protection

[lusty grotto]

you know

not as much

[primal crypt]

They turn those off in m+ and raids though...

[oblique garnet]

I dont think it has a chance to fail

But backfiring?

[primal crypt]

And why nerf it lol

Brez is brez

People do skips and stuff already

[sick sentinel]

If it worked in m+

Since it turns off then it won't be nerfed

[primal crypt]

I mean, they turn off those effects

The failure effects

My rockets boots dont fail in m+

[oblique garnet]

Pretty sure the current engineer rez can fail

On m+

[lusty grotto]

it can

[primal crypt]

Yikes

[ancient reef]

so when is the patch

[lusty grotto]

thats how its balanced

[stone crag]

several hours

[primal crypt]

Maintenance is over at 6pm EST

[chrome falcon]

so wait the patch comes up in the evening for NA?

[primal crypt]

if you're NA

[chrome falcon]

is that normal?

[stone crag]

3pm PST

for bigger patches, it's not exactly uncommon

[primal crypt]

This is a long one

[stone crag]

and they usually post a longer time than it actually takes

just so they don't have to extend it and make people mad

[primal crypt]

^

[stone crag]

now it's just a facade

[chrome falcon]

gotta make sure to get those islands working properly

[stone crag]

https://i.imgur.com/uiLFoHe.png 8 hour maintenance

👍

[mild maple]

boo

[primal crypt]

Perfect

It'll be up when I get back from work

:)

[mild maple]

It's gonna be janky regardless, just bring her up Blizz

[primal crypt]

Just you watch

Game breaking bugs inc

[stone crag]

given that at least 1 boss will be bugged

completely unrelated to patch notes

[primal crypt]

Taloc one shotting everyone

For no reason

Can't reclear

Gg

[oblique garnet]

Taloc oneshotting dks :^)

[mild maple]

1 dungeon will be unclearable

For sure

[sick sentinel]

Taloc is outside the raid

[primal crypt]

LOL

[sick sentinel]

And there are mini vectis all over kul tiras

[oblique garnet]

Tfw dk went from god to a meme in 1 patch

[sick sentinel]

Eh

[silk mortar]

they still good

[oblique garnet]

For m+ yes

[hollow thorn]

they will still be good

[primal crypt]

we should go into archerus

[hollow thorn]

they didnt remove grip

[primal crypt]

And ask if viable

[silk mortar]

They have grip which is very important

[sick sentinel]

Going to archerus is like gong to watch the 1% cry about losing $100

[oblique garnet]

Except they are losing more than 100$

[wide girder]

Pst is where time zone

[primal crypt]

West coast @wide girder

[sick sentinel]

Pst is worst coast zone

[wide girder]

Half of sphere far from me

Idc

[primal crypt]

California side

[astral crystal]

Truth @sick sentinel

[final mist]

To be fair, the armor change is completely assbackwards and doesn't touch M+ at all, which is what was being targeted.

I don't even like DKs.

[wide girder]

Mm west coast IPA

[oblique garnet]

Ye the armor nerf went overboard

[final mist]

They were made completely unviable for raids and nothing actually changed for them in M+ because of it.

They're rightfully upset over it.

[astral crystal]

Unviable is a bit of a strong word don’t you think

[primal crypt]

They want dks to only be good for m+

Nice job blizz

[final mist]

Nearly unviable, they almost get one shot from pre-enrage Fetid Thrashes at ~385.

[crystal creek]

Merry Christmas Prots!

[primal crypt]

Really??

Wtf

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[primal crypt]

Yikes

[sick sentinel]

Christ

[primal crypt]

Didnt know it was that bad

[ember crest]

put him on main tank?

[final mist]

Not enough RP to DS from all the melee.

[primal crypt]

Well then lol

Gg

[astral crystal]

That’s really rough damn

[ember crest]

mmm we run a DK and i do thrashes in ours and he doesn't seem to have an issue

[final mist]

DKs at ~390 lost 1.2-1.3k armor.

[wide girder]

What is going on

[ember crest]

that is substantial tho

[primal crypt]

@ember crest not live yet

[ember crest]

oh right

[short temple]

lets all fell a tear for our dk tanking brothers and sister

[stone crag]

it's as of 8.1

[sick sentinel]

Well looks like my guild might take me for their mythic raids lol

[primal crypt]

Lol

You'll handle thrashes better

[oblique garnet]

Mythrax and fetid are the most noticeable for the dk nerfs

[primal crypt]

Wonder if they'll revert

[junior igloo]

@final mist
Where did the armor go? Is it missing in the patch notes?

[wide girder]

What nerfs?

[sick sentinel]

I did several zek attempta with them, I had to tell the tank to stop Taunting off me during combo

[final mist]

@junior igloo the BS armor change on PTR?

Have you not kept up with PTR at all?

[oblique garnet]

Didnt they also lose the bonus armor from veteran of the 3rd war ?

[final mist]

No, that was shifted to another passive.

[junior igloo]

Right, that should transfer to roughly 3 % EHP/DR decrease?
I hear about 18 % nerf everywhere

[eager hollow]

the boneshield was a reverted change

it was buffed to 50% but put back to 40%

no?

[oblique garnet]

Sal where was it shifted to because i couldnt find anything about it

[final mist]

According to DKs I've spoken with (and math and pictures I've seen), it's not an insignificant armor reduction.

It was shifted to another passive, I don't know the name.

