protection

[junior ivy]

my province of canada

we like our weed.

nova scotia

[supple path]

nope. Like 25 miles south of it.

[lusty grotto]

oh gotcha

[sand egret]

i member one time i college, I went off on this homeless dude who asked me for 5 dollars. Not because he wanted money, but because he wanted to literally roll with the 5 dollar bill. We were actually in front of a convenience store.

[junior ivy]

no other province even comes close

[lusty grotto]

lol blade

[supple path]

If I want to argue with someone about the benefits of pot, I'll talk about all of the fun conditions it treats that otherwise require opiates or benzos. Which, uh, gotta tie this back in to the channel somehow...like pugging on a protection warrior. It treats the symptoms of that very well.

[sand egret]

it was so absurd my head just exploded aha

[junior ivy]

lol censuras

[lusty grotto]

cat, i gotta ask, if you could tell someone that hasn't ever been to Canada where to go.. what would you tell them?

[junior ivy]

forgot we were in protection

and not off topic

nimchip id say montreal or vancouver

[oblique garnet]

Catfriend you really oughta start wow again

[junior ivy]

depends if you prefer night life/culture and stuff or outdoorsy stuff i dunno

[sand egret]

montreal is funnn

[lusty grotto]

do you have any specifics though

[junior ivy]

theyre both beautiful cities

i lived in montreal for 4 years

loved it there

its really fun

[lusty grotto]

@supple path don't worry mate, im a super low key tree

[junior ivy]

vancouvers on the coast, got beaches and mountains and stuff, and nice weather, so its cool too

but i love montreal

[lusty grotto]

is there something unique though

[junior ivy]

well what do you like to do

[lusty grotto]

i'm not saying like it's bad if you don't

[sand egret]

well its customary for everyone to wear only a chef apron on the first Saturday of each month....

just' sayin

[junior ivy]

where i live is nice too 😄

but no one even knows we exist

[lusty grotto]

still canada is one of my top 5 right next to germany on my bucket list

[junior ivy]

well, i guess trailer park boys kind of made nova scotia more well known

[oblique garnet]

Germany?

Really?

[junior ivy]

id love to visit germany too

and austria and france nad italy

and everywhere lol

[lusty grotto]

i'll fit right in @sand egret

yeah germany

[sand egret]

and no, i was lying

[lusty grotto]

i love their beers goddamn

[sand egret]

if that was a place, it'd be blown off the face of the earth

[oblique garnet]

Belgian beer is better than german

[lusty grotto]

🖕 blade

hmmmmmm true

[junior ivy]

at my last job i probably could have travelled to cyprus for work if i stayed

[lusty grotto]

on that belgian beer thing

[junior ivy]

a lot of people in my department got to take trips to cyprus

[lusty grotto]

isn't cyprus.... greek?

[junior ivy]

half greek half turkish

[lusty grotto]

oh!

[junior ivy]

like literally split in half

[oblique garnet]

Its greek island afaik

[sand egret]

depends who you ask 😃

[junior ivy]

greek side and tuyrkish side

turkish*

[oblique garnet]

Its overrated

[junior ivy]

the pics i saw fro mmy coworkers visiting looked beautioful

[lusty grotto]

hmm i dont know there's something about greece that rings "too good to be true" to my ears

[junior ivy]

the beaches looked gorgeous

[sand egret]

sounds about right

we're pretty overrated

look at my tanking

#ontopic

[lusty grotto]

how are we looking past 8.1 boys

[oblique garnet]

Its just a big tourist trap its a shame because its beautiful place but so many tourists ruin it

[junior ivy]

tourists ruin everything

[sand egret]

ya know what else is a trap....

Indomitable!

[junior ivy]

FINE FINE get back on topic

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[oblique garnet]

No joke im gonna start using ravager on high keys

[lusty grotto]

listen though

[sand egret]

been there

done that

that was so last week

[lusty grotto]

if you ever want to go to the caribbean

[sand egret]

this week its Dragon Raor

[junior ivy]

im going to cuba in march i think

[lusty grotto]

i got family in a tiny island

[oblique garnet]

Im just gonna do massive pulls after ive dropped all my cds just use ravager after

Ezpz

[junior ivy]

havent bought tickets yet buyt plan is cuba in march

[lusty grotto]

that birthed Ricky Martin

and Benicio del Toro

[sand egret]

and me

[junior ivy]

omg i was listening to ricky martin last week gfor some reason

[lusty grotto]

liar

[junior ivy]

i just randomly thought hey remember the song livin la vida loca

[lusty grotto]

wait what

hahah

[junior ivy]

and i played it

[oblique garnet]

Please catfriend now the song is stuck in my head

[lusty grotto]

i gotta say, that's a meme song for my buddies

[sand egret]

sounds exactly like how anyone would listen to that song nowadays

[junior ivy]

shes in to superstitions, black cats and voodoo dolls

i forget most of the words

[sand egret]

something about being in the rain

[junior ivy]

uh, her lips are devil red and her skin is the colour of mocha

[sand egret]

and pain

[junior ivy]

she will wear you out, livin la vida loca

[sand egret]

like...

IGNORE PAIN

[junior ivy]

lmao

how did anyone not think ricky martin was gay

[sand egret]

perty sure everyone did

[lusty grotto]

there's a meme that context-wise goes "did you know Ricky Martin was gay" and it's analogous to slowpoke memes

[junior ivy]

true

haha

[hot locust]

👀

[lusty grotto]

but it's like purely PRincan

oh shit

cops are in

[oblique garnet]

Hear me out guys ravager might actually be sleeper op for m+

[lusty grotto]

water!

[junior ivy]

k stop talking about ricky martin

[sand egret]

for the record, I tried!

