
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awful

modern brook
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Pawn is awful for dps stats

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Stop using it

daring marlin
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pawn is awful

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:^)

distant gyro
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How accurate is Icy-veins?

primal crypt
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Just uninstall pawn

modern brook
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95ish

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Concepts are there

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I'm sure some details are outdated

steel mauve
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Icyveins was updated for 8.1

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And its written by the owner of this discord, and its far more accurate than wowhead

daring marlin
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ap grind is funny

ebon hound
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would you take a 20 ilvl higher ring with worse stats and loosing a socket for the extra stamina?

primal crypt
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define worse stats

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our secondaries are close

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20 ilvl is massive

ebon hound
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-150 haste + 200 crit ish

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disregarding socket

primal crypt
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swap it

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at 20 ilvl

ebon hound
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cool, ty

sweet pike
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I really love that the mines in ML bolster everything

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That's a 10/10 meme

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Really great

sick sentinel
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you dont do those packs tho

astral crystal
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Don’t activate them :^)))))

sick sentinel
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always death run

sweet pike
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Wanted to, lock used last brez on the flamethrower bitch

sick sentinel
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no meld or anything?

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anything with stealth

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or engineer brez

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oh wait you said no brez 😄

sweet pike
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I'm horde

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So no shadow

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No rogue on our run

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Holy shit what a nightmare

distant gyro
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When I play my shaman I always ALWAYS save my res for death run. lol

sweet pike
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I really dislike bolstering, let me chain pull PLEASE

distant gyro
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Bolstering isnt bad as long as people understand that things need to die close together.

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If you have a mob with higher health switch to it so it dies within close proximity to the rest of the mobs.

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That way if it gets bolstered it wont be as bad to deal with.

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You just cant single target nuke down any one mob in a trash pack otherwise it becomes a nightmare.

sweet pike
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Problem with that tho

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Is that the best dps classes have cleave built into their rotation

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And mobs have different hp

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But I appreciate what you're saying

distant gyro
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It just means that your dps need to be more mindful of what adds have more health. Most cleave is based off certain abilities. Enhancement can only cleave after using Lightning Crash, so they just ommit that from their rotation until it makes sense to use.

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And you can also range bolstering. CC adds and pull the rest away or have someone offtank an add you dont want bolstered.

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Little things like that can make a major difference.

sweet pike
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You're right, just gotta communicate more, I guess

crimson plinth
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guys quick question what traits would you recommend for m+?

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cause ive seen some of the top prot wars in m+ using x2 arc and x1crash

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was wondering if that was good

spare hinge
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I'm confused, I got hold of aggro and sometime alway aggro spriest. I was thinking that might be too much threat from spriest.

distant gyro
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Skittish makes generating threat a little more difficult.

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Just gotta be prepared to taunt in those situations.

sand egret
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Some mobs also specifically target other members. Stuff like wrench throwers, Blind Rage in FH, the Bloodswarmers in UR, etc

warped hound
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my warrior is 381 with a 345 shield, what did i do to deserve this 😦

signal plover
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U played BFA

warped hound
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someone bring back legion so i can block things properly 😢

distant gyro
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I hate that Ghuun drops that shield. 😦

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Hes such a pain to pug, and the rest of his loot sucks.

sick sentinel
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do vectis

distant gyro
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I have that shield

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I think the Ghuun one is better though, and it looks amazing.

sick sentinel
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unfortunately the stats on ghuun are good

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the stats are better on the ghuun shield than the vectis shield

primal crypt
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Unless you get a 385 socketed vectis shield

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Then you use it lol

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So unfortunate

sick sentinel
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Just do what I did

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Do a +10 and get. 385

primal crypt
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Im looking for a sinple 395 shield with socket

sick sentinel
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From weekly

primal crypt
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SINple

tacit smelt
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@primal crypt lemme catch back up to you dude :/

sick sentinel
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Well I just did a +14 KR on time, first KR above 10 where I had well over a minute left

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And I got the tank trinket

sweet pike
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Bro I had a 290 weapon for the longest time

sick sentinel
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So now I can go bomx2 and dc

sweet pike
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Did 15 arals

sick sentinel
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For true tank

sweet pike
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Finally got weapon

sick sentinel
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Lol damn

sweet pike
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Emissary kept giving me 2 handers

next ermine
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would the new 385 alchemist stone be a good alternative to blockades?

nova gale
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How is the Zek'Voz trinket in terms of dmg?

sick sentinel
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It's better than ghuuns but bottom of the list compared to the other DPS trinkets

nova gale
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Aight cheers

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Requesting Blood Mallet for prot warriors btw

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and fucking sims

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!

