maybe it does help other folks though
#protection
lusty grotto
mellow quartz
think I have it though, think I can just do aura, target, debuff and track it that way as a trigger
warm plinth
Yeah I feel like that should work alright. As long as it's tracking the debuff specifically and not just starting a timer when you cast it, it should extend the timer when you get a DC hit anyway.
mellow quartz
ahh yeah it works, nice
mellow quartz
indeed
oblique garnet
Skyhold is filled with lazy people
untold creek
WA has a easy template that works for what you're saying
just tracks duration of debuff on current target. takes 2s to make
little rain
https://clips.twitch.tv/ArtsyHilariousSandstormCmonBruh?tt_medium=clips&tt_content=recommendation ๐
oblique garnet
He didnt blink LUL
long tinsel
is the vial trinket from underrot any good? A 385 one dropped from a 10 today
oblique garnet
It is
long tinsel
replacing a 340 Jes' Howler
oblique garnet
Yup
sand egret
@little rain holy shit that is so cathartic to watch
warm plinth
Get wrecked lol
lucid kelp
370 Rezan's vs Darkmoon deck?
sand egret
most likely rezan's unless you're really hurting for the defense.
lucid kelp
ty
sick sentinel
i'm still using DMD
ocean acorn
is there a trinket lest somwhere? currently using a 390 Gore-crusted butchers block and a 375 jes'howler
is a 370 rezan or 385 syringe better?
fringe marten
Shpicey you want the rezan for boss battles, single target mitigation where shaving a few seconds off block refresh makes a difference over a longer duration. Things like lions strength and Goreblock are great for M+ where adding in a couple more parries while you're tanking 4 to 8 mobs is a big deal.
Since you can't swap gear in M+ now..you're going to lean on what makes trash better, since it's still the majority challenge/time sink in M+. Hence why a lot of prot warriors run lions/gore. or something similar.
IMO I think for what you have I'd use the syringe and goreblock.
For M+
primal crypt
block syringe at those levels
fringe marten
For a raid setup I'd use syringe/Rezan, or Rezan/Blockades if it's really rough progression stuff.
(that's what I just said Yamo lol)
fringe marten
Just giving the answer I don't think is that useful. He needs to know why you'd make that choice. If he doesn't understand why crit => Parry..is very useful in M+. and why Haste ends up better in longer extended boss fights...then he won't be making the right choices in each scenario. And he can't make the decision for himself..he just does what pins/people tell him.
astral crystal
robust urchin
Ok so they finally removed Charge and IP off of GCD?
warm plinth
Yessir
robust urchin
Do people play prot warrior now?
warm plinth
They have been this whole time.
primal crypt
T H I C C
robust urchin
I meant it like is it fun again to play a prot warrior
warm plinth
Fun is subjective. Give it a shot.
lusty grotto
@primal crypt is your wife staying for siege?
ocean acorn
@fringe marten for what its worth i only tank m+ i also have the world boss trinket too
primal crypt
We're eating cake
lusty grotto
okie
round vortex
Disclaimer before my next post. I care nothing for views and only upload videos to youtube for our guild to watch.
Don't care for subs etc...
Linking a video from my mythic vectis kill last night at a specific time.
Back story - I had my loot spec set to fury from Taloc to try and get a second weapon. And forgot....
It was still set to Fury when vectis died. Please witness the ultimate pog that can't be described by screenshot.
Angry reacts only please ๐
ocean acorn
@fringe marten dooms fury i mean
scarlet vortex
Do you guys know any prot warr that streams alot or is live now?
tribal yacht
wide girder
Barnacle probably, rezan
neon tangle
@tribal yacht FWIW on my BDK it's fathoms and disc
scarlet vortex
No prot warr streamers? Can't seem to find any
scarlet vortex
Yea or any i can follow to watch
untold creek
sense is solid
scarlet vortex
Ty
oblique garnet
Nah
primal crypt
Lol
round vortex
@scarlet vortex I am streaming my raids now but only once per week man. I will PM you.
primal crypt
HE SAID GOOD WARRIOR
sand egret
๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
primal crypt
oblique garnet
Oh damn
oblique garnet
They are spicy
sand egret
spritzers for days
round vortex
Get rekt hahaha
chilly brook
So cuz I was actually interested in the whole thing from this morning and I had nothing better to do, if you take the cutoff point of the leaderboard on raider.io as 1500, and you want to see where people with 1800 or above would be it would still be the top 23%
for blood DK's that is
completely off topic so I'm out
oblique garnet
See im just average
supple path
God my teeming nightmare this week was relearning just how many stealthed monsters there are by the first boss in temple.
supple path
Or more accurately the ranged dps in my group learning this. during the fight.
lusty grotto
dh bonus rolled
gave me ring so yeah
380 WF
gonna do KR 10 on main :x
also have FH 11
๐
fringe marten
is angry keystones just not updated for 8.1?
