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last loom
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guys

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i feel so rage starved

lusty grotto
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press demo shout

last loom
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whats up with that

lusty grotto
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press shield slam

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press avatar

steel lotus
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Don’t ip spam

last loom
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when do i wanna use SB vs ip?

lusty grotto
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wtf

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you need to really go back to the guides

last loom
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bro i havent read anything

lusty grotto
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you don't use one or the other

last loom
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i just respecced

lusty grotto
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ok so go read them

last loom
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im in a key now

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lmao

steel lotus
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yikes

oblique garnet
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What talents are you using

broken roost
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Shieldblock to keep it active, spend excess rage on IP

last loom
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i mean they both cost rage

lusty grotto
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funny how you have the time to type here but not read lol

last loom
lusty grotto
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ROFL

oblique garnet
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Ah

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Devastator

steel lotus
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Devestator yikes

oblique garnet
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Thats why youre rage starved

lusty grotto
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no wonder you're rage starved

last loom
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should i not play it?

steel lotus
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I miss when it was good

oblique garnet
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Nope

steel lotus
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Dead talent

last loom
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rly i watch logs

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people used it

oblique garnet
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Booming voice

steel lotus
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They bad

oblique garnet
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Is better

lusty grotto
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those people are retards

steel lotus
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Booming voice is great

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Those are floor tank prots

last loom
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ay

broken roost
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I mean booming will only give you like 1 extra IP per 25 sec (ish) so not a huge difference but it helps at the start of pulls

last loom
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link me some sick wa's so i dont deplete this shit

lusty grotto
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the fuck?

last loom
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xd

lusty grotto
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BV gives you a shitload more dmg

oblique garnet
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15% extra damage

broken roost
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Agreed - but as for being 'rage-starved' the only diff is the 40/cast, no?

lusty grotto
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it's either rage or nothing

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devastator gives 0 rage

last loom
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devestate doesnt give rage?

oblique garnet
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Nope

last loom
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wtf

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guess its just a filler then

lusty grotto
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it is

signal plover
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it's a SS reset

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that's it

broken roost
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Yep -resets Shield slam and does 1dmg is about jt

lusty grotto
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and that

broken roost
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It**

signal plover
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yeah a filler

crude ether
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applies deep wounds as well

lapis wraith
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Gonna tank on my prot for the first time in uldir tonight. Any last minute tips I should know?

broken roost
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Dont die

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:)

lusty grotto
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read up on blockable and reflectable attacks in the pins

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pins it will help

crude ether
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when you're tanking hit last stand and when it's back up hit it again

lusty grotto
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no

lapis wraith
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Lol

lusty grotto
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you hit last stand when you want to refresh Shield Block charges

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i.e. to cover shield block charge gaps

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don't use it on cd if you don't need it

lapis wraith
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Spam last stand got it

crude ether
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not for raid tanking

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LOL

crystal creek
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If your shield blocks are exhausted so they can recharge since bolster does the same thing

lusty grotto
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not for any tanking

crude ether
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no

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this is what you should do for raid tanking

lusty grotto
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please don't give out incorrect advice

crude ether
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so it is up more often in the fight

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and you heal more

lusty grotto
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stop please

crude ether
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this isn't m+ dipchip

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you're wrong

zinc mauve
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Last stand is used to fill in gaps in your mitigation while providing a small heal to boot. Using it reactively is OK but generally not considered a good thing

lusty grotto
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<@&257983573498265600> troll in the chat

fierce juniper
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Lova that isn't how you use LS, and don't be insulting for no reason.

crude ether
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it allows for more healing throughout the encounter and the same amount of block uptime when raid tanking

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you use it like I say and it's more optimal as a raid tank

broken roost
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If you can have SB up 100% of tanking time AND do that, maybe fine

fierce juniper
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It's not the same amount of block uptime if you overlap SB and LS.

zinc mauve
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the first parts are true, but when you spam last stand, you'll end up with a gap in your mitigation and end up taking more damage in the end

broken roost
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With the SB CS reduction (and lots of haste) it might work

crude ether
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depending on how long you tank the boss yes this is true

broken roost
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CD**

lusty grotto
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if you use LS while not taking blockable damage yikes

crude ether
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depending on the boss encounter it is up to your own digression on when you use last stand

lusty grotto
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10 stacks of RA is enough for you to not have to use it on CD anyway

fierce juniper
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But using LS purely on cooldown is never the right way to use it. The "healing throughput" from LS doens't really matter. You use LS for Shield Block gaps or for periods of high damage intake.

crude ether
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although using it immediately rather then late is far more optimal

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I'm sure waiting 15 seconds after SB charges has expired works for most

crystal creek
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No because if SB is exhausted and you use LS, SBcan recharge while LS is up giving more block coverage.

crude ether
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but getting it on cd early with all the rage you spend in your opener opens up for more uptime later on

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ealier in the encounter

lusty grotto
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jesus christ lol

fierce juniper
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Lova what are you talking about

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Do you overlap LS and Sblock?

crude ether
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no

broken roost
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Oh maybe the very first time or something- I think Lova means to maximize AM

crude ether
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of coarse not

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with anger management it's up every minute basically

lusty grotto
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that's correct

crude ether
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so if you have the boss later on with no last stand and die because of it

broken roost
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Opener with avatar, DS, charge gives you stacks of rage, if you use LS before spending that rage then it's up faster sorta thing.. dont think it applies after that though

crude ether
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using it earlier on will save you in that circumstance

lusty grotto
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you won't die due to having no last stand lol its up every 50 seconds on average

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you have shield block

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and if you don't use shield block you don't activate AM

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which makes the 50 second cd possible

last loom
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is bastion of might shit?

crystal creek
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I think I understand your point of view. Use it faster, get it off cd faster

zinc mauve
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@last loom its actually a damage talent believe it or not

broken roost
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No - BoM is op in M+ for damage

zinc mauve
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its funny how it works out

crystal creek
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I’m more of a exhaust SB, then use LS while SB recharges.

zinc mauve
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^

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that is how you use LS

last loom
broken roost
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Lova -main issue I see is if you use it on CD (or virtually on CD) then it's not up for more of the fight, and you're more likely to not have it when you need it

crystal creek
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I think his point was to use it earlier so it comes off cd faster

steel mauve
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If you use last stand first then youll have a gap pretty early on on AM

broken roost
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Check the icy veins guide

lusty grotto
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@last loom READ THE GUIDES

broken roost
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In the pins

steel mauve
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Where as you have less gaps expending 3 sb charves

last loom
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i cant read

steel mauve
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Charges*

broken roost
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Then you can't read our reploes

fierce juniper
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You usually use LS within the first ~20 seconds of the fight anyway, so his point of "using it early" doesn't even make sense.

steel mauve
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18 seconds of shield block then a last stand

zinc mauve
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if you want to use your mitigation early you may as well be dumping all your mitigation on the start to get it on CD

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(dont do that)

crude ether
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it makes clear sense it's just use it on cd fill gaps with SB and then recharge for next time you taunt

steel mauve
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Otherwise youll just have gaps after the first last stand is on cd, albeit less so now that the cd is reduced but they are still there

final mist
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It's the other way around Lova - you fill gaps in SB with LS.

