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lusty grotto
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that's not insane by any means

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fathoms is still a shitload of dps

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yikes no tanks/healers biting for 8 TD

signal plover
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No one biting the D eh?

oblique garnet
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I think i need to find new people to push keys my group is way too inconsistent atm

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Its been 2 weeks and havent gained any io

lusty grotto
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yikes an azralon DH and a Rshaman

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and they are chatty catties

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not sure if timing this

oblique garnet
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Cmon im sure they are fine

lusty grotto
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lol

oblique garnet
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Have faith

lusty grotto
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yikes this chat lol

oblique garnet
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Ye xD

lusty grotto
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ROFL

ember arrow
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epic bruh moment

lusty grotto
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azralon dude has a problem with area52 peoples

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hahaha

bleak vigil
grizzled sleet
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is prot back?

lusty grotto
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it was never gone

sand egret
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faint wind passes
a soft whisper is heard
...viable...

junior ivy
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im buyin the stupid mount

lusty grotto
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viable

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what mount

warm plinth
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Hivemind

sand egret
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hive methinks

lusty grotto
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but why

astral crystal
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remember weep?

sand egret
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cuz its cool

lusty grotto
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F weep

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F

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but why buy it

sand egret
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cuz ya aint got time and you got the gold?

astral crystal
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how much is it being sold for?

lusty grotto
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i mean 2 of the monocles are super easy to get

sand egret
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growing tomatoes is too

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doesnt change the fact that is rather go to the store

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😃

lusty grotto
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the other 2... vashjir takes a bit, and halls of origination just fucking blows

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besides if you buy it you won't be attuned to your buddies for the sweet speed boost

sick sentinel
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I genuinely enjoyed halls of origination

lusty grotto
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i didn't

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fuck that

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never doing that one again

sick sentinel
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did you that with the addon? because I didn't

lusty grotto
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i did

sick sentinel
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I did it while my buddies were getting the other 3

lusty grotto
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but the addon just took me a fuckton of time to fill in

sick sentinel
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I just solved it like a puzzle and it was fun

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the addon just makes it tedious

lusty grotto
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dude it's gigantic

sick sentinel
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like, how long did it take you?

lusty grotto
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no lie, like 2-3 hours

sick sentinel
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dude I did it in 52 minutes

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just doing the puzzle normally

lusty grotto
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yeah well fuck the addon

sick sentinel
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it's less hard than you originally think

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because the pieces start matching together

lusty grotto
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i had to correct it like 6 times

sick sentinel
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and it starts making sense

oblique garnet
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@junior ivy you got the mount yet

junior ivy
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yes

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just got it

oblique garnet
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How much did it cost

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@junior ivy

junior ivy
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100k

oblique garnet
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Oh wow

lusty grotto
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you cant mount anyone

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unless it is people from that group

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so thats kinda useless

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you shouldn't have bought it

thorn mango
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i wouldnt say useless,it all depends on what your intent is

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though at the same time,u cant really use it in certain dungeons too lol

warm plinth
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Did they hotfix it or something? People were saying you didn't even need to have the mount to mount others, but you didn't get the speed boost.

lusty grotto
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the whole point of the mount is the speed boost and that comes from having people mount on it

junior ivy
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idc enough, i dont even play anymore

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lol

oblique garnet
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Why not

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Warrior is even more fun to play than before

junior ivy
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just no time

thorn mango
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wait,you got the hivemind but dont play wow??? isnt that contridiciting yourself

junior ivy
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its first time i logged on in over a month

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just had to have it

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but now im going back to not playing

oblique garnet
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Think of all the fun content

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You can have

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@junior ivy just do it, everyone does it ! Take a hit you know you want to

lusty grotto
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yikes just ran the typical pug of the day on a shrine7

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group breaks at 2nd boss

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turns out this bdk didn't know what he was doing

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what a surprise

oblique garnet
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We tried to do 16 shrine without soothe

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It wasnt fun

lusty grotto
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finally fixed the streamer shit on my name

primal crypt
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I think I like my alche trinket

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feels decent

lusty grotto
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yamo

primal crypt
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yas?

rough egret
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cool Fireblood can remove Necrotic

lusty grotto
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old news young one

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@primal crypt has the maximum number of friends lol

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yikes

primal crypt
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oh shit

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one sec

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let me clear @lusty grotto

astral crystal
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wait what did happen to weep

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catfriend is back, weep disappeared

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really makes me skyhold

primal crypt
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weep = catfriend

signal plover
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Big brain theory

quiet crane
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Man.. really need a dwarf for those sweet little racials

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But ally tho

warm plinth
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At least warriors are mobile tanks.

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You could be a horde DK D:

quiet crane
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yucky DK

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my least favourable tank

warm plinth
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I think I like them all about the same tbh.

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As far as gameplay goes anyway

quiet crane
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mines brewmaster and prot warrs by quite a margin

warm plinth
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They all have their pros and cons for me.

drowsy relic
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wow warriors are soo strong this week

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such a huge push compared to last week

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with our 2 intercepts and leap on low cd

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idk we're probs one of the best for this week

wide girder
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And food for slowing enemies

drowsy relic
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wtf i always thought tank had to dodge the cleaves, but you can just tank it on a prot warrior

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made the fight soo much easier

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on shrine second boss

vocal nimbus
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you should dodge anyways

drowsy relic
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nah it doesnt do any damage

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with SB up

vocal nimbus
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you should get used to dodge if you intend to push high keys

drowsy relic
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hmm probably

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shrine is a tough key this week tho, soo tight on time

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with no deaths and big pulls we were only 40 seconds under

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but yeah running ravager made a huge difference

jade socket
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What

amber siren
drowsy relic
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nah didnt need to kite I could just pump dps

jade socket
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I’m scared for you

waxen cradle
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Ravager makes me rage in real life so I feel more Warrior like 😃

drowsy relic
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yeah im not sure if I want to run 1223322 or go with 1223333 on my 18 tol

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since trash dies pretty fast i want to get as much ST as possible on bosses

jade socket
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Always bv and am

