protection

[civic holly]

ah yeah

[timid jay]

SW or LS both work fine, I use SW for scythe since it more than covers my need and I can keep LS as a emergency CD

[signal plover]

Titanguard trinket is also dope if you gotta solo tank during tree rez

[civic holly]

yeah that was part of the crit block build for the extra mastery

[signal plover]

I do SW for 4th along with NF that way I don't die prior to 5th scythe. But either way will work

[civic holly]

ok

[signal plover]

Find what works for the strat and just do the same shit over n over

[civic holly]

yep

[sick sentinel]

Ty @undone sun

[civic holly]

AM to make sure i get all cds available each time i tank i guess is kinda obvious

[signal plover]

AM always

[civic holly]

i was contemplating HR to try survive more scythes but thats obselete if i want to die at the 5th each time

[signal plover]

AM always

[timid jay]

AM is definitely the way to go

[civic holly]

should i wrists while learning too?

wrists and pants?

[timid jay]

You need your big CD's up more often

[civic holly]

or should i t20 and wall ring

[timid jay]

I'd say go gloves+wrists unless you need the extra SR for something

[civic holly]

i think AM will bring SW up quickly enough for my turns

ok

and i def want to keep 7 bastion right

i have 25 ilvl worth of relic upgrades but i dont want to drop bastion

[signal plover]

Ya

[civic holly]

😦

[signal plover]

Bastion is very strawng

[civic holly]

yeah

changing from 7 to 6 makes a big difference on this chart

changing from 7 to 5 is like taking an extra scythe by the 4th one

[tender phoenix]

Is it better to stack the T21 2set to get more ilvl or is bettr to stick with the T20 4set & T21 2set If i will at max only get T20 to HC??

[civic holly]

i think its based on the ilvls of the t21 but not entirely sure horkams

im off to sleep, gnite all!

[abstract geyser]

What’s best way to handle p3 heroic Argus, everyone on their weakness add or focus target one by one?

The problem with focus target people miss beacons

[undone sun]

Entirely depends on the ilevel difference, t20 4 pc if worth dropping at 25 ilevels

[tender phoenix]

my pieces are mostly base stats for HC with a few WF

[vocal nimbus]

20 avoidance

is fucking bis

super fucking bis

its 20% less damage from everything

[sick sentinel]

not everything

[old zephyr]

Most things that matter though

[left canopy]

Why haste is really good I dont understand?

[timid jay]

Rage generation and shorter cooldown on SB

[smoky garnet]

Gotta hit SS fast

[old zephyr]

more haste means more SB, more rage, so more IP, and more use of CDs through anger management

[sick sentinel]

Question - if I'm necrotic tank on Vari is there any special thing I need to do

[smoky garnet]

dont drop necrotic on the group

and try to spawn the add in a decent place

[left canopy]

@timid jay Thanks

[timid jay]

👌

[sick sentinel]

do you still need to spell reflect, ignore pain etc or nah

[vocal nimbus]

SR when you have the embrace

Its not necessary tho

You wont die

[hollow notch]

guys how much did it take you to get the protection hidden artifact? 😦

[dusk locust]

i would suggest finding one of those scripts to run in game to check whether it's available. the emote in the cave never triggered for me

i probably could have had it much sooner

[hollow notch]

you mean you got it without the emote?

[dusk locust]

yeah

[hollow notch]

(i got the macro and it's always false 😦 )

[dusk locust]

i never saw the emote, and one day i decided to run that script which tells you if it should be there. i believe it returned true for me

it's been a while though

[hollow notch]

well i visit the cave every day for a month now and i find nothing 😦

did it take you that much?

[dusk locust]

i visited whenever i'd remember, once every couple days probably for a month

the one time i checked the flag it was there

[hollow notch]

pfff

ok thanks mate 😃

[dusk locust]

ya

[gleaming thicket]

i need any and all suggestions for legendaries/addons to get that will aid me in completing highlord returns before bfa

i just boosted a brand new warrior and refuse to let the expac drop without having completed the challenge

should i buy prydaz and bracers?

i am currently using bear tartar as well

[round hornet]

legendaries arent very important, 2pc t21 will be more impactful

[smoky garnet]

just run argus for gear and try to get t21 2pc

that should be enough

[pearl plover]

got a 960 inescapable dread from my weekly chest, how does it hold up against a 915 haste stat stick?

[smoky garnet]

its a pretty meh trinket

[pearl plover]

hmm thought so

thanks

[tropic hollow]

can you have 100% uptime on shield block with high gear right now?

[timid jay]

100% effective uptime is reachable in raids

[sick sentinel]

With 117 haste

[timid jay]

100% overall uptime requires HR so its not really worth it

[sick sentinel]

U need 117% haste to have 100% ultimate without heavy rep

With heavy rep it's 35% I think

[tropic hollow]

ok ty

[sick sentinel]

But u are not dependant on SB as u used to be

Not as dependant*

[slim verge]

Anyone have a good CD/shieldblock rotation for last phase of M Argus?

like:
-1st scythe shield block
-2nd shield block
-3rd SB + demo shout

[timid jay]

I use
SB
SB
SB+SW
NF
Die

[slim verge]

Still new to this. Is taking more than 5 bad?

[shut summit]

spawns more rent souls that need to be soaked

so better to just soak4 / die on 5th

[slim verge]

ah

[smoky garnet]

Don’t make the 3rd tank’s job harder

I know, I’m ball boy

[sick sentinel]

Hello question

is it worth taking 4pc tier 21 with 950 pieces over 955 pieces?

