That has to be a bug
#protection
oblique garnet
primal crypt
Thats terrible
chilly brook
Alrighty my friends talk to you all later time to go fly home
outer dew
lusty grotto
this one looks nice
viscid hatch
primal crypt
On my way home bois
lusty grotto
fuck
lusty grotto
i get out in 15 mins, and i have 40 min commute thanks to traffic
thorn mango
can anyone tell me if they nerfed the broken isles invasion elites? cause val'sarah has one atm and the "elite" world quests no longer have an eye function to look for groups
lusty grotto
weeee
primal crypt
I'll be home around 6
chrome falcon
Hey, side note, anyone else had the bug on heartsbane coven where they just randomly fucking die for no reason
oblique garnet
Thanks guys appreciate itπ
outer dew
yes
sand egret
sounds pretety sweet to me
sand egret
sounds like a bug you should SHUT UP ABOUT
lusty grotto
that sounds like a great feature
chrome falcon
halfway through 2nd witch for the 2nd time
chrome falcon
they just fell the fuck over
outer dew
don't talk about it
sand egret
turns out her aura applies to her
lusty grotto
mmhmm
oblique garnet
Big sr
sand egret
massive SR
lusty grotto
viable SR
sand egret
gibbing that blood mirror copy on the first boss of UR is so great
lusty grotto
mirrors don't hurt
lusty grotto
pugs
sand egret
so I try and SR the boss, and i'll get the mirror cast
outer dew
on lower keys
lusty grotto
just passive aggressively mention it before you start UR: "LISTEN FUCKERS YOU BETTER NOT INTERRUPT WHEN I PRESS MY SR MACRO THAT SAYS NO INTERRUPT"
sand egret
and its less time for people to stand in the "OOOOOOOO LOOK AT THE PUDDLES"
sand egret
you know you're in it to win it when you see the first cast just get gobbled and the next 3 go off without a hitch...cuz all your dps blew their interrupt at the same time
outer dew
72 for a +13
sand egret
the cache?
outer dew
yes
sand egret
aye
outer dew
opening my alts
oblique garnet
That has to be a bug
outer dew
first before i get disapointed on my main
sand egret
I think I only did a +12 last week
which was randomly super smooth in that pug group
tuesday pugs are the dream. monday pugs....woof
daring marlin
man
daring marlin
It gave me the sword from freehold
outer dew
you open the chest and reload
daring marlin
I got jebaited
daring marlin
was hoping it was the one from KR
dusk locust
so tell me are old azerite pieces scrapping into the currency
eager hollow
π€
lusty grotto
no
lusty grotto
try it but they wont
outer dew
did ya just test?
lusty grotto
just try it for science
oblique garnet
No
daring marlin
panda gross
oblique garnet
Switch to belf
fallen rose
Has battle shout changed in 8.1?
daring marlin
female NE and sure
astral crystal
Di dwarf
lusty grotto
Leave pandas alone
astral crystal
@fallen rose apparently there was a bug with it that got fixed
primal aurora
Its up
fallen rose
@astral crystal is it attack power or auto-attack damage?
mellow bridge
Is avoidance worth losing better stats? I don't think so but not sure how much those kinda stats are worth
lusty grotto
no
primal crypt
lusty grotto
same ilvl go with haste
mellow bridge
Thought so, thanks
oblique garnet
Nope
mellow bridge
I do only m+ if that matters
lusty grotto
this one does make me think
dense pivot
yeah, crit :puke:
outer dew
86 for +17
oblique garnet
Crit is good
lusty grotto
i'd stick with haste one for sure
dense pivot
why? damage?
primal crypt
Crit is good
outer dew
ayy
oblique garnet
Parry
outer dew
385 rezans this week
lusty grotto
but that's a really close call
outer dew
bless
lusty grotto
holy fuck nice
fallen rose
any NA warriors here?
zinc mauve
Yo
fallen rose
has BS changed in 8.1?
lusty grotto
50/50 to be sure
do you have an internet browser?
go to wowhead.com
look up the patch notes
scroll down to tradeskills
π
next question
next ermine
It's also in the news channel
burnt stirrup
Any thoughts on the strongest azerite trait now?
