hold up, run that back
#protection
sand egret
nuuuu
daring marlin
thankfully DC won't be such a big deal in 8.1
sand egret
although I guess a DC chest would be an upgrade for me...just an awkward one
daring marlin
and I can just wear all my 385s
sand egret
I'm just looking forward to more traits to stack haha
sick sentinel
looking for 8.1 so we dont have to look for one specific trait
just taking high ilvl ones from raiding and move on
lusty grotto
chef nimchip wishes you all DC shoulders from emmisary
daring marlin
rofl
sand egret
yeah, i'd rather get a piece and be like "ohh what trait setup does this have....?" instead of "please have DC...."
sick sentinel
What's today's emissary for horde?
sand egret
I'm in the top 5 or something now I think, so not too far off haha
gotta take that #1 exclusively pugging
sand egret
haha I respectfully couldn't disagree more
M+ is literally the only reason I play WoW now
dusk locust
same
sand egret
woo!
dusk locust
m+ is the vast majority of my focus
sick sentinel
But I'm trying to gun for top 100 in region and top 10 for tanks in server
sand egret
you got that shit
sick sentinel
Yeah was top 8 prot war in server in legion before empowered season
sand egret
also, anyone else end up watching that Korean warrior's video like multiple times? Dude is a fucking G.
sand egret
the damage control was like woah...
sick sentinel
Also he proved aside from prots being God's that sporepods aren't shit lol
sand egret
lol haha true dat
sick sentinel
Now to see everyone now farm UR +10 for both trinkets lol
sick sentinel
If u can't respect that man, get outta my face
sand egret
and to top it off, he got that transmog swag on point
sick sentinel
And he beat it in fucking time
sand egret
yea..... looks at my last WM run
sick sentinel
Lol
strong forum
I got 370 spore pods, 130k healing until I died to 20 stacks on the dungeneer dummy
Dunno how to feel about it
sand egret
I'd want to mess around with it, do you know what the approx proc rate is?
strong forum
It's random AF, sometimes you get back to back
Sometimes you don't get it for 30sec+
I don't think it's worth it
Howler seems stronger for the dmg alone
sand egret
if its a PPM rate, I could see it having value in M+ actually
due to how pulls work
if its flat % then prob less so
strong forum
I will try to meddle with it this week when I push to 1.3k score
To see if it's any good
Gotta get my top 50 World back
sand egret
if it's a ppm thing then based on pull cadence you should see it more reliably in pulls, could be nice to smooth over the initial burst or what not.
strong forum
I'm just surprised that this dude is going full defensive build with bandage and versa sockets
Koreans and their crazy starts
bronze lance
crazy that somehow becomes meta every time
strong forum
Idk if that would be meta, dmg is important
dry apex
Shoud i replace my blockades with a 370 Vanquished Tendril of G'huun?
strong forum
No psycho, the trinket is garbage
dry apex
okay thx
frosty wedge
this DK has a 2270 IO score, rofl
bronze lance
lol for a second i thought you were being an asshole
frosty wedge
I didn't play much toward the end of legion
strong forum
Crazy dropluck as well
395 xalzaiz and 390 weapon with socket and leech
Whilst I haven't seen xalzaiz even drop
frosty wedge
his only nonw arforged or titanforged piecs are azerite
bronze lance
oh he runs with gingi, isnt that methods hunter?