[sage sphinx]

Can someone look at this log and tell me what I should've did different to not get one shot:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JXT6jZzYgadq2bh9#fight=31&type=deaths&death=2

[undone sun]

@sick sentinel 5 ilevel difference is marginal but 4pc doesn't always have a use

[timid jay]

It would be a lot easier if you swap at 2 stacks instead, but the issue was not having SB up during 3 stacks

If you go to 3 stacks, you probably need to have SB up for the entire time you're tanking with 3 stacks

If you really want to have a easier time surviving on that fight I'd say you might as well go do world quests on argus for bastion relics since your 4/7 in bastion

Dont focus too much on having 100% SB uptime when you're at 0 or 1 stacks, you're really going to need it for the time you tank with 3 stacks

You and your cotank are getting hit by the same exploit weakness twice that attempt as well

Either you're taunting too late or the other tank is just chilling infront of the boss

That said

You could really do with better BC and DS usage, you're holding both for a long time

Dont forget that you have LS and SW on short cooldown with AM so you can cycle those for the 3 stack as well if you dont have SB up

Theres always NF you can use as well

[sage sphinx]

@timid jay sb was on cooldown..

And my cotank was insisting on swapping at 3 stacks. Because a Prot pally, he could easily handle it

And it was expected that if I’m a good tank, I should be able to take 3 stacks everytime no problem as well

And yeah, bc and ds usage was low.. I was definitely saving it for “my turn”

[timid jay]

Not really worth it, use them on cd and cover any gaps in SB at 3 stacks with LS or sw

Managing your SB stacks is the big deal though, if you're going for 3 stack swap then you need to cover the time your tanking with something

[sage sphinx]

So on a 3 stack swap, when you taunt, don’t use sb and hold sb for the 1st exploit weakness

I feel like that’s the only way to do it, because with a tank swap every 30-45 seconds, LS and sw will be on cd one of the cycles

[timid jay]

I would use one at least, don't overcap on charges

[sage sphinx]

Either that, or I need to use bloodmirror

[timid jay]

If you never use LS or SW and you're dying there's a obvious issue

You have LS/SW/NF to cover gaps in SB for when you have 3 stacks

And if you're having this much issues with it, why are you not making it easier for your guild by simply swapping on 2 stacks? Doing it on 3 is always going to be harder for the tanks

[sage sphinx]

yeah.. my cotank is saying its easier for him to pick up the adds if we swap on 3 stacks

[smoky garnet]

pick up adds on command?

just hit them when they spawn and gg

just taunt at 2 and should be fine, as i was saying since last night

[undone sun]

as long as both tanks are pressing their aoe abilities sometime after their spawn time (unless they spawn a mile away) it shouldn't be an issue

[sick sentinel]

@sage sphinx the other tank prob wants to swap at 3 so he can go and parse on adds :/

parse on the adds*

[smoky garnet]

parsing on command, a fight out of the all stars 🤔

[sick sentinel]

used to have all stars

parsing on all fights is important

[smoky garnet]

no all stars=no reason to bother

[sick sentinel]

but thats prob why the guy wants to do 3 stacks

honestly

[smoky garnet]

looking at their logs is doubtful cause he is doing low dmg to adds

[sick sentinel]

all stars get removed so much

[smoky garnet]

you can always look at the log to see if its true

[sick sentinel]

soon aggramar will be removed

cuz of phase 3 burn after nerf

[smoky garnet]

aggramar has been out for months now, what you on about?

[sick sentinel]

what

oh shit

dont worry about it lol

everything is being removed tbh

there is always a way u can cheese

[smoky garnet]

are you being removed? that would be great

[sick sentinel]

like vari spawning adds on purpose

[smoky garnet]

this tier is a full meme for padding

[sick sentinel]

garothi leaving guns up longer to let someone cleave

[smoky garnet]

no reason to give a fuck about logs

[sick sentinel]

PK small imps

imonar i dont see a way

kin leaving adds up longer to let cleave happen with boss

i agree so much cheese

[smoky garnet]

ima tell you something amazing

[sick sentinel]

yeh

[smoky garnet]

if there is a way to pad, it has already been done

[sick sentinel]

i know

[smoky garnet]

3.4m on garothi

12m on command

11m on eonar

[sick sentinel]

I know lol

garothi they let the warrior execute

HC is insane i dont understand it

i want to get a good parse on imonar

i cant find a way to do it, keep getting 96 each time

[smoky garnet]

carring about parses in 2k18 LUL

[sick sentinel]

how do u get good parse?

just get to him quick?

[smoky garnet]

dont be a fucktard and learn to play your class

[sick sentinel]

-_-

i usually get a good aprse

then i die

on bridge

someone knocks me off

[smoky garnet]

so you dont get a good parse

good job

[sick sentinel]

-_-

yeh

my worst bosses for parse are imonar and coven atm

[smoky garnet]

good for you

[sick sentinel]

no

not good

bad for me

[smoky garnet]

i

dont really care

[sick sentinel]

u dont care about anything

[smoky garnet]

not true

[sick sentinel]

what do u care about

[smoky garnet]

i just dont care you shit parses from ya

[sick sentinel]

so shit

[smoky garnet]

i just care about killing bosses

[sick sentinel]

i agree

i want to get 98 average, those two 96s are holding me back

[smoky garnet]

good for you

[sick sentinel]

i dont know if u understand what good is

[smoky garnet]

i mean you say you good

so i probably dont

[sick sentinel]

i wont be good till i have like 100 parse to you\

[smoky garnet]

if you were that good you would be a stormforged i guess

[winged marsh]

👀 don't look at my parses

[sick sentinel]

yes

[winged marsh]

Till next week at least

[undone sun]

lol

[sick sentinel]

if it was abotu parses

id be there

i have higher average than @winged marsh @undone sun @timid jay

[smoky garnet]

9/11M btw....

