#protection
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and did they exactly do? little less damage to thunderclap is ok, the extended duration was important for mythic+ at least for me
OP broke? nah
yeah OP
we're easier to play now
Better qoc
my mates who pay more attention than I do say we're number 1 all situations but the changes didn't seem that major to me, just numbers up and more fun to press Ignore Pain
tc damage wasn't nerfed @west turtle
Basically if you were good at prot before 8.1, you'll still be good, a bit stronger from aura buff and better QOL
Your buddies are not correct
if you were bad at prot, you'll be "Less punished"
well I stopped playing it because I wanted to actually be in groups :v
And read reddit most likely
so I guess I was bad
probably
Prob
Lets clear that up, Protection wasn't a bad tanking spec
Protably
The physical damage is going to be laughable
we were actually really strong in everything BUT pushing insanely high keys
Unless you're Sense
Protection was HARD TO PLAY
I think prot is at least tier 2 now, it's way smoother with more mitigation uptime, probably the best for physical damage
Sense doesnt give a shit
(or Boost)
Lmao
mac you're still not over that lol
It was like finding out Captain America is a nazi
tbf it's all about utility
I mean, I'm still a little salty too
hey not a nazi, a hydra
also blocking ranged attacks with shields now is a buff to both prot specs
where's my battle rez where I yell at someone until they get up
I was def salt at sensedk
Take enginerring
Wdym prot isnt good for pushing keys?
Bres item +++
both?
Prot Pally is looking pretty sexy this patch as well
what do you mean both
I saw that shit and it broke my little heart
prot pally got the fucking nerf hammer in pvp LOL
I boosted a prot paladin to play on horde this expac and it put me to actual sleep
@oblique garnet I actually think the gizmo might have a spot
this is why nimchipadin is hpal forever
It's better than shimmering haven I'll say that much
But yeah Focusben - Prot was strong in raids, we lacked suitable utility in M+ to help us compete with the other tanks there, and no one touches BDK for grip and a talent that literally added 20% to their EHP
And the spark has the dmg + 5% dmg reduction
and 90% slow don't forget Mac
that didn't make us squishy, that made bad players squishy
yeah prot doesn't seem to have a lot of big changes other than some reworked azerites
prot pally i mean
prot pally also benefits from blocking change
true
just a small bonus
yeah I was definitely bad
If you play prot well, people notice
@primal crypt thats not fair
people notice you when you play prot well becasue they expect to wipe every pull
They say stuff like, you take less dmg than other tanks I've healed
@modern brook lmao
anyone who wisps you "hey great job not dying as a tank" is a fucking diito
fuck
idiot**
Ahahaha
Read my comment though
They say better than other tanks
Means you mitigated properly
yeah cause we were better than other tanks
I've gotten the meme "OH TOO BAD THE TANK CAN"T SELF HEAL" when the healer dies at 50% on a +10 tyannical boss
so I hit rally and last stand and finish the fight
Now we can block shoot and rocks
u ever die while the healer is >90% to unavoidable damage
It's going to be a field day for us
just solo the boss for us tank xDDD
BLocking ROcks - the real MVP
do we get rage from rocks
No, we block them
^
I had a real cocky mage telling me yesterday to not die during a boss
we get rage from blocked melee attacks right
he died didnt he late
I just told him to try and not lose to me on dps
oof
Oof
Spoilers he did
poor guy
Feelsbad
i mean good job Late, but damn you didnt have to do him like that
do we know if the new raid favours us?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/517901074724552705/unknown.png
The best Tank Utility
I think sense had mentioned that
Paraphrasing: Warrior tank is good, our damage is nothing to ignore
Just losing RA
re: warrior viability for high keys
So passive is gone
which boss late
2nd boss on ml
mmhmm
Who updates that btw
Sense
What a legend
You can still DR it with SR
oh
You hear that @shut summit , you're a fucking legend
25% DR is nothing to scoff at
so this is a generic question but does anyone know for sure if you equip follower equipment, can you get the proc drops from that when completing the missions on your phone
I thought it meant not DRable
with IP off the GCD
Spell Reflect (sometimes)
or is it only a proc if you complete in game
the first two bosses are completely spell refelctable
that sick af
Spell reflect doesnt show up on parses still though 😦
you can literally macro a /cast Demoralizing shout
/cast Ignore pain
/cast Spell Reflect
And name it 🖕 U TANKBUSTER
Demo shout on the GCD 👎
Sense is a scrub its only a matter of an time before i take over him in m+ 8)
holy shit you can reflect Explosive Corruption
plsnomacrolikethat
Warriors never read
I have literally never done that boss as Prot
super helpful for orb running so i don't end up dropping it under the dropoff point
IP IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
eh
Ask marok to pin it
I mean spreadsheet guide
Ye
Ye
It's semi-hidden tbh
Blockable refers to shield block right
Hmmm
and LS + Bolster of course
ie: you can block it via rng or by playing the inferior prot class
Saving sb isn't a good idea, so what's the blockable thing for?
wat
It means what can be blocked
But aren't u supposed to have shield wall up at least >90% when taking direct damage?
