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ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 1:56 PM

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monk, warr, dk, paladin for me

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 1:56 PM

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Warrior / DK / Rogue / Maybe priest

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 1:57 PM

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tanks should have multiple chars anyway

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 1:57 PM

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thats the worst part

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IDK if im tanking this expac

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 1:57 PM

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no, thats how a tank player should be

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otherwise you limit yourself

wanton sentinel Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Prot War, Prot Pal for me (can always throw it all in and go Holy Pal if I need to hate myself)

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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has nothing to do with BFA

crisp slate Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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the only pain in the ass that seems really grindy at the start is the Champion of Azeroth rep. Other than that you can probably have 2-3 tanks ready for raid going mildly ham

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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what's the worst that can happen if you just have one tank? what do the other tanks potentially fill in

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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All your weaknesses

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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yeah thats my current plan tbh

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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^

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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i just dont like FOTMing

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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Every tank has specific weaknessess

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 1:58 PM

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its not about fotm

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its playing on tank strngths

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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I am going Monk/Bear/War as mains

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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So, for guilds that push progression, if you're the tank, you have whatever might endup being OP on deck, cause your primary pick might not have the cheese for that particular sammich

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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But I'll have all 6

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Fair; I dont progress in any meaningful way though

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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if ocntent you do is trivial then doenst matter ofc

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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^

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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If you DON'T they will slot you with someone else

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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i've never tanked prog so i'm just asking, but if you have to switch tanks to kill a boss, doesn't that imply that something is broken about the game itself?

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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No

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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No

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Its about having every advantage

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its not saying that X tank can't be used to kill Y Boss

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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In EN Cenarius was a mother fucker for DK and DH

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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its saying Tank A has an abilith that allows you to have a situational advantage over Tank B

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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*Drake tanking

old zephyr Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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switching tank give you that little 1% that tip the scale between wipe and kill

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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So DKs just went on another class for the boss then went back

crisp slate Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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Tank IMO is a role you should be flexible on. Tank X can make Y boss easier b/c of Z ability even in a US 150 semi casual m guild, etc

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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Oh no I guess spear too

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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@dusk locust theres this idea that homogeneity is the equal to balance which is like the major reason I dont like when dev's listen to their player base

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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if any tank could do any encounter in same way, with same difciculty, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM with the game

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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^^

crisp slate Jul 31, 2018, 2:00 PM

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^^

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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i wouldn't argue all tanks should be the same, just that they should all be capable of clearing content

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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they are

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u could do augur aswarr

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y tho

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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You also want to be able to pick a tank to supplement your cotank

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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I cleared Heroic spell blade on Vengance before they were given enough tools to actually soak 2 of th spear things

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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any tank is capable of clearing raids

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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My cotank got all the spikey ones when we picked

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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Because you like rubbing sandpaper on your eyeballs Levko, thats why

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:01 PM

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I got the smoother ones

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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my co-tank is going to be a blood dk

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i'm war

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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I mean, pure magic damage constantly - fun shiz

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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That's fine

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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picking war on augur, sure u could do it, but literally all warrior's weaknesses would be there and none of his strngths

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so thats bad

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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just ignore it 😄

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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but i mean i wouldn't mind bringing up another tank if i'm about to run into trouble

old zephyr Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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IP make that fine

crisp slate Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Any tank is, but having flexibility is good. My cotank was 100% VDH for all of M ABT and I swapped between Warr/DK/Monk throughout (depending on encounter obv)

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 PM

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At least they made it up to us with like, nearly all of TOS

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Horrible raid, good for warriors tho

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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antorus too

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Yeah

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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NH was just bad

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krosus and augur

crisp slate Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Warr was strong in ToS/ABT

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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mostly

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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I'll probably main Monk for Uldir, but if it sucks on Ghuun im ready to swap just for the kill

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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We were strong in EN going in

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and then that nerf

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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War was good in Legion

crisp slate Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Yea EN was decent too

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OP at start

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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They just forgot that you cant maintain sell reflect as active mit when they designed night hold

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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there any bosses in uldir that stand out as being tricky for a war tank?

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 2:03 PM

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We we're fine in EN after nerf too

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:04 PM

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I should say

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we were OP

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 2:04 PM

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I think Ghuun will be tough for most tanks

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:04 PM

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and then that nerf

crisp slate Jul 31, 2018, 2:04 PM

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Nexii what's so bad about monk on Ghuun?

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I've only gotten to see p1 during the first time they heroic tested

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shit was overtuned af

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I did it on a paladin

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:04 PM

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The blobs have melee and debuff

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Monks weakness

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:04 PM

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lots of little damage

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frequent and fast

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:05 PM

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^

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The only thing monks are bad with

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So I may want something to do that easier

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Going to guess Ghuun on prog is going to endup being another "Bring a BDK"

crisp slate Jul 31, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Yea prob just need to be babysat

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:05 PM

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like 3 tank fight

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:05 PM

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I refuse to be babysat

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I'll just play War or Bear

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Bear probably be good with Ghuun oddly enough.

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Yeah I think so too

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Bear is lame now though

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Bear has been lame since TBC

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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yeah but gutteral roars

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Tbh during prog I could care less how boring something is

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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not sure why people ever thought it was an exciting thing 😄

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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If things die

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Yeah

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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bear tank was let me not die real quick, btw heres some speed

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:06 PM

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Prog only lasts a month or two

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:07 PM

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which 100% made u feel like a god

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:07 PM

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get the bosses down

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:07 PM

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After that I can have fun

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:07 PM

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go back to Warrior

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I don't see too many options for cheese on these fights TBH, outside of the standard paladin bubble/taunt with some debuffs (unless they do like they did for Aggramar)

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Cheese this - ok, I've got a buff now luls

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Solo tanking is only "cheese" I think

crisp slate Jul 31, 2018, 2:10 PM

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I've liked Uldir from what I did. Decent encounters. FD and Vectis were the two that stood out as "meh" really.

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:11 PM

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I've heard the raid was over tuned

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i havent done aynthing with it though

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so idk

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:12 PM

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aren't raids generally overtuned on testing?

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:12 PM

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I'd assume

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:12 PM

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yeah, sometimes to test certain phases and such

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:13 PM

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They want to stress healers and tanks

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:13 PM

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understandable

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I think im raid leading this exp

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IDK

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things i should know

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:14 PM

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You don't know yet?

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Does that mean you haven't looked at fights or started writing strats yet?

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:15 PM

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im personally gonna look at the fights when bfa comes out, plenty of time, and i got tanks to adapt if necessary

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raid wont be out at start anyway

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Hmmm

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We have full write-ups of all the bosses already

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:16 PM

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guild has strats already

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:16 PM

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With strat pics and all

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 2:16 PM

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for first few bosses

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justh avent looked into it yet

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:16 PM

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i kinda started writing up strats a few days ago

junior igloo Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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We just wait and steal strats from daytime raiders 😄

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Haha

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Are you actually gonna play?

junior igloo Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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me?

