protection

[thin mortar]

cant you just mog the shield first then the 1h? i'm sure you can mix/match those

[signal plover]

Like I love the blue hidden skin but the mace for that looks like shit

The artifact is tied to the MH mog

In beta they were separate and it was dope

[thin mortar]

I normally run the MoP CM and the legion CM combo so I could be remembering beta. idk

[signal plover]

Like u could get the back sheathe MH axe with the blue hidden shield

But now u have to pick the actual MH and the shield auto overrides any other shield mog u have there.

[thin mortar]

that's lame

[signal plover]

Indeed

[primal crypt]

I didnt get a 385 DC :(

[sick sentinel]

😦

[primal crypt]

I hate this game

It doesnt give me what i want

[zinc mauve]

I hope I get lucky. Gonna open mine when I get back

I already have a DC shoulder, hoping for a better chest piece

[sick sentinel]

how cool would it look to wear 2hand and a shield?

[primal crypt]

Not cool

Shield and offshield

Thats what we're going for

[zinc mauve]

Apex defense

[sick sentinel]

dual wielding shields looks better but that's even less possible

how would the Shield Slam animation look with 2 shields

[signal plover]

Double punch

[thin mortar]

like raging blow

[sick sentinel]

shield charge.

[primal crypt]

Ez

See

[sick sentinel]

like a body slam

[primal crypt]

Everyone knows

[signal plover]

It's the class fantasy

[supple path]

In a just world you'd slam your enemy's head between both shields.

[thin mortar]

#Shieldstorm!

there's a thought, remove dragons roar for bladestorm. lol

[sick sentinel]

in a world where warrior's only friend is his shield(s).

[primal crypt]

Ravager is a good skill!

Wait...mt

[thin mortar]

I've always liked ravager, but AM is life

[signal plover]

I can see ur PMing 80% of the prot warr playerbase

[primal crypt]

LUL

[signal plover]

(it's prolly not that high)

[primal crypt]

(It probably is)

[vagrant cape]

"Devastate. Verb:
-destroy or ruin (something).

synonyms: destroy, ruin, wreck, lay waste, ravage, demolish, raze (to the ground), level, flatten;

-cause (someone) severe and overwhelming shock or grief."

It doesn't do the first one, but I feel overwhelming grief whenever I have to press it, so I guess the name fits.

[thin mortar]

oof. so true

[cold owl]

You all think 45 ilvls is enough to forgo DC. New traits are iron fortress and shield slam.

Mythic plus focus

[frosty wedge]

nope

[tulip pond]

Is the IP tracking WA not working, I can't seem to import it?

Says "Error decompressing: Unknown compression method (64)"

Nvm, there was an update for WA so that fixed it

[mild olive]

hey guys, i have one question: stat priority is haste>versa/mastery. With Into the fray level 15 talent(with 4 -5 stacks) my haste is over versa/mastery. is that the perfect situation?, or do i need to have %haste>versa/mastery with any stacks?

[grim prism]

You alwauys want more haste

It doesnt matter how much you have

[tardy wharf]

Haste is life

[grim prism]

You dont hit a softcap until like 160%, which you will obviously not be attaining

Disregarding lust et al

[fierce juniper]

@mild olive Not sure if this is what you're thinking, but the stat priority doesn't tell you that you want to have more Haste than Vers, more Vers than Mastery, etc, it tells you what stats are best essentially.
There's no specific ratio of stats that you want.

[tardy wharf]

Str > all other stats anyways

[sick sentinel]

except when in this case

where I keep the 365 one (right? )

[grim prism]

No

Well shit

Idk maybe

[dark junco]

Tbh i’d keep the 365

40 haste > 13 str

[grim prism]

39 haste > 4 mast, 13 str, 24 stam, and 17 armor tho?

[dark junco]

Yup

[grim prism]

Its going to be imperceptibly close either way tbh

[primal crypt]

I would take the 37p

370*

[dark junco]

Well haste ramps up fast

[grim prism]

I would too

[primal crypt]

More ilvl

And it makes my OCD feel better

[grim prism]

The guide does explicitly say to stack ilvl on armor pieces /shrug

[steel mauve]

370 on legs, ilvl beats basically any thing on high budget items

[grim prism]

+1 for 370

[primal crypt]

+1

[thin mortar]

I'm pretty sure that sockets forgoes visible ilvl. I say the 365 is better for sure

[steel mauve]

And its pretty close to beating any thing on all armor pieces

[thin mortar]

still close however

[junior ivy]

i vote 370

[grim prism]

Again, it will be imperceptibly close regardless of what you pick

[junior ivy]

i love ilvl

[dark junco]

But for real, I’d craft the legs from BS @sick sentinel

[sick sentinel]

I am eng/alch

[dark junco]

Crafted 6 pairs atm, no big haste yet. No socket either.

[prisma crane]

i'd go with the 365

[grim prism]

Hey me too

[dark junco]

Yeah gotta level alch for raiding

[grim prism]

The 370 has more total stat budget even with the socket on it, for the record

[dark junco]

Probably

[junior ivy]

waitt krotos says 365

now i say 365 lol

[grim prism]

Not probably

Definitely

[junior ivy]

my asnwer is changed

[grim prism]

Numbers dont lie

[steel mauve]

On legs a socket wont beat 5 ilvls

[grim prism]

^

[prisma crane]

even if both end up similar, i'd prefer the feel of the additional haste

but that's just my opinion

[steel mauve]

Too many stats that 40 of a secondary will not even be close

[dark junco]

Hmm @steel mauve might be onto something tho

On wrist socket would be worth more

Right on that end

[steel mauve]

It would be close on wrist/cloak and stuff but its no where close on legs chest or helm

[grim prism]

Almost as if he is literally saying that the 370 has a higher stat budget even with a socket

Lol

[thin mortar]

there is only one way to settle this.... roll a 20 sided die. true Blizzard style.

[dark junco]

Chest helm is azerite territory tho now, so its another debate, but yeah I understand what ya mean.

[grim prism]

D20 makes way more fucking sense than Blizzard RNG

You take that back

[steel mauve]

Ya im still used to high budget chest and helm, not used to azerite shit yet

[dark junco]

Yeah

[thin mortar]

lol, the odds would seem more likely that's for sure

[dark junco]

Thats why I said that I understood what ya meant @steel mauve

Cause I remeber legion stats bufget

[grim prism]

@sick sentinel tldr you want the 370

Looks like only one person decisively voted 365

[dark junco]

Alright roll a d20 @sick sentinel

[grim prism]

/roll

[dark junco]

So you can decide

51+ = 370

[coral bramble]

When it comes to Azerite gear, is it worth while to use a 340 "Brace for Impact" shoulder over a 355 Raid shoulder? I'm not entirely sure if the raw str gain from "Archive of the Titans" + the 15 ilvls overpowers the survivability gain of the bonus 220 block per SS.

