360 for sure
#protection
grim prism
chilly brook
Keep 360
final mist
Secondaries don't outweigh primaries.
knotty ermine
Riot shield brotato
limber perch
literally no reason to ever take lower on shield
grim prism
Block >>>>>> all
chilly brook
Ilvl>everything on Shield
sick sentinel
thanks 😄
chilly brook
Higher Block is important
static pilot
ever tried to bake a cake in an electric oven but the power got cut halfway through?
chilly brook
What do you mean?
static pilot
it's a metaphor for the design process of prot warrior during the beta 😃
chilly brook
Can’t say that’s untrue
static pilot
basically they got halfway to where they wanted it to be and ran out of time
so what we got is half-baked
knotty ermine
I mean technically, depending on the cake and the quality of the oven, the cake would probably be fine
if only slightly undercooked
marble pelican
i'm sorry did someone say cake?
knotty ermine
and yes I am a b l a s t at parties
static pilot
fine?
valid gorge
depends on the cake's build and gear
static pilot
valid gorge
D:
limber perch
but they're selling 5 star cakes in the same shop at the same price
sick sentinel
my warrior's name means cake in danish so that is pretty accurate (Kage)
valid gorge
I was confused
weak zephyr
Hi cake
wide juniper
Why the fuck is the PepeGCD emote not allowed here of all places?
limber perch
weak zephyr
Wait is the Pepe emote not allowed?
valid gorge
that' s the beautifull thing about chocolate baking
knotty ermine
Blame the hacker known as 4chin
valid gorge
a failed cake is a moeuilleux or a browny
sick sentinel
wait I have another gear question
valid gorge
D:
knotty ermine
Exactly @valid gorge
final mist
Marok doesn't like fun, so he doesn't allow external emotes.
valid gorge
conclusion: we are brownies
sick sentinel
wide juniper
But PepeGCD...
static pilot
wide juniper
We have 2 cat emotes.
static pilot
the frosting aint chocolate
final mist
Those are server-specific emotes.
valid gorge
azerothian champion seems better in every way on first sight
weak zephyr
wide juniper
Tell Marok times are a changin'
valid gorge
the helm i mean
wide juniper
:moon2A:
sick sentinel
AZ veins or ablative shielding
knotty ermine
I want to say azerothian champ
wide juniper
I'll :moon2A: him all day.
static pilot
aaaand now I'm hungry 🍰
limber perch
resounding protection is probably the deciding factor
argument for both veins and plating
knotty ermine
Didn't you start this whole cake thing? YouPlayedYourself.gif
limber perch
but t3 on the other ones is dogshit
valid gorge
what addon is that btw that show the ilvl in a big font on the slot
i've seen it so many times
but it's not in elvui afaik?
sick sentinel
I do not use elvui
final mist
Deja Character Stats.
valid gorge
no i know but I do
sick sentinel
^^
final mist
It reworks the character sheet to be more like what it used to be, pre-Legion.
valid gorge
i'll check it out thanks
knotty ermine
Many options for what to show/hide as well
chilly brook
It’s a nice addon
knotty ermine
Basically unprunes blizzard's pruning
valid gorge
is it easily combined with elvui?
final mist
Yes.
valid gorge
it should be from the looks of it
primal crypt
weak zephyr
chilly brook
Impassive is probably better for a tank tbh
Shield would obviously be better for DPS where you can avoid a lot of damage
Impassive basically sheds 3k off like every third auto
static pilot
the shield is attractive as DPS since you're less likely to constantly take damage (and it has certain other issues, like interacting with things) but Impassive is better if you expect to take constant damage
knotty ermine
I'd take veins/resounding over of the ablative and impassive on that other piece, but honestly those two pieces are so close to each other I dont believe you will notice a difference between the two.
static pilot
like on Vectis
knotty ermine
Reason being that the armor granted from ablative is useless on magic, the other setup is going to work in all situations.
But again, those two pieces are so close, I don't think there's a wrong answer.
merry cave
Good lord doing keys this week in bfa's tightly packed dungeons is the first time since tomb i dont want to play my war
hexed geyser
chilly brook
What’re your other options?
sick sentinel
the flat str is good
knotty ermine
@merry cave bring a monk and tell them to spec RoP. It's a barricade in almost every hall of bfa dungeons.
chilly brook
Then yea prolly
knotty ermine
The level of cheese enabled by RoP is ridiculous.
merry cave
Yeah would of if one was around, but its the first week ive really felt far inferior to my dk and dh and im usualy the first to defend war
cinder bridge
dhs get smashed too tbh
knotty ermine
Ahh yeah, it definitely feels bad without some assist from your group, for sure
Flex on that intercept key bb
knotty ermine
and you know... make sure at least your healer (or some ranged person) knows to be a good intercept target for you lol
chilly brook
I love intercepting to some ranged DPS that’s near the cudgel drop point on taloc makes them flip out so hard
They’re always so worried
knotty ermine
Lol
chilly brook
I’m a mean man
knotty ermine
Spamming heroic throw in taunt windows this week feels solid though tbh
keen spire
lol I did that to my warlock last night
knotty ermine
hell it doesn't feel terrible outside of them either, honestly
chilly brook
I use heroic throw all the time
knotty ermine
yerp
I guess this week is making me appreciate it more, since before I didn't really have to watch threat plates nearly as much from range, etc.
chilly brook
Until my dumb fury warrior decides heroic throw means charge in 😑
knotty ermine
Bombing mobs with throw that are getting nuked by dps and barely seeing the threat meter shift
feelsgoodman
Lol ya thats a tough one. Always DH that do that for me
even when you say "pulling this back"
or
"LoS pull"
no means yes, and all that.
torn gulch
I really hope 8.1 will be kind to prot warriors because otherwise I have to think about bringing other tanks to 120
chilly brook
If I open with heroic throw chances are I’m trying to los or reposition
torn gulch
And I love my orc shieldbearer
knotty ermine
to be fair, DH have sacrificed everything, so I need to cut them some slack
limber perch
the los pull is a lost art
chilly brook
They sacrifice their life everytime they run in when I’m LoSing
digital arrow
lol i thought i was the only one
why is it every time u try to LOS the party stands way in front
herp
keen spire
communication
chilly brook
Gotta los when you lack grip
digital arrow
i've asked the question "can i LOS back here guys please"
keen spire
"Hey guys, stand over here on this world marker. I will pull the adds to you so you can do big dick aoe dps"
knotty ermine
What I have noticed, at least this week, is this scenario cropping up far too often: 4 of 5 members hugging a wall to skip a certain pack, when suddenly, the mage decides to blink to the middle of the hallway"
sick sentinel
dude I los pull everything
keen spire
DPS need their hands held dawg
sick sentinel
skittish week was hell for me
unkempt fox
so guys are we doomed to use 340 piece with deafening clash or am i missing something?