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Yeah we dont even have our roster yet lol

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Yeah

junior igloo Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Sure, why wouldn't I?

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Leading is divvied up between role leads, 🤞 that the healer lead actually has his head on straight.

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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I remember you saying you don't really play and just TC

junior igloo Jul 31, 2018, 2:17 PM

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I wasn't quite serious 😃

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:18 PM

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Oh ok

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:18 PM

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My guilds super casual but everyone tries and at least 1 person in each role has a decent understanding of the role as a whole

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:18 PM

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I need to get my headphones and mic by raid

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:18 PM

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which lets at least get AotC (the epitome of skill) on every tier

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:18 PM

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And set up my new man cave

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Lol

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Yeah youre right that is super casual

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Fun group though; everyones nice and tries their best 😄

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:19 PM

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But I assume you are ok with that?

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:19 PM

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plus we dont enforce classes at all

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so I can do whatever we want

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IDK if u ever tried to do heroic aggramar with 3 mages 4 monks and no DK

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but we did

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I actually perfer it nexii

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:20 PM

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that doesn't sound too bad tbh

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Paralyze and sheep dont work on the adds zeppe

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:20 PM

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I mean heroic is pretty meh still

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:20 PM

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that's 1 CC short of having enough for all adds

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Monks have sap so...

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:20 PM

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paralyze works

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 2:20 PM

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Ya

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:21 PM

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paralyze does work

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:21 PM

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It wasnt monks then

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IDK

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I was yelling a lot

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thats all i remember

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the point is we had to kill the adds to cc them

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:22 PM

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warlock, hunter, rogue, monk... who else

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contributes cc to those adds

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 2:22 PM

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Gemhide would be the preferred secondsry trait right?

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:23 PM

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yup

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 2:24 PM

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Anyone found Iron Fortress and gemhide on a piece yet?

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:26 PM

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Tanks: Pally VDH Healers: monk pally drood DPS: 3 mages, 2 dh, 1 hunter, 1 rogue, 1 balance, 1 shadow

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found it

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:26 PM

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There is a spreadsheet with all the gear

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 2:27 PM

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Is it pinned?

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:28 PM

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📎 WoW_BFA_Dungeon_Gear.xlsx

junior igloo Jul 31, 2018, 2:29 PM

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2x druid root
1x hunter trap
1x rogue blind
1x monk paralyze
1x paladin repentance

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:29 PM

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repentance doesn't work on the adds afaik

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:29 PM

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It doesn't~

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:29 PM

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but druids can root 2x each

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:29 PM

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oh right root

junior igloo Jul 31, 2018, 2:29 PM

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That's unfortunate

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:29 PM

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mass root and regular root

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 2:29 PM

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IDT they had mass root (because we suck)

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but thats till enough

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only 6 spawn iirc

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:31 PM

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I've done H Aggramar with 2 monks 1 lock as our only CC, no BDK, was actually smoother with the DPS being given jobs to keep certain targets on the floor than when we had 4 locks and 5 hunters (and half of them would endup dead cause DERRRRRR)

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When you're expecting CC, folks get lazy

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when you gotta do stuff ERMAGHAWD

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I mean, there was some touch n go with tank kiting going down to keep more than two from going in at once, but

junior igloo Jul 31, 2018, 2:34 PM

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Just do mythic, cc autobreaks, so you don't have to worry about it

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:37 PM

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if a key increases damage 100% and then another (15%?) due to tyrannical, is the boss doing 115% more damage? or is that calculated differently

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:37 PM

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you mean you have to worry more and are basically forced into bringing multiple DKs?

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it's multiplicative

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:38 PM

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if an ability does 100 damage how much would it be after those increases

junior igloo Jul 31, 2018, 2:39 PM

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230

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:40 PM

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gotcha

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thanks

jade tartan Jul 31, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Guys, how many weeks for Uldir's release?

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Its normally 2 weeks/resets isnt it ?

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 2:43 PM

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sep 4th right?

cosmic cargo Jul 31, 2018, 2:43 PM

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3 weeks after

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4th reset

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as always

jade tartan Jul 31, 2018, 2:43 PM

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Thanks!

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 2:49 PM

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Sept 4th

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 2:53 PM

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^

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For Norm/heroic uldir and m+ dungeons

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Hmm

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we have any maths on Azerite Traits?

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 3:25 PM

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intimidating shout shares DR with shockwave right

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 3:26 PM

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No

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One is a fear/cower, other is a stun

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 3:26 PM

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ah ok

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:32 PM

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how can i evacuate

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982 people

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in like 2 mins

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 3:32 PM

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"ice cream social across the street going on now"

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:34 PM

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"lf guild charta signup offer 5k"

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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982?

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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😦

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i got like 30.

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Anything more would be absurd!

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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i'm sad

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:35 PM

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Who cares its just night elves

dusk locust Jul 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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oh darnit i have to leave discord now don't i

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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omg i care about night elves

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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night elf home is now stormwind

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Are you saying

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Stormwind has a refugee crisis?

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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hmm indeed

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Watch genn kick them all out and building a wall around Stormwind

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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ah yes

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another great gilnean wall

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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yay

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:37 PM

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looks good but horde's is better 😄

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Thats objective

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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what does horde one look like?

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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don't talk shit about my bat !

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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i was disappointed it was a hippogryph for alliance 😦

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i have SOOO many hippogryphs

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Your bat is shit

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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gargoyle theme song plays

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Echo location sucks

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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k so i did ther quest

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anything else new to do today?

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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http://www.wowhead.com/item=163128/war-torn-reins-of-the-undercity-plaguebat#modelviewer:10+0

Wowhead

War-Torn Reins of the Undercity Plaguebat

A mount collection item. It is a quest reward from Killer Queen. In the Mount Items category. Added in World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth.

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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complain about Horde/Alliance bias on wowhea

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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rofl

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no worries i'll have both

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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the bat is cooler tbh..

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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i'm back playing alliance soon

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:39 PM

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just cause ITS NOT A STUPID HIPPOGRYPH

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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Oh yeah

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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i never wanna see another hippogrpyph horse or dragon mount ever again

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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my war stays horde, and i'll probably make a monk for ally side

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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seriously

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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I love having candles burn my hair while i fly

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Whats wrong with horses?

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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lol my immersion

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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does the bat use the DH mount skeleton?

ornate sky Jul 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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MSGA

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:40 PM

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too many horses

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thats all

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and too many drakes

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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hey the new horses look buff af

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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there are so many other animals to use as mounts that havent been used

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giraffe, please

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or like

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um

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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im sure there is a giraffe mount

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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i dunno theres others

ornate sky Jul 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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these horses look like they lift the canal boats instead of pull them

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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or like a hummingbird mount

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id love that

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as a gnome

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it'd be cute

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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you get a bee

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What else do you want

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:41 PM

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oh yeh i forgot about bee

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how do you get the bee again?