Do you save it for blockable attacks?
the troll is real
???
are you serious lol
nah this is a real q
several people are typing
I played bdk and brm
Yeah
You have to understand that saving a button is not in my dna
this is basic prot warrior
like hes asking if you should save, for exmaple, a shield block for skewer vs yzma
Hes remembering back to active motigation days
Where we had to save block
Or get murked
the answer is: effective block uptime is ideal.
yikes
No
you block when getting melee'd or now when you're getting physically ranged
Yeah
For example last boss on ml
that's effective uptime
@soft kindle tell them I'm not a troll and I'm just really stupid please
I mean if you're taking blockable damage is a good time to block
To be honest, using shield block like you are supposed to i always have it up for the blockable stuff regardless
@sick sentinel you try to have as much uptime as possible and use LS ( w/ bolster ofc) and SW to let your block recharge
But he's under the impression. You have to save block for "blockable"
you really don't have to use SW in that situation
The spreadsheet is more information than a guide to using shield block
I see, I see
@sick sentinel if something is marked blockable, it can be blocked, but dont save SB's for it
Yeah, just dont blow all def up front
getting melee'd or getting hit by blockable attacks? Maintain SB or cover with LS + BOlster
Gotcha
that's it
And sit their naked when shit comes in thats blockable
Be nice to weep
Like is this blockable let me check, because like i said using shield block while tanking it pretry much always is up for blockable stuff any ways
don't bully weep pls
No thought process on it
Its only marked blockable because Block, and by exentions shield block, can be used to mititgate it
Is bolster uhhh a talent
Everyone is hype right now
yeah
it is a talent yes
Yea
Okay if
Talent
Ic
Best talent actually
ie: If you have a charge of SB, and yzma is casting skewer
My only experience right now is with pad talents
SB that shit
Second only to ravager
So I didn't bolster
Yikes
MOnkaS ravager
jesus lol
you're a bad person
I mean I'm 383 and not doing progression mythic
is weep like catfriend 2.0?
Gl killing me without putting mechanics directly on me
rip catfriend
used us thena bandoned us
rip @junior ivy
No bully
I didn't say good
386 and still no CE :/
I said big brain
Fury gives you carp
70 apm pog
big prain PFFT
TFW u use more arms to play fury than arms :/
I saw the rotation for Fury and was like "well, Arms it is then "
five button death punch
the rotation for fury is press a button, gj
Fury requires finesse
Thing is, mistakes in arms are also punished less
To maximize
:^)
mate
Prot is much better for dps
^ Prot dps is op
do you know how hard that is
@storm valley as a fury warrior not pressing buttons is very stressful to me
Even use defensive cds on you
sometimes I press taunt by accident because it's bound too close to my Mortal Strike button
imagine playing arms without rng
That's why I like devastate
Ur so dumb focus
fury you just slam your head on the keyboard it works everytime
you can leap out in between swings and charge
Prot is a 0 downtime spec
just be better at tactician
Do you ever find you've just pressed devastate for 7 globals because you literally weren't paying attention
No
Honestly yeah
Playing prot is breaking my hand
I don't get my normal 99s that way
/agree @oblique garnet
That's not true
My wrist is busted
is bolster even a second thought like thats a go to talent i belive
From pushing the last two days
its not dusty
You can get taloc 99 without ever using avatar and using arms traits
@frosty wadi it is
don't get trolled

it's a go to talent for sure i mean
Let me tell u my talents
and even then theres some pretty clear cut winners
it's not a second thought talent
I wish I could have Devastator back
weep gonna make you weep
@sick sentinel bolster is a pad talent because it saves you from casting shieldblocks so you can use the rage for revenge
🙆
ravager for AOE fight DPS
Bolster doesnt increase your shield slam damage tho
Okay so I did take bolster
gotta get those 99s
lol why
fucking lol
I just didn't know it wasn't a passive
after all that
it is passive weep
faster Avatar resets lol
it adds the affect to last stand
Well then
u dont have to press anything additional
I guess I'm still in the right
if last stand is active, youre effectively shield blocking
Ebin
Getting 99s is w/e
Ravager competeing with AM and HR is fucking laughable
i see ravager as a waste when AM is on the same teir
Ravager ks top tier
ravager is just bad-bonestorm
there's nothing for dps in the bolster tier lol
guys you do not understand
Why would you not use it
weep has 2 goals for prot
get full 99s on normal
I am addicted to parsing
and sell keys
10s
So use ravager
I have 20+ kills on heroic taloc because I wanted to r1
Guys, my verizon bill is due
sigh
@sick sentinel gonna sell keys pog
What rank did you end up getting weep
Like 19
I wonder if i have dropped down from top10
I'm rank 2 on normal ghuun and I could have gotten rank 1 but I really didn't want to find a bad pug
Arent those parses all cheesed anyway
I'm referring to on fury, I'm like 116 on normal taloc as prot
wait...theres good pugs?