[eager hollow]

before they removed the 15%, it was a 2% armor gain

[oblique garnet]

Also the 5% nerf to Will of the necropolis doesnt help

[eager hollow]

then they just removed 15% and took 10% from boneshield

xd

[primal crypt]

The patch notes are incomplete right now

It's missing our DC nerf currently

[eager hollow]

no i saw that on there psure

[ember crest]

yup, are the full release notes only coming after rollover?

[final mist]

Patch notes are always missing shit.

[stone crag]

always

[final mist]

Ex. Feasts and Flasks give tanks primary stats now.

[oblique garnet]

Watching acherus go into full panic mode makes me both happy and sad at the same time

[final mist]

Ranged attacks blockable.

Etc.

[crystal creek]

They fixed the feasts and flasks? nice

[astral crystal]

Skyhold status: IN FLIGHT
Acherus status: CRASH LANDING

[oblique garnet]

Pretty much

[eager hollow]

feelsbad

for them

[mild maple]

you don't have to spec change to eat? this is groundbreaking

[primal crypt]

The flask thing is so nice

I didnt know about that

[tulip pond]

I'm spoiled by Riot's patch notes so Blizzard patch notes are always painful to read

[sick sentinel]

At least when we get nerfed, again, we already have a grip to not crash and burn

[tulip pond]

Esp 7.1 where most of them were like "X ability does now more damage."

[primal crypt]

We already know it's coming lol

[hollow thorn]

ranged block is in notes

[primal crypt]

Blizzard will say omg we messed up

Prot warrior dmg too stronk

[oblique garnet]

Nah nobody plays prot warrior

[ember crest]

stfu

[astral crystal]

Not like he’s wrong

[ember crest]

you heathen

[oblique garnet]

??

[stone crag]

very true

[primal crypt]

Someone is in denial lol

[astral crystal]

All 10 of us are in here

[ember crest]

haha

[primal crypt]

Top streamers already playing warriors right now

[crystal creek]

Skyhold is going to be rocking soon.

[primal crypt]

"Gearing prot warrior"

Stating how strong they will be

Not utility wise, but dmg

We getting nerfed asap

No fun allowed

[oblique garnet]

Still gonna end up playing prot warrior cba playing other tanks

[primal crypt]

Mhmm

[crystal creek]

Yes, going to be a lot of "hi old prot warrior, what traits are best?" And that's ok.

[primal crypt]

🇳 🇴

[oblique garnet]

Gotta get into mdi and replace sense since he was a traitor and played bdk

[primal crypt]

Oops

[stone crag]

is 100% the most used emote in spec channels since it was added

[primal crypt]

And

[ember crest]

best talent ever

[astral crystal]

[primal crypt]

I felt how cheap it was to be a dk this last week

Had a rough time doing underrot

On my warrior

[oblique garnet]

Huh?

What

Hiw

???

[primal crypt]

Dps was insanely low

[ember crest]

need that boot

[primal crypt]

Def did not make the check

But on my dk

[oblique garnet]

On 16?

[primal crypt]

With same group

We phased three times lmao

And I lived

They said...prot warrior is the problem

I no longer play with them

[oblique garnet]

Yeah sure

[ember crest]

lol

[oblique garnet]

Shit dps = tank was the problem

[primal crypt]

Mhm

[ember crest]

dps pulls a solid 8k this god damn prot warrior!

[primal crypt]

"Your dk can live, your prot warrior sucks"

[oblique garnet]

Prot warrior doing 11k

[dire wyvern]

To confirm if others didnt. BDK lost 15% armour passive. Boneshield then gained 10% armour buff. Said 10% buff was then removed. Left with 15% decrease armour coming to live.

[uneven mason]

And all was right with the world

[oblique garnet]

And the bonestorm nerfs and wotn nerf on top of it

[uneven mason]

"Want to be the Utility tank, grats, you take hits like a grandma"

[tired cove]

HEY i have a war and a dk and they are both equal 😦

[uneven mason]

"And not an Mafia Grandma, like a nursing home grandma"

[dire wyvern]

Yes in addition Bonestorm is capped at 15% heal per tick (1 sec) and WotN nerfed to 30% reduction at 30% HP, from 35%/35%

[primal crypt]

The wotn nerf too

[uneven mason]

They're still really strong vs magic damage in comparison to other tanks tho *shrug

and Grip matters

a l o t

[oblique garnet]

Yamorino you need to spellreflect those casts all the time as warrior to push the dps check

[uneven mason]

its just going to hurt them bigtime in raids

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet oh I do lol

I was outdpsing two people

[dire wyvern]

Yes in raid BDK will get a lot worse. In m+, they will just kite more so not much changes

[round vortex]

Who gives a fuck about DK's we've heard enough of their bullshit, they should whine in their discord.

LETS REJOICE PROT WARRIORS!!! (While we are strong for 2 days before anerf lol)

[dire wyvern]

Blizzard once again, dont fix the actual problem

[oblique garnet]

I was watching drjay stream earlier and their dk was talking about how mass grip isnt actually that useful on higher keys🤔

[primal crypt]

🤔

It will be now

With mage nerf

[lusty grotto]

now i feel bad about bdk

[primal crypt]

Cant blizz orb combo kite

Slow doesnt last long enough

[lusty grotto]

i cant believe im saying this, im sorry Levko

[primal crypt]

LOL

[crystal creek]

If Prots a problem yo we'll solve it. Check out the patch while my dj revolves it.

[round vortex]

My point is - we spent enough time in the bin. NOw that we aren't surely this channel won't turn into a BDK bitch fest. Actually it might because all the traitors re-rolled but still hang here 😈

[primal crypt]

Levko doesn't care

Unsub

[uneven mason]

@oblique garnet Anyone who says "Mass grip isn't that useful" is a frigging idiot. Let them go a run without using grip atall, and then tell me that.