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Just

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🐝

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Urself

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😃

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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lol

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but seriously is it rep or gold or rare drop or what

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i need a bee.

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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i assume it has to do with Stormsong

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Maybe storms wake rep or something

ornate sky Jul 31, 2018, 3:43 PM

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its rep afaik

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but check wowhead to 🐝 sure

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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k i love rep mounts

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i dont mind grinding rep

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i hate rare drop mounts

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and i hate gold mounts cause im poor

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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what

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didn't you make a lot by selling 15s?

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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i made 1.2 mil

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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just do the same for bronto mount

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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but im saving up for AH mount

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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right

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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and i dunon when ill be able to sell 15sa again

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:44 PM

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i want bronto mount too

ornate sky Jul 31, 2018, 3:45 PM

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how many runs around was it for 1.2mil

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 3:45 PM

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i've accepted i've never get it

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:45 PM

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it was 3 weeks of selling

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i dunno how many

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:45 PM

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not with that attitude Thyme!

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:45 PM

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for 2 weeks we sold off realm for 210k a run

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but then it was just sargerras for 100k a run

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 3:45 PM

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i have 862k going into BFA, i was incredibly lazy for gold making all throughout legion

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yikes

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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same i only have like 1.5 mil

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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i mean i 100% get what you're saying

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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And im gonna use them for race change/tokens

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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hopefully we'll have time to do other stuff than just farming azerite and shit

ornate sky Jul 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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i buy tokens for anything i need 🙂

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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plus im horde so trying to sell keys is nearly impossible, majority of my income as of late is from mythic antorus sales

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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i'm horde too 😭

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:46 PM

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i wish i could sell mythic or heroic antorus

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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i have half the guild wanting to play alliance again, and half staying out as horde... so that will be interesting

ornate sky Jul 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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its only like £270 for the brontus

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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i wish i could sell my soul for some happyness

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😦

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 3:47 PM

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same

lusty grotto Jul 31, 2018, 3:48 PM

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lol

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:50 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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ugh

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i hate all of these affixes.

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 3:54 PM

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Tried Prot for the first time since 8.0...

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Y I K E S 😦

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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ITS NOT THAT BAD

blazing dirge Jul 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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What's wrong with prot? It's a little different sure and slower, but it's not yikes imo

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:55 PM

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only thing i cant get used to is IP 😦

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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IP/Demo/Avatar being on the GCD is annoying AF

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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you get used to it

blazing dirge Jul 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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Just takes getting used to. It's still a solid and fun class imo

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 3:56 PM

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wtf am I supposed to do with my rage now? Stop casting to put up IP? Dump into revenge?

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 3:57 PM

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dont use revenge unless its free

#

TC does more damage

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so does devestate even

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i have issues too though. i find it hard to weave defensives into my regular rotation now that theyre all on GCD

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:02 PM

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cant believe ppl buy 15s

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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just avatar pre pull

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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i know they do, but still

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even sold some

topaz sparrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I'll sell people some 15s

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:05 PM

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@junior ivy if I'm not casting Rev I'm probably overcapped on rage

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 4:06 PM

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are you playing liveß

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:07 PM

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yea

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Well dont get used to it

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Your probably have a lot of haste to generate rage faster

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Sometimes i struggle to have enough rage to IP once it wears off

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:08 PM

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on st

robust urchin Jul 31, 2018, 4:08 PM

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well yeah on bosses

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I mean trash is usually no problem with iron fortress and bolster

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:29 PM

#

I mean compared to Blood

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which I just did a dungeon on at 110

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Prot feels so much worse

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maybe it's because I played prot before the patch

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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blood and prot are complete opposites ofplaystyle

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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sorry, @ 100

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not 110

strong forum Jul 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Yeah just as levko said, bdk is complete opposite of warri

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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because it plays smoothly?

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:30 PM

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i paly both

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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lel

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I dunno

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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or you cant play it well 😉

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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can't play blood well?

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probably

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

#

prot

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

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considering I jsut red IV and walked into a dungeon lol

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

#

reading only gets u so far

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:31 PM

#

talking about blood here

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I raided prot for an entire tier

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I knew how to play it properly before pre patch

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post prepatch idk but it doesnt feel good is my point

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probably not playing it perfectly but not that much changed

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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blood lost a shitload

strong forum Jul 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

#

Quite alot changed in playstyle actually

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

#

after artifact removal

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Can't judge 120 classes in 110 content

uncut hawk Jul 31, 2018, 4:33 PM

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so it'll feel better with fewer secondary stats?

strong forum Jul 31, 2018, 4:33 PM

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With different encounters and azerite gear

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Yes

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It's a significant change that you can't adapt to in 5min

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:34 PM

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ofc u got fewer secondaries

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3 pieces if i read it right wont have sec stats at all

strong forum Jul 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

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Gotta retrain your muscle memory

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

#

is kezan a horde city like ironforge?

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

#

Damage patterns and etc are also different

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:35 PM

#

kezan is goblin start?

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or is that smt else

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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is it not a city

strong forum Jul 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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Yea it's goblin start, just googled

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It's an island

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Near the maelstrom

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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can i get there as alliance?

strong forum Jul 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

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No

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

#

kk

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 4:36 PM

#

Undercity is more like Ironforge

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:41 PM

#

so is undercity gone tomorrow or

sick sentinel Jul 31, 2018, 4:43 PM

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What are the best protection warrior talents for survivability

little star Jul 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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📌

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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IV guide goes over them

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 4:49 PM

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skyhold .gg

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:49 PM

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IV guide is written by marok

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so i think its fine

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

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I dunno, He might not know how to warrior /s

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:50 PM

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hes basically sco 2

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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yikes

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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You take that back

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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luckily he doesnt read the chat thyme

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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he doesn't have to 😏

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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rip

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ur one of his bots thyme

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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👌

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nice, hands not on home row

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:51 PM

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if he reads this

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Ban 2 incoming

timid jay Jul 31, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Only 2 bans, small boye

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 4:57 PM

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only 1 YET

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it was not my fault so shrug

stuck oxide Jul 31, 2018, 5:17 PM

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😎

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Skyhold website will not host the prot warrior guide? It is exclusive to icy veins?

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 5:24 PM

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They aren't allowed to

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Without completely rewriting it

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 5:35 PM

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Dude that wrote it runs Skyhold.gg ? gg?

