protection

[celest portal]

Quick question, darkmoon deck immortality, or panth trinket

also for 5 player content, eye of fharg or shatug

[timber nest]

DMDI + pantheon if you want more survivability

if you want dmg, then pantheon + a stat stick or a high ilevel memento or something

5 man content i use diimas for aoe, and memento for bosses

[ember arrow]

@celest portal pantheon is bad surv wise, good dps wise. DMD is really good at metigating physical dmg. For dungeons, sahtug is more for surv, and fharg is like a poor man's DMD, but the str makes it also increase ur IP by more than the shatug's versatility as well as increasing damage dealt

[sick sentinel]

finally

FINALLY we have the skip

to argus

i hate agg so much

[undone sun]

🎉

[sick sentinel]

i mean well have to kill him every week still but getting to argus will be faster atleast

😄

[undone sun]

Indeed, we didn't extend either and the skip made it much quicker

[sick sentinel]

i hope we still atleast kill coven

weve killed them 9 times and only 1 prot token has dropped

😩

[winged marsh]

We got that problem on AHC

I think I have the only prot token that has dropped from that boss on mythic

and it went 970 socket

[regal knoll]

Finally the lego waist 😛 Had the Walls ring yesterday as well

[sick sentinel]

Does anyone know how exactly argus decides who gets aggramars in p2 on mythic?

First one is first tank -> 2nd one is ???

[timid jay]

random

[mortal carbon]

rnd i suppose

[timid jay]

Between the other 2 tanks

[sick sentinel]

mm

that's what it hought

and it's still within the realm of possibility

[regal knoll]

Lasts one min, and eventhough agggrammars is still on you, the 2nd bomb is always for the otehr tank....at least that's what I noticed....

[sick sentinel]

but i have legitimately got teh 2nd aggramars

16 times in a row now

and it's not fun taking it

[timid jay]

rng is rng

some nights I get all of them and some nights my cotank does

[undone sun]

Same

[mortal carbon]

same

got more tries on it then both of you together

:kms:

[timid jay]

Thats true

LUL

[mortal carbon]

i could tank it blind until p2 i think

[timid jay]

I dont even have 300 pulls 😏

[mortal carbon]

neat

[undone sun]

365 ish now

But 7 kills

[timid jay]

Killed it yesterday?

[undone sun]

Yeh

[timid jay]

Only 2 weeks after you then 👀

[sick sentinel]

195 pulls

still no p3

😢

ok turns out 196 pulls was how long getting to p3 takes thanks for reading my blog

[timid jay]

👍

[junior igloo]

You can guarantee who the debuff goes on by having 2 tanks 😃

[daring aspen]

You can also kill off 2 tanks to guarantee the one you want gets it

[sage sphinx]

What is the current most garbage legendary for prot warriors?

[undone sun]

Chest

[zealous trellis]

IP can't crit yeah?

garbage Drape of Shame, shaming me with 970 from the weekly crate

[timid jay]

I cant crit no

We have no heals that can crit

[signal plover]

That's cuz no heals can crit

Sorry not sorry

[regal knoll]

I got 970 vers/mastery boots

[compact geyser]

Got Aggramar last night, doing mythic Argus tonight. Any tips? I'm nervous af.

[regal knoll]

Run away? 😄

Me gonna try HC first time this week(end)

[sick sentinel]

@compact geyser check pings for cosmo's spreadsheet i used it for aggramars to make my gear for survival worked really well

[ornate grail]

hey friends, how is prot atm?

[lone umbra]

I need help for tonight! this week we lost our prot/holy/ret pally where we would 3 tank a few fights...particularly imonar, having him clear the bridge while the rest of the raid spirit linked and healed off the debuffs....this was on every even numbered bridge, or the 'red' bridges. I'm prot warrior, my co-tank is blood dk, we have no BoPs in raid. The best solution we've come up with is to have me get on my 950 prot pally and try to do what our old pally did, which didn't really work out. Really hoping for some advice for a 2tank strat with this tank/raid comp.

[upper spoke]

does the versatility buff from concordance of the legionfall suffer diminishing returns?

[timid jay]

@ornate grail we do fine in raids, a bit more punishing than most tanks but very rewarding to play well

[upper spoke]

i guess the root of my question is: does versatility suffer DR for prot warrior?

[timid jay]

Nothing outside of the normal "DR" from stacking different reductions

Versa is always 950 rating for 1% DR at 110

@lone umbra You can use the normal strat of having a DH clear and just ress them after

having resto shamans makes it a lot easier with the ress totem

[upper spoke]

im sold. 79/75/75 are my weapons. wanted to bring arms/fury to 75 before deciding whether to further upgrade my prot weapon

sounds like i should dump it into prot

950 for 1% is precisely the kind of answer i was loooking for. thanks cosmo

[timid jay]

👍

[heady beacon]

Guys, question, what do you think of mrrobot for prot warrs?

It currently suggests a high mastery/high vers/low haste build for my current ilvl (956)

Confused as haste prio is all you read on guides

[signal plover]

Hue hue hue

[timid jay]

Think I can safely speak for every prot theory crafter in skyhold when I say that you should never trust ask mr.robot

[signal plover]

At this point I think any response can be summarized as "don't ask Mr robot'

[heady beacon]

Bummer, looks like they put so much effort in it.

[quiet delta]

975 without bastion or 950 with bastion?

[timid jay]

Id definitely go for the 950 if you plan on doing mythic raids

[quiet delta]

ok ty

[upper spoke]

950 vrykul shield training w/ bastion or 965 shatter the bones w/ bastion?

i use 4p/2p often, which devalues shatter the bones

[timid jay]

Defensively probably the 950 one

[upper spoke]

thanks again. was thinking same thing

[brazen whale]

is there a way to know exactly when to pop NF on M argus' scythe to ensure a crit block ? the randomness of his cast fucks me up each time

[timid jay]

As long as NF is up for the scythe its going to be a crit block

[brazen whale]

thats the point. sometimes i use NF and it fades before he casts

[timid jay]

What phase are we talking about?