Normal ranks monkas
No if you want to parse ghuun you find a bad pug
Wattt
They do
yeah they def do
You're making me weep :(
they are part of the encounter
Damage done to ghuun when he has his shield up isn't counted
looking at your Taloc parse
Damage done to cysts isn't counted
no
Yeah I have 2x 385 Archive 1x 360 DC and 2x gutripper
rip
@sick sentinel is this what you wanted?
Prot DPS is a feeling, it can't be simulated
Ya
if prot ends up as good as people think it will be, i'm sure someone finally will
I already have that though
patchwerk APLs will yield shitty results
Prot isnt good
hectic cleave maybe
I have 98 on ghuun hc ruining my perfect row
its not about the results, its about being able to compare things
Cba prepotting on hc
I have to get out of bed and go parse 8.1
projek you do understand ST dmg for prot is terrible right?
Its not
How dare you
The reason for simming is just to see how different stats and traits shfit things around
Yup
i'm dissapointed
it doesn't need to be completely accurate, just kinda close
you would sim for dps
Much more
do you guys do mythic progress?
Man im trying to work out why the fuck my code is not working and having a discussion at the same time
you can sim for dps, DTPS, EDTPS, TMI, HPS
no you cannot
for prot? sims havnt worked since legion
I'm so mythic keystone progress
you can, but it's not helpful to sim for DTSP, TMI and HPS for the general pop
@oblique garnet what's the code
i know we haven't had an APL for prot
Raid is meh
but thats why i'd want them
No golf
those different models do nothing for people, they are circumstantial
Guild
just to compare different setups, not the actual numbers
Currency converter for atm that we are doing as a school project
which is why tank simc parses have been dead for a while
you can see how different arrangements can shift around your damage taken and spike damage for sure
Wat
they aren't accurate for fights, but the trends actually have meaning
dtps isnt a very useful tool, since in a raid setting you dont take damage constantly for 300s
you can see how stats and traits effect them, nto that the numbers are specifically useful
All i need to do is include the ssl libraries and it should work fine im just procastrinating it as long as i can
So it's a web dev project
Not really
you can use all the tools you have available to check for that
k good luck with that
toxicity in every channel lol
i mean he doesn't understand that parses have been dead because those models don't apply to today's WoW
oh its fine, its just funny the backlash you get
yikes
now that's toxicity
sims aren't about being an accurate representation of numbers in game, they are used against each other to find trends
When you pop into pvp and see shit about pawn
Yikes
Yikes
✅
i don't want any kind of pawn string
Yikes
i play prot for fun, i just find simming interesting
and we've been denied that for all of bfa
for prot
...