lusty grotto
what do you mean? mine works fine
prime kernel
any1 knows if the trins from Tortollan's emissary are good? just got one 380+socket (flat STR , procs smth around 425 versa for 7 sec)
prime kernel
xalzaix 380 / lion's strength 370 and blockades
lusty grotto
hmm
prime kernel
and mchimba ritual badagess but i forgot i even had these in my bags
lusty grotto
380 or 385?
prime kernel
375 ;d was from normal 10+ run
lusty grotto
no the tortollan trinket
prime kernel
380with socket
prime kernel
nope, also 380
lusty grotto
i would go tortollan + blockades for defensive and Lions + tortollan for dps
xalzaix trigger conditions are way too situational IMO, but some people here disagree
so its up to you
versa works for both defensive and offensive situations
prime kernel
yeah, will have to check the uptime of this tortollan stuff
its only 7 sec, so im guessing it should be decent
lusty grotto
it's like a Jes, so it should be solid
prime kernel
yeah, but Jes gives much more vers right ? and for 12 sec, not 7
oblique garnet
Not if its a minute cd
sick sentinel
Aw yeah, agreed
sand egret
oh man ya'll gotta try running a key with Imposing Presence at 3 stacks. Shit is hi-larious
lusty grotto
yee timed a KR10
sand egret
I just did dirty things to a waycrest manor
sick sentinel
You lose so much healing from IV
sand egret
and that shit put in work
uh honestly
this put up ~17%
but was on demand. quite fun
it's on my BoM set
sick sentinel
Like, I would take it over anything else other than IV
sand egret
well point is, it's super sweet in a quirky way.
since it basically makes your other cooldowns better
sick sentinel
What do you mean?
sand egret
so it's damage they deal to you
after mitigation
so the less you take per hit
the longer that 15 second buff lasts
at least, you get full value
sick sentinel
Oh, I see
sand egret
so it just makes shit smoother
I gotta run with it more, but it's not bad. at 3 stacks on 375 gear i have ~44k per mob
sick sentinel
what is the best race overall for a prot warrior or just warrior in general on the horde side?
sand egret
idk be or tauren? it doesn't really matter
sick sentinel
Highmountain
sand egret
kinda preference really
sick sentinel
Or tauren
sand egret
i'd mess with canadian tauren myself
sick sentinel
played alliance for 14 years, so i don't know much about the racial, thinking orc, tauren or BE
sick sentinel
Normal beef has 1% more stam and canadian beef has 1% vers
sand egret
vs movement stun that is slightly more awkward to use
but anyway, so far IP testing is going well
hmm it also doesn't specify damage dealt to you....could be good or bad ๐ค
stone crag
HM defensively, Belf/nelf for keys, ez
sick sentinel
HM is the best Horde race for prot. Belf is just as popular due to its racial being used in extreme cases, similar to how nelfs are good for their stealth but DI is better
sick sentinel
Torrents main use comes from being able to deal with adds like the ones from the start of KR or the skeleton crew in UR. Otherwise it's just a neato thing to have for other dungeons that you will never notice a difference if you didn't have dispelling ability
Honestly you would be better off chosing any other race over belf. Their racials, like all others, are minor but compared to others are pretty bad
primal crypt
Especially now that they're nerfed
sick sentinel
^
primal crypt
Nice to have but no longer game breaking
sick sentinel
KR is honestly the only real place worth a fuck and that's just for 2 sections, and that's at the start
You are better off bringing a priest then going belf for something so rarely noticeable outside that dungeon
short yoke
so i know this has probably been asked a ton, but just got back into the game and keep hearing that prot warr is busted for some dungeons and hard to play for others. Which dungeons is it really good in and which ones should i try and avoid at first until i get a feel for the spec?
signal plover
read guide...play spec...do gud
sick sentinel
At a general level, any dungeon where physical damage is the majority of damage that is being dealt, since we can block it
But this starts tipping into personal preferences too
Because a dungeon like WM, which has a lot of magic going on for it I find pretty easy and tolerable but can be a mess for others
Since we are not built as well to deal with magic damage compared to other tanks
short yoke
yeah, that's the impression i got. I'm not too familiar with any of the dungeons, which ones are magic damage heavy so i can avoid until i get a better feel for prot?
primal crypt
it's a bit scattered
sick sentinel
Manor/Shrine are the biggest offenders imo
short yoke
alright, cool. ty for the info mate
gonna practice it a lot once i get above a 270 MH and shield. No luck on that front >.>
been gearing as fury
sick sentinel
Unless it's been changed, do the arathi WF, never sell gear you get and ull be able to get ur 340 weapon/shield
short yoke
does it fill your lowest slot?
because i did it once this week already and got 370 chest when i had a 300
and a random 340 that was lower ilvl than the boots i got from darkshore WB
native forum
is there any BiS trinket list for prot warrior (Dmg/survival)?
stone crag
none for damage considering no working sims
closest thing for defensive is https://www.dreamgrove.gg/guardian/defensive-trinkets/ (includes other tanks than just guardian)
native forum
cool thanks
sick sentinel
leveling warriors: any tips for tanking stratholme?