[grim prism]

If it's a natty 1 you have to reroll ele sham

[dark junco]

^

At 100 reroll fotm DK

[grim prism]

@coral bramble it will

[thin mortar]

damn, saq is savage!

[grim prism]

The only azerite trait worth sacking 15 ilvl for is DC

[dark junco]

Wait not true

[steel mauve]

Only trait to drop ilvl for is DC, otherwise ilvl still wins

[dark junco]

Depending on the ilvl, they might be a few others

[grim prism]

Considering youre replacing BFI with archive, it balances out

If you were replacing a BFI 340 with a traitless or generic 355 maybe

[dark junco]

In raid yeah.

But outside not sure.

[grim prism]

Archive stacks outside of the raid

Reorigination Array is the raid-only one

[steel mauve]

The stats off the ilvl alone should still win

[dark junco]

But Marok pointed out I should use my 370 helm instead of 385

[steel mauve]

Thats a lot of armor str and stam

[grim prism]

What was the case for that

370 BFI over...?

[dark junco]

On mobile but you can search it up 385 putrid iirc vs 370 mother

[grim prism]

Also nice helm

Wait what

Thats preposterous

[dark junco]

since the 370 had bfi and av, it was better than the 385 with i cant remember what

[grim prism]

385 putrid has iron fortress

[dark junco]

Yup

But marok said 370

[grim prism]

@fierce juniper wat

[dark junco]

lol

And I do agree with him, even more so on the fact that I have a low shield and I prefer stacking BFI for bv

[grim prism]

Are we valuing Veins so hard that its going to outperform 15 ilvl?

[steel mauve]

But IF is so close to BfI

[worthy karma]

Im on vacation so i havent played in a week. How are we feeling since the slight buff?

[dark junco]

BFI and AV together with Visage yeah

bfi can stack not IF

You can get 2 procs of bfi

[grim prism]

Youre looking at less than a 100pt difference in block rating avg from those traits

Likely*

[dark junco]

Sorry Marok for getting you ping’ed lol

[grim prism]

BFI being stronger as a trait, but enough to outperform 15 ilvl?

Granted the 385 has shit inner rings

[dark junco]

It doesnt alone outperferm 15ilvl

bfi + av + visage does

[fierce juniper]

I forget what the traits were on his pieces, but yeah some traits other than DC are worth sacrificing ilvl for.
I mean, the guide recommends always taking ilvl on non-DC pieces because generally speaking they'll be an upgrade, but in some cases an ilvl upgrade isn't worth on on azerite pieces.

The DR gained from Strength and the health gained from the stam increase isn't a lot from 15 ilvls

compared to getting a better trait on a lower ilvl piece

[grim prism]

But in the case of comparing a 370 BFI to a 385 IF?

[dark junco]

Thanks for your enlightement Marok ❤

[signal plover]

Anyone have a link to @hot locust 's post handy?

[grim prism]

Those traits are going to be remarkably similar in practice

[sick sentinel]

marok can you comment on my pants as well? ❤

[fierce juniper]

That wasn't the only thing though, because Kral had to swap out another piece or something

i forget exactly what it was

[grim prism]

Ahh gotcha

Okay that I can underatand

Taken in a vacuum it seemed wonky

[fierce juniper]

yeah

[worthy karma]

Im on vacation so i havent played in a week. How are we feeling since the vanguard buff?

[junior ivy]

maybe its like a placebo effect, but i feel stronger a little lol

[grim prism]

The same

Lol

I feel a little stronger... about 1% stronger to be succinct

[worthy karma]

Heh

[junior ivy]

like i tanked an AD 9 and freehold 10 lkast night

last

and i felt i did pretty good

i didnt die except once when we somehoiw pulled like 4 packs of trahs in freehold

it was not my faulyt

[grim prism]

Last week was a good week

[junior ivy]

i swear

[sand egret]

@signal plover , check the tanking thread on the /r/wow

[signal plover]

I found it thnx

[prisma crane]

this wk doesnt seem to bad either tbh

teeming can be shitty in a few places, but without fort it's less shit

and volc is nothing

[junior ivy]

this week seems ok

[hard sigil]

hmm guys how good is that horde banner trait?

[prisma crane]

and tyrannical is easier than fort nowadays in most places too

#alliance

[junior ivy]

wait. shit. my key this week is tol dagor

that last boss is gonna suck

on tyrannical

[prisma crane]

just get 2 range and a rogue

[junior ivy]

im so bad at tanking that last boss cause uh, i dunno if you ever noticed when you saw me tanking krotos, but i literally dont ever stop jumping

my thumb is on the spacebar just clicking it over and over

i jump while tankking always

[prisma crane]

is the stun thing based on distance traveled or time spent moving?

[junior ivy]

and jumping makes you get stunned or something on that fight

[prisma crane]

i jump too, but i'm fairly good at not doing it when im focused,

[sick sentinel]

I know what you should do

stop being a sperg

[junior ivy]

i dont even think about it, jumping is like subsconciuous

[prisma crane]

i also mostly jump when i move, not standing still

[junior ivy]

i just automaticlaly jump

[sick sentinel]

I do it too

but when you need to stop, it's time to stop

[prisma crane]

when i stand still i A D A D A a lot

[junior ivy]

sometimes people are like "why do you keep jumping" and i dont even realize im doing it

omg me too

adadadaddad

[prisma crane]

but stuff liek that debuff it's not hard

[junior ivy]

i love when i start adadadading and someone beside me starts adadadading too

[prisma crane]

and if it's muscle memory, jsut hit your keyboard with your thumb instead of your spacebar

[sick sentinel]

cat do you pvp?

[junior ivy]

nah i dont pvp

[sick sentinel]

weird

[junior ivy]

im tempted to start pvping just for hippo mount

[sick sentinel]

I adadada when I play my rogue or my encha shaman

[neon tangle]

@junior ivy tbh it took me lie 3 runs of FH to realize that one suds debuf stunned me when I jumped

and a wipe on TD to stop jumping

[sick sentinel]

dude, freaking freehold man

[junior ivy]

ive had to train myself not to jump while healing, casue itd interrupt my casts

[sick sentinel]

my disc ALWAYS jumps when he casts penace

[prisma crane]

human racial outta that shit 😏

[sick sentinel]

so he gets stunned

[junior ivy]

human racials are unfairly good.

its not fair.

[prisma crane]

not anymore

it's pretty shit tbh

[weary nacelle]

Hey fellas, pure defensively ,which two of the three trinkets below would you use. Lets talk Heroic uldir.