daring marlin
fuck man
assaults reward asserite but my ilvl on my alt isn't high enough to bump it to 370
next ermine
Traits stayed the same
outer dew
AHAHAH
daring marlin
I like how
the gear cache from proudmoore is 370
but asserite still 355
game's bad
ok neck got me it
good
steady slate
demo shout is now a 15 sec cd? is that right or a bug?
daring marlin
you have WM on
ancient reef
oh yeah i got a BOM piece
steady slate
lol i forgot about that
daring marlin
np dude
sand egret
that free neck ilvl is going to be sweeet on my berrr
ancient reef
any reason to stack this new intim shout thingy
sand egret
reason to? prob not, but not a bad thing to have
daring marlin
boooo
sand egret
@ancient reef I don't think you really want to go out of your way for it, as IV is still insanely strong in that slot. RP is as well. It certainly isn't a bad thing to have one of for the slow alone, not to mention its decent mitigation for basically free.
ancient reef
ok it was jut all of a sudden on all my gear
does the absorb stack, so if i use int shout every 1.5m its like 45k
lol just got servant splitter out of my cache how is that a tanking weapon
lavish oracle
What's the PPM on butcher's block?
Like 1? 1.5?
'cause Knot of the Ancient Fury is looking pretty good to me
ancient reef
you think its worth using servant splitter for my 1h its 20 ilevel upgrade
daring marlin
Sure.
steel mauve
weapon damage converts into bigger IP's
daring marlin
Higher weapon damage=more IP
buoyant inlet
and all became relatively quiet
reef tendon
lavish oracle
That's okay, I found a 395 socketed sporepod one week
cinder plover
is Jes Howler still worth?
daring marlin
yes
lavish oracle
Yes
daring marlin
and I'd take that 395 sporepod with a socket
I'd take the 380 one too
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
lavish oracle
Yeah, I used it for a while, I think it gets a worse rap than it deserves
still woulda rather had like any other trinket 395 and socketed
daring marlin
@scarlet basalt We're absoluely dogshit and will never be viable
scarlet basalt
π
final mist
Let's not meme too hard, shall we?
outer dew
awwdym memeing
daring marlin
I opened my cache and it DC'd me cuz of all the people
thorn mango
has anyone tried to update DBM since servers came online? i just tried twice, and it still says out of date
dense pivot
I received it, thanks π
daring marlin
gl blade
sand egret
ezRezan's395
ancient reef
man i hit ilevel 366 still got 340 shield
limber tulip
Are u guys op now
dense pivot
yes, invite to your +10 now, meta has shifted
lavish oracle
We're now 100x stronger than your average bear
limber tulip
Okay who is na horde
sick sentinel
@limber tulip utility is the same, tankiness goes through the roof
supple path
One day people will realize that prot warriors are totally the best tanks for +10s, and BDKs only start crushing us on the way higher keys.
daring marlin
gr8 b8 censuras
supple path
It's...not bait? Our higher DPS just matters a lot more in lower keystones.
limber tulip
Sick Iβll reroll tonight ty
supple path
Uh, it explicitly does, because you A) have to spend more time kiting, and B) there's more of a focus on ability to live than just ability to do damage?
When anyone can survive easily, the DPS you do as a tank matters more.
daring marlin
kiting
lavish oracle
It's not that higher DPS matters less, its that utility matters more
daring marlin
Sense was talking about doing a 19 freehold and not kiting at all
before buffs
lol
supple path
Okay so you're one of those people who basically likes to shitpost on reddit except in a discord.
final mist
The utility we don't have is the reason warriors aren't brought.
Read: Grips.
That's it.
limber tulip
Hi grips here
final mist
Knock off the memeing.
astral crystal
Meme softer
lavish oracle
meme gently
daring marlin
Seems like that guy is memeing, saying our DPS isn't valuable in higher keys because muh kiting. And on that note, I'm done!
brisk flax
our DPS is pretty valuable imo
steel mauve
An opinion that some one believes to be correct isnt memeing...
daring marlin
Real talk go do the tyrande questline. 385 loot?!
daring marlin
IP works as is with it being a 50% absorb as opposed to 90% and our rage gen being kinda poop compared to legion
shut summit
Haven't had to kite in up to 20 aside from necrotic
So ye our dps is dope even in high keys
brisk flax
ya but who doesnt have to kite in necrotic anyways XD
lusty grotto
cool im home
daring marlin
Welcome home.