[brazen whale]

1 😄

[fathom hollow]

i mean the scythe is on a timer no?

[timid jay]

How many scythes are you taking in p1 for you to need crit blocks

?

[brazen whale]

well not really 😦

3

[fathom hollow]

and the only thing that could take priority over it are him casting that orb thing and tortured rage right?

[timid jay]

@fathom hollow The timers get interrupted a lot and delayed up to 6-10 seconds sometimes

Everything else has prio over scythes and its really inconsistent in p1

Much less so in p2 and even less in p3

Whats the reasoning for changing at 3 stacks? Doing it at 2 is generally a lot safer

And if you cant really hit NF consistently maybe use SW/LS and alternate for the 3rd instead

[brazen whale]

going up to 3 for the buffs timers as I have read it is better done this way. and anyway I need to get used to it for p2 and p3

[signal plover]

I've also found there's one particularly shitty overlap with a rage and melee swing that hits like a fucking truck

[timid jay]

We change at 2 stacks for p1 and p2

¯_(ツ)_/¯

And in p3 the damage is different

[signal plover]

2 stacks are bae for P1/2. P3 scythe also more predictable

We go 1>3>2>2 etc in P1

[timid jay]

We go for swaps on 2 and generally its only if he delays a scythe a bit that my BDK cotank doesnt get the buff

[brazen whale]

ok I have read on many places that going to 3 for the 1st tank and then 2/2/2 was somhow better

[timid jay]

I have a much easier time with leap

I mean maybe? We kinda just wing it

Go for 2 unless the other tank gets a buff in which case we go for 3

[signal plover]

There's lots of variation to P1 timing

[timid jay]

I use SW for the 3rd scythe in p1 if I need to take it though

[signal plover]

^

And SR the rage cast before it

[timid jay]

With all the delaying getting NF for it is a bit inconsistent

[brazen whale]

ok so what I understand from you is that i cant really rely on NF but should rather use SW/LS/trinkets to reliably go above 2 stacks

[timid jay]

At least in p1

P2 is a lot more predictable

And p3 is like clockwork

[brazen whale]

ok.. didnt see p2 yet. thks for the input

[timid jay]

You dont really need your big defensives in p1 anyway, might as well play it safe and use SW+SB

or LS+SB

[brazen whale]

right

[lone umbra]

@timid jay thank you, that's generally what we're thinking is gonna have to happen, just gonna be re-progression a little bit for us >_<

[brazen whale]

@lone umbra allso use skystep potions if you're not doing that already

[round hornet]

iirc you only need one person to take 3 stacks

thats how me and my cotank do it and we can usually get 4 stacks of the buff swapping on 2 after

and it usually works fine unless he does some weird shit like do like 5 scythes before the first cone

prolly better to just look at his casts rather than tuanting on a specific # of scythes

[upper spoke]

curious: tanking mythic (esp argus), do u guys use t21 4p or wf/tf t20 4p + t21 2p?

[stark sage]

if your t20 is super high then you can use 6pc, but GL with that

[upper spoke]

it's about 925

[timid jay]

I used t21 2p

and gloves+belt

Argus doesnt really hurt that much tbh

[upper spoke]

interesting

[sick sentinel]

aggramar hurts you feel the damage when you get high stacks and dont have SB

[timid jay]

For agg I would definitely recommend t21 4p

Its one of the strongest places for it

[smoky canopy]

how worth it is leech

[stark sage]

not as good as avoidance

[smoky canopy]

does it count on IP

[sick sentinel]

i think not

im not sure tho

[leaden vapor]

I've been away for awhile, is 2pc t21 and 4pc t20 still what I should run or should I replace my t20 with my higher ilvl gear?

[junior ivy]

anyone know how long it takes for trash to respawn in a MoP heroic raid?

[prisma crane]

probably like 30 min after everyone leaves the instance iirc

[junior ivy]

hm okay cool

just need 1 last throne of thunder achievement

[stark sage]

@leaden vapor depends on the ilvl difference, but if you have full mythic t21 you should probably drop t20

especially if you dont need the extra self healing

[delicate urchin]

is it possible to have SB on each scyth on argus hc last phase? i just died on 15 couse SB was on cd, what im probably do wrong?

[stark sage]

depends on haste, but pretty sure eventually you will miss one

with HR you can have 100% blocked tho

but that is for memes

[delicate urchin]

so only haste depend, okk

[stark sage]

i mean you could just be mis timing your blocks too

that will screw you up

in hc how many stacks are you getting to

[delicate urchin]

lul got 980 relic without bastion but for fury there bis Unrivaled Strength 😕

[west kayak]

Damn and noice!

[delicate urchin]

ye, nice motivation playing fury XD

[proper pecan]

Use it for prot

Do dmg, u wont die w/o 1 lvl of bastion

[midnight citrus]

Does anyone else have a hard time not stealing agro back off the other tank after they taunt off? I went damage build with Anger Management and was using the gloves/belt legendaries and would periodically steal agro from the offtank at the worst possible moments (like Kin'garoth after I already had 1 stack on me). I didn't know if that's on me or on the other tank not generating enough threat. The other tank is a prot pally that is nearly as geared as I am (970). Anyone have suggestions for this other than having hunters MD him at certain times in the fight to make sure he maintains agro? Thanks

[timid jay]

Sounds like hes going full turtle

Shouldnt be a issue against a prot paladin tbh

[ember arrow]

other tank bad

my advanced analysis ^

[timid jay]

You happen to have any logs?

Could maybe gleam something from that

[cinder nova]

Glean.

Term is glean.

[quietly reeeeees]

[timid jay]

GLEAAAAAAAAAAAM

[cinder nova]

FUCK I HATE THAT.

I work as a barista and when customers go "UM... YEAH COULD I GET A LATTE WITH AN EXTRA EXPRESSO SHOT?"

I wanna slap the SHIT outta them.

Fuck I hate that.

[stark sage]

i love eXpresso

[cinder nova]

KYS.

