protection

[neat harbor]

not the same actually, now its LFR, Norm, heroic, mythic

then it was only lfr, norm, heroic

[lusty grotto]

no

[last loom]

when i join m+ i can't see the progress of it and deaths affixes what not. its not showing anyone got an idea what it may be?

[neat harbor]

so one less difficulty sir

[lusty grotto]

it was LFR -> flex -> normal -> heroic

[neat harbor]

oh wait, you may be right

[lusty grotto]

flex wasn't LFR at all

[neat harbor]

10 man was already to where you could have more than 10 ya?

so that sounds right

er wait

there were no new mechanics tho

like you get from norm to heroic

so technically a bit different than the current setup then

anyone who didnt see that world first vid though, check out the ending

truly insane shit

[main vault]

Sloots bubble?

Yeah

Sorry, Treckie, not Sloot

[last loom]

2 months after progression is done one of our raiders gets banned for account sharing. When he had been playing from the UK on his vacation

nice

[primal crypt]

permaban?

[last loom]

so logging in from another place is appareantly bannable

status "suspended" i suspect its 6 months

[primal crypt]

wow

[last loom]

so guys just play wow from home or u get banned

[open bluff]

I have no problems logging in from multiple locations

[last loom]

Well idk. he got his cutting edge when he was in the UK that was our first kill on ghuun

[open bluff]

I take it he was at an Internet cafe or hotel(

The IP could've tied him to someone else who was banned, it's a risk you take on (semi) public networks because despite it being 2018

[stone crag]

there's definitely more to the story they aren't saying,

[open bluff]

Blizzard apparently hasn't figured out UUID comparisons if your guildie isn't full of shit

[last loom]

why do they care though

world 350

its not like world first

[stone crag]

that's not how it works...

[zealous mirage]

What has UUID comparison to do with if u or someone else log in at different places?

[open bluff]

Different computer/user profile means you aren't necessarily the same person

[stone crag]

i've known people to log into different computers, different IPs in the same house and be fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

and across country

and be fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[open bluff]

"Account sharing" is almost never banned over unless you were breaking other rules in the process

[stone crag]

wrong

plenty of people get punished for account sharing

[last loom]

ye we had a legitamate account share ban earlier last expansion

one of our raiders were piloting pvp accounts for glad

[open bluff]

I log into my wife's account from time to time and neither of us have ever get so much as a look from Blizzard

[last loom]

i mean i thin k it has to do with the content you do

[zealous mirage]

I say one reason you get banned for acc sharing is if you login at two different locations in the world within an unreasonable time span, which would not be possible to travel

[last loom]

if u suddenly get 3k rating from nowhere it looks fishy

[open bluff]

Again, never had an issue with that

[stone crag]

confirmation bias

[last loom]

well @zealous mirage he logged in after beeing offline for 2days and then after logging out he didnt log back on for another 3 days

[open bluff]

It's all about what you're doing at the time

Simply logging in elsewhere isn't enough to prompt an investigation

[warm plinth]

That's my experience as well Avalith. Never done anything wrong (other than the account sharing of course) while on someone else's account; never had Blizzard so much as bat an eye in my direction, even sharing accounts that are typically accessed across the country from me.

[main vault]

Unless it’s somewhere blatant like on stream they won’t do anything

Until the second account is used it boost runs or something

Then banned

If the account shows to be logging in all over the place the most they will do is watch it

[soft kindle]

Bit late but maybe he abused the Ivus loot thing

[last loom]

No he hasnt even got an active sub

Wasnt any boost runs nor streamed

[stone crag]

loot bug is in reference to the world boss "exploit"

[last loom]

Ye ik

Hasnt been online for a month

[soft kindle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stone crag]

definitely questionable but now much you can do ¯_(ツ)_/¯

if it truly was the reason stated above, it can be appealed quite easily

[main vault]

They may have it flagged as boosting lol

If it’s his first offense it’s not 6 months

Closer to like a week

But he got an email so that will say what it is

[last cloud]

Tell him to call them on skype and it will be lifted if they have no proof (most likely it was an automatic suspend due wierd logging schemes)

Neither ticket or emailing doesnt help

And not being online a month then suddenly logging from other country is wierd logging scheme tbh

(And getting ghuun mythic in the same day)

[drowsy relic]

thoughts on the engi helm for prot war?

the 3rd ring trait also clears bleeds (and necrotic)

and you get this primary trait

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=280178/relational-normalization-gizmo

"Shrinking the world grants you 324 primary stat and 7924 maximum health for 10 sec. Growing the world grants you 614 Haste and 25% movement speed for 10 sec."

[sick sentinel]

engi helmet will be really good for release

[old zephyr]

Will be good, and Will have guaranteed DC

[vast anvil]

How do you guys check what you are doing right or wrong

in raids

new to prot warrior

[warm plinth]

Post your logs here and ask us? :p

[vast anvil]

not yet im in grays

i mean with other classes i learned what I should be doing by checking wowanalyzer literally every down, seeing what i did wrong

with this warrior, there arent enough of that spec

is there a specific guide?

neevermind

[warm plinth]

There's a guide in #268491842637660160

[vast anvil]

NEVERMIND

dont

[warm plinth]

😄

[finite gull]

I got my first 395 and its a big red button.. 😦

[sick sentinel]

it is not the worst you can get but defenitely not the best

imagine getting a 395 merektha's fang

I would quit the game game right there

[marble cipher]

I've been running Atal almost non stop lately, and still don't have Rezan's, still rocking a 340 Big Red Button

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[drowsy relic]

nah you can make the helmet rn

the engineering helmet

but you wont get DC on it, its just the engi trait

[sick sentinel]

you can't make it at 415 tho

[drowsy relic]

yeah just 385

i was curious if that trait was decent or not

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=280178/relational-normalization-gizmo

[sick sentinel]

not better than a prot specific trait

[drowsy relic]

isnt flat strength and haste increase better thanmost traits?

[warm plinth]

I'm sure it's better than a few. Depends on your alternatives.

