justwait has been playing warrior on their reclears more nowadays
#protection
oblique garnet
dusk locust
tbh unless you're doing the raid way undergeared you should be able to get away with whatever survivability wise
neon tangle
They are also gearing their BDKs, prot pallies, and VDH
fickle citrus
So what you are saying is...... They are gearing everything.... just incase
shocking
robust wave
Well, prot has good dps, right?
neon tangle
good AoE dps at least
dusk locust
his original point wasn't that people have warriors it's that people are thinking there's a chance they'll be used
(still talking bleeding edge here)
robust wave
sounds like a fingers crossed sorta thing
lusty grotto
crossing fingers for Limit
robust wave
My only thought was, if you have something on lockdown, maybe prot tanks just help you do it a bit faster
lusty grotto
then get ready for the masses here
nocturne schooner
You mean those of us who lurk and don't post?
lusty grotto
if limit runs it on prog, get those 
emojis ready
dusk locust
^
oblique garnet
Oh god please no
lusty grotto
robust wave
lol
lusty grotto
hey its fun!
dusk locust
rev up your pins button
neon tangle
I personally am excited for that happening
fickle citrus
neon tangle
especially since warriors won't really be less punishing to play
"but if world first guilds use this it HAS to be good"
lusty grotto
listen, i know it sounds horrible but it's entertainment for slow work days
can't wait for dec 11
fickle citrus
really tho this is what we will need more 
lusty grotto
hold up, let me clarify that:
"can't wait for dec 11, then to be tired of the same shit 3 hours later"
oblique garnet
If limit actually uses prot warrior this will happen 
lusty grotto
dusk locust
"guys how do i sim prot war"
fickle citrus
if Method use it I prodict a 98% chance of yes. If limit use it more like 89%
robust wave
i've been assuming that pugs strugle w/prot, cuz prot operates too differently from other tanks. we cant grip, or range silence. so we have to use LoS tricks
fickle citrus
cause you know limit is worse then method so why do things the first losers way
robust wave
I haven't tanked other classes, so I can't really know what they do. But players get used to one kinda style, and don't understand the shift
oblique garnet
Ye but dont you just love it when they go after the run "Wtf is that damage" "How did you take so little damage" after pugging m+
fickle citrus
those players should not be Main tanking a raid then
robust wave
I mean, M+ pugs will always get confused by prot warriors, cuz we're too different from how DK and DH operate
oblique garnet
Ye we dont really need to run away from the mobs unless its necrotic
robust wave
So they'll try to play the same way, and the group wont work, cuz the tanks on one page, and they're on another
sand egret
Prot viable in 8.1?!
supple path
I just want god to descend from the heavens and scream at every member of the playerbase, "What is required in a +18 is not required in a +10, stop being a dooouuuucheee".
because honestly warriors are really strong in +10s.
dusk locust
i was on my priest alt in a pug. leader was totally ignoring guardians spriests etc for meta picks in this 10 key
supple path
90% of pugs behave that way.
dusk locust
even with somewhat decent io scores
robust wave
Yeah, cuz (IMO) players don't know how to work around the strengths of other classes. The get decent at rolling out w/the popular ones, and then wonder why they fail when the comp changes
supple path
My warrior averages about a 1% acceptance rate to groups with an 800ish io. My 25 ilvls lower, lower io score DK...probably 30%
I just form my own groups with my keys anyhow, but it's pretty saddening whenever I try to join pugs.
dusk locust
i almost never pug on my prot war
robust wave
^
dusk locust
the like 4 times i signed up w/ it i had trouble getting in maybe half the time
it just depends
robust wave
Its ok fam, my shoulders aren't that strong either
supple path
oof
Yeah, I queue with a holy paladin a lot, they don't like that either. Can only imagine shaman.
dusk locust
we signed up for like 6 groups and ended up doing somethig else
robust wave
yeah, but shaman seem rad tho
dusk locust
he's an excellent player and is generally one of our top dps in raid and in m+
modern brook
eevery single enhance shaman I've played with in m+ tops meters consistently
dusk locust
no way to really show that to a pug before joining tho
modern brook
IDK why people say they're trash
robust wave
I messed up and went down in a key. Bro brought out the rock monster, and the party was still up when i came jumping back into the fray
dusk locust
and he knows his mechanics and interrupts
robust wave
Bro has top dps, and top interrupts when we run together
supple path
People just massively overvalue the DH/rogue/moonkin/mage utility that 95% of the players you pug with never use any of.
