protection

[uneven mason]

😉

[outer dew]

Lpl

Still adjusting to ip off gcd

[uneven mason]

I mean you CAN rage starve easy now with IP off GCD

yeah

that was my issue first night

[outer dew]

Noticed I almost killed myself with that

[uneven mason]

I'd blow myu load into IP and then be like OWATMYSB?

[outer dew]

Lmao

Yea

[uneven mason]

and have to coveer with LS

[hushed cobalt]

ah, was thinking that in fortified weeks we would get a pretty good amount of free revenges and you free revenge before devastate

[primal crypt]

I only got kettle corn @lusty grotto

[uneven mason]

Yeah, but why

[outer dew]

You lose a lot damage from BV then

Lol

[uneven mason]

BV is way more damage

and Veng RPS is not as good as you think

Marok wrote an essay

[outer dew]

In avatar TC is priority

[uneven mason]

like 2 full paragraphs as why Veng looks good on paper

[modern brook]

Revenge is like 5k crits ~

[uneven mason]

but it isn't really.

back in beta

and it still hold strue

[outer dew]

In avatar you're gcd locked

[uneven mason]

you're either pressing SS or TC or DS 😄

more or less

but it comes down the pipe, revenge just isn't pressed that often

Unless you wanna big dick show off on the DPS

[outer dew]

Like only in low keys

[uneven mason]

then you alternate TC/Rev

yeah

[outer dew]

Do I meme with revenge

[modern brook]

thats what i do

[primal crypt]

I spam revenge

[uneven mason]

that bigass room in temple

[primal crypt]

Revenge and Devastate

[modern brook]

I only use rfdt as my generation

[uneven mason]

pull em all meme Deeps

[modern brook]

Then reveng

[outer dew]

lol

i don't in tha room

the amount of times

the healer focused on orb over loving me

[primal crypt]

NIM

[outer dew]

OI

DON'T TALK TO NIM

HE'S WORKING

VERY HARD

[primal crypt]

My company just acquired the claims for Lyft

[outer dew]

NO DISTRACTIONS

WHERE IS SANTA HAT

[primal crypt]

Nim

NIM

[outer dew]

YAMORINO

WHERE IS SANTA HAT

[hushed cobalt]

Didn't Lyft have some scandal a few months ago?

[lusty grotto]

sry whats up

oh

[old zephyr]

HM i'm embarassed Because i'm pretty sure this has been asked yesterday.
Would the First BoM be worth dtoping 15 ilvl,
Would compete with BFI

[lusty grotto]

thats good lots of work haha

[primal crypt]

Nah @old zephyr

Keep higher ilvl

[outer dew]

maybe

[primal crypt]

Only dc you should think of

[outer dew]

what lvl m+ are you doing?

[lusty grotto]

i dont think 15 is worth

[primal crypt]

BUT

late did test it

[outer dew]

at some points in m+

i play around my avatar

[primal crypt]

It was really good for dmg

But his gear is high enough that 15 ilvl didnt really make or break his pulls

Well, 30 ilvls

[old zephyr]

I'm 376

[primal crypt]

Since he went double bomb

Bom

[outer dew]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[old zephyr]

Mostly doing 10ish

[lusty grotto]

nahh breh

[outer dew]

it wouldn't break my gear set

lol

yea

[primal crypt]

You have any problems surviving? @outer dew

[outer dew]

that's fine

no

[primal crypt]

Oops

@old zephyr

Scrolled too fast lol

[outer dew]

if he's just doing 10's

his ilvl is fine

[primal crypt]

Np

[old zephyr]

Usually no

[primal crypt]

At 10s

[lusty grotto]

he will drop down a lot though

in ilvl i mean

[primal crypt]

Ehhhhhhhh

370 right? @old zephyr

[lusty grotto]

i mean

[old zephyr]

Yeah

[primal crypt]

You're dropping from 385s

[lusty grotto]

you should just test it

if you have no problem surviving

[primal crypt]

Not a problem to use 370s

[lusty grotto]

then keep it

[old zephyr]

I'll give à try.
At worse i'll deplete à key

[primal crypt]

Queue into one

#notmykey

[lusty grotto]

lol

[primal crypt]

Everyone is accepting warriors because they think we got a skill boost or something

Little do they know 😂 😂 😂 😂

Its the player not the shield

[lusty grotto]

lol that's pretty much it 100%

[primal crypt]

Seriously though

Groups are about to get super cucked

Little johnny slam ravager over here doesnt even press shield block

Gonna get hammered first pull

[lusty grotto]

yepp

[primal crypt]

And show that warriors still need to care lol

[lusty grotto]

late is getting some dick suckage right now

[hushed cobalt]

1 raid in lfg for mythic taloc/mother
"are you dps?" no i queued as tank "ok" andddd nothing

[primal crypt]

Lmao

Did you accidently select tank? No...... silence

[lusty grotto]

sounds like you parried a bullet

[hushed cobalt]

ah haaaa, the lead is a veng dh, with 2 whole m taloc kills

[oblique garnet]

19k on fh 11 not bad not bad

[lusty grotto]

meanwhile on my paladin "Oh lets get these two 380 bdks for H Taloc" then they get railed

"bdks are good"

lolllll

BDKs on raid @ 8.1

[hushed cobalt]

i just wanna get the helm from mother cause thats prob better than my 385 CR/siphon/hatchet one

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[oblique garnet]

@primal crypt idk if you saw that freehold but thats good example what bom can do XD

[lusty grotto]

i tuned in @ the dick sucking

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet wait wait

Overall 19k?