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Not gaps in LS with SB.

steel mauve
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What about mother where you dont taunt and cant allow that time to recharge

crude ether
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if i'm tanking loner then 30 seconds I guess sure

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but you never tend to do so

lusty grotto
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uhhh

final mist
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Mother, Fetid, Taloc, etc.

steel mauve
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Taloc i tank 75% of the fight, mother 100%

crude ether
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atleast I don't with how my team reclears mythic

steel mauve
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Fetid 100%

final mist
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This might be news, but not everyone tanks every boss the same way.

crude ether
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yeah you don't have to hate me just because I use last stand on cd or call me stupid

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I am a cutting edge prot warrior from pre 8.1

lusty grotto
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you're free to use it however you want

final mist
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Same.

lusty grotto
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just stop telling people to do it

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because it's not the right way

broken roost
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But Lova the way you use it works only because of how your group tanks the pulls

lusty grotto
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ah! falling back to the e-peen thing

crude ether
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no im sure I could manage with any team

broken roost
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Probably, but not with using LS/SB in the way you do

crude ether
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and this works effectively in both m+ and raiding

broken roost
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Becuase you would be tanking for the full flight instead of 25sex spurts

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Sec**

crude ether
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as it allows for more usage of IP

broken roost
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Fight**

crude ether
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having no block up doesn't necessarily scare me personally

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I do have over 2k mastery which helps in dealing with any downtime

lusty grotto
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ROFL

broken roost
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Whether or not it scares you, its inefficient

crude ether
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though you should guarantee block where possible

broken roost
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Which is the discussion

oblique garnet
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Yeah if you have that much mastery you can probably get away with it

outer dew
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

broken roost
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Agreed - maximize block uptime! And in long tanking sections, use SB first

outer dew
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i've had moments

broken roost
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To maximize block uptime

outer dew
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where i fantasize about using devastator/HR

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if it works for ya

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it works for ya

final mist
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@lusty grotto Tone down the toxicity, you can have a conversation and not be so passive aggressive.

@crude ether The point is maximizing block uptime, which is why we're telling you it's incorrect to do things as you do.

crude ether
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what works for me might not work for you, also you can have 100% uptime with what i said

broken roost
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I was following mrrobot for a couple weeks earlier on in 8.0 (full on ravager never surrender)

lusty grotto
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lol i mean, i got called out so

crude ether
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you can also burn SW if you're that scared

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just trying to get LS off cd faster guys

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don't be so sad it works for me

oblique garnet
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Do tell me how do you have 100% uptime with the way youre using the rotation

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Lets say youre maintanking fetid

crude ether
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mitigated uptime yes

broken roost
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You can get 100% uptime for short tanking spurts of 30sec or less, but not for longer

oblique garnet
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Yeah effective uptime

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You can have it with either way with how most fights are

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I get 18 seconds of pure SB uptime before i run out of charges and have to use ls and then after that i get another 18 second

outer dew
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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people got different ways of tanking a boss

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i SB->Last Stand for first active tanking on Mythrax

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so i can get LS + SR to overlap for sheer

lusty grotto
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the problem is that he was telling people to do it his way

ember arrow
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ohh spicy discussion

lusty grotto
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specifically

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he was telling someone just STARTING uldir

outer dew
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but I tell people to do my way if they're asking for advice

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because that's how i know how to tank it that way

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lusty grotto
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and then goes off to mention his mythic experience shrug

oblique garnet
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He can get away with it because he has so much mastery

broken roost
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Do you not say 'If you do this, do this, otherwise do that'?

crude ether
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just for giving advice on how to tank 😏

oblique garnet
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@crude ether you have what 50% or so mastery in uldir right?

lusty grotto
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on how to tank and then you say "what works for me, won't work for you"?

crude ether
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mastery isn't the point @oblique garnet

lusty grotto
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do you see where i'm going with this?

outer dew
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to clarify, what exactly did he say?

unique echo
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Are the 8.1 prot warriors easier to heal in m+ than bears? I'm hearing mixed things from both tanks

crude ether
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it's getting LS off cd quicker so you can use it more in the fight

outer dew
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I'm fine with that thought process

broken roost
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8.1 warrs are OpOp in M+

outer dew
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for some bosses it syncs well with LS

crude ether
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so more active uptime on block through out

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just do the math guys

daring marlin
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What difference does it make as long as you make sure to have guaranteed blocks up?

outer dew
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if you dump rage properly in some bosses, you'll be able to get LS for some bosses

daring marlin
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lul

outer dew
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like Zek/Mythrax

lusty grotto
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it doesnt guil

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if you're using LS on cd you're not using SB and dumping rage, thus not activating AM, thus not affecting your OTHER cds

outer dew
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but if you're not using LS on CD, you're also not abusing your AM too

lusty grotto
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forgot the "not" part hehe

outer dew
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it's not terrible to dump rage into IP or push more damage into revenge

lusty grotto
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sure

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i guess it makes no difference truly then

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except for the parts where you aren't blocking

crystal creek
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The time you reduce LS with anger management doesn't outweigh the recharging you get of SB while LS is active if you cast LS while you have SBs.

lusty grotto
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agreed

outer dew
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there's not that many bosses where we don't have any relief for recharges

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and it's not like we already have SB rolling at some parts

crystal creek
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If that makes sense.

lusty grotto
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i mean you also have to take RA into consideration

crude ether
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that's a great point tofu

fleet axle
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guys how do you tank shadow of zul on KR ?

crude ether
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not a bad idea to abuse AM once you start up tanking

fleet axle
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we're wiping, it seems impossible

outer dew
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run like a bitch

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lol

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grab threat

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range him back to boss room

crude ether
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lmao yeah

outer dew
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re-engage when you have CD's