[primal crypt]

^

I feel it everytime I play my dk

[uneven mason]

Its literally been the defining factor of "Not BDK" since it was added

[primal crypt]

The interrupt/positioning

My god

It makes things so trivial

[uneven mason]

single target grip is also up there in the "Insane utility"

[primal crypt]

Can't hard cc?

[uneven mason]

Always has been

[primal crypt]

Thats ok

I grip

[round vortex]

Can we please make a #bdk channel?

[primal crypt]

My storm bolt comes up immune

[uneven mason]

Mob's immune to snare? That's ok, I'll just mass grip it back onto something that is, look ma, I obuhgt 5 seconds

[primal crypt]

Lmaoooo

@round vortex stop crying

[round vortex]

hahaha no

[primal crypt]

We're all tank mains

[round vortex]

I'm not crying im shit stirring there is a difference

This place has been BDK central for fucken ages

that's crying

[primal crypt]

[oblique garnet]

He was comparing it to a rop which is arguably better than mass grip

[ember crest]

i refuse to play anything but prot war for tanking just for engagement during play, BDK, brew, all are pretty boring IMO

[primal crypt]

Rop is really good too

But rop + mass grip

Spicy

[ember crest]

OP

[astral crystal]

Imagine playing a video game for anything other than fun as your primary motivation

[lusty grotto]

rop is sexy, you guys stop it with the rop talk

me bro does wonders with it

[crystal creek]

I take it every dungeon but TD.

on my monk

[oblique garnet]

Ring of peace over mass grip any day

[primal crypt]

Ravager*

Fixt it for you

[lusty grotto]

yes

[primal crypt]

You know...

What if ravager was a knockback

[mild maple]

RoP is such a fun spell

[primal crypt]

Like rop

[lusty grotto]

but

how would it do dmg

[mild maple]

Maybe it leaves a big bleed

So targets only need to touch it once

[lusty grotto]

but but utility

[oblique garnet]

Im gonna start running ravager on kr

No joke

[lusty grotto]

hold up

what if

[primal crypt]

For what part @oblique garnet

[lusty grotto]

what if it left a garrote bleed

[oblique garnet]

Everything after the 2nd boss

[lusty grotto]

memebuild for days

[oblique garnet]

Can parry the bleed

[primal crypt]

You lie

[lusty grotto]

he doesnt

[oblique garnet]

No lie

Im an honest man

Finnish people never lue

Lie

[lusty grotto]

are you planning on pulling all zerkers though

[primal crypt]

Kr sucks

[lusty grotto]

cause i dont think youll have it up for every pack

[oblique garnet]

Ye i pull them all at the sametime

[modern brook]

I just caught myself up on all the changes

Prot warrior is just a fucking DPS that doesnt die

How did they let this happen

[primal crypt]

Shhhh

[lusty grotto]

shhhhhhhhh

[modern brook]

fuck

i mean

prot still sucks

[mild maple]

Gladiator is back!

[ember crest]

someone shut this guy up

[modern brook]

😠

[ember crest]

hes going to ruin everything

[lusty grotto]

we are not viable

[modern brook]

IP off gcd does nothing to fix what is at the end of the day a broken spec

😦

[lusty grotto]

☝

[primal crypt]

👌

[mild maple]

Someone pay Preach and Sco to make videos talking about how bad Prot is

[modern brook]

^^^^

please

[oblique garnet]

Oh sco already talks how bad warrior is on his stresm

Stream

[modern brook]

thank god

[oblique garnet]

We gucci on that part

[narrow abyss]

Jdotb q&a Gave mixed impressions on prot too

[uneven mason]

"I can't armwrestle while plaing this spec, must be bad"

[oblique garnet]

Now just need to convince preach

[primal crypt]

He's a monk

Lol

He won't change

[modern brook]

I also saw the monk changes

Arent those a buff?

like yeah u need to be at your keyboard to play the spec now, but that looks like a buff to me

[primal crypt]

Preach tho will blow this shit open

[oblique garnet]

Jdotb said prot would be good for certain dungeons

[uneven mason]

Blizzard's mentality "Lets keep all the idiots in 1 specs so we can watch them better, that is our test bed for WOW MOBILE"

[ember crest]

pls no

[modern brook]

TBH theres so much shit in wow that I would never do at a computer

like fishing or professions

OR archeaology

or anthing that isnt M+ / raid

[primal crypt]

Funny enough

You're the minority

Everyone in here is playing for pet battles

Nothing more

[crystal creek]

I said next 5 man is going to be pet dungeon but bigger.

[modern brook]

I've been trying to get into pet battle tbh

but its like impossible

[lusty grotto]

i remember when sco was a warrior

[oblique garnet]

Professional pokemon esports athlete in wow right here

[lusty grotto]

that was like 30 years ago right

[primal crypt]

It's so hard lol

[lusty grotto]

55 years ago maybe?