[old zephyr]

The helm with extra ring nd guaranteed DC you'll have to wait for the release of the raid 😃

[weary nacelle]

is that only an engineering helm

like requires the profession to wear it

[last cloud]

yes

[sick sentinel]

TIL that the third boss of underrot melees while casting festering harvest

that's weird

[old zephyr]

Mythrax melee while casting his cleave as well

[ionic fern]

Same was with Varimathras or w/e he was called

[old zephyr]

he was such a joke though

[sick sentinel]

"Oh he's casting, I can refresh necrotic since I have been unlucky with parties"

Parries*

Both tbh

[old zephyr]

[marble cipher]

My weakaura that shows necro stacks wasn't working anymore (think ID of debuff changed), and for a full trashpack I honnestly thought I was getting soooooo lucky with parries 😄

[tribal fox]

someone know when we get prot warrior into simcraft dps chart and when we can sim them?

[drowsy relic]

wait

bastion of might is bad trait?

[sick sentinel]

Bom is bad for raids

Very, very good in m+

[drowsy relic]

ohh was reading the pins it says that its the worst spec specific trait which is odd

[marble cipher]

very good in M+ for dmg I guess, or also for mitigation?

[old zephyr]

mastery give critblock and extra IP amount, so it's good for mitigation i m+ but quite random so not that good for raid

[steel mauve]

Bom is great for dmg, not so good for mitigation

[sick sentinel]

You can expect with 6 rings to use 1DC, 1BoM and 4 other traits for raiding

Possibly 3BfI, 1 IF

Or the raid specific one

[old zephyr]

Skyscorchers (Motherlode), Crown (loot from jaina), Desert breastplate (Sethralis)

There is no raid specific on as far as I know

[sick sentinel]

The one that gives haste and health to the nearest guy near you and yourself

No array though

[old zephyr]

The numbers I have seen were brap

like 200 haste Yay...

[sick sentinel]

I remember like 500

[old zephyr]

500 may be worth but 200....

[sick sentinel]

And if you and your co-tank has it you get double that

Afaik

[old zephyr]

I'll just stack BFI/IF

for great block

[sick sentinel]

3x bfi sounds bonkers yeah

[old zephyr]

I think you can get 2/2 not sure about 3/1

[drowsy relic]

😃

any prot warriors streaming atm?

[sick sentinel]

If there is nobody on twitch, this morning sense uploaded a +19 underrot (chested)

Good shit

[drowsy relic]

wow thats insane

[sick sentinel]

And like yesterday a td+19 , also chested

[drowsy relic]

i recently started playing prot didnt expect people to push it that hard after the buffs

[sick sentinel]

People were doing 18s before the buffs tbh

If it was not necrotic I bet he can do higher

[drowsy relic]

I don’t think necrotic is a huge deal for tol and under

Especially with his comp

But 19s are massive keys tho

[marble cipher]

Specifically for M+, would you say BoM x 2 + DC are the traits to aim for? Only dropping ilvl for DC.
Or is another combo better?

[jagged bay]

hi have a nice weekend:)

[primal crypt]

2 bom 1 DC is purely for max dmg

and if you're not too worried about survival you would drop ilvl

I went from two 390 pieces to 375s just to have 2x BoM

but I'm at 382 still

[drowsy relic]

yo im not sure if this is good or not

but im pushing 16s and 17s this week running ravager

is it a solid talent this week?

[ember arrow]

🤔

no

[drowsy relic]

im about to do my first 18 tol and im thinking about running ravager for that too

[prisma viper]

Why are BFI and IF recommended in the pins? I always feel that it is the magic and unavoidable physical damage that kills you, a blocked attack just tickles anyway, so why focus on reducing it even more?

[ember arrow]

because you got cds for magic dmg

and 90% of dmg you take at least is blockable, physical dmg

[drowsy relic]

i mean ravager isnt a bad talent

[prisma viper]

For raids I assume then?

[drowsy relic]

and it makes sense this week

[ember arrow]

@drowsy relic its not bad

its terrible

useless

you are memeing right

[drowsy relic]

really? i few prot warriors are running it in 'high' keys this week

[sick sentinel]

Our only option that reduces magic damage is Bloodsport and even that is arguable

[ember arrow]

@prisma viper in m+ 50% of all dmg is autoattacks

look at dmg taken

[sick sentinel]

They are running it for that 50% party

[ember arrow]

ravager is never an option

whoever takes it handicaps himself

[drowsy relic]

really?

[sick sentinel]

But no, ravager is never an option

[ember arrow]

waht did i stumble into

notliek this

[sick sentinel]

You never take off AM

[drowsy relic]

never?

[primal crypt]

Stop trolling

Lol

This guy

Ravager havin ass

[ember arrow]

@prisma viper

[primal crypt]

[ember arrow]

this is average profile of a dungeon

[drowsy relic]

since im doing bigger pulls on the tol i think it might be worth

i can link my mdt

[primal crypt]

Ravager does less dmg than your revenge....

[ember arrow]

this guy

[primal crypt]

And 50%party

[ember arrow]

gotta be kidding me

[drowsy relic]

its not about the damage its about the necrotic stacks

[primal crypt]

There is no argument

.....

[ember arrow]

then dont facetank?

[drowsy relic]

on a 1 min cd

[ember arrow]

[primal crypt]

Yikes

[ember arrow]

@primal crypt i join prot

this happens

[primal crypt]

You shouldn't have said anything lol

I should have just left

[drowsy relic]

idk 2 korean prot warriors are running it atm, so i figured its a solid talent

[ember arrow]

it isnt

[primal crypt]

It's not

[ember arrow]

"because othrs are doing it"

isnt an argument to why its good

[drowsy relic]

nah my argument is that it helps with necrotic stacks

[ember arrow]

no it doesnt, its rng

it does nothing once it expires

AM is essential to playing prot

you sacrifice 40+% cdr

for what

35% parry for 12 sec

then have n otalent

[primal crypt]

[sick sentinel]

You can just, pop CDs with avatar, establish aggro and then trees

And after trees, kite

No matter how big your pull is, that should be enough

[primal crypt]