knotty ermine
"Bro why you standing over there TANK HELLO"
"oh idk, I just like tanking stuff behind this trashcan, no particular reason"
keen spire
LOL
torn gulch
vov more or less
grim prism
My favorite
sick sentinel
except if you are a lucky ass
torn gulch
bepends if you are lucky on caches
chilly brook
Until you get lucky with the cache or you get the conquest shoulders @unkempt fox
sick sentinel
and get DC on your chest
grim prism
Is when ranged actually TELLS you to LoS
digital arrow
and then when the pull gets fucked up, and u get another pack because you had to move up and steal aggro
torn gulch
I want a 385 freehold head
digital arrow
then the groups like You SUck
grim prism
And then stands in the open and gets casted on
torn gulch
to actually use other shoulders
keen spire
@digital arrow if they're telling you that you suck after that, they probably don't understand tanking lol
unkempt fox
@chilly brook can you elaborate on the shoulders? i there a way to get them that do not involve rng?
chilly brook
Yes do rated pvp
keen spire
^
digital arrow
feels bad
wild bolt
It's so funny how we can all look at the same key and have totally different reactions. I look at Teeming/Quaking and think "Sweet, we can push this week" whereas last week I tried to just stay out as much as humanly possible. I'm sure it's far far worse if you're playing above a +10, but to me this definitely looks like a nice break from the horrors of the 1st 2 M+ weeks.
limber perch
last week was pretty nice tbh
torn gulch
I am more or less skipping this week already had disgusting experiences
wild bolt
Ugh...I haaaate Skittish weeks. Couldn't bring myself to last week.
inner trail
last week was absolutely free affixes besides tyrannical
knotty ermine
@wild bolt true. I was in love with last week, as it was pretty much a godsend for me (and I assume most prot warrs) since skittish is basically nonexistent
inner trail
probably easiest possible combination
knotty ermine
aye
digital arrow
guys i've a noob question dont laugh: does me having a regen spell on me mid-pull generate more threat to the healer who put the regen on me? or does it not matter like it matters in final fantasy 14?
keen spire
well it was nice after fortified sanguine lol
torn gulch
skittish is ok if you can coordinate with dps to contain themselves
limber perch
cant wait to get curbstomped by sanguine again in tiny hallways
chilly brook
The ice world boss also drops DC shoulders @unkempt fox
sick sentinel
skittish as a warrior is really fine
wild bolt
Really? I roll with this Arms/Ret combo that pretty much did ll the tanking for me last week. Fort/Sang in Waycrest though has been the worst experience of the new M+ for me.
chilly brook
But he’s not up this week
digital arrow
in ff14, when u'd charge in while regen was on u, mobs would ignore u and walk straight to healer. bad healers regen tanks before pulls in that game
keen spire
that's not the case in wow, pocky
knotty ermine
@wild bolt base your pulls around Avatar to warm yourself up to the affix, and I think you'll quikcly find how much of a joke the affix is for protw
inner trail
if you have problems with skittish you need to fix your rotation, unless you have some monster top tier dps in which case get a rogue or hunter
uneven mason
@limber perch Sanguine requires you to master the art of backpulling and back pedaling
unkempt fox
@chilly brook i got the shoulders with 3 very good traits from arathi WB so probably not worth replacing them
digital arrow
thanks blob
keen spire
healers generate threat, but it's so minimal that you could just auto attack and regain it
astral crystal
lol you will lose aggro to an arms mongoloid bladestorming when your avatar isnt u
guaranteed
up&
chilly brook
I mean it’s worth replacing for DC to replace whatever 340 DC piece you have @unkempt fox
uneven mason
Why wouldn't avatar be up every time their bladestorm is up?
knotty ermine
@uneven mason Sanguine also makes you master the art of checking your dps and making sure they arent rolling with passive slows (looking at you, rogue with crippling poison)
inner trail
if your arms is 3x low bladestorming then yeah he has to wait
unkempt fox
brace for impact , azerite veins and impassive visage, and they are 370 @chilly brook
chilly brook
It’d be an overall ilvl increase
wild bolt
It's actually up more often than Bladestorm is, but that' s the problem, it gets desynchronized
uneven mason
Carnivale - My favorite was the warlocks who kept stunning shit in pools, and in doorways, and then killing said stunned mob in the doorway
inner trail
since his low can crit for like 100k or whatever
uneven mason
so we had to walk through the sanguine
nothing oike making your healer drink twice between pulls
keen spire
omfg @knotty ermine @uneven mason yeah dude.. the number of times I had to say "guys stop stunning the mobs in the sanguine pools, it heals them if they stand in them"
knotty ermine
Honestly though, soon as your group figures out that a pack dying at the same time basically removes Sanguine as an affix, that week becomes butter as well
chilly brook
Like I said it’s better to replace your lowest DC trait with a higher ilvl DC even if it means not using your 370 shoulders
wild bolt
100% true @knotty ermine
keen spire
^
chilly brook
In your case it’ll likely be shoulders with DC helmet from mother with BFI and the chest from another boss from Uldir with archive
knotty ermine
Other niche stuff too, like, knowing which mobs are a pain in the ass to move Sanguine week (since we dont have the luxury of grip)
keen spire
@chilly brook all this indicates to me that DC is super boned when 8.1 rolls out
knotty ermine
Like the snipers/marksmen in Siege, for example. Basically, hard to move targets are the ones you want to kill first, if you group isn't swapping around to kill everything at the same time.
unkempt fox
like prot were not fucked before, lets not put the bis trait in raid gosh
chilly brook
@keen spire you’d think so but they didn’t nerf it this patch
Unlike everyone else’s broken trait
limber perch
if they dont change it you actually just have to get lucky from chest at some point
wild bolt
@chilly brook I was a little surprised by that myself.
chilly brook
If they nerf DC that severely hurts prot period
keen spire
sup ravnu
keen spire
Yeah, the uptime on DS is like.. crucial
limber perch
maybe put a cap on it of between 30-40sec
iron grove
Old player back to the frame
uneven mason
yeah there is a really big difference between DS being up nearly all the time and DS not up
torn gulch
I have a feeling prot warriors will be nerfed even more
knotty ermine
If anything I would bet they cap the max extend on DS, but leave the dmg component the same, which is still nice for tps. Nerfing DC would be a huge dickpunch to a class that is already looking to be in line for positive changes
chilly brook
^
keen spire
I don't feel like they've been nerfed much at all @torn gulch
iron grove
I playd from vanilla to cata.. and know for some reason.. i can´t hold aggro anymore on BFA
can i get some help?
chilly brook
Like as it is currently with the way everything is interacting with prot its an uneasy balance
uneven mason
Make DC 1 second - increase DS base uptime to 15 seconds, leave CD the same.
limber perch
@iron grove give em the clap
uneven mason
nerf BV to 10% damage
knotty ermine
But if you look at their nerfs to traits so far, almost all of them have been due to how broken they are in PVP environments
uneven mason
👏
keen spire
@iron grove Thunderclap the shit out of all dem mofos
torn gulch
tell that to peeps that decline prot warriors in m+ and raids
solid mist
lol
wild bolt
Does anyone still think there's any chance we might eventually see whatever IP replacement they were working on pre-launch?
solid mist
"no we are fine really"
chilly brook
Because everything about us synergizes so well we’re viable, you pull one piece and we fall
solid mist
😦
knotty ermine
so I wouldn't put very much stock in "x class got these nerfs but we haven't, why"
torn gulch
I don't mind I played prot warrior even if we were scrapping the bottom of the barrel
errant thorn
God, I wish Prot would just get deleted already...