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REE

limber wigeon
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It's a lot of work to get it functioning

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Most prot stuff is super broken.

sick sentinel
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Also if u need Sims as a tank, u need some help

nova gale
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How come?

limber wigeon
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Tank sims can be useful

nova gale
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I mean, I'd sim to maximize my deeps for when I need to

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if I feel like I can sacrifice survivability to do more dps like why not?

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even without sacrificing it

sweet pike
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I'm gonna be the very best! :D

lusty grotto
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nods

sick sentinel
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me too

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next up

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+19

sweet kettle
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Poggers

nova gale
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OOF

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got a 19 tol dagor

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LETS GO

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Santa is late this year

hallow hamlet
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quick question, i´ve started to tank recently wiith my warrior so my q is the next: which spells can i reflect at mythic dungeons?

crimson sentinel
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Pretty sure there is a document somewhere for that

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Let me check if i can find it

nova gale
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I have no clue about that. it's so annoying to learn

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I just try and find out the hard way

crimson sentinel
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There is quite a lot you can abuse with spell reflect

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Some of it does absurd amount of damage

hallow hamlet
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i tried aswell but not one founf so far

nova gale
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I did a million dmg with spell reflect on first boss in Underrot 😄

hallow hamlet
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wut

nova gale
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4 reflects

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250k each

crimson sentinel
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Yea it's insane

nova gale
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It puts me as top dps on that fight

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too bad it doesnt show on details 😦

sick sentinel
hallow hamlet
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well, now i know about one boss to relfect him to his death

nova gale
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Can you intervene+spellreflect btw?

sick sentinel
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Yes

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Movement abilities aren't on GCD anymore

hallow hamlet
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intervene is now of the gcd

nova gale
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I mean

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does it actually work?

sick sentinel
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Yes

nova gale
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ooh

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giga

hallow hamlet
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pretty convinient to do avatar and charge with no down time

crimson sentinel
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Feels great

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Also makes it worth intervene some close party member for rage

sweet kettle
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You can intervene the shot of the fox bitch in the council fight in freehold as well

nova gale
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OOF

hallow hamlet
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i can also be reflected?

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it *

astral crystal
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weep is back monkaS

sick sentinel
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huh

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yeah

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what's wrong with that

empty sentinel
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Srry to ask, but i cant find any info on what trinkets to go after :))

cold owl
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In the pins. It's on dreamgrove website

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Right above the spell reflect list

sweet pike
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That's a good point actually, why doesn't details show spell reflect damage?

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Cuz there is actually quite a bit of stuff you can spell reflect in bfa

supple path
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I think there was a blue post that said they can't show spell reflect damage or else people would think prot warriors were overly viable.

sweet pike
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what

daring marlin
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why do you need it in details? lol

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Just go to enemy damage taken

sweet pike
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eh, that rush of dopamine into my lizard brain I get when I see myself doing damage is what keeps me going

cold owl
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Some bosses do show reflect numbers. The third in shrine and the witch pat in waycrest both show, but a lot don't register on my msbt for some reason.

sick sentinel
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just download MSBT

sweet pike
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What is MSBT?

sick sentinel
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Miks Scrolling Battle Text

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If you spell reflect a shadow bolt for example it will show on the output bar from that addon the damage you dealt when you SR it

sweet pike
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gotcha, I'll look that up for sure

daring marlin
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120k SR on lord stormsong are my favorite

sweet pike
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Still remember the time I reflected a shaman's trinket back at him in a duel in legion

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That shit was hilarious

silk mortar
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Remeber spell reflecting medivhs arcane missiles 🤤

sick sentinel
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Is first boss underrot spell cast still on tank or on random targets now

sweet pike
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tank iirc

sick sentinel
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Always tank

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nvm

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its on whoever has aggro

sweet pike
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ye, so tank

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hopefully

sick sentinel
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I mean

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I will let a the first cast from blood mirror hit someone else

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but dont say anything

sweet pike
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LMAO

sick sentinel
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Sometimes you gotta make sure ur group is awake

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Nothing wrong with that

silk mortar
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But if you dont taunt arent you the one who's not "awake" 🤔

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What if they realise what you've done

sick sentinel
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Thats the best part

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You gotta time it right

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The murder of one's own group members is a joy to behold

silk mortar
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Well i cant deny that

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Just wish i could do that and get away with it

sick sentinel
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Because nobody is putting a UR above a 14 rn, imma play my dusty shaman

chilly brook
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Oddly enough I’ve been enjoying the shaman quite a bit

silk mortar
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Fun damage wise or just fun :?

mystic fog
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Hey guys! I need some tips for my prot. What's the best secendary stat? Allways haste? right now i have 13.97% (646) Crit, 19.16% (1303) Haste without ItF talent, 7.38/3.69 (627) Versa, 26,75% (708) Mastery. What should i change for raids and m+? should i go for as many as possble haste and versa/mastery? weapon and rings enchant also? or there is point where haste is no so important and othere stats are better?