That moment you pop ravager and it doesnt parry anything and you keep your necrotic stacks. Feelsbadman

[nova gale]

How shit is this? (currently using both darkmoon trinkets )

[drowsy relic]

hmm i wouldnt say there's no argument for ravager

[ember arrow]

its better than blockades

[primal crypt]

There isn't

[ember arrow]

its not only terrible on its own

[primal crypt]

BUT

[ember arrow]

it also competes with 2 reliable options

[primal crypt]

if it works for you bro, run it

[ember arrow]

one of which is pty much essential

[primal crypt]

If it's keeping you alive, just don't recommend it to others

[sick sentinel]

Imagine not taking AM

[primal crypt]

That's how warriors get memed

[drowsy relic]

maybe since im doing lower keys its not too bad

[ember arrow]

irrelevant

AM is better for dmg

and for defense

[sick sentinel]

You are literally playing the spec wrong

[primal crypt]

Yeah

[ember arrow]

on low keys it especially is useles

s

[steady dragon]

the guide is a bit vague about this, but would you guys say that +15 ilvls is not worth dropping deafening crash for?

[primal crypt]

At lower keys it's even more essential to run AM

[ember arrow]

since parrying isnt essential

15 is the max you should

Rewon

the guide is a bit vague about this, but would you guys say that +15 ilvls is not worth dropping deafening crash for?

in #protection · Dec 21, 2018, 1:18 PM

[nova gale]

Btw @sick sentinel , thanks for the tips yesterday 😃 Managed to tank all the way to Mythic Mythrax with my 360 warrior lol

[ember arrow]

iirc

[primal crypt]

@steady dragon 30 ilvls you can drop to get dc

[sick sentinel]

@steady dragon for m+ I would not drop it even for 15

[steady dragon]

cheers

gonna be stuck with this shitty 370 piece i guess then 😅

[primal crypt]

@ember arrow current state of dc is about 30

At least last I seen

[ember arrow]

i guess i didnt remember correctly then, oh well

good thing you guys corrected me

[sick sentinel]

@nova gale good shit, did you OT fetid?

[nova gale]

Ya

[primal crypt]

But im over here dropping ilvls for double bom and dc so what do I mnow

[ionic fern]

I got 385 RNG Deafening shoulders. 😆

[sick sentinel]

How did that go with only 2 stacks of array?

[primal crypt]

I just want to run around and do 20k overall lul

[nova gale]

I had 0 stack of array

but it went good

[drowsy relic]

im watching a warrior do a motherlode with ravager rn, it doesnt seem too bad

[ember arrow]

cutting off your right hand isnt too bad either

[nova gale]

I had to call for externals when I didnt have a shield block

[ember arrow]

you can still wank with your left one

[primal crypt]

Lmao

[nova gale]

But other than that it was gucci 😄

[sick sentinel]

Nice

[nova gale]

It was scary tho lol

[primal crypt]

Left is better than right anyway

[drowsy relic]

is he just doing a meme build then?

[ember arrow]

what key is it

level

[drowsy relic]

19

[sick sentinel]

The armor buffs and the 2s off SB cd helps

[drowsy relic]

its not high

but its pushing it

[nova gale]

But my 360 warrior took way less dmg than my 386 monk lol 😄

[dreamy patrol]

gotta drop the big damages

[ember arrow]

so he basically

handicaps himself for no reason

and reducing both his defensies and dps

[primal crypt]

19 is high though lmao

[drowsy relic]

i was able to tank a 16 under and tol with it as well

it doesnt seem that bad

[primal crypt]

Im done

[ember arrow]

yes, and you did way less dmg than you should

because you hadnt had AM for more DS

[lusty grotto]

50%morning

[ember arrow]

@lusty grotto help

[primal crypt]

Right on time nim

[sick sentinel]

@nova gale that's by design though, Brm takes more damage than any tank spec

[primal crypt]

50%party irl

[lusty grotto]

im an adult, whatsup

[nova gale]

true true

[sick sentinel]

But it's the way they take it

[ember arrow]

Shawrus

im watching a warrior do a motherlode with ravager rn, it doesnt seem too bad

in #protection · Dec 21, 2018, 1:21 PM

[sick sentinel]

That's different

[lusty grotto]

OH GOD

[ember arrow]

yes its that bad

[sick sentinel]

Just read the convo

Nim

[lusty grotto]

Late you took your meme build too far

[sick sentinel]

It's really really bad

[primal crypt]

Honesty, we're getting trolled

And everyone is eating into it lol

[ember arrow]

we should respond

because lurkers might believe it

[heavy chasm]

It wouldn't be "that bad" if it competed with shockwave row maybe haa

[lusty grotto]

if only ravager was 100% parry

basically leaving parrying hits to chance

[dreamy patrol]

i mean it cant be as bad as being a guardian amirite?

[heavy chasm]

But AM is bae

[primal crypt]

That's why I said, use it if you must, but stop recommending the shit talent

[lusty grotto]

pray to god you don't get necrotic refreshed

[sick sentinel]

Or if it did more damage than a revenge

[lusty grotto]

0 deeps using ravager

err

oops

[primal crypt]

50%party

And prY

[sick sentinel]

If the party was 100%

[lusty grotto]

are these koreans running crit builds?

[sick sentinel]

Maybe if you got laid after

[lusty grotto]

because even then it would still be shit

[wintry ermine]

I would have around 50% parry with ravager, doesn't seem bad if you're doing huge pulls and kiting between

[drowsy relic]

ive only been using ravager for the past day tho after watching two high warriors run it

[wintry ermine]

not using our dps though

[lusty grotto]

is it boost?

[drowsy relic]

nah its some dude with a weird name i can link it

[sick sentinel]

@wintry ermine that's why the 50% party meme

[drowsy relic]

I can link streams here right?