bronze lance
i dunno i would imagine its alot easier to get keys like that when you can use a stream and get 50 +10 quickly
strong forum
All of their group besides the rogue
bronze lance
and then push your key after you are fully decked out
strong forum
All of their group besides the rogue
They don't do viewer keys
They just push from the beginning
bronze lance
well for me, i dont think i would have the patients to do anything that high anyways
frosty wedge
I mean... they're timing 19s
strong forum
The +2 siege 18 yesterday
strong forum
They are playing to be the very best
So it's not surprising
If its not them it's someone else
Yknow
There will always be someone at the top, and as of late those decide to stream as well
frosty wedge
yeah
this is crazy - they're on the last pull before the final boss in UR
and they're only like 6 mins over, and only 2 deaths
oh wait nm
they're under time
lol
it'll be close
strong forum
Thing is as well, drjay for example has 10-12k dungeons played in bfa and beta
Lepan has probably done several thousands aswell
Practice makes perfect
frosty wedge
omg, it was an Ur 19 - they missed by 16s
lusty grotto
gotta wonder if at some point they just become flat out bored
strong forum
Nah, they are playing to be the best
Jay has been streaming 14hrs a day for 1 year straight now
That's determination
lusty grotto
10k dungeons and the expansion is barely 3 months old
strong forum
They don't get bored, that's what amazes me
strong forum
Na not yet
lusty grotto
i mean look at it this way: arena is only a blizzard thing
when you look at other e-sports
there are tourneys and venues all over
strong forum
Well Arena had that aswell
lusty grotto
there's a lot more incentive to keep being active
strong forum
There will be
If m+ keeps getting more numbers there has to be
But blizz is still figuring out how to do it
lusty grotto
sure, unless blizzard has it locked somehow
strong forum
But yeah blizzcon is just a showcase since keys will only be 13s
Even I could play that
lusty grotto
no i mean
locked to only run their own tournaments and not any other interested party
strong forum
Currently
Since if they are doing it like Arena with the point system to get into blizzcon instead of 1 global tournament but many little ones
It's all going to be from blizz
frosty wedge
yeah it's 13s set at ilvl 370 for blizzcon
strong forum
Gonna be a meme show
lusty grotto
like what if dota2 was only ran through the International/majors and there weren't any other tournaments like ESL/Epicenter and so on
frosty wedge
I'll be super surprised if there are even deaths
strong forum
Yeah but we're talking blizz
lusty grotto
just a similar example
lusty grotto
that's what i mean
strong forum
There are no unofficial tournaments on any blizzard game
lusty grotto
it would be a good move to do a Major-style quarterly tourney besides the big one
strong forum
Make it just like arena
They have like 50
Make the teams get points and after a certain threshold they are invited to prelims for blizzcon
lusty grotto
that being said i don't think an Overwatch League style would be a good move
yeah that sounds like what i'm saying
strong forum
Ye
Maybe 2 per 8.X patch
Or 1
Per major patch basically
That'd be neat
And give incentive and actually people could start making a living off of it
As soon as there's enough money in it, it will rise in popularity and competition
Cuz right now players do it out of their own pocket or streaming
If there was more money involved more people could go for it
Same with teams for wow, there's practically only very few teams sponsored because there is little to be gained, and method is going all fucking in
spare hinge
hmm... thunder clap have low threat generation?
somehow i lose few aggro that im do spamming aoe
open bluff
if you're using avatar with thunderclap, you're not TCing enough
if you're not using avatar with TC in aoe, do it
(you should be using avatar more or less on cooldown regardless, even single target)
spare hinge
ok
prisma crane
I feel like you wrote that backwards Ava
but the point is the same, avatar more or less on CD, but can save it for particularly heavy aoe areas
and tclap is a rotational ability, just used every other global during Avatar when talented how you should be talented
crystal wadi
Lads I'm feeling a bit disillusioned. What are the odds of blood DK still being way better than prot warriors come 8.1?
tired berry
i know they're wanted for utility/grips/brez in m+ especially and just general survivability, how does their damage compare to ours currently? legitimately asking as i just don't know
ember pilot
they have good aoe dmg with bonestorm
tired berry
avatar thunderclap combo with unstoppable force nets pretty decent numbers anyway but i don't have much experience wtih bdk
spare hinge
guess warrior need new abi of brez and something like call lighting to strike at corpse
ember pilot
inspiring presence and mass spellreflect, that would be rly nice utility for prot warri
crystal wadi
haha "revitalising shout - yell at target dead ally so hard their spirit flies back into their body, ressing them on 20% health and mana"
strong forum
Bdk will still be very strong in m+ but not as "immortal during memestorm"
Prot will be on par with Monks in m+ I reckon
If not stronger
Prob stronger
We will be top 3 in raid and m+
crystal wadi
What makes you say that? Like the IP buff is nice but is it really enough to warrant that sort of optimism?