[sick sentinel]

slouch is 10/11

[smoky garnet]

you have higher average

they have boss kills

that should say a lot

[timid jay]

I mean I run bracers 4p because I can't be bothered anymore

/shrug

[smoky garnet]

its so late in the tier

[sick sentinel]

bracer 4 piece ew

[smoky garnet]

all i want to do is log in, kill boss, leave

[undone sun]

i stopped caring for my argus parse when we changed lust position

[timid jay]

Same

[smoky garnet]

im going full turtle for argus, that is how much i dont care at this point lol

[undone sun]

yeah, pretty much raidlogging now

[timid jay]

Argus and agg dead in 2 pulls

[sick sentinel]

yeh

[timid jay]

Couldn't be happier

[sick sentinel]

i wish same would happen for me

[timid jay]

In and out in a hour

[smoky garnet]

this week argus dies

[winged marsh]

It's a weird time I the tier to parse as fury too

[sick sentinel]

working on phase 2

[smoky garnet]

so hopefully one night clears soon

[sick sentinel]

sigh

[undone sun]

one night clears are the best

[smoky garnet]

godspeed

[undone sun]

we had a buyer last night and cleared 11/11 + elisand/guldan

[sick sentinel]

wow

[winged marsh]

My parses will get better in the new guild but prob too late to get anything seriously impressive

[sick sentinel]

ehehe

u have like 88

[timid jay]

Implying it isn't stupidly easy getting 80%+ as tank

[sick sentinel]

i like ur vari parse btw

[winged marsh]

Yea playing prot on vari hurts

[smoky garnet]

getting a 95+ as tank is a joke

[sick sentinel]

i got a 99 on it recently 😉

[smoky garnet]

WOW A 99? AMAZING

Kappa

[timid jay]

Can't compare tank parses to dps parses

[sick sentinel]

jsut slouch has a 61

[winged marsh]

And my rl didn't log my good agg and coven so 🤷

[smoky garnet]

who would have guessed

[sick sentinel]

log ur self

[smoky garnet]

that the guy that mains fury doesnt have a good prot log?

[sick sentinel]

i log everything i do

ima try doing vari as arms some time

[winged marsh]

Yea my prot log is escort duty. The weapon isn't even 75 rofl

[timid jay]

Being this obsessed with logs

Smh

[sick sentinel]

i stare at logs

my logs

i enjoy watching em

[smoky garnet]

i had a time where i was obsessed with logs

[sick sentinel]

funniest thing is that i was barely killing heroic with grey parses awhile back and now im like so much better

[smoky garnet]

there is literally no reason to even care about logs at this point lol

[sick sentinel]

it looks nice?

[smoky garnet]

i wouldnt go as far as saying much better

[winged marsh]

Yea it's too late in the tier now

[smoky garnet]

going from grey to orange on a tank is what? 100k dps? kappa

[sick sentinel]

no

more than that

[smoky garnet]

i dont even know how to prot

and ive gotten oranges

is literally a joke

[sick sentinel]

i think @timid jay knows how bad i used to be

or it was someone else

one of the stormforged

ive msged so many i dont remember

[smoky garnet]

used to? USED to? i dont think he remembers when you were good

but ok

[timid jay]

You've sent me a fair bit of logs...

[sick sentinel]

haha

[smoky garnet]

rip cusmu

[sick sentinel]

yeh, im like

COSMO HELP

HELP ME COSMO

how do i do damage

Cosmo "put gloves on and its easy"

Me "i dont have gloves"

[smoky garnet]

parsing as tank is not even hard

dont think i ever had people look over my logs as tank

[undone sun]

just play a spec that gets underplayed

ez

[smoky garnet]

you just need to actually learn how to play

[winged marsh]

Fury parsing in tos omegalul

[smoky garnet]

current survival hunter parsing omegalul

[sick sentinel]

i know how to play prot

[winged marsh]

Played like garbage on our FA kill and got an 80

[sick sentinel]

oh DK on mythic spider bitch in mythic nightmare

all dk and 5 sham comp

spirit link blood mirror

[winged marsh]

I remember checking surv logs on mythic Argus a while ago. 11 parses

[agile vessel]

I successfully tanked a boss with marok, can anyone beat that? I dont think so

im prot king here

[smoky garnet]

i did that

not as prot

[sick sentinel]

i dont understand whats funny about marok

[smoky garnet]

marok made me do some stuff i didnt know i could as blood

[winged marsh]

Taking with marok

[smoky garnet]

i had so much fun

[winged marsh]

Oof

[timid jay]

I was happy getting rank one prot warrior on argus, too bad none of our strats allow me to do that again

[sick sentinel]

isnt he supposed to be good?

[raven ore]

Marok

Good

Choose 1

[winged marsh]

Exsdee

[smoky garnet]

pick one

you cant have both

koopa

[sick sentinel]

so marok is trash?

[smoky garnet]

better than you i guess

[agile vessel]

This is internet we are just toxic to one another.

[smoky garnet]

LUL

[sick sentinel]

is he like me a few months ago

[timid jay]

[raven ore]

Marok is actually a good tank.

[smoky garnet]

yeah

[sick sentinel]

does he parse well

[raven ore]

I mean

[sick sentinel]

thats what matters

[smoky garnet]

dunno

[raven ore]

He barely raided

all tier

[agile vessel]

tank parses OMEGALUL

[smoky garnet]

if you really care about parsing on a mythic prog guild

im sorry

you an idiot

but ok

[timid jay]

Tank parses are a meme

[winged marsh]

We all talk trash to each other

[smoky garnet]

nah cosmo

dont take memes that low

[sick sentinel]

trash talking ppl lol

[winged marsh]

Like that clip ofcosmo on agg omegalul

[undone sun]

inb4 tank damage doesn't matter

[timid jay]

Only reason I got rank one argus was accidentally surviving too many scythes LUL

[raven ore]

Marok literally just started tanking this tier like 3months ago

[sick sentinel]

have u seen my aggramar clip

lol worse

[smoky garnet]

tanking with marok is actually fun cause he forgets about stuff cause he is raid leading

[sick sentinel]

someone commented, think it was unholy

[smoky garnet]

so i can pull of stupid shit lul

[winged marsh]

Nah cosmos was way funnier rofl

[sick sentinel]

raid leading as tank?

[green isle]

Tank dps lol

[sick sentinel]

that sucks....

[winged marsh]

I still die laughing when I see it

[smoky garnet]

why?

as long as your 2nd tank has a brain

raid leading as tank is ez

[sick sentinel]

u cant see shit

best raid lead class

is a ranged dps

[smoky garnet]

eh, no?