keen spire
Just start your own M+
chilly brook
@wild bolt prolly
digital arrow
why deleted? 😦
chilly brook
Well then....
iron grove
But, what happend? I want to understand.. everything changed so bad. i feel like a noob now
modern brook
@keen spire that works until your key stops being atal dazar
chilly brook
Can’t tell if troll or serious
final mist
@errant thorn how does it feel to do less DPS than your leader who is a Prot warrior?
keen spire
@modern brook Do what I did and start your own guild - then you've got a bunch of people you can round up to clear whatever you want
errant thorn
@final mist I wouldn't know
unkempt fox
u put his health to 0 @limber perch
chilly brook
@iron grove what do you mean?
digital arrow
wow
limber perch
ty
solid mist
Start your own guild and fill it with nothing but wars, spriests, and shamans
torn gulch
I mean prot warriors are dying the most in ULDIR and have the lowest representations among tanks in higher m+
uneven mason
Call it "The Outsiders"
iron grove
@chilly brook they changed the threat generation or somenthing?
unkempt fox
anyone here farmed those conquest shoulders or is that just a myth?
modern brook
it went from 900% to 350%
chilly brook
Oh boy here comes that metric again
torn gulch
from 900 to 350% ravnuslock
chilly brook
@iron grove yes they changed threat
modern brook
unless you fall asleep every 3rd global you shouldnt be dropping aggro
chilly brook
Your damage done matters much more now
digital arrow
yeah @raven kernel me too! congrats on that
raven kernel
iron grove
Kiting now is hard.
raven kernel
grats all ya undergeared bois
iron grove
@raven kernel grats
digital arrow
oh
chilly brook
So therefor a nerf to DC is a nerf to our ability to generate threat and we already deal less single target damage than other tanks in my experience
brazen sequoia
These affixes really hurt this weeks m+--- 365 prot warr, getting almost 1shot by trash in underrot 7 with Ignore Pain, Shield Block and Bandage trinket active 😒
limber perch
just titanforge it with socket and avoidance
digital arrow
lol i was thinking u were referring to the mythic emissary weekend cache woops
keen spire
@iron grove You shouldn't really need to kite much in most situations. You should default to using your toolkit to reduce incoming damage before just turning tail and running away. What's your ilvl?
iron grove
@limber perch hold aggro on the guy, watch out for cleave, and never let him on your team
limber perch
teeming fortified is a bad time to be sure
iron grove
or they will wipte
vivid sage
@keen spire kiting is a common strat in M+
digital arrow
my oh shit button is heroic leap
brazen sequoia
I mean Teeming is fine, but with Fortified it's hell
wild bolt
Depends @chilly brook . I have to hold way back when OT'ing in Uldir to not rip aggro from our DK tank on Taloc, Mother & Fetid. The only ones I can't seem to pull off of w/out taunting on a regular basis are DH. I'd say other than that our ST damage is pretty on point (in my experience.)
vivid sage
don't go into underrot if you dont have a shroud
keen spire
@vivid sage he's saying that he's come back from playing in cata - seems like he is not talking about M+
digital arrow
yeah i know fernan i've charged into packs with shield wall first lol
iron grove
@keen spire i´m doing M+ 8 already
modern brook
@wild bolt thats my experience too
iron grove
Sometimes I have to kite (it´s not usual
vivid sage
was kiting in raid ever really something?
chilly brook
But over the course of the fight our DK ends up being higher in damage for sure
modern brook
I have to pump the breaks in avatar when im not active tank
wild bolt
Yeah, anytime Avatar's up it's time for the kid gloves, heh.
vivid sage
i took a break after wotlk
keen spire
kiting in a raid is mechanic-specific
iron grove
but as I remember, it was easyer to hold.. My ILvl is 352 atm
keen spire
in Taloc, for example, you kite in P2 on the elevator
chilly brook
At least it’s not like legion though where I’m on average doing 400-500k more DPS than the average tank
wild bolt
Yep, it seems like damage is closer than its ever been
keen spire
@iron grove I misunderstood - are you talking about your ability to maintain aggro this week or last week?
wild bolt
Unless you're a bear, maybe.
modern brook
In legion, i played VDH and by the end of normal antorus i was able to maintain 900-1m dps avg in a raid environment
iron grove
@keen spire overall
vivid sage
i just mean if i saw someone say "kiting is hard", i'd pretty much assume they were talking about M+
chilly brook
Yea I did about 1.1m DPS ST on my BrM
vivid sage
nah dude this is the place @iron grove
iron grove
but.. like, everything changed since cata
wild bolt
No bother at all, @iron grove 😄
vivid sage
dont be sorry
modern brook
THe problem is like "do better" is sucha a broad topic we cant really give advice past "press your rotation, block the damage, dont die"
iron grove
it was like.. 8 years ago (add private ryan's gif)
wild bolt
So, when are you losing threat? Is it right at the start or is it a gradual thing over the course of a pull?
iron grove
@modern brook Ok, got it.. SO let me explain my situation.
I got my rotations right, BUT secondary mobs (no the one I´m hiting) lose threat like ez (when I got my thunderclap on cd)
modern brook
How early into the pull is that happening
iron grove
I tend to keep my aim on those I have to interrupt
wild bolt
Ahh, ok. You want to cycle your targets then.
final mist
remember that you can HL to reset taunt
keen spire
You want to cycle through them with your shield slam and devastate
limber perch
rotation : 😡 👏 😱 👏 👏
iron grove
HL ?
sick sentinel
still trying to make my group hold back their stuns for actual casts.
keen spire
heroic leap
digital arrow
i forgot about that!!
wild bolt
Heroic Leap
final mist
and tab target shit to spread threat more
digital arrow
ty sal
sick sentinel
particularly ones that cant regular be interrupted.
iron grove
OH
sick sentinel
s'what I do w/ shockwave/stormbolt/warstomp
iron grove
SO leap generate lots of threat now?
modern brook
no
sick sentinel
no.
chilly brook
Wait you can actually reset taunt by using leap?
modern brook
you taunt, leap and leap resets taunt
limber perch
yes
chilly brook
Huh I learned something new
digital arrow
oh i also fear in last resort, it helps me buy a couple of seconds too
then TC is back up
dark junco
@vivid sage Kiting the spider in SSC
wild bolt
Yeah the taunt reset is nice.
modern brook
but leap also does damage so it does generate threat
wild bolt
Yep, and it's aoe
modern brook
which is sometihng
dark junco
On lady vasjh
digital arrow
gonna start leaping in my rotation
wild bolt
HL + TC is a good start to a pull
modern brook
prolly not enough if you're losing aggro but eh
iron grove
got it
vivid sage
i know you kited things but it was a specific mechanic every now and then
modern brook
Unless you're chain pulling i dont think you should ever open with HL
astral crystal
@shut summit 8.1 spoilers when
dark junco
I use leap sometimes on big adds to reset taunt on 2nd dude
wild bolt
Especially if you don't need rage from Intercepting
modern brook
intercept rage is super important
knotty ermine
@iron grove without something specific to discuss, the best broad advice I can give on playing Prot well is to maintain the habit of being most knowledgeable person in the group about the particular encounter/dungeon. Specifically, ProtW shines brightest by knowing what's coming and planning ahead with their abilities. If you get behind, your healer gets far behind, and the group is about to have a really bad and stressful time.