[lusty grotto]

if its not boost it doesnt matter

koreans are crazy

[primal crypt]

^

[lusty grotto]

they try all sorts of bullshit

sorry yamo

[dreamy patrol]

the koreans are a wild and reckless bunch who are not to be regarded with any ounce of normality

[primal crypt]

Koreans are retarded because they test everything

For no reason

Koreans don't care

[drowsy relic]

yeah both warriors were korean

[sick sentinel]

Not all Asians are Koreans nim

[dreamy patrol]

hell i respect it

[primal crypt]

Just straight up dont care

[lusty grotto]

not having cds up is bad and you should feel bad

[ember arrow]

ravager is a cd

[dreamy patrol]

they run all kinds of wild shit and i love it

[primal crypt]

Like the healer keeps telling me you have 50 stacks of necrotic

Im like im good

Push it to 75 just because

[dreamy patrol]

dont need healing if im not getting hit

[primal crypt]

Korean

[lusty grotto]

my bro fucking rops at 12 stacks

[sick sentinel]

You still do, it's a bleed

[lusty grotto]

had to yell at him

[primal crypt]

Lmao

[lusty grotto]

wtf mang

[sick sentinel]

I book it at 35

[primal crypt]

Had a druid dropping trees at 10

[dreamy patrol]

if it's not triple digits i hold the line

[lusty grotto]

i say cabron really loudly

[dreamy patrol]

E

[sick sentinel]

"Goodbye, have fun"

[primal crypt]

Let me insta stack to 30 at least

Then we can talk trees plz

Waste of cds

[lusty grotto]

Excuse me sir, but i need to dps

[nova gale]

I'm in a habit of using revenge way to much. Same keybinding as my Kegsmash looool

[steady fiber]

Hi guys, how i can deal with berserker bleed from KR ? And how to fight vs the trolls in AD (that are immortal if totem is alive)

[lusty grotto]

YIKES

[dreamy patrol]

yea can u dont? im trynna parse here geez

[ember arrow]

kite it

Pkownzs

Hi guys, how i can deal with berserker bleed from KR ? And how to fight vs the trolls in AD (that are immortal if totem is alive)

in #protection · Dec 21, 2018, 1:30 PM

dont be in melee range

[lusty grotto]

its not fort so just kill totems

no

[primal crypt]

@steady fiber kite, boomkin trees, pet taunt

[lusty grotto]

that makes it bleed dps

[ember arrow]

for totems u just kill em

[primal crypt]

Stuns

[steady fiber]

no i know that just kill it

[lusty grotto]

tank the bleed, use shield wall, it's not fort week, you shouldnt need cds

[sick sentinel]

Parry it

[primal crypt]

To slow them down

[red sun]

Hi

[steady fiber]

but i mean after that trolls start fcking green shit party

[primal crypt]

Kite

[steady fiber]

and mainly i wipe there

[primal crypt]

And move

[lusty grotto]

so just kite

and dont step on green

[primal crypt]

Kite in a circle

Big circle

[lusty grotto]

same strat as the boss p2

[sick sentinel]

@red sun 👋

[steady fiber]

so kite then or taunt, same with KR bers bleed y ?

[lusty grotto]

if its fort week i just kill everything else, and then kill totems

[primal crypt]

Yup

[lusty grotto]

Do not kite Berserkers

[primal crypt]

No no

Kite them

[lusty grotto]

they put bleed on the closest target

[ember arrow]

why are there melee dps

Nimchip

they put bleed on the closest target

in #protection · Dec 21, 2018, 1:33 PM

[lusty grotto]

your dps will die

[primal crypt]

Let the melee eat the bleed

[ember arrow]

in your kr group

[primal crypt]

🍆 🍆 🍆 🍆

[sick sentinel]

@steady fiber you should get a feeling when they are about to cast bleed again and if you have already one (or 2) stacks on you , charge your healer so a melee dps gets it

[primal crypt]

Always let your melee eat the bleed

[ember arrow]

or a pet

[lusty grotto]

rip dps

[ember arrow]

or ghuun trinket tentacle

[sick sentinel]

Or a pet

[primal crypt]

No way

Ghuun trinket works?

[ember arrow]

yes

[sick sentinel]

Or a demon from your demo lock LUL

[primal crypt]

Lul

My hunter gets so mad

[lusty grotto]

dont be pussies, i just tank the bleed

[primal crypt]

Because his pet dies so many times

[sick sentinel]

I have been running with a guildie demo lock

[primal crypt]

You cant nim

[lusty grotto]

shield wall

[sick sentinel]

And I give the bleed to his Imps

[lusty grotto]

😃

[primal crypt]

That shit was ticking for 130kkk

Cant tank that madness

[lusty grotto]

or super awesome monk orb

[drowsy relic]

i asked the korean dude, he said that he runs ravager since necrotic stacks hurt warriors - his english is bad tho so idk how to ask him properly

[lusty grotto]

yeah hes retarded and probably read when Late started the meme build thing

[primal crypt]

We're past

[lusty grotto]

specifically for necrotic :p

[primal crypt]

I was going to run crit build

But that would have only been 75%party

So not worth

[sick sentinel]

Another solution for bleeds is

Just parry the bleed

[primal crypt]

Stoppppp lmao

[old zephyr]

I have pushed a bunch of keys this week (not super high level I have to tell), but even during big pulls necro isn't an issue

less noticed than quacking lol

[primal crypt]

Ugh

Quacking

[steady fiber]

well necro true

[primal crypt]

When your dps consistently kill you

So triggering

[steady fiber]

Quacking for me was hard

or Teeming was hard dunno 😄

[sick sentinel]

I am between leap CD and TC radius talent still

[primal crypt]

They just slightly clip you because they're blind

[old zephyr]

necro, you just shockwave leap and it's easy

[steady fiber]

bcs there were so many adds so mainly i was fucked nearly allways

[sick sentinel]

Because with a slow

[old zephyr]

Leap all the way

[sick sentinel]

You can TC out of melee range

[primal crypt]

Assassination rog is good this week for your melee slot

[sick sentinel]

And you can kite with intercept anyway

[old zephyr]

some mobs can't be slowed and the extra speend on leap is amazing vs those

[primal crypt]

Crippling is delicious

[old zephyr]

Assassination rogue is good every week though

[sick sentinel]

I have been using leap talent basically all expac

[primal crypt]

That too

Just rog in general

But crippling is great here

[steady fiber]

hmm it's better leap talent or the TC ?