[sick sentinel]

orc racial 😄

[junior ivy]

the rep though..

the 10% rep.,.

[prisma crane]

gnome is more useful

first two imo

[sick sentinel]

pure surv I would say blockades and rezans

[junior ivy]

blockades ❤

[thin mortar]

I would say blockades and rezan

[primal crypt]

Oh blockades my bby

[junior ivy]

omg i need a stupid DMC fathoms SOOO BAD

[primal crypt]

Its so good

[junior ivy]

BUT I DUNNO ANY INSCRIPTORS

2 of my good friends in the guild botrh changed from isncript to alchemy

[neon tangle]

you know the AH tho

[weary nacelle]

what about the versa one, its a big defensive buff, isnt it

[prisma crane]

but if it's a magic heavy fight, you could probably argue in favor of the pvp one over rezans, maybe

[junior ivy]

its too expensive on ah lol

[sick sentinel]

if you asked me personally I use use the double 370s

[neon tangle]

I'd prolly use the 370's too

[junior ivy]

look what im using on my resto druid

[weary nacelle]

how good is the blockade in this case. PVP trinket gives 164 matery and a big chunk of str on use.

[frosty wedge]

purely defensively, I'd go rezans/blockades

[weary nacelle]

purely defensively i was thinking of dropping Rezan, should i? It gives haste on proc, but the other two give pure defensive

[prisma crane]

haste is our best defensive secondary

[open bluff]

rezan's is also only 1ppm

[sick sentinel]

so 25% uptime?

on average

[frosty wedge]

haste makes everything better

[primal crypt]

Rezans is great

[sick sentinel]

you are asking for uldir

[primal crypt]

Love it

[sick sentinel]

so haste makes your CDs come up faster

[weary nacelle]

uldir ye

[sick sentinel]

so when you tank swap you have CDs up faster

[frosty wedge]

it also makes you gain and spend rage faster

[sick sentinel]

that's my point mike

[primal crypt]

It's also fast

[neon tangle]

I lied

[sick sentinel]

more haste=more rage generated=more rage spent=faster CDs

[neon tangle]

I think rezans is better

[frosty wedge]

you're looking at an average of... 172 haste at 1 ppc

[neon tangle]

Rezans: 271 Str + 172 haste
PvP: 189.625 str + 164 vers

averaging out str/haste

[prisma crane]

best bet for pvp one is in very heavy magic dmg, but even then, toss up

[frosty wedge]

rezans feels like a mini lust

[prisma crane]

and in that case, i'd rather have a Jes

[junior ivy]

im hopin to get a jes this week out of my tol dagor

[neon tangle]

Honestly looking at that idk if I'd even take the pvp one over blocakdes

[sick sentinel]

Rezan's also synergises with blockades

[neon tangle]

Maybe for m+ if you want some more burst

[sick sentinel]

because blockades scale with haste

[thin mortar]

i love my jes. its op as shit

[robust bronze]

thornwoven or ritual binder?

[prisma crane]

i hate you and your rings

[sick sentinel]

ritual

[frosty wedge]

ritual

[junior ivy]

wow i hate you and those rings too

[robust bronze]

hehe

[thin mortar]

agreed. hate is due

[junior ivy]

both my rings are crit/mast

[prisma crane]

but yea, ritual

[steep lily]

Especially if you're keeping a crit enchant on your thornwoven

[neon tangle]

@junior ivy Hello crit friend

[frosty wedge]

I have a 355 haste/vers and a heroic rot scour

[sick sentinel]

1,5k str for me is about 700 armor

[weary nacelle]

si would rather go with Blockade + Rezan, is that what youre saying

rather than Rezan + pvp trinket

[sick sentinel]

yeah rezan+blockades

[junior ivy]

should i try this on +13?

[sick sentinel]

for defence

rezan+PvP for BIG BOY DAMAGE

[frosty wedge]

wait, did you go a +16 lastw eek?

[finite cairn]

My gear is so crit heavy the uldir armor gives me crit on the array too, I hate those rings too

[neon tangle]

@finite cairn Living that 1200 crit life

[sick sentinel]

@finite cairn crit is good for m+

[thin mortar]

that crit/parry is so good for zul. kappa

[frosty wedge]

or is the chest still bugged giving last week of legion key levels?

lol

[neon tangle]

TBH m+ is less hard than I expected

[junior ivy]

@frosty wedge no i just had that bug where i got a +20 at first week of bfa

and its been going down by 1 ever since

even though i generally only do +11s and +10s

[frosty wedge]

ah, that's so nice

[neon tangle]

I can mostly face-tank +9's and +10's at this point

[sick sentinel]

I facetank everything

[junior ivy]

^^

me too

[neon tangle]

Only issues I've had are dumb af dps who can't interupt

[finite cairn]

I have 25% parry my crit is so damn high, my arms is fuckin bonkers

[sick sentinel]

I have been running +10s and +9s with my guilds alts even

[neon tangle]

@finite cairn Yeah I've got 22% parry or something

it's pretty silly

but whatever, I take the gear that drops

[thin mortar]

think i'm at like 20 myself. gear has been really hit and miss

[sick sentinel]

20.88% parry eeeeyy

[neon tangle]

@junior ivy For some reason I expected to have to kite more

[thin mortar]

haven't gotten a single piece with DC on it yet though. 😢

[finite cairn]

Warriors are the parry tank now, step aside dork knights

[junior ivy]

i rarely kite anymore in +11s

[neon tangle]

what's your ilvl?

[junior ivy]

😦

STUPID AZERITE

forced to use 340 shoulders

[neon tangle]

Welp, about what I'm at then

[junior ivy]

when i got 380 ones

[neon tangle]

I'm 365 now I think

[delicate prism]

at least is not teeming fortified

[neon tangle]

teeming fort was pure cancer

[frosty wedge]

fortified teeming is awful

[finite cairn]

I’m at 368, damn 340 chest only DC piece I have

[neon tangle]

God those fucking magic floating things in motherlode

[prisma crane]

you must have a lot of other items that are spec specific, how is your bag ilvl that much higher than equipped if ilvl is king for us?

[frosty wedge]

wasn't that week also necrotic?

[junior ivy]

is anyone else annoyed that its a brand new expac and we didnt get new m+ affixes????????

besides stupid infested

which you barely notice

[prisma crane]

infested is only for this tier btw

[frosty wedge]

yeah next tier will be something new

[neon tangle]

I expected infested to be harder

[junior ivy]

but theycoulda gave us more new affixes..

infested is only hard in waycrest lol

they go through walls

through floors

[frosty wedge]

lol

[neon tangle]

I have done exactly 0 waycrest m+

[grim prism]

You are missing nothing

It drops nothing of value except transmog

[neon tangle]

Blizz really wants me to do FH and KR

[prisma crane]

^

[neon tangle]

100% of my keys for 3 weeks have been those

[prisma crane]

all i want is a shield

[neon tangle]

"Hey you finished FH? How about you do FH again?"