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and run like a bitch again after

oblique garnet
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Bloodlust it and spam ip and sr

lusty grotto
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and demo

crude ether
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on high keys just aggro and speedpot the hell outta that bish

oblique garnet
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And sw

outer dew
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like

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you just have to understand

lusty grotto
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and externals

outer dew
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you are not face tanking that bitch

ember arrow
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u dont tank shadow of zul

outer dew
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you burn through CD's

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and run

ember arrow
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u grab aggro and run away

outer dew
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levko

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your PFP

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is disgusting

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what the fuck

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LMAO

daring marlin
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@lusty grotto You know what I hate?

oblique garnet
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You can tank it

ember arrow
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made it myself

lusty grotto
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rofl levko

fleet axle
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ok thks guy I"ll try it 😃

outer dew
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LMAO

lusty grotto
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this is a good shop

outer dew
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IT'S

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EVEN WORSE

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AHAHHAHA

lusty grotto
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what guilfart

oblique garnet
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This is art

outer dew
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oi

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guil

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i'm going on vacation for like a month

daring marlin
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I hate idiots that do shit like this

lusty grotto
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nuuu tofu

outer dew
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if you don't pass Tidesworn when i get back

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you're dead to me

daring marlin
lusty grotto
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but what about our food talks tofu

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yikes guil

daring marlin
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When they join guilds already on a fight for a while

outer dew
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wdym

daring marlin
outer dew
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i'm still on discord

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lol

daring marlin
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OMEGALUL

outer dew
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i'll hop by every now and then

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why you letting

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this tidesowrn guy

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sit on #2?

daring marlin
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shhh tofu

outer dew
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#betrrayed

lusty grotto
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😮

ember arrow
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shhh

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marok typing

daring marlin
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all bow before odyn

outer dew
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oh

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you guys downed fetid?

ember arrow
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👋

outer dew
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ayyy

oblique garnet
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Marok has been typing on and off so incoming wall of text

outer dew
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zul prog time bby

ember arrow
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@oblique garnet wall of information*

outer dew
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side note

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this name change has been bless

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people have been calling me "Mom"

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👌

lusty grotto
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why arent you Tofu in game

daring marlin
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My lord lol

outer dew
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because

lusty grotto
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Momtofu

outer dew
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I can't get Tofu

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and for NA alliance

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they'll think i'm the DH tofu

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lmao

daring marlin
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lol

outer dew
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Ihatetofu

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or w.e

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yea

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it's ihatetofu

oblique garnet
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Who doesnt hate tofu

outer dew
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wow

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Late

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I see how it is

oblique garnet
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Yup you gave up last week

hot locust
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@fierce juniper quit jebaiting.

outer dew
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wdym

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gave up last week

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smh

sick sentinel
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@fierce juniper continue jebaiting.

outer dew
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push group scammed me

sick sentinel
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im trying 2 learn how to prot keys but there's no ONE-HANDED VERSION OF TWINBLADE OF THE PHOENIX

lapis wraith
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It took me a week to get a one hander and I hate it.

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):

sick sentinel
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i already have a 365

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i'm just looking for a tmog

outer dew
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by the time Marok is done

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Lova gonna be gone

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lmao

crude ether
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I'm about to start a guild heroic

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still here

sick sentinel
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last breath of the worldbreaker was uhh

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hidden appearance right

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The ugly appearance? i believe so yes

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it's the least ugly appearance I can get

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for silvermoon tmog 😦

daring marlin
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ugly?

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UGLY!?

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YOU ARE AN INSANE PERSON!

sick sentinel
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i mean i like it

ember arrow
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weep is back

lusty grotto
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wb Weep

outer dew
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i run a pretty boring tmog tbh

lusty grotto
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where were you this week

sick sentinel
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i'm back for tmog

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uhh

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uhhhh

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terraria with Kage

lusty grotto
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ohh

sick sentinel
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the first time we played was for like 13 hours

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so

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we get caught up in it

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sorry boys

ember arrow
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marok manually typing NAvy Seals copypasta

sick sentinel
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what the fuck did you just fucking say about me

daring marlin
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LOL

lusty grotto
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lol levko

oblique garnet
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Marok is gonna do some rainman tier math to prove his point

sick sentinel
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every shield in the game is ugly

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prove me wrong

ember arrow
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somethign got deleted

oblique garnet
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Bulwark of azzinoth

ember arrow
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sniff sniff

outer dew
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i like the four towers shield

lusty grotto
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you're right, i need a plate shaped shield for my chef outfit

ember arrow
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just use a vanilla shield

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they look like potatoes

sick sentinel
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theres no good blood elf shields

ember arrow
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theres not good blood elfs*

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there, corrected

sick sentinel
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racist

ember arrow
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yes, im clint westwood

sick sentinel
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why cant i just double 2 hander for prot ??

lusty grotto
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double shield fixed that for you

outer dew
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why can't I use a bear as my shield

lusty grotto
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that'd be sick

outer dew
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why can't i use a DK as my shield tbh

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nvm

lusty grotto
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lol

outer dew
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they'd be too squishy

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:^)

lusty grotto
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oof

outer dew
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oh

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darkee is playing prot warrior

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interesting

ember arrow
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they'd break instantly

Tofu

why can't i use a DK as my shield tbh

in #protection ·
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2.5 melees and theyre gone

outer dew
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ooh

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darkee playing prot warrior in a +19 temple

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👁

sick sentinel
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bro look

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blue

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the signature horde color :)

candid vine
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How's prot warrior after the patch? I have a peot pally and prot warrior about equally geared, not sure which to main into next tier

sick sentinel
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main what you like best

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nobody's going to take u if u suck at fotm

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WeSmart

daring marlin
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we

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smat

lusty grotto
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youre learning weep

outer dew
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don't listen to guil

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not even #2 warrior on sarg

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smh

lusty grotto
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im proud of you 😃

daring marlin
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I’m a warlock now

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leave me alone

sick sentinel
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literally no shield looks good

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fuck this gay earth

daring marlin
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they need to add a hide shield option

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like ffxiv

sick sentinel
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agreed

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i can't stand all this ugly shit

daring marlin
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same

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I can never get a good shield match to certain gear

sick sentinel
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not to mention the blood elf heritage armor has a chest texture that looks like it's from 2006

daring marlin
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like when I was a void elf