[modern brook]

Its honestly harder than Heoric uldir

[primal crypt]

Legit

[lusty grotto]

hey hey hey pokemon is cool

[modern brook]

AotC means shit to me

[lusty grotto]

i play pokemon go every day

[primal crypt]

When your firat two pets are getting pooped on in the first hit

[lusty grotto]

like ths ong

the song*

[primal crypt]

First*

[modern brook]

link me battle master or no invite

[lusty grotto]

(also gen 7)

[primal crypt]

Thats when you never pet battle again

[lusty grotto]

i have this handy site

for pet battles

[oblique garnet]

Sco and warrior LUL

[modern brook]

the problem with pet battles is that its big brain pokemon

[primal crypt]

Although a GM did give me a new pet to battle with

[lusty grotto]

wow-petguide.com @modern brook

[primal crypt]

He gave me a free little xt

Or something

[lusty grotto]

hell no its not big brain pokemon

[modern brook]

I cant just level my typhlosion to 75 and shit all over everyone

[lusty grotto]

i mean

[primal crypt]

Because I tried to trade an otem to someone from raid

Item*

[lusty grotto]

i guess it is because its vs cpu

[primal crypt]

But it wasnt tradeable anymore

[lusty grotto]

cpu battles in pokemon are super easy

but MP is a shitton more complex

[modern brook]

MP?

[primal crypt]

Mp

[lusty grotto]

multi

[modern brook]

oh

[primal crypt]

Multipet?

[uneven mason]

pet battles are just a "do I Have the right set to counter"

[lusty grotto]

player

[modern brook]

Plz dont lecture me about comp pokemon 😠

[lusty grotto]

im just saying

[modern brook]

You're talking to the creator and destroyer of gen 5 little cup meta

[lusty grotto]

im never getting into that

i did shiny mikikyu or whatever the fuck his name is and lost all 3

[primal crypt]

Did we also get legion warbringed back

10/10 would use

Warbringer even

[lusty grotto]

use that site though bull

and install those 2 addons

then just spam A

or whatever key you have bound for TD pet script battles

[uneven mason]

Replace Menace with Warbringer

+++

would use long time

[astral crystal]

he doesn’t play Pokémon go

[lusty grotto]

warbringer man i do miss it

[astral crystal]

Laughing sceptiles.jpg

[primal crypt]

Me too :(

Best interrupt

[lusty grotto]

pre-nerf warbringer i mean

no DR

[sand egret]

this channel got into something special for a hot sec haha

[lusty grotto]

shut up blade, we're not viable

i need to get #2 in arthas

[primal crypt]

[modern brook]

We still dont have a grip

Bad class

[sand egret]

so i kinda imagine a group of us shouting that like the rednecks of South park shout “they took our JORBS!”

[lusty grotto]

yep

[sand egret]

but

[modern brook]

quick aside

[sand egret]

“WERE NOT VIABLE!”

[primal crypt]

Lik I said

[lusty grotto]

haha

[modern brook]

Any prot warriors wanna meme a +11 w/ 4 prot and a healer?

[primal crypt]

We need a gookshot

[modern brook]

since we're not viable

[primal crypt]

Hookshot*

[sand egret]

yikes

[lusty grotto]

we're were going, we don't need healers

[sand egret]

one hell of a misstype hahaha

[uneven mason]

5 prot a +11

[modern brook]

lol

[crystal creek]

Grapple hook

[lusty grotto]

where we're going

i was trolling you nerds

[oblique garnet]

5 prot warriors can probably do +11 without healers

[modern brook]

Probably Mom load or freehold

[uneven mason]

^^^

[oblique garnet]

Not motherlode tho

[uneven mason]

Anyone can "5 something" a freehold +11

don't even need tanks

[modern brook]

^

Thats the point dude

[lusty grotto]

hmm masterminds would be rough

[modern brook]

we're not viable

[oblique garnet]

3rd boss is pain on tyrannical

[primal crypt]

We're not viable

[modern brook]

it should def be done during a Fort week

[primal crypt]

Freehold is ez on tyrannical

Pull the mobs in front of him

Super space

[lusty grotto]

it's Fort + Teeming week boys

[modern brook]

I'm just saying this week is teeming and Fort, which means we can 👢 🍵 👏

[primal crypt]

Oh

[lusty grotto]

2 Avatars per pulls LOL

[primal crypt]

Its sell the keys week

[oblique garnet]

Ill be testing out my limits tomorrow

[modern brook]

last week was sell the keys week dude

was free af

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet i expect 20s

[oblique garnet]

Maybe

[modern brook]

teeming always triggers me tbh

[primal crypt]

I know I know

[modern brook]

I hate tanking it cause i dont know my routes

[oblique garnet]

Unless i get fucked and get a kr

[uneven mason]

I expect to be beating my paladin co tank in self healing tonight

[primal crypt]

I was pushing though

[lusty grotto]

several people are typing

[oblique garnet]

Since no more key deletion

[uneven mason]

KR is ez

[primal crypt]

Didnt have time to sell

[modern brook]

^ same

[lusty grotto]

i hope i get a KR

[oblique garnet]

Not on teeming + fortified mac

[lusty grotto]

goddamn

[uneven mason]

just make sure you can remove enrages

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet key deltion isnt until jan 22

[uneven mason]

BOOMKINBOYS

[primal crypt]

Or whatever season 2 is

[lusty grotto]

NICE

[oblique garnet]

Isnt it added in 8.1

[primal crypt]

Nope

[oblique garnet]

Pretty sure it is

[primal crypt]

Season 2

[uneven mason]

season 2 starts Jan 22

[primal crypt]

It says

[uneven mason]

We get

[oblique garnet]

Link

[modern brook]

its in 8.1 patch notes

[lusty grotto]

yeeeeeeeeee key deletion !!