ember pilot
nah i dont think so
strong forum
Kek it's huge, we can block ranged attacks aswell opposed to now
I use IP roughly 100-160 times in a dungeon
That's alot of globals that could be used to dps / rage gain
ember pilot
memes are to strong on prot warri, thats not gonna change
strong forum
Prot is gonna be top tier tank
dense flame
just get sco to say prot is good 4Head
ember arrow
In relevant ccontent theyll destroy u
strong forum
Compared to now
ember arrow
Like any other tank
prisma crane
i understand that, what i'm saying is that we're better off, but still going to rank about the same relative other tanks
strong forum
Nah, we didn't midigate shit from ranged attacks and got hit face on with 100k "shoot" in KR
We can then reduce it to below 10k
With IP + critblock
If that ain't huge idk what is
ember arrow
Surv was not the reason to not take prot
crystal wadi
Wait so prot isn't squishier than other tanks in m+?
ember arrow
Yes
strong forum
No
strong forum
Never seen anybody ever do that
ember arrow
Thats not much an argument
ember arrow
Do u do +18s?
strong forum
Do you
strong forum
Yeah, I'm watching ton of lepan and jay
ember arrow
Ok
dense flame
I think in nomeratur defense. The ability to block something that others have to kite is pretty huge. That opens up the ability to kite later while your shit is recharging
almost similar to how you tank with a DH
except you can face tank longer
strong forum
Which results in faster kill times
I'm not saying we are stronger than bdk by no means
But much stronger than we are right now
Much stronger
ember arrow
Not just bdk
strong forum
On par with monk atleast
Since monk has no utility besides ring
And on par with pally prob aswell
strong forum
I'd say so
sand egret
@digital arrow this is why you don't say that cursed phrase.
ember arrow
Blocking spells<blocking autos?
strong forum
Can you block spells all day?
ember arrow
Self heal<no self heal?
ember arrow
Nope
strong forum
Fucking braindead
ember arrow
Self heal actually frees up healer
dense flame
I mean prot warr doesn't need that crap. We are literally a face tank.
strong forum
Yeah so does midigation
ember arrow
Face tanking the floor
sand egret
it's like Beetlejuice
ember arrow
Do i need to?
digital arrow
LOL
sand egret
you can't say the phrase
digital arrow
dammit, cursed phrase indeed
everyone look away, ark of the covenant has been opened
sand egret
๐
strong forum
Pretty much
ember arrow
I dont play ele shaman but i see their state
strong forum
All everybody ever brings is "no self-healing"
ember arrow
Oh
strong forum
So bdk vs prot is bound to be a retarded discussion
Especially if you have either main try to talk to the other
ember arrow
No displacement either.
strong forum
It just doesn't work out
ember arrow
Players that push should pick the best class
strong forum
My god I never said that prot is better and acknowledge that we have very little utility
ember arrow
Maining smt limits urself
strong forum
Okay
Cool
I'm limited
So what's your deal now
I never said we are insane or going to push WF keys
All im saying is we will be top 3 in raiding and m+
IMPLYING rank 3 is also possible not rank 1
steel mauve
I find ERHPS to be more important than just HPS imo
strong forum
HPs is a stupid metric, but the argument self healing is better than not taking much at all is retarded and close minded ( or whatever the proper term is)
In dungeons I have hardly to get healed
ember arrow
But which keys
strong forum
It's not 18s but 13s is still better than average
strong forum
After that it starts to get a little different
15 is possible with every combination
astral crystal
what's your io looking like bois?
strong forum
Mine is shitty 1185,will push 1300 this week maybe 1400
Have been lazy couple last weeks
astral crystal
this week's pretty easy i think
strong forum
Yeah it is
cinder nova
Okay so
crystal wadi
measly 663 ๐ฆ
strong forum
WF 20 will happen this week if it didn't already
crystal wadi
it's happened but not in time
strong forum
Talking in time
cinder nova
Tank death of a result of DTPS exceeding HTPS by a portrayed still of time such that the player dies.
All the self healing in the world will not stop a 1 shot
But mitigation may
ember arrow
Bdk can talent into pty much not being able to oneshot
strong forum
I can tank tree boss in waycrest to 54 stacks
ember arrow
Offtank fetid
cinder nova
Damage smoothing is what prevents spikes because spikes are the leading cause of tank death.
cinder nova
It's why monks are so powerful
strong forum
In raiding ye
ember arrow
Tree dude has no abilitirs
cinder nova
Because their smoothing and HP make them really sturdy
crystal wadi
That seems... excessive. Did you test that?
strong forum
But Hits a fuck ton
I did it
Multiple times
On tyra I drop stacks around 30 in fire
On fort I can go to 50 without fire
ember arrow
Without tyranical it gets to 50
strong forum
And just ignore all mechanics
ember arrow
Yikes dps
cinder nova
BDK is only good because it can survive well and has raid utility. Because their healing helps counteract recent damage, they have decent survival. DH does the same thing, but worse so nobody talks about them.
strong forum
Can thank my shitty guild mates for that :D
I don't have 30k+ dps opener people
Dh is giga spiky
cinder nova
Because they suck at smoothing.