[sick sentinel]

yes

[smoky garnet]

any roles can lead fine

they just need to pay attention

[sick sentinel]

ranged dps is best

u dont have a boss in ur face

[green isle]

Have you tried rotating your camera

[smoky garnet]

have you lead a raid? to know what is best?

so yeah

[sick sentinel]

i have done raid leading

[smoky garnet]

if you have enough skill to pay attention to other shit but stare at the boss's ass

you will be fine on any tole

role*

[sick sentinel]

its way easier and better to raid lead as a ranged dps

[heady gulch]

parsing
parsing as a tank
parsing as a tank in 2.01k8
😆 🤣

[smoky garnet]

i have an idea of the best raid lead

pull boss, kill yourself on pull

then you can watch everything

[sick sentinel]

sounds like what u do

no wonder u parse so low

[smoky garnet]

@agile vessel as a tank, when was the last time you saw me dying before we called a wipe?

[green isle]

Why do you care about parses so much

As a tank

[smoky garnet]

parses this late in the tier are already a meme

parsing as tank just becomes even more so

[sick sentinel]

parsing is fun

[green isle]

Is it mandatory

[smoky garnet]

eh

its not mandatory

can be considered toxic

can result in you doing stupid shit that can kill yourself/the raid

[sick sentinel]

100000000% manditory

[smoky garnet]

for an idiot maybe

[green isle]

Why are you using an optional metric as a measurement of skill

[smoky garnet]

want to parse easily as tank? 3 tank every fight

and focus on dps

[sick sentinel]

no

[smoky garnet]

gg

[timid jay]

Clearly KRSI Jacob

[calm cove]

why is this chat always turning to 5 IQ when I look away

[sick sentinel]

tanking is parsing is easier

for prot

[timid jay]

Best tank metric ever devised by man

[sick sentinel]

u get rage from taking dmg

[smoky garnet]

@calm cove hi. i have 4 IQ is that enough?

[heady gulch]

imagine thinking that you know about parsing, but your all-star score doesn't start with a 9

😆

[timid jay]

Loooool

[smoky garnet]

[sick sentinel]

-_-

[calm cove]

@heady gulch classic

[sick sentinel]

i am 9/11

[heady gulch]

have to be at least this tall, to have this conversation

[calm cove]

unlucky

[green isle]

So you're shit

[timid jay]

9/11, clearly a disaster

[heady gulch]

imagine talking about parsing, w/o killing only 2 relevant bosses

[smoky garnet]

kappa

[sick sentinel]

97.8 dps average shit :/

[green isle]

Yes

[sick sentinel]

aggramar is way easier now

[green isle]

You're shit

[heady gulch]

imagine thinking that you have a say, when your progress is same as pugs on eu

[smoky garnet]

if its way easier

why you havent killed it?

[heady gulch]

aggramar is easier
no aggramar kill

[timid jay]

Argus is also way easier now

[sick sentinel]

one night of pulls

[smoky garnet]

but its way easier dude

[winged marsh]

And it still killed my guild

HEYOOO

[heady gulch]

not killing coven until may

[smoky garnet]

i believe argus did that slouch

[heady gulch]

🤣

[winged marsh]

Yea

[sick sentinel]

wait

[winged marsh]

Anyways back to moving

[jade socket]

👺

[sick sentinel]

@winged marsh ur not in style

[winged marsh]

Broke up

I move to vulgar on Tuesday

[sick sentinel]

come join my guild and help me out

[green isle]

Yikes

[winged marsh]

Gotta go move

[undone sun]

yikes

[winged marsh]

See ya

[heady gulch]

♿

[sick sentinel]

cya later

[smoky garnet]

why go to a guild for regression?

[sick sentinel]

idk

why not

i was in a guild called mythic regression for awhile

lol

[smoky garnet]

appropriate

[sick sentinel]

progressed 3 bosses in a week tho

imonar, kin and vari on two nights

[smoky garnet]

so

2 easy bosses

[heady gulch]

congrats on H high command

[smoky garnet]

and a retard check

[sick sentinel]

H high command?

what

[heady gulch]

imonar / kin and vari on the same night

https://i.imgur.com/7nQcxqk.png

🤔

wow, re-clears must be killer

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[smoky garnet]

maybe progressed in the same few months?

🤔

[sick sentinel]

i left mythic regression cuz they went to real regression

couldnt get past imonar for two weeks

and i couldnt make times anymore so multiple things

[sinful vortex]

did this guy do something to deserve this bullying or what

[heady gulch]

especially when immonar died on mar 17th (sat) , kingaroth died mar 24th (next saturday) and vari died on 25th
how long r ur weeks fam ? 14 days ?

[sick sentinel]

but 3 kills on vari and a 99

yeah, i live on mars

so weeks are different

[heady gulch]

yea, tank parses on vari are very hard, with all of those mechanics you have to do, like..... stand still and taunt

😆

[smoky garnet]

dont forget you have to move to the boss on pull

[undone sun]

just let the other tank do that

ez

[sick sentinel]

vari is annoying

i hate that boss

[smoky garnet]

tru @undone sun

[sick sentinel]

ppl mess necrotic all the time

today im hoping guild can make it to 2nd intermission

[shut summit]

🤦

[heady gulch]

@sick sentinel hey buddy, for a low flat gold amount, i'll be happy to invite you to our sales run, where you can get sik parses on aggramar and argus

[sick sentinel]

lol screw that

id rather get that done myself

also if u dont know i dont have much gold

only 215k lol

[heady gulch]

you can just buy blizzard tokens

[sick sentinel]

haha

[heady gulch]

ez ToS allowed

[calm cove]

you have like a month left GL 👍🏿

[sick sentinel]

i have 5 actually

ima make blizz release bfa later

[heady gulch]

and considering it took you a bit over a month to move on from vari to coven, i think your chances of getting argus kill b4 pre-patch are fairly low

[sick sentinel]

nah

its fine, plus idk if i wanna pay like 1 million to get 2 bosses killed

not same satisfation as doing it urself

[heady gulch]

1 mil

offf

[raven ore]

1mil for agg/argus

wew

lad

thats a fuckin steal

[winged marsh]

Metric Argus costs a lot more than that

Mythic

[sick sentinel]

meh

no need

ill get it myself

[heady gulch]

@winged marsh what about imperial argus ?

