The warrior is more fun imo
#protection
thorn ocean
For sure, I never meant to imply they weren't
oblique garnet
Theres couple of bosses where dk is better
thorn ocean
Just that BDK is not unviable
uneven mason
Never said they were
but they are really hurting
btw saying "they're below bears"
isn't saying they're not viable
mellow quartz
I haven’t really touched my bdk in 2 weeks other than M ghuun prog nights and every time I log on him it’s sooo boring vs playing my warrior....
uneven mason
Tanks while we have a "ranking" of them
were not horribly far apart in Uldir
mostly with the difference being what extras they could bring
thorn ocean
lol @mellow quartz I'm honestly in the same boat, I got my Warrior from 360 to 380 and am pushing 14/15 keys now but I still do progression on my BDK
uneven mason
BrM stood out as brainless and forgiving
so that got the meta sticker
do they require that much less EHRPS? No, not really
mellow quartz
When people talk about tank rankings for next tier they talk about the first 2-3 weeks when you are still under geared
uneven mason
its just that there is no gaps in their AM
Monks wil lALWAYS reduce damage
with no input from the player
thorn ocean
yeah I have no desire to play a monk, I think the playstyle looks unfun
thorn ocean
I have a 385 BDK and 380 PRW, and if both were unviable I'd probably level up my 110 Paladin to 120
uneven mason
but the fact that I know that the difference between tanking like a god and tanking like a blind chimp
is 18%
made it undoable
mellow quartz
@uneven mason I know what you are saying but other classes also mitigate without doing anything.
Obviously not on the same level
uneven mason
well yeah, but awarrior doing noting
thorn ocean
do you think PRW will see better representation in M+?
mellow quartz
My warrior who is 10 ilvl under my DK has 3k more armor just flat number.
thorn ocean
that as keys get higher the damage and physical mitigation will start to shine more at all?
manic perch
just crafted my engineering head, any suggestions on traits?
uneven mason
well 19% now
mellow quartz
Yep
thorn ocean
max health isn't so important though, and can be a hinderance once you're past the critical level on % health-based mechanics
uneven mason
But I'll tell ya
healing a BDK who doesn't use AM
is the worst thing to run into as a healer
doing dugeons on my shaman
I ran into a BDK who thought all they had todo was "be a BDK"
mellow quartz
Health is EHP so more is always better really.
thorn ocean
@mellow quartz I meant in M+ with things like quaking and bursting
uneven mason
it doesn't matter
thorn ocean
having excess HP puts a strain on the healer
uneven mason
0_o
Not really
the BDK is going to heal that extra portion himself
Druids have a lot of healt hand have bonus healing
mellow quartz
What do you mean hp doesn’t matter
uneven mason
"Tanking models" ERMAHGAWD
mellow quartz
That is just plain ignorant
uneven mason
It does and it does not
so EHP is a solid metric right, how long you can live without external intervention
mellow quartz
It doesn’t if you focus on it by cutting out something else
thorn ocean
It's better to have EHP based on mitigation than raw HP when it comes to effective healing received
mellow quartz
But every bit you have helps
uneven mason
however, a warriors EHP is smaller, but we require in general, less external intervention (out tanking model)
this is what makes us fantastic and bad at once.
uneven mason
why would you do that though
mellow quartz
I am by no means saying focus on it over other things
But saying it doesn’t matter is just not true
uneven mason
As a warrior why would you not, mitgate the magic damage hehe 😄
right our short EHP only matters when we don't do anything
EHP is mor or less can be grasped as "the forgiveness number"
how forgiving is it whne you fuck the poodle and don't play properly
mellow quartz
It’s kinda a pointless discussion anyway since your health is what it is
You are going highest ilvl anyway
So you don’t really control it
tribal fox
how muhc % block chance are 400stat block?
uneven mason
I was just explaining what I meant by HP matters, and HP doesn't matter
mastery is block %
fast garnet
Is having a second deafening crash worthless? Just got a deafening crash from the residuum vendor
oblique garnet
Dont you just love it when the first boss in atal bugs out and you get eaten half way across the fucking map
uneven mason
but it doesn't add more extension
steel mauve
Its not worthless but there are better options as a second trait, i would still take it if its a higher ilvl than your other pieces
uneven mason
1 DC 1 BOM 1 BFI/IF (Or 2 BoM)
tribal fox
so what give me this?
uneven mason
it increases how much you block for.
steel mauve
The amount of dmg you block not the chance...
uneven mason
its a stat based on your shield
tribal fox
so i get 151 less dmg if i block?
steel mauve
No
uneven mason
you get 151 block (its basically like armor)
fast garnet
Is it worth taking Tradewinds over a second deafening then?