[oblique garnet]

yes

on 11

[primal crypt]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[hushed cobalt]

title was changed to "M Taloc Pally Tank"

[primal crypt]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Im dropping ilvl

As soon as I get home

[lusty grotto]

those kids tsar

those kids

[hushed cobalt]

tsk tsk

[primal crypt]

I found my bom pieces

[lusty grotto]

not worth

[primal crypt]

Worth

[lusty grotto]

tsar

[primal crypt]

Totally worth

And Im speccing ravager

[lusty grotto]

oh not you yamo

[primal crypt]

More dmg

50%party incoming boys

[hushed cobalt]

prob cause no aotc on my warr cause when we got go ghuun we had 0 locks and 10 people

[lusty grotto]

:x

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet ill replay your vod later

[lusty grotto]

you can aotc in pugs easily, just look for guild groups

[primal crypt]

Cant watch it right now

[oblique garnet]

I have no clue how to make a vod tho XD

[primal crypt]

Stupid building blocks my cell service

Its auto

[lusty grotto]

should be auto

[primal crypt]

Twitch does it for you

[lusty grotto]

since youre not partnered it will be the last video if you don't add favorites

you can "save" them by marking it as favorite but i think you have a limit

[primal crypt]

Yup

And they auto delete

[hushed cobalt]

ah! didnt know but ghuun has a plate helm with BoM

[primal crypt]

After some time

I cant get rid of my helmet

Only poopy part

390 dc

:(

[oblique garnet]

Idk if saves it tho

[primal crypt]

Let me check

@oblique garnet you're still streaming

Cant check until it's done

[oblique garnet]

had to check the auto save

for the vod

apparently it wasnt on

[reef sun]

what stat are you guys stacking for m+ i hate the guide saying to get vers 2nd.

[oblique garnet]

haste

[primal crypt]

?

[reef sun]

second* sorry

yeah haste first but after

[primal crypt]

Haste and ilvl

[reef tendon]

follow your heart @reef sun

[primal crypt]

Well, ilvl and haste

[oblique garnet]

i have haste and then bunch of mastery/crit/versa

[reef sun]

i feel like mastery would be so much better if some retard at blizz didnt decide to make some boss auto attack fire dmg

[primal crypt]

Yeah any stat after haste I just wear

[reef tendon]

spell reflect ftw

[primal crypt]

^

[reef sun]

spell reflect is not enough

[reef tendon]

ip?

[primal crypt]

Shield wall

[reef tendon]

demo shout?

[primal crypt]

Demo shout

[reef tendon]

last stand?

[reef sun]

motherlode 3rd boss is a fucking shit show

[reef tendon]

better healer?

[primal crypt]

Ip again

3rd boss...

[reef sun]

even if you spell reflect all the dots

[primal crypt]

Chemical blast chick

Ezpz

[zinc mauve]

yep shes purely magic damage, same deal with final boss of motherlode

[primal crypt]

Hits hard

[zinc mauve]

really annoying

[primal crypt]

But ezpz

Just get externals rolling too

If available

[reef sun]

i use all cd n shit and external its still dumb af

[primal crypt]

Better than kings rest berserkers

[reef sun]

oh thats for sure but still

on 15 + keys tyranical health just spike from full to sub 50% all time an its annoying af

[primal crypt]

Get a mythrax trinket

[zinc mauve]

the only things that will really spike you are spells

[primal crypt]

It's so unfortunate

[zinc mauve]

you have a few tools to delay them but nothing to really stop them asides from your interrupt and spell reflect

[reef tendon]

yeah, but he's specifically mentioning a magic heavy boss

[zinc mauve]

well those bosses are cancer regardless what you do

[reef sun]

im talking bout the last 2 bosses of motherlode

[zinc mauve]

just dont use SB at all and spam ip

[reef sun]

yeah thats what im doing but I still hate it

[zinc mauve]

yeah its a shitty fight for prot warriors

[reef sun]

maybe i dont have enough vers but apparently no one here actualy stack it so i guess im cool

[zinc mauve]

if you can cast it fast enough, you can spell reflect her acid throw or whatever it is

[reef sun]

i was

[primal crypt]

Oh dont forget rallying cry

[lusty grotto]

you can reflect last boss autos too

[primal crypt]

Thats another good one

[reef sun]

you sr when 1-2 sec are left on timer cause she cast that shit fast af

and you get them all

[lusty grotto]

don't forget demo!

[reef sun]

dont worry i use cd on cd on that bitch

[lusty grotto]

high uptime always

[reef sun]

dont have the thunderclap traits yet

cause rng weekly chest

[reef tendon]

rip in peace

[lusty grotto]

singular though

[reef sun]

and none from uldir

[lusty grotto]

you only need 1 DC

[reef sun]

dont have a single one

[lusty grotto]

pvp 😃

[primal crypt]

Pvp!

Guaranteed!

[reef tendon]

when in doubt, demo shout

the go to answer for all your woes

random question. are you able to intercept a group member with SR up and reflect a spell targeted at them? i would assume so but i've never really tried to do that since i assume that at some point i'll get targeted by that spell

but if it does work, maybe it could have some cool uses on bosses like the last boss on AD

like it would be cool to reflect wracking pain for instance

but it doesn't target the tank unless the group is dead

[modern brook]

so kill ur group

[reef tendon]

you right

drag boss into the soul things and kill the group and just solo the boss

why didn't i think of this before

[modern brook]

Its ok thats what class discords are for

GL on ur next atal!