warm plinth
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Ilevel is king and our secondaries are all very close together. Haste is still the best, but you should not attempt to get it over the expense of ilevel. There is no point where haste becomes less important, at least not that we can hit.

sick sentinel
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Generally speaking, you want to go for haste

warm plinth
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You can go to the stat priority section of the guide for more information, but that's the gist of it.

daring marlin
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item level is your god

sick sentinel
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but it aint a secondary

mystic fog
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ok, thanks guys 😉

sick sentinel
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Just don't go crit

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👌🏾

mystic fog
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i have some crit items that were huge ilvl upgrade :/

daring marlin
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then wear them

sick sentinel
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Use them

warm plinth
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Please do not worry about secondaries. Seriously. Unless they are identical ilevel, ignore secondaries completely.

sick sentinel
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Ilvl over anything

warm plinth
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Crit is not a bad stat. It's the worst by a tiny margin, but it's not bad.

wispy sparrow
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how would ya'll rate sockets? ilvl still?

sick sentinel
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depending on the gear its on

wispy sparrow
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anything aside from rings/trinkets

warm plinth
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Depends on the slot. A socket in a ring is worth like 20 ilevel

sick sentinel
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I believe its 5-10 ilvls

warm plinth
wispy sparrow
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dont gotta take into account stamina im assuming?

sick sentinel
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Not for us no

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since we are not other tanks, we depend more on strength

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because of our vanguard

warm plinth
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I wouldn't in that situation. ilevel is more for str and more total secondaries than stamina. Stamina is still nice but it's not something we're like omg I need it

sick sentinel
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I would only trade the jump(if no socket) if its about 15+ ilvls

wispy sparrow
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awesome thank you

mystic fog
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oh one more, which trinkets are the best? i use right now 385 alchemy and 355 world boss with haste on use

warm plinth
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Those are both pretty good. Do you have any others?

mystic fog
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no

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i'm going to farm atal for trinket

warm plinth
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Just wanted to make sure you didn't have some better ones tucked away. Those aren't bad but there are better ones.

wispy sparrow
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can anyone here help me out if i link a couple rings

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there's a couple with sockets and some without so im not too sure which are the best to use

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i got the 385 haste/vers and 370 haste/mastery w/socket on right now

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not sure if the high ilvl ones with sockets are worth using over either of my current ones

oblique garnet
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385 both imo

wispy sparrow
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even use the 385 without socket?

nova gale
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How high would you guys value leech?

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Like I got a 375 ring with socket which would replace my 380 haste/mastery or 370 haste/vers + leech.

sweet pike
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Laughs in bloodsport

warm plinth
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I would easily replace the 370 haste/vers+leech with the 375+socket ring

chilly brook
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I'd use both 385's

warm plinth
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That was directed at @nova gale btw, not jiewei

chilly brook
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Other realistic option imo is Seal of the Regal Loa w/the 380 with socket

warm plinth
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@wispy sparrow Use the 385 with socket and 380 with socket

chilly brook
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^

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Probably the best option tbh

wispy sparrow
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awesome thank you! @warm plinth @chilly brook

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also would ya'll use a 390 rezan or a 385 syringe w/socket, other slot is occupied by jes' howler

narrow nest
hasty quest
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Hey guys, any of you got some aggro issues with DH dps in grp?

sweet pike
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Can happen sometimes, that's why on skittish weeks it's really good to have a hunter or rogue for misdirect/Tricks of the trade

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Especially if the DH is running fel barrage instead of trail of ruin, think it's like 5th row

hasty quest
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How can you deal with it withou Hunter or Rogue mate?

sweet pike
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Try to line up avatar with big packs

warm plinth
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Tell the dh to settle the fuck down for a second

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DH have massive AoE burst; they should know better than to just go ham immediately on skittish week

sweet pike
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Ye, alternatively ask for 3 seconds per pack to establish threat

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They do have a lot of frontloaded dps in their kit

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For example, I've been asking for 3 seconds on bug pulls like the one before priestess in atal

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Let's me get 2 tclaps in, at which point threat isn't going anywhere

hasty quest
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good ideas guys

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anyhow, i want to fix my dps

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i have seen lots of ProWarrior running with Fathom Deck in M+

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and different trait

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DPS traits mainly

vocal nimbus
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2xBoM and 1 DC is probably the best setup

royal willow
merry cave
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Servent splitter is pretty bad

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I'd use the one with stats

sick sentinel
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Stats

warm plinth
#

I third that.

sick sentinel
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@nova gale ALWAYS wear the socketed one, it's too many stats to pass up

royal willow
#

Yea, that is what I was thinking. I just was asking around incase I was wrong

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thanks bruvs

sick sentinel
#

And I have played wIth a "leech memes" build where I dropped 5 ilvls for leech and I happened to have a 390 bloodsport and had like 6,5% leech and it was negligible