[frosty wedge]

lol, blizz wants me to not do M+

[grim prism]

Blizz wants me to unsub

[frosty wedge]

as is evidenced by the fact they keep giving me shrine

[prisma crane]

im nearly 370, have a 340 shield

[junior ivy]

oof

[prisma crane]

did atal like 6 times last wk

[junior ivy]

i got 355 ghuun shield

[prisma crane]

did get 385 gloves with a socket

[junior ivy]

i wana get a 370 version of it

[prisma crane]

but no shield

[neon tangle]

@prisma crane I got my 370 vectis shield on my first try :/

[prisma crane]

got the bracers twice

i coin vectis every wk

coined Ghuun last wk

[junior ivy]

im coining tol dagor 12 this week

[prisma crane]

coined Atal on the 10 i did

[junior ivy]

aaaand ghuun i guess

[neon tangle]

oh, also good news, I found a new guild

[zealous ore]

"Protection" to be renamed to "legs"
Literally just walk away from your opponents.

[junior ivy]

grats sadbox

[neon tangle]

Transfered to Tich, took like 30s to find a 2/8M

[prisma crane]

i wouldnt mind TC having its 50% slow back

[junior ivy]

TC LOST ITS 50% SLOW?

i didnt even know that

[hollow thorn]

@zealous ore Agreed, good suggesition

[prisma crane]

then at least it'd feel useful

in that respect

[sick sentinel]

@junior ivy @finite cairn do PvP for 355 ilvl DC shoulders

[prisma crane]

obviously it's great for dmg

[neon tangle]

@junior ivy It still slows, just 20% now I think

[junior ivy]

wait

wiat

what

captain

[sick sentinel]

if you cap conquest enough you will get it

[prisma crane]

it's 20%

[junior ivy]

unyun

explain to me.

now please

im confused

i dont pvp

[prisma crane]

pvp weekly reward

eventually you get shoulders

[sick sentinel]

no weekly reward

[junior ivy]

so what do i do to get it

[sick sentinel]

basically you can cap conquest for each week bfa has been out or some shit

[junior ivy]

and dont say "pvp" cause i need speicifcs

do i do bgs

arenas

etc

[sick sentinel]

CONQUEST

[junior ivy]

what

[sick sentinel]

LOADS OF IT]

[junior ivy]

is conquest

[sick sentinel]

ranked pvp

[prisma crane]

wins in arena and RBGs

[junior ivy]

is rbgs rated bgs or random bgs

i forget

[sick sentinel]

rated

[prisma crane]

if you ever see "RBG" it's rated

[junior ivy]

what if i dont win and only lose

will i still get conquest

[prisma crane]

if you ever see RGB it's red green blue

[sick sentinel]

no cat

you need to win

[prisma crane]

^

you'll get wins

[junior ivy]

how many rgb wins would i need

to get shoulders

[prisma crane]

you're better off doing 2s or 3s

it's faster

[junior ivy]

but i suck at arenas

in rbgs at least other people can do trrhe work

[prisma crane]

your MMR will be low

[junior ivy]

hmm

k how many arena wins would i need to get sghoulders?

[prisma crane]

RBGs are harder to get into

[sick sentinel]

a lot

[junior ivy]

like whats a lot

5?

10?

20?

[prisma crane]

over 50

[junior ivy]

IN A WEEK?

or in my life?

[sick sentinel]

no

[prisma crane]

no

[junior ivy]

how many in a week i mean

[prisma crane]

it's something like 15 wins per week's worth of conquest

[junior ivy]

hmm

okay.

[sick sentinel]

you can cap once each week, but if you did not cap last week you can cap twice

[prisma crane]

up to 3 wks worth of "debt"

[junior ivy]

what classes go well with prot warrior for 3s?

[sick sentinel]

so you have not capped for like 6 weeks

prot warrior is 3s is weird, do you have a dps spec?

[junior ivy]

i can play fury

[prisma crane]

since you know fury

go fury

[thin mortar]

the trick to winning pvp as horde is not to be horde... trick for alliance is to not be alliance. or so I've been told in all my pugs QQ

[junior ivy]

k what other clkasses should i bring?

[candid cove]

Lockjaw spaulders. yeah boi we in this. there's my raid support, tradewinds.

[prisma crane]

at your MMR, just go with people who are ok with losing

[junior ivy]

hm, okay

question

[sick sentinel]

a healer and another guy

like a mage

[junior ivy]

will doing these 3s for conquest for shoulders ALSO contributre towards a hippopotamous?

[prisma crane]

healer and another melee wouldnt be bad either, can just tunnel a player and blow your load

[sick sentinel]

after 1400 rank

[junior ivy]

casue if i can kill 2 birds with 1 stone

and get hippo and shoulders..

[brisk flax]

Do both the block and "thorns" damage stack with Iron Fortress?

[prisma crane]

if you pvp regularly, 1400 is like, training wheels for ppl who "try" to pvp

[sick sentinel]

@brisk flax yes

[junior ivy]

ok, you know what, im a pvper now. its decided.

[sick sentinel]

1400 is trash rank lol

[brisk flax]

So taking 2 azerite pieces with Iron Fortress over 1 Iron Fortress and a Reinforced plating is better?

[sick sentinel]

and that's coming from a guy that started pvp in BfA

[prisma crane]

if you wanna get wins above 1400 and you're new, just play with the same people all the time

[brisk flax]

both 370 ilvl

[sick sentinel]

double iron fortress

[prisma crane]

you cant even lose rank below 1k iirc

[brisk flax]

double iron fortress is better Captain?

[junior ivy]

nice

i gotta find people now

for pvp

[sick sentinel]

Iron fortress gives you block

[brisk flax]

ya i kind of figured

just wanted to be sure

[sick sentinel]

317 block is like 10 shield item levels

[brisk flax]

my shield is so bad 😦

still cant get one to drop

[sick sentinel]

how bad

[brisk flax]

stuck with BoE

350

been spamming that Atal

[sick sentinel]

also motherlode

[brisk flax]

havent had any luck

[sick sentinel]

and tol dagor

[brisk flax]

Atal is faster though isnt it?

[sick sentinel]

it is

[brisk flax]

just thinking time spent

[frosty wedge]

yeah

[brisk flax]

so i just spam that shit

[sick sentinel]

but finding the keys is also a thing

[brisk flax]

plus haste mastery is BiS for us isnt it at the moment?