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NOTHING looked good with the heritage

sick sentinel
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look at stomach/arms

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:XXXX

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that's on high texture quality

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Loser elf

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typical

oblique garnet
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Smh i wanted to see what marok had to say but now hes gone😪

sick sentinel
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I promised myself that I would switch my character's race

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if I ever got tusks of mannoroth

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and i havent

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so i havent

lusty grotto
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yikes looking at new prot rerolls in LFR on my mage

sick sentinel
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nimchip

lusty grotto
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died to 2 packs of fetid trash

sick sentinel
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let me carry you

lusty grotto
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both of them

sick sentinel
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let me carry u

wet hornet
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U guys r bad tanks and should reroll dk. L2p meta

lusty grotto
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going for that talent review

ancient reef
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Are we fotm now

sick sentinel
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iv, bsc, devastator, ravager best talent setup

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prove me wrong

lusty grotto
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tank #1

daring marlin
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we clap for days

sick sentinel
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NEVER SURRENDER

daring marlin
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ABC

sick sentinel
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RAVAGER

lusty grotto
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ok tank #2 has good talents

sick sentinel
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OH NO

daring marlin
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Always be clapping

pine ibex
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You guys use ravenger right? /s

sick sentinel
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Delete that @lusty grotto

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HIS SHOE SOUP CLAPS WILL BE TOO WEAK

lusty grotto
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it's talent review INR

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it has to be posted

sick sentinel
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this is what i play :)

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You need to delete that, its tracking shit tier all over the discord

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why its the best talents

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ah youre right

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i know what i did wrong

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Its so much, we cant clean it all up

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there we go :)

wet hornet
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@sick sentinel werent you using those on 2nd world ghuun kill on mythic?

sick sentinel
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indeed

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that was definitely 100% a boss kill and ranking that I definitely was at and contributed to :)

lusty grotto
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lol

sick sentinel
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private logs though

primal crypt
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Yikes

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Came at a bad time

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Bye

last loom
#

completed my first duengon

lusty grotto
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nooo yamo dont go

last loom
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it was 12 waycrest

primal crypt
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Yikes

last loom
primal crypt
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Everywhere

sick sentinel
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How many times did u die

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@primal crypt yamo do you hate me

final mist
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🤔

last loom
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well

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i did pretty massive pulls

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maybe 3 times

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we timed it

primal crypt
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13k lel

last loom
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its my first time playing prot

primal crypt
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You gotta pump up those numbers

last loom
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first duengon

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i respec prot from arms i dont know anything about the spec

primal crypt
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Learn to clap your booty cheeks

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Weep over here got it all figured out

last loom
primal crypt
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🍆

last loom
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is this normal dmg breakdown?

primal crypt
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Gotta clap harder my man

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Those are fotm numbers

oblique garnet
#

Pretty much yeah

stoic bluff
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is the new alchemist stone anygood for tanking? compared to blockades.

last loom
#

holy shit

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200casts on devestator

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1% of dmg

primal crypt
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It's pretty good

last loom
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thatts fucking awful

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devestate

primal crypt
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Devastate

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Is top tier

sick sentinel
primal crypt
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Need more

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Lmao

sick sentinel
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Lmao

primal crypt
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Wtf is that weep

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Jesus

sick sentinel
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that's my very real warcraftlogs profile

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the day I killed mythic ghuun world 2nd

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with limit

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on illidaddy (US)

primal crypt
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Yes

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Yes

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I like

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Booty clap

wet hornet
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See. His talent choices are valid

primal crypt
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Brb, gotta wash this fromunda

sick sentinel
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it just means I know more about prot than everyone

last loom
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340 shield is that a big problem?

oblique garnet
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Yup

primal crypt
sick sentinel
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and that nimchip shouldn't be bullying that player for his talents

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in LFR

primal crypt
oblique garnet
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You take alot more damage

primal crypt
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Brb

last loom
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my healing was really awful in the duengon

sick sentinel
last loom
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i was spoiled though

sick sentinel
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yea

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keep IP up more

last loom
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mistweaver healer

sick sentinel
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ez healing

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it's not on the gcd

last loom
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i got outhealed by the SP

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lmao

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i rather smack

sick sentinel
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yes because SP has vamp touch

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leech is part of its toolkit

last loom
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myoverall is like

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4khps monkaS

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thats low

sick sentinel
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do more ignoring of pain

last loom
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i should probably have alot more

sick sentinel
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have you tried ignoring more pain

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have you tried installing two weakauras that tell you when you don't have battle shout in your group?

📎 unknown.png
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it might increase your hps

oblique garnet
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@outer dew theres no real benefit in using last stand before shield block charges btw the math just doesnt add up and youre essentially losing 18s of sb uptime initially🤔

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This is ofc if its solo tanked boss

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It doesnt matter in a scenario with tank swaps

narrow abyss
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Late what’s your twitch

oblique garnet
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You should be able to see it on my discord profile

narrow abyss
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Kk

daring patrol
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how's briny barnacle as a DPS trinket? other options are a butcher's block and a fathoms. first 2 are both 370

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second trinket is a syringe

primal crypt
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Barnacle trash

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Block syringe

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Fathoms is high dps

daring patrol
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going for purely DPS here for farm content/low keys

lusty grotto
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yeah yamo is right

sick sentinel
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ok i just killed a +10 atal key

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pog B(

daring marlin
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poggers

sick sentinel
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a mage called me shit

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but he did less damage than me :X

daring marlin
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eat them

lusty grotto
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mmmhmmm

sick sentinel
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on fort

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:XXX

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I mean he's not wrong

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i'm shit

daring marlin
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shut up weep

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doofus

sick sentinel
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but it is funny that a frost mage was only doing 6.5k overall dps

daring marlin
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that’s not funny

hollow zephyr
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is there any prot warrior resources on dungeons? like more viable routes for example

sick sentinel
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yea idk i do like 15-16k as fury if the tank pulls quick

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yea

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two routes per

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one for everyone and one for specific group comps

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(the "expert" routes)

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with method dungeon tools import codes

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specifically tuned for this week's affixes

daring marlin
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I LOVE cshb for m+

hollow zephyr
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but nothing specfic for war? like packs that have more blockable dmg vs ones that dont

sick sentinel
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spoiler alert

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the expert routes don't include prot war