I think it's been 6 moonkins since I last saw a force of nature.
modern brook
underrot one is op
sick sentinel
hey guys, I got a finger cramp from spamming devastate is that normal
modern brook
YOu just need to not fuck the key up
dusk locust
i really don't see why
modern brook
cause the only hard part of that dungeon is before the first boss
dusk locust
it's really not though
modern brook
K well enjoy being wrong
dusk locust
😐
robust wave
@sick sentinel you just need to bind it to more keys, and use your whole hand
sick sentinel
@robust wave thanks man
modern brook
IDK how you can say that any of the trash in that dungeon is harder than hte mobs before the first boss unless you've literally never ran the dungeon
robust wave
I feel like the shadow bolt worms are what gave my groups the most trouble
dusk locust
i guess i'm just not willing to risk the key being dead if we wipe once
modern brook
Planning around losing is bad ways to win, imo
dusk locust
i dunno i'd rather time 5 keys than time 3 really fast and deplete 2
world record attempt or whatever i'd shroud
or if it's high enough that i know we'd barely make it otherwise
no way in hell i'm shrouding that in a pug though someone always body pulls on accident
sand egret
UR first part trash is >>>>> everything after than in terms of difficulty
honestly, the gift of g'huun + dark resto combo on top of the Warcry is why its brutal
oblique garnet
arcane torrent the gift
sand egret
well not everyone is a BE
oblique garnet
spellsteals etc work on it aswell
uneven mason
You don't pull the first section of UR trash
sand egret
yeah, or the DH
dusk locust
yeah we have a routine for interrupting that
only real hard part is getting netted and then swiped
sand egret
another reason why the DH is a hot pick 😃
modern brook
^
oblique garnet
That pack is spicy on teeming weeks
sand egret
yerp
uneven mason
you can also clear the first pathroller, maggot and ticks on the left then windrush totem and invis pot like pros down to the boss and then ahnk+Res
modern brook
@dusk locust you make thme try it before you puit the key in
uneven mason
sorry on the right
dusk locust
maybe i'm just haunted by bad experiences
oblique garnet
its also not a hard pack to kill either
dusk locust
some pug always body pulls during that, or they body pull something later on
if you shroud 1 wipe is dead key
uneven mason
on teeming the UR Packs are nightmare materials above 10
supple path
My pug highlight of the week was death running to last boss in motherlode then two people released.
dusk locust
no
uneven mason
esp the firstp latform with 2 infested every time +++
dusk locust
wipe is absolutely not dead in UR especially after the 3 min increase
uneven mason
yeah its not a dead key unless you wipe at a bad spot with the 3m in you can eat 2 wipes
and still timer it
the last boss is snoozer easy
the last jog from Cawgbytt to last boss requires 4 whole trash pulls
modern brook
maybe you can explain this to me cause I really dont get it:
Option 1: skip garbage pulls, do first boss, continue on the key, if you wipe its a dead key
uneven mason
uh
oblique garnet
If you skip and dont have shroud up again its a deadkey
uneven mason
Just reskip the trash
modern brook
Option 2: Burn time killing maggot, first pat mom, big pack, pat on bridge, bridge pack, then first boss
dusk locust
that's not a burn i skip a bunch of stuff later
you have to kill like 2 mobs after the 2nd to last boss
uneven mason
wasn't a dead key until our BDK decided to some how accidentally yank both caster packs before 3rd boss.
modern brook
its a burn because you're killing harder mobs
uneven mason
4 totems RIP
dusk locust
it's pug protection
uneven mason
worms die in 15s?
modern brook
my point is you're protecting nothing
uneven mason
I mean
oblique garnet
but you can just run away from the totems ?
supple path
Yeah sometimes you do have to plan around a certain level of failure in pugs, even if it's then not 'optimal'
oblique garnet
You dont have to kill them
uneven mason
But really its only an issue on teeming weeks
dusk locust
worms provide like 4 points (i dunno what % i don't use that)
supple path
I've had a lot of groups where I was just like 'hahahaaaaa no way will these people do this skip properly'
uneven mason
otherwise you can blow the trash up too fast to matter
modern brook
Irc worms are 1.7%
dusk locust
i'd rather aoe down a bunch of the beginning stuff
modern brook
I just dont get why
dusk locust
i solo interrupts on the priest
uneven mason
Pro tip - the fattys do more damage than any thing else in the zone
modern brook
would you rather do those pulls than a 2nd pack of boneybois
uneven mason
whihc is why you skip em
dusk locust
no need to depend on anyone
uneven mason
so teeming weeks with double fatty
you're going to have a dead tank
due to no room to kite
oblique garnet
What fattys?
modern brook
^ also in teemingt they put a worm in the way of the skip
oblique garnet
Those at the end of the dungeon?
uneven mason
they put 2 worms on that platform
dusk locust
you can get around the worm
oblique garnet
Matrons?