DK is spikes too, they just gave a way more immediate response to stubble the after effects
strong forum
If I had a solid group I would prob be like 1500 score but I'm lazy AF
So far I only have healer and 1 dps, for like the entire expac
cinder nova
Warrior can be God mode smoothing, but plenty of mechanics circumvent our strengths that this tier feels like shit
cinder nova
Yeah but m Zul dot is oof
strong forum
Yeah im not tanking zul
cinder nova
Vectis is all Magic
strong forum
Fuck that
frosty wedge
yeah I have one group that I do a smooth solid 10 with everyw eek
strong forum
Vectis is fairly chill aswell
strong forum
Yeah fuck pugging
cinder nova
He's chill, but your best abilities as a warrior are sidelined
strong forum
I ain't inviting dps that's not 1300 or higher
frosty wedge
I pugged an ML 11 last night and had a 383 warrior backing into extra packs the whole time
frosty wedge
watching Lepan do a FH +20 atm
cinder nova
Monk healers are just great
ember arrow
Because theyre tank healers
strong forum
Monks are insane
strong forum
I'm running with disc and it's chill aswell
frosty wedge
monk is a tank healer with good group healing
strong forum
Monk rerolled to disc cuz monk is boring he wants to dps
frosty wedge
pallies can heal 2-4 targets fine
2-3*
but if the whole group is taking dmg they're fucked
lavish oracle
I have a friend who plays hpal and I don't know if it's just that he's good at the game or if hpal is in a better spot than people say it is, but he kills meters
strong forum
It depends on players
strong forum
Zmok does 18s on his pally
frosty wedge
sure, and people do 18s on warrior - but it's way fking easier on a DK
same thing with healers
frosty wedge
yeah, same with Bowlby, 17s, no 18s
strong forum
Told ya
I checked out Travex couple times, lucky bitch with his shoulders
Got 385 DC shoulders from cache in week 2 or smth
prisma crane
@little rain you gonna take that? ๐
yea he also got a baller shield real early
and i think a trinket and something else
he's been hardcore into M+ since mid-late legion it seems
cool dude though
strong forum
I mean my gear isn't bad either, but still got 370 DC shoulders
sand egret
I used to think HPals weren't super great, but then I realized it's just that my IRL buddy is not exactly the best healer haha
strong forum
Yeah, hpal is super player dependant
frosty wedge
Lepan's gear luck is crazy - but he does run a shitload of dungeons, lol
sand egret
and HPal doesn't seem like a good class for a person who can panic easily
but I also know next to nothing about that class
strong forum
His weapon and trinket are from mythrax though mike
And that is insanely lucky
390 weapon with socket and leech from raid
That is the definition of luck
sand egret
it's probably solid. I just have a very skewed experience with an HPal
frosty wedge
yeah i know nomer
lusty grotto
blade carry my hpal for gear and i'll show you
sand egret
can't if you're one of those Horde bois ๐
lusty grotto
HISS
strong forum
HISS at horde
lusty grotto
my hpal is a beautiful and unique blood elf
sand egret
haha
reef fulcrum
I was doing +10 yesterday and as soon as I pulled the mobs after the first boss were taking 60%+ of my health. I have no clue why and don't have logs. Does anyone know why?