lusty grotto
ty guilfart
daring marlin
Ready for the disappointment box?!
brisk flax
@shut summit what about now with the changes? What are your thoughts? Much much better? Or just kind of meh and about the same?
shut summit
It'll be much better for m+ ya, blocking shoot and shit is huge for some of those pulls
daring marlin
I have a seething hatred for the bitch after first boss of KR on fort weeks.
even not on fort weeks
lusty grotto
ok got it retail
daring marlin
shoot
keen galleon
It should make King's Rest and Tol Dagor in particular much easier, yeah?
daring marlin
For sure.
shut summit
Yup
supple path
I do enjoy how you went out of your way to misinterpret what I said to be dumb though.
daring marlin
throw wrench
shut summit
Throw wrench in motherlode, etc
supple path
Saying something is less valuable in some circumstances is not the same thing as saying it's not valuable.
But the value of "prot warrior DPS" relative to "everything else tanks provide" is higher in lower keys.
keen galleon
The problem is that you're not actually right, because a lot of times, the ability to kill the pack quickly is what allows you to pull big
supple path
How does that disagree with anything I said?
keen galleon
you said being able to deal damage as a tank gets less important in higher keys
yes?
fast cairn
Prot π€£ππ€£
supple path
No, I said the thing I just literally restated
It's not that doing damage isn't important, it's that certain other things grow in importance
astral crystal
Based jinzel
buoyant inlet
any of the darkshore traits looking to be worthwhile?
brisk flax
DPS doesnt matter at all in low keys unless you are carrying people LOL
daring marlin
wuh oh
brisk flax
in higher keys DPS is more important i dont understand
keen galleon
higher DPS matters more in higher keystones because in low keystones high dps doesn't influence your ability to time the key.
final mist
Warriors don't have to kite as much. Ergo our DPS is a strong point.
supple path
Yes, if you define "nothing in low keys is important" then shockingly nothing in them is more important
final mist
Not a weak point.
daring marlin
holy shit dude
brisk flax
i never had to kite anyways?
daring marlin
that's awful
keen galleon
high dps is the most important thing in high keys.
all keys ultimately are a HP vs DPS check
daring marlin
bring the damage or fail the timer
steel mauve
I got 60 from a 10 chest
daring marlin
heh
brisk flax
only on necrotic week do i have to ever kite something
daring marlin
yo
keen galleon
nobody is cockblocked on keys because their tanks can't survive on the next highest key
keen galleon
they're cockblocked because they can't kill enough shit to time the key.
brisk flax
and even then not so much since we have 2 AoE stuns lol
daring marlin
rip blood dk
fast cairn
Bring back MOP prot :yejoice:
brisk flax
at least as HMT we have 2 AoE stuns
lusty grotto
hold up what did i miss
supple path
This is not a conversation worth getting into with 9 different people who are all eager to narrow in on a different thing to misinterpret.
daring marlin
ME TOO
I just need to spam dungeons so I can make my alchie trinket
but darkshore thing first
brisk flax
i mean sure other utility is great and all but we have plenty if you play the right Race
lusty grotto
Several people are typing
daring marlin
cuz 385 loot
brisk flax
and spec correctly
final mist
Censuras, I literally posted a picture of what you said and why it was wrong. Warriors (good Warriors) don't have to kite as much, if they do at all.
supple path
No, you narrowed in on one aspect of what I was saying
final mist
Ergo kiting is thrown out the window, because it doesn't exist for us.
fast cairn
Donβt forget good healers!
supple path
and despite the fact that I never indicated anywhere how MUCH kiting I was talking about
you then decided that it was clearly a different amount of kiting than you had in mind, so the overall point must then be invalid
fast cairn
πππΎ
lusty grotto
60 residuum for a 10 key on nimchipadin
final mist
You talked about kiting and said DPS doesn't matter because of it - we don't kite.
supple path
no, that's not what I said
keen galleon
Censuras, I'm genuinely impressed that you're both defending how your claim was non-specific AND refusing to acknowledge that the one thing you DID specifically state was wrong.
lavish oracle
Okay, so before it was hypothetical, but how good is Knot of Ancient Fury compared to Butcher's block
daring marlin
4head
brisk flax
so then when you post something be more specific @supple path . Instead of generalizing and hoping people are thinking about it the same way you are... be more specific
supple path
We don't kite "more" on higher keys than lower keys?