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: (

hollow zephyr
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feelsbadman

daring marlin
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no mass grip

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womp womp

sick sentinel
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actually it's brewmaster

daring marlin
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orly

sick sentinel
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mhm

daring marlin
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hm

sick sentinel
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i hav eno idea what packs to pull

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rip

daring marlin
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but yeah weep that mage is a crying shame

sick sentinel
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or how to properly kite the bois that do their shambly poison-on-the-ground

daring marlin
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badum tish

sick sentinel
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yea my dps was garbo too

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cus i was too spooked

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kept wondering why i was wiping the group

daring marlin
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Those dudes are annoying af

sick sentinel
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some1 pulled 3 reanimated raptors during first rezan pull

daring marlin
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lol

sick sentinel
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and 2 ppl died to melee cus i did not see it

daring marlin
#

elic

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epic*

sick sentinel
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im not sure how to mass gen threat outside of tc

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i don't think the trash mobs think i'm cool enough for them

daring marlin
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take the thunderclap radius talent and clap harder

sick sentinel
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oh hey

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ur right

daring marlin
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!!!!

sick sentinel
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im taking raid talents

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which are also kind of the same as dungeon talents

daring marlin
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kinda

primal crypt
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Specifc routes for warrior LMAO

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😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

sweet magnet
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sorry quick question does anyone know of Servant Splitter proc on 1 target or more than that?

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doesn't sy anything on the guide

lusty grotto
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it's pretty bad

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just 1 target iirc

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but if its your highest dps weapon use it

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i had a log where we tested it

outer dew
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@oblique garnet si, you're not wrong

lusty grotto
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but i cant 100% remember if it was single target only so i could be wrong

outer dew
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but very rarely do you have a scenario

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where you should be solo tanking a boss

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for raid anyway

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lusty grotto
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btw i might stream some m+ tonight but there will be spanish yelling so :X

daring marlin
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do it

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I’ll watch

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I’m used to spanish yelling

lusty grotto
#

yeah just waiting on my team to log on

daring marlin
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Tofu and I will judge you

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/s

lusty grotto
#

😄

primal crypt
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Si

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Let me watch

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And yell in spanish too

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Marok is typing

daring marlin
#

rofl

primal crypt
daring marlin
lusty grotto
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i'm hoping it's something like "fuk"

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shit i made myself laugh

fierce juniper
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@crude ether, your arguement is that using LS on pull is better because you get more Last Stands and the block uptime is the same. That's not true. You lose uptime by doing that.

Let's say a fight is 2 minutes and 45 seconds long. With 15% Haste SB has a 14 second recharge time buit to make this simple say SB has a 15 sec CD. And let's say LS is a 1 minute CD.

If you use LS on pull you don't have SBlock recharging while it's up.

LS on pull - 15 seconds of LS, followed by 12 seconds of SB, 3 second gap, then 6 more seconds of SB, 9 second gap, etc...
SB on pull - 12 seconds of SB, followed by 15 seconds of LS, 6 more seconds of SB (next charge comes 3 seconds into this SB), 6 more seconds of SB, 6 second gap, etc...

Those are both 45 second sequences.

LS on pull gets you 33 seconds of Block uptime.
SB on pull gets you 39 seconds of Block uptime, aka another Sblock charge. And actually, as you'll see, using SB on pull always grants an extra 2 charges worth of SBlock over using LS on pull.

Sequences extending for the full 2:45 duration:

LS on pull - 15 LS, 12 SB, 3 G, 6 SB, 9 G, 6 SB, 9 G, 15 LS, 12 SB, 3 G, 6 SB, 9 G, 6 SB, 9 G, 15 LS, 12 SB, 3 G, 6 SB, 9 G
111 seconds of Block uptime.

SB on pull - 12 SB, 15 LS, 12 SB, 6 G, 6 SB, 9 G, 6 SB, 9 G, 15 LS, 12 SB, 3 G, 6 SB, 9 G, 6 SB, 9G, 6 SB, 15 LS, 6 SB, 3 G, 6 SB
123 seconds of Block uptime, or an extra 2 Shield Block charges.

LS on pull is a Block uptime loss, plain and simple.

AM roughtly cuts cooldowns in half, which equates to gaining/spending 10 rage per second. LS is generally used within ~20 seconds of a given fight. Or rather after 2/3 Sblock uses depending on haste. With a 15 second SB CD you can use LS after the first two SBs without losing SB recharge time. So in this case that would be at 12 seconds into the fight. So say you use LS on pull to "have LS up more".

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By using LS on pull, you get 20 extra seconds of AM working on LS, or, in other words 200 rage is spent towards AM.
But, that doesn't really matter, because when using SB on pull that LS is not on cooldown, so you're not "losing" anything. LS is used essentially on cooldown in both cases, and in both cases have the same cooldown.
The only thing you're doing is making LS available 12-21 seconds earlier than if you use SBlock on pull. So no, you don't get to use LS more. You'll get an extra LS use if the fight happens to end 12-21 seconds you would be able to use LS if using SBlock on pull. That's it.

Not only is that more than likely NOT going to happen in most situations, even if it does, having an extra LS right at the end of a fight is more often than not not going to help you in any significant way.

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srry kinda late but i had to afk for a bit :^)

lusty grotto
#

worth it

primal crypt
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oh yes

daring marlin
#

welp

fierce juniper
#

tl;dr if you use LS/Bolster on pull instead of SBlock you're a big dummy

lusty grotto
#

lol

daring marlin
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I love it.

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But he's a cutting edge warrior prior to 8.1

primal crypt
crystal creek
#

I mean I understand what he meant, but the proofs in the numbers.