King's rest
reef fulcrum
The only one I'm missing in +10
frosty wedge
oh
reef fulcrum
Yeah
frosty wedge
I'm so dumb
ember arrow
Even i know that xd
reef fulcrum
I know the bleed effect hurts
reef fulcrum
But the one I'm referring to is burst dmg
sand egret
the triple pack with the caster that channels, one of them has a nasty bleed
reef fulcrum
Probably that one
sand egret
the mass pack with the one big guy can get hairy if you end up getting caught in a few shadow whirls. Also bursting on those
reef fulcrum
My healer is frustrated with KR already haha
sand egret
other than that there's the shadowbolt chick which can be SR'd
sand egret
tbh other than the Zerker bleed, we do really well in that place imho
ember arrow
Wait
reef fulcrum
I was kitting when I had the bleed effect
sand egret
because I want free Str?
reef fulcrum
Idk, haven't done kr many times
little rain
XD @prisma crane Yea prolly :o I got pretty lucky 1st 2 weeks lol
sand egret
well in that mini-boss room, that shoot chick can suck and you can CC the bleeder in the triple pack to make it a lot easier since one of them just does his own thing and channels
ember arrow
Los her
prisma crane
@little rain โค keep doin gods work with prot lol
sand egret
but overall, just keep up block on that place
prisma crane
one day we'll be serious MDI competition
little rain
^_^
subtle citrus
has anyone tried to prot in pvp?
sand egret
if you have a boss arms/ret with you
it's so much fun
Bodyguard is my fav PvP talent
little rain
I'd argue the only place you can consider prot in pvp is Eye of the Storm
reef fulcrum
Thank you guys
little rain
Outside of that its a huge meme not worht
frosty wedge
lepan's group about to get that WF +20 it looks lke
last boss in FH20 with like 4 mins to spare
sand egret
if you have a few friends on coms in a bg's you'll have a lot of fun haha
just taking on like 6 people is hilarious
subtle citrus
dawg prot channel is just civilized gents meanwhile the other 2 is apes
uneven mason
Go into fury and get buried in linked sims and epeen stroking
come to prot and be told your spec sucks while you're crushing DPS charts like its Orange Soda
sand egret
this is the only channel I look at tbh
frosty wedge
same
little rain
Fury is fking funnn, been climbing in 2s bout 2300 atm
frosty wedge
yep, WF +20 just happened
crystal wadi
With almost 2 minutes to spare, too? That was insane
I swear Ludwig was punching the tank for about 130k
candid vine
In the tournament?
candid vine
What server? The highest waycrest I can find is +16
sand egret
what a casual
primal crypt
NA anything LUL
primal crypt
๐
ember arrow
must play 200IQ classes like warrior or it wont count
neon tangle
worthy dagger
I did the same, i had a prot then leveled a bdk and did couple m+s, was too easy so i gave up on my bdk and went back to my prot because im a masochist
limber tulip
@worthy dagger u mad?
worthy dagger
nah of course not, why would i be
worthy dagger
@digital arrow so you know what i mean
digital arrow
i honestly like it
wouldnt be playing wow again if i wasnt so invested in my class
strong forum
Yeah im legit scared of playing bdk cuz I might like it too much cuz shits ez
worthy dagger
go yolo on the bonestorm and youre good
strong forum
Memestorm
strong forum
If I can do motherlode 14 with a 357 disc you can prob tank 15s at 350 as BDK
15% per sec ain't much tbh
Memestorm will help, but you wont be immortal anymore
ember arrow
@strong forum mandl did a +10 in antorus gear week 1
digital arrow
lol memestorm
worthy dagger
its ok guys we got TC
sand egret
i refer Groanstorm
strong forum
If you weren't 340 at m+ week 1 you didn't play the game
sand egret
cuz that's what I do whenever that shit is brought up
ember arrow
@strong forum he did it to show it can be done and ilvl is irrelevant
worthy dagger
to an extent
strong forum
Well yeah cuz I'm not provided with information
Only that he did it
Ofc my initial reaction is that it's retarded
So may I ask how he did it, if that's what you want to tell me
primal crypt
LUL
worthy dagger
its easier to just stick with the "retarded" Kappa
limber tulip
Looo
strong forum
Rip
strong forum
Topkek
limber tulip
Ok bye guys
ember arrow
macro isnt online, who else can do this
strong forum
A bot
limber tulip
We arenโt tho
strong forum
I'd say
ember arrow
bdk isnt self sufficient
strong forum
Kek
ember arrow
you can close oyur ears
strong forum
Well Idk man, 800 score I don't think I want to trust you on that
astral crystal
i will plug them with bonestorm, deathstrike, blood drinker, and vampiric blood tyvm
red thirst if i'm feeling froggy and want to have VB up even faster
Kappa
strong forum
Even worse
ember arrow
go to acherus
ask
how do i solo m+ bosses
then get the same answer i gave
bonestorm and BD dont heal shit vs a boss though
worthy dagger
people dont usually wipe on bosses, they wipe on mob pulls
drowsy relic
Yo in M+ is there any benefit in taking Devastator? (1223231)
worthy dagger
no
drowsy relic
I think the 3rd highest io warrior runs it
worthy dagger
no way, booming is too good
or id say its the least worse
jk its actually good, 40 rage + damage is always great
strong forum
Devastator is only good if you want to cheese ST logs in raids
That's about it
And even then its not dominant
drowsy relic
He seems to be running it, I was just curious
Im not sure what the benefit is though
drowsy relic
He's been using it for a few weeks
dull pilot
i run dev in +10 keys i like it
strong forum
monkaS
primal crypt
...