keen galleon
Like, you literally only made one concrete statement, and it was wrong.
wintry gulch
I can say Guilford doesn't kite as a certainty unless there's puddles from them dying. Shrug.
final mist
"Uh, it explicitly does, because you A) have to spend more time kiting, and B) there's more of a focus on ability to live than just ability to do damage?" wasn't what you said?
supple path
I definitely disengage from packs for a few seconds if I'm dropping faster than a healer can keep up, then reengage once topped
And that happens more at higher keys...it's not a huge amount, it's just a factor.
steel mauve
Thats player performance though
brisk flax
ya but that isnt our fault though either Censuras. At least not all the time
supple path
And something that happens more at higher keys than lower, that's just a fact.
steel mauve
Just because you are forced to do some thing doesnt mean the entire spec is...
supple path
Ugh.
lusty grotto
you're kidding right @lavish oracle ?
final mist
I've seen multiple M+ where warriors (ex. Sense) don't kite at all.
brisk flax
that could be a healer issue or you just making a mistake and pulling incorrectly
supple path
You know my whole point here was that we're BETTER than people think at lower keys?
Not worse at higher?
I'm not blaming the spec for shit
I'm saying that the BDK supremacy at high keys doesn't apply to low keys
lavish oracle
@lusty grotto Nope, not sure
brisk flax
meh FotM classes wont last
lavish oracle
385 vs 370, more crit on use
keen galleon
Yeah but everything that isn't a blood DK is better at lower keys than people think. It's an irrelevant statement. You're essentially arguing that every human breathes air because lord xalgoz the mighty gave us lungs when he shat us onto the planet earth, and you're shocked that people are arguing against your point that people don't breathe air. We're not. We're arguing about the dumb reason you think people breathe air.
lavish oracle
instead of a random proc
supple path
And sure, maybe kiting's on my mind more because necrotic was literally two weeks ago - and does happen more. And does require more kiting at higher keys.
lavish oracle
I don't know the PPM for butcher's block, though
keen galleon
Or, you know, the dumb reason you think we're good in lower keys. Whatever.
supple path
On a +10 I can facetank every pack at necrotic without kiting - I can't do that at a much higher key
lusty grotto
but fury doesn't have passive str
lusty grotto
me too yamo me too, welcome home
primal crypt
anything good in box?
fast cairn
wintry gulch
I can completely agree that higher dps tanks are more valuable at lower keys than highly survivable tanks. There's nothing wrong with that statement. But you know, your DK statement doesn't work as a contrast. If anything a highly survivable tank can pull more and make cleave comps do more.
lusty grotto
64 residuum for 11 key
lavish oracle
@lusty grotto What do you mean? It's 313 Strength
supple path
On lower keys your bottleneck on pulling is the group dying to standing in shit and not interrupting, not tank survivability
lusty grotto
i was looking at the wrong one hang on
lavish oracle
It's from the new world boss
wintry gulch
The problem with that mentality is the assumption there's a bottleneck for lower keys but not higher ones...? You're emphasizing the cons of lower keys but higher keys should have the exact same problem but more strict?
daring marlin
Where's the new world boss atm?
primal crypt
I cant log in
lavish oracle
Darkshore
daring marlin
I was doing an incursion
primal crypt
Access violation error
daring marlin
ah gotta unlock it then
primal crypt
Wtf
supple path
I mean, the context I'm primarily speaking towards is "people hate prot warriors for their pugged +10s", so I'm thinking of pugs, not competitive groups that execute perfectly.
pseudo hamlet
Deafening Crash nerf? or am i reading the tooltip wrong.
brisk flax
part of that is Prot Warrior isnt like BDK or Monk in that a retarded person cant just pick the class up and play it correctly
zinc creek
I kite more as brm than prot. My warrior can face tank shit and do more damage I love it
lusty grotto
ok so wowhead is fucked and it has the wrong stats on it @lavish oracle
brisk flax
and lets face it the majority of people who play this game now are kind of stupid
supple path
Oh yeah, I mean, the average prot warrior I've grouped with as arms was a trainwreck.