[uneven mason]

6 weeks of being demigods

until they nerf us in 8.1.5

[lusty grotto]

pls no nerf, we are worse than bears

[oblique garnet]

The enraged mobs is w/e but like

[uneven mason]

totally worse than bears

[oblique garnet]

The berserkers with their bleed man

[modern brook]

^ 8.1 patch notes

[uneven mason]

IP Off the GCD

BLeeds don't scare me

Also, Dark Iron Dwarf

[lusty grotto]

dump all the rage

[uneven mason]

[mild maple]

Since we can't delete Keystones I suppose Blizzard are going to make an effort to tune the dungeons and affixes, right? 🤔

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[oblique garnet]

1 stack of the severing blade does 50k per tick on 15 fortified

[lusty grotto]

good one

[modern brook]

BAstion of might gives u like 70 effective mad points on your avatar

[uneven mason]

Also, BERSERKERS ARE STUNNABLE, whyyou getting hit in the first place?

[modern brook]

its so good wtf

[primal crypt]

Yikes

No delete

[uneven mason]

that being said

[lusty grotto]

f you yamo

[modern brook]

Yeah dont delete your keys

[lusty grotto]

for getting my hopes up

[uneven mason]

the 7 mob pull after the tomb boss

rough shit

[primal crypt]

Yikes

[modern brook]

and by dont i mean LOL u cant

[oblique garnet]

Yeah thats just bad rng

[primal crypt]

We had 4x waycrest in my group last week

[oblique garnet]

glad they removed the 2nd brute from that pack tho

[uneven mason]

Waycrest isn't bad but for the sisters

have your boomkin offheal

[primal crypt]

Im just saying

[modern brook]

I hope ur ready for some carnage to drip through some floor boards man

[oblique garnet]

Sisters are easy

[primal crypt]

We were glad to be able to delete the key

[oblique garnet]

Like actual joke

[uneven mason]

a Boomkin in resto affinity is boss level utility for sisters

[primal crypt]

We didnt want to do waycrest 4 times

[lusty grotto]

i'm hoping for a KR this week

[uneven mason]

😄

[lusty grotto]

i need it

for me rank

[oblique garnet]

Kr on fortified nimchip

Its worse

[primal crypt]

Ravager

[lusty grotto]

i know

[primal crypt]

Problem solved

[lusty grotto]

but i dont run 15s so

[modern brook]

Every pull is a boss fight 😃

[oblique garnet]

Ah

[lusty grotto]

i should be fine

wish i did thought

[oblique garnet]

I still need a temple 15+ so i have all on 15 or higher

[primal crypt]

This week

Temple 15

Ezpz

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[primal crypt]

Funny enough, we one shot galv yesterday

By accident

Didn't have lust, wanted to check the dmg

[oblique garnet]

But galv is all about soaks

[primal crypt]

Got him to 30% with no immunity

Just soak swaps

[oblique garnet]

And the damage was nerfed

[primal crypt]

Must have been a heavy nerf

[oblique garnet]

Its really ez

[primal crypt]

We accidently killed him

[oblique garnet]

Only hard on grievious weeks

[primal crypt]

Had more trouble on first boss

People getting one shot by the aoe

[modern brook]

Grievous is just a hard affix tbh

[primal crypt]

My mage got dunked so hard lol

[modern brook]

its one of the few that you cant do anything about and also is relevent

[uneven mason]

Dark Iron Dwarf says what?

Grevous is a bleed +++

[mild maple]

Dorf Dorf also says hello

[uneven mason]

I think NEcrotic is now as well

[modern brook]

yeah but then you're playing alliance and your progression is a joke in the first place

[primal crypt]

Lol

[mild maple]

Not if you're Australian! Wooh

[uneven mason]

we got 8/8s

so

I mean, irrelevant

[primal crypt]

When alliance is cut off from hall of fame

[modern brook]

👐

[primal crypt]

Lol

[lusty grotto]

i feel bad for alliance (also from being alliance until WoD)

[modern brook]

dont

[oblique garnet]

Id take grievious over necrotic everyday

[modern brook]

its their fault

[primal crypt]

I was alliance as well for a long time

[modern brook]

yall are gross

[primal crypt]

Femnelf warrior

[modern brook]

Dwarves are the only acceptable alliance race

[primal crypt]

Shadowmeld is so good

[modern brook]

everyone else is a big nerd

[oblique garnet]

There is no acceptable alliance races

[lusty grotto]

"fuck grievous" - nimchipadin

i was human

then after WoD, orc-ette

[primal crypt]

Human has best transmog body

[modern brook]

Orcette is op until u have sound on

[lusty grotto]

lol

[dusk locust]

belts are so enormous on humans imo

[primal crypt]

Orcette is def spicy

So spice

[uneven mason]

Much like the music scene, Horde have gone from metal, to mainstream emomuzac

I had to leave

[primal crypt]

Really good body

[modern brook]

Im regular orc cause i wanna be big and green

[primal crypt]

You hunch?

[modern brook]

no because the hunch pride is for neanderthals

[lusty grotto]

hunchers are gross

[modern brook]

I am smort orc.

[oblique garnet]

No hunch on orc?

[primal crypt]

I cant do male orcs

[oblique garnet]

How could you

[primal crypt]

Too much clipping

[lusty grotto]

are you a peon though

[modern brook]

Me not that kinda orc

[primal crypt]

Especially with shields

[uneven mason]

Straight back orcs are so lazy lol

[primal crypt]

They need to fix that shit

[uneven mason]

they literally took the stance from the middle of their stretching animation and made it fixed in place

[lusty grotto]

straight back orcs pls, no hunchbacks on my groups

[uneven mason]

it looks like you have a back brace and a stick in your anus

My orcs will remain 100% Hunched

[primal crypt]

Fembelf is pretty good too

[lusty grotto]

dont knock it until you try it mac

too skinny fembelf

[modern brook]

no

wrong

Fembelf plate looks disgusting

[primal crypt]

I might swap back from. Highmountain

[sand egret]

Did someone say nightborne best race?!