[reef tendon]

😃

i've been playing warrior for about 3 years now, but i only ever tank every now and then. but since our prot pally is going hunter, i am stepping in because prot is fun to me. figured i should see if there are things about it that i didn't really think of before.

lurking hard

[modern brook]

to answer u though I dont think ranged attack's umbrella is large enough to work with things like Wracking Pain

[reef tendon]

hmmmmm

will have to give it a shot on a lower key or something then

and if i run safeguard, they'll be fine anyway right

ez life

[modern brook]

Safeguard doesnt change how Intercept works, just adds 30% damage taken to you

[reef tendon]

right

[modern brook]

ie: they'll take 70% of the pain, you'll take 30%

so yeah they'll be fine

[reef tendon]

i'm saying that if i don't intercept the ability then they will still have a 30% dr on them

[modern brook]

u can also just kick it though lol

[reef tendon]

yeah, but i want to do more deeps to the boss

by making the boss hit itself

[modern brook]

3x Iron Fortres :^)

[reef tendon]

yeah, but seeing how much damage some of these reflects can do just makes me feel good inside

[modern brook]

as far as spell refelct goes, the cutest I'd recomend getting with it is that If multiple spells target you and hit you at the same time, spell reflect will hit all of them

and you can set that up with shockwave

[reef tendon]

i don't do keys nearly as high as sense, but watching him reflect 325k blood bolts on the first boss of UR just feels good in my soul

[modern brook]

its easiest to do wit hthe adds before garok tul

[reef tendon]

i'll have to keep that in mind

[outer dew]

you skip those adds

ya mong

lol

[modern brook]

UHHH

ARE YOU TRYING TO SPELL REFELCT PARSE OR NOT?

[outer dew]

trying to make timer

smh

[modern brook]

fuck timer

playing for timer is playing how blizzard wants you to play

thats for losers.

[supple path]

Has skipping those adds been working for people since patch? Last time I ran into that area they basically just instantly evaded/chain teleported onto us

[outer dew]

they probably will

[modern brook]

Honestly i always kill them because i am a 🐒

[outer dew]

esp if they evad bugging

fast af

[reef tendon]

guys guys, i have to actually learn about skips and whatnot. so far everything has just been being a mongo

[outer dew]

boi

carry light foots 24/7

[modern brook]

sorry

didnt realize being a warrior meant being prepared

[green bison]

hows protection now compared to before patch?

[modern brook]

faster

RE: skips

I def made the mistake of getting higher score on my rogue than my warrior and now im doing higher keys where shroud skips are like necesssary and im like lol this keys dead now because I am retarded

[outer dew]

lol

because it's easier

to get higher io with a rouge

[modern brook]

^^

I did most of it outside of pugs though, in fairness

[outer dew]

8.0 meta was basically

BDK/RDruid/DH/Rogue/Range Fill

[modern brook]

I also just really enjoy rogue in m+ tbh

its like everything warrior isnt

[outer dew]

ya evasion tanking in m+?

:^)

[azure sorrel]

what traits do you recommend for mythoc+?

[modern brook]

I just tricks the DH

:^)

BoMx2 DCx1

for M+ if ur fatty pulling

iLvL over everything 'cept DC

covered in

[outer dew]

sad times

my blastermaster became meh

for my fire mage

zzzz

[modern brook]

I still want a proper Blademaster spec

[outer dew]

that'd probably be for rogue

[modern brook]

MY-O BLADE UH SEEEKZ VENGANCE

[outer dew]

or a hero class

:^)

TASTE OF MA BLADE

[modern brook]

⚔ ➖ 1⃣

[outer dew]

I HEAR AND OBEY

[modern brook]

HUE!

[outer dew]

I AM YOURS

[modern brook]

:^) ur gunna make my blush tofu

[outer dew]

that's lwed

[modern brook]

taste my blade ;^)

[zinc mauve]

get a room

kappa pride

[lusty grotto]

but but warriors are 3 hero classes

warrior aka tauren chieftain blademaster king

thats the official name

Tauren Chiefmountain blademaster king

[supple path]

Tauren Blademountain Masterking

Chieftain is a downgrade from masterking

[lusty grotto]

🤔

true

[oblique garnet]

How to throw key 101

Dont interrupt the worms on underrot

[supple path]

You mean happyfun stand in front of party friends?

[modern brook]

Blademountain Masterking is a dope fucking title.

Side bar: how come trolls in WoW are so much less cool than trolls in WC3

I wanna be the bad mon

not the alien from space jam that took over the CHARLES BARKLEY

[lusty grotto]

you will be the bad mon

when zandalari trolls come out 😃

[modern brook]

implying zandalari are cool

Amani are the cool trolls man

and dark spear

[lavish oracle]

@oblique garnet Or really
Don't interrupt in Underrot

[modern brook]

when they dont look like they'd be bullied for having the crust cut off their sandwich

[lusty grotto]

😮

stream over late?

[oblique garnet]

yeah

I dont think it saved the vod :/

Or it takes a while to process the vod

[sand egret]

anyone fucked around with going to the left trash instead of zombie alley for AD? I haven't gone through the priestess way in a hot second and was wondering if anyone has a route they like that way

[lusty grotto]

it takes a while late

should be up in less than an hour

[oblique garnet]

No blade those adds are worse

[lusty grotto]

don't stream for a few

[oblique garnet]

I wont

I wonder if it had effect that i turned the setting on mid stream will it save it

[primal crypt]

..........