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@hasty quest fathoms should beat on dps any 380 trinket, maybe some 385s as well

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The alchemy trinket is really good, as well as rezan's or the knot from the new world boss

daring marlin
#

HELLO FRIENDS

hasty quest
#

@sick sentinel tyvm for your hint

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ill try fanthom

sick sentinel
#

got my ghuun 1h

astral crystal
#

the hwhat

sick sentinel
#

was using 365 motherlode 1h

jade socket
#

That’s an agi weapon

vocal nimbus
#

Sounds like 🎣

oblique garnet
#

Oh 18 tol dagor this is a good day

sick sentinel
#

i take what i can get

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my other wep didn't have mainstat either

warm plinth
#

Two people, same ilevel, one gets 370 equipment cache from incursion, other person gets 355. Wut.

#

Stupid indie company, fix your broken shit.

stone crag
#

that does have main stat

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it's just an int weapon

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🤔

#

same with lancet, it's primary agi

#
Wowhead

This blue one-handed mace has an item level of 310. It is looted from Mogul Razdunk. In the One-Handed Maces category. Added in World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth.

oblique garnet
#

FML +2 18 TD into 20 KR

oblique garnet
#

@primal crypt You done kr this week?

gentle jewel
#

hows this for prot?

primal crypt
#

I think so? @oblique garnet

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I can't remember

#

why what's up

oblique garnet
#

got a 20 kr that i have to do so i can atleast get a 19 key for next week

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im scared

primal crypt
#

NAHHHHHHHHHHH

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Get some trees

#

you be aiteeee

warm plinth
#

@gentle jewel Pretty good. Solid DPS increase, moreso in AoE.

merry cave
#

KR is a shadow of its former self at least

#

Although Zul without a monk heals as war is 0 fun

oblique garnet
#

On fortified

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Oh shit

#

I didnt even think about that

merry cave
#

Hahaha

oblique garnet
#

Oh dear lord

merry cave
#

Always use the spud Strat if your not trying to time it and kite back to 3rd boss room 😅

#

Always could*

oblique garnet
#

Probably not gonna time it

#

Its 20 and not tyrannical so just gonna take it chill

wind steppe
#

noob prot here. How long is your average CD in m+ with Anger M?

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on SW

oblique garnet
#

@wind steppe i dont really pay attention to sw cd but avatar is generally 40-50seconds

willow fractal
#

best weapon enchant for prot?

#

icy says quick nav haste enchant that correct?

warm plinth
#

Yes.

chilly brook
#

@wind steppe short enough that you should use it to cover gaps in shield block

#

You’re probably looking at around a 2 minute CD on SW

#

It has the potential to be pretty low tbh in m+ with all the mobs

oblique garnet
#

Where are all the prot bois who stream

hot locust
#

At work ;__;

sick sentinel
#

@stone crag then it doesnt have prim stat

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mainstat -> str

#

is what I meant

#

anyone have any videos of +10 atal'dazar as prot?

#

I'm super spooked to do it

#

also how important is strength, really?

hot locust
#

For the most part pretty important

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would make a lower ilvl wep worth for sure over one that didnt have it

sick sentinel
#

I don't have anything with str

#

but I have the 1h fist wep from m ghuun

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replaced my other str-less wep

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so wep dps is cool

hot locust
#

thats definitely better than a caster weapon

sick sentinel
#

for sure

#

plus it looks cool

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so clout

hot locust
#

Also @sick sentinel I did stream an AD yesterday if you skip to like an hour or so in.

#

Pretty easy key all things considered this week.

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we scuffed it up real good and still timed it.

sick sentinel
#

i fucked up underrot at like the first pull

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holy

hot locust
#

How you manage than one?

sick sentinel
#

: (

#

I don't wanna talk about it 😭

#

the only dungeon I know is kings' rest

hot locust
#

Pull a bunch of little dudes with the warmother?

sick sentinel
#

well like

#

I really have no clue what to pull

#

everything is everywhere

#

it's super fucky

#

do you pull ticks at all?

oblique garnet
#

Weep can you teach me how to do kr?

sick sentinel
#

uh

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why

oblique garnet
#

because its by far my worst dungeon

main vault
#

He cant even wear a Str weapon

sick sentinel
#

I have no doubt you can do it better than I can

main vault
#

You really wanna go down that path?

oblique garnet
#

True true

sick sentinel
#

what do you mean can't

#

I just don't have one

#

idk

#

ive only done a 12 kr

oblique garnet
#

ah

#

cant cheese the bridge with boomkin this time so it will be bit trickier

#

and i dont want to know what zul can do to me

sick sentinel
#

zul will fuck you up

oblique garnet
#

yeah

#

im counting on it

inner onyx
#

anyone have any advice, or youtube videos/guides that could help me get better at tanking 10+ keys