modern brook
^
oblique garnet
but they arent that bad to kill
modern brook
The current discussion being: Is it smarter to kill those mobs as pug protection
oblique garnet
as a pug protection? 100%
modern brook
"not that bad" is a useless metric dude
Would you rather fight the matrons or literally anything else in that dungeon for %
modern brook
repeat for mask man, random target snare dudes, and the heal bitch
dusk locust
but i think it's b/c i can solo interrupt the priest
oblique garnet
Depending how high of an key im doing and if its fortified or tyrannical and we dont have a skip we will just bl the first platform
sand egret
i started just bringing a warlock
supple path
The hard to fail death run is mighty.
oblique garnet
Warlocks only on tyrannical weeks
supple path
And it also is great for later on when a guy stands in a totem and then instantly releases.
dusk locust
lol that's the other one
pug dies and instantly releases
now they're stuck behind the stuff we skipped
sand egret
the shocking amount of people who don't realize you dont have to kill the totems
i had this dps rage at me because everyone but his melee ass side-stepped that shit
dusk locust
they don't realize it b/c they aren't told
instead they're called names and ppl rage quit the key
sand egret
he got popped and was like "OMG TOTEMS"
and we're all like...if you put half as much effort interrupting Withering Curse than you do raging at us, we'd be done with this shit alread.y...
dusk locust
i always explain to pugs how the totems in atal work
often they go "oh i didn't know that"
even now
supple path
Oh yeah, half the player-base in wow has no idea what's going on and is just trying to fly under the radar and not get yelled at.
dusk locust
exactly
you get way more mileage out of your pugs if you explain what you're doing
people like to say nothing and then yell at them later
sand egret
1st boss in SotS is always my fav
dusk locust
rarely do i make it through that without someone dying
supple path
I always like when people rage about a mechanic the exact second knowing about the mechanic no longer helps anyone.
"Ugh why did you ignore that thing for the last 3 minutes that now no longer matters!"
sand egret
or dps who bum rush tentacles in SoB before you get there. "OMG TANK?!"
dusk locust
oh god yeah
supple path
god, I'm off the charts this week on "I'm at half hp, eating mage food to heal up as the 100% out of mana healer begins to drink...and watch as 2 half hp DPS go flying into the next pack"
sand egret
or generally dps who have 0 fucking clue to wait a GCD before unleashing all hell on mobs you're trying to drag back
supple path
Ugh, I keep having the little health adds get killed WHILE I'm pulling this week + drop sanguine in stupid spots
sand egret
or.when.they.stun.mobs.you're.moving.
supple path
maybe I should do fewer waycrests and TDs
sand egret
fucking DH's man
dusk locust
when certain well known guys say that dps pulling mobs means the tank isn't going fast enough
facepalm
supple path
Maybe if the DPS weren't alls tanding in sanguine we'd have been ready to pull. asshats.
dusk locust
healer is out of mana "tank go"
sand egret
ohh that's a classic one
supple path
They always pull it somewhere goddamn dumb too.
dusk locust
mhm
sand egret
I'm fine with misdirects....unless its Bolstering week....
dusk locust
you're waiting for that templar pat in shrine, dps gets impatient and pulls
supple path
Ugh, motherlode, doing one last pull for % before we skip...and the DPS just go flying into the mobs as I'm blowing up bombs, and promptly bolster the whole pack.
Faster pulls is not always faster clears, and furthermore, get off my lawn.
sand egret
esp with current timers....
sick sentinel
pulling large groups with sanguine is a really dangerous thing to do.
sand egret
depends on your real estate
supple path
Yeah, it's something you do in very specific circumstances
sick sentinel
15% max hp/s sucks ass
sand egret
if you got enough space it really isn't bad
uneven mason
pulling large packs is fine with Sanguine
as long as you have a fucking football fields
supple path
Circumstances the DPS who's pulling basically never takes into account.
sand egret
the issue comes down to when the mobs die
uneven mason
If a DPS Pulls in my groups I immediatly boot them, its generally easier to timer
sand egret
if you can get two pools to trigger at once its WAY easier
uneven mason
when I control the pull
sand egret
than drop > move > drop
dusk locust
lol
uneven mason
if they yank mobs I'm not ready for, thats a instant kick
like I've found if I had a flipperhanded idiot who is impatient
dusk locust
if it's like a 10 i can see that
uneven mason
they'll slow us down more htan just 4manning
dusk locust
i don't invite DHs or hunters
sand egret
that trigger certain people
sick sentinel
if you keep your eye on the mobs HP pool, you can start to back pedal when they are around 20% or less to reduce time loss from sanguine as Pwarr
uneven mason
^^^^^ @dusk locust
dusk locust
and don't invite people with too high an io score
that increases my success rate hugely
sand egret
if someone whispers me after signing up saying "BID DPS"
very high chance i'm not bringing you
modern brook
MY favorite wisper when im mkaing a pug is 340 dk's applying
modern brook
followed by "main is 1.1k"
old night
FETID DOWN BOIS
uneven mason
I mean DH is awesome DPS
sand egret
eyyy
uneven mason
old night
got his ass last night
dusk locust
grats!!