steel mauve
We have an equation to turn block into the % dmg blocked
tribal fox
ok and can i find any stat thats telling me if it is worth taking it or not? xD
steel mauve
Its not a 1 to 1 ratio
uneven mason
it scales same as armor
tribal fox
im confused x/
uneven mason
erm
steel mauve
400 block in mythic/mythic + would basically block .053% more dmg
sand egret
John, simply if you look at our character sheet and highlight the bottom, "Block" stat. Go hit a dummy with shield slam and look at it again
tribal fox
ok ty 😃
sand egret
you'll see the mitigation % increases. Highlight your mastery
then see that is a % increase to chance
steel mauve
Make sure its a specific dummy, since all 4 difficulties of content have different degrees of k value
sick sentinel
so , update on earlier even though nobody cares about it
sand egret
irrelevant
sick sentinel
kings rest 14 was easy
sick sentinel
I got totally fucked by manor 14 though
steel mauve
He will see a change but it would still be a different value from normal to heroic uldir
sand egret
the guy didn't wanna know bout K values, but rather what the stat represents. You ain't wrong, but it's a bit more than what he was looking for =0
sand egret
the key distinction was Block chance = mastery. Block stat (from shield and traits) = how much a block, blocks
yw John
mellow quartz
How did you get fucked in Waycrest kage?
ember arrow
In the back alley
primal crypt
@oblique garnet Unstable over globs? globs is super underwhelming
sand egret
gobs sucks
primal crypt
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
sick sentinel
I got fucked because the druid that we had the last run and was soothing properly, could not sooth most of the stuff in there
And enraged magic cleave hurts
sand egret
what else can you soothe in WM aside from the thornguards?
OH raging
ignore me
yeah, that's gotta blow
sick sentinel
Haven't depleted a key yet tho
Also in the kings rest we had an Spriest and he PUMPED
sand egret
New Warrior Ability:
Consume Rage: Consume all Enrage effects within 10 yards and become Enraged, increasing damage and attack speed by 10% because fuck it we're the only ones who can be angry, damnit.
uneven mason
Menace - Removed
Show Dominance - Intimidating shout no longer fears targets but instead removes all enrage effects and Immunties on up to 5 targets.
👏
400IQ fix
sand egret
I actually really like that
tbh, i'd even suggest that immunities could be replaced by magic buffs and it'd be a-ok
Menace: Replaces Intimidating Shout - Apply Menace to all enemies within 8 yards of the target, interrupting the next spell casted.
sand egret
eh, I'm hesitant about it being a flat silence
sick sentinel
Wait what? P were gets soothe now?
stoic pilot
Didn't see anything relating to this in the pins considering it's an older questions, but any recommended legendaries for prot leveling 110-120? Only able to use one since I just leveled this from scratch but was curious if there was anything crazy useful for prot
dusty tangle
bracers prob
sand egret
not for prot...but 3x heroic leap
is king for leveling
leap around gather all mobs > kill quest in one pull
stoic pilot
Oh boy, that does sound pretty fun.
sand egret
also makes indoor areas
cinder nova
Honestly I just want a non RNG mastery
sand egret
wayy easier
cinder nova
Idgaf about traits
sick sentinel
Oh, okay, well I had a question, do you think it is a good idea to macro shield block then shield slam for the extra dmg?
sand egret
NOPE
cinder nova
I wouldn't
sand egret
baaaad idea
cinder nova
Holy shit we agree on something
sand egret
that just puts you at risk for not having shield block when ya need it=)
cinder nova
Xmas miracle
sick sentinel
Alright just wanted to make sure a guilty suggested I do that and my initial reaction was no because you need to save it for when it is necessary
sand egret
that is the correct reaction
other than a slight chuckle to yourself
trust me, we don't need any extra stuff or our dps...we're quite fine in that department haha
astral crystal
wow bladesong stop posting fake notes :^)
sick sentinel
30k shield slam crit in a heroic for tank bag is pretty funny ill admit
sand egret
hey Mac's was formatted far more legit than mine haha
sick sentinel
Since we are making up shit though bring back mocking banner or whatever it was in cata that allowed us to mass taunt at range, I mean monks basically have that
sand egret
forced melee is a really neat design that actually doesn't exist currently
primal crypt
😐
nice fake notes
came back and had to google shit
Thanks guys.