brisk flax
and are giving prot warriors a bad name
daring marlin
the majority of people that have played this game have always been stupid
not just now lol
lusty grotto
oh woops yeah it has the wrong stats on the tooltip
lavish oracle
@lusty grotto Oh, weird
supple path
the amount I've seen sit there at 100 rage for 30 seconds while getting wrecked is...too damn high.
lusty grotto
but they are correc on the page
that seems like a solid trinket yea
let me check ppm cause i dont remember it for butchers block
brisk flax
that is why we dont get into pugs
because our abilities and rage spending actually matters
supple path
But okay, to restate the premise in a less offensive fashion - the things that make us less desirable than BDKs for really high keys are frequently non-factors in lower keys.
daring marlin
never once had issues pugging anything higher than 10s as a warrior tank lol
lavish oracle
I've only tested butcher's block once or twice, seemed like the PPM was ~1 anyways
brisk flax
and people that dont use rage properly are gonna get destroyed in higher keys
lavish oracle
Mighta just had bad luck, though
brisk flax
monk smooths and mitigates damage out for you pretty idiot proof
lusty grotto
shit yeah i dont know the actual ppm on butcher's block i thought i had an old one but i can't find it so i probably broke it on the expulsom thing
brisk flax
and DK is pretty damn easy in that regard as well
daring marlin
anyone that claims BDK is super duper easy hasn't played it
supple path
their rotation is annoying and makes me mad but it was pretty easy
all the empty globals give you a lot more time for yelling at pugs too
daring marlin
prot isn't hard
supple path
prot is unforgiving more than hard
daring marlin
proactive vs reactive
brisk flax
harder than BDK
wintry gulch
I mean Prot just had a lot of its restrictions lifted with the whole not on gcd thing. That might not even be a true statement anymore.
supple path
The consequences for messing up as prot are worse than as BDK or monk or whatnot
brisk flax
we arent talking about one spec here we are talking about in comparison to others dude
BDK is easier than Prot Warrior to play
sand egret
dis be spicey
brisk flax
and so is BRM
lofty junco
The average prot warrior gets less practice tanking than say a BDK, so on average they're going to be worse, so people are going to have less confidence in them and invite them less, so they'll get less practice. So yeah, your likely to find bad ones. BDK is not too much easier to play well, but it was more survivable, people trusted it, and the average pug BDK just runs more instances than the average pug Warrior so has more practice.
Outside of pugs that goes out the window.
sand egret
π€
supple path
The most 'difficult' part of BDK is probably some nonsense like identifying the perfect time to use death strikes for maximizing healing, and it's just one of those things that no one really notices or cares if you mess up. Whereas a warrior who doesn't hit their keys properly gets hit for 2x as much and dies to a two shot that shows up in their logs as being a failure.
daring marlin
Making sure to have SB up and using LS to fill in gaps=super duper hard gameplay
wintry gulch
Pretty much agre with Zeidrich. I get the same thing with Priest. Holy Priests have a stigma from lack of survivability and everyone's always on Disc's case, even in situations where Holy clearly shines over it (like bursting) you'll still see more Disc representation just because it has great representation and people have faith in it.
daring marlin
and not capping rage by using IP
brisk flax
Fucking up as a prot warrior is way more punishing than any other tank spec as well
daring marlin
woah!
How does one fuck up as a prot warrior?
The very basic thing I just outlined?
supple path
Well let's be fair Guilford, it's more than that too - if you're playing prot warrior PERFECTLY, you've aligned the gaps in your block/LS rotation with monster casts and whatnot
lofty junco
Macro shield block to every ability π
daring marlin
I'm turning into Levko
lofty junco
is how you screw up
daring marlin
waht the fuck
supple path
granted that's the sort of excessive minmaxing no one really notices not happening
daring marlin
@ember arrow I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL NOW
lofty junco
But I wasn't talking about relative strength, just player skill. Bad BDKs get a lot more opportunities to learn than bad prot warriors.
brisk flax
not chaining actives properly. Not using IP when it actually matters. Not spell reflecting when you should. Spending rage incorrectly.
you do these things you die
lusty grotto
hmm tukui updater isn't working
brisk flax
you do those things as a Monk or DK you get a hard pass
lol
because they are more forgiving
supple path
Warriors also have the fun combo of having block and spell reflect as important mitigation tools, but the game doesn't spoonfeed you info about what they work vs.