[lusty grotto]

wait, there's no fembelf, its just belf... male belf don't exist

[primal crypt]

But bull rush is so good

[modern brook]

anyone who says otherwise just jerks to their character

[broken roost]

Highmountain tauren with the biggest weapon and shield you can find, no contest

[simple prairie]

Any tips for skittish? Last day in EU and never tanked with skittish affix. Got WM+7 and anxious

[primal crypt]

Yas

@simple prairie use avatar

[broken roost]

I want to be able to not walk through doors without heroic leap

[modern brook]

@simple prairie avatar ->

[narrow abyss]

Just pump

[lusty grotto]

try bootyclapping like the rest of us

[modern brook]

u will forget its skittish week

[primal crypt]

Clap your ass

No skittish

[uneven mason]

Shit

[lusty grotto]

👢 🍵 👏

[primal crypt]

Gg

[uneven mason]

we've devolved into the paladin channel

[lusty grotto]

skittish doesn't exist for prot

[uneven mason]

QUICK NERF US

[oblique garnet]

Oh yeah skittish was this week lul

[simple prairie]

Thanks

[primal crypt]

Clap your ass hard

[sand egret]

yep, if you’re extra nervous, make sure avatar is up for that first tclap, even if you pop it early.

[lusty grotto]

you ass has clap hard

oh no

also don't forget demo shout

[sand egret]

but you should be very fine to deal with the affix, we have damage in spades

[lusty grotto]

for that sweet booming voice dmg buff

[modern brook]

For actual advice, try to avoid yelling 4 gcd's in a row

as long as you're pumping out damage you should have no problem holding aggro

[sand egret]

the hardest part is that tclap brings em down evenly so bursting haha

[broken roost]

With the DC nerf are there any talent changes we should make? Besides

[oblique garnet]

Ni

[lusty grotto]

haha

[oblique garnet]

No

[modern brook]

but if you open with like avatar charge ip demo a: you're dumb and b: youre going to have some dead dps

[sand egret]

yeah, DS > IP is like 2-3 seconds of just shouting haha

[lusty grotto]

memebuild bros

[chrome falcon]

i always try to avatar before pull

[sand egret]

well i guess not anymore!

[simple prairie]

Thanks guys for the tips 😃

[chrome falcon]

avatar charge DS TC then go for there

[modern brook]

u should have avatar for every pull

If you dont, pull larger

[lusty grotto]

@simple prairie avatar -> tclap -> demo shout -> tclap -> whatever -> tclap and keep spamming tclap

[sand egret]

best of luck

[chrome falcon]

⛈ 👏 👢

[modern brook]

😠

[sand egret]

cloud clap boot

[lusty grotto]

thunder clap boot?

[chrome falcon]

the boot is the animation

[sand egret]

thats lightning

thunder is a noose

noose

[lusty grotto]

Matta, this doesn't work for me

[sand egret]

fuuuck

[modern brook]

terrible evolution of the joke tbh

[sand egret]

NOISE

[chrome falcon]

if you can break down the sound of thunder into an emoji get back to me

[lusty grotto]

🤔

[sand egret]

👢 🍵 👏

[lusty grotto]

emoji synesthesia

[sand egret]

cant hear ya

[oblique garnet]

Can you describe the taste of water?

[modern brook]

wet

[sick sentinel]

Flavorless

[sand egret]

too busy just droppin them 👢 🍵 👏

[chrome falcon]

oh i'm sorry i didn't realise we already had an official emoji code for thunderclap

i should have expected

[primal crypt]

[sand egret]

YUP

[primal crypt]

Busted ass emojis

[lusty grotto]

i've always wondered

if Blue emojis play notification sounds for them

[primal crypt]

So wonder what we'll get in our boxes today

[lusty grotto]

or yellow emojis too

[primal crypt]

Looking forward to some good stuff for everyone else

[modern brook]

I hope i get a 395 trinket thats a 3% damage loss tbh

[sick sentinel]

Is Ravager viable now or no changes on talents?

[primal crypt]

I hope I get the same cloak I've been getting

[lusty grotto]

yes ravager is viable, for memebuilds

[modern brook]

STop

[lusty grotto]

viable

[modern brook]

dont even joke

[primal crypt]

viable

[lusty grotto]

viable

[oblique garnet]

It is

[primal crypt]

viable

[oblique garnet]

Viable

[modern brook]

Ravager is the talent equvilent of an underconstruction sign

[lusty grotto]

wow you guys complete each other's sentences

[sick sentinel]

I was just asking, have't tried it yet.

[lusty grotto]

DONT

[primal crypt]

[oblique garnet]

Ravager is even bis for necrotic weeks

[lusty grotto]

we're just messing around

[modern brook]

STOP

[sick sentinel]

Ok thanks, i guess no changes.

[modern brook]

Ravager sucks nuts

[primal crypt]

Ravager is good for parry

[lusty grotto]

Late runs it cause he does 20s

[modern brook]

big nut sucker

[primal crypt]

If you want parry, you ravager

Lol

[lusty grotto]

it's very very very situational

[final mist]

I like memes as much as the next guy, but you guys know the rules, keep it to a minimum when people who aren't in the know are asking questions.