[frosty wedge]

not hard to get into 7+ atal's as a tank though

[sick sentinel]

haste for raids, mastery+crit for m+

once you reach a healthy amount of haste where you can play the game, that is

[thin mortar]

I got me a +9 AD this week. woohoo!

[sand egret]

for some, playing the game means ALL THE HASTE

(aka me)

[sick sentinel]

I prefer staying alive

[sand egret]

12 second SB does help with that

[sick sentinel]

sometimes, staying alive means parrying the bleeds

[mighty gulch]

Hey brand new prot tank here. If i have a unblockable damage source coming in, I prioritise ignore pain, correct?

[sick sentinel]

yes

and prayers

[sand egret]

usually it'll be a spell

so use Spell Reflect

[frosty wedge]

IP/SR

[sand egret]

if it's Shoot

then fucking pray

[brisk flax]

should try to get an IP in any time big damage is coming if you can get both

[frosty wedge]

LOL

[delicate prism]

Hit IP, if it's Shoot. Hit many Fs

[mighty gulch]

Yeah shoot is what i was hinting at

Shoot/bleeds from kings rest

[grim prism]

MANY FS

HANDLE IT

[mighty gulch]

I die every time im shot and bleed

[mellow bridge]

Wait why should we go mastery + crit for M+

I'm just stacking haste and I'm comfortably doing up to 13 rn

[mighty gulch]

Is there a way to avoid the bleed in kings rest, from the berserkers

[frosty wedge]

kite

:p

[mighty gulch]

That just kills my alllies

[thin mortar]

that bleed range is fierce

[brisk flax]

in Atal i like to bring a DK for higher keys

to deal with bleeds easier

[mighty gulch]

It strikes the nearest person in 10 yards if i kite it'll hit an ally

[brisk flax]

idk if that is possible in kings

[sick sentinel]

@mellow bridge haste it is not worse, the value of the other 2 increase

[brisk flax]

i usually dont bother with kings anymore

[mellow bridge]

You should be able to handle one bleed Fatcamp

[mighty gulch]

I can handle one fine

[mellow bridge]

If it's two berserkers, either CC one or let a dd actually take one

[thin mortar]

1 bleed is np

[mellow bridge]

Or use a CD for two stacks

SW or an external

[mighty gulch]

I -do- use cds

I still die

[delicate prism]

git gud

[thin mortar]

i'm not having issues with it. lol

[mighty gulch]

I use shield wall and ignore pain, still die lmao

[uneven mason]

and demo shout?

and more Ignore pain?

[mighty gulch]

I cast demo on cd

[delicate prism]

what about F?

[mighty gulch]

Whats f?

[primal crypt]

F

LUL

[neon tangle]

It's really silly that our active mitigation mitigates more damage than shield wall

[gray parrot]

Ok bois...my new Mythic cash gave me an upgrade to my Chest. BUT I need help with trait selection

Bloodsport or Blood Rite

[neon tangle]

[sick sentinel]

secondaries matter

[lusty grotto]

@gray parrot ilvl upgrade? then traits don't matter unless you don't have DC for some reason

[gray parrot]

yea its 370 over my form 355 chest

[lusty grotto]

uh huh so use it

more armor, more str

[gray parrot]

perhaps my question wasnt worded correctly

I have a new chest and I want to know what people think about the two tank trait options on it

I was leaning towards Bloodsport but I have heard people say it was questionable

I have read the guides @neon tangle ...I was looking for additional input

[lusty grotto]

check the icyveins guide

azerite trait section

[gray parrot]

I have read it

I do not consider any one guide to be gospel, I enjoy gathering opinions of others to weigh all the info i can

[lusty grotto]

well that's the guide we treat as gospel so

anything you ask here will be basically that

[neon tangle]

^^

[gray parrot]

oof

[lusty grotto]

it's written by our mods so yeah

[mighty gulch]

Blood rites gives haste, isn't haste like godtier?

[signal plover]

Jeez guys way to make it sound like we're a cult

[mighty gulch]

Also on icyveins blood rite isn't listed

[gray parrot]

SILENCE SPARKY

[lusty grotto]

no

[thin mortar]

all hail Marok and his infinite wisdom.

[gray parrot]

ICEY VEINS HAS SPOKEN

[lusty grotto]

if blood rite isn't listed, it's because it sucks dick

[mighty gulch]

Ah.

[gray parrot]

No one can contest our lord and savior

[neon tangle]

@mighty gulch It's not "god tier", it's just very slightly better than our other stats

i.e. it only matters when comparing same-ilvl peices

[gray parrot]

heaven forbid we hold an interesting dialog where ideas and experiences are shared

[signal plover]

@gray parrot the big question is: is there an ilvl jump involved and would the new piece be replacing DC

[mighty gulch]

Got'cha sadbox. I've been asking around since im a new prot warrior and everyone has just told me to "get all the haste"

[sand egret]

it's also more than we been had this dialogue....and it turned into that guide haha

[neon tangle]

@mighty gulch Just for an example, I have pretty low haste, but that's cause all the high ilvl drops I've gotten have crit

[mighty gulch]

Isn't it like minimum 15 ilvl to replace DC?

[south bronze]

What's the best way to analyze my raid's prot warrior's performance? I have a feeling he's overlapping cooldowns

[sand egret]

best way?

[neon tangle]

@mighty gulch More like 30ilvl+

[sand egret]

throw your logs in here

[thin mortar]

check da logs

[lusty grotto]

it's not an interesting dialog if there's pins about it @gray parrot

[mighty gulch]

check his cooldowns on logs

[sand egret]

we'll eat them like wolves

[gray parrot]

nothing in the guide suggests that the opinion on traits came from anything more than his feelings

[mighty gulch]

Hell even details can track cooldown usage in fights.

[south bronze]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KTMfF2pGDc13qXaY#fight=16

[gray parrot]

feel free to not comment then chip

[mighty gulch]

Also why are you bringing a prot warrior to uldir?

[south bronze]

Meat's back on the menu

[gray parrot]

I was unaware I was holding a gun to your head

[neon tangle]

on a scale of 1-dumb, how silly is it that I've killed mythic mother, but not mythic taloc?

[gray parrot]

@signal plover it is not replacing DC thankfully, the new item is 15 ilvls higher and has both traits

[sick sentinel]

i killed M zekvoz yet not ghuun heroic for a long time

so its not dumb

[neon tangle]

@sick sentinel hey I'm 4/8 for heroic

[lusty grotto]

i mean, i'm trying to help here but if youre gonna be all passive aggresive about it, we can have @fierce juniper chime on his claims in the guide

[neon tangle]

shit I haven't even killed h zek

[lusty grotto]

would that make you feel any better @gray parrot ?