Not a problem for the learned warrior, but the sort of thing that makes the class 'harder' for someone picking it up
wide girder
who have tried PROT IN m+?
lusty grotto
haven't we had this conversation before?
supple path
most of us
brisk flax
I mean i have a BRM and a Prot Warrior
supple path
Or did you mean specifically since the patch today?
wide girder
8.1 ofc
brisk flax
i can say with 100% certainty that BRM is a joke and a moron can play it
zinc creek
True
wide girder
lusty grotto
i only have prot warrior since vanilla, jk i leveled all tank classes in legion to get mage tower shit
brisk flax
BDK ill get back to you now that i can level one and not have to worry about rep grinding
lofty junco
BRM is pretty boring honestly.
brisk flax
for necklace
supple path
I play a prot warrior and BDK. The BDK feels aggressively easy.
lusty grotto
i have dh π
brisk flax
keywords there bro
wide girder
go away
sick sentinel
im doing my first heroic as prot boys
officially prot main
:)
no fury logs on heroic
daring marlin
we're proud of you @sick sentinel
zinc creek
@primal crypt dx12?
sick sentinel
dude
primal crypt
yeah
lofty junco
Thing I like about BDK is that every ability does something specific. Prot it's like I have shield bash, revenge, thunderclap, devastate, and those are all just tools to kind of build rage for my other abilities. With DK, every button I press apart from like heart strike, has a specific purpose.
daring marlin
welcome to #protection
lofty junco
shield slam...
lofty junco
^
wide girder
just CLAP and high dps
daring marlin
DO IT
wide girder
it gives a lot of fun
primal crypt
Thank Jesus
wide girder
haha
wide girder
reroll to #protection
zinc creek
I wonder if the meme ez clap comes from our thunder clap
daring marlin
no lol
supple path
Honestly yeah, being the tank with an offensive dispel would be great utility. What a shame that it was agreed to be the single most annoying PvP passive of all time so will never come back.
wintry gulch
submit your application this afternoon, you're hired
primal crypt
380 shield is better than 370
wide girder
show logz
wide girder
as a prot?
sick sentinel
yes
wide girder
95 Log
wide girder
daring marlin
yes
wide girder
my prot record
hallow hatch
is there a dps warrior trinket list?
sick sentinel
my prot fetid is uhh
sand egret
@hallow hatch prob in the dps spec channels
sick sentinel
does normal count jack
hallow hatch
worded it wrong
sick sentinel
its still the same boss
sand egret
check the pins
sick sentinel
if normal counts
sand egret
CACHE TIME
wide girder
wow
daring marlin
TELL US WHAT YOU GET BLADE
wide girder
sold
sand egret
haste/mast ring
proven smelt
Do we get an item in our chest this week or just the new currency?
daring marlin
item
sand egret
minor upgrade!
daring marlin
and currency
sand egret
oh 64 residu
sick sentinel
IM NOT WEARING MY DC SHOULDERS
daring marlin
wow weep
sick sentinel
big monakS
wide girder
a okay. I used only dps trinkets
daring marlin
I am disappoint
sick sentinel
π
wide girder
not fathoms as well...
tiny bobcat
what weakaura suite do you guys use? switching from bdk+brm to pure prot this patch
steel mauve
i make my own weakauras
tiny bobcat
oh shit can't believe i forgot to check those, thank you man
lusty grotto
π¨ π¨ fotm reroller alert π¨ π¨
steel mauve
the only 2 i didnt make that i use are the block and ip weakuras in the pins though
lusty grotto
yess my alerts are working
tiny bobcat
hahah not a fotm reroller, just always wanted to play war
sand egret
welcome!
tiny bobcat
thank ya!
simple kiln
Honestly, most WAs I use are to check raid information. Prot doesn't /need/ a ton of WA. An IP tracker and SB tracker perhaps
lusty grotto
i use Khakhan's though
sand egret
i mean, i dont use a single addon outside of details
lusty grotto
because i like it
sand egret
so it's not needed
limber tulip
make it so matrons at the start of underrot see through stealth
lusty grotto
good
simple kiln
Oh you miss out. There are some fantastic WA for raid leading.
sand egret
well a) i don't raid and b) i do it by choice haha
simple kiln
But it is not like MM hunter last xpac where pretty much a Vulnerable tracker was borderline needed
daring marlin
ur cute
lusty grotto
i'm coming for you
sick sentinel
oh
lusty grotto
weep
simple kiln
Can I have log link Guil?