[narrow abyss]

Esp with frost mage nerfs

[sick sentinel]

I just asked that @steady fiber

[primal crypt]

Yeah, they destroyed frost mage slow :(

[sick sentinel]

Fury warr provides a 50% slow for 15 sec

On 0 cd

[narrow abyss]

No CD either on that

[rich drift]

hey dudes im kinda new to prot warr, what kinda azerite setup do we prefer for m+?

[sick sentinel]

And aoe

[primal crypt]

But furry warrior

Ehhhhhh

They're the opposite of tricks

[sick sentinel]

@rich drift DC+2BoM for damage

[narrow abyss]

Haha yeah yamo

[primal crypt]

And most furry warr are mongos

Dont wait for shit and die

[rich drift]

if we dont wanna die?

[primal crypt]

Then say WTF TNK

[narrow abyss]

Idk fury ain’t like that

[sick sentinel]

@rich drift DC and IF/bfi

[narrow abyss]

It’s not like arms

[rich drift]

aight

[primal crypt]

Arms is even worse

[narrow abyss]

Arms is so mongo with the WB spin and die

[primal crypt]

Yup

[rich drift]

had some issues on 4th boss in waycrest 16

[primal crypt]

Even I do that

[rich drift]

he hits fuckign hard

[primal crypt]

Lololol

[narrow abyss]

I only try to do it when I have DBTS

[primal crypt]

BLADESTORM OFF CD

TIME TO DIE

[narrow abyss]

But sometimes the pack is too juicy

[primal crypt]

yupppp

[narrow abyss]

INGOTTA SPIN

[steady fiber]

Btw how to get the Azerite trait DC ?

[narrow abyss]

Voldun emmisary

[steady fiber]

bcs if i get it right m+ dnt drop azerite

[rich drift]

thanks for the info tho @sick sentinel

[narrow abyss]

But I think emissary cache went away it’s all assaults now?

[ionic fern]

I got my DC from the RNG azerite vendor.

[narrow abyss]

I haven’t seen an emissary cache since 8.1

[steady fiber]

hmmm

so for DC i need just to pray for RNGJesus ?

i mean best way

[narrow abyss]

So really it’s hope for a voldun assault and pray

[steady fiber]

vendor or ?

[primal crypt]

all the DKs are out of commission LOL

[old zephyr]

for this tier yes Pkownzs you have to pray RNGsus

[ionic fern]

😦

I could swap one of the Gutrippers to Overwhelming power but i'm not sure if i wanna. 😒

[primal crypt]

@ionic fern nah

Just stay with the rippers

Op is good though

Pretty juicy

[rocky ledge]

@rich drift you can spell reflect the festering strike DoT. Use SR on every other and CD the ones in between

4th boss waycrest

[rich drift]

really

omegalul

imma fucking retard

thanks tho

[steady fiber]

Hmm what better azerite helm with DC ilvl 345 or without DC but 375 :/ ?

[uneven mason]

375

DC is ~15ilvls

[sick sentinel]

@rich drift I was midway to typing that, you spell reflect every other dot and use a CD for the ones you can't

[rich drift]

Aight tyvm for the info is new to prot so i got Kinda ripped in wm

+16 tho

[signal plover]

SR is a huge help in that instance

[rich drift]

Yeah

Necro is Hella lame tho

[uneven mason]

SR on tyrannical sisters +++ Here have a 250k bolt back to ya

*150k

[rich drift]

But only got rekt by lord wsycrest tho

Had a holy priest healing aswell

Yeah i for some reason didnt think sr would work om lord waycrest

Is there some dank prot warr streamer?

[signal plover]

Sense

[rich drift]

Where you can pick som stuff up

Aight gonna check him out then

[signal plover]

He's got some 15 key replays up from 8.0 I haven't been on his page in a bit tho

[rich drift]

Aah

[signal plover]

He's also active in here

Lala and Marok stream as well

I stream if u wanna watch 200 wipes on m ghuun

[rich drift]

I feel like prot might actually be viable now

Haha

Been there

Done that

[primal crypt]

viable

[old zephyr]

waiiiiiiiit.
You can prevent the dot to apply (on 4th manor boss) if you SR? Have I been doing that wrong the whole time?

[crimson sentinel]

Anyone got the alch trinket btw? how often does it proc?

[rich drift]

Well im a memelord i only play stuff No One else wants to play

[eager hedge]

Well then

Looks like shields can titanforge from new warfront

[ionic fern]

https://goo.gl/9oXvRK @old zephyr

[sick sentinel]

Is that a +40 forge?

[primal crypt]

Yup

340 to 380

There goes your luck for the rest of bfa

[eager hedge]

Yikes...

What the actual

[sick sentinel]

WHAT

IS THAT

[mellow quartz]

What about weapons though

Hopefully they finally fixed them to TF as well

[sick sentinel]

5,5 k block

[ionic fern]

Wait, did you loot a 380 one

And it put a 395 in your bag?

[eager hedge]

I got two

380 +40 titanforge from the warfront and 395 with socket from quest

[mellow quartz]

1 from quest and 1 from end of warfront?

[crystal creek]

that's nuts.

[mellow quartz]

K

[sick sentinel]

That's absolute BONKERS

[eager hedge]

Since when can shields titanforge tho?

[crystal creek]

Prolly be using that thing through H BfD 😛

[eager hedge]

If bugged in this specific warfront, can we get 395 weapons?

[primal crypt]

They must have skipped it

[sick sentinel]

I thought they couldn't

[mellow quartz]

Probably 8.1

[primal crypt]

In patch notes

[mellow quartz]

Dunno

[primal crypt]

Bfa all sorts of fucked up

[mellow quartz]

Man hope it works with weapons as well

[eager hedge]

Let me equip it and relog

[sand egret]

thats a Warforge

[eager hedge]

so it shows on armory

[sand egret]

oh snap the first one did! bruh go but a lotto ticket

[primal crypt]

Yup

Loots a 380

Then gets gifted a 395 socket

[eager hedge]

@smoky oak Your shield aint got shit on mine now 😄

[sand egret]

jesus mate, im over here trying to pawn off my warhouse of bracers like a desperate clearance sale

[mellow quartz]

And I got a stupid belt from the warfront 😦

[eager hedge]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/twisting-nether/Worldguard

To show its actually legit 😄

[sand egret]

it looks not awful too

[eager hedge]

Ay

[sand egret]

but grats!