don't forget legion
Why would you need to sim
i mean so do a lot of people, but it's physically impossible for prot to sim
¯_(ツ)_/¯
don't forget ALL tanks
If you mean every channel, I wasn't toxic to you in arms because I'm toxic, I did it because you're an ass
what is your point
@soft kindle isn't new
meth has been active in #protection for a huge while
Literally never seen him before
Prot is fun btw
lol
If you know how to play it
lol
gets even more fun soon
fun is subjective
Just dont die 4hed
Its a joke nimchip
i know i know
My fun is in trying to beat late
Catch me if you can
But man...those 16s kicked my ass
This was a perfect week to push and instead I played terraria :/
one day i'll have a good team
terraria? wtf it's smash week
At least I got my first +15 in time
Achieved
out of all the games ( i mean smash) you play terraria
i'm a richtor/simon main
I played it with @sick sentinel
Richtorrrrrr my boiiiii
😮
imagine playing warrior because u like sims
Yamorino i didnt do basically any m+ in legion and look at me now 8)

hey
im dumb
here u go
simming is interesting
but I can throw you a random number gen from 10-12k and get you essentially the same result
simming a class with any mitigation for anything but pure patchwerk dps is a big yikes
Weep coming in strong
ftw
ye me and kage just played terraria
Terraria lol
and will continue toplay terraria
@oblique garnet I was pugging for 4k
until we kill moon lord
Never made it
right now though all the realms are down because it's patch day
but I'm so ready to rock these 100 parses
all the way to the bank
it's also work time
Dont be sick
Btw I was pugging m+ while you were asleep weep
Dont lie
:l
Before bfa the only time i did dungeons as much as i have done now is in mop when challenge mode was a thing and even then i played on my warlock🤔
This is a good push week too
I do my +10 on reset day yah, but I wanted to get skme shitty scores out of my page
I'll definitely be selling keys on my prot warrior
Like, I am 1.3k now
for sure
Anything that isn't necrotic is good push week
I could be 1.4k if we didn't play terraria tho
don't u love taking damage you cant mitigate ???
God necrotic as prot
Alliance
belf forever

Honestly i think it might be better push week now than the one before
Im not handicapped
really
Imagine playing alliance
Tyrannical makes bosses last forever
Because my ur is still 100 points and my KR/ToS are 110 only
sands undder table
Still better than fort
50% party
lol thanks Late
50%party
the memebuild is a thing
Nimchip what?
because we didn't have 50% party
We needed 50% party
What have i done
MY works doing a secret santa
Wtf is the 50% party I’m behind in my prot memes
rofl
Lmao
wishlists arent public yet
now i can't make fun of talents in here anymore
wtf am i buying this bitch
50%party is the new new
Save the other 50 for later
@steel lotus memes just

this is the wrong discord
50 for later
This is what happens when prot is left to itself
lol
@sick sentinel 2 people with 50% party each = 100% party
no full blown bonies for us
spin to win
@steel lotus
50% party
guys i have to go to lunch, please keep it down
Thats 75% party, true
We'll be having a 50% party
Attention fellow prots; Ravager is not the way to go, maybe if youre memeing on +10 during necrotic week but no other reason
hahaha
No party in this guy
ravager is bis
Late had to throw a disclaimer
Feels like he’s wrong
jsut like rend
Because our 50%party was too strong
Gonna put a yell macro on rava now
I dont like parties
Not even 50%
You cant
I seriously need to make a yell macro on spell reflect so pug dps doesnt interrupt
Tooltip only gives 50
question, with IP off GCD will that ease with the rotation or will it have no change as IP on gcd screwed me up all the time felt really slow in rotation
@oblique garnet i did
Oh shit
They still interrupt
Idiots
whenever u want
I know
(as long as there are 0.5 seconds passed between the IPs)
Lol
Where did the asshat go
He got us all fired up to 50% and left
servers are up for me in 3 mins
/s spam for up might be hilarious
i'm gonna get full 100 parses
and then we play terraria
while all my 100s become 92s
Servers are up for you? @sick sentinel
3 mins
EU?
Ip*
3 m i n u t e s
How
How
2 minutes
How
because patch day
But 6pm
Est
6 hour down time though
3pm pst
EU Horde Skyhold vs HC uldir is in like 90 mins right?
wait, aren't they up in a few hours according to the blizz message
Maintenance
Wasn't it?
HAHA
patch day is never this late
Your sick day is ruined!
PARTY
Oh shit do i have to join that one kage
Eu has a skyhold too?
ya
hey @lusty grotto are we viable?
Skyheuld
Lmao
it's EPIC AS FUCK BRO
No we're not viable @inland mesa
@ember arrow 6 hrs to go
Jk were gods
Dont know
@ember arrow but i can brez now
I should have timed a 15 Tol'Dagor last night but a damn g'huun fell through the floor and infested a set of mobs that then pulled like 20 more on the way up to us
The sheer amount of memeing in this chat is both disgusting and magical at the same time
So thats cool
nd i wanna commit murder
conselation prize, 385 jez howler 😄
Howler is bad
@inland mesa im sure it will be fixed once bfa comes out
My healer also got aggro through the floor
it's not very elaborate
give us the actual expansion
Did you know you can pull the adds on the cages with thunderclap without a rogue for extra %
But the mob stayed invisible and killed her
#cutforsargeras
Yup
I'm sorry levko for you nerfs
what?