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Ravager is actually useless

eager tartan
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Lol ravager

waxen cradle
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Yeah I would not run Ravager if it was the only talent in the row

drowsy relic
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nah i dont have a monk so i find it nice to keep stacks lower in tol since the rooms are smaller

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and maybe running devastator to increase my ST on bosses

jade socket
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Running anything but the standard build in any scenario is gimping yourself

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You can maybe,maybe argue for a singular talent change in an extreme fringe scenario

sick sentinel
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guys he is a known troller

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don't mind him

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he has been arguing for ravager the whole week

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because he saw 2 koreans run it

drowsy relic
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idk its working in my keys too

eager tartan
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The ravager revolution

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Arise ravagers of Azeroth

drowsy relic
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its just for this week, i usually run the standard build

sick sentinel
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have you considered getting a boomkin?

eager tartan
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I get the point of parrying some necrotic

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But still

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Why not just jump

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Wait a few seconds

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And then back again to thunderclap

sick sentinel
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tank to 30stacks, drop trees, tank to 30 stacks again and then leap out

eager tartan
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Hell Ill argue is even more dps ffs

sick sentinel
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it IS more dps, that's the point

jade socket
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There is no argument to made for taking ravager atm

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It is probably the biggest trap talent in the game

sick sentinel
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doing less damage than a revenge over 6 seconds and losing AM is ridiculous

drowsy relic
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hmm i might run heavy repercussions then for the SB uptime

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since theres not much magic damage in tol

hot locust
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Or just run AM

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Since... you know... it's the only viable talent on that row.

jade socket
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I gave you the benefit of the doubt because some people ask questions in here sometimes that are quite odd, but please don’t troll

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Not the channel or place for it

steady fiber
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Hi, its hard and worth a while to do quest for 25 kills ?

mental scarab
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Pffff reroll dark iron and racial that necrotic😎BHOOOOM DPS GAINS

little hawk
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anyone has a working weakaura for IP? the one in the pins doesnt work. Cant move the absorb value outside of the icon.

pine wadi
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For M+ Callous Reprisal or Archive ?

drowsy relic
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nah wasnt trolling, im just experimenting with talents to see how it works fully

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can only learn soo much from a guide so i want to understand exactly why im making my choices

nova gale
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Just play what you find works for you.. I remember back in the beginning of ToS when I was preaching to play ravager and CoF (for arms) and everyone was bashing me like crazy for that. In the end Ravager+CoF was meta so, who knows?

prisma viper
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Archives*

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Ok, thanks

waxen cradle
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try and get a heroic version and its a no brainer

prisma viper
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Yeah, coined Mother the last 5 times on heroic, no luck

waxen cradle
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yeah thats just rng hating ya I have a friend that took forever to get a M one

sick sentinel
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@prisma viper 375, no thinking about it

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you always go for item level

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dude if you are suggesting archive you are not even thinking about it

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going from 360 to 375 is like 160 str

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and the archive gives 200 str

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and AV is useless in uldir

ember arrow
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Ravager dude made me laugh

sick sentinel
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or almost useless

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so you are giving up literally 40 str for 160 stamina, and a lot of damage

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did I read that wrong?

prisma viper
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@waxen cradle Yeah, I got DC on shoulders and BoM on chest, both 390

waxen cradle
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I suggested he get a 370 gridrunner not go lower item level to be exact

sick sentinel
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wait I might be retarded

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sorry

prisma viper
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Its just 60 str difference 360 to 375 though

sick sentinel
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oh no I am not retarted

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dude

prisma viper
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or 75

sick sentinel
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it is a 75 str and 160stam

waxen cradle
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Definitely go higher item level regardless

prisma viper
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Yeah, ok

sick sentinel
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the answer should not be " get a HC mother helm" , the guy asked you which one of the 2 he will use

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and he should use the higher item level one

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end of story

prisma viper
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But not go up to 390 head without Array right?

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700 haste lost

waxen cradle
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Well to be exact use the one that is 375 for now and when he can get a HC Mother helm use that which is technically what I said

sick sentinel
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you do not lose array

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and you do not lose DC

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as long as you have DC and Reorg array, you ALWAYS go for item level

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you only put thought into itemisation when you are talking about the same item level ( sockets count as 5 ilvls for this arguement)

waxen cradle
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Yeah that is what I asked him and he told me he has DC and BoM on his other pieces so he is fine because the 375 has Reorg on it but as I said if he can get a Mother helm he should switch to that

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@prisma viper To clarify man what I meant to say was get a 370 Mother helm as that helm is just that much better trait wise and overall sorry for the misunderstanding I should have clarified

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@prisma viper But yeah sorry for the misunderstanding man I should have been more clear what I meant

sweet kayak
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When will mythic season 1 ends?

jade socket
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Jan 22nd presumably

sweet kayak
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Right, thanks!

spiral ravine
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Hi guys, after 8.1 azerite changes, which set of traits is recommended for m+s atm?

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I'm currently running x1 DC, x1 Archive, x1 Iron Fortress

primal crypt
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@ember arrow ravager now heavy repercussion........

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The fuck

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🤔

quiet crane
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Ravager lulz

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I wanna try that one day just for fun

modern gyro
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Guys tell me if i have fun with pala and warr which one i should pick if i want make 10-15 keys on time

quiet crane
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See how much it hurts me

eager tartan
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with a pala you rely on your DPS mates with a warr not :wesmart:

quiet crane
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That’s in the eye of the beholder hex.. they’re both pretty strong it just depends I guess on what you really do A: enjoy more B: what niche you’d like to fulfill

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I mean I’d say warr but that’s just what I prefer lol

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As much as I wanna scream warr it’s a matter of what you’d prefer buddy both of em clear that content with ease

ember arrow
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Tank choice doesnt matter in low keys

willow lotus
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Prof Pally is a little better for utility

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But shit tanks are a dime a dozen

quiet crane
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^ yeah man so really just go head or tails if you like both

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Say pally tails and warr head of something if you can’t decide

eager tartan
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you have to choose between an elf or a cow though

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harsh choice

quiet crane
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Lmao well legs are freaking badass

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Elfs

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That heritage set

eager tartan
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I would call a BElf many things but badass