[mellow quartz]

Wonder if this is a WF only thing

[crystal creek]

I got 5 ilvl upgrade bracers.

[sick sentinel]

I got some 385 boots

[crystal creek]

Could be worse I guess.

[sick sentinel]

Same

[old zephyr]

I got a crappy cloak

[sick sentinel]

Cloak monkaS

[crystal creek]

Should change that back to nothing.

[eager hedge]

Real question is tho

Actually, not even a question cus socket

new shield > ghuun 390 i guess

[sick sentinel]

How much block is 5,5k block?

[primal crypt]

Thats literally bis right now

Socket and 395

Maybe better with some haste, but that's not even an issue

[eager hedge]

I still have 1463 rating with new shield

[crystal creek]

think I'm packing 380 shield and 1h from AD, but ya that shield is dope.

[oblique garnet]

What a bad shield lul

[rocky ledge]

I was gifted a 390 AD mace last week from my cache, but still struggling to replace my 370 shield and trinkets.

I was praying for the new Knot trinket

No ❤

[sick sentinel]

Well you can get a new trinket

Or maybe Knot

[crystal creek]

knot this time around my friend.

[rocky ledge]

Been farming for a butchers block as well. I’m all aboard the crit train for M+

[sick sentinel]

I would farm rezans

[rocky ledge]

I have a 360, and I use it sometimes. I use a 370 lions crit use trinket and I love it with avatar and big pulls.

[mellow quartz]

Ahh that nice feeling of not only farming an item but a titan forged version of it 😃

[sick sentinel]

Aly that's me

I'm farming for a 380 or a 375

[rocky ledge]

I can have like 1400 haste passive on my gear and one of my azerite I run Blood Rite for the hast proc. I get way more value (for DPS) by using crit right now

[sick sentinel]

Why bloodrite though

[rocky ledge]

That or bloodsport

[sick sentinel]

Bloodsport is not bad

[rocky ledge]

Only 390 piece I have in that slot.

[sick sentinel]

In the slightest

[mellow quartz]

Some people don’t have 10 different versions of azerite lol

He wanted dps

[rocky ledge]

It’s 700 haste with 35% uptime in M+

It’s amazing

[sick sentinel]

I have been using a 390 bloodsport for the longest time and I have been missing it

Even though I replaced it with a 390 BoM now

[rocky ledge]

I use helm with bloodsport cause no other good iLvL piece

I have shit azerite

[sick sentinel]

Yeah, I understood that

[rocky ledge]

I’ll feel better with engi helm in a few weeks

[sick sentinel]

And I'm saying that BS is good

[crystal creek]

I don't have DC, tell me about poop.

[old zephyr]

Engi Helm and alchi trink 😃

gotta be great

[rocky ledge]

I’m doing both as well

[sick sentinel]

Same

[narrow abyss]

Engi and BS for me

[sick sentinel]

Maybe not trinket

[old zephyr]

who wouldn't want to amazing scaling items

[rocky ledge]

Anyone know the grow/shrink trait proc rate on the helm?

[old zephyr]

1,5 PPM

[sick sentinel]

I haven't been banking expolsum

[rocky ledge]

Duration of buff?

[old zephyr]

procs more haste that Str as far as I know

Proc Per minute

[mellow quartz]

I would use blood rite over bloodsport if I had the choice

For m+

[rocky ledge]

Yup

100%

[mellow quartz]

And probably raid as well

[crystal creek]

BS will take 110 expulsom to get 2 415 crafteds.

[rocky ledge]

Raid, BS is better I think and even single target

[old zephyr]

with rezan and Quick navigation it is mini BL when everything proc.
"Wait did a Retard PU just pop BL...
Oh no I'm just amazing =)"

[sick sentinel]

I used 50 for engineering follower item monkaS

[astral crystal]

Rip

[mellow quartz]

Rather have more haste and lower gcd and shield block downtime than a bit more absorb on IP

[oblique garnet]

You can just scrap the new gear you can make tho and get back your expulsoms

[sick sentinel]

Late I tried to ping you earlier

[crystal creek]

Oh does it give the expulsom back? I knew it gave cores.

[astral crystal]

3x bloodsport seems like it’ll be stronk though

[oblique garnet]

?

[sick sentinel]

You missed a troller that was arguing with a passion for

[mellow quartz]

It’s strong on its own but what about what else you could have had?

[old zephyr]

[sick sentinel]

Levko and yamo flipped out

[astral crystal]

That won’t be as much of an issue in s2

[uneven mason]

I missed a discussion on Ravager?

[sick sentinel]

Yeah

[astral crystal]

Second outer ring makes azerite traits way less restrictive

[steady fiber]

btw for prot warrior race gives allot or just meh?

[uneven mason]

what side?

[steady fiber]

ally

[mellow quartz]

Nothing else of value on same ring as bloodsport in s2?

[uneven mason]

Dwarf

or Dark Iron

[oblique garnet]

DiD

[steady fiber]

why DiD ? 😄

or the racial is OP as f

[uneven mason]

Because DoTs fuck us

and Dwarf racials eat DOTs

and buff you

[steady fiber]

hmmm

[uneven mason]

Dwarf is 10% Physical reduction - remove DOTs

DiD is remove DOTs and go SUper Sayan

[steady fiber]

now im thinking only like dwarf or DiD

btw can it remove necro stack ?

or that is not bleed

[oblique garnet]

Yes

It can

[steady fiber]

PogChamp race then

ez life on necro stacks

😄

[sick sentinel]

Also, late, did you know that shields can tittyforge

Worldguard just got a 340 titanforge to a 380

Shield

[oblique garnet]

yh i noticed

[steady fiber]

Holy F

340 to 380 ?