[chrome falcon]

ravager is only good in the situation of you wanting to see the animation, there are literally no other times you take it

i wish it was baseline

[primal crypt]

Baseline

It would be amazing

[lusty grotto]

yeah for sure

it's just a parry buff

[primal crypt]

If they could make it in line with death and dscay

[lusty grotto]

anything else it does is a very distant secondary

[primal crypt]

Decay

[modern brook]

just give prot dbts then

[primal crypt]

I would be very happy

Ravager baseline, copy of dnd...aoe slow

Mmmmm delicious

[modern brook]

still no grip

[lusty grotto]

rip prot

[primal crypt]

One step at a time

[modern brook]

bad spec

10% more armor from vangaurd plz

[primal crypt]

Hookshot comes later

[lusty grotto]

hookshot lol

i wonder if a lasso would be more in line with class fantasy

yeehaw

well i mean hookshot is fine, Link is a warrior clearly

[primal crypt]

Clearly

He spins like

[lusty grotto]

master sword and hylian shield = prot

[primal crypt]

So yeah

[lusty grotto]

oh yeah he does bladestorm

[modern brook]

HMMM he also hasa bow and bomb though

= hunter

[lusty grotto]

damn

[primal crypt]

We had bows

[lusty grotto]

well we used to have bows

[primal crypt]

We just do t use no mo

[modern brook]

hunters used to have swords

[lusty grotto]

bull you're ruining this

[primal crypt]

No one cares about hunters

[modern brook]

listen man

[primal crypt]

🍆

[modern brook]

Im just stating facts

in Twilight he was a druid

[lusty grotto]

fuck you're right

[mild maple]

hunters don't use shields

[modern brook]

link != warrior :/

[lusty grotto]

link is a fotm reroller

[primal crypt]

Yikes

[modern brook]

nim knows whats up

[primal crypt]

Link is the girl

[modern brook]

Iink is currently a dk

[primal crypt]

The princess lady

[modern brook]

who didnt play at all during necrotic week

[lusty grotto]

💔

[obtuse scaffold]

I see people saying BoM is good here... but icy is saying meh. Which is it... wanna hit the ground running on 8,1

[primal crypt]

We were talking about max dmg

[lusty grotto]

BoM is meh for raids

[obtuse scaffold]

ooh okay

[primal crypt]

3 bom 3 dc meme

[oblique garnet]

But 2nd for m+

[lusty grotto]

for M+ though....

[obtuse scaffold]

scrolling aimlessly while at work

gotcha

[lusty grotto]

we're talking high keys though

[modern brook]

I will be taking at least 1 tbh

[obtuse scaffold]

good for high+ meh for raids. got it.

[lusty grotto]

maybe that doesn't apply to you, so go with IV

[modern brook]

its a lot of free mad points

[oblique garnet]

Its alot of damage

[primal crypt]

Tons

I really am going to make the set

[obtuse scaffold]

thanks looks like its time to come out of retirement! lol

[modern brook]

ITs tons of alot of damage

[primal crypt]

Triple bomdc

[oblique garnet]

I just wanna make prot warrior great again

[obtuse scaffold]

same

[primal crypt]

BUT

[obtuse scaffold]

rememeber early legion... OP IP

so good

[primal crypt]

seeing that shit that @hot locust ladid

AV + IV stack

[oblique garnet]

What he did?

[primal crypt]

With the bloodsports

Soloing +14 trash

[oblique garnet]

Oh yeah the heal build

[lusty grotto]

yup

[primal crypt]

One group at a time, but he did it reliably

[obtuse scaffold]

oh sounds fun

i like regen... thinks about second wind

[primal crypt]

Basically

[mild maple]

member leggo bracers

[obtuse scaffold]

yesssss

[primal crypt]

Cleared to boss

But couldn't kill

[lusty grotto]

fotm reroller alert

[primal crypt]

Still healed a lot

[lusty grotto]

🚨 🚨 🚨

[primal crypt]

[obtuse scaffold]

av iv and bloodsport... noting

[primal crypt]

@obtuse scaffold he dropped dc for that build

[lusty grotto]

🚨 🚨 fotm reroller alert 🚨 🚨

[primal crypt]

Just for testing

[obtuse scaffold]

i dont have dc currently lol

bad luck on azerite

i had it on a blue piece or something early bfa

now im 383 with none... :/

[primal crypt]

None what

None dc?

[obtuse scaffold]

dc pieces

yeah lol

[primal crypt]

Oh my

[obtuse scaffold]

trash luck

[lusty grotto]

how are you fuckers 383 without dc

i mean wtf

[obtuse scaffold]

my arms spec is dank

lol

just never got a piece with it

it sucks

[lusty grotto]

ok ok i'll turn off the fotm reroller

[primal crypt]

I have triple dc in my bags

[obtuse scaffold]

😦 lucky

but i can buy it now

[oblique garnet]

You probably have but you have scrapped it over high ilvl gear

[primal crypt]

^

[lusty grotto]

you can buy it in 3 months 😃

haha

[modern brook]

I think a 345 w/ dc is like roughly lower than 385 without

[primal crypt]

340 dc

Mhmm

Can go farm one out

[modern brook]

but its def better than 375

[primal crypt]

Lol

[obtuse scaffold]

rigt on

[lusty grotto]

just do sethralis

[obtuse scaffold]

ok back to work logging off

[lusty grotto]

for those sexy c'thraxxi shoulders

that i have

[primal crypt]

Do we know if I should be making engineering helm later today?

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[primal crypt]

Probably ay?

[oblique garnet]

The 340 version?