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i didnt tank much in 8.0 cause prot seemed hopeless but i am fairly geared and want to get better at tanking keys but i don't know where to start and feel every time i try i make a lot of mistakes

#

maybe even an educational prot warrior streamer you like?

sick sentinel
#

i would watch you, @hot locust , but twitch doesn't like my pc

oblique garnet
#

lala is educational

sick sentinel
#

so I can't

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unless your stuff is on youtube, I cannot use your information

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😦

jade socket
#

prot lala and darkee all stream keys

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mainly lala and sense

inner onyx
#

do they explain their mindset at all

oblique garnet
#

I liked that ML key you did the other day 😉

hot locust
#

LOL

oblique garnet
#

The most scuffed DR ever XD

inner onyx
#

i know the basics but feel i coudl use my cooldowns more efficiently

#

can i get a link to stream Lala?

jade socket
#

im sure lala would be open to explaining things on stream

sick sentinel
#

idk

jade socket
#

its on his discord profile

sick sentinel
#

I'm gonna try a +8 atal

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also

#

I keep getting autodeclined, has this happened to anyone else?

inner onyx
#

thanks guys

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prob your IO?

sick sentinel
#

Every single group auto-declines like someone in my group doesn't have the necessary ilvl

#

nah

#

it's a straight auto

inner onyx
#

no clue

sick sentinel
#

my io is 939

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reset all instances and I'm not getting autodeclined

hot locust
#

@oblique garnet I end up with some pretty scuffed shit in my keys it's funny as hell.

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Finally starting to get higher and higher though, happy with where I'm at since I didnt do anything besides 10's and 11's until 8.1 because I was auto-piloting the game and doing other stuff.

jade socket
#

I blame @potent zephyr

hot locust
#

I blame OC :^)

sick sentinel
#

2x385 archive

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or or 1x385 archive 1x 390 BfI

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given that I have DC no matter what

hot locust
#

double archive for m+

sick sentinel
#

thank u dad

potent zephyr
stone crag
#

🤔

hot locust
#

🤔

shut summit
sick sentinel
#

i 2chested a +9 atal

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\o/

oblique garnet
#

@hot locust Does your scuffed include 700m hp spotter?

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Ngl didnt expect bunch of pugs to be able to play with the spotter

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We used the first spotter throughout the entire dungeon

hot locust
#

Yeah use the fuck out of spotter

sick sentinel
#

what's spotter

potent anvil
#

you're suppose to keep the spotter within kill range as you bolster it so you can actually kill it when things go south 🤔 but yeah, the spotter pretty much does siege for you.

oblique garnet
#

Eh we didnt really need to kill it

sick sentinel
#

is it undead

#

or can priest mc

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confused :X

oblique garnet
#

it was basically killing everything for us

#

Shame that it also killed the cannon repairman at last boss lul

sick sentinel
#

pls

#

fill me in

potent anvil
#

spotter is the npc in siege of boralus that puts the artillery debuff on a player that sends cannon balls down and does damage to players and enemies alike

sick sentinel
#

like in the tunnel-things

potent anvil
#

tunnel 🤔
is that an alliance thing?

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for siege, i dunno

sick sentinel
#

i mean the walkways

#

they're kinda like tunnels

#

just not at all

#

I use weird words to describe what I'm picturing in my head when the real words escape me

potent anvil
#

@oblique garnet there's a method to use the spotter on the last boss with reduced risk of killing the repairman. the tentacles actually have a big hitbox so you can set off artillery a decent amount away

oblique garnet
#

yeah i know but it was with pugs

#

was only a 12

#

wanted to see how siege was this week

potent anvil
#

honestly you dont have to play with the spotter at all up until 20+ imo. timed an 18 just doing it normally lol

oblique garnet
#

yeah i normally dont play with the spotter at all

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but they wanted to do it

#

Single most terrifying thing in the game the spotter hit 190k through block

potent anvil
#

yeah, normally when ppl invite me to tank for them i just go with my basic routes and not do any fancy tricks. prot warrior dps is no joke so you end up being able to just bully the dungeon

oblique garnet
#

yeah its alot safer to just do that

#

but yeah if you use the spotter youre basically flying through the entire dungeon its ridiculous

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especially this week

potent anvil
#

yeah, i tried it in a medium-ish key and we shrouded after 2nd boss, bolster the spotter and bring it back to banana town to nuke it and then all the way to last boss or die to it after third if you dont want to deal with it.