Damn

It

Late

No vod?

I had to turn off my auto vod too

Twitch didnt like the pants coming off

[oblique garnet]

Idk if there is

I turned it on mid stream

[lusty grotto]

there will be

there's a vod of yesterday

[oblique garnet]

?

Really

Did i stream yesterday?

[lusty grotto]

https://www.twitch.tv/latett2/videos

or dec 12

[primal crypt]

Yassssss

I want to see the freest

[oblique garnet]

These are clips tho

[lusty grotto]

ohhh

those are clips yeah

that's weird

[primal crypt]

Yeah

If he didnt turn them on

Gg

Gone

[oblique garnet]

I did turn it on

But it was during stream

[lusty grotto]

go to

twitch.tv/dashboard

hmm

[oblique garnet]

Ye

I did that

[sand egret]

damn Late be bumpin during his runs

[oblique garnet]

Only on fh

[sand egret]

gettin real with that bootyclappin

[lusty grotto]

weird, i get past broadcasts just fine

[oblique garnet]

It takes a while tho

So could be up in 20 mins

[sand egret]

this you running the BoM setup?

[oblique garnet]

Yh

[sand egret]

sick, i swapped one of my pieces with it on to mess around

[primal crypt]

Two

Swap two

Go beast mode

[sand egret]

oh sure let me pull out my spar---BRUH

you think i'm made of gear round here

[primal crypt]

Name yourself booty cheeks

And start clapping

[sand egret]

but even with 1 looking at my mast shoot up...

Avatar is going to be one fucking hell of a button press haha

basically DH meta at this point

[lusty grotto]

i get blue balls cause my team doesn't log on

i would pug tonight but i want to play smash with friends

[oblique garnet]

Im gonna be real salty if it doesnt store the vod

[primal crypt]

Just do it again lel

20k overall

Today ws test run

[oblique garnet]

It probably would have been 20k overall if the group had ccd infesteds so i couldve double pulled more

[primal crypt]

Wait, cant remember

Bursting or str pots

[oblique garnet]

I used bursting

Str food

[primal crypt]

Bursting helps with tclap?

[oblique garnet]

Idk

But it did like 500k damage overall

[primal crypt]

Kk

I'll make a few tonight

And see what it's like

Although...my group is asking for my dk tonight

No idea why

[oblique garnet]

My group never asks for my dk

I wonder why

[primal crypt]

Two of them are so used to mass grips

Hate waiting on los

[oblique garnet]

No need to los anything on fh

[primal crypt]

Casters are the death of me

[oblique garnet]

Theres like 2 caster mobs that need to be range interrupted

Other than that its ez

[primal crypt]

Oh i mean party members

My mage

Loves mass grip

[oblique garnet]

Just make the mage your bitch and out dps him

On your warrior

[lusty grotto]

This is why you have GeForce exp save highlights hehehhee

[outer dew]

but mage

doesn't need stacked mobs

🤔

[lusty grotto]

Depends

Frost or fire?

[outer dew]

frost doesn't need, and fire isn't terribly miserable

[oblique garnet]

I dont have shadowplay anymore

It crashes my game for some reason

[lusty grotto]

Weird

Update GeForce experience maybe

Win10 also has a built in shadow play though

Only time GeForce exp crashed my games was in the early stages of it

[oblique garnet]

Rip

How long does it take to upload 3hr vod smh

[lusty grotto]

lol its free

so

[oblique garnet]

Oh yeah theres the auto copyrighted music detection so it might take extra

[lusty grotto]

just imagine what it would take your pc to encode 3 hour videos

[sand egret]

alternate take: BoM is too beastly for Twitch

[oblique garnet]

Flagged nsfw

[lusty grotto]

are you using OBS to stream late?

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

you use hardware encoding right?

oh really it was flagged nsfw?

[oblique garnet]

Not sure actually

No xD

Just a joke

[lusty grotto]

i noticed your source was 720p too

you could probably stream 1080 np with your upload

[oblique garnet]

I just let the obs run the automatic settings

[lusty grotto]

oh right

[oblique garnet]

Ye i have 1000/100

[lusty grotto]

i have to fucking downsize to 1080 because i run at 1440p :\

[oblique garnet]

But im not partnered so cant stream 1080p

[lusty grotto]

hmm

i thought it was only 1080@60fps

i thought 30 fps 1080 was allowed, ill have to recheck

either way its fine, just curious

[oblique garnet]

If not i just have to do it again smh

[lusty grotto]

lol don't worry it'll be up

[flint tulip]

thoughts on prot changes so far?

especially in m+10 and above

[lusty grotto]

not much changed

we're gods if you're a good player and know how to play as prot

[astral crystal]

Protection warrior is a cool guy, eh tanks and doesn’t afraid of anything

[lusty grotto]

keys go faster because of our dps like pre 8.1 etc

[flint tulip]

ya we blasted through a +11 ml

[lusty grotto]

dps didn't change from before so

[flint tulip]

felt like i took 0 dmg, only thing that did hurt were the 2 energy lashes

[lusty grotto]

yeah that was the case before too

[flint tulip]

tbh i never got accepted as warri tank

[lusty grotto]

people think we got massive buffs, but we really didn't

so at least invites are going out

which is good for puggers

[flint tulip]

i mean the ignore pain just feels better

[lusty grotto]

ignore pain revert was nbd though

[ivory oxide]

I wanna dig mine out and catch up, get to tank next patch.