Realized they weren't real
primal crypt
primal crypt
the dream
oblique garnet
oh damn bosses leave necrotic more frequently now
sweet kettle
It shouldn't be a problem in most bosses
willow fractal
ello all i just joined the disc...so I am a mage main but i am going to half to swap to tank for my guild cause our current tanks are not cutting it...so I have a low lvl warrior tank that I like very much but I do need to be the MT for my guild for raiding ..if you was going to make a main tank for raiding would warrior be your first choice for uldir and the new raid coming on jan.22? just asking for peoples input and opinion's on what tank to make
mental scarab
We can take a hit thats for sure
plain ice
play what you enjoy m8
signal plover
Warrior would be my choice
oblique garnet
same
willow fractal
tbh i want to play a warrior i alrdy have a DH tank but i dont feel like they make the best raid tanks with the lack of cooldowns
primal crypt
Warrior for sure
signal plover
I've played bdk and monk casually throughout the tier and they just feel boring to me
We have the most CDs
ember arrow
Free abrodus
signal plover
We are the mitigation tank
stark sage
abortus
@willow fractal every tank can work right now the balance is decent. it comes down to what you like and how well you can play it
stark sage
😭
ember arrow
plain ice
pour one out for our friend
sand egret
@oblique garnet on Gorak since death lens can be interrupted, there’s probably a chance they got in more autos on you which could have lead to higher stacks. AFAIK the two changes to necrotic were magic > phys and that the dot scales with modifiers on the mob that applied it
modern brook
@sand egret were u the one trying to tell me bear wasnt fucking boring?
sand egret
maybe? i dont find it so
modern brook
How come ur argument didnt begin and end with u can play rogue at the same time
modern brook
cat weaving is dope af
not very good in M+ sure
but ive never wanted to raid this hard before
sand egret
nope!
modern brook
its sick af
willow fractal
any mechanics in the new raid that warriors excel at?
modern brook
note i actually dont know if thats true
And to expand on @sand egret 's point: the list of blockable spells in the pins has been updated w/ the new raid
mellow quartz
@sand egret thought you meant like raging etc
mellow quartz
Nothing changed with that
sand egret
not sure if its a static or dynamic modifier
mellow quartz
It’s just the fort and tyrannical modifiers
sand egret
ook cool, that is way easier. If it was dynamic then there's like....Demo Shout affecting it and what not which would totally be weird haha
willow fractal
@modern brook where do i find list of blockable spells in the new raid?
sand egret
it's in the pins
if you're on pc, top right corner
if on mobile, click the channel, then it should be in a sub menu.
it also has the answers to like 90% of the questions that will probably arise as well
sand egret
yeah, true true
modern brook
first word on the pin is "Guides" if that helps
willow fractal
found it thank you bull
sand egret
best of luck mate
willow fractal
yea your write lots of in the pins never knew about that feature in disc lol
modern brook
we should pin how to access the pins
sand egret
yep, there is a TON of good info in there
willow fractal
yea i had no idea been using disc for years
sand egret
well, this channel is pretty good about information collecting
it's also why we love slamming the 
emote 😃
ember arrow
modern brook
we also really just need a "nah" post pinned
for when ppl ask if prot is any better in 8.1
modern brook
yeah thats p good
If u gotta ask if 8.1>8.0, you didnt understand the problems we had in 8.0
-> 8.1 prot is still to big brained for ur smol brain
qed
sand egret
ooo i totally forgot to share this, but I had a first-time ever experience last night. A Rogue in my pug legit got mad when the healer was joking making fun of the dps since I was recking the meters on trash. "Prot is just a faceroll class. Look all his damage is on TClap. Anyone can do that"
Healer: "But he's also tanking...and quite well at that"
sand egret
then it was just a pigpile on that rogue for the rest of the run
willow fractal
i always heard warriors was the worst tanks in 8.0 but no one i talked to could ever say why...what was the reason for the bad rap for warrior tanks?