strong forum
How your opener then, get hit for a few globals?
primal crypt
Deva wat
strong forum
Without midigation
primal crypt
Rest in rip
strong forum
This
ember arrow
do things hurt in +10s?
strong forum
No
dull pilot
na
ember arrow
well
strong forum
But still
dull pilot
do 10s easey
ember arrow
then it doesnt matter
drowsy relic
He does more damage, thats the only benefit right?
ember arrow
thats all the benefit you need
drowsy relic
Does it have anything to do with his traits?
ember arrow
if surv isnt a concern
uneven mason
BV is a much bigger help in M+ overall, but on Tyrannical weeks I can see dev being a bit oomphier
frosty wedge
the Dk asking if 10's hurt >< lol
strong forum
He wasn't serious about it
frosty wedge
I know ๐
strong forum
He asked to prove a point
uneven mason
M+ only hurt if you've got facepulling DPS who don't let you control the pull
ember arrow
who is a dk
frosty wedge
I just like giving him shit, lol
frosty wedge
ah
ember arrow
correct
strong forum
Should legit rename to banterboi
sand egret
@digital arrow knows it
strong forum
Topkek
worthy dagger
Lepan have over 10k hps, bdks not self sufficient
ember arrow
10k is low
dull pilot
was in a +7 helping a alt friend lol and a druid healer said to me my healing shit i need to delete my char
dull pilot
he rage quit we did it in time 4 man no healer
frosty wedge
lol shadow of zul
ember arrow
was at start i think
strong forum
In memestorm bdk has over 35k+ hps
ember arrow
@strong forum
strong forum
Yup
ember arrow
hps is fun though, but not a good metric
strong forum
Yeah it doesn't tell shit
digital arrow
@sand egret dare i? with great power comes great responsibility
ember arrow
it feels good, one of few things in bfa that does
strong forum
Just like monk HPs can't be compared to disc HPs
digital arrow
cursed phrase must be used with caution
strong forum
The screenshot looks like atal dazar in front of priestess @ember arrow with 44khps
sand egret
haha nooo
ember arrow
its zul raid
strong forum
Ah
sand egret
the damage has already been done ๐
jaunty aspen
quick question got equipped 365 adulation enforcer weapon but just now got the weapon from fetid devourer in 380 so do i equip or keep other cause of secondaries=?
ember arrow
ilvl on weapon is alot of dps
ruby sapphire
and str
outer dew
secondaries for tanks are usually fairly close
you get more secondaries off that 15 ilvl too
lol
jaunty aspen
just makin sure
strong forum
Ye
limber tulip
6k ehrps
drowsy relic
Is prot warrior stuck to one talent set to be efficient?
are there any other solid builds with prot?
limber wigeon
Yeah, ravager build is really the only other option
sick sentinel
yikes
ivory barn
a ravager build exists now? kappa
mystic ember
Not really a build, changing 1 talent.
lusty grotto
lol @primal crypt
we trollin it now
but yes @drowsy relic one talent set minus tier2/5 which are optional
signal rune
i play devastator fight me
lusty grotto
get out
signal rune
BV is better, but Dev isn't worse.
lusty grotto
sand egret
can't fight the guy, he's got all those free GCD's to retaliate
lusty grotto
dev IS worse
signal rune
Not at level 108
lusty grotto
shit, i've been had
sand egret
war mode + morale killer + bv says otherwise
daring patrol
troll'd
lusty grotto
rip in pepperoni me
signal rune
Without meme-ing, I'd probably still play it at max level.