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alas I guess its a matter ot taste shrug

quiet crane
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Lol and whys that

oblique garnet
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its the racial

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i wouldnt play belf if it werent for the racial

quiet crane
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Not even jjst the racial they’re freaking cool

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Omg

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Losers lol

ember arrow
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Ye

eager tartan
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ORK SMASH ORK BADASS

ember arrow
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Rule 34

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Belf purpose

eager tartan
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mate a single orc arm is a big as belf

ember arrow
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Made belfs horde so more ppl play

quiet crane
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Lol yet get beaten by humans 3x smaller then em

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Arms and strength ain’t all boys

rough egret
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DiD no regrets

ember arrow
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What do belfs have

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Anorexia?

quiet crane
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Looooool you need to do your lore reading friend

ember arrow
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At least nelfs are thicc

daring marlin
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he's trolling you friendo

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also night elves are the worst

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disgusting

ember arrow
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Do i look like i give a single one about lore

quiet crane
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I know 😦 I’m a sucker for it

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I have to anyway

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And what do you play hmmm

ember arrow
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Other games

eager tartan
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ORKS LORE SMASH

quiet crane
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Rip

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Idk how to respond to that

daring marlin
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He plays tauren and orc(when he plays) cuz he likes his boys thicc

quiet crane
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Lmao

ember arrow
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Nothing wrong with thicc bois

eager tartan
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I do agree belf boiz look rather feminine

daring marlin
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lol.

eager tartan
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but I rather play a chick belf then

daring marlin
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That's after they beefed them up too

quiet crane
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Lol Cleary ain’t seen lor themar

daring marlin
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They were smaller before they added them in BC as well but people like you complained that they looked too feminine then.

primal crypt
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Highmountain only.

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Orc boofheads

quiet crane
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Moose horns for days

primal crypt
ember arrow
eager tartan
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tbh I wish I was a highmountain on necrotic weeks

daring marlin
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idk why

quiet crane
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Oh my

primal crypt
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Why

daring marlin
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only erace you should wanna be on necrotic is dark iron

primal crypt
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^

quiet crane
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That do orc but

eager tartan
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need to be alliance for that though

quiet crane
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DK

eager tartan
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hard life

ember arrow
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Yea i got screens from 5 months ago

quiet crane
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I freaking love the dwarf facials it’s not fair

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Racials

primal crypt
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Dwarf or bust for warriors

quiet crane
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Fml

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I walked into that one

primal crypt
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Especially DiD

ember arrow
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@quiet crane you like to get some dwarf facials

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💦

quiet crane
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Fml

eager tartan
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I do agree though dworfs are the only thing that would make me consider join the blue wankers

quiet crane
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Autocorrect can bite me

daring marlin
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I think my Warrior will forever be a dark iron.

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They're just too metal

eager tartan
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that focking armor aswell

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I have a boner for square shoulders

daring marlin
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lul heritage armor

ember arrow
quiet crane
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Ohhh yeah it’s badass and they got the freaking warrior temper to

primal crypt
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And their transmog doesnt clip

quiet crane
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Lmao yup best part

primal crypt
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Like tauren and orc clip a lot

ember arrow
primal crypt
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Because the shoulders are fucking huge

eager tartan
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also I don't really enjoy the new orc animations

primal crypt
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Not proportional

quiet crane
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Furrryyy slllouuuchhh

eager tartan
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they fucked it up like with the tauren ones

primal crypt
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@ember arrow lmaooooooo

quiet crane
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I need to make a dwarf one day

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But leveling ),)

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And alliance

ember arrow
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Oof

eager tartan
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is funny thunderclap gnomes as an orc though

quiet crane
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Alliance though imagine

eager tartan
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is like crunching roaches

primal crypt
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So how to unlock DiD

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I dont have a single 120 ally

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No ally warrior either

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Do I have to level a 120 to level a DiD character?

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Because....no thanks

quiet crane
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Umm yeah I think you need their version of the honourboind rep to

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Honourbound

daring marlin
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You have to complete the initial war campaign

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for alliance

primal crypt
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Oh nahhhhhh

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That's too much

eager tartan
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to be fair nowdays you farm that in no time

primal crypt
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True

daring marlin
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yuck

eager tartan
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still sucks to play on alliance

primal crypt
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But you have to dedicate time

quiet crane
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I’m that poor kid

primal crypt
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Level a toon to 120

quiet crane
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Who will only mythic plus or raid

primal crypt
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To complete campaign

quiet crane
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World content is nah

primal crypt
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Just to level another DiD

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To get heritage armor

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Sounds like a good time

daring marlin
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totes

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yuck

eager tartan
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bb

astral crystal
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My did is level 40 something

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At least you only need 110

daring marlin
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you only need 90 levels

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lul

oblique garnet
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im actually going insane im starting to enjoy the ap grind

primal crypt
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what you mean grind? You spamming islands?

oblique garnet
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yes

primal crypt
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...

oblique garnet
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and doing all the ap wqs

primal crypt
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oh no

oblique garnet
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just blast some music and spam islands they arent that bad

primal crypt
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but why

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what's the point?

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I haven't had to grind out ap this whole expansion

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why start now

oblique garnet
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im bored

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which is why im doing it XD

astral crystal
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Gotta get that fatty 38 before battle for bong city opens

pastel holly
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@primal crypt change 1 char to alliance, no need to farm anything if you were exalted before the change. Just get to the embassy and get the quest

astral crystal
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You still need to hit exalted with 7th legion

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🦵

oblique garnet
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the reps transfer

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so if youre exalted with honorbound you will be exalted with 7th legion aswell

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just gotta do all the footholds etc again

primal crypt
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😮

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wait wait

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so

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Break it down barney style

sick sentinel
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going to attempt tanking a +10 today with guildies never done a 10 yet, hope it goes well.

thorn mango
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@oblique garnet you dont even need to do the footholds, all thats required is u doing the war campaign getting exalted then faction transfer. when i got maghar the ONLY thing i needed to get my neck i think,i cannot remember exactly what,but i do know u didnt need to quest at all in zudazar

oblique garnet
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Well the footholds are part of the warcampaign