valid needle
Wait, what level are you?
sick sentinel
i was 53 when i started, 55 now
valid needle
Did you quest at all?
sick sentinel
?
valid needle
If not
sick sentinel
during the dungeon or before that?
valid needle
A stonetalon q at 55 gave me between 19-23k average
valid needle
To put it in perspective... a quest at 62 in Howling Fjord gave me an average of 18k.
valid needle
You can
sick sentinel
ofc i wouldn't touch the dungeons
sick sentinel
freaking stratholme
valid needle
Cause quests turn green
sick sentinel
sorry, i just needed to vent/get some advice
valid needle
Meaning less exp
sick sentinel
right
valid needle
Just get your war mode on and enjoy life
valid needle
And if you have friends at your level, quest together
sick sentinel
i've been questing as fury
valid needle
Quite fun for sure
sick sentinel
some of the quests here aren't too bad, it's just figuring out what to kill
valid needle
Im currently questing as Arms cause of Warbreaker + Bladestorm
valid needle
But yeah. We only did quests cause we figured out that if you just take the right zones it's super easy
Like.. don't go for high zones
sick sentinel
like 40-60 zones?
sick sentinel
yeah ima head to stonetalon rn, it's actually pretty close
valid needle
And you'll be 60-62 while Stonetalon ain't even done
wheat bronze
Do emissaries still time out after 3 days? Not seeing a timer on them.
sick sentinel
the whole time i was just like "am i doing ok?" because i kept taking tons of damage
valid needle
Just remember the initial quest for stonetalon is in Ashenvale
manic perch
@wheat bronze yeah they still do
sick sentinel
"we're here to do one thing, maybe two"?
wheat bronze
How do you see how much time is left?
valid needle
Ye
sick sentinel
nice
valid needle
Just stay away from Icecrown/Stormpeaks
sick sentinel
ok
valid needle
Also, if you have a mage friend at 110 or whatever
manic perch
i normally just press M and then mouse over them it normally shows the time there Expires in 16 hours etc
sick sentinel
ring of blood?
valid needle
Quests in Nagrand
sick sentinel
ok i'm assuming you mean TBC nagrand
wheat bronze
@manic perch Think it is bugged in 8.1 cause they don't show timers anymore
valid needle
He can port you both to Shatt and fly you there
sick sentinel
ah
valid needle
If you're an EU boi ill help whenever you're up at that level
valid needle
Well rip
sick sentinel
what are some dungeons i should avoid tanking while leveling?
both in general and just for prot
manic perch
mine was showing yesterday still, do you use any map or ui addons that can maybe mess it up?
valid needle
I mean, i wouldn't dungeon after like 30
valid needle
Unless you have a dedicated team speeding them it's very inefficient
wheat bronze
sick sentinel
either i stopped around 90 or i don't remember running the WoD dungeons on that char
valid needle
Well i mean questing
sick sentinel
oh
manic perch
ok thats weird Justify, will have a look when i get hom later today, do you use any addons like world quest tracker?
sick sentinel
i remember wrath of azshara was just a painful dungeon in general
sick sentinel
yeah the thing from legion
sick sentinel
you're thinking of throne of the tides
i hate that dungeon, but for a different reason
valid needle
Eye of Azhara is ez pz
sick sentinel
i just think the dialogue is cringey
valid needle
Skip through half
sick sentinel
meh some of the pulls can be bad if you don't know what you're doing
and factoring in that accidents happen...
remember the giant cave after serpentix?
i've had (non tanking) incidents where the crabs before that have been pulled by mistake
i think they were crabs
wheat bronze
No addons at all
valid needle
You skip cave
valid needle
Just get a DH to jump up to 4th boss with swap blaster
wheat bronze
Nah, don't even need a swapblaster
sick sentinel
and the odds of that in a random queue are...
wheat bronze
You can use a multiperson mount after someone gets up
valid needle
Well these days you just bring one for the dungeon q
wheat bronze
Jump up, click mount
wheat bronze
but if you're talking about random dungeons like normal and heroic, why bother? It was only used to skip for M+ timer
sick sentinel
well then i wish i knew that
valid needle
Cause it's tedious
wheat bronze
In a normal dungeon, you'll clear it faster than the amount of time you'll waste telling randoms that they should do it and how to do it and failing it for 20 minutes first
sick sentinel
there was a skip for one dungeon where you literally just jump over something lol
valid needle
Well i wouldn't do it with randoms
sick sentinel
right
valid needle
I'd ask my bud to do it ๐ฌ
sick sentinel
well it's too late now
valid needle
Oh well
sick sentinel
wouldn't it be easier to use a warlock gate though?
if there's a warlock in the group
valid needle
At the end of the day, the general trick for levelling is doing the appropriate content deppending on who you're with
winter pulsar
Man how the hell do i keep getting 2h weapons when using prot as my loot spec? Sucks yo
stone crag
World quests? WQ loot doesn't care about loot spec
winter pulsar
War fronts
rocky light
how is necrotic tomorrow for prot warrior?