sand egret
healer just going into cat form talking shit about passing the rogue
modern brook
@willow fractal honestly bad players
sand egret
iron, that is quite a long story
modern brook
and a bit of gear dependency
uneven mason
ember arrow
@sand egret top 10 anime storylines
modern brook
lol
primal crypt
sand egret
my short answer would be: Prot fundamentally requires a different mindset to play (proactive vs reactive) and given the overall tank shift away from the gods tanks were in Legion, there were a lot of warriors not playing correctly. Prot, also being quite the punishing class, doesn't play nicely with mistakes which lead to wipes > bad rep, etc. @willow fractal that's only a piece of it, but perception played a huge part
haha Levko, it woulda been a Top 10 storyline if at the end it turns out the Rogue was actually me from an alternate timeline
mellow quartz
Not a lot of people played prot either
uneven mason
Fixed
mellow quartz
So people didn’t see them much
modern brook
Prot is also very unique in how it mitigates damage, outside of a proactive playstyle
ie: no armor steroids, very cooldown centric, our upkeep mitigation (ip) is sorta buns
modern brook
so coming from ME STACK BONES THEN HEAL MANY! to planning your CD's around an encounter
sand egret
yeah, that's way too many words for a bdk
modern brook
hoenstly still mad its blood and not bone dk
sand egret
then it'd be Bonedk
ember arrow
@sand egret funny you said that. Tjey just posted a much longer post on using death strike
sand egret
nice
ember arrow
Well yes. But boiling it down like that isnt really what it was about
modern brook
there are like 0 instances in wow where absolutely maximizing something is better than just understanding the concept of what you're trying to do
not to say it doesnt improve throughput
uneven mason
BDK Is not the faceroll tank
lets not loose focus here
Monks are faceROLL
(literally)
BDK actually takes planning
but ou plan to be reactive
modern brook
planning to be reactive is definitely the college student solution tbh
ember arrow
Took a few months since bfa launched
uneven mason
Oh I've always gotten it
I just like Memeing at SKILLSTORM in M+
just like the BDK I raid with likes to MEME about my self healing
But there isn't a huge skill gap
ember arrow
---> top dps
uneven mason
its just a different playstyle
Like, Prot is alien because all the other tanks are more or less a mix of proactive/reactive
while prot is just - think ahead or die.
sand egret
every other tank has 1 proactive and 1 reactive mitigation tool
uneven mason
rather our EHP is high enoug hnow its think ahead or OOM your healers
sand egret
prot has 2 proactives
keen spire
I'd argue that LS is reactive though
uneven mason
while BDK/Monk do not
uneven mason
and VDH/Paladin ahve shorter gaps and reactive tools to deal with them
keen spire
but not our Active mit by any means
uneven mason
Key to prot - If you're doing it right, LS is proactive
keen spire
I mean yes
sand egret
you can use it reactively yeah, but specifically im talking about "AM" in the way blizz designs it
uneven mason
but yeah it can be reactive emergency
sand egret
in their terms, cooldowns are not am
sand egret
im talking about specifically is:
Pally: SotR and LotP (or is it Hand?)
DK: Boneshield and DS
DH: Demon Spikes and Soul Cleave
Bear: Ironfur and FR
Monk: Ironskin and Purify
keen spire
Time to reroll Guardian, boys
ember arrow
Bs isnt metigation
sand egret
lol
sick sentinel
the core gameplay on almost all tanks is still “have something up before you get hit if you don’t want to die” it’s just that warrior doesn’t have anything reactive
ember arrow
Yea 15% less
keen spire
Get rekt, Levko
sick sentinel
and I’d argue that prot has two proactive elements in both SB and IP
keen spire
^
sand egret
haha
keen spire
That's what Blade said
sand egret
we are unique that both are proactive
keen spire
Special snowtanks
sand egret
hahaha
sick sentinel
sure, but you can use IP reactively and you don’t usually need it to survive an EHP check
sick sentinel
yes
sick sentinel
not arguing there
keen spire
IP being used reactively is not smart
uneven mason
@ember arrow I'd argue that even without the armor
keen spire
It's essentially useless in that regard
uneven mason
Boneshield is mitigation for BDK because 10% haste leads to higher volume of DS
sand egret
i'm speaking specifically from design pov that IP is meant to be proactive
keen spire
get double rekt, levko
worthy dagger
uneven mason
i is
keen spire
ayoooo
sand egret
ITF siiick mitigation
keen spire
ye dawg
sand egret
but real talk, love that talent
stuck oxide
You guys are dog
keen spire
are yall still gonna main prot warrior in 8.1?
sand egret
duhh
keen spire
Now that we aren't the community underdog?
sand egret
i still got a bear alt
stuck oxide
I did in 8.0 and i will i 8.1
ember arrow
Play ehats better
astral crystal
going bdk now since i thrive on being called shit
keen spire
Fuck yeah
sand egret
looool
stuck oxide
Im also 8/8 mythic for a while now
keen spire
Get it, Atticus
sand egret
just a huge flood of Prot into BDK-dom "Yo, heard you guys are getting flack....and I missed that so I came over here"
keen spire
xD
oblique garnet
nah im just gonna reroll bear
sand egret
underbear
stuck oxide
BDK still best mythic + tank
sand egret
not after I get Preach to get a clickbait vvideo out saying they're trash so everyone will stop inviting them
keen spire
I think voidwalkers are the best mythic+ tank - Change My Mind
sand egret
they are plump
keen spire
Yo blade for real though, how do you like the bear vs. prot?
sand egret
uh, they're very diff but I like the change of pace
sand egret
my bear is also not nearly as geared yet so I'm still suffering the woes of that
keen spire
Do you fuck around with the other druid specs?