[oblique garnet]

pretty sure thats a bug tho

[sick sentinel]

And then he did the turn in

[old zephyr]

Nelf can also be a choice to do some skips without rogues

[sick sentinel]

395+s

[oblique garnet]

unless they made some undocumented changes

[eager hedge]

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/twisting-nether/Worldguard
No way it isnt a bug

[steady fiber]

but if it's bug, then we can call you an bug exploiter ? 🤔

[eager hedge]

🤔

[signal plover]

I alrdy reported and made a QQ post on blizz forums

[steady fiber]

Report him. Ez

[oblique garnet]

but the thing is the highest you can get atm is 395 with a socket

[signal plover]

I said he mained BDK and didn't deserve it too

[oblique garnet]

now if it had gone higher than that it would 100% be a bug

[steady fiber]

Whos D i must suck to get 395 with socket ?

[eager hedge]

New warfront

[sick sentinel]

Ion

[eager hedge]

Can confirm

[sick sentinel]

Suck his dick and tell him that warfronts are fun

[steady fiber]

but, warfronts are boring 😦

[uneven mason]

What were you turning in when you got it?

[junior ivy]

Who is helping me get hivemind this weekend lol

[uneven mason]

CAT?!

[junior ivy]

Hi :D

[sick sentinel]

Cat <3

[junior ivy]

Gotta go in to work in a min :(

But then I got 4 day weekend

[primal crypt]

YEAAAAA

Ezpz

[oblique garnet]

the new warfront wasnt bad

it went relatively fast

[sick sentinel]

What is the ppm of the alch trinket?

[primal crypt]

Not sure

I know it's really bad for dps though

For some

[undone vale]

how are people getting tidal cores right now?

[lusty grotto]

they aren't

[old zephyr]

they don't

[lusty grotto]

that's not the tidalcore trinket

hydrocore

[undone vale]

oh, i thought the 385 needed tidal

[lusty grotto]

no

[old zephyr]

I'll wait the core to start crafting my awesome gear

[undone vale]

nice

[lusty grotto]

all profs ilvl max are 385 with hydrocores

same with BS and belts/pants

[crystal creek]

I'm surprised they didn't add cores, not like you can craft over 385 without Breaths so eh

[undone vale]

ahh ty

i literally was making this lastnight and stopped being like tidalcore wtf? maybe just drunk

[lusty grotto]

that's because there's a tidalcore recipe for 385s that requires a shitload less mats

[undone vale]

👌

[lusty grotto]

well not for that same item specifically

which is why they didn't put tidalcores in beforehand

[old zephyr]

you'll need to craft the tidalcore one anyway to have the 400 and 415 receipes

[lusty grotto]

yep

[old zephyr]

I'm not bothering farming the expulsom for the 370 and 385 of 8.0 tier

[lusty grotto]

how do you even farm the expulsom

[eager hedge]

Hitting up blizz asking if intended change for offhands

Would be nice to know

[crystal creek]

do trinket WQ's or make 225 bracers and scrap them for a bout a 1/9 chance at explusom

[lusty grotto]

its retarded the stupid amount of it you need to get the t3 BS recipes

[crystal creek]

all trinkets scrap to expulsom

[lusty grotto]

which is why i never got em

hmmm 🤔

interesting

[old zephyr]

to farm expulsom, farm leather next to nesingwary

[lusty grotto]

thank god they also put expulsom WQs in too

[crystal creek]

also there's a new 5 expulsom quest (like the old fel lotus)

[old zephyr]

then craft crap and scrap it

[lusty grotto]

leather?

[sick sentinel]

Alchemist transmute

[crystal creek]

can be any craft.

[lusty grotto]

that's now though

[eager hedge]

Up to 359 for next tier. Gotta reroll for bis stats on bs gear

[sick sentinel]

what rank were you on ghuun kill speed? @eager hedge

[eager hedge]

When we killed it the first time?

[oblique garnet]

The 385 with tidalcore is the new 355 next season @lusty grotto it doesnt reguire less mats

[sick sentinel]

Yeah, like did you get famed slayer?

[eager hedge]

Oh no, im in a casual guild

[sick sentinel]

"Casual guild selling 8/8 boosts"

[eager hedge]

Yeah, pretty much

Ghuun is a joke

Makes no difference if youre 19 or 20 people

[lusty grotto]

for BS it does @oblique garnet

its 30 expulsoms vs 15 on the 385s

30 expulsoms on the 355

[oblique garnet]

no but what i mean is that its new baseline as in you make that and it upgrades into 400 and so on

[lusty grotto]

385

both are 385s

so yeah it does require less mats

here's the 355 version

[modern brook]

holy shit

Did you guys know purples have names?

I've been calling them [stat] over [stat] [slot] my whole life

[lusty grotto]

what do you call gridrunners, or syringe

GOTEM

[modern brook]

Mom-hat + trinket

"I got the trinket"

[lusty grotto]

mmmmm

[modern brook]

"my trinket does [effect]"

[lusty grotto]

its ok

its like my names for siege bosses

😃

[lapis wraith]

"First second third etc,."?

[uneven mason]

^^

which won't work because factions

[oblique garnet]

Jesus why are the alliance camping world quests

[crystal creek]

Because school is out for Christmas break.

[steady fiber]

Guys, im a retard if im thinking on changing race from worgen to Dwarf or DiD? 🤔

[modern brook]

no

Playing Worgen is the worst thing you could do

[lapis wraith]

^

[crystal creek]

Not really, their racials are amazing.

[modern brook]

Note: if you race change back to worgen after their model update

you're a dirty little bitch

[lapis wraith]

if you play a worgen i immediately consider you a furry.

[modern brook]

But to answer your question for real: DID racials are much better than worgen

that said

Save your cash till next week's affixes

and if you still are like I'd much rather have DID

then swap

[steady fiber]

thi

this is hard for next week ? :/

i gues ez mode

for prot

[lapis wraith]

i can't see anyone having an issue with that

any tank

[steady fiber]

only skittish can be

or bolstering if retarded dps

[silk mortar]

Its more about your group

[sick sentinel]

What is skittish

[steady fiber]

• agro

[silk mortar]

Dh popping cds before i even touch the mobs

Can get annoying ^^

[sick sentinel]

Is skittish an affix?