[timid jay]

Rude

😡

[stark sage]

[timid jay]

eXpresso best eXpress

[ember arrow]

CRINGE

[cinder nova]

IT'S PRONOUNCED EE-JIS, NOT AY-GIS OR AY-JIS.

Aegis.

[ember arrow]

ay gis

[timid jay]

How do you pronounce wrath?

Like moth?

[cinder nova]

I literally have never heard anyone say it like that.

But my old vanilla glead used to called C'thun

[timid jay]

@stray wedge Heretic detected

[cinder nova]

SEE-THUN

I wanted to smack the shit outta him.

Like with a LONG C and SHORT U.

Oh my god.

I couldn't raid with him.

[stray wedge]

i say 'ay-gis'

[cinder nova]

AND YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG

[timid jay]

lol

[cinder nova]

REEEEEEEEEE

[stray wedge]

i know

sounds better though

[cinder nova]

I will admit one of the only words I could give a fuck how is said is uh

Eidolon

[timid jay]

Pronouncing wrath like moth always sounded strange to me

[cinder nova]

It's pronounced "eye-dole-uhn"

[timid jay]

I just remember that from 1st of april

[cinder nova]

And that sounds absolutely bonkers.

[stray wedge]

lol

[cinder nova]

Cosmo

Did people seriously say WROTH?

[timid jay]

I mean I dont

[cinder nova]

Like the short o sound in wrought?

[timid jay]

I know macro complained about hammer of math

Yes

[cinder nova]

Fucking hell.

[timid jay]

That it should be hammer of moth instead

[cinder nova]

DSAFJKOSDPL[FASXD

The noise I made.

Oh god.

Both my arms tensed.

Hell, bud.

[stray wedge]

well if you want to be correct, rhyming with moth is correct

[timid jay]

It sounds a bit more angry

Which is fitting I guess

[ruby berry]

Well I mean, wroth is an actual word.

Just not in that sense.

[cinder nova]

Yes, but it's not Hammer of Wroth, is it, now?

My cata guild lead used to call Alysrazor "ALICE-RAZOR"

My word.

[timid jay]

You'd love my guild during NH

Draught of souls

[cinder nova]

WHAT

HOW

IT'S NOT EVEN

WHAT

[ruby berry]

drought

[timid jay]

They pronounced it like it was spelled

[stray wedge]

"wroth" doesn't rhyme with moth

[timid jay]

And I got memed for correcting them

[stray wedge]

the 'o' sound in "wroth" rhymes with the 'o' sound in "rope"

whereas the vowel sound in "wrath" rhymes with "moth"

[cinder nova]

It's an imperfect rhyme.

And it's dogshit.

And you know it.

Also, I get that shit all the time, Cosmo.

My past guilds and mates give me flak for correcting them on boss names, item names, spell names, etc.

[timid jay]

My guild still calls CoF Concordance of fates sometimes

[ruby berry]

I normally just ask for clarification if they're gargling marbles

[cinder nova]

IT'S NOT EVEN

IT'S

IT'S CONVERGENCE

HOW DID THEY GET CONCORDANCE OUT OF THAT?

[quartz pond]

my guild calls they brambles on cenarius imps

[ruby berry]

because lord knows when I say many words they don't sound like the rest of the world due to my accent.

[quartz pond]

my guld calls the blobs on il gynoth imps

[ruby berry]

@quartz pond now that's just madness.

[quartz pond]

my guild calls the eyes on gul dan

imps

[timid jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj_yDBY14nk
Like this Macro?

[stray wedge]

yes

[quartz pond]

my guild calls the orbs on KJ mythic

imps

[cinder nova]

Oh, you mean not real English pronounciation.

[vocal nimbus]

👋

[timid jay]

What

[stray wedge]

but if you describe someone as wroth, i.e. the adjective

[quartz pond]

basically we got xhul horac PTSD

[stray wedge]

that's pronounced rhyming with the word "oh"

[timid jay]

How do you get orbs to imps

[stray wedge]

like r-oh-th

[quartz pond]

also manoroth PTSD

[vocal nimbus]

Pronunciation theorycrafting

Nice

[cinder nova]

British English derived from a stupid accent the upper crust made for themselves eons ago.

[quartz pond]

its basically "watch the imps"

[timid jay]

We're protecting the true British pronunciations here

[ruby berry]

Yeah but English people have their own accents, so I don't think comparing pronounciation is fair.

[quartz pond]

works for e verything, blobs fire eyes actual imps

[cinder nova]

The American English accent was actually how normal people said shit all the way before and after they arrived in America.

[stray wedge]

lol

[ruby berry]

If this is getting into history and linguistic historical intention, ya'll can have fun with it. 😃

[quartz pond]

I watch "The terror" for the accents

[prisma crane]

meanwhile, try saying car in Boston

[stray wedge]

i think we can move back to #protection discussion :P

[prisma crane]

or bag in Minnesota

[ruby berry]

That's where I'm from! @prisma crane

[cinder nova]

Bayg

Cah

I have family up in minisoda.

One of my cousins is a complete weeb so I told him that he "Makes my kokoro go doki-doki, dontchyaknow."

Got him all fucked up.

[prisma crane]

spot on

[cinder nova]

Anyway, about them shields.

[quartz pond]

I got argus down on second pull

[cinder nova]

Block shit, looks bad ass.

Shields, man.

Yeah.

[quartz pond]

@timid jay

[cinder nova]

#protection discussions. Shields, motherfucker.

[prisma crane]

and sadly, with the talk of BFA Prot, and our current state in M+ and other stuff, prot is dying 😦 feels like shit

[timid jay]

👏

[quartz pond]

I Walked around looking lost

I also interrupted argus

[timid jay]

Had fun soaking orbs?

[quartz pond]

from muscle memory

with arcane torrent

[vocal nimbus]

Le memorie

[cinder nova]

M Argus?

[quartz pond]

orbs are fine as long as u got Spell reflect

the pants helped a lot

[prisma crane]

yea

M

[quartz pond]

if u dont

[ruby berry]

MMMM pants

[quartz pond]

u get hit by 7 M

yikes

[prisma crane]

well, 7M before vers and avoidance

[quartz pond]

more like

7m

legit 7m xD

I died twice to it on 1st pull

[cinder nova]

Can monks stagger orbs?