sick sentinel
avatar pre-pull + HL + tclap
cinder bridge
why does leap reset taunt? 😮
sick sentinel
nice aoe start.
dark junco
But like kiting is usually TBC mechcNics
limber perch
@cinder bridge it just works - Todd Howard
dark junco
I often taunt +leap-charge tho
sick sentinel
to get 30ish rage before avatar + leap.
iron grove
@knotty ermine I´m studing and learning all I can.. I always was that person.. but.. since it´s all "new" for me.. I´m having a hard time atm
lost mauve
knotty ermine
Leap/clap is great until you get into an aussie server group and clap keeps going off midair because yolo
modern brook
If you're fighting 2 large guys, like bears before first boss in Dark Heart Thicket (irrelevent content, but its the scenario so whatever), taunt your off target, charge the main, and tclap
dark junco
Omg #Hoping
keen spire
@iron grove You'll get it, bud. There's a lot to take in, but it all starts to make sense as you go.
iron grove
@sick sentinel I charge and tc to start a pull all the time
dark junco
Kelthuzad?
iron grove
@keen spire thanks bud
knotty ermine
@iron grove It'll be gravy once you get the hang of it. I'd say stick with it since your attitude towards it already appears an order of magnitude better than most people's approach to the spec haha.
dark junco
I also tend to stay off Nemesis, Tolbarad, Ragnaros and another one, no idea why tho 🤔🙄
keen spire
Honestly though, you guys can use Charge - TC - Rev and the whole pack will be stuck to you for like 5 globals lol
dark junco
Not with DH or Arms
iron grove
@knotty ermine fun fact.. Prot warrior.. it´s the only class I played since vanilla... i love being a warrior tank
knotty ermine
Oh, and one more thing. Use WAs if you aren't, and make a WA to yell at you for casting shield block during LS in an "oh shit" moment. It will break the habit before it has a chance to form ;P
dark junco
Pretty much have to ask them to tab target or get ready to soak a few hits
vivid sage
as long as i have avatar i never have problems with threat
dark junco
Yeah
iron grove
@vivid sage true
lament quail
@knotty ermine Great idea 😛
dark junco
But on lower keys you wont get it back for next pull
vivid sage
if he wants to CS-Bladestorm afteer charging he better have a paladin friend
chilly brook
I mean trust me when I say monk is fun
digital arrow
hell yeah @iron grove i've only ever played prot. high five
keen spire
On the next pull, they won't have their burst @dark junco
dark junco
I have more issues on lower than high keys, since high keys pulls takes more time
iron grove
@digital arrow SWEET
knotty ermine
@dark junco You got it all wrong. You adjust the pulls to your avatar cycle, not the other way around
😛
dark junco
xD
knotty ermine
Don't have it up for the next pull? Means you've graduated and can pull 2 packs now.
dark junco
3h +10s lol
We’re depleting 9s and 8s this week i’m sad
And the 14 we have is a waycrest
Gonna be a 12h dungeon lol
digital arrow
you guys really wait for avatar to pull? i'm always trying to pull in a hurry so sometimes i cant wait 😦
keen spire
I do not, Pock
digital arrow
but most times its up
modern brook
He's saying that you should be pulling so that your avatar cd ends once the pack dies
keen spire
plus, as long as you have AM and you're using your rage, even if you don't start the pull with avatar, it should be off cd within a few seconds anyway
digital arrow
yeah thats usually the case with me
knotty ermine
@digital arrow nah, Once I start seeing how quickly things are dying, I just keep adding to the pull count so that Av is up every pull, basically
chilly brook
Wut
knotty ermine
not the pushing keys strat, but the 6-7s strat
chilly brook
25 second CD 🤔
keen spire
and if your dps is so trigger-happy that they can't resist blowing their load on a pull that you might struggle with aoe threat, they deserve to die, imo
limber perch
ayo this guy spending 80 rage per secnd
dark junco
We need a new azerite traits
knotty ermine
eatin beans and spending 80 rage/s
dark junco
Each TClap enhance the duration of avatar for 1 sec
limber perch
"He prot war"
chilly brook
Hahahahaha
dark junco
Imma rename myself to Thor lawl
chilly brook
That would be hilarious @dark junco
iron grove
I've been using avatar on CD, but i dont wait for it to starts pull
dark junco
And I’ll do m+ with “Thunderstruck” playing in loops
mellow bridge
That with DC
chilly brook
Lol
mellow bridge
would be so fkin broken lmao
dark junco
Thats a proper Tier 22 =p
digital arrow
im starting to see just how important it is to generate more rage to spend it asap, hopefully get avatar back up asap too. gonna start randomly charging to teammates during mythics when i can for that sweet rage bonus
knotty ermine
I am ok with trigger happy dps, as it pushes me to be better. Derp dps that ignore mechanics are far more annoying to me than tryhards flexin their deeps switch
dark junco
“and are you Thor god of hammer?”
chilly brook
@digital arrow wronk
dark junco
xD
keen spire
nah nah - each TC extends DS like it does now, but then each revenge proc extends avatar - 2cds used and you pull the whole dungeon nonstop
chilly brook
You don’t want to spend it as soon as possible
dark junco
^
chilly brook
You want to spend it when needed and when it’ll cap you
chilly brook
You don’t lose any value from AM if you have 40 rage and don’t press IP until you’re at 90 rage for example
knotty ermine
Have enough rage so you can use the abilities you need the moment you need them, dump off the excess into making dps classes feel bad about getting rekt by a prot warrior
digital arrow
lol yes
knotty ermine
WAs helps with getting that habit formed btw
chilly brook
You basically just want to be able to use a defensive ability when you need to
knotty ermine
Eventually it becomes automatic, but WAs helps with the learning curve significantly
sick sentinel
is there any point logging M+? my exorsus raid tools does it automatically
knotty ermine
well
there are few people logging m+
even fewer prot warrs
flex on them rankings bb
mellow bridge
this is where I'd use a dab emote if they weren't disabled here :/
marble pelican
I can't play a prot warrior, i'm unsubbing fuck this game....:)
just kidding of course i'm bored at work
digital arrow
hahahaha
grim prism
If you want to review your mistakes and get better then why woundnt you log @sick sentinel?
digital arrow
i think we had our daily troll earlier
grim prism
Conversely, if you dont read your logs then why even log them?
knotty ermine
Got into an argument with a RL friend, no bullshit, over the fact that I use details and log, and those things "aren't needed to be better"
marble pelican
lol, ive never read logs, i guess maybe i should
prisma crane
to argue semantics, they arent needed to be "better" but they sure as shit help a whole lot
chilly brook
TBH though they are needed
prisma crane
and how much better, if he wants to get 2% better, na, not needed
actually better, def
grim prism
Its like an athlete watching a video of their game to review
Except with a fat neckbeard instead of an athlete
knotty ermine
This is a guy btw that was a 99%er mythic raiding rogue for a few years. But the basis of his argument was "if you are executing your rotation perfectly, what could a log tell you? If you aren't executing perfectly, you would know that without a log"
chilly brook
It’s much more than that
prisma crane
there's just too many things we cant feasibly pay attention to
knotty ermine
I was so far beyond perplexed when I realized he we completely serious, lol.