crimson sentinel
Same as ever? xd
stone crag
Except not longer effected by SR
not like it really mattered since it was only the damage reduction for the dot
manic perch
does it not ge affected by armor now?
manic perch
ah ok
last loom
worth to go for 370 thunderclap trait over 385? ifi dont have any
zealous crest
What is my goal pure offensive? Is it still worth? DC one and going 15 ilvl lower
north bloom
what traits are you guys running besides thunderclap
manic perch
im using arch/dc/if
north bloom
is it worth to use more then 1 DC
north bloom
so double archives over double dc
livid olive
;;stop
neon tangle
@last loom crit is fine for m+, and slightly less good for raids
neon tangle
With lots of small hits crit approaches raw damage reduction, the only reason itโs not preferred is because itโs random
In m+ itโs a lot more small hits
last loom
is crit the best aoe throughput stat?
neon tangle
@last loom no clue, prolly hard to say for sure since we donโt have working sims
last loom
its pretty frustrating only getting invited to 10s on my warrior tank
but then we go into the group and it looks like this
group disbanded
couldnt handle more than 3 mobs at a time
gray wolf
frustrating to say the least
tight tree
Want me to translate? ๐คฃ
stone crag
yikes
last loom
what does it say
tight tree
"Fuck you jackal"
"Stupidest i ever seen"
- i dont speak retard
"Then suck dick fucking monkey"
last loom
lmao
tight tree
rusky politeness at its finest
tight tree
Probably 8 or 9 years old ๐
sick parcel
WTB Raidbots support for Prot warriors!! Willing to pay with all of Archi's gold.
last loom
350 ring purehaste with a socket or 385 crit mastery socket ring?
shouild i use this
calm sentinel
Guys. can someone confirm it's not only me having demo shout on 15s cd?
jade socket
You have a war mode talent
calm sentinel
AH thanks
jagged dagger
quick question: how prot holding up since the "fix"? just did a +7 freehold on my 360 and it went pretty ok. i actualy didnt feel as slow as i used to but it could be just me
sick sentinel
@last loom I can't answer to all your questions but I can on some. First of all, having shittons of crit is really bad for raids but it is not bad for m+, as long as your haste is at a level that makes the game playable.
Secondly use the 385 ring, I know the 350 pure haste is ๐ฆ ๐ฆ but 35 ilvls is a lot of EHP and nothing to laugh at (also the more hp you have the more healing last stand does and victory rush).
If you want to be invited in bigger groups you have to get a really good raider.io, the way you do this is by pushing your own key or a mate's/guildie's key and being the leader of that group.
Also, don't run with resto shamans lol
sick sentinel
Oh also, make sure you have the trait deafening crash exactly once on your gear, no more no less, no matter the ilvl
leaden gulch
Prot is top tier rn for some dungeons, bdk/bwm still being god tier but prot warrior can do 10k+ dps pretty easily which is really valuable
neon tangle
Iโm still curious how prot will do with the season 2 affix
I imagine the AoE dps could help with it a bunch
old zephyr
We don't even know how it will work yet
sick slate
Novi been doing M+ for a week, i find it depends on the healer, they cant really rest with Prot War. Worst i find so far is trash packs with magic, like inside Told Dag there some nasty packs this week.
Getting blasted by the salt case x3 and x2 fire dot + normal adds hitting you
dmg is nuts thought which is nice most the time i feel fine
last loom
lol
https://gyazo.com/dd2718592d7e8fe3b8b127d54a07e677 this is my 5th duengon as prot
ez4me
livid tendon
boosting as prot' war :HYPERS:
last loom
ye was close enough
feelsbad
losing so much on the bosses
i finally replaced my 340 shield tho pog
void sonnet
lvl?
old zephyr
Bigpull is life though
old zephyr
Why are they so many HolyPriest in M+ thses days?
wide girder
got buffed
last loom
ye it was +12 only
void sonnet
in meantime I found it on armory - it says 11 ๐
old zephyr
@wide girder What king of buff?
last loom
i dont keep track
eager tartan
Big pulls, prot warrior and ACDC playlist is life
rocky ledge
@last loom if you took 13k+ with mostly range and a boomkin using treants you probably arenโt using your rage defensively enough. Clearly you have revenge/tclap down but Iโm guessing you have block gaps and low-ish IP usage. Due to low haste maybe?
rocky ledge
Can you show your buff uptime list?
last loom
dunno whats considered low
rocky ledge
Thatโs fine actually. 1100 is very playable
rocky ledge
Lately with the 8.1 buffs Iโve been having about 60% overall shield block uptime between SB and Avatar in a run like motherload.