[vocal nimbus]

Avoidance is for the burguesy

[prisma crane]

my highest hits were around 5.3m iirc

[cinder nova]

Bourgeoisie

[quartz pond]

id I saw shit like 6.6m

[cinder nova]

lol holy shit shenko

[vocal nimbus]

Whatever

[quartz pond]

it was fun anyway

[vocal nimbus]

Burguesia in spanish

[cinder nova]

https://i.imgur.com/Es9gkA7.jpg

[quartz pond]

no logs

cuz our RL is bin

[prisma crane]

i hate soaking orbs

[quartz pond]

and has 20GB log

[cinder nova]

But seriously, can monks stagger them or no?

[quartz pond]

or id check

[prisma crane]

should be able to

but not fully since magic, right?

[timid jay]

Its 7M shadow damage

[cinder nova]

They can talent magic.

[timid jay]

the orbs

[cinder nova]

We might have a monk soaking

[quartz pond]

then it was 6.6m

on me

[cinder nova]

So I just want to be sure.

[prisma crane]

you must have no avoidance

[quartz pond]

I have 0

[prisma crane]

yea, ok, makes more sense

[quartz pond]

and not too much vers I guess

[prisma crane]

and that means you have about 11% vers

11.4%

[quartz pond]

sounds like it

[vocal nimbus]

You are all gearing wrong

Get 22%base crit like me

[quartz pond]

I dont even have 75 traits as prot bro

[prisma crane]

i mean, i can get over 44% if i use my M+ cache gear

[quartz pond]

idfg

[ruby berry]

I Don't Fuckin Gear?

[prisma crane]

since game wants me to gear like all expansions before with Crit>mastery

[quartz pond]

u got it

[ruby berry]

👍

[vocal nimbus]

Why would you save crit gear :GWfroggyBlobThonk:

[prisma crane]

because i didnt at first, but im going on about 7 wks straight

so i just keep it for shits

going to see how much crit i can get

im also beginning to think a rekill on argus isnt ever going to happen

so there's that too

idc, going to just play SoT more

[vocal nimbus]

Still waiting for our aggra first

[prisma crane]

that ^ said, i much prefer wiping on argus more than agg

idk why, ihate the agg fight

i feel like there's so little i can do to affect how well we do

[vocal nimbus]

You can backstep off the platform :GWfroggyPepoSmug:

[timid jay]

no

😡

[prisma crane]

who would ever do that?

[vocal nimbus]

@timid jay

[prisma crane]

nooooo

never

my co-tank also did that, so you're not alone

[timid jay]

It was even pinned over at #blood for a day

LUL

[prisma crane]

haha

[timid jay]

The clip

[prisma crane]

ur "oh my god" was 👌

[quartz pond]

what do u do

when ur tanks cant hold aggro on pull

if u use CDs

[prisma crane]

make them learn to hit taunt again once it's up

[vocal nimbus]

Yeah

90% of tanks dont know that taunt amplifies aggro

[cinder nova]

^^^^

it's for like 1.5s but it's still a huge spike

[vocal nimbus]

3s

[cinder nova]

It's like 900% or some batshit number like that

[vocal nimbus]

300%

[cinder nova]

Really?

[quartz pond]

my tank says

[prisma crane]

still large

[quartz pond]

"ur spamming SS and I have defensive legendaries"

:

:l

[cinder nova]

Then you should start the pull?

[prisma crane]

what's ur cotank?

[vocal nimbus]

And you have pants

[quartz pond]

Monk

[vocal nimbus]

:GWqlabsYaoLUL:

[cinder nova]

LOL

[prisma crane]

🔥

[quartz pond]

I had pants boots xD

[vocal nimbus]

Good ol portuguese

[cinder nova]

@quartz pond You should tell them to let you start the pull if they can't hold threat off you on pull.

[quartz pond]

my CR7 signed nikes

I dont wanna start

I just wanna hit it

[cinder nova]

My RL was the MT and he just passed the role off to me because he knows he can't hold vs me on pull without taunt.

[quartz pond]

but why wouldnt u taunt on pull

wth

[vocal nimbus]

I dont taunt on pull

[prisma crane]

always taunt on pull, get that mad burst threat

[vocal nimbus]

But im warrior 🤷

[prisma crane]

good paladins can pull from you

[cinder nova]

^

Paladin and monk both can have very strong threat bases that contend with warrior

[prisma crane]

plus, there's no reason not to

[cinder nova]

DK has to really try

[prisma crane]

not like it hurts at least

[cinder nova]

DH is pretty hit/miss

[vocal nimbus]

But my goodness suprasses theirs 😎

[prisma crane]

fair enough, it's just habit at this point

[cinder nova]

Regardless, either your tank needs to taunt open or you need to start

There's no point in hamstringing your DPS because they're shit

Just lost damage on boss

[prisma crane]

plus the taunt saves melee if they like to fucking teleport to the boss while im mid charge in

👋 rogues

[cinder nova]

We started calling Forging Strike the potato masher.

[prisma crane]

cant wait to see what one of those dudes was about to type.... ffs 🤦

[cinder nova]

And if you died to it you got the potato rank in guild and discord

[prisma crane]

im not a fan of that strike, warrior kryptonite

[cinder nova]

It's not that bad.

You can take 3 strikes

4 is basically a death sentence unless a miracle occurs

[vocal nimbus]

Kingaroth?

[cinder nova]

Ye

[prisma crane]

not once he's empowered

and there's no reason to

[cinder nova]

Empowered by what?

[prisma crane]

but without CDs you need to have a massive IP to survive the 2nd

[vocal nimbus]

I always took 2 after interphase so the other could tank the add without worrying

[prisma crane]

killing 2 adds of the same color last

[cinder nova]

We never do that.

So it's never been an issue for me.