chilly brook
It’s like an athlete actually timing themselves etc. and pushing themselves and having the tools to actually see it they can measure up to the competition
Instead of showing up to the competition and getting smoked
grim prism
Right, there's a difference between "noticing you did something wrong" and understanding exactly why it happened and how to fix it
Logs allow you to do the latter
grim prism
@manic sentinel welcome to 8.0
limber perch
i've been removed a couple times after being invited
probably because one of his friends read dem there prot warriors no good
manic sentinel
only time i have trouble in high keys is w/ disc priests. holy pallys, resto sham, holy priest... w/e, they all keep me above 80% np in most cases. prob just bad luck on the disc priests ive gotten, but either way, they act like prot just cant do it
solid mist
"apparently they have to like... know what the enemy abilities are.. and get this, use things pre-emptively" "ugh fuck that get a brewmaster"
limber perch
i feel like most disc is just dpsing all the time
yeah my smite heals you for 5k man
dont worry
manic sentinel
lol
idk im considering rolling brewmaster til 8.1 drops. at least i can get in groups a bit more quickly that way
knotty ermine
I just chalked his argument/viewpoint up to the same way I view studying. All through school I was in AP/GT classes graduated with honors and never studied a day in my life, get to college and struggling with a statistics class. "You should study" "WotHow.gif" Just something that never entered his mind as necessary or beneficial I guess
limber perch
definition of 2cool4school
random galleon
whew same carnivale, are you me
modern brook
on the real
steel mauve
Im pretty sure disc priests just arent a good match up to heal us, ive had good disc priests from my guild heal me in 5 mans and i didnt feel great about it
peak compass
360 haste/versa vs 370 crit/mastery? Guide says 370 always, but its basically best stats vs worst stats
modern brook
for what slot?
peak compass
Rings. 28 stam difference
marble pelican
my thing is i have no idea how to read them...yes i suck, and what add on is used to register them
knotty ermine
Protip for getting into mythic pugs, apply and get accepted as DPS, change your role after entering the group
Lifehax
jagged bay
hi
marble pelican
i'm 348 atm, whats the max M+ for me to tank efficiently
modern brook
I did +4's at +2 when i was high 340
primal crypt
@marble pelican probably +15
modern brook
I suck, so you should be able to do something similar if not better
old zephyr
I think the key is for you and you healer to get to know each other.
At the beginingy druid friends were like "Man healing you is so hard" 1 few runs latter it was "okay you go pull all this crap mean while i'm gonnadrink"
marble pelican
@modern brook you were high and 340 or high 340's? 😃
knotty ermine
@modern brook Let's just call it God's/FSM's cruel joke, also known as Dyscalculia. Basically numeric dyslexia.
modern brook
@marble pelican 34x; I jumped when i upgraded my shield from a 288 -> 345 so idr what the last digit was, @knotty ermine I was mostly joking, lol
marble pelican
yeah we are finishing up my basement where my office is atm, so i'm stuck to a lap top for now. probably be 2 months before i'm back to my pc
modern brook
Also it was Atal'dazar, if dungeon matters to you
If you're joining stuff, I'd just spam atal for gear
marble pelican
i don't like to raid on anything but my PC. it just give me more freedoms
knotty ermine
348 is gonna have a bad time this week, but I would suspect you'd be fine with 5s. Not sure I would push above 7s unless you're feeling stronk, just because your healer is going to be needing to focus you pretty intently, and DPS going full "diferently abled" will draw the healer's globals and can nuke a key rather quickly.
Like @modern brook said though, I would just spam AD.
manic sentinel
the silenece from (teeming?) make it a bit tougher in combination with the constant aoe damage as well
astral crystal
quaking
marble pelican
awesome, i do appreciate it. the only downside is having to talk to people over headset i hate that poop
manic sentinel
yeah quaking
knotty ermine
When you're legitimately pushing up and fine-tuning your gear there are only like... 3 items in there you wouldn't consider an upgrade. at 348 literally any item that drops from there will be great for you.
manic sentinel
last week was def a good time to grind out some higher keys, much easier
young harbor
this week is aids on toast
chilly brook
I miss anything?
knotty ermine
Only thing I hated about last week pushing up keys is that some bosses were absolute brick walls.
steel lotus
i loved the slam jam 2 matron befouled pull in underrot makes me want to die
fuckin teeming fort
modern brook
tree soul boss in waycrest fuking destroyed me last week
old zephyr
Avatar intensify
manic sentinel
we lost a chest in tos on a +8 bc there were like 5 guardians in the room snatching the orb
was like whaaat the fuck
lol
knotty ermine
DPS insisting on pullin ticks makes me hate underrot far more than anything
I actually really like that dungeon
steel lotus
god the ticks truck
old zephyr
Guardians in ToS are à joke as protwar
steel lotus
was doing a shrine and the big boy tentacles the dark ritualist spawns was hitting for like 55k a piece
with a quaking 1 shot our dps
knotty ermine
Underrot is lovely. Is it because I like reflecting huge blood bolts to the first boss? Or perhaps because handling mushrooms almost completely solo on the 3rd boss makes me feel like a god? Maybe it's because I get to spam victory rush like an absolute madman on the final boss? The answer is D) all of the above.
manic sentinel
@steel lotus yeah cant you skip that part though?
steel lotus
yeah chose to do that later didnt realize how fucked it would be tho
also the non rezan path in atal is dead
2 voodoo guardians in a pack of 5 yikes
marble pelican
is ToS the dungeon with the first boss the 2 guys with the lightning shield? If so i was on a +3 or 4 there and left, the dps wouldn't switch targets and kept getting destroyed from the LS and then blaming me for not taking agro....
manic sentinel
yeah that happens a lot in lower keys
knotty ermine
@steel lotus bring a brez or ankh of some kind to shrine when pushing high keys. That last room before the bridge, where the 2 guys spawn tons of tentacles, you can huge the right wall and ignore them entirely, then get on the bridge. Once there, mount up and run to the room with all the little tentacles right before second to last boss
mellow bridge
@knotty ermine how do you handle the shrooms by yourself?
just run through em with IP and SR?
knotty ermine
Die, rez up the group, and continue. Eel packs give gobs of % but you should be nearly complete by that point anyway.