[lusty grotto]

people seem to think it was though

[tulip pond]

Played my warrior for the first time after the patch, pressing IP and realizing it not being on GCD felt almost euphoric

[lusty grotto]

so thats good for those people looking to show their skills to pugs

[flint tulip]

sadly i dont have a deafening crash trait

[lusty grotto]

yikes

[flint tulip]

i really enjoy the playstyle

[ivory oxide]

Havent played mine since bc and wrath. Loved it back then.

[lusty grotto]

well just remember good effective uptime on SB during blockable attacks and always having Demo Shout up

since IP is new for you

the demo shout thing is a bit new too

since it was more of a cd back then

[ivory oxide]

Yeah, cool thanks, was just reading that a bit ago.

[lusty grotto]

IP is important to spend rage and smooth out dmg

you compliment Shield Block (or bolstered Last stand) and Demo shout with it

[ivory oxide]

As long as we get to charge and shield slam something in the face, it's all good

[lusty grotto]

well, now we bootyclap

[ivory oxide]

That is a bit different for sure

[modern brook]

IP change is big af

[lusty grotto]

avatar -> tclap -> demo shout -> tclap and spam that clap

[modern brook]

😠

[lusty grotto]

it's a QoL change bull

[modern brook]

its not

[lusty grotto]

it leaves you with more gcds to use shit but

[modern brook]

IP off gcd = no more wasted gcd during avatar / DC windows

no more wasted SS/revenge procs

[sick sentinel]

hmm

[modern brook]

its sick as hell

[lusty grotto]

uh huh, it's a slight dps buff, but small really

[open bluff]

also means you get to squeeze in a devastate or two during avatar if rng is a bitch

[modern brook]

NO ITS SICK SHUT UP 😠

[sick sentinel]

you avatar -> clap -> demo?

[lusty grotto]

LOL

yes weep

[sick sentinel]

is that the preferred opener?

I usually intercept -> demo -> sb -> avatar -> clap

[modern brook]

I avatar during my prepot

[outer dew]

aw

[primal crypt]

Cant do 1080p

[modern brook]

->charge->tcla->demp->tclap

[primal crypt]

Not yet

[sick sentinel]

hmm

maybe there's something tclap does that I don't actually know about

[modern brook]

get threat

[sick sentinel]

ah

yeah that makes sense

[ivory oxide]

I think I'll miss the old axe throw to silence casters tho

[sick sentinel]

I just taunt

[modern brook]

if u charge-ava-dc-clap

[lusty grotto]

snap threat yeah

[sick sentinel]

since that's not on gcd

[modern brook]

you're 2(now) gcd's in with 0 threat generation

[lusty grotto]

and also pre-DC nerf it gave you a gcd up on demo shout duration

[sick sentinel]

i understand

so avatar 1.5s before pull -> int -> clap -> demo -> soup shoe clap

[modern brook]

oh yeah forgot about demo uptime

I have no proof ava prepull is better

It just feels better to me

[lusty grotto]

right but that opener doesn't do anything anymore for demo uptime since its capped

[ivory oxide]

I'll have to get that figured out

[sick sentinel]

yea but

it's just for threat right

[open bluff]

i int -> avatar during int

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[primal crypt]

for opener threat

[sick sentinel]

cus demo isn't on threat table

[lusty grotto]

right avalith

demo gives you damage

[oblique garnet]

Less wasted globals which you can spend on clapping

[lusty grotto]

and DR

[sick sentinel]

int?

[lusty grotto]

with booming voice

[open bluff]

if you're far enough out you could still avatar during int when int was on gcd

[lusty grotto]

intercept

[modern brook]

intercept

[primal crypt]

Careful not to clap too early now

[open bluff]

[sick sentinel]

oof

used to charge

[primal crypt]

As you intercept

[sick sentinel]

int = intimidating shout for me ><

sorry

[modern brook]

for the record im refering to M+ pulls

[sick sentinel]

o

[modern brook]

where you're often not 30 yds out

[sick sentinel]

i was referring to single-target raid pulls

[modern brook]

its stillthe same thing

Just probably ava during charge

sounds better

[lusty grotto]

if you were a true furry warrior you would know that intercept was our in-combat charge on berserker stance @sick sentinel

[open bluff]

i mean, int being off gcd makes int -> avatar 100% doable now

[sick sentinel]

on those what I've done is int +taunt -> demo -> avatar -> clap

[outer dew]

I taunt during charge

so the mong dps

[open bluff]

even if you're not 30y out

[sick sentinel]

@lusty grotto I started playing warrior for BFA

[outer dew]

warrior

[sick sentinel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I was warlock in BC

[outer dew]

doesn't insta die because he charged before me

lmao

[lusty grotto]

hold up

hold up

[modern brook]

@open bluff plz stop pointing out that im bad, we all already know this

😠

[ivory oxide]

Haha I remember stance dancing

[open bluff]

hey @modern brook

git gud

[modern brook]

rip me

[lusty grotto]

🚨 🚨 fotm reroller alert for @sick sentinel 🚨 🚨

[sick sentinel]

yes

fury warrior was fotm for uldir

as we all know

[crystal creek]

Ha.

[sick sentinel]

it was objectively the best spec for every fight

[primal crypt]

[sick sentinel]

and no fight was essentially tuned to arms at all :)

[ivory oxide]

Hey better than giving in and going dk right?

[lusty grotto]

are you admitting arms is better?