[lusty grotto]

hol up listen guys how are we @ 8.1

[sand egret]

JUS' SAYIN''

Late no joke I totally did use it last week

[hot locust]

I cant lie, had some good chuckles. Probably should stop now though team. :)

[lusty grotto]

jesus i might just actually use ravager

[sand egret]

I legit had fun with it

[lusty grotto]

just for giggles

[sand egret]

I also did the epic SS build

realllly fun

big ol' critties

[oblique garnet]

Ye but like bladesong if you actually do massive pulls use your defensive cds etc and after they are out and the adds arent dead yet just throw in the ravager🤔

[lusty grotto]

fuck i should start pugging sub 10s

and trying meme builds out

[oblique garnet]

”They hated jesus because he told them the truth”

[lusty grotto]

haha

[sand egret]

oh my dude

i dropped ravager for the sick numbers

and by sick, just...normal sub-optimal numbers

I had a grand ol' time

[oblique garnet]

Yeah but im talking about the normal build but just with ravager

[sand egret]

ya basically what i did

[lusty grotto]

has anyone ever told you that you had the wrong build though Late?

[sand egret]

ravager was basically my last stand

[oblique garnet]

Me? Never

[lusty grotto]

haha now i'm curious

cause i'm thinking if someone says that

i would probably die laughing

just because karma is a bitch haha

[oblique garnet]

Im gonna prove you all wrong and get to 2k rio using ravager

[lusty grotto]

you know

if you do that

we will get a whole more people asking about it here

might be good for slow fridays

lol

[oblique garnet]

”He just did it for the memes”

[sand egret]

im so running Ravager tonight

gotta flex on that necrotic

[oblique garnet]

If you parry you dont get the stacks ?🤔

[sand egret]

yar

got my crit trinkets on

dusted off the hotbar space

never thought it'd make a return so fast, ya boy Randy Ravager is making a comeback

[oblique garnet]

Oh i conviced you?

[sand egret]

I ran it during the Raging week

but I kinda wanna try it again but with Dragon Roar

[oblique garnet]

Aight but only try it out in 10s

Dont want to ruin anyones pushing keys

[sand egret]

yeah i got a +12 key atm

+12 UR

[lusty grotto]

hmm

[sand egret]

not really the dungeon I wanna flex it in, wish it was a FH or AD

[lusty grotto]

right

[sand egret]

I just had an AD

[astral crystal]

ayy just read chat, where my puerto rican bois at

[lusty grotto]

rofl

🖐

i kinda wanna do a seth now just cause of the challenge

but ill wait on my ring of peace bro for that one i guess

[sand egret]

why RoP

when you can RAVAGE

[lusty grotto]

ROFL

[oblique garnet]

Is temple really that bad?

[sand egret]

clearly not getting the point of this hehe

[lusty grotto]

i haven't really done orb room

i mean not in necrotic

[oblique garnet]

Pull everything on one side have a mage slow them ezpz

[lusty grotto]

right.. but necrotic and fort

and sanguine

[oblique garnet]

Only orb guardians leave sanguine

[lusty grotto]

though sanguine is the least of my worries

with RoP haha

g'huun + necrotic are much more so

cause holy shit the placement on those infected mobs

[oblique garnet]

I hate that affix so much

Thank god its gone soon

[daring marlin]

It's fucking BORING.

[lusty grotto]

i wish it was rotated more often

[oblique garnet]

Ye exactly

”Oh theres one infested add that dies if you touch it and it will infest other nearby adds” and suddenly you have a pack which you cant kill because theres so many infested fucks healing eachother

[lusty grotto]

(i know it's not rotated until season's over) ... but still

[sand egret]

I want a season where the affixes reroll every 20%

slot machine that shit

[lusty grotto]

my team at least was pretty on killing those fuckers, or at least stunning them, quickly

but orb room...

[sand egret]

increase the shit out of the rewards

[lusty grotto]

yeah that sounds good

[sand egret]

but make that shit not as on rails

[oblique garnet]

Make an affix that rotates the affixes every 20%🤔

[sand egret]

Madness of N'Zoth

boom

[lusty grotto]

hahah

[oblique garnet]

Imagine randomly getting both grievious and necrotic

[sand egret]

YEP

[placid mango]

when you change 6 piece of gear in a single dungeon while gearing up and suddenly your entire mog is literally the dungeon's set and you're like "whoah look at how generic I look"

[sand egret]

hot-take: not bad

[placid mango]

i may as well be a liberal with this kind of attire

[oblique garnet]

Actually looks good

[placid mango]

the joke was npcs

[lusty grotto]

not chef nimchip good

[placid mango]

shu ada

[sand egret]

boo

[lusty grotto]

rofl

[placid mango]

still need 3 ilvls for lfr tho

[fresh trail]

the last like 10 war sets have been shit

[placid mango]

???

[lusty grotto]

give me 30 mins

and i can dps (or heal) a m_

m0

[placid mango]

hello tier 20 warrior would like to have a serious discussion with you good sir

i'm spamming hcs

[oblique garnet]

Highmountain tauren

[lusty grotto]

I'm playing bfv atm

[placid mango]

went up 12 ilvls in 2 dgs

[oblique garnet]

Every warrior set looks horrible on tauren

[placid mango]

well late that's their own fucking fault for not being druids

[lusty grotto]

i can do whatever atm

[placid mango]

hmt can only be druids or shamans

[oblique garnet]

With 3 exceptions

[placid mango]

taurens can only be druids, shamans and paladins

change my mind

[oblique garnet]

No

[placid mango]

brb dungeon

[oblique garnet]

Hmt warrior masterrace

[placid mango]

hmt warrior isn't even a race

it's a jew on the aryan race philosophy

get good or get out

(don't ban me i'm jew)

[fresh trail]

alright fair t20 is nice

[astral crystal]

that's a solid tmog

except for the helm

[oblique garnet]

Get good

[fresh trail]

reminds me of t6

which is what ive had for like 10 years now it seems lol

firelands was ok too

[supple path]

Yeah, the blood elves are the real master race. Unlike you other guys. Probably not even addicted to magic. A dependence made manifest once the Sunwell was destroyed.