uneven mason
only one who beat me
sand egret
👢 🍵 👏
uneven mason
EY
sick sentinel
i saw some asshat yesterday posting a group for FH 6 "375+" his ilvl was like 344 or some crap
dusk locust
i like healing those
supple path
I legitimately have a harder time in most 5-6 pugs than I do in 10+ I form myself.
dusk locust
it's challenging
sand egret
cuz its like, they just want their key and they gotta sift through a sea of schmucks at that range
sand egret
so I like joining these groups, esp if I've seen them in the hopper for a while waiting on a tank
modern brook
There was some poor shmuck asking for log review on reddit yesterday
Who fit that description censuras 😦
sick sentinel
were they fury warriors? that might explain it, i've only ever had good dps with arms
sand egret
Fury + Explosive week = 👌
supple path
One was fury, one arms.
The arms was dangerously crazy though. He spent the whole instance shouting stuff like, "HKA TOALTLA TABXCD"
sick sentinel
well, like, i'm 367 in arms spec, and i pull about 13-14k single target on a patchwerk type fight with a 345 weapon
supple path
(which doesn't mean anything, just random gibberish. was very odd)
Yeah, I really like arms in m+ and think it's criminally undervalued by a lot of people - particularly on grievous weeks with second wind
modern brook
fury + Explosive week is just a poverty survival hunter on explosive week though
supple path
Explosive week in general is so amazing for warriors though, just need to keep group the fuck away from my victory rush healing orbs.
oblique garnet
Nim youre from na so i cant ever play with you unless i move to usa :<
sick sentinel
i prefer monk healers and druids personally
outer dew
@oblique garnet notlikethis
sick sentinel
priests can be iffy but are generally good too, shamans suck
oblique garnet
Tofu i still have like one more split run that i have to do tonight but after that its all about pushing 😄
outer dew
notlikethis
oblique garnet
@outer dew i got that 16 fh key and im not afraid to use the exploit to 2 chest it 😄
odd sedge
Any source on azerite traits for M+?
uneven mason
uneven mason
Thats my setup
course I logged out in arms
RIP
nothing like speed soloing island expeds
lusty grotto
we need an emoji for "check the icy veins guide"
i guess that falls into check the pins but
idk
but wait
he asked source
🤔
shit i'm not making any sense any more
sand egret
any...more?
uneven mason
👁 🙈 
daring marlin
Nimchimp always makes sense
signal prawn
Do we think prot azerite traits are going to change much in 8.1? As in, which we go for... I'm wondering if things like Bloodsport will be more competitive
daring marlin
Use whatever is highest ilvl.
You get mych more choice in what’s on each piece in 8.1 at least
lusty grotto
i mean bloodsport is good now
keen spire
Do yall think any of the other tanks are going to be on our level for dps come 8.1?
keen spire
I mean, I fuckin shit all over every tank I've ever grouped with for dps
so
I don't particularly care
lusty grotto
the answer is always yes
keen spire
but it would be nice to know if I made an alt
sand egret
the reality is you'll have access to double the traits, so you'll see more opportunities to use the others, in particular combined with the ability to deterministically get those traits @signal prawn
supple path
I just want my 3x azerite veins + impassive visage suit, damnit.
sand egret
Bloodsport is actually at the top of my "i want to try stacking 3x" list
signal prawn
The two changes I'm most excited about for m+ are ranged attacks can now be blocked and necrotic will be physical dmg
signal prawn
yup!
supple path
Yeah, no more AMSing it for DKs
lusty grotto
how did i miss this
supple path
I'm curious if BoP will remove it.
cinder nova
Jesus pugging M+ is so bad.
signal prawn
running around at 380 and just dicking on other dps is so amusing though, until the magic damage starts
prot right now is basically a dps with a shield
#bringgladback
sick sentinel
only complaint about prot warrior is not repostion mobs button for M+
signal prawn
it's called shockwave and leap away
lusty grotto
so is RoP
sick sentinel
no idea what rop is sorry
cinder nova
Honestly
uneven mason
I just introduced the HDH (only one who beats me in DPS generally for trash) in my guild to Boost's logs
cinder nova
WM doesn't seem designed with M+ in mind
uneven mason
I think he's questioning his life choices
supple path
Don't worry, instead of reactively using a button to instantly solve the problem, we can avoid it in the first place through proper planning, positioning, and LoS kiting! It's the prot warrior way!
signal prawn
isn't the highest dps on mythic zul still a prot war?