[prisma crane]

yea, i take 2, but not without a CD

[cinder nova]

I can do 2 without a CD if I'm careful, or just call an external

[prisma crane]

no reason to take more than the 2 max

[cinder nova]

with DS

3 I can do with LS Wall and a strong IP but sometimes I fall over

4th I've never seen

[merry cave]

I never realised it wasn't blockable just assumed it was, wondering why I couldn't take 2 with 88% redux

[cinder nova]

LOL

AHAHAHA

[prisma crane]

there's only 6 total between each add phase

[merry cave]

Then out I'm just a moron lol

[cinder nova]

That's good.

[merry cave]

Now prot pally gloats he can take 5 on mythic to get me back for argus scythe gloating

[cinder nova]

Wouldn't shock me

Paladins are unkillable with SoTR up.

But are made of wet paper without it

[merry cave]

Yeah

[midnight citrus]

@timid jay https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vk1h27bWjRntA6VN

[timid jay]

Ill take a look

Uhm yeah

That prot paladin isnt really using the optimal talents

Your cotank should probably head over to HoW and get his basics down for prot paladin

It seems like its mostly bad play on his part thats making you rip threat

[midnight citrus]

Gotcha thanks for the heads up I'll try and be nice about it and point him in that direction.

[timid jay]

👍

[midnight citrus]

Just annoying having to hold off on using battle shout and such to let him establish agro....then worry about catching up after popping it

[timid jay]

Yeah definitely

Can hurt us on some fights as well where you need you CD's up fast

[hollow bolt]

hey boys! ill be tanking mythic vari tonight. Any sugestions? (tried it last night, i exploded a lot)

[timid jay]

Just alternate between SR and LS/SW and you're golden

For the shadow slashes

[midnight citrus]

Don't let your health reach 0

[compact geyser]

Pants make it retard easy

[hollow bolt]

Just feels like the shadow slash dosent come out all the time when hes at 100 energy, and sometimes i get clapped, even with ds and sr up

i also have 9 mill hp, i think im a tad squishy for this

[timid jay]

9M is more than fine

the shadow slash is just 12.5M shadow damage

[hollow bolt]

k i must be fucking up then

not sure what tho, prots not my strongest spec

[timid jay]

You using DBM or bigwigs to track shadowslash?

[sick sentinel]

Yeah he hits hard

[hollow bolt]

Yeah, im using some wa to track it

alsong with dbm

[sick sentinel]

Just don't press SR if he is casting the pools before the strike

[hollow bolt]

just sometimes the timer goes off and he sits on it

Oh shit! ty!

[sick sentinel]

That's why

[timid jay]

He only does that if hes casting other stuff

[sick sentinel]

He has to cast the pools or necrotic

[timid jay]

Bigwigs adjusts the timers for when he does that

[hollow bolt]

yeah just feels like it can get delayed alot

[sick sentinel]

And he waits

[hollow bolt]

oh thats so nice

[sick sentinel]

Yes it is delayed

[timid jay]

Its like 5 seconds or so he delays it then

[sick sentinel]

So get DBM and look at the timer

[timid jay]

idk if DBM does it, think my cotank was complaining about that

[sick sentinel]

The timer is so helpful

[hollow bolt]

Will dbm reset also? or should i just use my noodel and if hes casting hold it

[sick sentinel]

DBM is great

[hollow bolt]

Me warrior me noodle be small

[timid jay]

lul

[sick sentinel]

If u see something before the strike, hold of on spell reflect

[timid jay]

Warrior are pretty good on that fight though, if you're having issues playing legs is great on that fight

You get a lot more spell reflects for it

[hollow bolt]

kk. im using pants, it does give me a nice safety blanket. Im just not used to prot tbh

Me fury, not as smart as 1 handed brothas

[timid jay]

Not the easiest boss to start with

[hollow bolt]

I also dont have to great of a trinket pool, somehow havent gotten an eye. Do have an unstable and dankmoon deck, also have the tank path of the titans trinket. Question. Should i drop my gloves for Ring or wrist?

[timid jay]

Bracers dont do much on that fight

With all the time you spend healing immune

[hollow bolt]

ended up dying due to 5 seconds of no healing, not sure if i cant prot right or if healer just used to healing our bear

ended up swapping to em but yeah they feel useless

[timid jay]

Was it after a slash or while you were tanking the boss?

[hollow bolt]

While tanking

before a slash

[timid jay]

You had SB up during that time?

[hollow bolt]

I did, let me check

i can see what happened

[sick sentinel]

U should have shield block and a large IP

Also having a large IP for slash helps

[hollow bolt]

Deff, I try to pool all my rage while im not tanking

then go nuts with it and put up a huge i[

[sick sentinel]

Don't sit on it

[hollow bolt]

ip

sorry, i sit at 60

i spend if i go over

[timid jay]

Yeah thats fine

[sick sentinel]

Always good to have emergency rage incase things go south

[compact geyser]

I have a question regarding the leggo and trinket choices for M Argus. I see a lot of first kills using TWF. Most of them didn't seem to be running 6 pc that I could tell. Was the cd reduction on SW that important?

[timid jay]

Depending on strat maybe

[sick sentinel]

Depends on your role too

[timid jay]

I wouldnt say 6pc is worth it at all

You need the raw EHP to take scythes comfortably

(on argus)

[compact geyser]

I def feel my t21 pieces now outweigh my t20. It looks like I'll be the 2nd tank (I think that makes sense?) Haven't actually got to pull it tonight due to some emergency call offs.

[timid jay]

You soaking orbs in p3?

[junior ivy]

another mountttt. up to 225 😄

[merry cave]

Damn it some have all the luck

[junior ivy]

haha, it was an achievement one

glory of the thundering raider

throne of thunder meta

[winter hull]

can you block the argus scythe sweep?

[undone sun]

Yes

Check the pins for blockable damage and abilities

[winter hull]

ty

[daring scroll]

was there any warrior changes this update i feel like im getting one shot more and more?

[round hornet]

if ur 1 shot just means your not havin mitigation up

[uneven badge]

Hey opinions is riftworld codex anygood?