[oblique garnet]

I might change to belf because the racial is too good

[supple path]

Being the prettiest princess is a pretty powerful perk. Or did you mean arcane torrent.

[oblique garnet]

Yes

[sand egret]

Psh

[oblique garnet]

Anyone got a good interrupt WA?

[worthy dagger]

that keep track of the party interrupt?

[oblique garnet]

ye

[worthy dagger]

mythic+ interrupt tracker

let me see if i can find the link

https://wago.io/SkjHi61Bz

[oblique garnet]

oh yeah nnogga had a good one too

Forgot about that 😄

[placid mango]

25 ilvl worth losing DC over?

25 ilvl with revenge trait

[astral crystal]

does a straw have one hole or two holes?

[placid mango]

1

[lusty grotto]

25 yes

25 over i mean, so yes

[placid mango]

a straw most certainly does not have 25 holes

unless you stab it repeatedly

actually

a dtraw has 2 holes

hear me out

actually let me illustrate why a straw has 2 holes

[chilly brook]

A straw has one hole

Two openings

One hole

[lusty grotto]

the hole is continuous

[chilly brook]

^

[astral crystal]

is the aperture a part of the hole or a topological feature that is in itself a hole

🤔

can the hole even be composed of parts?

🤔 🤔

[lusty grotto]

🤔 🤔

[chilly brook]

All holes are

You obviously have an opening

With a mouth

[astral crystal]

a hole is as thing to you then?

also you can seal one end of the straw, does that not suggest there's two holes?

[placid mango]

checkmate

straw has 2 holes

QED

griff, assuming we only had an ass and a mouth, we still would have 2 holes

just saying

[pearl anvil]

according to ptr notes, will prot warrior tanks be more comparable to other class tanks?

took ignore pain off gcd, slight boosts to sta

[supple path]

General consensus is that it's an upgrade, though if you're strictly comparing them we're still likely to lag behind monks in raids and BDKs in m+

But should shave off some of the gap.

[sick sentinel]

you can buff the armor and hp and remove GCD's all you want, but it won't make up for the fact that warrior has somewhat limited utility and magic dmg reduction

[supple path]

Which ends up coming down to the content as much as anything - when you don't NEED to grip anything and aren't getting pelted by spells, suddenly we seem totally fine.

[sick sentinel]

I still fucking love my warrior though,

[topaz ember]

Well still not fine due to uptimes on block in m+ Not as big a deal in raids with swapping

[supple path]

-2s cd on shield block in 8.1 will help with that too

[sick sentinel]

are they changing anything else? I haven't read thefinal 8.1 notes yet

[lusty grotto]

[supple path]

Honestly it feels like the biggest "buff" prot warriors need is for spell reflected damage to show up in the meters so the goddamn community realizes that we're actually doing something.

[lusty grotto]

which is not happening

[supple path]

Seeing Sense's log of notes that shows the 1-3 million damage per instance that he's not getting credited for was very sadface.

[pliant sage]

Pretty sure that still won't change the community perception

The player base is slow and dumb

[supple path]

And nothing reaches dumb and slow people like tanks being #1 on damage meters

[oblique garnet]

Yet another pug convinced on the potential of prot warrior : )

[lusty grotto]

@pliant sage let's not kid ourselves here, it has always been so

maybe not towards prot warrirors but it has been towards whatever class the community feels is "lacking"

for whatever reason

[oblique garnet]

I will change the community perception one pug at a time

[lusty grotto]

with

;D

[oblique garnet]

No

Fuck that

I tried

It made everything off rotation

[lusty grotto]

damn

[oblique garnet]

damn i need to start selling m10 boosts soon again :/

Its expensive doing m+ and raids

[pliant sage]

Oh I'm not claiming that the community hasn't always been dumb and slow. Just that it's affecting Warriors now.

[oblique garnet]

Well yeah just did an atal

[pliant sage]

I tried pugging on my Shaman. It didn't go well

[oblique garnet]

The group was like "Lets see what can come from this prot"

And in the end i got added to bnet and they said good tanking i was surprised

Like cmon

[pliant sage]

I hope to be that cool some day

For now I have to pick Alli or Horde. This swapping back and forth is killing my ability to main anything

[oblique garnet]

just go horde

Pugging at night is the best tho groups cant be too picky for their tanks so i can easily get into +14 groups 😄

[supple path]

People like prot warriors a lot more than they expect to because we're so beaten and downtrodden we don't behave like typical tanks and blame the healer for not keeping us up through 40 stacks of necrotic.

[pliant sage]

Right now the 120 Warrior I have is a HM Tauren, the racials don't really impress me for it. Is there any preferred race for 8.1 and on?

[oblique garnet]

Well belf in general is probably best

Because of the aoe purge

[pliant sage]

Our spec in general needs more to function than other tanks.

[sand egret]

Gahaha

+10 AD with Ravager

was

GLORIOUS

oh man this weekend is gon' be funnn

[supple path]

How were your ravages per second?

[sand egret]

just so huge

[pliant sage]

Have BElves had their animations changed or do the males still hold their weapons like idiots?

[supple path]

no one knows because no one plays a male blood elf

[pliant sage]

Hai Blade

[sand egret]

those 600 damage crit ticks were 👌

[placid mango]

^

[pliant sage]

That icon @placid mango looks ....odd.

[placid mango]

no idea what youre talkin bout my boy

👍

[pliant sage]

Alright.