oblique garnet
#

yeah thats one way to do it

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We took the first spotter right after first boss and kept it as a pet all the way to last

potent anvil
#

could do it that way for sure. i wanted to shroud so had to drop combat. we also skipped everything in the beginning so we had to kill banana town pretty much

oblique garnet
#

it got really scary in bananatown when you got stunned and saw that the artillery was about to drop on you

signal plover
#

Do we has a new golden boi?

potent anvil
#

just dont get stunned lol. but yeah its pretty scary

#

new golden boi 🤔

oblique garnet
#

Stormforged

sick sentinel
#

no

#

we dont

#

deswind has been sormforged

sick sentinel
#

timedmy first +10 woo

oblique garnet
#

Yay weep

#

You did it

sick sentinel
#

no atal shield

#

😭

#

@oblique garnet u should come with me

oblique garnet
#

Youre na?

sick sentinel
#

ya

zinc mauve
#

when ur healer abandons you to join a mythic raider guild

sick sentinel
#

just be me

#

8/8 and then learn keys

zinc mauve
#

i know keys

sick sentinel
#

teach me keys

zinc mauve
#

they want me to play something other than prot warrior but i cant abandon prot warrior

#

prot warrior is my mistress ;-;

warm plinth
#

Does she let you do butt stuff?

zinc mauve
#

no

#

but thats aside the point

sick sentinel
#

i did 10k dps overall

#

woo

zinc mauve
#

what a gamer

sick sentinel
#

as fury i usually do like

#

15

warm plinth
#

What ilevel does 8/8 get you weep?

sick sentinel
#

384

warm plinth
#

Nice

sick sentinel
#

my ww friend gave me the 385 agil wep

oblique garnet
#

@zinc mauve your group is stupid if they are forcing you to play something other than prot atm

sick sentinel
#

can i do a 12 atal

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with a 355 shield :X

oblique garnet
#

Yes

sick sentinel
#

ok

#

i'm gonna

#

delisted

oblique garnet
#

Lul

sick sentinel
#

i rly need a shield

#

and a mythic wep

oblique garnet
#

Go do hc

#

Uldir

#

Or spam m+ that drop a shield

sick sentinel
#

im doin heroic ghuun

sick sentinel
#

@oblique garnet so spooky

#

i wanna do another kings rest

#

KR is fun

warm plinth
#

Eyyyy, broke world 200k

sick sentinel
#

monkaS]

#

im climbin bro

warm plinth
#

Get that top 100 before the end of the season

sick sentinel
#

teach me dungeons

warm plinth
#

Believe it or not, you have a much better grasp of dungeons than I do. I've literally done like two or three heroic dungeons and a couple normals. I haven't even done every dungeon yet, and haven't done any on Mythic.

sick sentinel
#

o wow

#

i believe in u

warm plinth
#

I just came back for BfA like...2 months ago and have basically just been leveling toons

sick sentinel
#

i started playing warr in bfa

#

ive taken like 4 weeks off of war total for the whole exp i think

#

maybe 5 or 6

#

I deleted my character so that was a forced 15 days

warm plinth
#

Why did you delete your character?

sick sentinel
#

manic breakdown

warm plinth
#

You know there's an "undo deleted character" button on the character select screen right?

sick sentinel
#

I undeleted another character on purpose to lock myself out

#

and you can only undelete 1 character every 15 days

warm plinth
#

Oh

oblique garnet
#

Weep cmon youre 8/8 mythic

#

Even if you didnt do anything other than the weekly +10 you should still be above 1k

#

Unless you somehow never got certain keys

sick sentinel
#

2chested a +10

#

\:D/

#

@oblique garnet I just didnt do a few above a 9

#

@fierce jackal knows about this

#

that TD alone would put me over 1k

#

if it were any good

#

just as a +10

#

maybe 999

#

now I gotta get rid ofmy 360 DC 😦

#

and get a weapon with strength

warm plinth
#

Wow you just got that shield?

sick sentinel
#

yep

warm plinth
#

Not bad at all!

sick sentinel
#

i was using 355 vector deflector to run that dungeon

#

:x

warm plinth
#

Congrats

sick sentinel
#

tyty

sick sentinel
#

Now you just need a weapon

#

Yeah I saw that

#

You still need a weapon

#

yeah 😦

#

rng manip

#

@hot locust i trust u

#

so

#

the 143 str is worth it right

#

haste and str seem to agree wihth me

#

that parry

warm plinth
#

I would absolutely use the 370

sick sentinel
#

yea

#

im still gonna tmog the 385 over it tho

#

because mythic ghuun clout

warm plinth
#

You're losing like 7 secondaries for 143 str and some weapon damage basically

#

I worded that backwards but you know what I meant

sick sentinel
#

ye

#

i guess?