Yes

[primal crypt]

385

[oblique garnet]

You need it to do 415

[lusty grotto]

don't you need marks of honor for the new recipes? do you have those?

[primal crypt]

Tons actually

[lusty grotto]

oh then you're set

[primal crypt]

Oh boi

Im excited

[lusty grotto]

but then you lose archive on helm

not that it matters

[primal crypt]

I dont have archive on helm

I have archive on chest

[lusty grotto]

oh

[modern brook]

2x archive was the way dude

[lusty grotto]

thought you were running double archive

[modern brook]

I still say the most important warrior buff is arcane intellect

[lusty grotto]

i remember when that made you skill up weapons faster

AI pls! "wtf you're a warrior"

[modern brook]

10% more smart = 10% better decisions = infinitely less damage taken

its just math man

[lusty grotto]

✅

[primal crypt]

Cureent is dc,bfi,archive

Current*

[lusty grotto]

that's fine

415 is a jump

go for it

[primal crypt]

So engineering helm would fit in that same slot

[modern brook]

before 8.1 the only trait that did anything was dc

[marble cipher]

Anyone got a link to the engi helm by any chance?

[modern brook]

more str was better than most of our traits

[sand egret]

well without it we’d just be counting Demoralizing Incoherent Garble. Significantly less effective.

shouting*

[primal crypt]

@marble cipher it's on ptr wowhead

[lusty grotto]

demoralizing gibberish?

[primal crypt]

I just closed it on my phone lol

[sand egret]

always get that AI buff

[primal crypt]

@marble cipher https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=166986/emblazoned-orthogonal-optics?azerite-powers=1

That's the 385

[marble cipher]

https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=165898/charged-sp1-r1-73d-orthogonal-optics

and that's the 415 then?

[primal crypt]

Yup

[marble cipher]

kk

[chrome falcon]

Btw, the new intimidating shout trait

Is that inner ring?

[sand egret]

y

a

[primal crypt]

Yikes, cant make the 415 yet

Need bwonsamdi

[marble cipher]

@primal crypt and that 385 version is craftable already? Just with "only" three rings then? Or is it only added ingame in the raid patch?

[primal crypt]

After today @marble cipher

After patch

[marble cipher]

Well, yeah, but not with all the rings though?

[primal crypt]

You can craft the 385, but no higher

[marble cipher]

cause the extra azerite rings are not ingame till raid I thought

[primal crypt]

You need the new raid mats

[marble cipher]

talking about the 385, the other one is with new mats indeed

[primal crypt]

Oh, to be honest, I'm not sure what will happen with the rings lol

It might be empty

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[primal crypt]

Like early bfa

[lusty grotto]

have to craft it today

iirc the rings wont be added to existing gear

so you have to obtain a new piece

[oblique garnet]

They wont

[lusty grotto]

meaning whatever azerite you currently have won't have them

but whatever you will get after today will have them

[primal crypt]

Including the new engineering helm I would assume

[lusty grotto]

right

[marble cipher]

@lusty grotto I'm pretty sure the new rings will not even be on gear after patch, just after raid patch

[lusty grotto]

we'll have to see

the fact is that anything saved before today won't have them

that much we know

hopefully new gear will have them, but if it it doesn't that's fine

[oblique garnet]

If new gear has them old ones doesnt

340 azerite pieces might be worth over current 385

[west turtle]

so the engineer helm is good then? I might consider switching to get it

[oblique garnet]

Because you could be getting 6 traits instead of one

[primal crypt]

@west turtle engineering helm is good yes

[oblique garnet]

3*

[primal crypt]

Depending on what you have in that slot

It's a free 390

Depending on your necklace

[west turtle]

ah, they have released the traits?

[mild maple]

I'm jumping on the enginerring bandwagon, does this count as FOTM rerolling?

[primal crypt]

Ehhhh

[west turtle]

I have two 390s, but if it has better traits...

[primal crypt]

@west turtle the traits on it aren't top tier

But it does have a DC

If you dont have one

DC, ablative shielding

Synaptic spark

Which is decent dmg

[west turtle]

fuck I wish that Bloodmallet had Prot statistics

[mild maple]

no sims for prot 😦

[primal crypt]

@oblique garnet what you think of the gizmo

Chance on either or seems to be garbo

[oblique garnet]

No clue on the proc rate but if it procs alot it might be pretty good

[primal crypt]

At least vs the dmg traits on the helmet

[oblique garnet]

Well the damage traits are nice on the helm

[primal crypt]

Yeah, i know the spark does work

[oblique garnet]

But idk if i would actually use the engineer helm lver others

[lusty grotto]

I'll make the swap after the raid comes out

[primal crypt]

My helm is kinda meh

[lusty grotto]

For now I'll stay my profs

[mild maple]

I just capped a Druid to be my herbs/miner so I think I'll swap my Warrior to Engi/Alch now

[storm valley]

ah, Deafening Crash nerf made it in but wasn't in patch notes?

[soft kindle]

Probably

[lusty grotto]

DC nerf doesn't matter

[storm valley]

that's the bit I'm most sad about

thought I could finally replace my 375 chest piece

[west turtle]

I didn't see nerfs to DC though?

[uneven mason]

Its there

[storm valley]

they were on PTR but weren't in final notes

[uneven mason]

Also

[storm valley]

I'm EU so can't test

[uneven mason]

DC nerf for the avg warrior

won't matter a ton

[soft kindle]

FocusBenToday at 10:31 AM
ah, Deafening Crash nerf made it in but wasn't in patch notes?