So back to the question about Blood Elf animations. Do the male and female still stand like chickens with shields and hold 2h weapons in their crotch?

[daring marlin]

Answer: They haven't changed blood elf animations.

[pliant sage]

Thanks. So I won't be playing a blood elf

[daring marlin]

I have the perfect name for you then.

Suboptimal!!!!!!!!!!

[fossil basalt]

Prot long forgetten class hha

[primal crypt]

Hi @fossil basalt

Good to see you

[lusty grotto]

male blood elves are deleted okay?

next question.

[pliant sage]

Honestly out of the two of play a male first. Hell I think I have a level 100 one slmewhere

[valid elk]

@daring marlin Undead is optimal for damage 😛

[sick sentinel]

i play as dark iron myself get to cleanse stuff for free and a small dps buff

[supple path]

Man, guy in my group just got a 395 with speed from a m9. Been a while since I've seen a +30 titanforge

[sick sentinel]

run faster in dungeons

i had a 320 trinket titanforge to 360, but it sucks

[supple path]

World boss drops brace for impact/azerite veins/impassive visage shoulders for me...but that's my deafening crash slot. How sad. One day, healsuit.

[wide sail]

so, next patch, ignore pain is off the GCD, put it still has a hard cap right?

[steel mauve]

the hard cap wont ever go away

[wide sail]

I am struggling to understand how much more beneficial this buff is, just means I don't have to wait to cast it right?

[supple path]

Yeah, which in turn means you aren't delaying rage generation abilities for it.

Since it doesn't always smoothly line up with "only need to press button while ss/rev/tc on cd"

So it'll be a bit of a dps boost and a bit of a rage gen boost too.

[wide sail]

I guess I can see that, but doesn't seem like it is huge. I feel the 2 second drop in shield block is better

[steel mauve]

its a slight buff in terms of performance, but the feeling of our rotaiton will be much better

itll allow for more devestates which in turn allow for more SS's with procs

[supple path]

Yeah, I haven't done the math, but I'd be expecting like...2-5% range boosts there.

[steel mauve]

blocking ranged attacks and the 2 second shorter cd on shield block are gonna be really good though

[daring marlin]

no

shhhhhhh

stop it

[dull coral]

Hey, not-warrior here, what do people do for the zek'voz combo if you're taking all 3 hits? Or would you advise not taking all 3 hits (asking for a friend)

[oblique garnet]

Demo shout last stand and sr

Spellreflect the 2nd voidlash

you hardly drop below 70%

[orchid sand]

Leveled a alt from 52 -59 tanking only LFD groups overlast few days.

I had spme good times

man

[vocal imp]

do any of yall use a macro for avatar/ dem shout?

[orchid sand]

no

i used to always macro a hp pot to SW but not lately

just some Mo pummel,Intercept,Heroic Throw,Taunt macros

[vocal imp]

i've seen some prot war using a macro but can't seem to find it

as opener on aoe pulls

[orchid sand]

prob for burst

duaels or something

i use a MO heroic throw on pulls

might use ataunt lil after if mob peels off

heroic throw is whole lot of threat

If Im pulling alot of mobs and know a dps is lollygagging or a healer is oom ill pop avatar demoralizing shot eveen sb

before pull

Having some weak auras placed at each side of your toon like shield block,IP and last stand will do more more for a prot wrrior then any macro

And when you have your targets cast bar 3-4 inches above your head,stretched to 2/3 way across screenit really helps with shield block usage/timing

a atr castbar made w/weakauras that turns green on only interruptale cast is another way to optimize play

I would be happy to have warbringer talent back and the stun from intervene/intercept back morew then any other

ive learned to live with it,...i think

[lusty grotto]

second wind im back

[orchid sand]

oh and mannaroths

lol

[lusty grotto]

shit i had like 17 beers

[orchid sand]

lol

[lusty grotto]

(it was friday NA)

[orchid sand]

likewise

[oblique garnet]

uff +15 shrine :<

[lusty grotto]

hol up late

making heals on EU

[orchid sand]

i had so much fucking fun tanking on my 54 warrior then i had all of this xpac

[lusty grotto]

wait up, only 3 days for me to get to 120

[oblique garnet]

XDD

Im actually pushing keys with pugs

What is this

[lusty grotto]

jesus christ

[oblique garnet]

We legit have no comms and still 2 chesting

[orchid sand]

i eneded up with same group running 11 staright

[lusty grotto]

instant bnet add

for both of you

[orchid sand]

iearthat brah

[oblique garnet]

Nimchip is drunk confirmed

[lusty grotto]

when i said second wind i meant it lol

[orchid sand]

peeps been hitting me up all xpac wznting to know my FEELINGS

[oblique garnet]

oh shit its 8 am

[orchid sand]

about the state of prot warriors

[lusty grotto]

shit i cant find the vomit emoji

[orchid sand]

i tell em No prob

[lusty grotto]

you can link them the griff vid

[oblique garnet]

Its bad and you should feel bad for playing prot

[lusty grotto]

or boost's parses

[orchid sand]

been puttinup with it for long time

Im over it

caught my selfchastising other prot warriors in game for running around with talent builds from hell.

fucking more to try to help em

parses

[lusty grotto]

yeah i do that

ask around

i post their names here too

[orchid sand]

and devastator were mentioned in a chat with a guildie

i think hes hell of rouge

but a stubborn baby prot warrior now

when i wanna feel like an elitist i just play my lvl 45-65 warriors

lol

its appreciated when you join lfd group thats wiped and waiting on a another tank to join group

lol

its always intresting when you first zone in and you can read the hope in thier chat languagethat acompetent tank is there

MF'S STOLE the most useful M+ tool we had imo, with intervene/warbringer was deprecated

shit im gettin there too nimchip gn

[lusty grotto]

lol nite

[oblique garnet]

Fuck necrotic

@outer dew 16+ KR rip key :<

[outer dew]

constant bricking

smh

[oblique garnet]

nah i havent even tried it

Got after the shrine

[outer dew]

need a rogue

[oblique garnet]

Ye and a dk prolly

[outer dew]

ehh

what healer you run with?