[open bluff]

not rerolling mid-uldir to prot because X tank was boring af

[sick sentinel]

I was bdk in legion

[lusty grotto]

hold up let me screenshot this

woops wrong one

fat fingered

[ivory oxide]

Lol

[astral crystal]

🤔

[lusty grotto]

that poor guy

left discord so fast

[ivory oxide]

Cuz they have best mog?

[astral crystal]

and the juciest dongs

[junior kernel]

whats a good amount of haste to have prior to ITF

[sick sentinel]

30 billion

[lusty grotto]

doesn't matter @junior kernel

[junior kernel]

really?

[lusty grotto]

like we say ad-nauseaum here: ilvl > all

[astral crystal]

30 gorillion*

oy vey ids anudda shoah

[junior kernel]

say i have a ton of gear around the same ilvl, i should take what has haste and mastery on it though right

[lusty grotto]

sure haste is good

the others are too close to call for stacking

[primal crypt]

Im going to stack all my mastery gear

[lusty grotto]

haste is also close to them but leans towards best for now

[primal crypt]

With the double bon

Bom

And go ham

Just you watch

[sick sentinel]

just sim it 4head?

[lusty grotto]

can't go wrong with ye olde legion ilvl > haste > versa >= mastery > crit for defensiveness

[primal crypt]

Or rather

[modern brook]

Isnt Crit>whatever better for defensiveness

[primal crypt]

Should I stack the crit gear

[modern brook]

i vaguely remember reading that in a spreadsheet

[lusty grotto]

🤔

[primal crypt]

With the double bon

Bom

🤔

[lusty grotto]

🤔

[primal crypt]

So many choices

[modern brook]

the one with k values

[primal crypt]

So little keys

[lusty grotto]

crit is "better" in the sense that it provides parry chance, but since parry is unreliable as fuck it goes dead last

[astral crystal]

yo bloodsport is pretty lit... at 370 it's 4.4k extra IP

3x means 13k more

triple bongsport

[lusty grotto]

triple dongsport?

[oblique garnet]

2x bom also increase the ip by 6k ish

[astral crystal]

80k IP let's go

[junior kernel]

so 2x BoM and 1 DC?

[ivory oxide]

Ok I gotta go read the guides and get my shield bashing butt in gear and get to work! Looks like icy veins is the ticket.

[lusty grotto]

both are managed by marok

icy veins and wowhead

but we usually just say icy veins

[modern brook]

I'm a fan of bullfango's guide

Make mad points -> MONGO MAN MODE -> STOMP

[lusty grotto]

@junior kernel only for m+ and only if you know what you're doing

2x BoM is not that good for raids

[sick sentinel]

Shuuuuuu

Let him believe

[junior kernel]

i dont plan on tanking raids

feels like a huge responsibility

[lusty grotto]

it's not that much different than in M+ in that regard

[sick sentinel]

It is and isn't depending on ur status with the guild and how often u bound with then

I don't make calls and all that whenever I tank

[modern brook]

m+ is a bigger responsibility, Raid is a bigger commitment

one is 30 minutes of not sucking and the other is showing up for 2-4 hours

[lusty grotto]

if you feel like you can't survive with 2x BoM make sure you swap to the other defensive traits. BoM is good for damage, but there are stronger traits for defensiveness

yeah i'm with bull on that one

@junior kernel

[junior kernel]

gracias

still have training wheels on with this character

[oblique garnet]

@lusty grotto is there a way to check if its uploading or nah?

[modern brook]

Ur vods?

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet i check now

[oblique garnet]

Ye

[primal crypt]

Jebaited by twitch

[oblique garnet]

Yup

[primal crypt]

Oh great

Google just messaged me

Heavy traffic, doubled time today

Im so happy right now

Less time at home to throw boms into these dungeons

Wait a minute, @oblique garnet what slots do you have bom in

[oblique garnet]

Helm and chest

Only have dc on shoulders

[primal crypt]

Argh

I don't think there's a bom shoulder i can get

[lusty grotto]

there's no way to check that @oblique garnet it's behind the scenes

[ocean acorn]

is BoM good?

[lusty grotto]

yeah i got like an hour of fucking traffic

[modern brook]

in m+ yes, in raid its about as meh as every other trait

[primal crypt]

@lusty grotto lul

[lusty grotto]

BoM is good in M+ only and only for damage

[modern brook]

Ilvl > trait for everything but DC still

[primal crypt]

Im omw!

[ocean acorn]

thats what we want

i think i have 2x DC and 1 BfI currently

[modern brook]

If you're sacrificing iLvl for one of those dc's cut it

othewise great work

[lusty grotto]

yeah you only need 1 DC

[ocean acorn]

im double checking

[primal crypt]

Argh...it's raining

[modern brook]

Also the neutral trait is probably better than 2nd dc

[ocean acorn]

i know forsure i have c'tharkis shoulder

[oblique garnet]

Smh i read somewhere that if you turned it on mid stream it doesnt save vods😪

[lusty grotto]

nvm it's only 30 mins of traffic

😄

[primal crypt]

:(((((((

[ocean acorn]

where can i check what has what trait on it

i got Pauldrons of the great unifier

[primal crypt]

Icy veins

[ocean acorn]

and im not at home

[primal crypt]

Ay the bottom

Azerite filter

[ocean acorn]

to see what trait it has on raidbots

[oblique garnet]

But it should still show vods after that was enabled so im confused why is it takinng that long to upload

[ocean acorn]

ty @primal crypt

[primal crypt]

MY WIFE NEEDS MILK

FIGHT TRAFFIC AND BUY MILK

[oblique garnet]

Where do you live that the traffic is that bad

[primal crypt]

Outside DC

7 miles = 50 min

It's great

[lusty grotto]

hey its not as bad as california :p

[primal crypt]

My paycheck basically goes to gas and WoW

[lusty grotto]

😄

[primal crypt]

And sometimes milk obviously

[lusty grotto]

don't worry i also remember wanting to kill myself in traffic there

[primal crypt]

🍆

It's ok though

With the milk we get some beer and it's justified since I went out of my way

😂 😂 😂

[ocean reef]

what are the two fights ppl are saying warrior gonna crush in BoD?