steel lotus
but what about the ritualist on bridge lol with all the aids guys thought you couldnt finish without one of those packs
knotty ermine
@mellow bridge his shockwave has a ridiculous arc to it, you can clear out at least 1/4 to 1/3rd of the present shrooms with one slam, and he generally slams 2 times between each harvest
mellow bridge
yeah I use the shockwave but I only manage to clear like half at best
knotty ermine
Make sure your group stays directly behind the boss, move him incrementally while also popping a few shrooms on yourself (fewer ofc on tyrannical, but you can still take a couple on your own)
Paint diagram inc
mellow bridge
I love paint diagrams
marble pelican
So whats your worst experience as a tank since launch of BFA? Mine is and always will be the Hybrid DPS, that think they can dps and that helps more than actually healing in mythics, so they'll queue Healing, then dps and spot heal...usually 1-3 wipes
old zephyr
Jes
floral tinsel
Feel really sad about my chest, I am not even sure if its good
mellow bridge
My chest was okay
got 380 since I did +10
but was only 10 ilvl upgrade and I have other slots where I would have needed an upgrade way more
like rings or trinkets
floral tinsel
gz, I am not that good yet.. mostly getting carried by a friend that got me into WoW just recently... but he does not really knwo the prot warrior class that well, so I wanted to ask you guys if that trinket is an actual upgrade to anything I have?
mellow bridge
Vial is a good trinket but I'm not sure about which 2 are the best
floral tinsel
okay, so its at least not bad 😄
Ill prob just swap it for Jes then just to get more Ilevel so people will take me in their pugs 😛
stiff lance
Equal ilvl is Jes or rezans trink better
marble pelican
how much was that darkmooon trinket?
mellow bridge
you can keep it in your inventory for ilvl
manic sentinel
I think Jes howler and blockades are BiS for where you're at, but the iLvl upgrade on the vial is pretty big
solid mist
~27k on my server last I checked. as such I'm still rocking a generic 325 trinket
floral tinsel
I got tired of repair costs, so i bought a wow token.. spent it on a shield and trinket upgrade as they fucking never drop.. gave 30k for the Darkmoon one
mellow bridge
accoridng to Icy veins
you should take vial over jes
because of the ilvl difference being that big
manic sentinel
damn, Blockades is going for 18k on my server
floral tinsel
ahh thanks 😄
mellow bridge
"If you have a Jes' Howler Icon Jes' Howler, and you can obtain one of the above alternatives at a significantly higher item level compared to it (say, 15+ item levels), then use that alternative instead."
merry cave
just get a 380 big red button, its pretty good 😛
manic sentinel
@stiff lance I think it depends on what you're running into. More survival off Jess and more threat off rezans
floral tinsel
nice.. I had one of those at a much lower ilevel .. its the one that blows up stuff in AOE right?
knotty ermine
Underrot: Charge in and face boss immediately away from grp (he will be anyway because thats just what happens, probably), clear A shrooms by yourself, clear B with slam1, clear C by yourself, clear D with slam 2, and your group will be handling E and any others that may crop up along the path, but aren't many. Just make sure they know to stay behind the boss, and that they need to pop whichever come up after he's already slammed
its not a hardfast rule for who handles those zone, moreso just chew off as much of the circle with slam positioning as you can, soak as many as you/your healer are comfortable with between slams, and the dps with the targeted thing can handle, easily, the shrooms that remain or pop up behind the boss after he's already slammed and you've moved him
But in practice, you can account for almost all the mushrooms by yourself this way.
I've seen many pugs that just hold the boss in the middle and turn him for slams, and it is so much more stressful on the group and healer that way.
floral tinsel
👍
steel lotus
Harder to coordinate with dps too
grim prism
I dont tank in the middle but being near the middle gets you the most clearing on shockwaves (the arc of the frontal is longer than the axis it is cast on)
knotty ermine
Also reduces stess on the heals since dps shouldnt be eating shrooms and all they gotta heal through is the mountain of spores the dps will inevitabley wander through
grim prism
Honestly as long as you pick a place to clear and hold him there, and DPS dont clear behind you like idiots, it should be easy
You can pop SR to clear out the couple that get missed
Just have to pick your zone early and dont move him at all
And hopefully communicate. Lol
knotty ermine
Keeps him close to center to maximize the arc of slam, but also you gotta be out there popping shrooms so he inevitably moves away from center
chilly brook
I need to make a prot warrior paint meme
grim prism
I made some MS Paint strats for 8.2
Those were the days m80
I wonder if i still have my skorp diagram
astral crystal
idk if that changed
yesterday's fixes included a change in how mushrooms spawn on that boss
chilly brook
Do you have avatar? If yes Thunderclap if no Thunderclap anyways
grim prism
i found my Maw of Souls glitch diagram lol
rain bridge
Hey bois, which trinkets would you use for 10+ M+ between 370 Jes, 385 rezan's eye and blockades ?
(That's a nice diagram)
grim prism
@rain bridge the two that arent blockades
knotty ermine
Oh hey speaking of glitches
Anyone else experiencing charge going off, but not actually charging a LOT
floral rock
^
knotty ermine
if there is basically any type of terrain change
rain bridge
Yeah
floral rock
or your pathing sends you through Albuquerque
chilly brook
No but I experience myself zig zagging in odd ways to charge to council boss in KR
grim prism
Do you use a macro on it
knotty ermine
On charge no, intervene, yes
grim prism
Yeah KR council has goofy hitbox. But at least its just them and not every boss like it was last expac
@knotty ermine yeah thats what ive seen as well
knotty ermine
I honestly don't recall the issue occuring with intervene other than wierd pathing
knotty ermine
Honestly it could be happening as prot, It is just far more aggravating as fury because it seems to happen when I pop reck and then charge, but charge goes off and doesn't actually send me in, and I have to spend 2 seconds of reck now running toward the boss or trash pack
and let me tell you
that feels AH-MAAAAAZING
astral crystal
ye
static pilot
a guildie got a titanforged 2h weapon from his m+ chest
astral crystal
that's always going to be the case, yes
refer to the ilvl rewards chart
the correspnding ilvl reward is taken as a bace
base*
and can still forge +10 ilvls
prisma crane
damn 1.8% on G'huun from method
keen spire
That's rough
light lake
If I don't have any of the uldir azerite trait(i.e. Archive, lazer matrix), do you guys think it's worth getting one over "Brace for impact"?
So I can pick between archive and brace for impact and I am unsure about which one to pick
brazen sequoia
ashvane chest from tol dagor, mother uldir headpiece and then ... eh.. freehold shoulders I think?
vagrant cape
as it's universal (raid and m+) and the reorigination isn't that high yet
grim prism
Does Archive stack stam or str for us?
solid mist
yeah, you gotta drop a cooking fire next to where you will tanking to really get the full effect
knotty ermine
Str btw
keen spire
lol thank god they decided that stam wasn't the RA stack
"Oh yeah.. tanks use stamina as their primary"
lol
stupid food buffs
stupid cauldrons
grim prism
Thank god
grim prism
Step one is to go to battle.net and open "accounr management"...
grim prism
something something unsub memes. No kick pls @mods
knotty ermine
Question before I give advice to a friendo- aside from hard hitters like thrash coming (which is a different issue altogether) when tanking it is better overall to let a SB charge go off completely before popping another, rather than potentially overlap, right? Was asked without being given specifics and it's kind of hard to answer, since, if it's an ability you would want to have 2 SBs back to back on, the moment between the two could possibly hurt like hell, but also if it's a long-term thing, you have more effective uptime by letting cast A complete it's duration before casting the second.
grim prism
@keen spire get a time machine back to 2014 i guess?