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And you can't deny those.

vocal nimbus
#

Hi @fierce juniper

fierce juniper
#

hello

vocal nimbus
#

Have you seen my new doggos?

astral crystal
#

marok is cute. CUTE!

last loom
#

ey im learning

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3chested freehold 10

daring marlin
#

good job

lusty grotto
#

my stream is live

daring marlin
#

link idiot

lusty grotto
#

its super simple

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to find 😄

daring marlin
#

I need entertainment while I'm doing this wonderful darkshore warfront

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I hate you

lusty grotto
#

/nimchip

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😛

crude ether
#

@fierce juniper First off, you're right with what you said and I appreciate what you do here and I'm only here to theory craft and am not trying to make enemies, friends at that. Though I stated earlier this was for raid tanking and not mythic plus or sustained tanking over a period of time which is what you showed here,

This is for when you tank in bursts of windows 25-27 seconds which is usually what is needed for fights such as mythrax, g'huun and others where the melees do not continue to 30 seconds due to faster swaps or the magic buster

the purpose of this strategy is to open up more windows to tank prolonged earlier in the fight and being able to use last stand within 2 instances of pulling threat from the boss. also increasing HPS considerably
through the healing of LS. Although I would only recommend this strategy with high haste as it allows more abuse of Vanguard, Anger Management and the healing throughput

LS 15 SB 12 SR [For the Buster] Swap

This opener would allow more frequent abuse of Vanguard and the healing throughput of LS although YES a hindrance to extended tanking although no hindrance to raid tanking something many are misunderstanding
This is theory crafting people and yes sometimes it won't make sense at first but if you think about it long enough yes their is more then one way to play prot warrior in a situation and people should be open to that

jolly wasp
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Guys sorry for the (maybe) newb question but Im gearing up my prot warrior (375 atm) and I dont know which trinkets to try and target through M+. I know the raid ones from Mythrax and G'huun are pretty decent but what about the others? Im assuming the Rezan one that procs haste is pretty good aswell..anything else?

dusky mica
#

Jes Howler, Mchimba's ritual bandages

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Animated Vial is good for damage

daring marlin
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It's pretty good for phat IPs too

jolly wasp
#

right now im using 370 animated vial and I have the 355 version of mythrax/g'huun trinkets, also I got a 370 "Ancient Tuskarr Sea Charm" from the Tortollans emissary (STR stat and versa random proc)

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I feel like damage is already really good so maybe it's better to focus on something defensive like the trinket from mythrax?

dusky mica
#

how do you focus on something that drops once per week?

steel mauve
#

you wont gain any thing from more defense

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you keep gaining from more dmg

jolly wasp
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sorry by "focus on" I meant "give priority to that if I have it"

steel mauve
#

once you are ok with how defensive you are you should focus on dmg to get bosses dead quicker

jolly wasp
#

Well Im used to Blood DK so the M+ runs sometimes still feel really weird, in m+10 I sometimes feel like a piece of paper compared to my DK, but that might also be due to the Dk being like 387 with optimised gear

dusky mica
#

You should probably use Mythrax if you're a DK main

steel mauve
#

i mean technically optimized gear for prot warrior is highest ilvl

fierce juniper
#

Lova, what do you mean it would allow more frequent "abuse of Vanguard" and more LS healing. You do not get extra uses of LS by using it on pull unless the fights ends in a very specific time window where had you not used it on pull it wouldn't be up. In which case you get 1 extra LS at the very end of the fight.
You don't get anything extra out of AM either as I showed above.

If you're on a fight where swaps somewhat easily allow for 100% effective block uptime, then it doesn't really matter if you use LS or SB on pull, because you'll have 100% effective uptime either way.
However, going by your example where a tank buster happens at 17 seconds into the fight or whatever, you'd be much better off NOT using LS on the pull. 12 SB 15 LS is the same thing except you have LS up for the tank buster, which is strictly better. There might be some timings where using LS on pull is better if it lines up in a way where you get to have LS up for an additonal mechanic hit, and that's only if you're already at 100% effective Block uptime.

Anyway, to say that using LS on pull instead of Shield Block is better for raiding is objectively false in 99% of situations.

jolly wasp
#

Ok guys thanks, it's 3 am here so time for bed 😄 catch you around

austere oar
#

Was there raid testing on the PTR yet ?

stone crag
#

yes multiple times

austere oar
#

Was hesitating between going prot or vdh but my guess was tending more on protw

crude ether
#

Basically all I'm saying @fierce juniper in this theory is with the extra use of LS you get more survivability and an extra 80k heal which could make or break a fight.

Although yes in most situations this strategy is flawed for sustained tanking and physical busters, for fights specific such as mythrax it's viable where HP is a large factor it is very viable as well as phase 3 ghuun where landing a final last stand could keep you up through the final damage of the encounter through the max hp 30% buff and 30% healing throughput of all the used LS, it's very similar to how IP heals

It isn't dramatically superior, although their are moments at 1-2 SB charges where LS is the better option. That's what I mean here and that these 1% situations can be calculated

daring marlin
#

nice hydrocore @lusty grotto

lusty grotto
#

lol

thorn fiber
#

Man you gotta love that feeling of being 361 ilvl and still rocking 320 pants...damn loot pinata for belts though.

fringe marten
#

i know it's only 355 but has anyone tried the sanguinated alchemists stone?

lapis wraith
#

is KhaniKhan's WA worth using? or does anyone have a dece recommendation for a beginner prot war?

lusty grotto
#

i use it

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if you mean khakhan

lapis wraith
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that's the one

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Not 100% sure what it does for me yet but I'll figure it out

stone crag
#

WA suites are mostly preferential anyways, khakhan's has been pretty credible

sand egret
#

real pros use Alt +Z

ancient reef
#

grouped with a dk who was pulling like 10hps

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10khps

daring marlin
#

that's all?

sand egret
#

sick story

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I had brisket tonight, it was tasty

fringe marten
#

you are a prot warrior, unless it was a raid..why were you with a blood dk?

ancient reef
#

did a run as dps never seen the quacking affix before

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this is my first season of m+

fringe marten
#

I haven't seen quacking either, that's ducking scary

sand egret
#

and what is the point of posting a dks hps in here?

ancient reef
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oh i was just wondering what approach i would use if i was tanking instead of him

sand egret
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this is the PROT channel

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well we're different tanks

daring marlin
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We'll have much less HPS but our DTPS will be significantly lower too.

fringe marten
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also, if you were dps then you should be recounting this tale of Deathknight heroism in one of the channels where the filthy dps hang out, the pilavs and Bahjeera's of the world... this is a place for divine beings of light; prot warriors.

sand egret
#

so that's like saying "I saw a Fire mage pull 20k dps, so i"m going to post in Fury to ask how I can do that"

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all aside, you can't really look at a DKs hps and try and emulate it as a Prot warrior. Dk's are literally designed around healing. We are not

fringe marten
#

Now..if you said "I went to do bareback brawl..(still the best worldquest ever invented) and saw a prot warrior shield slam a DK so hard, his character was deleted and he had a heart attack IRL.." then I want to know how to do that shield slam~.

sand egret
#

uh yeah

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that would be amazing

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prob ran HR

fringe marten
#

I just don't know how you have bareback brawl in game. Then have a new xpac supposedly designed around alliance/horde fighting...and then DON'T have a new bareback brawl??