last loom
oh i probably dont use it enough
im at dps mentality
trying to compete with the other dpsers
shieldblock uptime was 40%ish
rocky ledge
Get some good weakauras and try to flow with SB x3 into last stand into more SB repeat
eager tartan
Imo as long as your Healer can handle it you should push to the limit in a mythic +
rocky ledge
Never hit SB while LS is up
eager tartan
If you feel that each pull you and the Healer could use more CDs and/or mana push
Certainly there are some mechanics you can't deal with aoeing the fuck out of'em
rocky ledge
I completely agree @eager tartan but he did that run with 2 casters (less chance for quaking dmg) and boomkin with treants. He could have done the run taking like 2k dps less overall
eager tartan
But for the rest, keep that DPS mentality I'd say
As a matter of fact when I play with my own DPS I feel other tanks slow as snails
Compared to my go to rhytim
rocky ledge
I like to pull motherload pretty aggressively until the mine cart then it slows down.
eager tartan
Usually I skip all that zone
rocky ledge
Pulling refreshment vendors only 1-2 at a time, focusing them and dragging other mobs to the next group. Chain pulling till my healer needs to drink.
eager tartan
Then again I run with a druid and a rogue
sick sentinel
motherlode pulling is still something I kind of stuggle with
because I always pull one more vendor than I should
eager tartan
Essentially clear all the first zone before first boss
Skip all the mastermind sons of bitches
And profit
rocky ledge
Itโs fine if you are in a good group, but in pugs I never pull too many casters
sick sentinel
or I think they will interrupt but they dont
what I have started to do is that if I want to pull more I CC a caster
rocky ledge
Cc is for the weak!
eager tartan
Damn right
rocky ledge
You can SR the 1st cast, pummel 2nd drag to group, shockwave, fear, kick again.
eager tartan
Tbh though I notice that the mastermind damage is at least predictable
I actually put the focus on the weapo. Testers
wary plume
You can reflect their channel too
eager tartan
Those are group killahs
wary plume
Which is juicy damage
If you spell reflect on the pack of two, both of their beams get reflected because they sync
rocky ledge
Masterminds I hate pulling with other mobs on fortified over a +12 w/o a monk healer.
They do so much dmg you have to spend all your rage chaining IP and SR
eager tartan
Dont usually like monk healers they oom fast as hell
rocky ledge
Spending rage on SB gets you killed
eager tartan
With a holy Pala fun never ends
rocky ledge
True, u never see high io pallies in que though.
I tend to run with druids and monks
eager tartan
I'm lucky to run with the same peeps usually
Either Hpally or Druid as heal
And then warlock, rogue, bm
eager tartan
Is a handy trait, I use it a lot when I chain pull
Get some aggro, IS
And wait for the group to come by
rocky ledge
I canโt wait to have access to more azerite. Did you guys hear every boss is supposed to drop helm/chest/ or shoulder in next teir?
sick sentinel
you can see their loot tables in the journal in game
rocky ledge
I just hated how there were 3 slots and only 5 drops in all of Uldir.
eager tartan
And no DC in Uldir
That was a fun
Then again I got the 385 bis shlulders in my first week so who I'm I to complain ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
wary plume
I've cleared mythic 8 times and still no chest 
livid tendon
8 mythrax kill and we split for armor types and i still dont have shoulders
๐ ๐ ๐
eager tartan
And now that I'm starting to stack residium I need to restrain myself rolf
415 is probably going to be expensive as fuck though
rocky ledge
Iโm going to random one 385 shoulder next week since I still donโt have one, then craft the new engi helm
livid tendon
just do like method and farm 90 islands everyday so you can reach requirements
rocky ledge
Afaik shoulders have 2 dc pieces at the vendor so I have like a 1/3 chance at a better DC shoulder from my 360s Iโm forced to wear
zinc mauve
arent the outermost rings the ones that require the lowest level?
manic perch
depends on what piece you gonna get normal hc or mythic?
ionic fern
Pretty sure 33 unlocks first 2 rings in raid azerite gear.
livid tendon
sinful bay
Thanks !
mild maple
Does the amount of Titan Residuum you get from your M+ weekly chest scale with the highest key you've done?
manic perch
yes
mild maple
Caps at 10 atm?
manic perch
10 u get 60
mild maple
Oh neat
oblique garnet
at 18 you get 89
manic perch
15 u get think 72
outer dew
oblique garnet
Ily Tofu โค
sick sentinel
@last loom so 1 min into the video and I can already see that this guy is a bit Pepega
like, his last shrine on time above at +15 or higher was 3 months ago, and blizzard said that they started tracking from like less than 2 months ago and you can contact a GM and he will tell you which one you have to do
like, you can't actually go and make a video going all "Blizzaaaaaaard ๐ก " without even knowing what you are talking about
this guys is 2.1k with a rogue and thinks he knows everything
oblique garnet
@outer dew why
hallow hatch
Is there. Trinket list?