keen spire
If you layer them, Carnivale, they stack the duration up to a certain point
grim prism
@knotty ermine they dont overlap, they extend
keen spire
so it's not necessary to have them drop off before clicking again, to a certain extent
knotty ermine
The question was "is it better to let SB fall off before casting again, or should I overlap by a fraction of a second" but there wasn't any other info given, so I was going with iverlao/extend is the better choice
grim prism
Tell them it doesnt matter, it wont overlap
knotty ermine
Coolio thanks, just wanted a sanity checm
grim prism
Yerp
knotty ermine
Check**
keen spire
I had someone in my raid team admit to me that he was "a clicker" after I asked him why his dps was low
I told him to learn how to use hotkeys or he wasn't going to raid with us anymore
lol
final mist
The cap for SB extension is like 18 seconds or some shit, there's literally nothing to worry about for the duration - just capping charges.
knotty ermine
(side note: I'm far better at answering questions about specific moments/problems than speaking in general terms, lol)
dusk locust
we recently learned one of ours didn't know you could right-click and drag to turn the camera
knotty ermine
Thanks @final mist
grim prism
Keyboard turning is arguably worse than clicking lol
dusk locust
went 10/11M last tier keyboard turning
keen spire
how do you even..
knotty ermine
One of our hunters (of course) in wotlk was playing on a laptop touchpad
keen spire
what the shit
knotty ermine
Guys performance was generally solid so we always thought he was joking
grim prism
I mean if youre just positioning mobs and not doing a big move
Why strafe and risk an accidental back hit
Faster isnt always better
dusk locust
if i need to strafe i hold right click and hit a or d. i don't like the idea of changing a and d to be strafe only
knotty ermine
Get to LK, or maybe it was Blood prince, I can't recall, and the problem really showed itself
One of the "don't stand in that" Olympics fights in that raid
dusk locust
sometimes i gotta reposition something and scratch my nose at the same time ;P
potent peak
defile on lk
keen spire
I just have my q and e as strafe
dusk locust
that's shield slam and devastate for me
final mist
I unbound the keyboard-turnig keys years ago.
keen spire
I keep s bound to backpedal because of what balsaq said
final mist
Just W and S for forward / backwards, and strafing.
keen spire
sometimes it's best to backpedal if you don't need to gtfo out of a spot and you don't wanna take back hits
knotty ermine
Ahh man. Thats another thing for the pug highlight reel
dusk locust
backpedal is most useful for tanks imo, and sometimes backpedal speed is perfect for certain mechanics
like M spellblade
keen spire
shield slam is 2 for me
knotty ermine
"haha omg tank you're backpedaling? What a scrub"
dusk locust
if i gotta go fast i'll strafe back but often times backpedal i find better
uneven mason
🤔 keeping mobs in the "block arc" (in front of me) totally nub tactic
knotty ermine
Especially after blizzard changed mob pathing in 7.0 where they were constantly trying to step around behind you if your hit ox overlapped with theirs
uneven mason
If only we were all like DHs and took 80% of our health per melee round anyway no matter what direction we were facing
keen spire
honestly if it needs to be that fast, I generally just heroic leap directly behind me and then immediately right click-jiggle the camera so my dude faces the correct way again
uneven mason
oh that shit in 7.0 triggered me
knotty ermine
"yeah u right, I gotta l2p boss"
uneven mason
it was like every npc in the world suddenly became a rogue
grim prism
I got yelled at in NH for moving bosses too quickly
Ended up becoming a habitual backpedaler
knotty ermine
Yyyyyyyyep
uneven mason
I killed a DH on my first HC Fetid kill cause I Lept and the monk was like WAIT BRO I AINT THAT FAST
grim prism
WELL SOMEBODY HAS TO KICK THE DAMN ADD AND IF NOBODY IS OVER THERE THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU EXPECT GUYS
I miss raiding
keen spire
lol
knotty ermine
My turn coming up on kicking Vezax... Mouse battery dies. Oh boy good times
Having kick and other things bou to your mouse buttons is amazing, except when it isn't.
keen spire
that's why you bind your mouse keys to things that are on the keyboard already
knotty ermine
Bound**
dusk locust
my kick is middle click
solid mist
or get foot pedals
keen spire
my kick is G
solid mist
as has been discussed
keen spire
on every class, I put my kick on G
arctic pelican
Ran a +2 kr at 352 ilvl... its like healers forget prot wars need heals lmao. It eas a 2. Felt like an 8... joyful
Kick f. Stun g.
keen spire
I have 3 extra buttons on my mouse - I use shift, alt, and ctrl modifiers to turn those 3 buttons into 12. 😎
dusk locust
king's rest is really interesting on teeming fortified
arctic pelican
Mouse bindings feel sloppy
arctic pelican
My moude has 12 button. I use it for leap and push to talk
keen spire
leap is great
arctic pelican
And oh shit pots
keen spire
don't use it for spam abilities
like, keep your main rotation on the keyboard
put your cds on the mouse
arctic pelican
I shift bind my cds
Since i have to ude em on trash. And not rrally on bosses lmao
Protwar problems
knotty ermine
I don't use mouse binds for abilities I spam (closest thing would be SB), but I love having bindings over there as well.
keen spire
and if you can take less damage, why wouldn't you?
knotty ermine
Let's see...
brave jetty
I use mouse binds for stuff that I use often, but not necessarily spam.
vagrant cape
I find that having the space around WASD be for rarer abilities nice because it means you don't have to do finger acrobatics if you have to strafe while doing your rotation.
I still use QERF for main rotation abilities, but I wish I didn't...
arctic pelican
I do. Saying i use em so damn much i habe em shift bound. Not a mousd fan.
keen spire
to each their own
arctic pelican
Qertfg are all bound lol. Fuck strafing
keen spire
o.O
vagrant cape
I once knew someone who shift-bound WASD to abilities while unshifted was normal movement. they were nuts
grim prism
I have ten abilities on my mouse
keen spire
I worry about you Kalryn
arctic pelican
Im on drugs
quiet plume
Can't find much on trinkets is a 360 [Lingering Sporepods] any good? Or should I stick to a 355 [Syringe of Bloodborne Infirmity] with blockades?
arctic pelican
Its ok
grim prism
And I dont use one of those Naga mouses
vagrant cape
those are great keys, karlyn
solid mist
@vagrant cape that is up there with people using right click for foward movement in FPSs and shit
keen spire
guys we need to do an intervention for Kalryn
brave jetty
So I have Revenge, IP, SB, SR all on mousebinds/shift+mousebinds.
solid mist
they are heathens and wrong
arctic pelican
U can still strafe with mouse if ur not dumb
knotty ermine
SB, Interrupt, Hero Leap, storm bolt, taunt, and intimidating shout are all on my mouse
prisma crane
i have IP on the mouse lol
grim prism
Rotational abilities on mouse binds is a bit much for me
prisma crane
had it on mouse in legion as well
vagrant cape
If I use Q and E for abilities, where will I bind my "turn" keys?!?!
lol. "several people are typing"
solid mist
I use like... similar themeed abilities on the shift modifier, the shift version is like the next level.
q = kick, shift+q = spell reflect
r = shield block, shift + r = shield wall
e = IP, shift+e = Last stand,
etc.