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im talking about when you transfer from alliance to horde

thorn mango
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if you have a char that has already done it you've gotten the requirements,i never had to do war campaign as a horde

sand egret
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Yam, transfer a character that is exalted with honorbound

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that turns into 7th

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now you can run the quest

sick sentinel
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you keep everything but the quest progression, so you will need to do a bunch of quests but other than that your character stays the same

sand egret
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to unlock the race

thorn mango
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when i faction transfered a shaman that was 7th exalted with war campaign done i had maghar in less then an hour,no joke....i was able to do the allied quest immedateely

oblique garnet
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yeah

sand egret
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if I ultimately end up transferring my war to horde thats what im gonna do

oblique garnet
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Do it

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JUST DO IT

sick sentinel
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I went from DID to tauren warr last night

thorn mango
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the irony of this situation,is i have a paladin whos exalted with proudmore,once we find out what exactly their requirements are 100%,im already at least set on them 😛 get kul tiran,then faction transfer to get zandalari all in one fel swoop lol

rough egret
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there is no point to play as Horde

oblique garnet
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There is no benefit to play as alliance

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If you want to raid

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or do m0

rough egret
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nwm im just jealous

oblique garnet
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m+

rough egret
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I wanna play horde aswell

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however i have time only for one toon

oblique garnet
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Actually i lied some of the alliance racials are good for m+

rough egret
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FIreblood

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end of story

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shadowmeld maybe

sand egret
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oh i would only be transferring for non-in game reasons. DiD is fucking king to me

rough egret
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for me aswell

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I would like to have the heritage armor unlocked for them aswell

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but im lazy to lvl up

sand egret
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raiding is profusely unappealing to me now and I actually like my smaller m+ scene since I pug and its not just a desolace of either +5s or +15s

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doing it in my horde is fucking painful

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just a sea of kids memeing, bitching about not doing it X way they saw on a stream, etc

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aint got time for that shit

astral crystal
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man i wish my guild would go alliance already

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horde sux

ember arrow
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this reads like a parody

raiding is profusely unappealing to me now and I actually like my smaller m+ scene since I pug and its not just a desolace of either +5s or +15s
doing it in my horde is fucking painful
just a sea of kids memeing, bitching about not doing it X way they saw on a stream, etc
aint got time for that shit

nocturne herald
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What are good trinket atm for us?

rough egret
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does Ablative shielding stack?

oblique garnet
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@nocturne herald what are your options?

rough egret
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im running with syringe and rezans

sand egret
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just ran a ML and I had to kite exactly once

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man this week is fun

rough egret
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same for me at ToS

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at orbs i had 193 necro stacks

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still living and doing well

sand egret
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yeesh lol

rough egret
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fireblood and they were gone 😛

oblique garnet
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Doubt it

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Unless it was like a +7

sand egret
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relative to your gear*

rough egret
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10

shut summit
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necrotic was scaling with raging / was fixed not to now, so prolly possible

ember arrow
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it scaled with ragin?

shut summit
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ye

ember arrow
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im not even surprised at this point

daring marlin
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holy shit

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That’s actually

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hilarious

sand egret
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that's what I was saying! who was it that I asked re: it's dynamic scaling change

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if it inherited the 100% boost. makes sense,

nocturne herald
#

@oblique garnet Vial, Howler, Darkmoon and alchi trinket 385

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velkoz trinket dps 395 and 380 Waycrest Manor Dps

daring marlin
#

lul horde

#

edgybois

sick sentinel
#

If I were you nyx I would go disc and jes

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For m+ specifically

oblique garnet
#

@nocturne herald you have solid trinkets alch trinket and disc probably the best combination

sick sentinel
#

Alchemy over jes ? Is it that good?

oblique garnet
#

Its 1ppm

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So its solid

sick sentinel
#

Well 1ppm sounds really good actually

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Like 25% uptime

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Kind of tempted to craft it now

#

Using a 375+s jes and a 370+s rezans currently

oblique garnet
#

I really dont like howler

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I think its overrated

sick sentinel
#

Well I macroed it to my orc racial since they share CDs

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And it's my "big ignore pains" button

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Or when I want to got big on deeps

oblique garnet
#

What other trinkets do you have?

sick sentinel
#

Uuuh don't really remember tbh, I'll ask you about trinkets when I'm back home

last loom
primal crypt
#

I like this alche trinket

kindred wraith
#

hey - just did a +11 sob - 19% of overall heal - monkheal did 56% - my selfheal should be imrpved right?

oblique garnet
#

@kindred wraith its necrotic week so it reduces it

kindred wraith
#

yes but ip shields so it should not be affected?

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prot warr felt pretty damn smooth

oblique garnet
#

It affects them

kindred wraith
#

i comparison to bdk

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oh ok

#

sad

oblique garnet
#

same with last stand etv

kindred wraith
#

and i thought i found the sup tank for necrotic after they destroyed spellwarding on my pally

ember arrow
#

You can kite

oblique garnet
#

You can get a boomkin and never have to kite

rose moat
#

Anyone else having problems simming on raidbots?

oblique garnet
#

@rose moat Prot cant be simmed

rose moat
#

Damn, ty for the anwser 😃

nocturne herald
#

what is better? Shield with mastery/versa 370 or the same the shield with 365 + socket?

old zephyr
#

Ilvl

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especially for shield

nocturne herald
#

even 370 against 365

#

that 5 ilvl make all the difference

old zephyr
#

yes

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more armor, more block more stam

sick sentinel
#

any amount of block you can get makes a difference

hushed cobalt
#

I have a 395 lions strength, 370 rezans(after o so many atals), 380 mumbas bandaids.
Getting the alch trinket would 1) gimme another transmuter 2) more reason to flask 3) cost barely anything