[winged marsh]

Last I checked kill without mount was 10m

[sick sentinel]

there is liek how long till CE wont happen

1.5 month or something

[raven ore]

a month

[winged marsh]

A month

[heady gulch]

prob 1.5 month

[sick sentinel]

yeh 1.5 is plenty

[raven ore]

If you're not at Argus now

[jade socket]

How many guilds are you planning to hop

[winged marsh]

You've basically got all of agg prog to go th rough still

[jade socket]

Cause that’s the only way

[calm cove]

like 7months for 9 bosses

on avg thats gonna take a bit longer

[winged marsh]

And even after a nerf learning argus isn't a joke

[raven ore]

Guilds I've seen right now are 400+ pulls on that boss

[sick sentinel]

ive hopped so many guilds its not even funny, many guilds on KT hate me lol

[calm cove]

idk why tbh

[heady gulch]

oh wow, i wonder why

[undone sun]

so you're corejo 2.0

[raven ore]

Dw I kill guilds for a living

[sick sentinel]

yeh haha

[heady gulch]

corejo has cutting edge tho

[sick sentinel]

yeah\

i like corejo

teaches me arms\

[calm cove]

someone has to

[raven ore]

I don't like myself

[sick sentinel]

corejo making me into arms warrior

[raven ore]

Gotta get more allstars points somehow

[winged marsh]

👀

[agile vessel]

I can teach you how to parse

slide in my dms

[sick sentinel]

ur arms tho

not arms

fury

[agile vessel]

also talking to corejo

[winged marsh]

He's arms lol

[sick sentinel]

i wanna parse prot

@shut summit is who i wanna talk to

[raven ore]

Arms is a dead spec

[winged marsh]

One of the few left

[raven ore]

easy parse

[sick sentinel]

problem is

[glacial sage]

spam the shield of slam

[sick sentinel]

sense doesnt like to talk

[agile vessel]

well you make sure to hit bc and demo shout on cooldown while spamming shield slams

hereu go

[sick sentinel]

i know prot

[winged marsh]

Sense is quiet boy

[sick sentinel]

yeah

annoys me

[winged marsh]

Lol why

He's busy

[agile vessel]

All you gotta do if youre actually good at prot

is look at top parses

and try to mimic

[sick sentinel]

ppl do that with me haha, jk

[raven ore]

Sense hasnt done anything but garothi/agg/argus for months now

[sick sentinel]

only eonar, 12th best in the world for that

[agile vessel]

eonar 😬

[sick sentinel]

i know

[smoky garnet]

@raven ore easy rank 1s as arms right?

[sick sentinel]

nope

[smoky garnet]

out of the 10 arms players i believe you can get rank 1 LUL

[sick sentinel]

still good arms players out there

[smoky garnet]

[undone sun]

[sick sentinel]

?

[raven ore]

parsing as arms is literally

[sick sentinel]

what @heady gulch

[sinful vortex]

🤔

[raven ore]

get boosted gear

or get lucky

[smoky garnet]

boosted? @jade socket ? what?

[winged marsh]

We really need a boosted emote for him

[smoky garnet]

^^ agreed

[agile vessel]

Pretty sure vil can pass me for US first, feelsbadman

[smoky garnet]

i mean

he can white swing and still parse high

perks of being like 982 equipped

[heady gulch]

@sick sentinel i'm sorry if the humour is too advanced, i was afraid that non 11/11m raiders wouldn't understand it, but i wasn't sure how to simplify it to world 2500th lvl

[winged marsh]

With amt

Omegalul

[smoky garnet]

970 wing monkaS

[sick sentinel]

omg just stop

[jade socket]

@fierce juniper

👺

[undone sun]

🍿

[smoky garnet]

[agile vessel]

🥖

[sick sentinel]

i will find a way

[fierce juniper]

This was painful to read. Actually stop and keep things on topic.

[potent zephyr]

[agile vessel]

On topic, not a word has been said since.

back to dead channel!

[smoky garnet]

Busy floor tanking

[sick sentinel]

Lol always dead channel rip

[next goblet]

soooo why.. WHY do so many warriors spec into indom?

[undone sun]

uninformed

[next goblet]

still? i mean christ i see so many that are indom specced and it makes me cringe

[sinful vortex]

they do it just to make u cringe

[sick sentinel]

on Mythic Dogs, red dog tank. there is 0 shadow people over there. how ever the red dog Tank keeps getting pulled into the group. anyone have thoughts why?

[round hornet]

dont they just grab u anyways

[onyx vessel]

cuz ppl think its good 20% more stam 20% better ignore pain

but 40% less damage and squisy

worth?

LUL

[sharp raptor]

hey guys, my warrior co-tank is dying in p2 argus, when he becomes the boon and soaks the 2 soulbursts in the raid, what are you guys popping there?

[sick sentinel]

@undone sun is a good person to ask

[prisma crane]

10 melee on Argus

ugh

@sharp raptor i use everything

SW / LS / SR

can only do it once though

oh, for the raid hit? only should need SR and maybe SW or LW

LS*

but the bomb hit is worse

[undone sun]

i use DS and SR only for the extra damage not redirected

will likely have a decent IP buffer up which can help greatly

[eternal girder]

Prot Warrior challenge completed , huzzah

[sharp raptor]

Yeah not the all 3

he's dying to the soulburst

but from deathnote it's hard to tell cause it just shows a bunch of aggrammar fortitude stacks

does shield block mitigate that?

[main vault]

Nice gj

[final mist]

No it doesn't.

What is he using when the Soulbursts actually detonate?