sand egret
gl!
signal rune
When 8.1 hits i think
lusty grotto
๐คท you pay for your sub so that's on you ๐
i do miss deva though
devastating since tbc argh
hoping it becomes relevant again soon
wraith hemlock
Since my haste was stupidly high
wraith hemlock
That's why it is shitte now...
signal rune
be me
don't read tooltips
primal crypt
Kador been had
lusty grotto
i'm so sorry for your loss
uneven mason
Devastator - the little talent that could.
sand egret
1/3 times you'll be happy
uneven mason
*nt
uneven mason
Yeah primary issue with Devastator RPS
sand egret
rage per second
lusty grotto
rage per second
uneven mason
is the fact that TC and Rev already give you SS resets on those GCDs
wraith hemlock
ah
topaz ember
You can't argue with a prot warrior not min maxing b/c if they wanted to min max they would be playing anohter tank class
uneven mason
it loses a lot of oomph
wraith hemlock
the other option would be using a swing timer (Which I did back in legion)
sand egret
please no swing timers
lusty grotto
at some point deva didn't require a swing timer
wraith hemlock
it helps, but not optimal unless you are used to it
sand egret
please not again
uneven mason
Well the difference between using the perscribed talents and not is you're either alive (with talents) or dead (with whatever fucking build your grandmother told you to use)
uneven mason
NEVERSURRENDER< SOUNDS TANKY TO ME JIMMY
lusty grotto
can you link her build?
uneven mason
NOW GO PRECHEW MY FOOD
signal rune
eww
sand egret
100% seems like a big number
uneven mason
Be grandma, be BrM
topaz ember
I play never surrender and ask my healers to never put me above 20% hp. Work like a charm
lusty grotto
shots fired
signal rune
So back to that Ravager build.
lusty grotto
rofl
wraith hemlock
who tf uses ravager?
sand egret
Pick Ravager to level 4 then go Stats
uneven mason
@topaz ember If you're using NS chances are your healers have no choice but to leave you sub 20%
no matter how hard they try
topaz ember
The rotation for ravager build is easy you rush in shield block throw down ravager pop Avatar then die
wraith hemlock
nay nay, you want intellect. you are a warrior, you are already strong so you need intellect to make wise decisions
like picking a different tank
uneven mason
well tbh
lusty grotto
this is a good rotation Orange
wraith hemlock
you will die 3 secs after ravager
signal rune
Ravager is Bonestorm confirmed
uneven mason
^^
wraith hemlock
maybe 4 if you are lucky
uneven mason
Ravager + Shield block = bad luck protection on roids, the boss will crushing blow you
sand egret
best part about ravager is all the time you get to contemplate life as you wait for your CDs to come back up.
topaz ember
What if instead of a blade we threw down a bone and it healed us everytime it hit somthing
sand egret
ya just don't get that anymore
uneven mason
All those "not Demoralized" bosses
topaz ember
We could call it boneweather
wraith hemlock
Man, I hate how our build atm is like "use Demo shout on cd, keep it up as long as you can then die"
good things they are nerfing DC
lusty grotto
you still have to maintain demo shout after the nerf, dc will still help
uneven mason
"then die"
I Mean
I'm not really feeling like I'm going to die unless I flipperhand and pull a BrM and just not hit something when I'm being hit
sand egret
i die a lot, but me dying is most definitely not that the mob wasn't DC'd haha
uneven mason
pressing keys = high skillcap
topaz ember
our current rotation is Rush in shield block demo shout avatar smash that Thunder clap shield block start getting worried about shield running out before the tank swap sweating gets taunted off and live another day
lusty grotto
usually when i maintain demo shout up, i auto run off the cliff in shrine of storms
sand egret
it's 90% me overlapping SB
the other 10% is I dropped a roach on me pants and that shit is burning
uneven mason
you avatar after charge
signal plover
Yeah I pretty much know exactly when I'm gonna be fuckered because I will have no coolie to cover a SB gap and then I call for an external and all is gud
daring patrol
i only die if I pull too much or I panic and waste block if last stand is up/boss is casting
uneven mason
Basically