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It'll beat out mostly all other trinks right? Specially at 415

oblique garnet
#

Uhh

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not sure about that 415

#

its good

hushed cobalt
#

Alch trink eventually can get to 415 though right? Only 2 trinks that look appealing are engine and anchor

lusty grotto
#

fuck alchemy trinket

hushed cobalt
#

Simmer down chipnim

oblique garnet
#

All the trinkets can get to 425 or 420

#

in the game after new raid

hushed cobalt
#

With luckydo lottery. Doubtful I'll go past heroic on warrior :/

daring marlin
#

@lusty grotto fuck you buddy

#

Alch trinket is amazing

lusty grotto
#

no u

daring marlin
#

no U

lusty grotto
#

okay

daring marlin
#

yeah

signal plover
#

This was a wild ride thnx

lusty grotto
#

every day is a wild ride with nimchip and guilfart

oblique garnet
#

fk

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missed the timer on 16 kr by 45 seconds

sick sentinel
#

just missed a shrine by 30

#

I just want to be done with it

#

I'm just going for the feat of str btw

#

(not actually simming, just easier to screenshot this way) @oblique garnet should I craft alchemy trinket?

oblique garnet
#

Rezan alchemy trinket probably best you can get

#

man you need to do more m+

sick sentinel
#

I have done

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like hundreds of 10s or higher

oblique garnet
#

wth

#

lepans chat is so triggering

sick sentinel
#

this shit cost me like 30k gold I hope it is worth it

junior ivy
#

hi people

oblique garnet
#

catofrendo you playing again?

junior ivy
#

nah 😦

#

i dont thinkkk

#

last nightg made me kinda miss it thouygh lol

#

though

#

the people who carried me to get hivemind tried to get me to join their guild lol

astral crystal
#

catfriend

#

are you weep?

junior ivy
#

am i what

lusty grotto
#

hi catfriend

junior ivy
#

hi nimchip

primal crypt
#

hi catfriend

#

@lusty grotto ALCHE trink

#

is goot

wide girder
#

toxic

signal plover
#

Did you race change from gnome yet?

primal crypt
#

why catfriend not greet me

#

😦

junior ivy
#

hi yamorino !

#

and omg who is changing from gnome"?

sick sentinel
#

you lol

junior ivy
#

neverrrrr

oblique garnet
#

Lul @shut summit you doing ama on lepans chat ? XD

primal crypt
#

Lepanclapppp

#

very good prot warrior

oblique garnet
#

hes gonna pass me in io because he gets into these groups feels bad man

junior ivy
#

who is lepan

#

im so out of the loop now

oblique garnet
#

fotm reroller

astral crystal
#

ye who that

sick sentinel
#

If you never heard of him, there is a reason for that

warped hound
#

is there a haste req for doing fetid mythic OT job? i was struggling today to the point of having to make use of the mythrax trinket to get me a few free hits

sick sentinel
#

No there isnt

warped hound
#

aight then, need to go back and look at where i went wrong to get gud

sick sentinel
#

If u have a log, we can analyze it to give you some help

warped hound
hidden kindle
#

Is there anything special that you can do on 3rd boss in motherload to not get so much searing reagant damage? its murdering me so hard (+18)

signal plover
#

Isn't that her auto attack?

oblique garnet
#

^

hidden kindle
#

yes

oblique garnet
#

And sadly no

signal plover
#

The other one is reflectable

oblique garnet
#

there isnt

hidden kindle
#

deals 98k dmg wtf

oblique garnet
#

Chemical burn is reflectable

#

yeah

sick sentinel
#

Just have Ignore painand rage ready

signal plover
#

Did they make that one blockable?

sick sentinel
#

really the only thing you can do

#

aside from the debuff

outer dew
#

@warped hound consider running HR for off tanking fetid

oblique garnet
#

@warped hound you did fine mostly a gearing issue

outer dew
#

HR if played right should fix your gap issue

warped hound
#

aright, cheers guys 😃

outer dew
#

Actually

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Hold the fuck up

warped hound
#

D:

outer dew
#

You have a paladin co tank

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And you're taking thrashes

#

Nanidafuq

oblique garnet
#

^

#

I think if they did the otherway he would get smacked around tho since he is only 372

outer dew
#

Arguably one of the best tanks for fetid

#

Shouldn't be too miserable imo

#

@warped hound and before you say okay. Do you understand why HR is good for offtanking fetid?

warped hound
#

late cast of block, shield slam to extend over 7-8s to cover a second

#

?

outer dew
#

Yes.

#

Instead of 1 sb per thrash

#

Its 1 sb per 2 thrash

hidden kindle
#

Does anyone know if the fire resistance bracers from tol'dagor actually work?

shut summit
#

it works last i tested

#

but that was months ago, so cant say for sure

next ermine
#

TD has fire resistance bracers

#

Wut?

oblique garnet
#

??

hidden kindle
#

ill rock em and see

oblique garnet
#

What fire resistance bracers

hidden kindle
#

drops from tol dagor

open bluff
#

Valyri's Fire-Proof Bracers

next ermine
#

Huh

oblique garnet
#

oh shit i didnt even notice that they had that written on it

#

it was sneaky right on top of the ilvl

next ermine
#

Didn't even think that stat was in-game since like MoP

#

Don't really see any use of it whatsoever besides flavor though

shut summit
#

if you got high enough ilvl / it reduced by any decent amount would be worth

next ermine
#

What even does fire dmg though XD

lusty grotto
#

gonna start streaming in english

oblique garnet
#

Last and 3rd boss of tol dagor do fire damage

shut summit
#

quite a few things are fire damage

next ermine
#

Only things I can think of are TD bosses hence why it'd drop there

#

And like troll mobs in AD

shut summit
#

motherlode last 2, motherlode trash, freehold bosses, etc

sick sentinel
#

god I am so incompetent when doing yasma it's getting ridiculous

#

we were going to deplete the key anyways but holy shit I fucked us over

sweet pike
#

What keeps happening?