knotty ermine
No shit, told a druid tank to backpedal a boss instead of strafing and giving em his back, and he said "S is bound to sit"
vagrant cape
q is devastate you heathen
wide juniper
q = shield block
knotty ermine
Anyway that's the day I found out he came from an RP server
wide juniper
e = ip
grim prism
I started listing all 10 binds i have on my mouse
vagrant cape
e is shield slam you idiots
grim prism
Then I realied nobody cares
solid mist
@knotty ermine man I sort of respect that level of shit-baggery though
wide juniper
1 is shield slam you dumbass
vagrant cape
1 is IP you mongrel
arctic pelican
1 is for afk
wide juniper
2 is TC
keen spire
aw
vagrant cape
2 is taunt you flatus
arctic pelican
3 is for wrapon unsheathe
grim prism
I agree 2 is TC
keen spire
I care, @grim prism
arctic pelican
4 is sit
keen spire
1 is for devastate you shits
vagrant cape
3 is revenge you moron
dusk locust
shift + R is TC
solid mist
I mean, it's prot warrior channel. might as well bind every key to /camp till blizz fixes us RIGHT BOIS?
wide juniper
middle mouse button is taunt you mongoloid
arctic pelican
5 is teabag macro
vagrant cape
4 is thunderclap
vagrant cape
y'all are dumb
grim prism
F is for Family is a good show
wide juniper
@vagrant cape 3 is indeed revenge
dusk locust
3 is ignore pain
brave jetty
Okay well how about something a little more useful: what macros do you guys use regularly in PvE?
vagrant cape
3 and shift + R are both revenge, just in case
brave jetty
Mouseover interrupts, mouseover HThrow, anything else?
arctic pelican
/sit / stand /macro teabag (repeats macro)
dusk locust
i used to have a mouseover intercept but it kept getting me in trouble
wide juniper
@vagrant cape But only if you're an IDIOT
grim prism
@brave jetty mouseover heroic throw gets more mileage than anything else I have
dusk locust
for easy safeguarding allies
prisma crane
strafing is faster and doesnt put mobs behind you if done properly though
vagrant cape
I actually don't use macros, either. I should look into some
grim prism
Mouseover charge is nice too
brave jetty
Mouseover heroic throw is the only one I don't think I woudl want to live without
vagrant cape
oh, I use a mouseover intercept. that's about it
brave jetty
Mouseover intercept probably pretty good too
vagrant cape
I should get the heroic throw
brave jetty
I might do that now that I'm regularly kiting in high keys but yeah
solid mist
pffffft people using intercept. tryhards
vagrant cape
anyone use mouseover taunt? if so, how is it?
wide juniper
Macros are for shit stains that can't tab target
grim prism
I think I have those two and the rest are just modifier cast macros
I also have @ stormbolt but i dont run bolt often
Because im bad
And lazy
And i'll take the passive that makes my team's stuns DR harder
vagrant cape
But how many of you macro your abilities with RP-chatting though?
knotty ermine
Back by in BC was the golden age of mousebinds though. I had a BM Hunter that I co-mained depending on what we were doing, and let me tell you.... Having a class that could do maximum DPS with a 1-button macro was amazing. I had a Logitech mouse with a free-spinning mode for the mousewheel. Scroll up was bound to Beastial wrath I believe, and scroll down was the dps macro. Go into combat, spin wheel, and the wheel stayed spinning for a solid 20-30 seconds on its own.
brave jetty
I've been considering macro'ing my spell reflect to be a yell/say to remind people not to interrupt and running it alongside normal SR
grim prism
I had /train macroed to a lot of things before I got threatened with a permanent benching
brave jetty
but I realize nobody would ever fucking read/react lol
knotty ermine
TFW you top dmg in sunwell progression while eating and halfway AFK
vagrant cape
dude I think I have that same logitech mouse. it's great
grim prism
I still have it on Last Stand
vagrant cape
oh, not that
brave jetty
I once ran some flavor text on certain abilities but all it did was expose the fact that I mash the fuck out of my buttons sometimes prior to GCD
knotty ermine
But they use that wheel in a lot of their mice now. Cept now it is plastic, maybe acetate. Spins well and for a bit, but missing the weight of that metal OG MX with the nice bearing that would literally spin for a solid 20-30, easily
brave jetty
There's the actual APM required to play the class optimally and then there's about 30 stories up, and then there's the APM I play it at because I spam like an idiot instead of just using the buffering windows.
wild bolt
@brave jetty Right there with you man 😄
I'be been trying to break myself of that, but like any habit it just takes time.
knotty ermine
Turn your sounds down, except your error notification, blare that shit
chilly brook
TBH I just like being able to easily zoom in or out
knotty ermine
"I CANNOT DO THAT"
chilly brook
I can’t bind things to scroll
grim prism
Yeah I had to use a script that checks the cooldown on my last stand to keep from spamming the /yell that went with it @brave jetty
chilly brook
Then again this has a scroll wheel
wild bolt
Same, I keep my mouse wheel free for zoom, as borked as the camera angles have been lately.
grim prism
@chilly brook you gotta upgrade to PowerGlove bro
grim prism
I use alt-mwheel for binds. I scroll zoom too much to rebind that
knotty ermine
Oh, nah, definitely couldn't do it again. But... When you have that perfect situation of "I can play my class at maximum performance with one button" and couple that with "I have a mouse that allows me to not even have to interact but 1-2 times per minute" well... The temptation was too great.
chilly brook
So you mean brewmaster monk 🙃
wild bolt
Yeah.... TBC Hunters with that Shot Macro were where it was AT.
grim prism
I peep that corsair board tho
chilly brook
Corsair Mat and keyboard
grim prism
I have one too. Bummer I spilled an entire cup of water into it a month ago and now my lower few macro keys dont work
knotty ermine
Ugh. I had to take the palmrest off of mine. Hour into use and that matte rubber looked disgusting even with the slightest hint of oil or dirt on it.
chilly brook
I used to use their m65 as well but I broke the scroll wheel on it in the middle of a competitive PUBG match
grim prism
Thats what I deserve for spending $170 on a keyboard tho
knotty ermine
We'll, mine is similar. Lux K70, or something.
grim prism
Man I love M65w
knotty ermine
Love it otherwise though
chilly brook
I loved it too
grim prism
Ive had two, i gave the old one to my brother years ago and it still works lol
chilly brook
But then I got a steelseries rival 600
And my god
That thing
So well shaped and balanced
grim prism
🍆
chilly brook
Lol
brave jetty
steelseries is a really underrated brand
knotty ermine
I'm still hunting the ideal mouse. Logitech (g700?) was decent, but the thumb buttons were a bit annoying for me. Live my naga hex right now, except I really dislike the scrollwheel and the weight, coming from a Logitech mouse.
I want something with thumb buttons as intuitive in use as the naga hex (I think the kids call my grip style as 'claw'), a clean and crisp scroll wheel, and some decent size/weight.
Ergonomics in the Hex aren't bad either, it just has zero heft to it, which I'm not completely thrilled with.
runic fjord
vagrant cape
grats method
wide juniper
Gg method
limber perch
wowprogress down lol