#

i'm using the 370 because it has str

#

and str = parry

warm plinth
#

You're losing 7 secondaries and some weapon damage for 143 str*

sick sentinel
#

i'm losing garbo secondaries

#

for a good secondary and primstat

warm plinth
#

Yeah

#

Str = armor as well.

sick sentinel
#

imagine literally getting what you want

#

amazing

warm plinth
#

Right after someone tells you you need it too 😂

sick sentinel
#

;p

#

it's my reward for getting nothing from ghuun

warm plinth
#

Kage: "You need a weapon"
weep: "Okay" loots weapon

sick sentinel
#

might replace fathoms with this

#

and macro it to avatar

warm plinth
#

I was about to suggest trinket swapping when it's on CD but then I remembered that Blizzard doesn't like fun and you can't swap gear in M+ anymore.

sick sentinel
#

😦

warm plinth
#

It's only 1 min CD anyway so probably not worth it

sick sentinel
#

tru

hot locust
#

@sick sentinel sorry for late response but yes the strength is definitely worth

sick sentinel
#

tyty

#

what else does str do

#

outside of parry

hot locust
#

AP

warm plinth
#

Boom. Stormforged Approved (tm)

sick sentinel
#

I suppose ye

#

I thought it did something else

warm plinth
#

And armor

sick sentinel
#

does str rly increase armor

#

or did u make that one up

warm plinth
#

Vanguard increases armor based on your str.

#

It's in your spellbook.

sick sentinel
#

i dont know what vanguard is

#

now i do

warm plinth
#

It's a prot warrior thing. You wouldn't have heard of it.

sick sentinel
#

nh

#

i rerolled the day before 8.1

warm plinth
#

Yeah it increases your stam by a flat percentage** and gives you like 65% of your str as armor (can't remember what they changed it to in 8.1)

sick sentinel
#

60

warm plinth
#

Now you're teaching me /happytears

sick sentinel
#

feelsgood

smoky basin
#

@weep keys are easy, just gotta learn how to pull each dungeon and be liberal with big CDs, maximizing your and your group's damage while still being safe

#

With your ilvl you should be able to do 16+ most weeks without survival issues.

sick sentinel
#

I end up taking lots of dmg in +10s sometimes

#

but I wonder if that's not the healer

#

@smoky basin

wary badger
#

having an issue

#

I got clapped in KR 14

sick sentinel
#

where

wary badger
#

mobs after u hit the gong

#

took 74k to the face from the witchdoctor

#

382 ilvl and i got my ass handed to me

#

rip

sick sentinel
#

shield block up?

#

i mean obviously but like

wary badger
#

melee wasnt the issue

sick sentinel
#

i gotta ask

wary badger
#

magic damage

sick sentinel
#

ah

#

is it spell reflectable

#

check the guide

wary badger
#

it is

sick sentinel
#

do that and int tbh

#

what cast hit you?

wary badger
#

its the mob that does shadowbolt volley

#

and a shadow bolt

#

every 3 seconds

sick sentinel
#

shadow bolt volley should never get a cast off

#

that should always be priority int

wary badger
#

i inted that

sick sentinel
#

everyone should int it

wary badger
#

but got trucked by its single target spell cast

sick sentinel
#

ah

#

uh

#

I got nothin'

wary badger
#

frustrating

#

my 379 dk can run a 14 just fine

#

but my warr got bodied

jade socket
#

You typically just have one person always have their kick for volley while others call their kicks for chills

#

Should be able to cover quite a bit and you can sr one where you won’t have a kick

#

Not really gonna happen in pugs though if that was the case

wary badger
#

had hpal for healer

#

no kicks

#

well

#

3 kicks

jade socket
#

As long as people don’t overlap that’s still quite a bit

wary badger
#

shrug

#

i feel bad tho

#

had to drop the key 1 lvl

#

and swap toons

#

should i be running haste/vers or haste mastery

#

if ilvl is the same

sick sentinel
#

haste mast

golden acorn
#

Hello, trinkets wise DMB is still king?

astral crystal
#

If you have nothing higher sure

#

In terms of ilvl that is

golden acorn
#

Ah, so if i have like 390/370 dps trinkets

astral crystal
#

Probably safe to switch unless you’re having survivability problems and really really need the decks healing

#

Which shouldn’t be likely

sick sentinel
#

guys I checked my bank and I saw that I had banked a 385 chest with reinforced plating and it now has BoM

#

the memes are calling me

#

replace my 375 DC for a third 390 bom

sweet kettle
#

BoM is proper poggers

#

I know it's shit but it's so good to play with

sick sentinel
#

it's not shit for m+

#

it is bad for raids

#

but really really good in m+

#

(my DC piece is 375 with str in numbers and vamp speed btw)

silk mortar
#

Do it

#

And report back to us

#

;?)