[oblique garnet]

I did those with pugs

Had a monk / disc priest

actually managed to time high keys with pugs

and without voice comms aswell

[outer dew]

rjj

yjsy dounfd nivr

[oblique garnet]

???

[outer dew]

yes

[daring marlin]

r u ok?

[outer dew]

no

[oblique garnet]

Tofu is just salty that im gaining lead

[outer dew]

i mean

guil bby

take me to keys

on my mage

<3

[daring marlin]

I need to

level my lock

[oblique garnet]

Youre giving up?

[outer dew]

lmao

no

just doing mostly sales this week

no one wants to push

i'm alliance

qq

not a lot of keys normally

[oblique garnet]

Understandable

[daring marlin]

next week he's gonna go ham

just you watch!!!

[oblique garnet]

Ye but so will i

[outer dew]

finna clap on ya

👢 🍵 👏

now that i understand

[oblique garnet]

No.

[outer dew]

si

[oblique garnet]

Whats the highest key youve done this week?

Oh shit wait no you get the reset on tuesday

Notlikethis

Im actually gonna lose

FeelsBadMan

[cinder nova]

maybe I'm just getting old

But what the fuck is the soup part of that emoji string for

[sick sentinel]

Is the formula for the amount that ip grants changing? I have never seen the versatility part until today

@cinder nova it's suppose to be tea, like a green tea right

Cuz if it's brown ppl think it's coffee or soda

[cinder nova]

Doesn't change the question really

[sick sentinel]

👢 🍵 👏 = boot tea clap = thunder clap because (??)

[daring marlin]

It's cringe

[sick sentinel]

Some Pwarrior pulled 125k dps on zul with thunder clap spam
It's a bit absurd, I am 370 and see it go to like 30k on some m+ trash pulls.

[daring marlin]

125k on mythic?

like as burst that went down? cuz that's believable

boost has done over 100k on zek adds when they spawned

[sick sentinel]

125k dps yes, it's real

Asmond gold showed the logs live

[daring marlin]

? ? ?

[sick sentinel]

And he had a dps race between all tanks and a warrior did some 42k or 38k sustained or some shit

[daring marlin]

What you're saying is patently false lol

[dark lark]

I don't get how people do so much damage as prot warriors, I'm ilvl 374, use Avatar with anger management and demo shout with booming and I still can't crack 10k DPS overall in a m+10

Typically end up high 8k, low 9k

[sick sentinel]

https://youtu.be/IEGpBmx7WGY

Believe what you want numbers don't lie

[daring marlin]

I literally watched the same thing

the warrior got up to 25k

and dipped

cuz that's how it happens

nowhere near what you said

the sustained damage was legit half of what you said

LOL

[dark lark]

Haha pretty insane

That prot pally initial burst is good too but with anger management Avatar pulled ahead

[daring marlin]

The prot pally burst was only because of lightforged

[oblique garnet]

Thats kinda meh single target tbh

Also depending on a dungeon i usually end up with 12-13k overall this week because i have to kite stuff will probably be more next week

[daring marlin]

next week

is our dream week

[dark lark]

How many stacks are you guys building necrotic to before using leap/intervene to kite?

[oblique garnet]

35-40 depending on cds and dungeon

[daring marlin]

ballsy

[oblique garnet]

As long as im like 70%+ hp its fine

[daring marlin]

fair enough

[oblique garnet]

But that 9s youre not doing damage on the adds is not good

Next week tho

[daring marlin]

hellyeahbrother

[oblique garnet]

Oh my god its gonna be glorious

[daring marlin]

I got m vectis chest

my body is ready

[oblique garnet]

I still need that vectis shield

[sick sentinel]

Hm highest its showing is 49k, but i watched his stream and he was like wait wtf.

[daring marlin]

the prot paladin had a very high burst solely due to being a lightforged draenei

the warrior hit 25k briefly and that was it

lol

probably could've done more damage if he used fathoms instead of vial

who knows

[oblique garnet]

Lul reddit popping off with the 8.1 class changes ”prot warrior only getting ip off gcd” no mention of the range block, charge off gcd etc

[daring marlin]

of course not

I'm surprised they're not like

yo preach said many top guilds are gearing prot warriors in the event that they become op!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

also cmon dude the ranged block doesn't matter

It buffs pallies too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's just ignore we're the only one with guaranteed blocks lolololol

[merry cave]

Lol they toned down baatioj of might

[daring marlin]

barely

on a mythic piece

it's like 50 less mastery

big whoop

[dark lark]

I was just about to ask if it was even worth replacing over DC/BFI/archive

[daring marlin]

It will be when season 2 starts

with the new raid

[dark lark]

On paper those 3 still sound better

[daring marlin]

cuz new rings

two rings>one

[dark lark]

Two tier 1 rings per piece???

[daring marlin]

...yes?

lol

[dark lark]

Interesting

[daring marlin]

The new outer ring will give us two spec specific choices as well

I.E. this piece I'm looking at has bastion and DC

on the outer ring

[oblique garnet]

oh limit maximum is gonna do a key

This should be good

[daring marlin]

wuh oh

he's saying warrior takes less damage and requires less healing

UH OH

please use trees

lol

[oblique garnet]

Why would he pull the other pack aswell

[steady fiber]

Hi guys, should i use wow token and play wow now, or i should wait just for 8.1 update :/ bcs atm thinking

[daring marlin]

man I'm pumped for that new ALCHEMIST TRINKET

B O Y S

[oblique garnet]

can you link?