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But I dunno the deals

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only Marok and Archi know

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 5:37 PM

#

Marok? Yes

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IV and WoWHead require you to not use the content there for personal gain and etc since they pay you

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So you can't just copy/paste the guide from the site

strong forum Jul 31, 2018, 5:42 PM

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you didnt know that ikari? pretty sure he linked it back in #bfa-protection as HIS guide on IV

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 5:48 PM

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What if they just added .gg after every sentence in the guide

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It'd be like a totally different thing

#

Like "ice ice baby" and "under pressure"

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 5:49 PM

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No

strong forum Jul 31, 2018, 5:51 PM

#

monkaS

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 5:55 PM

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Damn

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 6:56 PM

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Oof

cobalt wigeon Jul 31, 2018, 7:19 PM

#

Hey guys I am willing to reroll on prot warrior, but i am not sure whitch race is better Tauren or Orc i do both pvp and pve

little star Jul 31, 2018, 7:20 PM

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tauren prot warrior all the way

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but if you pvp as fury or arms orc will be better forthat

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Racials inconsequential, being 12 feet tall during Avatar and getting everyone to beat on you while the Goblin rogue tears through their healers - Priceless.

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Guys is it only me, or is prot warrior the most unfun spec to play since the prepatch

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especially because of the GCD rework

hidden siren Jul 31, 2018, 7:48 PM

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only you

stable pier Jul 31, 2018, 7:51 PM

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Prot warrior is amazing now imo

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I rarely have to devastate

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 7:52 PM

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There is a section of the community who does not like how prot feels, I think we're just dandy gameplay wise, didn't like the superspammy play of ABT myself.

#

As for the most unfun spec

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 7:53 PM

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i thought i didn't like the spam either, but i was wrong apparently

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 7:53 PM

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have you tried Enhancement?

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 7:53 PM

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yes 😄

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 7:53 PM

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It wasn't the pace so much, it was the mindlessness of the spam really that struck me as annoying in ABT

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Now its a pretty strong tick tock feel to it

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 7:54 PM

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what specs you running ikarikaze cause i feel squishy

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 7:57 PM

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That's a general tank thing tho, we're all squishier than normal

#

rather than we were.

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 7:57 PM

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the sky is falling just like every other prepatch

#

Blizzard tunes for endgame and things will feel better once you are leveled and geared

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You are freshly-squished in legacy gear

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 7:58 PM

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you guys use devastator or booming voice? the guide says booming voice

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 7:58 PM

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I'll generally run 1 2 2 3 2 1 1...

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 7:58 PM

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@tired python BV all day

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 7:58 PM

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which is the cookiecutter

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 7:59 PM

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i looked at the rankings on wlogs and all the warriors use devastator

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 7:59 PM

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its a DPS increase

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 7:59 PM

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Maybe if youre trying to get 99% damage parses sure

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 7:59 PM

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not much of one, but enough to tip all of them to the top when they use it

#

if squish is your issue

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I wouldn't use Devastator

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 8:00 PM

#

logs show dmg

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deva is inferior defensively

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:00 PM

#

squish is not the issue, clumsiness of the playstyle is my issue 😄

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:00 PM

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AM synergizes too well with BV and Bolster

#

really the only spec swap I make is to grab safeguard for M+

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:01 PM

#

BV is likely a damage increase over deva in M+ as well, considering you'll be doing AoE damage for most of the instance

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:01 PM

#

for AE yes

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well

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:01 PM

#

Which is something you wont see in raid logs ofc

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:01 PM

#

kind've

#

it came down to a very fine line

#

since Devastator enables the gloves

#

which buffs TC

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:02 PM

#

Right

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:02 PM

#

but is not

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 8:02 PM

#

Devastator also is a damage buff during UF avatar

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:02 PM

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worth taking for the 40 rage

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 8:02 PM

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cause you wont ever press devestate during that time

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:03 PM

#

so if i'm good with survivability, i'm fine running devastator with gloves

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:04 PM

#

more or less

#

Its really just a quality of life thing

#

Hate devastate that much - go ahead

#

make your healers work for their meal!

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:05 PM

#

Noob question but did they stop awarding leggos with prepatch?

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:05 PM

#

i still should be a ble to solol the begging of Kara for a mount run

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:05 PM

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nope

#

got one yesterday

#

kara run is the thing i just tried, got totally melted when i pulled the whole horseman room

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Sure would be nice if blizz could give me some goddamn bouncy shoulders

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:06 PM

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was that on M0 Faz?

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:06 PM

#

yep

#

mount run

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:06 PM

#

Did you properly LoS dem to gather the pack?

#

fire hurts I heard

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:06 PM

#

i used to just heroic leap on top of horseman and cleave all in like 15 seconds with BC before prepatch

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:07 PM

#

yeah ><

#

Stuff hurts more now >< no more 6million IP berbles with 50% Spell Relfect

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:07 PM

#

😦

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:08 PM

#

yea and pennies hurt a lot more too

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:08 PM

#

Line of Sight is everyones friend

#

playing peekaboo with half the trash in Kara

#

feelsbadman

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:08 PM

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killed the first part with no problems

#

problems arose on opera when i got perma disoriented and then the horseman room

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 8:11 PM

#

LOS in pugs is the worst

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:11 PM

#

so i'm guessing gloves+bracers on ST and vigor+bracers on AOE is the shit rn?

modern brook Jul 31, 2018, 8:11 PM

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you try and do it and the monk just fists everything dies and bitches at you

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:12 PM

#

yea just feels bad and clunky watching my healh just melt away

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:18 PM

#

Belt + whatever unless you're devastator then Belt + gloves

#

Bracers are hit or miss, since your big spenders are on the GCD, they help a bit, but no where near the god tier self sustain we had prior to 8

#

with how low the CD is on DS tho, belt is pretty snazzy, even single target

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:21 PM

#

devastator is totally viable rn imo

#

but thats only because of glove

#

+20% rage is a ton.

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:21 PM

#

i really liked gloves and legs not sure what i want now

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:21 PM

#

and tbh theres no good 2nd slot legendary to use 😄

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:21 PM

#

^^

#

that is really it

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:21 PM

#

its like belt

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:21 PM

#

I mean, Archimonde's is solid

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:21 PM

#

and rest is poop

#

no

#

i would rather use arcano crystal

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:22 PM

#

It gives you that old school

#

IP feeling

#

for just a second

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:22 PM

#

and then it blows up for 10 damge

#

on a massive cd

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:22 PM

#

11 thanks

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:22 PM

#

might aswell use the heirloom trinket from wod

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:22 PM

#

That isn't a bad idea

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:22 PM

#

yes it is :p

#

its a good trinket but stupdily niche

#

archimonde has a too tiny shiled on a too long cd

#

obviously balance issue, but like the reason it sucks is cuz other trinkets are already so god

#

good

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:23 PM

#

hadn't checked did they double nerf KJs for Takns?

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:24 PM

#

idk but i would probably use Sephuz over htose

#

or even Legs if theres any sexy spell reflects in the encounters

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:24 PM

#

some

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:24 PM

#

idk u rarely need 2 spell reflects

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:24 PM

#

Tyrannical week and King Yammer lives for more than 1 Dark Slash

#

only one I can think of

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:25 PM

#

yea but on the other bosses its junk

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:25 PM

#

shade of medivh?