[lusty grotto]

All of them

[finite gull]

Hey guys, quick question about shields. If its a significant ilvl upgrade it would be better than a shield with better secondaries cuz of the armor/block value?

[lusty grotto]

I'm joking, @shut summit or @hot locust can probably answer you @ocean reef

Woops tagged the wrong person

Yes @finite gull , for the infinite time never go for secondaries over ilvl, and much less on shields due to those reasons

[plain ice]

i think one was jaina?

[finite gull]

@lusty grotto Cheers, just got a 15 ilvl upgrade shield so i had a feeling it was an upgrade but wanted to double check 😃

[lusty grotto]

We should have a pin that says secondaries are never worth sacrificing ilvl for imo

Back to BoD, if the boss has blockable attacks and/or lots of adds, we will be amazing on them

Same as we were in uldir

[stark sage]

warrior is gonna be pretty pog in bfd

my BDK buddy feeling the nerfs

[lusty grotto]

Lol

[thorn remnant]

What is "pog"?

[lusty grotto]

Saw that first hand yesterday in a heroic uldir pug

Short for poggers

It's twitch language

If I'm not mistaken

[thorn remnant]

So it means good?

I'm an old man who doesn't watch twitch

[lusty grotto]

Yeah

[stark sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/517441382671974411.png?v=1

thats a pog

[ivory oxide]

[lusty grotto]

You can use urban dictionary for those ;)

I need that wadner emoji as a sticker for WhatsApp pronto

[oblique garnet]

Rip theres no vod its gone i guess i have to do it again

[lusty grotto]

i wonder what happened

[oblique garnet]

Probably because the autosave on vods was turned on mid stream

[ivory oxide]

Does intercept also interrupt?

Well, just says roots

[steel mauve]

No

[ivory oxide]

K, thanks

[lusty grotto]

damn late

yeah that'll do it

[primal crypt]

🍆

I made it

My god

[oblique garnet]

@primal crypt stream up and go do the fh

[wide girder]

Seems 8.1 keys are harder than before

Even 10 hurts so much

Idk

[drowsy relic]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=166976/emblazoned-alchemist-stone what is the opinion for this trinket on prot?a few top prot warriors are running it now

[lusty grotto]

do you have a log Jack? we can try to check what you're doing

[wide girder]

No logs sorry

[lusty grotto]

it shouldn't be "harder"

they hurt the same with Fort + Teeming

so its likely that it's something you're doing wrong

[wide girder]

Maybe

Do Dk suffer too?

[oblique garnet]

Its because its fortified

Last week was a joke so it feels harder

Ima start streaming more consistently after next wednesday

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet gotta restore first

just sat down, checking all the things

[oblique garnet]

I could probably cheese out more dps by macroing the on use trinket from darkshore world boss

So getting to 21k overall dps might actually be possible

[primal crypt]

we're aiming low

we gotta try and get 30k

overall

bigger pulls

[oblique garnet]

Probably on next tier

[primal crypt]

with DH darkness

and healer CDs

[oblique garnet]

Next season i mean

Since no need to cc infest adds

[primal crypt]

damn you right

well...if I can get enough CC tonight

I'm pulling like 5-6 packs

and lusting it XD

[oblique garnet]

Oh we didnt even lust any packs on the fh

It was all done without lust on adds

[primal crypt]

y tho

[oblique garnet]

It was a pug man

[primal crypt]

ohhhh

[oblique garnet]

Ye

[primal crypt]

I thought it was still your group

[oblique garnet]

No

The manor went horribly wrong

[primal crypt]

chested at least?

[oblique garnet]

Lmao no

[primal crypt]

oh my

[oblique garnet]

Yup

Thats how bad it went

We missed the rogue who was normally there

And our main dh

[primal crypt]

damn

so one less kick

[tired shadow]

So Intimidating Presence stacks. I pulled a pack of 10 mobs in m+ and got a 350k damage prevented

[primal crypt]

and dps

[tired shadow]

Pretty sick

[oblique garnet]

Demo was fine on aoe

But lacking that one kick is massive on manor

[primal crypt]

yup

very

plus kidney

just in case

[oblique garnet]

Also the fact that last adds are bugged doesnt help

[primal crypt]

blizz is literally dicking around right now

playing with our emotions

[oblique garnet]

@hot locust your stream is lagging for some reason for me😟

[hot locust]

hmm

my thing says 0 dropped frames

[primal crypt]

looks good to me

gotta turn off the downloads from extra curricular sites @oblique garnet

[oblique garnet]

Idk i checked on phone and laptop both had weird lag every 10s or so

[primal crypt]

seems alright to me @hot locustsama

[oblique garnet]

Random stream freezes

[hot locust]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[primal crypt]

uhhhhh

[oblique garnet]

You running the double BoM?

[hot locust]

I dont have any framedrops

[primal crypt]

what happen with addons

[oblique garnet]

Lala?