[undone sun]

Decent for high aoe in keys but otherwise, no

[uneven badge]

Thanks

[naive pendant]

Does it help to pop spellreflect when the raid is stacked for shaman's spirit link totem?

[merry cave]

Probably nothing huge.

[heady beacon]

Guys, looking for some prot warrior M+ gods that push high keys regularly, is there any youtube channel where I can watch and learn? 😃

[restive scroll]

Not that i know about

[visual plume]

https://gyazo.com/6264b3b6818d0ee0f59d46230bfbff25

Reckon I can tank M Argus with this setup

[undone sun]

Why legs

[visual plume]

No particular reason, just what I had equipped at the time

Although to be fair my non-lego legs aren't fantastic

I mean, what lego's would you normally use?

[undone sun]

Gloves/bracers/belt

Legs don't have any use for main tanking

[visual plume]

Yeah, fair

[old shell]

what legos would you recommend for third tanking for p3 on argus?

orb duty

[undone sun]

Legs can help for double SR charge for problem times, otherwise dps legos

[quartz pond]

I did it with legs and boots

its like our 12th rekill though so DPS didnt matter

if ur progressing it u might wnat dps legendaries to push dmg

[fleet pivot]

does anyone feel they messed with mythic+ Xavius?

[winged marsh]

its a pretty lame fight ye

[quartz pond]

why?

u mean Mythic raid or Mythic + dugeon

dungeon*

[winged marsh]

he did say M+. Just lotta randomness that can fuck you over

[quartz pond]

as a tank u shouldnt have to worry about much

[fleet pivot]

Ya just, like more one-shot than tyrannical

[quartz pond]

if ur night elf

shadowmeld the bolt

👍

[undone sun]

Or reflect

[quartz pond]

yup

[undone sun]

It's a nonissue for tanks and everyone else has cooldowns

[quartz pond]

^

[undone sun]

Only issue is the 50% burst, which is covered

[quartz pond]

always make sure ur not moving he boss over the falling shit

[fleet pivot]

I tend to charge everyone with safe guard. But it just felt weird this week.

[quartz pond]

he gets a dmg % increase

[undone sun]

Sure it gets to a point where it scales too hard to survive like Tyr hyrja

[quartz pond]

when he gets hit by them

[fleet pivot]

it was a 22, we timed it but all 3 b resses were used.

I was just like wtf are my dps dumb tonight?

[quartz pond]

well depending on ur setup

[winged marsh]

if you get targetting by 2 abilities back to back you can be screwed

[quartz pond]

prey on the weak

[winged marsh]

based on your class

[quartz pond]

hurts like crazy

if ur a dps warrior

[restive scroll]

that's actually why prot isn't bad at all for this fight, since you can safeguard (almost?) everything

(modulo the fear)

[winged marsh]

lul safeguard the fear guy

[quartz pond]

oof

[restive scroll]

that's a style

[winged marsh]

but ye once you get really up there with the keys, xavius feels like hyrja

[restive scroll]

I did it once, the elem survived, and i died instead :D (but i had the fear)

[winged marsh]

just flattens your dps

[fleet pivot]

I guess it just scaled that far.

_> damn

[elder isle]

is there any way to surv decimation on myth garothi guys ?

without running away

[ember arrow]

use cds

[obsidian siren]

Eh boys, anyone of you know the name of the addon at that time stamp?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t3-rqq-dFk&feature=youtu.be&t=3m22s

The "selection menu" for the gear sets

[keen cairn]

When it comes to prot warr, theirs only one way. ignore pain

ignore pain and ignore pain

[obsidian siren]

And shield block o/

[keen cairn]

^^

[restive scroll]

Opie

[left bloom]

is getting 100% mastery set for tanking argus worth it if it means the only set bonus I get to keep is 2set T21 and only mastery stat stick trinkets?

mythic ofc

[grim root]

do you ever use prot artifact in mythic+?

or just forget about it and remove from your bars

[ember arrow]

use it for blockable abilities

or use it to cover gaps in SB uptime

[sick sentinel]

well it gives ur healer 3sek extra freetime when its all about phydmg. - using it quite frequently on fortified weeks

[unborn island]

@shut summit what nameplates addon do you use? Just watched your mAggramar kill and really like how you have it set up.

[dusk locust]

what category can you check in details! to see how effective safeguard is in a dungeon?

[signal plover]

There's categories other than damage done?

Must b a bug

[dusk locust]

😛

[signal plover]

Idk if there's one in details

[dusk locust]

i've looked at absorbs and others, not really sure how safeguard prevents damage

[signal plover]

Would prolly need logs

[dusk locust]

i guess it redirects

maybe it's shown by the extra damage i take

[signal plover]

Dmg taken by spell maybe

Mouse over dmg taken

[dusk locust]

that'd make sense, i'll check next time

[shut summit]

@unborn island tidyplates

[restive scroll]

it's indeed shown in the damage taken. But i don't know if you can effectively see how much you take, since you mitigate some of them.

not even sure that you'd see that in the logs

[signal plover]

Que up some napkin math

[plucky viper]

hello

[full spruce]

Good morning

[obsidian siren]

hey guys, is there any way to see how much eonar energy was lost from killing adds when the life force happens?

it's wrecking our reclears

[tired cove]

xaivus is a pos

in 22+

[slow patio]

i have a 960 iron relic giving armour trait i looted a 980 one off portal keeper which gives last stand HP trait... is the armour trait better off the 960 or the 6ilvl of the arti wep that the 980 gives me better ?

[stark sage]

whats in the 3rd tier for crucible

and 2nd tier for that matter

[slow patio]

the NLC off the 980 gives me dragon murderous intent / sercure in the light then shatter bones 1 bastion of the aspects 2 Dragon 3

[stark sage]

and the 960?

[slow patio]

Dark sorrow / infusion 1 will to surv 2 rage of the fallen 3 leaping

[stark sage]

980 with MI and bastion is better signficantly

[timid jay]

Definitely

[slow patio]

ok thanks for the help 😃

[hybrid marlin]

anyone know how the rage.deficit variable is defined in simc?

the protection warrior APL is looking for rage.deficit>=40 - does that mean you're at 40 rage? or 40 rage from capping?