[stone crag]

8.1 wont change much, so if you're interested in what's to offer now then you'll like 8.1 @steady fiber

[oblique garnet]

interesting

scales up to 415?

[daring marlin]

Hopefully they'll add shit to upgrade it.

[oblique garnet]

Terrible at kiting YIKES

[daring marlin]

I think he means on their own

[oblique garnet]

Yeah obviously on their own

[sick sentinel]

@steady fiber new raid comes out in January so come back then

[oblique garnet]

But theres legit never a group where you dont have someone with slow

[daring marlin]

but hey

even if the alch trinket can't be upgraded

It'll still be a nice trinket going into the new raid

and fucking around in uldir right as 8.1 drops lol

I ALREADY GOT MUH MATS READY

[oblique garnet]

@daring marlin You watching this?

[daring marlin]

yes lol

I agree with Sense, though.

fuck this week

kiting is aids gameplay

[oblique garnet]

Ye

[daring marlin]

I wanna charge in and mongo

[oblique garnet]

I dont get why he is limiting himself to like the worst possible area to kite

[daring marlin]

oof

[oblique garnet]

Actually triggering gameplay

[daring marlin]

pats

my fear got unbound

clip that shit

omega

[oblique garnet]

He wanted to show prot warrior gameplay

and now hes showing what the community thinks of the prot warrior ;__;

[sick sentinel]

Is sense streaming?

What are you watching?

[oblique garnet]

Limit Maximum

[daring marlin]

I love when people bodypull shit in freehold

amazing

[sick sentinel]

Oh

[daring marlin]

anywhere really

[sick sentinel]

Yeah its so bad

[oblique garnet]

Idk why he didnt just do the 2 packs together instead of the big boi

[sick sentinel]

Sometimes I'm like, "I was going to pull that anyway" but with necrotic, I wanna drop combat first

[daring marlin]

If you feel worse than paper then you're not playing prot right

thanks buddy

love you

[oblique garnet]

Atleast he is getting something right

[daring marlin]

I can't watch anymore

t r i g g e r e d

I get so tilted when people bodypull shit

[oblique garnet]

wasnt a bodypull

[daring marlin]

been like that since court of stars and pets

starfall idk

[oblique garnet]

nah

it was max

[daring marlin]

w/e half paying attention

[oblique garnet]

with crackling thunder

he was too close

[daring marlin]

rekt

crackling reached that far?

dafuq

[oblique garnet]

yup

[daring marlin]

guess I underestimate the range

[oblique garnet]

Its sometimes scuffed when its on a like ledge

[sick sentinel]

Crackling's range is huge man

[daring marlin]

woah, I didn't know that change

whacky

[sick sentinel]

And regarding 👢 🍵 👏 ing, I was using the term "booty clap" instead of thunderclap before I started becoming active in the discord

When we talking about huge deeps tho

[zinc mauve]

boot tea clap...

[oblique garnet]

Pretty sure the sharks dont disappear but instead get rooted

Not sure if they changed it from the root

[dark lark]

Either way the sharks are nerfed

[oblique garnet]

oh lol i dont think they are actually even gonna time this XD

[dark lark]

? He did

Despite all the deaths lol

14k DPS overall

[oblique garnet]

Yup seems about right

If he had actually done the dungeon properly he would have done bit less

Just couple of those monkaS pulls

boosted the damage alot

[valid scaffold]

Do prot warriors do the most dmg in raid currently? Wasn't sure if I reviewed the metrics properly. I knew they had strong aoe but is their st savage as well?

[oblique garnet]

prot pally probably does more damage on ST

maybe

[dark lark]

Yeah he was a bit yolo leading up to shark

[oblique garnet]

the pathing was so bad it triggers me

and he is 1.8k rio

T__T

[daring marlin]

no vers he says

🤔

[dark lark]

Nah he said it's situational

He stacked vers for m fetid

[daring marlin]

he legit just said as prot warrior no vers

lol

because someone asked about secondaries on prot in general

[dark lark]

Shrug, a couple nights ago he was showing logs on fetid where he stacked vers to tank thrashes

Used heavy rep too for extended shield block

[scarlet vortex]

So what secondary stats should you be focusing on

[dark lark]

Haste first still

[oblique garnet]

haste and then its w/e

[daring marlin]

^

[scarlet vortex]

Kk, thanks

[daring marlin]

lol

he's going ham on people that epeen about r.io and logging

omega

[dark lark]

? He's not wrong

[daring marlin]

I didn't say he is wrong.

I'm laughing because there are people here that epeen about r.io.

and logging

you melon

[vocal nimbus]

Well, if you got big numbers

You gotta know one or two things

[dark lark]

To a certain extent, but his point is that theyre not the full metrics to which you can judge a player

Logs too

It's a good starting point sure

[vocal nimbus]

Logs certainly can be sketchy, but a good rio is pretty serious

Even more as a tank

When i pug i look at people's completed runs tho

[oblique garnet]

especially if youre prot warrior

[vocal nimbus]

That can tell you if that someone is a leaver or not

[oblique garnet]

Getting 1.4k io on dk is w/e

[vocal nimbus]

Getting 1.4 with any tank is whatever

[oblique garnet]

Try pugging and getting to 1.4k with a prot and weed through the mud

[daring marlin]

I think his point is because of community perception

and yep

[dark lark]

Bingo

[daring marlin]

cuz muh self healing

[strong forum]

Self healing ain't shit, my 385 prot took less healing in a 16 than my 350 dk in a 10

[daring marlin]

hellyeahbrother

[oblique garnet]

Ye

Same with my dk which is at 370

Probably doesnt help that im nowhere near as good with the dk as im on the warrior tho

[strong forum]

Same

[daring marlin]

I might revisit the DK in 8.1.