lusty grotto
guilfart
is DX12 running well now with the new Nvidia drivers?
i'm about to try it
shut summit
Actually working well? Nice
sand egret
so far so good for me
shut summit
π
daring marlin
yes
astral crystal
At this time of day
sand egret
but real talk, why Magni gotta make me do this shit twice
daring marlin
AHHHHHH INTERVENE OFF THE GCD
sick sentinel
yes
sick sentinel
@astral crystal
frosty escarp
DC post nerf is still #1 right
small bison
Hello guys!
frosty escarp
dam i need to check pins sry
daring marlin
just not 45+ ilvls good
sick sentinel
what are incursions
frosty escarp
yeah, tempted to try my prot warrior now..... been arms/fury all expac.
would you guys say Prot is on the same tier as BRM?
daring marlin
incursions are the new invasions
small bison
Guys what is your opinion on Bastion of might as in
daring marlin
assaults
lusty grotto
small bison
is it really worth?
daring marlin
an hour to go
when servers came up
I managed to get it done on my lock and got a 370 thankfully lol
lusty grotto
@small bison
daring marlin
Not having to choose between free revenges/SS/IP anymore is too good
daring marlin
hell yeah brother
wide girder
for m+ and raid
daring marlin
hmm
wide girder
and fathoms?
sick sentinel
i don't have a trinket to replace it with ??
lusty grotto
all gear is prot gear
wide girder
fathoms bis for prot
lusty grotto
highest ilvl is prot gear
wide girder
as all know prot is new arms
sick sentinel
i have no other trinket
lusty grotto
i don't know why you would say "wear prot gear"
ionic willow
is this a dumb question friendly discord
wide girder
daring marlin
zul is a dickhead for us
lusty grotto
then if it's not in any of the guides or whatever, you can ask
wide girder
ionic willow
It is not strictly in any of the guides. I have heard warrior is pretty good at off-tanking fetid as they can block thrash, but I am curious as to rotationally how it is done. I do not think you can SB every single thrash, so really how is it done?
sick sentinel
you can sb every thrash
primal crypt
can't even make the engineering goggles π¦
ionic willow
is there some strict haste requirement to get SB low enough to be able to do?
daring marlin
I think with enough haste you could block every thrash now without using LS
don't quote me on that
obviously
lolololoolololll
lusty grotto
no haste requirements @ionic willow
ionic willow
thanks - i'll give it a whirl
atomic gazelle
so ideally, 1 brace, 1 deafening, 1 archive?
daring marlin
wear whatever has highest ilvl
atomic gazelle
assuming all 370s
daring marlin
sounds good to me
atomic gazelle
or do i want 1 deaf 2 brace?
atomic gazelle
yeah i was wondering since str also gives more armor now
sand egret
does the brace piece have IV π
atomic gazelle
hmm i'll check
sand egret
they close enough imho that the other traits can come into play
atomic gazelle
thats good to know
sick sentinel
25% of this healer's healed to is themselves
is this normal
guys
i might be too big brain to beat zul
timid delta
Did battle for darkshore.. quest didnt complete /cry
clear sapphire
hmmm 370 eye of Rezan with socket or 380?
floral tinsel
oh, I thought it was 370+socket rezan vs. any other 380 trink
wide girder
Lol
lusty grotto
that's why i'm asking
dusty prairie
so with Deafening crash nerf, how worth is it to use to you guys?
daring marlin
also the 55k IP was with vial up
floral tinsel
yes, for sure
daring marlin
vial OP
clear sapphire
No. Its the same trinket, why i didnt name another π
lusty grotto
use the 380
sick sentinel
had all my shit up
floral tinsel
then its the 380
lusty grotto
weep l2p
daring marlin
Just keep pumping into the boss until the dot is lower
lusty grotto
lol
sand egret
not a spicey boi
wide girder
Playing as a prot
sick sentinel
my vectis was rank2 π¦
sand egret
didn't help ya live tho
sick sentinel
So has anyone tested out the new changes?
sick sentinel
How's IP feel? Is #blocktherock real or a dream?
sand egret
any specific ones or just it in general
IP feels weird atm
still getting used to it
just different
daring marlin
I'm used to it just cuz I was dicking around with it on PTR some
sick sentinel
Also is the buff to Vanguard noticeable?