[merry cave]

So 23 arcway double seer pack is fucking stupid this week -_-

[sick sentinel]

23 arcway :O

[merry cave]

Prophecies of doom hits for 7m + orb + eyes on top, and the dps barely have time to dps between trying to line f sight all the dumb damage 😦

[sick sentinel]

any main arms warr here?

[main vault]

Probably in Arms

[daring aspen]

Hanging out in BFA-protection i think

[sharp dew]

I just read two hours worth of the most active chat this channel has had in a while, and it was all about parses mainly from one person. What have we gone to in waiting for BFA 🤣

[undone sun]

lol

[brazen lion]

Hows a riftworld codex for us?

[sharp dew]

Good on AoE, avoid on ST

[undone sun]

defensively not great, and as a hybrid trinket there are much better options

[sharp dew]

Mainly dungeons

[brazen lion]

and its stats arent that great either

[sharp dew]

Yeah crit is trash

Procs a ton in m+ so you’ll see the most benefit there

That reminds me, I remember I asked a while back about nerubian husk, I got one on my dk from the chest 960 😳 and it’s proc rate is actually pretty good. Had 32% uptime throughout a dungeon, that’s a lot of armor!

[sick sentinel]

hey guys

what was the Stat Prio for Prot warriors?

[undone sun]

str>haste>mastery>=verse>>crit

[sick sentinel]

what about stam / armoor?

[undone sun]

that's pinned in with str

[sick sentinel]

what do you mean pinned in ? sorry for noob questions

[undone sun]

grouped together ,essentially it's ilevel over secondary stats, ilevle being str/armor/stam in most cases

[sick sentinel]

Yeah right. unless you need to get the 2pc tier 21 bonus

4pc isnt worth it ive heard.

[undone sun]

situational, right

[sick sentinel]

would you ever use 4pc over lower itemlvl ?

over higher itemlvl*

[undone sun]

depends on the ilevel drop and for which bosses fight or aoe like M+ trash

[sick sentinel]

i drop 2 itemlvls when equipped 2 extra peices for 4pc bonus

from 956 to 954

[round vortex]

I’d keep the 4 pce for sure

[sick sentinel]

u sure? D:

haha

ok il keep 4piece

I got the prot legendary belt today. Its so sick, so much uptime on demo shout

[rose orbit]

Guys, riftworld codex or eye from felhounds for trink?

Prob codex right? Or is the raw stats from eye more beneficial

[smoky garnet]

Depends on what you doing

[sick sentinel]

i would use eye over codex overheals us so much if same ilvl

pure str is good also bonus armor is cool to have both for raids and m+

[pure abyss]

Codex all day in m+

[sick sentinel]

i disagree

[pure abyss]

Bonus armor for m+ is almost always pretty useless. Have you actually used a codex in m+?

[final mist]

Codex is good in M+, but Diima's is still better than both.

I'd use Eye overCodex for raids, Codex for M+.

[next goblet]

i prefer to use the stam version of eye, that extra vers is nice

it equates (for me) to about 3% vers, so it only puts me at 14%

951 ilvl and 8.8m hp with stam version... i hate that warriors are the lowest hp tank class (without factoring in EHP of course)

[rose orbit]

Erm I mostly raid

Already have aegis, just comparing between the two that i mentioned

[pure abyss]

Eye for raids - Str/arm almost always

[rose orbit]

And aite, ty for the info

😃

[next goblet]

38% haste as a void elf.. good?

[stark sage]

sure, dunno how void elf plays into the equation

[sick sentinel]

Idk wither

Either

Only gnome gives haste buff

More haste the better

[stark sage]

*without sacrificing ilvl

[sick sentinel]

Yes

Although in rings I would

Rings can carry item level with the amazing stats

[tender phoenix]

which to Tier 21 items is the best to have?

[sick sentinel]

Chest

And cloak

You want to aim for both of those

After that id say helmet and shoulders

[tender phoenix]

should i run with chest and legs till i get cloak?

[sick sentinel]

Cloak > Chest > Helm > Shoulder

Yes u want tier 21 2 piece

100%

It's very very very powerful

But once u get a good tier 21 closk replace legs

[tender phoenix]

yes ofc

get cloak legs be thrown as far as i can to the bin

[sick sentinel]

Keep legs tho

Incase u wanna do 4 piece

But once u get helm, chest, cloak and shoulder I would toss legs

But u rly just need chest and cloak for the tier 21 2 piece

[tender phoenix]

isnt the 4set pretty meh?

[stark sage]

it has potential in some instances but versus most raid bosses, you are better off shooting for better statted/ higher ilvl gear

its not bad just necessary sometimes

unnecessary*

[sick sentinel]

Keep it just incase

I can get 4 piece if I want

But I rarely use

I always think

Better have it than not need it than need it and not have it

[tender phoenix]

also if i am wearing the 2set with my other items as ilvl/stat sticks would i be best running the wrist/belt for dungeons and wrist/ring (walls fell) for raids??

[sick sentinel]

I would use belt and gloves for raids

Gloves and bracer if u struggle to stay alive

[stark sage]

TWF isnt that great, there isnt many cases where the extra shield walls are necesary

[sick sentinel]

He walks fell ring I used when I was progressing mythic Vari, it's decent help

[stark sage]

if you run the 6pc combo, its nice

[sick sentinel]

I used wall fell ring*

But it's not needed very often, I now use 2 piece gloves and belt for everything

Leggo gloves and belt will give u lots do rage with tier 21 2 piece

Works very good

[tender phoenix]

time to try it out 😃

and thanks for the help

[sick sentinel]

Good luck

[storm slate]

do you still get Stamina from Purchasing Artifact trait past 75?