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:25 PM

#

cuz 1 charge is more than enough

#

in upper karazhan it might be great

#

last boss is good with reflect too¨

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:25 PM

#

yeah them missles

#

on Shade

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:25 PM

#

and that sexy dot from eye

tired python Jul 31, 2018, 8:25 PM

#

and last boss too yeah

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:25 PM

#

make it stack with pants

#

:d

#

gotta love at yellign at ur dps not to interupt and theyre like

#

wuts wrong with him

#

Spell Reflect is so op

#

im surprised that mechanic is still a thing

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 8:26 PM

#

it's nerfed to the ground now

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

well, back to what it was pre-legion

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:26 PM

#

spell reflect

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:26 PM

#

Remember in wod when u could click it, walk into a pool of shit and the boss would get hit by the pool of shit?

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:26 PM

#

might as well not exist

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 8:26 PM

#

its just "good"

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:26 PM

#

wtf is up with spell reflect

#

i did upper kara 21 last nightr

#

and on medihv

#

spell reflect did like NOTHING

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

ofc

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

we had to interrupt every piercing missiles

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

cuz missle is lots of shots

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

only reflects 1 missile now

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

wow

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

LOL

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

yeh we just interrupted them all

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

not the whole channel

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

but still theres the dot from the claw on helyra

#

and the dark slash

#

its shit on trash tho

#

but still its usefull

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

my healer tried to make me wear the special SR pants to upper kara 21

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

You reflect the last missle so you don't get that tasty debuff~

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:27 PM

#

and i was like.. nah

#

im glad i didnt wear them

#

cause they woulda been useless

#

but healer argued

#

and thought i was making bad decision

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

Stuff can't kill you if its dead - tanking as prot right now?

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

Depends if ur gonna die to its dots

#

problem with SR imo is the dumb fact theyre trying to make it mitigate non reflectable hits

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:28 PM

#

we couldnt kill last boss on upper kara 21 😦

#

we had to ive up

#

give

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

oh and it stops doing that after it reflects stuff

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

last boss is so hard

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

he was hard pre m+ kara even.

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

but it was fortified

#

😦

#

but tbf we were 4 manning it

#

one of our dps ragequit

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:29 PM

#

i hate when they make dungeon bosses too messy

#

i really dont like that fight

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:30 PM

#

i didnt find it that bad before prepatch i dunno

#

last night it was insane

#

for p1 i felt like i was using CD after CD just to stay alive

#

and grievous didnt help

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:30 PM

#

those orbs in p2, adds suddenly, interuptable beam etc, its hard to execute perfectly

#

always gonna have 1 idiot die to some bs.

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:30 PM

#

we wiped like 3 times cause people would habve grievous going into the ;portals

#

and die as soon sas they got to ship

#

as*

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:30 PM

#

thats dumb

#

make portal provide immunity

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

I'd rather have it reduce all magic damage by 15%, and not reflect, than to have it be 20% and disappear the instant a trash mob sneezes at me with a low damage frost shock

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

point with is

#

u use it at bosses to reduce damge

#

not to reduce damge at trash

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

Right

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

Spell reflect has always been super powerfull

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

But when you have a boss like Medivh

#

there in lies the issue

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:31 PM

#

it was just a odd "punch almost on cd"

#

dude

#

solution

#

dont make a boss doing arcane missle

#

and its not build to be reflected or mitigated

#

ot

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

well, the issue it trying to fit bfa tuning into legion tuning, long story short they don't mix

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

i did maw 21 yesterday too, and had no issues on first boss, where idn ormally need pants

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

^^

#

What Thyme said

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:32 PM

#

yeh thats true

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:33 PM

#

i miss legion prepatch

#

never felt so op

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 8:34 PM

#

i didnt play legion prepatch

#

😦

#

well, actually i did, i was rushing to reach lvl 100

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:34 PM

#

legion prepatch to me felt like doing timewalk raids and such

#

as legion prot

#

sit at 100% ignore pain all the time and do nothing

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:38 PM

#

wont have that problem any more

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:39 PM

#

"problem"

#

killing illidan with 30k hp and 80k ignore pain felt great

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 8:40 PM

#

By Illidan you mean Archimonde?

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:40 PM

#

i know loved it

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:40 PM

#

no talking timewalking

#

i cant remember numbers in wod they werent that extreme with ignore pain

#

but going from barrier > pain was the best thing ever.

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:41 PM

#

yea now we're less then barrier

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:42 PM

#

hhaha no

#

even current ip is way better than barrier imo

#

barrier had so many techical issues imo

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:42 PM

#

But vengeance scaling

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:42 PM

#

there was a 4set or something to get +100% better barrier doing last stand

#

and vengeance

#

that made it decent

#

but without that 4set i found barrier very very meh

#

especially considering shield block was so high cost

#

u were almost better off hitting execute 😍

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:45 PM

#

i just dont get all the tanksing bits nerf

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 8:45 PM

#

they dont wanan tanks self sustain

#

they want the tank/healer/dps roles to matter more

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thats the reasons

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:47 PM

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ok sure fine but then why the i slands where spec not supossed to matter

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:48 PM

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compare to barrier i think the idea of ignore pain only reducing 50% is genius

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shouldve been that in the start in my opinion

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or maybe more like 60-70% 90% is just silly.

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for example if u had 40k hp, shield barrier was 10k

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u popped it and took a 10k auto attack

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 8:48 PM

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69%

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:49 PM

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i would litterally rather eat that to the face.

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Tanks got a self sustain nerf - Healers got a throughput nerf (each point matters more) DPS got a personal responsibility nerf

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:50 PM

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throughput > 1shot mechanics.

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:51 PM

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But boss mechanics are usually oneshot mechanics 🤔

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:51 PM

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that was more to AgentSardan hehe

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 8:51 PM

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Not if they two shot you

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:51 PM

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Theyre all three-quarter-shots

subtle gust Jul 31, 2018, 8:51 PM

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i didnt know dps had a pesonal repsonsibiitly 😄

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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They didn't until this patch

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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Well it would be cooler if the boss mechanic was like a arcane missle

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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Theyre half-jigger mechanics, for the alcy crowd

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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just pulling you inside out

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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DPS standing in junk and not using personal CDs when they need it - overstrained healers

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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instead of just

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"OH U DIDNT BLOW UR COOLDOWNS DIE"

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and im thinking m+ mostly

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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If game designers could stop making magic missile OP in literally every setting and system I would be so happy

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:52 PM

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annyoin to get 1shot as a DPS by something stoppid.

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tbh HFC

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had a lot of mechanics being like

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Yeah, like was saidearlier, we're dealing with really heavy mechanics in Legion, while wearing our BFA pants

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:53 PM

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channeled rape

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Is that a new honor talent

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:54 PM

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Shield Bash before the nerf?