[primal crypt]

why is everything out of date all of a sudden

[hot locust]

just 1

[oblique garnet]

Ah

The double is actually insane

I dropped 15ilvls on 2 pieces of gear to get it and got big dps increase but its worse for survival standpoint

[primal crypt]

UGHHHHH

I only got 1 bom out of the restore

[oblique garnet]

rip

[primal crypt]

the only way I can do double bom dc is dropping both my 390s

ughhhhhh

[bitter willow]

is BOM better than BOI now?

[primal crypt]

BFI?

@bitter willow we're trying to do a stupid dmg build right now

[oblique garnet]

@lusty grotto ima do it now

[bitter willow]

brace for impact

[primal crypt]

dont mind us

@oblique garnet I can at least use the one bom

[bitter willow]

ok

[primal crypt]

so all is not lost

[strong shoal]

ok so i was a bit sceptical about goin for 2x BoM 1x DC , but after few M 11-13 , i fucking loving it 😍

the dmg output is insane and the two random healers i used for those runs told me that healing me was easy

[stark sage]

2 healing m+

[potent anvil]

you guys ever just pull big in waycrest and do like 100k+ dps? ⛈ 👏

[primal crypt]

@potent anvil we saw the clip from JB stream

[potent anvil]

its fun lol

[primal crypt]

you could do more

if you go 1DC 2xBoM

[potent anvil]

yeah

unfortunately i dont have bom traits

feelsbfaman

[white hollow]

any streamer prot war m+? to stalk him

[hollow thorn]

Is BoM that good

[primal crypt]

for dmg

[potent anvil]

probably for m+, i dont know if its good for raiding

brace for impact is still better, defensively i think. but bom is good for damage, yeah.

[hollow thorn]

got a BoM Gemhide chest which is nice

[lusty grotto]

@white hollow lala is streaming

[daring citrus]

Do any of you know why prot warrior cannot be simmed?

[lusty grotto]

lala_senpai

[hollow thorn]

Ive seen Sense streaming b4

[lusty grotto]

no tank can be simmed

[hollow thorn]

Im pretty sure u can sim bdk

[white hollow]

ok ty

[lusty grotto]

you're "pretty sure"?

[daring citrus]

I can sim both my dk and monk doe?

[lusty grotto]

for dps?

[final mist]

The only tanks you can't sim are Warriors, you can sim the rest for DPS.

[hollow thorn]

By pretty sure i mean ive simmed myself as bdk b4

[lusty grotto]

guess they have working APLs

[final mist]

Simming for survival is 100% a no.

[daring citrus]

i mean for dmg, who cares about surviving?

[lusty grotto]

yikes

[tired shadow]

The new Intimidating Presence trait is pretty sick for m+

[potent anvil]

i think if you just want dps, you go for ilvl on gear right? i dunno, i just put on my highest ilvl pieces and go for it.

[lusty grotto]

if you knew how prot warrior does dps you would have an answer

[daring citrus]

Just asking, no need to get all sassy mister

[lusty grotto]

you haven't seen sassy chef nimchip

anyway that wasn't sass at all, it's a fact

i mean i guess someone could make an APL strictly for Hectic CLeave

closest thing outside of the new M+ sim that raidbots put in

[dark junco]

So, how does prot feels and ranks right now? Did 8.1 make us decent?

[lusty grotto]

a bit better, slightly better resource management, but if you're bad you're still gonna die

hold up

[final mist]

It's not the APL that's the issue.

[lusty grotto]

i forgot viable

[daring citrus]

Ait just got a random nr.1 rank on lfr taloc for shit and giggles. Guess I sort of know what im doing then

[lusty grotto]

yea must be

🤷 lfr

[primal crypt]

lel lfr

[astral crystal]

but LFR is the most relevant metric since it's what most of the population runs

[crystal creek]

Haha

[daring marlin]

🤔

@dark junco If you were a poopoo warrior before you’ll be a shinier turd now.

[ocean acorn]

is there alink for deswind clip on waycrest?

[oblique garnet]

@potent anvil item restoration man in terms of damage up its worth sacrificing ilvl and you should still be fine on higher keys aswell even if you go 2x BoM

Btw @primal crypt even if everything goes horribly wrong you can still do 18k dps overall

[primal crypt]

bah

but I want the 20k

[oblique garnet]

Yeah thats easily doable

[primal crypt]

I'm about to wear 3 x 375 pieces

[oblique garnet]

I just did a pug with the worst healer

[primal crypt]

and just call it a day ;p;

[oblique garnet]

I was 40% the entire dungeon

Still did 18k overall

[primal crypt]

even with the 3 x 375 pieces

[oblique garnet]

Yup

[primal crypt]

I'm at 382

so it's not bad at all lmao

[oblique garnet]

Im at 383 with those

Also

You should get the new world boss trinket

Macro it with avatar

[primal crypt]

done

[oblique garnet]

Yup

[dense pivot]

noice

[primal crypt]

I'm ready

I'm tingling in my but

[oblique garnet]

Defensive trait?

What

Is that

You gonna do the fh?

[potent anvil]

@ocean acorn this is the one pull i did on waycrest if that's what you're looking for: https://clips.twitch.tv/SmellyGeniusSaladAMPEnergy

[ocean acorn]

thanks @potent anvil

[dense pivot]

why do prots value crit these days, I thought it's bad defense-wise, or is it for added damage in m+?

[oblique garnet]

Extra damage + parry

Party is unreliable

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet the other traits were shit

[oblique garnet]

Mmkay