#

@sick sentinel

sick sentinel
#

even with a pala clearing with bubble and rogue sprint shroud we still get overwhelmed by spiders

#

I think I am kiting the boss wrong

sweet pike
#

I mean it is tyrannical week, how was the group damage and how high was the key

#

It's an endurance fight on T weeks

sick sentinel
#

it was a +16 and group damage is could be better but it's fine

#

like, we're doing manor +16 in time and missed shrine +16 by like 30 sec

#

and multiple 15s

stone imp
#

We don't bubble clear spiders, just kite

#

Even on a 16 this week

sweet pike
#

Yeah, but you need like 15k+/dps on yazma on something that high

#

Also have you tried using a DH for spider clear? Their netherwalk CD is only 2 minutes

sick sentinel
#

our DH was off to work

sweet pike
#

Ah

stone imp
#

Spider clearing isn't really needed

sweet pike
#

Yeah, just helps if you have the ability to get rid of them

#

Ideally you just kite before it gets overwhelming

oblique garnet
#

@sick sentinel what was your comp ?

sick sentinel
#

thing is, the ranged stack back for soulbind and then when I try to kite I have to avoid the spiders that spawned where these guys were

#

hpala, fury warr, ass rogue and boomkin

sweet pike
#

Comp seems fine tbh

oblique garnet
#

2 melee where one cant clear adds is bit tricky

#

Since you get more spiders under the boss

sick sentinel
#

the warrior basically filled in for our DH

sweet pike
#

Ye, but boomie can basically solo the soulrend

stone imp
#

Can double back and leap

oblique garnet
#

i basically tank yazma in 2 spots

#

where it starts and then i move to either side where is less spiders

#

and once either place gets overwhelmed i just jump to the otherside

stone imp
#

If you kite her around the edge of the room, basically not stopping with people stacking on you, it's pretty safe. During the soulrend phase, they keep moving, I turn her around and go the other way and kite back where I came from

#

Interrupt can be tricky without a ranged sometimes

astral crystal
#

Your group should be more or less tightly gathered too since spiders go to where people are

#

It controls their place a little bit

oblique garnet
#

Maybe you cleared the spiders too early

hidden kindle
#

okay

#

so the fire res

#

on those bracers reduces the fire dmg taken by about 1.6% ish

#

so basically nothing

sick sentinel
#

well if you already wear them

#

it's a nice added bonus

hidden kindle
#

yea, but not sure if its worth the 15 ilvls i dropped for them

#

prob not

sick sentinel
#

it is not

primal crypt
#

I think I'm going to make a DiD warrior on Sargeras

#

I think it's time I had one

primal crypt
#

I like how nim just straight up left us

#

No bye no nothing

lusty grotto
#

that AD went badly

#

cause the DH fucked up

#

could 2 timed it at worst

#

plus that first boss reset

#

my team always fucks up in AD lol

#

at least we +1'd it

#

rest of the team was mad i put english only though

#

🤷

#

but yeah they are always 200% toxic haha

marble cipher
#

We just did two AD in a row and both times the two mobs on the far left side of priest boss (those at the stairs to living side) pulled onto the boss.
Anyone know why? We were all very far from them, just fighting boss at boss spawn...

lusty grotto
#

shrug, i always pull them

marble cipher
#

Normally I do too, didn't need them this time since we aggro'd an extra pack at start

lusty grotto
#

maybe someone tabbed to them?

marble cipher
#

That's my only guess yeah

lusty grotto
#

i do recall skipping them a few times on alts

marble cipher
#

One time we even only pulled one of them, not even both 🤔

sick sentinel
#

Would you guys use a Rezan's Gleaming Eye (340) or Plunderbeard's Flask (355)?

lusty grotto
#

oh sorry @primal crypt ill run more later or tomorrow

marble cipher
#

I'm just gonna not skip them anymore I guess

lusty grotto
#

use plunderbeard's @sick sentinel

#

just remember to use it

#

if you can't remember then use rezans

oblique garnet
#

@primal crypt fine ill stream bit

sick sentinel
#

thanks @lusty grotto

wary badger
#

top two trinks for M+?

oblique garnet
#

Ritual Feather of unn Ax and probably syringe

delicate eagle
#

@sick sentinelestalos#0713 sim it on raidbots. Definitly the best way to know.

#

@sick sentinelestalos#0713

#

If your talking about for its damage anyways

lusty grotto
#

what

#

you cant sim prot in raidbots

delicate eagle
#

Can you not do it in the advanced tab?

lusty grotto
#

there's no APL for prot

upbeat needle
#

Does the damage component of Iron Fortress have an ICD?

lusty grotto
#

not that i know of

delicate eagle
#

Oh mb. Apparently prot warrior is the only one that doesn't have some form of apl

upbeat needle
#

Hmm, alright

#

thanks

olive lotus
#

In your guys experience what are the top 5 trinkets for Prot given same item level?

lusty grotto
#

Defensive or offensive?

#

There's a list in the pins for defensive trinkets

daring marlin
#

god

#

who asked you

#

dipchip

#

me am so clever

#

honk honk

lusty grotto
#

Oi

olive lotus
#

Oh sorry I meant offensive

lusty grotto
#

Rezan, Syringe, Knot, Fathoms, Gore Butcher Block are all solid for dps

oblique garnet
lusty grotto
#

that shit happened on rezan

oblique garnet
#

@primal crypt can you explain what the fuck is happening here

lusty grotto
#

nobody was even up the stairs

primal crypt
#

eh?

oblique garnet
#

Yeah but like they just kept multiplying

primal crypt
#

OH SHIT

#

It happened to you too

oblique garnet
#

Like did we somehow enter the next season affix

primal crypt
#

you tank in that area

#

you pull the vulpera under you

#

it's a floor bug

#

I got teleported downstairs

oblique garnet
#

10/10 design

primal crypt
#

during the boss fight

#

then I got teleported back to boss

#

and it pulled the whole downstairs

#

we're testing reaping on live

oblique garnet
#

I forgot they changed the bobby howlis to also cast fear so my double boomkin cheese strat failed

primal crypt
#

lel

ancient reef
#

you guys think brm overtook dk for m+ tanking in 8.1

primal crypt
#

dont forget, you can interrupt vicious maul too

#

people forgot and let my dps die

#

I kept calling interrupt too

oblique garnet
#

They did

#

Brm was already better on high tyrannical keys than dk

#

Yeah but with 2x 1min cd interrupts and 24 and mine

#

Its hard

sand egret
#

yo for the Jes fight now, you are kicking his cry asap?

oblique garnet
#

Ye

sand egret
#

and just swapping to bobby when he does his focus thing

astral crystal
#

where my frog bois at

oblique garnet
#

Otherwise youre wasting bl

astral crystal
#

what color you guys get

oblique garnet
#

The frog mount?

astral crystal
#

ye

oblique garnet
#

Not wasting 333k on that

sand egret
#

i want that mount real bad

#

way too poor tho

lofty drum
#

what trinkets are you running for M+ pushing and such? 😄

shut summit
#

rezan / gorecrusted / knot of ancient fury / alch stone

#

just w.e you have high ilvl of basically

fringe marten
#

the 355 one? I was going to craft it but figured I'd wait for 385

shut summit
#

you can make 385

fringe marten
#

? i thought the new dungeons drops weren't available?