My warriors 380 been using syringe and rezans just was curious if thereโs a updated list
unique mortar
whats the go to traits for m+ for max deeps? 3x BoM or 2x BoM and 1x DC?
oblique garnet
2x BoM 1 DC
sick sentinel
for trinkets basically you sent a screenshot of your trinkets and people tell you what to wear
hallow hatch
Also using archive x1 def x1 bastion of might
sick sentinel
also not bad
unique mortar
I feel like you absolutely want 2x on use trinkets, to pop them together with avatar
proc based trinkets are just meh
oblique garnet
Eh
sick sentinel
that just says that you don't know how trinkets work
oblique garnet
if you have 1 min cd trinket then yes maybe
sick sentinel
if you have 2 on use trinkets and you use one of them the other goes on a 30 sec cd
hallow hatch
So many good proc trinkets although the new world boss drops a nice str crit trinket
livid tendon
world boss trinket
valid needle
I wonder if m+ will award tidalcores in s2
sick sentinel
you can't
livid tendon
i mean you can make a 385 trinket
not that i know the difference between the s2 trinket and the one now
sick sentinel
the difference is
that you can not make trinket now
but will be able to do it in S2
jade socket
Think the only difference is one caps out at 385 and the other one starts at 385
So you can make the capped one rn
sick sentinel
am I missing something here?
valid needle
Yeah
livid tendon
you make the 355 sanguinated one and it upgrades to 370 or smth
sick sentinel
we have no way of getting tidalcore rn
valid needle
You get an upgraded recipe
livid tendon
and then 385
valid needle
After making sanguinated
manic perch
and dont be like me and make same thing twice cause rip expulsiom
jade socket
Itโs 25 now I believe
manic perch
i did, got 0 back
jade socket
Not very much
manic perch
was 340 thou maybe 370 gives back
livid tendon
I got expolsum back for 355 and 370 ones
valid needle
I got expolsum enough anyways
manic perch
i crafted 340 twice
valid needle
Like 90++
manic perch
like a full on retard
livid tendon
ye dont really get why you get expolsum back from the new stuff cus you can jsut perma reroll on jc rings
but im not complaining
livid tendon
ye but i dont think you get expolsum back from the armor
its only the new stuff added in 8.1 i think
valid needle
Rings i don't care much about at this point
It's more the trinket
Cause fathoms isn't helping me much anymore ๐ญ
And my guild won't hate me for progressing with that ๐ ๐ ๐
sick sentinel
thing is, fathoms should do more damage than the alchemy trinket
sick sentinel
sure
hollow thorn
@sick sentinel Tidalcore is coming from dungeons once Raid drops
Scrapping items made by expulsom also gives the expulsom back now
sick sentinel
I was aware of the first one
hollow thorn
Idk if you get expulsom back from items made prior to 8.1
hollow thorn
I watched Naowh get Expulsom back from scrapping his trinket yesterday
livid tendon
ember arrow
i wish that was possible
ember arrow
correct
sick sentinel
I actually tried to delete my arms artifact weapon when I got it
hollow thorn
Yes its his NA character, and it was yesterday
Still gave the expulsom back as i said
oblique garnet
Ye but i mean the crafted gear is most likely made after 8.1
Because i didnt get any expulsom back when i scrapped my belt
hollow thorn
I also said i didnt know that
livid tendon
wait i think i actually got expolsum back from scrapping plate legs monkaHmm
hollow thorn
Im gonna scrap my crafted pieces when i get home, dont use them for anything
livid tendon
@ me when you find out if it gives expolsum or not
oblique garnet
Same because if it does i gotta do a gm ticket
hollow thorn
Id be more surprised if it gave Expulsom than if it didnt
steady slate
good morning!
narrow abyss
Good morning!
primal crypt
๐
errant wing
๐ฎ
narrow abyss
Happy chest day
primal crypt
Lmao shhh
thorny laurel
Do you guys think this so called "prot fix" in 8.1 is lazy? When almost on every talent row, only 1 talent is viable. I for one dont like the CD centered playstyle but im only gimping myself my picking something else. I wonder if they will take a good look at prot talents before the end of the expansions
livid tendon
bring back bc and antorus 2p
oblique garnet
Its the problem with nowadays talents there isnt much variant
livid tendon
so its not cd dependant
also every class plays with the same talents perma
so
its not like its a prot war only issue
thorny laurel
yes I didnt mind the CD dependent playstyle during legion, during antorus that was the pinnacle of prot warrior imo
Having every 15~20 sec BC was very fun
but ye you are right, other tanks have this issue as well
primal crypt
So uh...