[steady fiber]

yea

for skittish i gues just rogue or hunt and ok mode

for agro

[silk mortar]

Okay Kage you've had your fun

[sick sentinel]

Oh my god you're not getting it

[steady fiber]

😄

[sick sentinel]

Nevermind

[steady fiber]

🤔 but what u want to say

[sick sentinel]

I said nevermind

[silk mortar]

;D

[sick sentinel]

What bull tried to say about the race change

Is that your thinking about it because of necrotic

If you still want to make the change without necrotic being a factor, only then do it

[steady fiber]

but im holding on race change only for the new race Kul-Tiran

dunno how the Brush It Off: Increase Versatility and regenerate a portion of damage taken. feel

[lapis wraith]

can we just. zandalari paladins are what race changes are really for.

[steady fiber]

wait ?

paladin ?

rly?

[lapis wraith]

yep

freal

[steady fiber]

How ?

wtf//?

[lapis wraith]

how is this not common knowledge?

[steady fiber]

hmmm

make tauren rogue

big invis cow behind mmm 😄

[sick sentinel]

Mag'har priest

Animations look silly AF

[lapis wraith]

i don't understand how the zandalari, the oldest trolls right

or is that wrong

can be paladins when they're totem loa-worshippers

[silk mortar]

Pretty sure that is wrong

[steady fiber]

No Idea

[oblique garnet]

I want tauren rogues to be a thing so i can name one Sneakybeef

[sick sentinel]

But can't be warlocks

[steady fiber]

Warlock zandalari would make more sense for me

then paladin

paladin is like wtf??? 😄

[lapis wraith]

the trolls were one of the first races, right? like the oldest race of non-old god or titan-forged things

but hey, worship the light.

[silk mortar]

After dranei

[lapis wraith]

i guess.

[silk mortar]

And technically gnomes and dwarves

[thorn mango]

if u played during cata u saw a version of zandalari paladins,warlocks were the toss up. and since its been basically confirmed that the zandalari dont practice in fel by the blues. well take it how u will

[lapis wraith]

yeah the zandalari were the earliest known trolls, i was right.

[uneven mason]

Yes they were

Well

[sick sentinel]

The trolls are basically elves that were exiled from the well of eternity

[uneven mason]

They were the "A#1" Tribe

of priests

[astral geyser]

They worshipped rezan a loa, not just the light generally. Now he's dead not sure what their source of power will be

[uneven mason]

Elves are Trolls who were banished from Zandalar

[lapis wraith]

^

[uneven mason]

Dark Trolls

[nova gale]

Their source of power will clearly be the Holy Trinity and Jesus Christ All-Mighty

[thorn mango]

moostick,i think they may incorperate that with their allied race questline.

[nova gale]

Hallelujah

[lapis wraith]

it's basically going to be a flood of troll paladins.

gg

[uneven mason]

Emanuel

[thorn mango]

@lapis wraith meh it'll be a 50/50 split,paladins and druids just cause of dino forms 😄

[lapis wraith]

i dont care what race i am anymore. i just play what makes sense. i'm a BE now for AT

i'll probably change again later for some other stupid reason

[thorn mango]

shit my warrior is a DI,i dont really care much for racials,i play the race cause i want too

[lapis wraith]

i use them for racials still. people say they dont matter but AT is super clutch in Zul and KR

🤷

[steady fiber]

AT?

[silk mortar]

Arcane torrent

[lapis wraith]

arcane torrent

[thorn mango]

arcane torent is basically an aoe shaman purge,usefull as all shit

[lapis wraith]

ye

and generates rage in a pinch

[drowsy relic]

idk i felt really healthy doing a 17 FH with ravager

[lapis wraith]

could be the one thing that gets your IP off in a pinch

[drowsy relic]

i wasnt getting many stacks so I could pump good dps

had 13k overall

[sand egret]

heh....stacks

[stable pier]

hows prot warrior looking after the 8.1 buffs?

[oblique garnet]

Arcane torrent is useful on basically every m+ dungeon

And prot warrior is looking good

[meager sluice]

Prot is godly@

[oblique garnet]

Strongest dps class in the game imo

[stable pier]

lol

[drowsy relic]

i think next week if we can run prot war with a blood dk we can push alot of keys no meme

[silk mortar]

Cant deny

[meager sluice]

Regularly beat at least 1 dumb ass in dps on high keys

And when it’s a mage I omega lol

[stable pier]

feelsbad memecity

[oblique garnet]

This week you cant bring out the potential without boomkin tho

[meager sluice]

Prot warriors rise up

[lapis wraith]

unless you're terrible^

then stay down

[old zephyr]

or you plan on using meme talent

[meager sluice]

Our blood dk mt wants to go prot now for next raid

[old zephyr]

50% Party

[lapis wraith]

i stay in the middle-bottom of everything i play. never rise above damnit

stay mediocre

set the bar low

[thorn mango]

lol

[oblique garnet]

nah if you arent aiming for the best at what you do whats the point?

[lapis wraith]

seeing how little i can do and get kills

🤷

[meager sluice]

You can be drunk and tank nowadays

Dps is the differentiation

So prot is god

[lapis wraith]

the real reason is cause I pretend to know how to tank but I don't tank at a 95% level. just like a 40-60

[old zephyr]

be sure to be a monk if you want to drunktank

[eager hedge]

Is shields counted as armor or weapon?

[lapis wraith]

off-hands

[meager sluice]

Off hand p

[eager hedge]

So technically weapon?

[oblique garnet]

yh

Thats why it shouldnt be able to titanforge

[eager hedge]

Ait, just had some "knowitall" guy write otherwise on my post 😂

[old zephyr]

shield shouldn't be able to TF, they are to important to Prot (maybe pal as well) that a good proc can just have you become top tier even if you can't press buttons

[lapis wraith]

sounds like my kinda cheese