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 8:54 PM

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Yes

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 8:55 PM

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m+ is such great content

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instantly dying to a area effect spawning on you, thatsyour supposed to get out of

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 8:57 PM

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which one?

uneven mason Jul 31, 2018, 8:57 PM

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I haven't been one shot by anything instant

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like truely unavoidable

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I've derped and ate a tick of 10 sanguines stacked on eachother

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 8:59 PM

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put boss on there

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for extr challenge

waxen talon Jul 31, 2018, 9:07 PM

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well first week of m+ i did votw +9 or so

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and first boss had a eyebeam spawning on the range dps just 1shotting the mages

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never really played range dps so cant tell if its completely unavoidable

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but i think ur supposed to take 1tick then get the fuck out of it

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but as a tank not really cuz we're so op

main vault Jul 31, 2018, 9:22 PM

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You can avoid it

smoky oak Jul 31, 2018, 9:30 PM

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You premove for that beam

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Completely avoidable

broken kite Jul 31, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Just DPS things

earnest sand Jul 31, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Also mages have a little ability called Blink which works nicely for avoiding that kinda thing.

rancid rune Jul 31, 2018, 9:47 PM

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guys what great leggos for prot

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 9:48 PM

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The ones in the pinned guide

rancid rune Jul 31, 2018, 9:48 PM

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i have ebnough to buy two

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 9:48 PM

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Depends what youre trying to do

rancid rune Jul 31, 2018, 9:48 PM

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in the pre patch guide??

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i want to raid tank M+ and just to have to kill stuff stay alive hahahaha

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i dont have any atm just fury stuff

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i got legs and helm for fury but for tank i dont have a clue on whats good

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 9:50 PM

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Gloves and belt probably

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More damage, more rage, frequent demo shouts

earnest sand Jul 31, 2018, 9:50 PM

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Belt is great.

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Constant demo shout if you have Warmode on with that DS PVP talent

grim prism Jul 31, 2018, 9:51 PM

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The prepatch guide breaks every one of them down pretty well

earnest sand Jul 31, 2018, 9:51 PM

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And in dungeons too

rancid rune Jul 31, 2018, 9:52 PM

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ok the first talent i have the shild slam one what u gusy think

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punish but icy venis say in ot the fray but runs will be whn trhat talenmt will trylu rock

broken kite Jul 31, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Itf is King

sick sentinel Jul 31, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Of the little I could understand, I would say that Punish outshines in Single Target and 2 target situations, while Into the Fray can be very useful for M+, since unless you have constant godlike procs on shield, the Haste buff will outshine it

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 9:55 PM

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if you can get full effectiveness out of itf it's better, if not go punish

rancid rune Jul 31, 2018, 9:55 PM

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ok

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i have punish cause im still doing stuff for mount and WQ for gear and rep for the loot boxes

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so belt and gloves u say??

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but i i equpi that means i will get devastor which i use a lot while shild slam is on cs and revange

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ty guys for the info but one last question how does prot warriors do in bfa

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 10:02 PM

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Fine, still one of the most punishing but viable for keys and mythic raiding

rancid rune Jul 31, 2018, 10:03 PM

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what u mean by that

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 10:07 PM

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less forgiving if you make a mistake.
unlike brewmaster or guardian where it's incredibly lenient on the choices you make, tanks like prot warrior if you make a mistake you're essentially dead

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that's definitely an exaggeration but it's the point of some tanks have a much easier time getting the same results than others

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 10:29 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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shoudlnt i ber able to fit one more builkding

earnest sand Jul 31, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Note that ITF procs off friendly anything as well, so it's normally up when I'm doing WQs.

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 10:29 PM

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in that little spot at the bottom?

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 10:31 PM

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theoretically yes, but that's not how they allowed garrisons to work ¯_(ツ)_/¯

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 10:34 PM

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so its just an empty spot now and forever?

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garrison is so confusing to me

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 10:40 PM

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yeah, you are given a finite amount of plots. once you fill out those given spots it's done

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you can replace the buildings with other buildings in those plots but once you upgrade to level 3 that's the set amount of plots you can have

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 10:42 PM

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what are some good buildings to have

undone sun Jul 31, 2018, 10:43 PM

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i don't remember ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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trading post allows for the auction house but other than that it's pretty irrelevant now

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 10:45 PM

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oh yeh i got the AH

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was a lot of work

cinder bridge Jul 31, 2018, 11:14 PM

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dear LORD ALMIGHTY why is ignore pain on the gcd

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just why

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playing prot has always been fun to me except for this clunky ass shit

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:18 PM

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QUESTION

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i know im not allowed to use revenge unless its free

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and even trhen its low priority

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but what if im trying to get/keep aggro on a group of enemies?

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like i feel like i need the aoe

stark sage Jul 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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📎 Capture.PNG

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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^

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:20 PM

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ok, so it is okay to use revenge to pick up aggro

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or if im gonna lose aggro

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if TC is on cd

stark sage Jul 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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unless you are worried about dying

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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the case im thinkin about is boat man in maw of souls

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beforee helya

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whats jhis name?

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his new adds come out

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i was using revenge sometimes to pick them up

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:21 PM

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ya that's fine

stark sage Jul 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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also note that once you have aggro, more enemies will proc more free revenges

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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like marok isn't gonna come to your house and uninstall your game if you spend rage on revenge

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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lol

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:22 PM

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establish threat is always your number 1 priority

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imo

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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cool, i was just makin sure

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btw tho im still confused about my opening

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when i pull a boss

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right now what i do is:

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prolonged potion, 3 sec pull timer, avatar, charge in, demo shout, dimas, SS

teal jolt Jul 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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my health drops so fast with IP up and SB, so i really have no idea whats going with class, ive never had this bad a dip in hp in legion

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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and then regular rotation

teal jolt Jul 31, 2018, 11:23 PM

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for M+

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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i'd get a taunt in there before SS

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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yeha sometimes the boss runs towards a dps at first lol

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its scary

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i guess i shoudl taunt

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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Legion m+ isn't rly balanced around your BFA toolkit

teal jolt Jul 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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ye thats what i feel too

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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so there's some dangerous stuff...but SB has been pretty solid for me overall

teal jolt Jul 31, 2018, 11:24 PM

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even healers are asking me if my IP is up

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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prots felt pretty solid to me in m+ even once you reach the 20s. but using CDs properly is more important than it was with T21 SS/IP spamz

stark sage Jul 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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@junior ivy

📎 Capture.PNG

teal jolt Jul 31, 2018, 11:25 PM

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and my ilvl 230 tanking M+ 13 with majoor dips then forced to use last stand and

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SW

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:26 PM

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wait

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someone said i should cast avatar before i charge in

stark sage Jul 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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eh it doesnt matter a whole lot

teal jolt Jul 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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maybe its just my gear

stark sage Jul 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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but its more optimal to cast after charging

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unless you really really need SB up an extra GCD sooner

teal jolt Jul 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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ye get more thunderclaps in