[sick sentinel]

I think so

[storm slate]

:/

was hoping not but thank you for info

[sick sentinel]

I'm not to sure, I stopped worrying about artifact after I got past 75

I'm not that sure

[storm slate]

yeah got it np

[sick sentinel]

I think you get jt

That's how warriors get like 10.8 million HP

Thyme is 980, 2 I level more than me but has .8 million more hp

My artifact is 78 and his is 80+

[storm slate]

damn kind of cool

[ember arrow]

a trait gives 8k hp

pretty sure thats it

if he got much more hp that means he is using a leggo with bigger stat

like gloves >wrists

[sick sentinel]

I use gloves and waist

In 978.87 ish

Im*

go away unholy

[smoky garnet]

past 75, traits still do give stam

[sick sentinel]

Troll has arrived

Unholy

What's he highest HP uve ever gotten in DK

Also AHR with VB and argus Aggramar buff

Mmm

[smoky garnet]

45 mil i think

[ember arrow]

on my dk it was like 42 mil

for like a splitsecond

[smoky garnet]

probably more, i dont really look at it

[sick sentinel]

I got to 38 million for a few seconds one time

But my DK isn't as geared

[smoky garnet]

eh mine isnt that geared

he is like 970 at best

and sitting around 968

[sick sentinel]

Mine is almost 960

[smoky garnet]

i use t20 2pc, so ilvl will be lower no matter what

[sick sentinel]

T20 2 piece is so gokd

Good

I like it, very good to have that vers always

[upper spoke]

yeah i used t20 4p until forever. so nice to heal yourself

anyway. monkey king is the coolest follower, since we're letting other classes inhere

[mortal carbon]

so netherlight got 2 relics with bation ip or 2% armor trait as third trait?

[sick sentinel]

Bastion

Bastion is the most powerful defensive thing you can get

@mortal carbon Bastion > Armor > IP for defense and offensively u just sim

[mortal carbon]

thx

[silk mortar]

Do warriors have the most amount of armor or are they beaten by another class?

[timid jay]

Druids have a lot more armor

Paladins are roughly similar to warriors

[silk mortar]

With druids, do you take ironfur on that?

[timid jay]

I believe they have higher just in bear form

Could be wrong though

[latent horizon]

How high are prot warriors rated atm in BFA? Maining brewmaster in Legion, but thinking of going back to warrior.

[vocal nimbus]

#410902883165405214

TL;DR prot not fun to play atm

[ebon geyser]

says who?

i was having more fun on my warrior than on my pally main

[north sage]

So true.

I main a rogue, and I am loving warrior hundreds of times more. I've also grown to hate Feral Druids bc they keep on running from me. LOL

[ebon geyser]

i think prot warrior and prot pally are gonna be my mains

[junior ivy]

you know the fast eating feast?

that gives vers?

for m+s?

is there a single person versojn that can be used in m+?

[undone sun]

not that i know of

[junior ivy]

well whats the fast one called again?

ill buy some i guess

[undone sun]

Sugar-Crusted Fish Feast

[junior ivy]

ty very much

[timid jay]

Warbringer is superior

[raven ore]

@frozen badger Tone it down a bit.

[timid jay]

Dont really need a raider.io to tell that a off DR stun is better

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[junior ivy]

cosmo is right

warbringer is so much better

[raven ore]

And thinking you can ping here and everyone in a 80k person server is cute.

[hot locust]

@raven ore what have you done...

[timid jay]

Nice b8

[naive laurel]

what's the question officer

wat

[timid jay]

Big Thonk

[hot locust]

lmfao

[fierce juniper]

wat

[proud grail]

I've gone through the Protection Guide and I'm still a little confused which next enchant I should be using. Would anyone mind helping me out?

Neck*

[timid jay]

For defensive use we go for heavy hide

[proud grail]

Thank you

[burnt orchid]

what sort of state is protection looking like for bfa atm?

[sick sentinel]

thats a topic for #410902883165405214

reason its there

but it is looking good in my opinion

we will need to see how scaling ends up but it has a lot of tools

[frigid blaze]

Is there any way for you guys to evaluate my performance in M+ in the way we can raids with logs?

Returning player looking to get feedback.

[fathom hollow]

you can log m+

although recording yourself might be better

[frigid blaze]

Oh, sweet. I've been thinking of streaming M+ so I can evaluate my performance afterwards. If I do, I'll archive and post here. Thanks Ploppy!

[fathom hollow]

you'd probably get more out of logging them

[frigid blaze]

Can do that, too!

Does it track trash? that honestly seems to be what hurts me the most. Well, assuming there's magic involved. I'm missing the Spell Reflect legs, so that hurts a bit.

[sick sentinel]

it records everything

[frigid blaze]

Awesome!

[sick sentinel]

@timid jay watch out for this man

[frigid blaze]

😉

It's supposed to be a reference to the cosmos, but all anyone ever mentions is Cosmo from the Fairly Odd Parents, so.

My cross to bear.

[sick sentinel]

I wanda why they'd think that

[merry cave]

I dunno how much logs will help with m+ unless the replay works. What issues are you having?

Also this is a real shit week for a lot of runs

[frigid blaze]

@sick sentinel boooo

I'm totally fine on bosses and most trash. I just spike a lot on anything with magic, which I know is our weak point. I'm 958 with bracers and demo belt + t21 2pc. I've cleared 15s in time, but I tend to struggle above that. Granted, I've only ever ran with a Rsham.

[plain vapor]

ayeeee

wish i could get a better parse on coven

[unreal sequoia]

does anyone have some good weakauras for prot?

[daring aspen]

best one is prob the "Dont release" if youre playing prot

but on a serious note use wago and sort by spec and rating

https://wago.io/weakauras/classes/warrior/protection

[sick sentinel]

@unreal sequoia go to #ui-addons-manager

There is tons of weak auras there

[split plinth]

in the characterpanel the block amount isn't including bastion of the aspects right?

i have 3 Bota relics and it says 44% dmg is blocked for me

[stark sage]

if you are 7/7 44% is what you will have

[timid jay]

For warriors its 30% base before any bastion traits

[split plinth]

mhm oay i remembered smth about the lines of critical blocks giving you 94% dmg block

with 7/7 bota

[timid jay]

88%

[split plinth]

i c

[stark sage]

you may have been factoring in avoidance

or shield wall on top

[deep cliff]

it's not possible to macro together battle cry, demo shout and avatar is it?