[smoky canopy]

how good is a 955 cradle of anguish for dps in prot spec

[stark sage]

pretty strong

[smoky canopy]

neat

[stark sage]

just an overbudget haste stick, if you are dropping the stacks often it isnt so great

[timid jay]

@chilly hemlock you know about rage.deficit?

[chilly hemlock]

👋

[timid jay]

👋

[smoky canopy]

idk if this was in the guide

but in single target should you only revenge on procs

or just use it after devastate if you have rage

devastator auto

[chilly hemlock]

<resourcename>.deficit returns the difference between your current amount of that resource and the max

[hybrid marlin]

thank you sir!

and thank you @timid jay for pinging him 🙃

[timid jay]

Np, he knows way more about simc than I do

@smoky canopy If you want to go all out defensive then sure, dont use revenge outside of procs

Often theres no need to, if you're on full IP and close to rage capping you might as well use revenge as well for more SS resets

[smoky canopy]

cool

[timid jay]

Very rarely do you need to go full defensive though

[tropic spoke]

Can someone answer me a question about Mythic Vari

There is a discussion amongst my officer core

why to place the markers at 8 yards and have our warrior jump out instead of just placing the markers at 10 yards

right now we are just placing the markers at 8 yards, having the 2 afflicted players run over with our warriors tank and then as he gets both of theri stacks they run back to him and the back to the raid

then as the adds spawns our warrior jumps out and then back in

there have been of course issues

[timid jay]

That seems like a needless complication

[tropic spoke]

can u expand on that?

I have 2 officers that just want to place the makers at 10 yards

[timid jay]

You can just run out with the guys that have the debuff and stand between them like normal

Leaping feel like its just going to trigger some extra miseries and bound to be more mistakes

[tropic spoke]

that has been our issue

it seems overly complicated

and no one really has had an answer as to why not just place the markers at 10 yards

[shut summit]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[feral abyss]

Hullo~ I'm sure this has come up before but I cannot find the answer: I just boosted a second warrior and have tried to get the prot hidden artifact skin. I've heard the roar, and the macro says the shield should be there... but I cannot for the life of myself find it. Do I need to like... have finished the event in the cave before I can actually find it or something?

[west kayak]

It should be in one of the gold piles.

[feral abyss]

Yeah I've flown through like.. 10 times. And I've found it on my other war, but no luck

Oh well. Thanks ❤

[timid jay]

Never heard of anyone not finding it once they get the roar 🤔

[hybrid marlin]

@feral abyss you from gorefiend?

[feral abyss]

I am!

[hybrid marlin]

^^^ crumgee

not logged in at work

[feral abyss]

ohai! 😄

I'm not super worried about my predicament because I HAVE It on my main war.. .but poor alt war has to suffer with the scrubshield

[dreamy gorge]

I have scrubshield.. FeelsBadMan

[feral abyss]

Right? I've been spoiled by Goodshield

[dreamy gorge]

I haven't been able to taste that goodnes yet

[feral abyss]

You will! I can feel it!

You will hear the roar! And it'll spawn clipped under the world like it does for me or something lol

[prisma crane]

btw you don't want the markers at 10 yrds, you just want the opposing markers >10 yrds apart so you dont trade teh debuff with each other. If you place each 10 apart then you risk spawning 3 adds in the back, regularly.

[smoky canopy]

would y'all reccomend 955 cradle or 930 glacial aegis on ahc

[west kayak]

A 955 Cradle would be sweet.

[plucky viper]

noob tank question...does the lvl 30 talent Inspring Presence heal you also, or just party members?

[ember arrow]

only others

and only ones in the same raid/party, not outside of them

[plucky viper]

welp time to go to impending victory since im leveling then

ty for the info

[ember arrow]

np

[prisma crane]

Yea, IV is the only one that affects us if solo. Safeguard is BiS for 5-man content though. Ins Pres for raids.

hell, if 40 man raiding was still a thing, Ins Pres would prob make us regularly the top heals

[lapis topaz]

Not sure I agree on safeguard while leveling though.

[hybrid marlin]

he's saying safeguard for 5-man content

aka mythic+ dungeons

IV for leveling, yes

[lapis topaz]

oh, sorry, didn't know 5-man content meant mythic+

with that caveat, yeah, sure :D

[hybrid marlin]

it's not a caveat lol

[ember arrow]

i level wit questing

[prisma crane]

i mean, any 5-man content, but in reality M+ is the only thing where you'd see the real benefit to SG

[hybrid marlin]

Yea, IV is the only one that affects us if solo. Safeguard is BiS for 5-man content though.

[ember arrow]

so leveling isnt 5 man for me

[hybrid marlin]

correct. leveling != 5-man

[prisma crane]

i prefer to quest level. instance leveling is boring AF

[hybrid marlin]

and mythic+ is an example of 5-man content. hence the "aka" 🙃

[sick sentinel]

^

[plucky viper]

same

[prisma crane]

but, i did say 5 man, not specifically anything

[ember arrow]

although 5 man became better wit scaling

i actually learned my dk wit it

instead of leveling to 110 and then guides

[lapis topaz]

I think I'd rather have IV for non-mythic stuff... Especially leveling, too many healers asleep at the wheel. But that's me. :)

[prisma crane]

when you have a healer, once you have IP, you'll find more group benefit from SG than IV, esp since you'll still get VR procs anyways

[hybrid marlin]

@lapis topaz that's literally what we're all saying

[lapis topaz]

OK, sorry, I'ma shut up now

[prisma crane]

well encoded is just accounting for dungeon leveling shenanigans that happen too often

so he's not wrong, just different scenario he's accounting for

[ember arrow]

instances became somewhat better wit scaling changes

but still not as useful for SG as m+

[prisma crane]

yea, well, max level you need healing you go bracers, done

[ember arrow]

first u must get them

epic legg osystem

[prisma crane]

[epic]

[ember arrow]

its the way u get them

not so much the items themselves

although something cud be said for that too

gating 3 good ones for 90% of specs behijnd garbage

btw im in inm hc pug

8 healers

[prisma crane]

i'd just be happy if warriors had 2 dps legos for tanking

[ember arrow]

imonar pug*

[prisma crane]

better safe than sorry

i love that the knockback from the green mines is proportionate to the speed you hit them

[ember arrow]

felrush?