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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it just feels like the opener is so SLOW

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so much time goes bny trying to compelte the steps

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:27 PM

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so tbh i like intercept and a taunt+SS/TC before using that opener

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just to establish threat

junior ivy Jul 31, 2018, 11:28 PM

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for a while i had macroed /pull 3 and /cast avatar together

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lol

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but i stopped that

stark sage Jul 31, 2018, 11:30 PM

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i would just stick to marok's opener

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charge + taunt > avatar > DS > SB+ SS

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:30 PM

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is that SS hitting with taunt on mob tho?

stark sage Jul 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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should

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its only 2 GCDs after pull

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so unless your haste is shit, or you miss a GCD

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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i think the paragraph under the opener is a key detail

ember arrow Jul 31, 2018, 11:32 PM

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first boss seat

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3 peopel went inside

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he took 600% dmg

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died in 0.5 sec

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nice one bliz

signal plover Jul 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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john madden would be proud of that penetration

lapis gazelle Jul 31, 2018, 11:58 PM

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Can someone explain how to get the right weights for prot please?

junior ivy Aug 1, 2018, 12:12 AM

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is it acutally possibler to avoid breath on draghon boss in DHT?

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 12:13 AM

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YEA

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caps

cinder bridge Aug 1, 2018, 12:13 AM

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just circle around when he starts casting

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he? she?

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did I just assume the dragons gender?

signal plover Aug 1, 2018, 12:26 AM

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I'd assume she on account of all the eggs unless dragon roll like seahorses do

junior ivy Aug 1, 2018, 12:29 AM

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i get the debnuff no matter what

jagged bay Aug 1, 2018, 12:35 AM

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gn

tawny sphinx Aug 1, 2018, 12:39 AM

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@junior ivy Move in to boss when he cast. Hug boss.

junior ivy Aug 1, 2018, 12:39 AM

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isnt that what i dont wanna do?

tawny sphinx Aug 1, 2018, 12:40 AM

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@junior ivy wait, you mean dragon? You dodge when he casts or use spell reflect

junior ivy Aug 1, 2018, 12:40 AM

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yeha dragon

tawny sphinx Aug 1, 2018, 12:40 AM

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Dodge or use spell reflect

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Any 1 know why i take TONS of dmg on last boss in MoS? I dodge all shit on ground, cant be that. Healer need to spamheal.

errant ledge Aug 1, 2018, 12:41 AM

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Most abilitys that are casted can be side stepd, that is one of them @junior ivy

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The tentacles on the last boss apply a bleed dot that can be spell reflected

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Only the tank tentacles do it

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With tyrannical they will hurt allot more

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Make sure your dps prioritize them unless you are about to phase

hollow token Aug 1, 2018, 12:43 AM

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Would you all suggest prot to someone new to tanking?

junior ivy Aug 1, 2018, 12:44 AM

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apparently prot is pretty unforgiving in bfa so far

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compared to some other tanks

hollow token Aug 1, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Mmm that’s a bummer

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Why so?

errant ledge Aug 1, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Prot warriors take more skill to play then other tanks imo, timing and rage management along with planning out CD's/calling externals then other tanks. Something most warriors dont consider also is the more offensive you play the more you are going to be avoiding dmg in the long run. (More rage for more mitigation/more stuns/int for less dmg taken/things dying faster due to you putting out more dmg)

hollow token Aug 1, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Holding threat?

errant ledge Aug 1, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Holding threat comes to common sense

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Thunder clap will be your go to, along with revenge when its free. (Applying demo shout with booming voice will help)If you are struggling apply another revenge, you need to have addons like a threat meter or name plates above the mobs your fighting showing a live status of your threat so you can see when dps are about to pull aggro on a mob and you can apply more dmg where necessary before the mob transitions onto the dps.

tawny sphinx Aug 1, 2018, 12:48 AM

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@junior ivy People have been racist in legion too, even though we did he highest dmg in raid by far all tank classes, healed as much as bdk, just they take more dmg.
We got a really Nice AoE buff now, its OP compared to what we had, def needed, even though healing is gone. Still just bdk who actually does some healing, other tank classes does not heal that much either. I play both bdk and prot warr. Aoe threat as bdk is reduced af.

errant ledge Aug 1, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Self healing is nice, but when your mitigation is trash compared to others it dosnt really make you any better. Same thing can be said for bear tanks, you have 10mill hp? thats cool, you also take twice the dmg i do

lapis gazelle Aug 1, 2018, 12:51 AM

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Bro just like

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Try not taking damage

amber siren Aug 1, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Prot warrior racism, boy I didn't expect to read that today

lapis gazelle Aug 1, 2018, 1:15 AM

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Ikr

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 1:15 AM

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well i mean, we idndt heal as much as bdk, i pushed war to 1.3mil hps on m hounds, bdk could go to 2

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but your point still stands

lapis gazelle Aug 1, 2018, 1:16 AM

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We are being discriminated against

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Soon there will be class segregation

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 1:16 AM

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classes arent a race

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cant be racist

lapis gazelle Aug 1, 2018, 1:16 AM

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marok

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Holy shit

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You're right

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 1:16 AM

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ikr

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200 IQ

lapis gazelle Aug 1, 2018, 1:17 AM

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Woke

tiny sphinx Aug 1, 2018, 2:41 AM

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honestly I just want t21 2set forever

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give back battlecry blizzard you cunts

round vortex Aug 1, 2018, 2:44 AM

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If we had battle cry, (with or without the 2pce obviously with preferred even as a talent) IP not so shit and off GCD + better rage gen to actually be able to use our abilities I wouldn't be considering re-rolling another tank that "feels" funner to play

grim prism Aug 1, 2018, 3:02 AM

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You wont do it though

spice saddle Aug 1, 2018, 3:08 AM

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eh a good titanforge shield makes prot good

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without one, it's dinky

tiny sphinx Aug 1, 2018, 3:27 AM

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also we lost bastion of aspect, the most amazing effect for tanks ever conceived

glacial sage Aug 1, 2018, 3:29 AM

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The ability to spam ip is what hurt me the most, I was outhealing the healers just because of it most of the time

onyx vessel Aug 1, 2018, 3:37 AM

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just means shit healers

amber siren Aug 1, 2018, 3:42 AM

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I mean, not really? Any trivial content IP and Inspiring Presence was easily enough to keep you near the top

stray wedge Aug 1, 2018, 3:43 AM

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Inspiring Presence doesn't/didn't work on yourself

amber siren Aug 1, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Of the meters I meant

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Obv it didn't work on you

stray wedge Aug 1, 2018, 3:45 AM

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sorry i didn't realise that's what was being talked about

amber siren Aug 1, 2018, 3:45 AM

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I'll let it slide this time 😎

sick sentinel Aug 1, 2018, 4:08 AM

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nice job macro

broken kite Aug 1, 2018, 4:09 AM

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You a warrior now potato

sick sentinel Aug 1, 2018, 4:09 AM

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i always played a warrior just an alt tho

broken kite Aug 1, 2018, 4:10 AM

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👌

plain vapor Aug 1, 2018, 4:17 AM

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lols

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someone in my raid tonight got amanthuls

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impeccable timing

broken kite Aug 1, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Nice

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Great implementation blizzard

ashen trellis Aug 1, 2018, 6:07 AM

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We went back and cleared ToS tonight. Bolster makes KJ claws a joke hahja

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 7:05 AM

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they already were for warr

flat basin Aug 1, 2018, 7:40 AM

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If your job tier pieces per piece are more than 15 ilvls more than tier pieces. Would you replace your tier?