8.2
No longer need neck level to unlock azerite traits lmao
They're just unlocked from the get go
ashen sparrow
yea and we get a skill tree
livid tendon
at least bfa is so dog that you can play other games after progress
manic perch
so they "simplified" talents cause it was complicated, now we get neckpiece and gear with talents ๐
hehehehe
sick sentinel
so our neck becomes our artifact weapon
manic perch
yes essentially Kage
sand egret
@primal crypt they arent removing trait requirements. what was said was that people should no longer need to grind azerite levels to unlock traits on gear by then. Furthermore our neck is going to change in functionality.
i imagine its a system where you pump it to level X (I think they implied 33 was max) then it unlocks a quest to turn it into a new item that is more powerful.
as to what is defined as โmore powerfulโ, idk
worthy dagger
dont hate me boys but i actually like BfA, it has its backdraws but it could be worse
sick sentinel
I am was enjoying bfa for the longest time
uneven mason
Yeah we could be FOTM
sick sentinel
Then 80% of my guild quit the game
sick sentinel
3 weeks after uldir
uneven mason
because Uldir is a boring raid and we got started on MProg late
Only reason I'm still playing
and a lot of folks are
is because w're all active outside of raid times
infact some of us grumble that raiding interrupts "the really fun stuff"
like World PVP
and RBGs
and M+
sick sentinel
Only reason I'm still playing is raider io
And friends
I Actually made some new friends in bfa
I was playing with some guys and they were playing with some others, but my mates quit as well as theirs
So we found refugee on each other
And we paired up quite well actually, we even did the hivemind together
worthy dagger
I have to disagree that Uldir is boring, in fact its a really simple dungeon with simple mechanics, maybe that would be a reason for it to be boring.
The fact that people cant understand simple mechanics is what makes Uldir stupid and people to quit BfA because of the raid.
M+ isnt very interesting because they simply recycled Legions affixes and tried to make it work on BfA.
The reason I liked BfA was because it brought back that warcraft feeling, Alliance x Horde that was missing years ago, the lore is kinda "wtf" but its really not that bad
uneven mason
M+ Is great
I'm loving the dungeons (even with the old affixes)
But yeah I agree with the alliance vs Horde
I'm also alliance
and uh, the Night Elf storyline +++
bringing back that WC3 Tyrande
rather than Mary Sue and his Wife
primal crypt
I enjoy the pvp more than I have in a very long time
uneven mason
World PVP is amazing in 8.1
primal crypt
Much larger scale than ever in wow history
uneven mason
Still working on getting that assassin achievement tho
I'd say
Classic pre BGs
had better world PVP
uneven mason
but outside of that
primal crypt
The constant raids give me raging hardy
round glade
Has anyone tried out [Lingering Sporepods] trinket from Underrot?
uneven mason
its poo
round glade
huh
worthy dagger
underrot is so easy tho
round glade
idd
round glade
๐
round glade
so my guess is this [Lingering Sporepods] at 380 is worse than eye of rezan att 355 then, damn shame
uneven mason
Eye of Rezan is pretty beefy
uneven mason
more or less sporepods is RNG
and its low proc rate RNG
if it had like a 4PPM
it'd be solid
mebbie
round glade
and nwo its around?
uneven mason
RNG heals are still very weak
round glade
2`?
uneven mason
its like 1.2 iirc
sand egret
its real low to be worth it imho
round glade
holy damn
sand egret
i tried real hard to make it work
uneven mason
its burning dog shit
round glade
ye ill DE it right away
round glade
Ye
round glade
mhye, damn
uneven mason
BOYS
round glade
i was ALMOST glad for a moment
sand egret
lool
weak lake
perfect
sand egret
A+
iron spade
Hey, just started to re-roll prot warrior, whats the stat prio and bis trinkets atm?
weak lake
read the guides my homeboy
sand egret
and check the guides
uneven mason
Stat priority is ilvl > haste > vers >= mastery > crit
weak lake
it has so much more info then any of us can give
uneven mason
and 
sand egret
plus it spares 10 people all answering at once ๐
weak lake
that, too
sand egret
this time of day prob haha
uneven mason
but yeah, read the icy veins guide
weak lake
what is 10+10
weak lake
fuck
sand egret
What is, Shield Block?
weak lake
the thing u shouldnt hit until u die
primal crypt
๐
sand egret
clearly not a Trebek fan...
mellow quartz
Super important question, how long would your shield last pulling all mobs in the orb room in Temple before it broke?
3min?
mellow quartz
Say you managed to get 10 infested
sand egret
cuz any prot warrior would NEVER NOT clap that
worthy dagger
who needs a shield when you can TC your way
mellow quartz
Donโt think it would hold up more than a few min
uneven mason
TC
hmm
Yeah mobs wouldn't live 3min
that place is like free victory rushes
but to answer your question
back in TBC
mellow quartz
I had a random pug where we had 5 of them infested
uneven mason
I pulled all of the worms
mellow quartz
They lasted that long ๐
primal crypt
So who's going to deal with necrotic best
uneven mason
<---
primal crypt
This week
mellow quartz
Prot pallies
primal crypt
Lmao
primal crypt
It's not that slow
worthy dagger
we can leap, prot warr > all
modern brook
why are dps dumb ppl
mellow quartz
We can just stun and run
modern brook
why are non-warrior dps dumb ppl**
mellow quartz
Easy
mellow quartz
Or just chuck lightfoot like the rest of us ๐
primal crypt
Yikes arcane pulse
old zephyr
I have tried laking a List of Azerite item I'd like to wear (I won't dare calling then BiS) once BfD is out.