[mighty gulch]

Also I haven't played for a while. Why did they remove hit rating if you can still miss mobs?

[sick sentinel]

cause it was hard xd

[fierce juniper]

Err, what's the question?

[mighty gulch]

But you can -still- miss mobs.

[sick sentinel]

dont know they removed lots of stuff to make it simple for people in general

[mighty gulch]

So why was it removed.

[gray parrot]

Bloodrite v Blood Sport

[quaint kiln]

@gray parrot why not try them both and see? You’re not locked. You can always reforge....form your own opinion and move on.

[gray parrot]

because I enjoy hearing from other tanks

[quaint kiln]

Take bloodsport

[sick sentinel]

to make the game simpler overall only 4 secondary stat and only 1 main stat to worry about

[gray parrot]

why not be efficient with my time and gather as much info as I can

[neon tangle]

@fierce juniper Did you have any thoughts on Blood Rite ( https://www.wowhead.com/spell=280409/blood-rite )

[signal plover]

I would take Bloodsport there

[thin mortar]

@south bronze He should cast Demo shout a lot more often. only 2 casts on that zul fight

[fierce juniper]

Eh, Proc haste isn't terrible, but I never recommend anyone take an "RNG" option when there are consistent survivability options to choose from.
Unless those consistent options are really bad.

[quaint kiln]

Overwhelming majority suggested bloodsport. Problem solved

2-0

[steady dock]

@south bronze Don't know the dude's stats but I find it weird he's rolling Mastery ench on a prot war weapon

[south bronze]

@thin mortar interesting.. how is his cd usage

[thin mortar]

very poor

only 12 shield blocks whole fight

[mighty gulch]

Wait what.

[bitter venture]

Jesus yeah I see that log

[mighty gulch]

How long is the fight?

[south bronze]

ok i need to get him in here

[neon tangle]

Was he tanking the crawgs?

or the big dude

[south bronze]

crushers

[gray parrot]

I am curious as to why blood rite isnt valued as high. Does it change based on your current haste?

[neon tangle]

@south bronze oh that's prolly not good then

[mighty gulch]

That fight better be like 2 minutes long if he only has 12 shield blocks

[quaint kiln]

Profs are bad

Procs*

[thin mortar]

3.41 long

[mighty gulch]

He should have like 20-26 shield blocks then right?

[neon tangle]

Some fights (i.e. OT-ing first zul phase, OT-ing MOTHER, OT-ing non-m-Taloc) you'll have dumb parses

[grim prism]

Yo what are those talents

He isnt even using The Build

[lusty grotto]

^TM

[south bronze]

he's.. unique

😄

[gray parrot]

wowhead puts BR in Average while putting BS in "special" with caveats to its value...which is dissimilar to the iceveins guide. That was why it originally made me question which was objectively better (if that is possible to say)

[thin mortar]

last phase i wouldn't expect him to SB, so i could see that. but 12 is still low

[grim prism]

Yeah he needs to review the basics in the guide

[south bronze]

could you guys help him?

[mighty gulch]

So like 20 sb min right?

[grim prism]

Two demo shouts in a 3:41 fight

[south bronze]

he's open to learning

[signal plover]

Depends on how you feel about procced bonuses. On high ilvl, I rly like the bonus from BS

Plus leech

[grim prism]

One LS

[mighty gulch]

Is he using bolster?

[grim prism]

Yeah he is SEVERELY underutilizing cooldowns

[sand egret]

Damn now I need to get in on this log

[signal plover]

@south bronze he should study the guide pinned here as a starting point imo

[thin mortar]

best advise would be some light reading for him tust... icyveins is a sure shot for at least 90% of all questions

[sand egret]

BRB

[south bronze]

ok

[grim prism]

In addition to a suboptimal talent buid

But most importantly, cooldowns are wasted if they are never used

[fierce juniper]

@gray parrot Well none of the non spec specific outer ring traits are ranked in the IV guide.
Blood rite is definitely one of the "better" ones.

[grim prism]

And there is egregious underuse here

Without digging into specifics

[south bronze]

ok

[sand egret]

he casted DSHout TWICE?!

[sick sentinel]

smh

[gray parrot]

TY Marok, if I already have 16% haste do you think its better to skip Blood Rite then?

[fierce juniper]

For Bloodsport?
yes

[sick sentinel]

Dumb players playing tank for ez game

[gray parrot]

ok, ty

[fierce juniper]

You don't need any specific amount of Haste

And with the current build there aren't really any soft caps.

[mighty gulch]

I have 17% haste and thats before into the fray buffs, is that good?

[grim prism]

His shield block usage is BY FAR not the biggest problem here

[bitter venture]

Hey guys could I get your opinions on this - I have a full set of 340/355 prot azerite gear, but my arms azerite is 385 - should I just use the arms set with no traits for prot for the stat increase?

the reforging cost is over 10k

=/

[mighty gulch]

Keep deafening crash and replace the others

[south bronze]

@grim prism is it the demo?

[mighty gulch]

imo

[sick sentinel]

Rofl

[sand egret]

@south bronze it's literally all his CDs imho

[grim prism]

Demo is the biggest one given the relatively short cooldown

[sand egret]

Demo and LS are the biggest offenders imho

[grim prism]

But yeah, basically all CDs

[south bronze]

yeah

[hot locust]

I have experienced true divinity. Last boss of temple buff + Lust + 2xOverwhelming Power + ITF = Tclap every GCD.

[south bronze]

only casting each one once

seems low

[sand egret]

Say it with me

[mellow bridge]

Jesus Lala

[mighty gulch]

Lala that sounds orgasmic

[grim prism]

He is running bolster and used Last Stand one time all fight. That should be a rotational filler for block downtime

[sand egret]

👢 🍵 👏 !

[mellow bridge]

I can only get so erect

[grim prism]

Not a healthCd

[hot locust]

muh avatar damage

[mellow bridge]

btw guys how are M+ affixes this week for us? Should be pretty easy right

[steady dock]

@hot locust

[mighty gulch]

NUTTY

[sand egret]

😭

[south bronze]

holy crap

[steady dock]

154% haste is the buff we need 😄

[sand egret]

so pretty

[south bronze]

i never read bolster

[hot locust]

Thats probably about the same, yeah.