#

the new cores

oblique garnet
#

You dont need them

#

You craft the 355 you get recipe for 370 and you craft that you get 385

#

The 385 that needs tidalcore is the new baseline that turns into 400->415

fringe marten
#

just keep crafting 355 or is it at a vendor? hell I'll log in and make it now

oblique garnet
#

Craft the 355 you automaticly get recipe for 370 scrap the 355 you get expulsom back and do the same with 370

fringe marten
#

derp lol..yeah just did it. htf does no one mention this in game?

oblique garnet
#

Idk

#

It worked the same with every profession

fringe marten
#

I just saw the 355 and and 380 recipe and figured "oh I'll make it when season 2 hits.."

#

that aside I still think I'd rather use my knot of fury and goreblock for M+

#

but I'll try this out for a zone or two now

warm plinth
#

I don't know if they understand what the word "fun" means.

misty pawn
#

how is archive of the titans for prot?

jade socket
#

It’s a fake post and been posted several times don’t need to see it again @last loom

warm plinth
#

Oh man, now I have to fact check Skyhold posts 🤦

drowsy relic
#

@shut summit were you spending rage on shield block in that motherlode?

#

I just did a 17 ml, I just used all rage on IP and reflected every burn where possible, didn’t cast sb once

daring marlin
#

@oblique garnet We fell through the floor earlier.

#

on jes

#

It was epic

shut summit
#

if you mean for last 2 bosses, shield block is only for dps really

#

you want to use it during last boss slam when he going into pillars, otherwise its just to buff ss

drowsy relic
#

Yeah 3rd boss**

#

Yeah, it was still very tight

#

Idk how you managed an 18

#

I’m running with a hpal so maybe he doesn’t provide enough st healing compared to a monk

sand egret
#

dont forget to SR the chemical burns on that lady

potent anvil
#

afaik chemical burn targets the nearest 2 targets to her. you can bait it on melee dps + healer or both melee dps if your spell reflect isnt up

#

that's how ive been managing it anyway and seems to behave that way

drowsy relic
#

thats actually amazing ty for that ❤ ❤

little rain
#

That's correct @potent anvil , you can rotate people with CD"s up to soak when needed

orchid ginkgo
#

Is prot significantly better now?

long tinsel
#

What is the best way to clear nectrotic stacks?

#

And what number should I be concerned

oblique garnet
#

40

#

40 is the point where i actually notice that i cant tank anymore and actually have to leap away

long tinsel
#

For what key? I feel like I'm struggling on 20 for 10+

oblique garnet
#

15->

#

Depends entirely on your gear tho

long tinsel
#

I'm at 378

oblique garnet
#

If you have boomkin you dont have to worry about necrotic at all

long tinsel
#

Yes I know that

#

My healer says its been hard at 20+ do you just spam ignore pain at that point?

oblique garnet
#

Nah

#

Im usually at 90% health at 20 stacks unless its heavy magical damage dungeon

drowsy relic
#

you cant

#

at 20+ stacks your ignore pain is already getting alot weaker

long tinsel
#

Right it would just be a waste of rage?

chilly brook
#

It’ll depend on the mobs your fighting tbh

oblique garnet
#

Shawrus you still looking for prot video of how to deal with necrotic without monk or boomkin?

chilly brook
#

And you’re never wasting rage

oblique garnet
#

Its never waste of rage due to am

chilly brook
#

If something is on CD you’re not wasting rage by using it

drowsy relic
#

nah at this point im only pushing with a boomy

chilly brook
#

You only waste rage by not using rage

drowsy relic
#

its just soo much easier

oblique garnet
#

Yeah

long tinsel
#

Right

drowsy relic
#

yeah you dont want to waste rage especially if youre capping

oblique garnet
#

Boomkin is ❤️

ancient reef
#

do monks just rop it away

oblique garnet
#

There are too many mobs not affected by rop

long tinsel
#

Shockwave then leap away?

oblique garnet
#

Pretty much

drowsy relic
#

if youre feeling spicy, leap away then charge and shockwave with 2 seconds on necrotic left xd

oblique garnet
#

Dont do that

drowsy relic
#

maybe you get the stun, maybe yo udont and necrotic starts again

chilly brook
#

ROP/chi torp/tp is how I’d deal with it

#

As a monk

drowsy relic
#

on the last boss of motherlode i was confused though

#

was SB just a damage increase?

chilly brook
#

A lot of people don’t use the teleport for some reason

drowsy relic
#

does SB block its auto attacks?

long tinsel
#

SOS is giving me trouble

oblique garnet
#

No sb doesnt block last boss ml at all

#

Except drill smash

drowsy relic
#

oh wow

#

im legit trolling my motherlode keys

ancient reef
#

oh monks transendence

oblique garnet
#

You can pretty much sr on cd in ml

#

Since you can sr the autos off the boss

#

Also idk if you knew you can also sr the mechs charged claws in ml

drowsy relic
#

yeah

#

been doing that alot

#

its abit weird but ive set up intercept macros to my healer and boomy in my keys now lol