sand egret
i play feral randomly
keen spire
I've been considering rerolling to druid for this tier, just to change it up
I always play my prot warrior
sand egret
always was a fan of platespinning
druids are fun to me because when they can pull off a sick move, it's flashy as fuck
ursol's > typhoon > shift + Swiftmend
super gratifying to me
keen spire
Ah, the ol push'n'pull with the Shift'n'Swift
sand egret
or as @modern brook and I were talking earlier, catweaving is hella fun in raids
keen spire
Yeah, that versatility is the best part of druids
And if you're really good at it, you can totally do those flashy moves
sand egret
yeah, that fantasy part always jived with me
sand egret
im also a big fan of the werebear skin
keen spire
Yee
keen spire
Dude I busted my ass to get that thing as soon as it was available
I think I tried like 300 times
sand egret
i literally made a druid in legion specifically to get the RBG tint
sand egret
ended up doing it without any legendaries
keen spire
hell yeah
sand egret
felt so accomplished
keen spire
the #real challenge mode
sand egret
but yeah, as Prot you're no stranger to bad perception, but druid is very fun to play (personally speaking) and I wouldn't be surprised if bears get more buffs in the future to look forward to
sand egret
as a bear still stuck with a 345 weapon, yeah mate.
keen spire
hahaha
sand egret
but this is probably too much non-Prot talk
sand egret
you aint' wrong
keen spire
Prot discord is way cooler
modern brook
but because of the stuff
keen spire
So many chill peeps
modern brook
bear rotation is SNORE
keen spire
I'd argue that most "rotations" in general are pretty snore
keen spire
@modern brook We just missed you
sand egret
im honestly under the impression that if they made swipe and thrash not basically the same animation it would feel better. It's how I feel about TClap and Revenge
modern brook
at like 4-5+ you stop mangling
otherwise its just thrash on CD, procs as they come up
keen spire
Like, Fury warr's rotation is fun because it's fast af, but it's the same like 4 buttons over and over
sand egret
the half-second build up to stomp and revenge in the anim is 👌
keen spire
Beast Mastery is literally four buttons
modern brook
Nah its not simplicity its lack of variety
Regardless of scenario you will always be doing the same thing as bear
sand egret
i think it's lack of interactivity between abilities, personally
keen spire
I'd argue it's the same thing for both those examples I gave
keen spire
True, true
sand egret
at least were back on warriors 😃
modern brook
never played a hunter
modern brook
I cant do RDPS
keen spire
idk man hunters bore the fuck out of me
modern brook
ive considered playing surv
sand egret
i can only play MM cuz i cant stand pet classes
keen spire
@sand egret More like "at least we're not talking about BDK"
modern brook
but i know its only good in the content i want cause of OP traits i imagine will get nerfed come 815
so im waiting for that
keen spire
Survival is actually fun
I have to admit
I played most of the beta as a surv hunter
thought I'd main it
then I played prot warrior and was like nah
I'm playing my warrior
lol
sand egret
then the shield called
modern brook
im tryna clap
sand egret
first char I leveled to 120 was my MM hunter. Think I did a warfront and was like....I want to play my warrior
keen spire
which has been a nice change of pace
LOL
Nice
MM was always my favorite spec for hunters
modern brook
dude
sand egret
only one ill play
modern brook
Prot Warfronts are BROKEN
keen spire
I played an infiltrator in Mass Effect
modern brook
I pulled like 120K total dps
sand egret
oh man when you get that Storm Buff
modern brook
i got it 3 times lol
sand egret
pretty sure it likes to select tanks
modern brook
I AM THE ONE WHO CLAPS
sand egret
i always get it on my chars when im in tank specs
keen spire
👏
modern brook
i think its based off of numbers
daring marlin
zul is such a fun fight
modern brook
100%
keen spire
How do you make the text blocked out like that bull
daring marlin
🤣
modern brook
`
sand egret
this?