[sand egret]

Bolster is pretty much the defacto talent on that tier

[grim prism]

He also needs to be running booming voice instead of devastator

[south bronze]

what is the normal cd on last stand

[steady dock]

3 mins

before AM

[sand egret]

3 min, reduces it to 2. But AM reduces it further

[neon tangle]

@south bronze bolster is really a stupidly strong CD

[grim prism]

Itll be around 1:30

1:40

[steady dock]

Somewhere between 50s and 1:40

[grim prism]

Oh derp

[south bronze]

ok

[grim prism]

Yeah that

[neon tangle]

@south bronze We mitigation like 40%+ damage when we block, and it's 15s long

[sand egret]

If you're swimming in rage (which unfortunately happens) then you can get it real low

[south bronze]

so when you dont have shield block up you last stand

[grim prism]

With bolster and AM youre looking at about one min

Correct

And again

[sand egret]

basically, use 3 shield blocks then LS

[grim prism]

His blocked hits rate is better than a lot ive seen here tbh

[south bronze]

ez pz

[grim prism]

Its cooldowns, holy shit the cooldowns

[mighty gulch]

I use last stand to block while i have both charges of shield block on cooldown, that correct?

[grim prism]

Those make or break the spec

[sand egret]

warrior is ALL about weaving cds

[grim prism]

@mighty gulch ya

[mighty gulch]

I started playing prot 3 days ago i think i have the hang of it already

[grim prism]

Also, he is literally better off defensively taking Booming Voice and removing Devastate from his bar, than taking Devastator

[sand egret]

yeah use it as a gap to recharge

[mellow bridge]

Can you properly log M+? As in is it worth to log and try to see mistakes

[mighty gulch]

My only issues have been "shoot" and the bleed in kings rest

[grim prism]

Deva is crap

@mellow bridge yes

[steady dock]

@mellow bridge start logging before the key is in

[mellow bridge]

I should prolly do that

[sand egret]

"Shoot" is the bane of warriors

so join the club

[grim prism]

Its hard to deliniate individual pulls but the data is just as good

[mellow bridge]

Aight

gonna log some of our higher keys this week I guess

[sand egret]

but the Bleed has some tricks, I personally like to dump the bleed onto a hunter pet

[mighty gulch]

Just ignore pain and pray?

[mellow bridge]

and try to get some feedback

[steady dock]

@mighty gulch DS + IP

[south bronze]

Thanks for the feedback guys..

[thin mortar]

"Throw Rock".... its SuPeR eFfEcTiVe!

[steady dock]

It's manageable ... somehow.

[south bronze]

basically he needs to read the guide

[steady dock]

Then you can use a wall to los it but your healer will hate you for that

[sand egret]

that's a great start

[mighty gulch]

If i DS a berserker does it reduce the damage of the bleed on me or do i have to DS before its cast on me?

[sand egret]

it does

[grim prism]

But yeah @south bronze you gotta yell at your boy about demo shout and booming voice

[sand egret]

its dynamic

[thin mortar]

its all good, i hate my healer anyway. ROFL!

[mighty gulch]

so use DS reactivly?

to the bleed

or try and predict it

[sand egret]

just try and keep up DS

[south bronze]

remind me what booming voice is

[neon tangle]

@south bronze It would also help if he had a deafening crash trait

[mighty gulch]

I do anyway

[grim prism]

Blocking isnt bad already, and if he uses LS properly he will have 80%+ bloxck rate i think

[sand egret]

on the zerker if possible

[grim prism]

Booming voice is a talent competing with devastator

[south bronze]

dudes i play a huntard

i need to get him in

[sand egret]

huge range generator and increases damge we deal to DS targets

[grim prism]

Demo shout CD reduction, gives you rage, makes you do more damage

Its WAY better than devastator

[bitter venture]

i don't think devastator is competitive anymore is it?

[steady dock]

@south bronze reroll prot and show him 😛

[sand egret]

newp

[mighty gulch]

Is there a list of boss abilities from dungeons that are blockable?

[sand egret]

yep!

[south bronze]

i haven't tanked a warrior since wrath naxx

[mighty gulch]

Pls link

[neon tangle]

@south bronze Deafening crash is an azerite trait that extends the duration of demo shout by 2s every time you thunderclap

[steady dock]

@mighty gulch pins 😃

[fierce juniper]

In pins sparky, or #268491842637660160

[mighty gulch]

Ty

[grim prism]

Devastator is literally only better in terms of pure-single-target DPS

[neon tangle]

So you can hit really high demo shout uptimes if you have the trait

[south bronze]

i see

[sand egret]

combined with avatar + unstoppable force

[neon tangle]

^^

[sand egret]

you spam it every other gcd

[grim prism]

Its a DPS loss in cleave, and a defensive loss in all cases

[steady dock]

you can get DS off cd before it goes off the mobs

[sand egret]

so you get crazy uyptime

[steady dock]

it's pretty absurd

[grim prism]

And yes, having a deafening crash trait is borderline mandatory

[mighty gulch]

Holy shit

This blockable list is so helpful thank you

[neon tangle]

You basically rotate through avatar + demo, then demo, then avatar+demo again

the CDs line up

[steady dock]

You get what... 60-70% demo uptime?

[neon tangle]

depends but yeah

(I sometimes trade off high uptime parses to line it up with useful stuff)

(i.e. no use in having it on fetid while he's eating shit across the room)

[steady dock]

i mean in a dummy scenario where you don't care about shit 😃

[neon tangle]

but yeah, around that

[steady dock]

So, dumb question but. Is our armor reducing physical damage from dots? Doesn't make sense really, but a confirmation would be nice

[steel mauve]

no

[fierce juniper]

Most physical damage bleeds are not reduced by armor.

Every once in a while there are some that are

[steady dock]

...but not Zul's. Because that would be OP as fuck. Right? 😄

[void sandal]

It seems like armor doesn't reduce the damage from the "buster shot" of the war machine mobs in ML

[sand egret]

is it counted as a spell?

[void sandal]

It's physical damage, but comes from a purple line in the combat log

[limber wigeon]

Hi friends! Has anyone else tried running the Mchimba's Ritual Bandages trinket? I've been experimenting with one that I got and have felt it overperforming compared to some of the other options I've tried. Has anyone else felt this way?

[bitter venture]

Sorry for repeating, will just ask once more since we were all helping that guy with his tank's logs before

I have a full set of 340/355 prot azerite gear, but my arms azerite is 385 - should I just use the arms set with no traits for prot for the stat increase?

[mighty gulch]

Do you have deafening crash on the 355?

[sand egret]

can you get DC on one of those pieces?

[neon tangle]

@void sandal wowhead says it's fire damage?

[steady dock]

@bitter venture keep DC piece and replace the rest

[mighty gulch]

^^

I said that erliar

[bitter venture]

Okay, must've missed it over all the other messages, thanks for the input

[sand egret]

when a log hits, this channel gets a-goin

[sick sentinel]

I would take the reforging hit but i have the gold for that. So long as you space out your reforging times.