#

to drop necrotic stacks

chilly brook
#

I just mouseover intercept on party frames

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

oblique garnet
#

^

drowsy relic
#

yeah that works too, i get them to always stand so I can kite using their positioning

ancient reef
#

i setup an intercept focus for that reason

oblique garnet
#

Imagine having teammates that do that

#

Man can dream

chilly brook
#

Imagine having teammates

#

xD

oblique garnet
#

My group moved to atlas

#

FeelsBadMan

chilly brook
#

They’ll be back

oblique garnet
#

Need to find new people to push keys with

drowsy relic
#

lol i have a 'team' but we're all playing subpar specs

chilly brook
#

Or maybe they won’t

#

Maybe they don’t have phones

#

🙃

drowsy relic
#

ive got a ww monk, dk, boomy and hpal in my group :/

oblique garnet
#

Not bad for this week tbh

drowsy relic
#

yeah

oblique garnet
#

Boomkin is imo the best dps atm

#

Ranged dps*

drowsy relic
#

yeah, everythng else is kinda weird tho

chilly brook
#

I’ve been playing ESO lately and I’m not regretting it

#

I feel dirty

oblique garnet
#

Idk ww seems good

#

And dk never hurt anybody

#

Just the hpala seems bit ofd

#

Off

chilly brook
#

DK hurt everyone

drowsy relic
#

i think people think dk is a bad pick since people generally run blood dk

#

but its solid with a prot warrior who lacks alot of utility

oblique garnet
#

Ye

#

I like running with dks

chilly brook
#

It’s just community perception that they hurt

oblique garnet
#

Shame that theres no inbetween in a glue sniffing dk and literal god

drowsy relic
#

yeah their dps is ridiculous

chilly brook
#

“Why would we take a DPS DK when we can just have the blood DK”

drowsy relic
#

and since prot warriors have no brez, its nice to have a second brez with a dk

chilly brook
#

It was kinda that way in legion too which was weird af

drowsy relic
#

ahh

#

i didnt do keys in legion but i assume blood dks* were still the best

oblique garnet
#

Engineering brez is good

#

It cant fail

chilly brook
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Because frost was a monster in m+ in legion

oblique garnet
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But it has too long of an cast

drowsy relic
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4 seconds i think

oblique garnet
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Yeah

chilly brook
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Blood DKs were “best” tanks in legion by a good margin

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Vengeance was close behind though

drowsy relic
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yeah their kit is just ridiculous

chilly brook
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Strictly speaking m+

drowsy relic
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yeah

chilly brook
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Arguably Druid was the best raid tank until they removed Mark, and then it was BrM

oblique garnet
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If you can compensate for the lack of utility warrior has atm its actually very good in m+

chilly brook
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Yea

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It’s kinda weird

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It’s almost like

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You

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You....

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Can build a team around a spec to fill out the weaknesses?

oblique garnet
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^

chilly brook
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Who woulda thought that there was the possibility to have more than one comp?

oblique garnet
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I tried to get into pushing groups but they wouldnt take me because im not a bdk

drowsy relic
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100% form your own group

oblique garnet
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Yeah

chilly brook
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If you wanna get anywhere without being a blood DK you have to form your own groups

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Doesn’t really matter what tank you are

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Too many sheep

oblique garnet
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I mean im still not nr1 only at around 1.8k rio so i still have a long journey before i will beat sense

chilly brook
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Hey

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You’re still top 1% 😉

oblique garnet
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Dont care

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Its either best at the class or nothing

chilly brook
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You right dude, 1.8k must be average topkek

oblique garnet
chilly brook
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Sorry I’ll stop bringing that up

drowsy relic
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lol

chilly brook
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Too much meme

oblique garnet
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I was there griff i know

drowsy relic
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i want to get close to 2k ifpossible lol

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i just want my score to change colours lol

chilly brook
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That was an interesting morning

oblique garnet
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2k is possible

chilly brook
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Definitely possible

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Even more so after the buffs and the dungeon nerfs

oblique garnet
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I have my goals set up and i will achieve them no matter the costs

drowsy relic
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hows are you guys dealing with the KR berserkers?

oblique garnet
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Treants

drowsy relic
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treants and burst asap?

chilly brook
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I’m not

oblique garnet
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And hunter pet

drowsy relic
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ohh

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i have a dk, so I always just tank 1 and have our dk control the other, but if I want to do higher KR's i dont think i can even tank 1

potent anvil
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you chain cc/stun the leap since itll cast it right after until it does it successfully, if you want to delay bleeds. otherwise you can eat 2 at most and have the healer spam you until you just kite

chilly brook
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As much as I’d like to actually start going at the game again I’m limited because I don’t have my MMO mouse and I’m too set in my ways with it to try and make all a good 6-8 more keybinds on my keyboard to compensate

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That’s usually how I’d do it

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Stay in until 2 stacks and run

drowsy relic
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jesus

oblique garnet
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You wont get more than two stacks if you stun properly

drowsy relic
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on the two berserker pack

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whats the plan?

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just before the boss

oblique garnet
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Treants early

chilly brook
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Tclap 5 times and run like a bitch

oblique garnet
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Have hunter pet take the hit

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You chave good 10 seconds after they have cast severing blade to tank them

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Also deswind man i cant believe you passed me in rio

potent anvil
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if you dont have classes with pets to eat it, just focus one down. hard CC-ing the other makes that pull go a bit slower, but its safer

oblique garnet
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^

drowsy relic
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kk will plan it out the stun orders on those before we go in lol

potent anvil
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did i? whats your name? ive been doing keys casually and just so happen to make small pushes now and again lol

chilly brook
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Probably best tbh

oblique garnet
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Zurol i need to get on that method push group hype so i can actually get a competent team instead of pugging since people i play with are slacking

chilly brook
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Boost my monk to 120 and I’ll be your healer

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😉

oblique garnet
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You dont play on eu griff

drowsy relic
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lmao im an idiot i just realised youre deswind on the leaderboards lol

chilly brook
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Psssshh

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Get me an EU account and boost my monk and I’ll be your healer

oblique garnet
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Sure

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Bfa is on sale

chilly brook
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Lmao

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Is it really?

oblique garnet
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Yes

drowsy relic
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wait @potent anvil howd you push those keys in fury spec?

daring marlin
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Isn't it 10 bucks off?

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who cares lol

drowsy relic
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but in prot traits?

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did you go in as a different spec?