sand egret
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😆

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well why would it be the bareback brawl, when it clearly should be nautically themed with us on Sharks

fringe marten
#

because you can't goat ram someone off a cliff?

sand egret
#

what if you could ram someone into a roving Kraken

fringe marten
#

naw..if you could shoot them into the sky, and they explode like a firework. I'll take it.

sand egret
#

🤔

daring marlin
#

blade

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sup

sand egret
#

hello

zinc mauve
#

dragon charge should be baseline and the collision should be improved to more consistently allow me to blast people off of lumbermill in arathi basin

little rain
daring marlin
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lol

sand egret
#

dammm you traqv

#

i wanna get that shit

sick sentinel
#

That looks dumb, I want it

astral crystal
#

So what’s the deal with the mount

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Does it fly

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Can it swat multiple people

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Seat

opaque pagoda
#

Looks like a boss from half-life 1

sacred roost
#

island expeditions still the best way to level?

daring marlin
#

all I know about it is

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you turn into it

stone crag
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@astral crystal it flies

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When using the mount, you transform into the mount directly. You can then carry up to 4 more people.

sick sentinel
#

Ok but does it have eyes in the inside, and if so can it tell us why the sugary cinnamon swirls in the cereal are to be feared?

fringe marten
#

how many people actually get the bloodborne reference here?

lusty grotto
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i was a hunter too

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lol we fucked up too much tonight

lost mauve
#

Prot is so fun now

formal kayak
#

hi

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is brace for impact good?

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other option is archive

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(not raiding as prot)

supple path
#

BfI is a great tanking trait though archive is more popular in m+ for pure dps purposes.

limber tulip
#

@raven ore

#

islands?

ashen flower
#

so what are 3 must-have azerite traits for m+ ?

mild maple
#

DC is the only must have

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Beyond that many people seem to enjoy stacking 2 archive for the DPS

ashen flower
#

hmm ok

mild maple
#

Some of the new traits like Intimidating Presence and Bastion of Might could be strong for pulling very big packs or in high keys generally

ashen flower
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hmm nice

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ty

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are we any near top tier tanks for m+ now?

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DK seem to be paper

tranquil sand
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How do you decide on when to change to a higher ilvl azerite piece that has worst stats, when neither of them has DC or uldir archive

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is it a bit of a judge case by case scenario

mild maple
#

How does a higher ilvl azerite piece of have worst stats?

tranquil sand
#

i meant traits

mild maple
#

Regardless Brace for Impact and Iron Fortress are still fine defensive traits, especially if you're getting a decent ilvl upgrade

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The only trait that's hard to ditch for a decent ilvl jump is deafening crash

tranquil sand
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its more like

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the one expanded on the left is 375, the equippped 360

mild maple
#

Callous Reprisal is a pretty strong DPS trait that scales well with more targets

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If you feel like you don't need the tankiness from BoI then that's a pretty straightforward upgrade

tranquil sand
#

ok tnx

ashen flower
#

@mild maple u seem to have good knowlage, would u go 1x DC 1x bastion 1x rchive or 1x dc 2x archive?

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for m+

mild maple
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I would play DC 2x Archive, but I don't really push keys. The strength of Bastion is in knowing that it'll let you pull and burn a bigger pull than you otherwise would have. So I guess if you're trying a big pull and dying then maybe Bastion could help.

hot locust
#

Realistically archive wont matter in a month and some change anyways because all the higher ilvl pieces wont have it.

ashen flower
#

also fair enough but for now @hot locust

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wanna farm few 10+ today

mild maple
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If you're only doing 10s then double archive is fine.

ashen flower
#

well 10+ 12 13 14 15

mild maple
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I'd probably use double archive until the 14/15 and beyond that it's going to depend on the instance and what kind of pulls you want to do

ashen flower
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this is

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archive part is 375

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bastion part is 390

mild maple
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In that case I'd run Bastion for everything

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Well, maybe not everything but for all the above M+

ashen flower
#

kk

oblique garnet
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1 archive 1 dc 1 bom if those are your highest ilvl pieces

ashen flower
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reprisal instead archive would be my highest

oblique garnet
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For uldir drop ilvl for archive but for m+ its your call

steady fiber
#

Hi guys, what azerite trait i should stack? Or for prot warrior that's a bad idea to do ?

ashen flower
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u dont stack anything

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1x DC is must

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rest is optional

marble cipher
#

Guys, what's a good M+ to focus on for a 1h weapon?

waxen cradle
#

I almost always try to run 1 DC, 1 BFI, and 1 IF

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however I change to 2 BFI for M+ depending on the situation

steady fiber
#

like what situation ?

marble cipher
#

Also, isn't BoM a must trait?

oblique garnet
#

It isnt but its the best for m+ damage wise

mild maple
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@marble cipher Atal has the only haste 1 hander of the dungeons I think

rough jasper
#

Sethralis has one too

mild maple
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Ah you're right. Also both drop shields.

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So decent dungeons if you're lacking those.

steady fiber
#

btw and for SB i should spam it when i can or i need to time it in m+ ?

marble cipher
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K, will focus a bit on those, thanks

waxen cradle
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Where I want to get the on demand extra block for teeming, and or where I want to have just overall higher on demand block for raiding mainly for me

rough jasper
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On most trash pulls, just spam it. On bosses there are some mechanics you want to time your SB

waxen cradle
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plus slightly harder hitting shield slams is always nice even if its not huge

steady fiber
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and for stats what i should focus how many haste etc is my goal ?

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like 35% haste?

waxen cradle
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pins will lead you to where to find your stat itemization but yeah you can pretty much never have too much haste

rough jasper
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there is no real cap to haste

steady fiber
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so i gues it's like haste vers, haste mastery items mainly best to eq

rough jasper
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right

waxen cradle
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yeah with relevance to item level with the exception of 1 DC trait

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DC is still worth a literal ton of item levels so that being the one exception

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otherwise if its 45 item levels or more then yes it would be ok to replace DC but otherwise no and you should still try to have at least one of your azerite pieces with DC if its your highest ilvl or not

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As I said the 45 ilvl rule

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either way get 1 DC and then go off of item level as it will not be huge game changing beyond that

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If you can get pieces with BFI, and IF then yes definitely go for those but if you cannot do not pass up a item level upgrade to use anything besides DC

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As the pins will lead you to discover any increase to stats, and by that meaning secondary stats is better then not gaining them in favor of keeping the ones you want unless its like ~5 item levels and then I let it slide sometimes

steady fiber
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And pawn is bad idea to use i gues ?