I find it hilarous that I tank the majority of uptime on Ghuun for my guild
still take less damage than the paladin
lusty grotto
i usually die when i hit my face with the keyboard, cannot confirm if i fell asleep or drunk
topaz ember
yea but what about healing required i know pallies have some self heals
uneven mason
since he just taunts so he can run out the explosive (only gets to 3 stacks) I take 5-6stacks...then reflect the 4th so we can stackup
daring patrol
3x azerite veins, 3x impassive visage @topaz ember
uneven mason
^^
lusty grotto
oof
signal plover
We're competitive on external healing required
uneven mason
AKA - how to beat Paladins on self healing
topaz ember
@daring patrol i see we have a true gentlemen
sand egret
oh my god if I had 3x AV and IV
sick sentinel
victory rush spam was fun last week
uneven mason
lol
sick sentinel
also leach is fun
uneven mason
yeah explosive week was fun
lusty grotto
just pluggin this one in, in case any of you haven't seen it
daring patrol
i have 2 AV 3 IV when i swap some traits around, shits fun
lusty grotto
sick sentinel
4.40% leach and 5.30% with bloodsport
signal rune
does he play deva
lusty grotto
good question
uneven mason
But paladin heal so much moar than warrior??? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FGWZhtr71zL6mND2#fight=last&type=healing
sick sentinel
@signal rune no
uneven mason
if he didn't LOH at the end, I would've beat him :p
sick sentinel
in the vid he popped demo shout and got 40 rage ๐
lusty grotto
look at that bootyclappin though
i'm always erect when i see that video i'm not gonna lie
sand egret
๐
lusty grotto
uhh yeah one sec
signal rune
he dies at 29:28
sand egret
amateur
signal rune
but yeah warrior clearly needs a buff omegalul
signal rune
Rickrolled.
sick sentinel
I fucking called it
lusty grotto
i couldn't resist
signal rune
whats his armory
sick sentinel
340 DC piece
lusty grotto
feelsbadman
sand egret
look at that swagmog
sick sentinel
Running ruinous bolt instead of callus reprisal
sand egret
never compare yourself to the Koreans, is what
daring patrol
him doing goliath like that without clearing stacks is pretty impressive to me
lusty grotto
i mean usually it's better to do goliath without clearing too much, cause people are retarded on ghosts
signal rune
spriests are fine, just no utility
lusty grotto
OH HEY GUYS IM ROOTED, RIP ME
signal rune
so many autists in that discord
sand egret
i'm not saying they're bad, more like that one was pretty G
sick sentinel
look at the screenshot I posted
that is one IV
(even though I posted it for the leach)
signal rune
he still takes a lot of damage, just look close
there is clearly a chink in that armor
sorry
digital arrow
sorry what is goliath
signal rune
back to leveling
sand egret
big tree guy
sand egret
i clear all my stacks when I see the healer rooted
cuz i'm an independent warrior and I dont need no healer
signal rune
main VDH
see 8 stacks
run for it
lusty grotto
lol
signal rune
And this is +9 and up.
digital arrow
B o o s t
native trellis
what makes devastator such a bad talent choice?
signal rune
But.
The dps.
Easy 10% of total damage done. And it's on par with rage generation according to the guide.
lusty grotto
demo provides a lot more damage boos
native trellis
my thing is that i hate using devastate as a filler
plus my bindings are full without devastate
signal rune
my thing is that my actionbar is full enough ๐ฉ
native trellis
lol pretty much, but id like to use booming voice cause 40 rage, and on a 45 second cd
uneven mason
๐คข
plain ice
guys how is blood dk vs prot warrior?
sick sentinel
uneven mason
@plain ice Prot requires more than 7 braincells to play
sick sentinel
prot for raids, bdk for m+
plain ice
i only have 4. will go blood
i'm just trollface.jpg - just got finished reading the discussion from earlier
lusty grotto
@native trellis you're nerfing yourself heavily
besides we barely use devastate as it is
sick sentinel
it is actually better to have booming voice and never use devastate once
than to use devastator
native trellis
ok
lusty grotto
use the handy 1, 2, 3,4,5, then shift + 1,2,3,4,5, then ctrl+ 1,2,3,4,5, then q, e, z x, c nimchip guide to bindings
sick sentinel
lol devastate lol
native trellis
prot rend too op
sick sentinel
revenge