uneven mason
No
sick sentinel
what i meant though is like DK has death grip which pulls the mob right your feet by force
uneven mason
Rogues passed him up
sick sentinel
warriors don't got nothin like that, which can make it hard for sanguine for example
lusty grotto
no need to explain what death grip is
LoSing is your friend for sanguine
(or RoP lol)
uneven mason
frost mages too
supple path
Or typhoonkins
uneven mason
I throw markers and tell my group, "If you see the red X out, YOU SHOULD BE STANDING BY IT WHILE I PULL"
supple path
Ooh, that's a nice one. I need more cat herding macros.
uneven mason
mmhmm
lusty grotto
yeah if i put a marker out my team is just gonna troll me
uneven mason
I'll move the macro
mid fight
as a "go there"
its like being a hunter
but with worse pet AI
supple path
DBM was messing up on the heartsbane trio in Waycrest and keeping skull on the first target this week.
And 2 of the dps in my group just STAYED ON THAT TARGET
sick sentinel
i use markers mostly for showing correct paths so we don't aggro shit we aint supposed to
lusty grotto
Lol censuras
supple path
They're definitely trained to follow markers.
lusty grotto
Don't you guys have the "yall guise herd bout MDT?" macro?
I'm jk, I do have markers bound to my F-keys
I'm honestly not looking forward to pugging this week, I lost 2 of my team to unsub, and last week was fucked up without them
Was whoring my hpal here so badly
It's an easy week sure but still
lusty grotto
Do yall need a 2nd prot dps, let's go
sand egret
only did a few +12's but they weren't bad
had that one Hpal for my Tree Boi that....confused me to say the least.
but he was an outlier
lusty grotto
2 prot m+ imo
sand egret
if we had AoE taunt, that'd actually be legit this week
lusty grotto
Should do maroks 5 prot on explosive week
"we clear trash super fast but take 2 hours on bosses" depending on 1st affix lol
sick sentinel
starting to learn to macro stuff for my Pwarr, still alot to learn though
old night
dual shields
sand egret
yes.
crisp dawn
hi guys long time no read
i searched the web but i didnt find any good info for a better prot with 8.1
did blizz just ignore the problem?
crisp dawn
i should come here in the first place instead of trying to search on my own 😄
and then give the pinners cookies
sand egret
the tldr is we're going to be in a better place, and 8.1 does directly address some issues but its very much more of a QoL update (not saying that we aren't getting buffed as well)
final mist
@plain ice Don't be rude.
crisp dawn
im not saying its easy. the problem i see with prot is that its very punishing vs other tanks
onyx vessel
Back to work for me kek
crisp dawn
so any sane player would take another tank where they can relax a bit and dont to be so uberfocused all the time
uneven mason
nothing feels clunky anymore
just measured
I think playing prot makes your brain bigger
sand egret
I still stand by that it's not a matter of focus/less focus but rather what you need to be aware of at a given moment. Prot just requires forethought
tulip matrix
Is there a WA made with the blockable spell list by Sense?
sand egret
brew is the definiition of after thought
uneven mason
right
sand egret
its a built in 10 seconds afterthought
outer dew
100% uptime
uneven mason
"Press this every 7 seconds"
outer dew
double archive is probably becaue of having 385's + wants more damage
ionic ridge
So, with 375 is it viable ?
zinc mauve
titanforging is so stupid
outer dew
can't TF the azerite pieces though
zinc mauve
i run my guildie through a mythic 5 and he gets 395 legs with a socket
plain ice
oh.. well yea
outer dew
git guud
zinc mauve
not to mention my healer is still stuck with 360 shoes while our mage got 390 shoes from a mythic 8
an alt btw
supple path
Hah yeah, my DK got 390 pants from the first warfront I did on them, and it was just like 'are you serious'
plain ice
i had a friend who was convinced that rerolling to a tank guaranteed you higher ilvl pieces and more drops...
like actually convinced
tinfoil hate type-stuff
ionic ridge
Next level stupid
ionic ridge
Wait it's actually a... good idea
plain ice
ahaha
ionic ridge
Would be nice tho
plain ice
it would
tulip matrix
It's just the placebo effect of wanting something
tulip matrix
and actually getting it when you dont actually expect it
plain ice
i made a BDK alt recently to see what all the fuss is about
i was like
wtf is the point of this class. i can't fall off mountains and survive
this sucks
ember arrow
indeed
surreal stump
cinder pasture
I used to be a panda,, that reduced fall damage spoiled me so much when heroic leap was on cd...then I race changed and started dying more often 😂
stark sage
path not found
dies
neon tangle
Who doesn’t love smashing barrels
limber tulip
sure beats prot
ember arrow
antioxidant with le epic meme
ashen trellis
Still waiting for the large prot warrior changes that just had to wait until 8.1 to implement. You know, those changes that they didn't have time to implement during BFA beta.