[strong forum]

But still

Bdk is just utility power house, that's the annoying part

[oblique garnet]

For sure

[strong forum]

It's not survivability

[oblique garnet]

Honestly giving warriors mass grip would make them best m+ tanks for any other week than necrotic

[dark lark]

I wish we had gag order and shield slam and dispel back

Hell, avenger shield interrupts casts

Shield slam dispel*

[daring marlin]

dispel on shield slam is what I want back most

the amount of times

I have to yell at my friends to dispel

gets old

[dark lark]

Spell steal plx

Purge

[daring marlin]

kill the big guy first

ok you didn't

[dark lark]

Hello???

[daring marlin]

spellsteal

spellsteal

today?

[dark lark]

Lol

[daring marlin]

hello?

ok

[oblique garnet]

Thats why im considering switch to belf

Just so i can purge

[daring marlin]

man

I was so mad

[dark lark]

Every 2 minutes

[daring marlin]

for my blood elf

when they got rid of the interupt

cuz that shit was crazy

[oblique garnet]

Oh yeah

[daring marlin]

then they introduce

all these fucking dispellable buffs

EVERYWHERE

and it's just like

what have you done

[oblique garnet]

Like i went to do arenas on my warlock coming back into bfa

And was like man why the fuck is this not interrupting

[daring marlin]

LOL

[dark lark]

I started playing a resto sham alt and purging shit is actually so fun

[scarlet vortex]

Try disc priest purging with 3x twisted trait lul

[dark lark]

I purged like 4 minions in that first Kings rest pull

That was great

With a tremor totem

[oblique garnet]

dont remind me i have +16 kr that i need to get done today or tomorrow zzz

[dark lark]

Wish I could just Shield slam those assholes

[strong forum]

We have kr 15 and 17...

[dark lark]

Gross

[scarlet vortex]

Kr oof

[strong forum]

Gonna be yikes, but we need it done

Big score

[oblique garnet]

Imagine doing shrine 15+ and then getting the 16+ kr from it

[strong forum]

We did

[dark lark]

Lol

[oblique garnet]

Ayy so did i brother

[strong forum]

Was fucking yikes

[oblique garnet]

Proper slap in the face

[strong forum]

We did temple 16 and got kr 17... I'm dreading it

Temple is giga ez this week BTW

[oblique garnet]

Yeah i thought so aswell

idk what people were treading about it

fearing*

[dark lark]

Because things don't stack necrotic that easily?

[strong forum]

It's just only small groups

And the bosses hit like wet noodles this week

[dark lark]

What I meant is there lots of casters and stuff

[oblique garnet]

Not really

[daring marlin]

temple is only annoying in that final room and you can cheese it

so just cheese it lol

[strong forum]

Yeah the smallies are cancer

[dark lark]

I bugged it on accident last week, not sure how

[daring marlin]

i repot u

[dark lark]

But we opened the mouth with only one eye

[daring marlin]

gonna get beaned

[candid vine]

I've got a 375 prot pally and a 378 prot warrior --- which do you think will be better off once 8.1 hits? for raids and m+

[daring marlin]

play both

see the world

[strong forum]

Both will be fotm

[daring marlin]

also whichever you prefer lol

[dark lark]

Unless youve tested bosses on PTR, nobody knows

Both will be fine

[daring marlin]

boost playing an enh shaman

disgusting

[dark lark]

For m+

[oblique garnet]

Idk if he is like teaching the other prot warrior what to do or whats happening

oh nvm its vdh now

He did like 3 dungeons with a prot warrior and was screaming at him because they were wiping on fh+10 😄

[daring marlin]

people rag on enh but they can do some legit damage

BOOST EATING THAT CHARGE

AHAH

[oblique garnet]

Gotta say that i the music is on point in boosts stream

[daring marlin]

he usually listens to the same playlist

this is different

o_O

[oblique garnet]

Idk why but alot of the korean people i know listen to this type of music

[daring marlin]

about to hit 120 on my lock

then dat destro life

[oblique garnet]

Shame that destro aint as much fun as it used to be

[daring marlin]

fucking

MoP destro baby

[oblique garnet]

Oh god

MoP prepatch destro

[daring marlin]

I loved trolling people on timeless isle

[oblique garnet]

Was godlike

[daring marlin]

get the chi'ji buff

75% of all secondaries

one shotting fools with chaos bolt

[oblique garnet]

Legit oneshotting people with just chaosbolt + shadowburn on arenas

[daring marlin]

rofl

hellyeah

shadowburn should be baseline

[oblique garnet]

it was

[daring marlin]

I mean

now

[oblique garnet]

Yeah

[daring marlin]

Only thing I'm not looking forward to is the CDs but w/e

[oblique garnet]

But like my friend and i just qued for 2v2 on arenas cc'd the one guy and killed people in one stun with chaosbolt + shadowburn

Was actually stupid

[ionic fern]

😂

THat's the MW healer.

When i joined a m+ grp

[dull granite]

Anyone know a way I can view my parse history from previous expansions? Guilds be asking for logs but all of mine are from cata :/

[daring marlin]

@ionic fern sad

[oblique garnet]

@dull granite I dont think you can go that far back

[crimson sentinel]

Cataclysm is at world of logs I think

Not Warcraft logs

Pretty sure Warcraft logs got big in mop

[daring marlin]

yes

[soft kindle]

WcL started up in ToT

and world of logs was pretty monkaS

[dull granite]

Damn forgot about world of logs. Found some of my parses. Wish it showed when I got rank 1 though. I remember getting rank 1 on alysrazor but looks like some people cheesed it even harder than we did since then.

[queen owl]

prot war simc yet?