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for prot i mean

mild maple
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Given that we have no sim profile to generate stat weights to begin with

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I would think so

oblique garnet
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There is no pawn string so ywah

mild maple
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Itemisation is very simple, if it's higher ilvl you should equip it. Maybe keep a haste ring over a non-haste ring if the upgrade is only 5 ilvls or so.

oblique garnet
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Just remember on shield ilvl>sockets etc

wide girder
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Ppl can u share ur dtps per one ~12key

oblique garnet
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Havent logged one key since 8.1

pale vigil
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Vile of Animated Blood or Darkmoon Deck Blockades?

neon tangle
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depends on if you need the extra stam

sick sentinel
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@pale vigil vial for extra damage blockades for extra survIvability

pale vigil
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I was thinking vial now with the recent changes

sick sentinel
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@ashen flower as long as you have dc in the highest ilvl piece possible, you just go with ilvl

ashen flower
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@sick sentinel rly?

sick sentinel
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Even if you take out bom or archive for CR is still better

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There are no bad prot warr traits

ashen flower
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bloodspot sux i thought

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my 390 head has bloodsport

sick sentinel
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Same, and it's good

ashen flower
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mhmhm

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so 1x DC 375 1x bloodsport 390 and 1x BoM

sick sentinel
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Do I want to replace it? Yes, but not because its bad, but because it has UF for fury

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If those 2 are your highest ilvl, sure

ashen flower
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y

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rest is all 375

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got like 25x 275 aprts :*/

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parts*

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375*

sick sentinel
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BoM is really really good for m+

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And bloodsport really helps with magic damage

ashen flower
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whatsd about 2nd ring

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overhelming power earthlink or azerite veins

sick sentinel
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Oh, don't ask me about that, me and azerite veins are not in good terms

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So I will not answer objectively

ashen flower
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😄

oblique garnet
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AV probably still best out of those

sick sentinel
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I would personally go with OP, because azerite veins is really unreliable, but wait for an answer from a yellow or a better player than me, like late

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Oh late is here

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:D

ashen flower
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^^ k

oblique garnet
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but i agree it is unreliable to an extent

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Still heals alot in m+

sick sentinel
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I would agree that it is a lot better in m+ than raids

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And basically if your healer is a disc or resto druid, it is really really good

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Because you rarely get topped

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But I run with a holy pala a lot, so I get topped all the time

oblique garnet
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I run with resto druid ^

sick sentinel
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That's why you like it :p

oblique garnet
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it heals less than my impassive visage tho

sick sentinel
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Late can you fact check me about what I said above?

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Don't wanna spread wrong info

oblique garnet
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About what?

sick sentinel
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Azerite pieces

oblique garnet
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Seems good if those are his highest pieces + 1 DC

sick sentinel
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Ok, perfect :D

oblique garnet
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Im only dropping ilvl for 2xBoM just for the memes and i dont feel the need for additional survivability

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Dont recommend it for everyone tho XD

sick sentinel
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Also, impressive visage is really good because its reliable and has basically 100% "uptime"

oblique garnet
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Pretty much yeah

sick sentinel
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Like, it procs on cd

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Not sure how I feel about gemhide btw

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Because things that Chuck me are aoe sometimes so avoidance should be helpful (like the shadow damage cleave in manor) but I don't know what damage is affected by avoidance and what isn't

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Ofc the armor is always helpful

oblique garnet
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the shadow cleave is hella stupid in manor

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You can block or SR it

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10/10

sick sentinel
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I might be bad but things week I found the right wing of manor substantially easier than the left

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On the left I was pulling 2 packs at a time and on the right I was popping engineering belt/skysteps to pull as big as infested allowed me to

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+15 btw

oblique garnet
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Well yeah right wing doesnt have those guards

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Its probably easier since you can block the ranged attacks now

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but its a slower route overall

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Since it takes a while for you to reach first boss

pale vigil
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But easier completion

spiral crypt
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this engeneering belt can still fail, right?

sick sentinel
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No

pale vigil
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I have never had it fail

spiral crypt
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no? .. n1

sick sentinel
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In m+ and raids you always get 70% speed

spiral crypt
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ah, thx for info

sick sentinel
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Whereas in outworld content you either get 150%, a dot or flown up in the air

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With varying durations on the speed

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They made it consistent for "competitive" content

pale vigil
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The engy belt shield needs a buff imo

sick sentinel
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I used it in the start and I was quite good, now though that I pull bigger and bigger I want the speed

pale vigil
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Yeah the kite is real at higher keys

sick sentinel
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You can use the speed to kite, you can use it for the back hand in KR

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I use it to pull big mainly :P

oblique garnet
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you can just deal with the backhand on kr with taunts

sick sentinel
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Requires coordination with pugs tho

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When I have people in comms, yeah that's how I deal with it

oblique garnet
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also what engineering belt speed? o.O you mean nitro boots

sick sentinel
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Well my favourite way of dealing with backhand is the parry it

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Yeah, that thing

ashen flower
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hmm

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done 12 +2 quite easy, casters still doing huge dmg tho

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easyer to tank 3 melee grpups then 1 group with 2 casters

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"working as intended"

oblique garnet
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Well yeah its fortified week and if casters are free casting it gets rough

ashen flower
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y

sick sentinel
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Big damage

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And yeah, that's what I was taking about in manor

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Right wing has no casters

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Well, worms but who cares

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You can spell reflect the infest cast and the worm dies

ashen flower
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oh, dident know that

oblique garnet
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the worms are w/e

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we basically pulled the entire right wing and just exploded them all

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cant wait to get rid of infested tho

sick sentinel
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Yeah exactly

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Skystep to pull and hc leap back

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100 k dps easy

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I wanna get my second BoM but it is on the same slot my DC is

oblique garnet
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rip

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next tier tho

sick sentinel
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I will buy a 385 helm and just hope it has either DC (best scenario) or it has bom (second best)

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If it has dc then I will have 1 dc 2 bom, all 390

oblique garnet
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I wouldnt recommend buying since they dont even have the extra tier

sick sentinel
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I am playing both fury and prot and the trait I was using in fury was nerfed by 75%

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I wanna use my helm for fury because it has the bis trait

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and it has BS for prot

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so any result will be fine

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I can start saving up after this piece basically