crude dust
They probably misspoke and meant 9.1
ashen trellis
We are less then 2 weeks away from 8.1 and all they did was take ip back off the gcd. Its god damn hilarious actually lol
open bluff
strong forum
ranged block is INSANE
sand egret
and ya know, mitigating general gaps in SB...
sand egret
cuz -2 seconds of SB is totally nothing and not gonna affect us at all....
strong forum
thats huge aswell
sand egret
psh what are you tallllkin about..../s
ashen trellis
did I miss something? What do you mean ranged block
Shield block is still melee attacks
Unless im stupid and am missing something
vocal nimbus
In 8.1 you will be able to block ranged attacks
sand egret
prob should read the pins before posting woes
ashen trellis
On ptr. shield block still says blocks melee attacks
Maybe it's a universal block change I didn't see
but the tool tip lies, if what you guys are saying is ture.
ashen trellis
Welp. Ill see my self to the door.
vocal nimbus
Pick it up in the way out, you can use it for some blocks
sand egret
don't take it the wrong way, it's just people put the time and energy to go on there, test things out and verify stuff. Not reading it, asking the same questions (which happen in here at least 50 times a day), can wear thin. 8.1 is, at least around these parts, seen as a welcome improvement over 8.0.
oblique garnet
@outer dew fk i underestimated the adds in last part of siege and fked 16+
outer dew
LMAO
you need someone with poison cleanse
or they'l fuck you
reaaaaaaaaaaaaal
hard
oblique garnet
Nah theres the strat where you basically fence hop
outer dew
oh
did you really
run that far?
hmm
maybe I should give that a try this week
sitting on a +14
daring marlin
lol
oblique garnet
Ye like the adds on last part are fucking insane
oblique garnet
Only way you can reset necrotic is with fence hopping so you gotta do that
outer dew
esp because you can't RoP/stun the commander
chrome falcon
doesn't bop clear it now
oblique garnet
Still magical
chrome falcon
i thought they made it physical?
outer dew
just rull Dark iron dwarf ;^)
oblique garnet
8.1 mattacate
oblique garnet
Feelsbadman it was so easily timeable key and i fcked it
chrome falcon
remember that the mastery nerf looks worse than it is
outer dew
to get the feel for it
chrome falcon
it looks like they halved the mastery but that's only at base ilvl
at higher ilvls the nerf is proportionally less
outer dew
who doesn't want more mastery though?
chrome falcon
the trait is still extremely good
oblique garnet
Nah honestly it was because i completely forgot the fence strat in the beginning
outer dew
oh
for the trash before first boss?
yea
you just fence hop there
but the one before the entrance you just gotta lust
oblique garnet
Not before first boss
outer dew
oblique garnet
Not really
outer dew
iunno
that shit tears people up
like there's no real benefit on lusting boss for that one
and by the time you get there
you lost one lust
outer dew
because you get there around 33-34 miuntes
i think
by the time you clear the rest of the trash
you're already ~30
so you lose one lust
oblique garnet
Got motherlode key from it tho
outer dew
ML is a nice key
oblique garnet
Its a free one with warlock
outer dew
druid works too or any NE healer
oblique garnet
Lul alliance
oblique garnet
Idk why you still play alliance man
sand egret
they key to those big SoB poison packs is the dispel, or having a dedicated stunner for their casts
sand egret
i haven't done fence hopping, i wanna try that
oblique garnet
On na?
oblique garnet
I cant help you there bud
oblique garnet
Blade that doesnt help since its necrotic and the commander is blasting at you
So you have to fence hop
sand egret
yeah I guess for necrotic that is a problem
i was speaking to the poison dot itself, tbh
shit still trucks
oblique garnet
That wouldnt be problem if it werent necrotic
astral crystal
poor rogues
keen spire
Damn, we're not allowed to add reactions? Is that new or have I just never noticed?
vocal nimbus
Not new
keen spire
laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
lusty grotto
hello\
keen spire
Hello
lusty grotto
im back after 13 beers
lusty grotto
listen, don't / me
keen spire
o7
lusty grotto
\
lusty grotto
of course
lusty grotto
it's friday
keen spire
Bruh
I should get my damn Holy Paladin up already
Been focusing hard into Prot warrior
But now there's nothing to do for like two weeks for me
On the prot anyway
lusty grotto
waiting on that AC paladin to heal me so good
yeah welll
leveling up you find out why Prot warrior is so great
keen spire
Oh I know how it goes homie
The only thing I enjoyed leveling more than my prot warr was a VDH
But the endgame was quickly outpaced
junior ivy
hi prot people
keen spire
Hi catfriend
lusty grotto
hello friend of cats
keen spire
Prot outpaced VDH for me, I mean
junior ivy
i miss warrior discord
junior ivy
just stopped playing wow
keen spire
😮
junior ivy
been busy a lot
lusty grotto
it's not uncommon
junior ivy
yeah new job
lusty grotto
hard life
lusty grotto
dont worry cat, one day you will find enough energy (and money) to play again
junior ivy
its just customer service call center job lol
for an american health insurance company
keen spire
Do you like working in insurance?