[steady dock]

makes his logs private

[sick sentinel]

Cost will lower.

[sand egret]

it's 3 days right?

[sick sentinel]

Believe so.

[sand egret]

time to go home and see what the Cache-Fairy has for me.

[south bronze]

@sand egret lol you aren't joking

[sand egret]

/pray

[south bronze]

thanks for the feedback btw

[mighty gulch]

Other than the generic "do more damage" Is there a way to grasp threat better at the start of trash fights? I tab through targets trying to auto attack them all while aoeing but sometimes i still loose 1-2 mobs so i have to taunt back.

[sand egret]

one better played Prot warrior helps us ALL out in the long run

perception is a bitch

[sick sentinel]

Also I saw someone say something about zul. Just got M last night, i shouldnt have hone out of inc tc range and tried to pad for that juicy r1...

3 of 13 also feelsbad when you see ranks on logs

Poor warriora

[sand egret]

Sparky here's the best tip

use Ava THEN charge

[mighty gulch]

I cant -always- have avatar up every trash pull

[neon tangle]

@mighty gulch My opener is: Avatar -> Charge -> Demo -> TClap

[sand egret]

hmm i mean it's pretty often for me

haha

[steady dock]

pull more shit

[mighty gulch]

I have it up every 1-2 trash fights

[neon tangle]

Or Charge -> Demo -> TClap

[sick sentinel]

Yeah. In higher m+ its up almost every pull with AM

[mighty gulch]

I already charge demo tclap

[sand egret]

yeah then just go demo + tclap

[mighty gulch]

I already do this

[bitter venture]

is there a way to get threat over arms warriors that immediately charge WB/BS

[neon tangle]

Hire a rogue to tricks you

[mighty gulch]

While tabbing to auto attacking. I said this in the first post

[steady dock]

@bitter venture tell your healer to stop healing him

[bitter venture]

LMAO

[steady dock]

And bitch to blizz to bring back mocking banner

[mighty gulch]

Tbh

[steady dock]

shit that thing was fun

[mighty gulch]

It's my arms warrior friend

[sand egret]

then I would suggest seeing which idiot melee is focusing the wrong add and SS it

[mighty gulch]

That i struggle to keep aggro over.

[sand egret]

yell at him?

[neon tangle]

^^^

[sand egret]

does he like WAY outgear you?

[sick sentinel]

I run d trinkets and never have threat issues. It is your arms warrior tbh. I never run with warrior dps, never have the issue of threat

[neon tangle]

As this nice healer told me yesterday: Don't try and solve everyone's problems, they gotta fix them too

i.e. if someone insists on going HAM on shit while you've got to kite

[mighty gulch]

By like 10 ilvls yes

[neon tangle]

sucks for them

[sand egret]

yeah a lot of threat is actually the dps not realizing how threat works (as a lot of them never actually had to DEAL with it in their play history)

[sick sentinel]

Or being so used to legion threat values

[sand egret]

like tell him to not pop his warbreaker + BStorm until after a few GCDs

give you some time to stabilize, if you don't have Av that pull

[thin mortar]

rumor has it @hot locust ran with three arms warriors and never lost agro on a single mob... not once. Or so the legend goes.

[steady dock]

where do you find a warrior with 3 arms?

[sand egret]

I heard Lala BootyClapped so hard, he pulled aggro from mobs in Siege of Zul'dazar

[thin mortar]

me gusta BootyClap

[sand egret]

also GUESS WHO HAS TWO THUMBS AND IS GOING DARK IRON BABYEEEE

[steady dock]

Reinforce with Thunderass crash?

[sand egret]

woooooo

[hot locust]

[sand egret]

👢 🍵 👏

[vocal nimbus]

do you know why thunderclap hits so hard? when stomping the ground our balls clash so hard that thunder hits the earth

[lusty grotto]

rofl

[mighty gulch]

"Suck it up i got dps to do"

:lul:

[neon tangle]

Lets be honest, warriors throw more tantrums than the second boss in underrot

We spend all our time stomping around and shouting

[sand egret]

Also, apparently emissary azerite was in fact bugged

hotfixes going out

[neon tangle]

Good thing I already turned it in

and got a 355

[sand egret]

thank god for my workday? 😁

[thin mortar]

lucky me, maybe. i pool my dailies until tomorrow.

[hot locust]

My guild is deciding to extend on G'huun 😢

[thin mortar]

oof

[hot locust]

How am I supposed to get my azerite gear now 😡

[thin mortar]

btw lala, you need more vods. i never get to see you stream live because of work/life

[hot locust]

They auto-vod on twitch

I just don't stream too much outside of raid atm

because I'm not running much M+ or anything.

I'll probably pick up in activity a bit though.

[thin mortar]

good shit

you like NEVER see prot war doing high M+

[hot locust]

[thin mortar]

you're like my goto on that

[mighty gulch]

I've been denied from a +4 for being a warrior

[neon tangle]

^^

[thin mortar]

rip

[mighty gulch]

I'm always in a constant state of "Is this going to kill me"

[thin mortar]

the red machines in motherload... charged shot is hilarious on fortified

caught me pretty off guard last week with the immense damage it does

[hexed lion]

im EU what are affixes?

(this week)

[thin mortar]

teeming necrotic fort. 😛

[solid mist]

https://mythicpl.us/

[thin mortar]

i keed ofc.

[ember arrow]

ok

[mighty gulch]

I just opened my +2 chest and got a 350 piece of gear, is that correct?

I thought it was 355

[frosty wedge]

350 regular gear, 355 if it's azerite I think?

[mighty gulch]

Wowhead says 355 regular gear 340 azerite

[frosty wedge]

ah, so it does

[mighty gulch]

Make a ticket?

[frosty wedge]

I would - doubt they'll help, but hopefully if enough people report bugge dshit they'll figure it out

I'm still super salty about getting the same exact piece 2 weeks in a row.

[modern brook]

370 DC's

ezpz what yall bitching about

[outer dew]

well, finally got a weapon for prot, jist missing a shield

[stuck oxide]

Does Resounding protection azerite trait stack ? and how does it

[outer dew]

340 shield memes

[mighty gulch]

im still using ilvl 300 shield and sword

[obtuse venture]

i got a 380 rezan trinket from my cache. it says warforged but arent all 10 aches suppose to be 380 anyway?

[mighty gulch]

most of my gear is 355+

[mighty gulch]

Need

I had to buy a 300 shield from the ah because I got no bossdrops

[ebon hound]

I know that feel.

trying to tank the first week of mythics with a 266 green shield

uff

[junior ivy]

everytone is looking for 1k io for =10s

+10s

why

[mighty gulch]

Bc it's their precious +10 key