modern brook
now you can be like me and abuse this like its rhianna to your Chris Brown
sand egret
well, guess tanks do pull insane numbers in that spot. makes sense
sand egret
anyone else have the guilty pleasure of letting other tanks take a world/warfront boss then just trying to rip threat off of them
plain ice
YES
modern brook
i count the # of times other tanks taunt off me
keen spire
Like.. demo/avatar/trinket
stark sage
i played that game back in legion on high command
plain ice
it's a fun game
stark sage
i would wipe a lot
keen spire
No more threat for you, other tank
sand egret
haha when you see that taunt happen
wide girder
prot warrs are easy, just faceroll for clapping
sand egret
its such a win
wide girder
(c)
plain ice
that's typically my goal
keen spire
Prot warrs are easy, but they have a depth to master that is satisfying, imo
Also, hello lurkers
hotdamn
lol
sand egret
someone kicked the nest
keen spire
It was you, Blade
modern brook
^
plain ice
was pugging mythic mother last night and the DH offtank (he insisted on having 2 tanks...) was like - if you main tank the boss, i'm going to rip threat off you. i was like bro.. wut
ember arrow
Warfronts
modern brook
laughs in avatar
uneven mason
Getting aggro is easy
sand egret
hahah Crum, shoulda put some gold down on that
plain ice
dude, i was going to
uneven mason
beating the prot paladin on healing meters is where the true challenge lies
keen spire
LOL
ember arrow
uneven mason
GOIN 3x BLOODSPORT IV WHOS WITH ME BOYS
sand egret
i couldnt do that
plain ice
parsed 96% on that fight
plain ice
go, levko, go
modern brook
cause the donation drive is retarded and dumb and i pay for that
sand egret
TEAM BLOODSPORT @uneven mason
uneven mason
Prot paladins make me think of that part in Legion
keen spire
uneven mason
where you kill Velen's son
modern brook
I am team bloodsport
keen spire
xD
uneven mason
"IT MAKES MUSIC WHEN YOU BEAT IT"
ember arrow
Who cares. Noone wants shitty warfronts
modern brook
UHHH LADY SYLVANAS CARES
oblique garnet
We had to switch me to mt because i would overaggro on every boss in uldir
ember arrow
And her sjw cuck
keen spire
Tyrande cares now too
ember arrow
Nathanos' writer
modern brook
@oblique garnet nothing triggers me more than pulling off my cotank
keen spire
Same @oblique garnet
ember arrow
@sand egret "this dogturd smells slightly better"
keen spire
I joined a diff guild halfway through the tier
And they were like "we'll trial you as OT for a few raids"
oblique garnet
Nothing like entire voidlash hitting the guild because i ripped aggro
stark sage
failing trial because you rip aggro too much
sand egret
this is the first time this expansion...that you're making me actually want to raid....
just to do that
sand egret
oof that means joining a guild and shit
oblique garnet
Our rl was tanking with me on mythrax as a dk and he realized the frustration my cotank had
keen spire
I'm alliance scum too
modern brook
😠
oblique garnet
I was camped by alliances today on flightpath
keen spire
Doin' the Lord's work
modern brook
Did alliance get their I'm a big fat baby buff to war mode yet?
oblique garnet
Took about 2 minutes to get 40 man horde group to steamroll all of the allies
sand egret
that is basically still back in like MoP progression
oblique garnet
Yes they did
modern brook
some bull
uneven mason
bull we've been at 30% since it got put in
I'm loving it
world PVP is pretty amazing right now
oblique garnet
It switches based on weekly tho right?
sand egret
no, it's based on the current ratio
oblique garnet
Ye exactly
oblique garnet
It might switch once a week
sand egret
:fireblood:
oblique garnet
Like they base it off that
keen spire
Manduin
modern brook
im surrounded by lesser beings
uneven mason
haha TFW you realize that the carebears now have more metal races than the monsters
modern brook
also RE: wpvp
keen spire
Also the nelves are getting pretty hardcore
uneven mason
World PVP is pretty amazing
modern brook
My favorite thing to do is to kill AFK allies and get 16 HONOR
very flavorful for the exp imo
sand egret
I'd be sad about not being Horde....but honestly I used Fireblood to shed that emotion so /shrug
uneven mason
I've been capping conquest offa the assaults
keen spire
rofl
oblique garnet
I leave allies be as long as they dont interfere with me
uneven mason
half my guild has gotten the Horde Slayer title this week
keen spire
Bring it on
oblique garnet
I dont care if i have to chase them down the entire zone
modern brook
imagine being on the worst team so you can fireblood something you should be ignoring
keen spire
I lead war mode raid parties
ivory oxide
Prot pvp is sorta fun
uneven mason
That being said, a Demon Hunter tried to get away from me
keen spire
Prot PVP is THE SHIT
uneven mason
he found out what Barbarian is
keen spire
DRAGON CHARGE
uneven mason
I was fury
shell depot
yo boys, so i get to tank out of the blue , hit me with what traits i should roll
ivory oxide
Lol
oblique garnet
@keen spire i spent 2 hours denying alliances from returning the assault world quests by killing them on their spawn only because i got killed by 5 man hivemind unit twice
modern brook
Angry monkey chases batman downa cliff, more at 11 - Alliance Horde News Network
keen spire
Deafening Crashx1, Archivex2 if you're in raid @shell depot
HAhahahahaha
Fuck yeah, Late
That's the spirit
uneven mason
@modern brook best part
oblique garnet
@shell depot deafening crash, bfi and archive for raid
keen spire
OR that^
shell depot
ty bros
keen spire
I roll with 2 Archives because of gear availability
modern brook
I'm honestly also a huge fan of killing 110-113's and being added for some variation of a Oh you think you're a big man don't you
keen spire
which fields?