[daring marlin]

no

[queen owl]

rip

saw prot profile bundled with newest simc but wouldnt run for me

[ionic fern]

@daring marlin ALl good, we 2 chested it . 😂

[daring marlin]

insane

you're a prot warrior

stop lying

[sick sentinel]

Is Protection looking viable for the next tiers mythic difficulty?

[vocal nimbus]

Yes

[sick sentinel]

Damn, nice

[strong forum]

Rumours say even best tank for some bosses

[sick sentinel]

yes the buff is good for both raiding and m+

specialy blocking ranged physical for m+

[rough egret]

Did they remove Mastery buff from Bastion of Might??

[astral crystal]

no

they reduced it a bit

[rough egret]

To 0

[astral crystal]

dont look at mmo champ notes

check wowhead's

idk if mmochamp reverse engineers are tards but they always fuck the values up

[rough egret]

Ok

Sry for panic

[astral crystal]

that's for base ilvl, someone posted a pic of the 415 vraiant, it's like 599

[rough egret]

Hmm

Still more than 50% nerf

[astral crystal]

not like a mastery steroid is anything to write home about anyway

[placid mango]

RF trait any good?

[outer dew]

Mastery steroid sounds nice in my books

[astral crystal]

yeah yeah everyone's going to come out and say it's great etc whatever

we all know it's a mediocre trait

[outer dew]

Is it though? We play around our Avatar quite a bit

[stone crag]

it wasn't amazing pre-nerf tbh, now it's worse

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[outer dew]

Mastery = more block + critical block and a AP steroid isn't it?

[stone crag]

sure but it's how much mastery it gives, is now not that much at all

[outer dew]

Iunno. If at 415 it's giving ~600 mastery

That's a lot of raw stats

To be more specific. It's a good chunk of raw on demand stat

[soft kindle]

it got nerfed because stacking three gave you a ton of mastery

to the point it was a bit stupid

[outer dew]

Like, I can't imagine blaster master transitioning into 8.1 unerfed for fire mage

~400 mastery a stack, you get 3 it's ~1200 a stack

That shit gives most mages 4800 mastery in their opener for a bit

I think the most important thing about our azerite trait inc to 8.1

Is that it's on demand

It's not a proc where we go. Hey, we so a bit more damage or more tanky now

It's an on demand AZ trait that benefits a lot from AM

[daring marlin]

People rag on the trait when it's obviously not bad at all lol

cringe

[outer dew]

Bruh

Wtf

Do you ever sleep?

[daring marlin]

I'm a robot

Do you sleep?! It's 9 AM

[outer dew]

It's 6 am pst

Tyvm

And I was catching up on reading

[daring marlin]

a likely story

FRIEND

[outer dew]

Why you betraying me and leveling warlock?

Inagine if I leveled a monk? Smh

[daring marlin]

120 baby

when I get off work today it will be time to ascend

[outer dew]

Smh

[daring marlin]

A 385 piece with bastion on it gives 534 mastery

absolutely horrible!!!!!!!!!!!

It's like 11% mastery with the 385

[astral crystal]

nobody's saying it's horrible, it's just not as amazing as some make it out to be

[daring marlin]

I'm being hyperbolic chill

that art guy would probably call it horrible though

omega

[astral crystal]

it's another half inspired trash design azerite talent, such is life in beta for azeroth

[daring marlin]

meh

[astral crystal]

kinda buttpained we're never going to see a trait as good as DC again

[daring marlin]

meh we all knew dc was getting rekt

feelsbfaman

[stone crag]

never said it was horrible ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steady dragon]

Heya, i've noticed my intercept goes for targetoftarget (lets say im charging a raid boss) instead of the boss itself. I've ploughed through my addons but found nothing that would cause this. any ideas?

also makes me charge nothing if the targetoftarget is me myself

[onyx vessel]

If the ip you got didnt count to the cap it would be pretty solid

Set it to focus

Focus ot

Gg ez

Also intercept marco is a waste of gcd

[steady dragon]

its a straight up skill, no macro

hence my question

[onyx vessel]

O

[steady dragon]

its pretty annoying

[onyx vessel]

I just heroic leap into boss

Its faster

[steady dragon]

doesn't solve my problem :p

[daring marlin]

@stone crag If anybody would, it’d be you. 😃

And I was right!

[coral dew]

Lol latest ptr change to Bastion of Might trait: increases mastery by 0 for 20 seconds instead of 259

Litty

[vocal nimbus]

wrong number

check wowhead

[astral crystal]

stop looking at mmo-chump

use wowhead for reverse engi

[coral dew]

I was just making a joke after that last comment lol

[coral dew]

So does the IP absorb from BoM actually ignore the 1.3x IP cap?

Gonna assume no but still

[robust bronze]

is it benefital to stack Crit for us if we do alot of m+?

saw a leaderboard tank stack it, but idk

[potent anvil]

I think its just w/e highest ilvl gear you have. I have high haste and crit for prot, but thats because its the highest ilvl for me.

[amber siren]

there's some argument to be made about crit gaining more value the more mobs are hitting you but i mean, you'd need perfect sets of multiple equipment to see what you'd like better and it's not realistic

just use whatever highest ilvl you can get

[astral crystal]

can't switch gear in m+ anyway so Kappa

[onyx vessel]

i love how ppl complain about the new trait tho its replacing a worse one

sooo

good ol wod days when it was mastery>crit>vers>haste>multi

LEL

[lusty grotto]

this change is just so they do internal changes to

it

it's not @robust bronze

[sand egret]

eh, I'd go with Rybie in that one could make the argument in a M+ environment

[coral dew]

Idk I still think bom could be really powerful if stacked

[lusty grotto]

i mean it's a dps bump at best

[sand egret]

BOM will still be solid

[coral dew]

it's a fuck ton of mastery for 20s

[lusty grotto]

bom will be solid since it doesnt compete with BFI/DC on a lot of pieces

we'll see though