i'm jeff kaplan from the overwatch team
Rip bdk raiding
With the crackling thunder trait if you stand really close to the prison cells you can aggro the adds
@ember arrow oh yeah
2 months ago
Bdk got pooped
yea
@oblique garnet incoming
but i got no stakes in it anymore
Most of them
I dont think you can do that to the boss adds since they spawn after opening
But ill clap them out now
You did make that clear, but just in case you were planning to come back
@lusty grotto i was there when the nerfs were in their babyphase
Maybe
i posted em here
i still like the theorycrafting/duscussion
thing with wow atm
taling about it is more fun than playing it
@oblique garnet wut you mean jez howler is bad 😢
Patch 8.1 continues to improve the Azerite Power system with changes to existing powers and a plethora of new ones added to the available options!
Suuuuuuure
all I have is 385 howler, 375 rezan, and 385 disc D: I poor boi
maybe I'll get a syringe this clear
Howler is awesome for m+
yeah that's what I swapped to
Syringe is a myth
its good aoe burst
I got 3 and gave them away to filthy dps
howler+rezan is what I use as well\
dps arent deserving of your respect
3 of them
question
Players can now summon other players in their group who are present in the same dungeon.```
what does this mean
Where
could warlocks not already do that
Does it say that
8.1 patch notes
across all difficulties, think it was 2 heroic and a mythic before I looked to see it was sexy for us, cuz I was just wearing rezan and blockade to live on prog
Syringe and gore masterrace❤️
Don't have either 😦
@sick sentinel i remeber that was a guild perk if i recall a long while ago
370 syringe with socket + fathoms ❤
Have Group Will Travel
Oh yeah
yea that one
Have group
That shit was busted
death run to bosses rez, summon group lol
Oh
@primal crypt make sure to tell me how the patch is tomorrow, since ima be busy, no time for browsing discord
but
@ember arrow mhmm
you could always do that with summon boxes
ty
Doing high keys tonight possibly
possibly anyplayer can summon ?
But my healer is on mythic ghuun prog
tbh idk
So maybe just low keys
tahts for warlocks
but those are for elitists
@sick sentinel ask warlock discord :C
how could that mean that any player can summon
no
i'm literally never going back to lock discord
bad word
@sick sentinel why tho
XD
bullies
but mostly because my iq is too low for warlock
@gilded tendon sucks
You should try the mage discord
eyir sucks
fuk u @ember arrow
People get murdered in there
@sick sentinel reinvite me
omg paragon reputation i can't wait to never get stuff again
they do
Lol
@sick sentinel you missed out earlier
says fuk U if prot is big gay
fuk u @soft kindle
Im never bringing warlocks to m+
Burst aoe on fort week lol nope
Mage lost to @oblique garnet lateafter telling him to try and not die
Never have i seen warlock beat me on overall dps
methuseluh is a great player
fuk u @sick sentinel
Warlock shouldn't win overall dps
eyir sucks
fuk u @primal crypt
unless it's a God lock
Wow rude
they just dick on bosses
and don't need a healer
eyir knows
Eyir sucks
fuk u @primal crypt
Ahahahahaha
What if you compliment Eyir instead
@ember arrow
eyir rocks
Eyir you're nice
eyir is beautiful
Nope...eyir you suck
I love you Eyir
eyir is the sun in my sky and the stars at the edge of my galaxy
Eyir sucks
fuk u @primal crypt
I was really hoping the bot would still go "Fuk u"
eyir
We're a bunch of mongos
its time to stop
...
Eyir what do you want to eat?
so, is the cap to DC in now? that's our only nerf right, that it can only go up to 6 seconds?
so we just can't start the fight with like 18 seconds of demo
omg I can't wait to log on tonight and smash shit
it sucks that Eyir gets so much abuse 😦
fuk u @stark sage
Ahahahahahahahaha
🙃
Rekt
Eyir sucks
fuk u @chilly brook
Eyir dont take no one's shit
Fuk u Eyir
I really think that it sucks when all Eyir is doing is trying to help but u guys just bully her
fuk u @sick sentinel
No but really fuck bot Clyde even more
fuck clyde
Rekt
Eyir inhales deeply
Keeping me from using emotes
Uhhhh yes
have we figured out which 3 pieces to farm up the currency to buy yet at 415 ilvl?
Valkirye
Oh right
@turbid robin
Those with both BoM and DC for m+
LOL
Valkyrie sorey
who is that
Hymdall sucks