uneven mason
I look like this
sand egret
solid question
oblique garnet
Mac
sand egret
Hillsbrand
oblique garnet
Thats not a shield
uneven mason
and I eat people all day in PVP
sand egret
doing it old school
daring marlin
@keen spire getting hardcore?
uneven mason
I only prot pvp if I'm with a crew
oblique garnet
Turn in your badge
modern brook
^ v true
uneven mason
they're literally a walking 2nd wind
keen spire
@daring marlin True, true
sand egret
but setting up a big ol' Mortal Strike then swapping to an unsuspecting victim is great
modern brook
"Winds 1 through 86"
uneven mason
mmhmm
I also love the netomatic
for Darkshore PVP
sure I don't get the HKs
but that was a lot of dead horde
oblique garnet
If i see fury warriors trying to wpvp vs me ill just pull some mobs and it turns into war of attrition that he cant win
modern brook
Keep it up Mac
uneven mason
😄
modern brook
Thats how u get saurfang to triple cross you
uneven mason
I was horde
modern brook
I'm 100% positive that the story line of BFA will be based on Honor/Kill ratio over wow's population
uneven mason
My main from legion, forever 110, until Sylvanas is gone
sand egret
haha
modern brook
eugh
oblique garnet
Sylvanas did nothing wrong
modern brook
hunch -> bad beard -> pony tail -> no shoulders
oblique garnet
Aint nothing wrong with getting some timber for winter
modern brook
16 honor plz
uneven mason
0_o so its better to have a clipping bear, clipping chin, clipping shoulders, and clipping hair?
modern brook
I'm going to bully you no matter what, if we're being honest
daring marlin
the virgin orc
uneven mason
"Straight back Orc are made from jello because when something sets on them it just kind've melds in"
modern brook
I cant deal with the hunch on plate tbh
Ur shoulders are so big
and ur hunch so hunchy
you just look headless from behind
uneven mason
But still, I haven't logged him in
don't wan't to taint his taint with Sylvanas stink
modern brook
Now that elune has forsaken the horde
I decided to give my druid a fair shake
so we're fundementally different people, i think, mac
uneven mason
My druid is 120~
modern brook
Also Late is right: Sylv did nothing wrong
uneven mason
Black eye'd Night elves, Greek Mythology at its best
She's been doing everything right
I Just don't like her (never have)
modern brook
EW
uneven mason
god no
oblique garnet
I cant wait to get dissapointed that we arent killing jaina
modern brook
My favorite point in events so far
uneven mason
But Jaina at least looks like an appropriately superhero, who needed no retcons for her Mary sueing
ember arrow
@modern brook jaina is only good for rule 34 content. Change my mind
uneven mason
Sylvanas on the other hand they've been like NO LOOK SHE"S BEEN A CARTOON VILLAN THE WHOLE TIME!
modern brook
is when Jaina captures the champion of the horde ,2 racial leaders of the horde, in addition to two prisoners being kept in MAXIMUM SECURITY
oblique garnet
@ember arrow amen
uneven mason
"Totally planned the wrath gate on purpose"
modern brook
she just lets u go
cause her town is on fire
as if they require the most powerful archmage to put out a fire
uneven mason
TBH I went Alliance cause my wife wanted me too
modern brook
mistake
uneven mason
and I had originaly planned to go pure casual
oblique garnet
Gotta admit the warbringers jaina song is pretty good
uneven mason
it just so happened that the storyline ended up being better on alliance
this time around
oblique garnet
I wanted to play casual aswell
modern brook
more like waterbringer am i right?
uneven mason
and yeah, the warbringers song had a little todo with it
Sylvanas warbringers was dumpsterfire
modern brook
cause u know she coulda ended the whole fucking war before it started
oblique garnet
It lasted like a month because every guild just disappeared after ghuun died
Now im with actually promising guild that has the change to get CE every tier
daring marlin
Only one Warchief for me.
oblique garnet
Unlike the others
daring marlin
Garrosh Hellscream, baby.
uneven mason
^^
I'd go back to Horde if Garrosh was brought back
I mean
Also Thrall, but not Shaman bead Thrall
keen spire
^
uneven mason
Like, I'ma level Durnhold keep
oblique garnet
Man i miss thrall
modern brook
EH
uneven mason
That thrall
modern brook
Thrall was a nerd
uneven mason
he was
keen spire
You just like her banshee titties
daring marlin
Bring back Garrosh
keen spire
She didn't kill Varian
modern brook
Rest of the alliance? soon to follow
daring marlin
Make it happen, Bolvar!