sick sentinel
#

I explained the situation to my healer

#

and he told me to do it

silk mortar
#

You better do it

#

Do what your healer says

#

DC crap anyways

astral crystal
#

enjoy bootyclapping into infinity

sick sentinel
#

1635 mastery when I press avatar

#

Just by BoM

astral crystal
#

god dayum

#

get the ivus trinket

#

for massive memeing

#

b i g c r i t s

silk mortar
#

🤤

old zephyr
#

370 jess + avoid or 370 rean + socket

#

or 385 alch stone?

sick sentinel
#

I am using 385 alch trinket and 385 ivus trinket

#

And orc racial

#

@old zephyr alch stone is really good

#

1ppm

old zephyr
#

I have to pick 2 of the 3

wooden sun
#

is there any way to track how much you've blocked

final mist
#

Logs.

wooden sun
#

nothing in game via addons or anything?

final mist
#

Something like Details might, I don't recall. Logs will give you better overall details and numbers anyways.

wooden sun
#

yeah 100%, just tryna see how much damage i blocked over the course of a dungeon :))

warped hound
#

is the knot trinket from the world boss half decent?

cold owl
#

I hear shield maiden addon tracks blocks and absorbs

#

Haven't tested it or anything.

keen galleon
#

I just dropped DC for a 40 ilevel increase on helm and overall am still iffy on it being worth it tbh.

#

Losing DC in dungeons sucks.

timber nest
#

DC is good but I don’t think it’s worth losing 40 ilevels of Stan/star

sick sentinel
#

Dc is worth 30 Ilvl now, so the drop off it is fine

primal crypt
#

I FOUND YOU

sick sentinel
#

@old zephyr alch stone+rezan

primal crypt
#

^

ember arrow
#

Ok

#

My contribution is finished

astral crystal
#

would suggest baleting that @primal crypt

#

👀

primal crypt
#

weep isn't awake yet 😦

astral crystal
#

anyone know if UPS processes delivery reschedule during the weekend

#

or do i have to wait til monday for it to go through

#

#protthings

lilac sleet
#

Why does first boss in UR scale so much into 15+ keys

#

with blood bolt

sick sentinel
#

Because

#

You are supposed to not let her cast

signal plover
#

Or reflect that bad boi

sick sentinel
#

Finally broke past the 1.5k .io mark

#

all dungeons are now +14, just beat a 16 WM and now doing 17 AD

#

Hopefully it goes as smooth as my WM did

median wigeon
#

Damn prot warrior has world first Kings rest ? Feelsgood

astral crystal
#

wut

median wigeon
#

Herudra timed a +20 a little faster than the rest

sick sentinel
#

My key did not go as smooth

#

@median wigeon this week?

drowsy relic
#

Does herudra stream?

median wigeon
#

Looks like he did it 2 hours ago according to raider io

drowsy relic
#

Yeah that’s insane

spare hinge
#

is Aggro Radius increased this expansion than old one?

hot locust
#

wat

sick sentinel
#

what

steel mauve
#

probably talking about proxy aggro

#

how close to a mob you can get before it pulls

spare hinge
#

was testing and it seem increased than before

#

yea about how close to a mob

hot locust
#

it depends on the mob in a lot of cases, always has.

tawny sphinx
#

There are more prot warriors over 2k+ r.io than dh and guardian, and only 3 more paladins than prot warri :3

#

prot warri gets stronger again

sick sentinel
#

I would not look past 1.7k as an indicator

#

Most times they are premade groups

tawny sphinx
#

im 1.8, i dont do premade except heal

sick sentinel
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My point still stands

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That is not a full premade, but you have 2 of the bigger pieces to attract pugs

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Also most people won't be pugging +18 keys with randos

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17's MAYBE

cobalt trellis
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same ring haste/mastery -> 370 with socket (40 haste) and one 380 with life leech (mainly doing m+ as prot)

sick sentinel
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socket

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imo

cobalt trellis
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ok so ill stay with my current setup for now... we'll all get new items in the new season

sick sentinel
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leech is a nice added bonus and the stamina is nice but the haste should come through

sick sentinel
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God fuck ML this week

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I cant pull like an idiot because of bolster

hollow thorn
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Try Siege

strong forum
warm plinth
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@strong forum Sexy shield!

strong forum
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306 fucking wipes

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finally fucking done with that shit boss

rocky ledge
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@wooden sun not sure if anyone answered you but Details! Can at least show block uptime by using the Buff Uptime. Add your SB % and you LS % to see how well you are doing. I’m getting 60-65% for a dungeon while running 12-15 keys.

warm plinth
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💪 Done in more ways than one too, because you don't even need loot lol.

plain ice
sick sentinel
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Whats ur haste like?

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with the 390's

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and no itf

plain ice
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checking

warm plinth
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Ritual Binder's Ring + 395 or 390+395.

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Close enough that it wouldn't matter for those combos imo.

fair sky
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What gems do prot warriors use?

astral crystal
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haste