I've heard good things and bad things depending on the person
junior ivy
all i can say is it makes me thankful as hell to be canadian 😂
lusty grotto
haha
keen spire
Health insurance is a fuckin nightmare, yo
keen spire
especially for us folks that actually need to use it regularly
goddamn chronic illnesses
junior ivy
you got copays coinsurance deductibles premiums etc and even with all that you gotta worry abouyt is this doctor/hospital in my network
and is this procedure/medication covered
keen spire
Yep
junior ivy
and how much will be covered, etc
keen spire
fuckin a
steel mauve
i just tough it out and hope i dont die 😉
keen spire
lol
lusty grotto
ayo
junior ivy
im just like hey im sick lemme go to hospital get treated and walk back out and go home
hahaha
keen spire
#baller @steel mauve
lusty grotto
nobody really loves working, until it's working to survive
junior ivy
i like having money
keen spire
yo work can be fun if you're passionate about what you do
junior ivy
i wasnt working for a bit, was on unemployment, so i had lots of time for WoW lol
too much time for WoW tbh
keen spire
^ been there
keen spire
start to feel complacent
steel mauve
ive been out in the mid teens temperature building a house for work
lusty grotto
i gotta tell you
keen spire
yikes
junior ivy
now ive been work + gym every day and i get up at 7am and get home at 830pm and have no time for a life, i dont wanna spend my free time on wow anymore
lusty grotto
that playing after working def feels more rewarding
steel mauve
was 20 degrees F tuesday, about 15 wed 20 yesterday and 30's today
junior ivy
pft.
keen spire
and for sure, Nim. I agree with you for sure
lusty grotto
hey
junior ivy
20 fahrenheit.
lusty grotto
gym is awesome
oblique garnet
Whats that in celcius?
lusty grotto
i hit it 3 days a week
junior ivy
yeah i am loving the gym lol have a persona ltrainer session sunday
to learn how to lift weights
lusty grotto
1 hr after work at least
keen spire
Noice.
steel mauve
-6 late
keen spire
All these prot warrs swole irl too
oblique garnet
And you call that cold?
lusty grotto
im not swole at all LOL
keen spire
Yo I get cold in the low 60's
junior ivy
-6 is like "do i need a winter jacket or will a hoodie suffice?"
keen spire
California boy
oblique garnet
Its -17 atm
lusty grotto
im skinny as fuck
steel mauve
well when you're outside for 8 hours straight
junior ivy
late where are you at
oblique garnet
Finland
junior ivy
ohh
keen spire
DAMN
junior ivy
cool
lusty grotto
jesus christ is it like 8 am there?
oblique garnet
3 am soon
lusty grotto
nice
junior ivy
omg there was a guy from norway in my guild and he raided with us
at 5am his time
lmao
lusty grotto
my friends left today to iceland
keen spire
forever?
lusty grotto
and i couldn't cause i had to visit my family in Puerto Rico
junior ivy
id love to go to puerto rico or iceland 😦
keen spire
^
oblique garnet
Last winter it was nice it got to -40 so if you wanted cold beer just open up window and leave the beer for 2-3minutes there and its ice cold
keen spire
Both would be sick
lusty grotto
shit i'd love to visit all of them
keen spire
That's so fucking funny omg
lusty grotto
perfect @oblique garnet
keen spire
That kind of cold is just.. surreal imo
oblique garnet
Its nice
junior ivy
we get -40 a few times a year here in canada too
you walk outside and like you can feel the mucus in your nasal cavities freeze, its a weird feeling
keen spire
I am legit wearing a jacket and a scarf right now.. and it's 72 controlled indoors
oblique garnet
The only issue i have with winter is that i dont remember the last time i saw sun
junior ivy
cause its the only part of you not covered
lusty grotto
that could be an issue @oblique garnet \
keen spire
I recommend it
oblique garnet
Yeah the sun is up for around 2 hours during winter for 3-4 months or so
keen spire
If you cry in -40 weather, will your tears freeze to your face?