uneven mason
Trying to think of anything Sylvanas has actually killed
keen spire
xD
daring marlin
Sylvanas is garbo
uneven mason
but outside of Arthas's sister
modern brook
Yall crazy
keen spire
Can't even kill the wolfman
dusk locust
she had a bunch of her own people killed in a recent book
uneven mason
she hasn't killed shit
modern brook
Sylv is baller
keen spire
she didn't even kill her!
modern brook
shes go the pew pew gun
daring marlin
Garrosh got shit done
daring marlin
😃
oblique garnet
@dusk locust necessary sacrifice
modern brook
honestly though
dusk locust
i mean that's pretty bad
daring marlin
LOL MAC
dusk locust
lol
quartz lake
Dumb question inc.
uneven mason
I mean
uneven mason
Anduin is pretty solid at getting his people killed too
neon tangle
They obviously just brought the HOtS version of sylvanas to WoW
uneven mason
but he has an excuse
neon tangle
She kills all the minions
uneven mason
he's like 12
keen spire
Baine needs to defect from the horde already
neon tangle
Never the heroes
keen spire
LOL
modern brook
Saurfang? more like Sour, Dang, thats the taste in my mouth about him after he abandoned the horde
keen spire
SADBOX
modern brook
Uhhh
modern brook
nah he def left the horde
uneven mason
K
dusk locust
horde's still there just sylvanas is insane
uneven mason
Still the most horde looking motherfucker on the planet
keen spire
^
oblique garnet
Huh sylvanas insane? Nah fam shes sane
modern brook
that racist mactier
keen spire
He embodies the horde
modern brook
Orc != Horde
quartz lake
Dumb question: If I'm off tanking, should I be stacked on main tank (in certain boss fights, obvi) so that I can generate rage by being hit? Or is this too hard on the healers and I should just dps off to the side or stack on melee? I'm thinking in Uldir, I know there are certain fights where I need to not be stacked on main tank. But on bosses like Mother and Taloc, is there any benefit to stacking on MT?
modern brook
even if we're the most important
uneven mason
Orc == Horde
oblique garnet
@quartz lake no
uneven mason
Garrosh was the true warchief
keen spire
@quartz lake No
oblique garnet
On anything other than fetid
quartz lake
kk
modern brook
on Mom and taloc if you're not MT you should be a DPS spec, imo
uneven mason
@quartz lake you don't generate rage by taking damage anymore
oblique garnet
When offtanking
uneven mason
Any "cleave" effects will probably kill you
keen spire
@quartz lake If you're in need of rage while you're not actively tanking, use dat intercept, bro
uneven mason
as they're generally tank busters
keen spire
But you shouldn't have rage gen problem with shield slam procs
if you're using all your buttons
uneven mason
Some fights you stack on the other tank
quartz lake
Okay thanks guys.
uneven mason
Vectis for example
modern brook
There are also 0 rage spenders when off tanking
uneven mason
because of space constraints
quartz lake
Yeah Vectis and Fetid
modern brook
You should be using OT time to regen SB charges and pool rage for when u start
quartz lake
@uneven mason Are you sure about that? I think you generate rage by being hit with auto attacks (white damage)
uneven mason
continue to build rage, don't use SB when not being hit, before you taunt try to have ~80rage and a single stack of IP up
modern brook
Dude I'm the king of Prot memes
keen spire
someone do the photoshop
uneven mason
By auto attacks only
and its not based on damage taken
its a flat value (3 iirc) every time an auto hits you
its like, our 2nd smallest contributor to rage generation
keen spire
They changed it in BfA - rage from damage taken is not a thing
uneven mason
Every other rage generator trumps it
quartz lake
Ok Icy Veins is outdated then.
uneven mason
no its not
quartz lake
Thanks guys. For fielding my noob questions
keen spire
Nah, you take damage from getting hit
derp
you generate rage
from
getting hit
I'm an idiot sorry
uneven mason
yes, but not from damage taken
keen spire
^
uneven mason
you generate a flat value
keen spire
^
uneven mason
when you are hit
oblique garnet
hype this week
uneven mason
modern brook
Rather being hit by AA not abilities
uneven mason
DID SOMEONE SAY https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/509789259822006272/unknown.png
oblique garnet
Holy pally is pretty good for this week
modern brook
ie: getting cleaved on doesnt generate rage
oblique garnet
I like the bop
oblique garnet
Not as op as treant
uneven mason
Dark Iron Dwarf eating NEcrotic OMNOMNOM