sand egret
havent ran into any shoots tho
daring marlin
I have 9320 armor now so there's that
inland mesa
when you get a jes howler from cache at 380....when you got one at 385 yesterday
astral crystal
Call for externals pleb @sick sentinel
sand egret
yes.
daring marlin
yes.
daring marlin
lol
lusty grotto
save avatar for crawgs
daring marlin
prot on zul is all about cheesing
sick sentinel
i did
clear sapphire
I had 10.8 on Zul. My guild wouldnt let me dps
sick sentinel
Don't gotta cheese no more with rogues being the way of the doodoo
uneven mason
I'd test them but something they enabled is tanking my FPS into the floor
daring marlin
who cares
zinc mauve
i had a dream that i got a 395 shield from cache, then i woke up to a 380 weapon... meh... still an upgrade
steel mauve
technically we get more demo's now but less overall time on one charge of it
lusty grotto
lol got trinket on my war and pala
sick sentinel
do the darkshore rares drop gear
zinc mauve
warfronts drop 395 gear?
zinc mauve
what the fuck
sick sentinel
What's the azerite vendor prices like?
zinc mauve
thanks blizzard
sick sentinel
got 99 from a +22
daring marlin
daring marlin
It's pretty bad
sick sentinel
to keep you subbed to this shitty game
daring marlin
idk
steel mauve
not really... its more so to give people that need to farm specific pieces of gear and bitching about it what they wanted
sick sentinel
How much crack dust do u get from a 340
no
it's to make you FEEL like they did something
daring marlin
lol iron
daring marlin
I laughed at people being happy over this
sick sentinel
385 will be worthless
daring marlin
when all blizz did
sick sentinel
because mythic will drop 415
daring marlin
was shit in their mouth
be different if you could actually farm residuum and it dropped from M+ boxes
syke
just the weekly box
sick sentinel
They did say they are going tk watch the cost over the weeks
steel mauve
cant you get new azerite pieces from world quests and raids and scrap them for residuum
daring marlin
yeah but
sick sentinel
From what I remember yes
daring marlin
the amount you get is awful
1 for a 340
3 for 355
12 for a 370
and 35 for a 385
steel mauve
so you can actually farm it though
sick sentinel
Is the math out about how long it can take to farm a specific piece/random
steel mauve
i dont understand the alchemist stone addition they did either
daring marlin
Why not?
steel mauve
added 6 new ones, and you can just make the baseline 385 path, but they added a path that started at 355 and goes to 385
when the new path is better and will go to 415, so its useless to try to go through the other path of trinkets
daring marlin
They're BoP
sick sentinel
then no clue
daring marlin
I think
It's because
the 355 one doesn't require tidalcores
and the 385 one does
355 one requires hydrocores
west kayak
Those start becoming available Season 2 but when does that start?
lusty grotto
when raid comes out
daring marlin
tidalcores can't even drop yet can they?
lusty grotto
mid jan
balmy narwhal
is your elvui kinda fked right now?
sick sentinel
yes
daring marlin
yep
balmy narwhal
my nameplates are not working
zinc mauve
not using threatplates in 2018
sick sentinel
why would i
sick sentinel
using add-on packs in 2018
balmy narwhal
can kick spells that are actually kickable
sick sentinel
@zinc mauve [nobody liked that]
ancient reef
soo many prot wars!
daring marlin
R U NOT?!
sick sentinel
I think I might have to report that toy
sand egret
loll
elder tusk
fun detected
sand egret
the amount of rage im wasting cuz of double tapping by accident is hilarious
daring marlin
how are you double tapping with a 1 second CD?
sand egret
my warfront is ~600 ms
daring marlin
say no more
sick sentinel
Lord jesus
sand egret
it is hilarious
daring marlin
finding a key right now is garbage
every group has a tank
I joined one as fury and someone has been afk for 15 minutes
sand egret
I gotta 400iq my rage 6 seconds from now to see if ill need to IP
daring marlin
I'd make my own group but blizzard is dogshit and didn't send me the contents of my cache
vocal nimbus
daring marlin
muh viability
sick sentinel
@sand egret so the same as prot before 8.1
shut summit
sand egret
I JUST FOUND A PACK OF RANGED MOBS