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Non

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 7:42 AM

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what

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4p is too good atm, so you shouldn't replace it

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2o you definitely should

strong forum Aug 1, 2018, 8:09 AM

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@spice saddle shields can't titanforge though only warforge

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So good weapons and azerite pieces you can only get from high content

lament sky Aug 1, 2018, 9:37 AM

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Really struggling to pick between Prot and guardian

strong forum Aug 1, 2018, 9:43 AM

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How, from all I heard guardian is the most boring spec ever. And prot probably the most interactive spec

dusky sentinel Aug 1, 2018, 9:54 AM

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holy chicken nugget that was a dark side by sylvanas. I mean... damn. I dont wanna play horde 😛

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 10:13 AM

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i wanna play where there are people to paly with

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SOO 2 incoming

dusky sentinel Aug 1, 2018, 10:24 AM

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That would be the siege. I suspect something hidden. I know it. Anduin will be corrupted!

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 10:45 AM

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i kinda started to feel bad for the alliance doing the quest

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but then got camped at the end

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so fuck them

undone sun Aug 1, 2018, 10:45 AM

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lol

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 10:45 AM

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shouldve done killing blow to malfurion tbh

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 11:02 AM

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where do night elfs start then?

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xd

tawdry plover Aug 1, 2018, 11:06 AM

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Burning the great trees will unprison something I am sure 😉

feral crypt Aug 1, 2018, 11:32 AM

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looking at prot representation in mythic and m+ makes me anxious, I really want to play warrior for dps but my m+ group has higher ambitions for bfa and I might need to tank some

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how is it on prepatch and are things going to get better at 120?

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I tried the new prot with my old t21 mindset and it looks poop, no damage, no rage gen, holes in mitigation

kind tinsel Aug 1, 2018, 11:58 AM

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The gaps are what's killing it for me now. I can get over a slower playstyle, but having to roll a CD because my spec can't maintain a respectable mitigation up for a lot of situations feels terrible for me.

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Same reason why I never had any interest in Paladin and now it's showing up on warrior

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And the gaps are only going to get longer with lower haste lvls at 120

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 12:06 PM

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bolster with SB

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40 sec uptime

strong forum Aug 1, 2018, 12:12 PM

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^, prot dmg is close to being broken

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Midigation is nice, you need to play properly and proactively you can get 40sec of uptime ez if you chain CDs even more

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And if you don't have rage gen on 120, you are doing something seriously wrong

kind urchin Aug 1, 2018, 12:16 PM

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If 100% uptime was obtainable on all tanks for their AM then AM would be pointless and they should just make it passive. I like the higher skill required to time AM correctly to not get screwed.

ember arrow Aug 1, 2018, 12:16 PM

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monks have 100% uptime

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bears too iirc

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😛

junior igloo Aug 1, 2018, 12:18 PM

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I'm not saying that all tanks should have the option to have 100 % up-time. The variety can be fine with proper balancing.

But it wouldn't be pointless.
The point is that you have to play well to achieve it - generate enough resources by proper "rotation", timing it well etc.
Good players would have 100 % up-time, worse players would not and they would take more damage or die as a result.

strong forum Aug 1, 2018, 12:20 PM

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Agreed

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With prot warris it'll be easy to distinguish a good one from a bad one this expac even more

tawny panther Aug 1, 2018, 12:25 PM

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Still catching up here but how come?

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Those that roll CDs to those who don't or something with actual difficulty?

signal plover Aug 1, 2018, 12:26 PM

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More about those that know the fights and those that are reacting to the fights imo

strong forum Aug 1, 2018, 12:29 PM

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Pretty much dan, you are supposed to use LS actively, not as oh shit buttons

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Same as SW

tawny panther Aug 1, 2018, 12:42 PM

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Yea I dislike not having an oh shit button but if you roll coodlowns there shouldn't be a shit moment in theory.

signal plover Aug 1, 2018, 12:43 PM

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Well it depends on what fight/content you're doing. You'll use CDs a bit different in m+ than you will in raid fights but the main point is to reduce the damage coming in rather than react after it has come

tawny panther Aug 1, 2018, 12:44 PM

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I haven't read too much into the BFA raid stuff so what difference do you mean? Or just that you'll need AM up for specific abilities (but then that should be the case on m+ bosses too really)

signal plover Aug 1, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Pretty much that

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Meant in contrast to m+ trahs

tawny panther Aug 1, 2018, 12:52 PM

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Ah yeah true. More trash focus in 5 man's. Just wanted to clarify!

primal rain Aug 1, 2018, 12:53 PM

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What's my main rage spender?

kind urchin Aug 1, 2018, 12:53 PM

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They could make it a resource management challenge to keep it up. That'd be pretty cool.

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Then those who manage resources properly could obtain 100% and those who don't will fail. But the challenge could be to do enough damage to hold threat being forced to use resources on that as well as the AM. It's a little late for dreams right now though isn't it.

dusky sentinel Aug 1, 2018, 12:58 PM

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Guys. Which ally race has the best animations? I need to faction change to do the pre-quest since im all horde :p

strong forum Aug 1, 2018, 1:00 PM

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Im biased on dwarfs

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So ima say dwarfs

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Main rage spenders are SB, Revenge and IP.

signal plover Aug 1, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Dranei are the only ones whose shoulders are big enough to compete with horde shoulders.

uneven mason Aug 1, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Worgen

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Got some good shoulders

dusky sentinel Aug 1, 2018, 1:06 PM

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I know. But they walk kinda wobbly

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Both of em

uneven mason Aug 1, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Draeni walk like they're on stilts with a 3rd one up the rear

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Worgen combat stances are best for Alliance as well

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cept for mebbie Dwarf

tawny panther Aug 1, 2018, 1:07 PM

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DIDorf. Get those lit beards and racials

uneven mason Aug 1, 2018, 1:07 PM

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Yeah that racial

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good stuff for tanking

tawny panther Aug 1, 2018, 1:07 PM

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Also I thought mount worked for both faction unlock if that's why you were gonna do both

uneven mason Aug 1, 2018, 1:07 PM

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Yeah mount is same ID just flipped for faction

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wife only did Horde side, got the Hippogryph or wahtever on her Voidelf