What do you think of
Helm : crown of bloody succession (jaina)
shoulder : skyscordcher pauldrons (Motherlode)
Chest : Desert guardian chesplate (Sethralis)
This would give 1 DC, 1 or 2 BoM, and 3 or 4 of BfI/IF plus what I think are good Middle/inner.
Opinions?
old zephyr
I didn't manage to find a way to get 3 BoM and satisfying other traits for stupid M+ AoE
chilly brook
I canโt say for sure since I havenโt looked at the gear but bfi/if are always really nice, and I would say youโd probably just want another set entirely for m+ since itโs so much more diverse
modern brook
BFI got so much doper with IP change
chilly brook
M+ is kinda a system thatโs you should tailor your gear to each week because of how everything changes so often but blizz decided it was a โgoodโ idea to make that harder on you
modern brook
not being able to swap gear in dungeon fucking ruins so many specs
but i guess thats the idea
old zephyr
but because We can't even lucky loot azerite i'll have to buy them so it's probably gonna be a while until I have a spare set. So as a raid and all around M+ set this sounded good
chilly brook
It wonโt be bad by any means for m+
modern brook
I wouldnt get 2 bom for raid, personally.
chilly brook
Personally I liked IF over BFI but that was before 8.1
And I havenโt played since 8.1 dropped
modern brook
BFI is a lot less clunky now imo
Less awkward positions where you're in avatar and consuming SS is somehow a damage loss / or kills you
chilly brook
I donโt doubt it
rocky ledge
Hard to hit that SS button when tanking 10mobs. TC/revenge 4life
chilly brook
I just reinstalled last night lol
I knew I shouldnโt have uninstalled
But I did for some reason
oblique garnet
@old zephyr You can get 3x BoM 3x DC for m+ with dungeon + raid gear
old zephyr
I don't want to get 3 DC
modern brook
yeah but the damage
late and i had this argument already
blahblahblah variety vs BIG STOMP MAN
old zephyr
and the middle/inners of raid are at best Meh
chilly brook
I mean donโt get me wrong
I like being a thunder god and all
But I also donโt like being broke
modern brook
I've just accpeted that I wont be able to afford potions this exp
and try to hammer the gold emissaries and get 3-4 flasks
uneven mason
Yeah, I"m struggling to get healing pots since they're like 150g each wtf
primal crypt
I dont want 3 dc.....4hed
3 bom 3 dc
Only way to go in m+
Matter of fact, it's the only way to be at all
@lusty grotto you don't bring a prot warrior for survivability am I right?
sand egret
i'd prefer 3 bom 3 IF myself
old zephyr
If you tank more you can Pull more and facetank longer so more bootyclap
sand egret
ocd symmetry > benefits of dc for me ๐
primal crypt
Unfortunately you have a cap on what you're going to be able to facetank
So you're better off doing the double triple packs only and dpsing harder in m+
Sometimes even triple packs are tricky
And not because of facetanking, but interrupts and stuns
old zephyr
then i'll go with 2 disc priest and 2 MW monk as Healers/DPS and pull ALLLLL the mobs
primal crypt
With prot toolkit, vanilla blocks and bolster will care for dmg intake
As you booty clap
hollow thorn
@oblique garnet @livid tendon Scrapped my 2x 385 crafted belts and got this from pre 8.1
primal crypt
But if you boost your booty clap, then everything disappears and there's no dmg taken at all
4 dps is better than 3 lel
old zephyr
IF gives DPS as well, I have to do the math
primal crypt
This is strictly m+
For anyone reading
And it's napkin math
Dont want anyone saying some dumb shit later
YAM SAID ALWAYS RUN TRIPLE DC
WITH TRIPLE BOM
old zephyr
DC = 161 base damge per TC
IF = 192 per blocked
with UF its 321 damage/mob every 3 sec (before hase)
assuming swingtimer of 1.5 sec IF would be 384 every 3 secs/mob
round vortex
yay milestone reached lol
old zephyr
I Don't know how they scale with Ilvl but IF seems to compete with 2nd and 3rd DC for damage
primal crypt
But you wont be running triple IF
jagged bay
gz
daring marlin
so many pieces will have DC so yeah
funny how that works huh
barely any DC pieces when it's blatantly overpowered
nerf it and it's on nearly every piece at least once
lul
primal crypt
So, in the case of 1 dc and 2 IF
drowsy relic
what comps do you guys suggest a prot runs this week with a hpal? boomy+rogue+?
primal crypt
Youre better off 3xDC
oblique garnet
@chilly brook Theres a 24hr reset on the reforg now
livid tendon
Pog @hollow thorn
primal crypt
BUT
daring marlin
@drowsy relic get a lust in there
old zephyr
from the set of 3 that I link this will likely be 1 DC, 2 BOM, 2BFI and 1 IF
oblique garnet
@drowsy relic Necrotic raging week?
uneven mason
1DC 1BoM 1IF for M+
Like I told my group lastnight, sure I don't have grip
but until you start beating me on trash damage
My utility still stands
primal crypt
@uneven mason we've been running around 1dc2bom