oblique garnet
Yes
junior ivy
yeah
oblique garnet
We would still have to go to school no matter how cold it was
oblique garnet
No
sand egret
bruh
keen spire
^
junior ivy
school gets cancelled here if the roads are so bad buses cant run, but not just cause of cold
sand egret
hence the name
junior ivy
thats like my work lol. it never gets cancelled, they dont care if youre late on storm days but still excpected to show up
junior ivy
im really good at driving through like a foot of snow though lol
i got my learners permit at the beginning of a relaly bad winter when i was 16
keen spire
Just affix a plow to the front of your car
like death race
throw some spikes on it for good measure
oblique garnet
I had a rwd car and its horrible during winters
junior ivy
i dunno what wheel drive my car even is
i dunno anything about cars
its a silver honda civic though
oblique garnet
FWD probably its good for winters
oblique garnet
I sold my car since i rarely use it and maintaining it during the winter is just not worth it
astral crystal
needs more snow
junior ivy
after i cleaned half the windshield lol
oblique garnet
Ye thats your average winter morning and its so annoying
oblique garnet
Id rather walk to a bus station than do that
junior ivy
oblique garnet
Man the snowplow driver didnt like your parking clearly lmao
junior ivy
hahhaa
keen spire
omg lol
junior ivy
yeah i just took the metro to work that day
keen spire
That's insane
lusty grotto
thank god for remote work
oblique garnet
Remote school is also nice
lusty grotto
hell yes
keen spire
This is the deepest snow I’ve ever been in.
lusty grotto
dude that's at least 5 inches more than i've ever been in
oblique garnet
I actually want to move to usa after i graduate
lusty grotto
how long is that
oblique garnet
3 years give or take
lusty grotto
hopefully things will get better here by then
not to get political but raises shield block
hard wedge
Better do something more then just shield block
lusty grotto
honestly though you have a lot of interesting places in EU
oblique garnet
Yeah but the cost of living in finland is not the best
junior ivy
yeha i cant imagine wanting to live in america when you got all of europe
but ive been all over america and its not exciting to me anymore
lol
ive been to like 22 states i think?
and im not even american
oblique garnet
You say theres alot of great things about europe but honestly its not all that great
lusty grotto
truth be told, cost of living in what you see in most media is absolutely absurd
like ny,cali is ridiculous
junior ivy
the good places to live in america have high costs of living too sadly
lusty grotto
oh it goes into that too
steel mauve
california is awful for cost of living
lusty grotto
yeah fuck cali
junior ivy
basically all the desirable cities have high cost of living
😦
id totally live in claifornia tthough..
i loved california when i visited
lusty grotto
shit i love the merge of cultures but the traffic...
junior ivy
yeha it sucks. i loved it though 😦
i also really like vermont and maine, probably cause theyre so much like canada
haha
lusty grotto
i mean that's fine
oblique garnet
There are more jobs for programmers in usa than there are in finland
lusty grotto
same as oregon now
lusty grotto
holy shit it was expensive
junior ivy
colorado seems cool
sand egret
🤔
lusty grotto
yeah colorado is something ive been wanting to visit for a while
and not necesarily for the pot
red rocks call to me
junior ivy
but my reasons for wanting to visit colorado are kinda meaningless ever since october 17th...
sand egret
red rocks is wonderful
supple path
CO's great, of the 5 states I've lived in, definitely my favorite.
sand egret
i've seen many a show there
lusty grotto
i've always wanted to go to a concert there
supple path
And man, there's legal pot, then there's Colorado legal pot - there are 8 dispensaries within a 3 minute walking distance of me, hah.
sand egret
well a bunch of states do now too haha
oblique garnet
Oh damn its still illegal in finland and will probably be for the next 20 years when all of the current government idiots die
junior ivy
yeah but in canada its FEDERALLY legal
we can take it on planes.
we can smoke otuside the airport and then bring it on the plane
no worries about feds ever cracking down on it or anything
the mall near me already has dedicated cannabis smoking areas
lusty grotto
bruh
supple path
Yeah I think the CO policy is "wink wink, nudge nudge, that would be illegal to take on a plane sir, wink wink, and I would be forced to fine you 50 dollars."
junior ivy
it really is amazing
i have such a big collevction right now
of like 8 different strains
cause i keep buying new ones to try
supple path
It's pretty trustworthy, Bladesong - the stuff comes with nutritional info printed on it with ingredients/exact %s, even, heh.
lusty grotto
amsterdam was amazing but i went there like 5 years ago
sand egret
i was being sarcastic lol
junior ivy
its not even technically legal in amsterdam
lusty grotto
so my views are probably skewed
junior ivy
just tolerated and decriminalized
sand egret
it's legal here too
sand egret
lived in Boulder for years 😃
supple path
Ah, Boulder, where it's illegal to not be high.
sand egret
yarp
lusty grotto
everyone that is against pot i always say... have you ever been stressed that you cannot sleep? try pot. and they always end up converted.
supple path
Which makes tripping over the drum circles a sincere danger of course.
lusty grotto
wait isn't red rocks in boulder?
junior ivy