[stark sage]

it is, all of those are off the GCD

for now

[deep cliff]

/cast Blood Fury
/cast Battle Cry
/cast Avatar
/cast Demoralizing Shout
/use 13
/use 14

what I have atm, but it does not use avatar or demo

[plain ice]

make sure you name it Swifty One-Shot Macro

[deep cliff]

you bet

I just wanna save some time during the mage tower 😛

[plain ice]

is there white space before the /?

[deep cliff]

not in the macro no

I spaced here for discord

or it thinks I want to give it some command

[plain ice]

also, when making the macro, you can type /cast and then shift click (i think) the spell from your book to have it paste it automatically in your macro

but that should work

[deep cliff]

what I did

link from the spellbook I mean

[plain ice]

definitely talented into avatar? (sorry to ask)

[deep cliff]

yeh ^^

Do you need to make a "stopmacro" type of thing?

[stark sage]

no

that macro should work

[deep cliff]

it does not

[plain ice]

do both of your trinkets have actives?

[stark sage]

double check all the spaces

[deep cliff]

have they stealth pushed out the bfa change?

[stark sage]

no

[timid jay]

/cast Blood Fury
/cast Battle Cry
/cast Avatar
/cast Demoralizing Shout
/use 13
/use 14

[stark sage]

just make sure its all spelled properly and there isnt extra spaces

[timid jay]

Should work

[deep cliff]

Quite sure

But I'll redo it to see

[timid jay]

That said, avatar isnt really used for prot warriors unless you really need the burst for something specific

[deep cliff]

Using it for mage tower

[timid jay]

I'd probably go RF for MT anyway

[deep cliff]

Oh... yeh

I am a moron

I made the macro correct...

[timid jay]

Its a lot more damage overall, especially since avatar isnt reduced by AM

[deep cliff]

But it kinda helps to place the fucking macro on your bars 😛

[timid jay]

lol

[deep cliff]

I had a older macro

on the button, that was setup for arms/fury

so it only used battle cry 😄

there we go

durrrr

[stark sage]

yikes

[deep cliff]

Could say that

Played so much on so many different classes this week

soon done 6 classes of mage tower

hmm, yeh. Kinda looks like RF would be better

ignore pain has a helluvalot higher uptime than avatar

thanks for the tip

[onyx vessel]

whats a good magic damage reduction trinket?

[vocal nimbus]

versatility stat sticks

[sick sentinel]

A good magic reduction trinket could be Aggramar trinket because of the massive absorb @onyx vessel

[onyx vessel]

what about dogs trinket in stam and vers?

cuz my aggramars trinket is only 915

still havent got the coven trinket

[vocal nimbus]

Eyes in stam/vers is good for magic too

[smoky garnet]

coven trinket for magic dmg wont do much for you

[silk mortar]

Yeah, an armor increase wont do much

[junior ivy]

for cath 19

do i want ranged? or what

whats best comp

so far warrior tank, ret pally, resto druid

what other dpses do i want?

[jade socket]

Probably a lock and another ranged

19 doesn’t matter much can take whatever

As long as the player is skilled

[undone forge]

hey guys, back from a long break.. how's prot warri right now? been playing for half an hour and feels like its pretty much 4 buttosn

[junior ivy]

ty @jade socket

[silk mortar]

Lots of survival hunters

you want

[jagged bay]

with t21 its so much fun thomas nn guys

[dusky mica]

Stack haste. Get T21 2PC. Keybind abilities. Spec devastator. Spam abilities, mostly Slam and Ignore Pain.

If you think warrior is devoid of 'pressing buttons' you're doing it wrong.

[junior ivy]

i gotta solo tank mythic helya help omfg

im freaking out

[junior ivy]

YAY LOOK WHAT I GOT.

😄 😄 😄

"the chosen"

[sick sentinel]

grats

[jade socket]

👏

[sick sentinel]

update ur addon

[junior ivy]

why

is it wrong?

oh nm i see 11 days old

sadly my score has not changed in the last 11 days

[glacial sage]

Anyone else doing like 1 mil hps on heroic hounds?

[undone sun]

yeah, that's about average for me

[glacial sage]

Way higher than most fights, but I'm not complaining because it makes my healers mad when I beat them

[undone sun]

oh yeah, both my guild's hpal and rdruid dislike it

[glacial sage]

I'm on top of the healing charts for just about every fight except for eonar

[undone sun]

yeah, eonar is definitely my lowest

[glacial sage]

Shes the only one I've gotten a legendary parse on for heroic

[vocal nimbus]

just ask

[steep sierra]

You guys reckon mannoroth bracers and prydaz is a decent combo of leggos for raidtanking or m+? No problems with aggro as bc usually takes care of that with the ignore pain spam usually making it about 40-50% uptime during fights :p

[ember arrow]

@indigo mural ilvl>haste

trash doenst do any dmg to you as prot usually, and wrists wont save you from oneshots, so belt/gloves is good choice

[steep sierra]

And use the blood mirror legs for fights such as ymiron - MOS tyrannical for the spellreflect and argus when i need to grab 7-8++ stacks

[ember arrow]

prydaz is bad

into the garbage bin when youre in tank spec

almost any other leggo is superior in every way

[steep sierra]

Well dependa, usually chainpull 20+ mobs kite'n'spank in m+ having our resto druid go feral affinity for dps

[ember arrow]

what does that have to do with what i said

prydaz shield is tiny

[steep sierra]

Prydaz can save u from a raging cast if spell refl aint up ...

[ember arrow]

raging what?

[steep sierra]

Do u know affixes? :S

[ember arrow]

u have a 30 sec cd DS, 45 sec cd SW and LS

belt is superior for trash, gloves are good for any situation for more rage/dps

trinket can be good

prydaz is pointless leggo for tanks

u cant rely on it

[steep sierra]

SR has about 4 sex uptime, other than that warriors are pretty vulnerable to spelldmg, aka if i have a big pack of casters as in seat on a raging week belt wont save me...