[prisma crane]

had a DH hit one at the end of the bridge and fly backwards across the entire bridge

was during prog on M Imonar, was hilarious to see superman in the background of a stream

[ember arrow]

do other classes other than dk and warr have cdr

i love red thirst

thinking of leveling 4th tank, bear has been abandoned

[prisma crane]

Havoc does on meta

with shoulders

but yea, i love the way AM makes us play

you can really feel if you're doing something right

also that bit of a rush when you have like 15 sec left on a CD and an ability is coming in in like 7 seconds and you need it

then DS comes up and you get insta 6 sec off all CDs

👌

i love that play

trying to line shit up, RIP

[timid jay]

Its really fun on alpha lining shit up

oh

wait

💩

[prisma crane]

combine current AM with vengeance from MoP and i'd be in heaven

would do like 6m dps on a fight like imonar...

would also be broken with how IP works since our IP cap would be like 6x what it is now

we'd basically never die

would be fun though, it's clear why it prob should never happen, but fun nonetheless

[ember arrow]

DH DASHED AHEAD OF ALL

AND FUCKIN

KICKS IMONAR

WHILE 19 PEOPLE ON BRIDGE

[prisma crane]

i do that on mythic all the time rofl

[ember arrow]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

dh wasnt a tank

so he ran tru the whole thing

NOW I SUED DEATH GATE AND PULLED AND LEFT

INSTYLE

caps

[west kayak]

I cannot recall the name of the trinket but it will interrupt the mob/boss when hit. I got a 960 version of it and was getting upset for people interrupting him before all were across...

[ember arrow]

ember of nullification?

[west kayak]

Thats it!

[timid jay]

^

[prisma crane]

that trinket fucked with me on the mage tower, inquisitor kept slowly creeping in on top of velen and took me ages to figure out why

[west kayak]

Lots of Str/Vers with Leech...

[ember arrow]

how hard is it for people to not be completely useless and incompetent

[prisma crane]

i will quote the late great George Carlin

think of how stupid the average person is

and know that half the people out there are more stupid than them

[timid jay]

I love that quote

[ember arrow]

live reaction

[prisma crane]

it's accurate, plus people so often find themselves around like minded individuals, often of similar intelligence too, so they dont really realize how bad (or good in cases) other people are.

it gets difficult to work with people many IQ points apart

[west kayak]

Hive Mind, congregation of try-hards and fails.

[ember arrow]

average wow player according to blizzard

[prisma crane]

people who are "less intelligent" view normal behavior from "more intelligent" people as stuck up, and vice versa "more intelligent" people see the "less intelligent" as being purposefully ignorant.

even though neither is being anything but themselves

[ember arrow]

well u can say that

but doign a boss thats been out for what

6 months

[prisma crane]

there's a form of workplace bias, i forget what it's called where this happens very often in the real world

[ember arrow]

and still puttign all asleep

[prisma crane]

you have to realize that not everyone has been on that boss that long

also, it's only been 4.5 months iirc

[ember arrow]

ye ye, but hc is apparently top elites of wow players

->

[prisma crane]

lol

[ember arrow]

most people dont play raids right

i cant imagine, all i see are 965+

but that might be the thing u jsut talked about

[prisma crane]

well yea, something is simple for you

but that doesnt mean it's actually a simple thing

sounds ridiculous

[ember arrow]

is "move out of raid when u get the thing"

a hard mechanic?

[prisma crane]

but the broad scope of wow means all sorts play, and many arent great at gaming, plain and simple, it's a means to enjoy time spent in a game

no, but noticing you have it in the first place can be

or knowing what the thing does can be

[ember arrow]

doesnt even vanilla ui say dspel me

[prisma crane]

that's DBM afaik

[ember arrow]

i literally never played dps in any raid since nh

so idk

[olive granite]

worth dropping refractive shell shatter the bones relic for a 4ilvl lower one with light speed and bastion of the aspects?

[prisma crane]

and if you're in a crowd, you dont always know it's your toon that said it

[ember arrow]

defensively yes

[prisma crane]

^

StB isnt that great anyways

[ember arrow]

sahtter the bones isnt that good

since u use BC alot

[olive granite]

aite wasnt sure on the ilvl bits for prot since guides doesnt say anything about it

[prisma crane]

yea, defensively, like Levko said, 100% worth

[timid jay]

StB was great before t21 2p

[prisma crane]

nothing touches Bastion

[timid jay]

😭

[prisma crane]

lol

[ember arrow]

maybe i find it easy because i prepared be4 raid comes out, do it every week etc

isupposed in EN, when i raided first time i was scared af to tank

and of mechanics, in particular dragons, on the swap mechanic i was going panic mode

[prisma crane]

yea, once it becomes second nature you dont even realize you're doing something complicated

[ember arrow]

i suppose

i do adjust expectations on the content

from others

[prisma crane]

i dont even think on hounds, it's easy now, but a super common question here as to why someone is dying

i was told that warriors are one of the more difficult tanks to play right now, and found it hard to believe, i mean i dont play any others so i have to take these people at their word, but it's all i know so it never really felt that complicated.

it's just perspective

[ember arrow]

ye about that

playin dk feelsso much

uhm

[round hornet]

I would agree with that, a bad war is much easier to spot than a bad monk or dk

[ember arrow]

easier

[round hornet]

since other classes like wont get one shot

[prisma crane]

save maybe pallies

[round hornet]

when they forget to do somethin

[prisma crane]

but i hear we're in the same boat, more or less

only we have less truly oh shit CDs

[ember arrow]

NOT AFTER IP REMOVAL

[round hornet]

tru, I think the new tier helps with that

[ember arrow]

BADUMTSSS

[prisma crane]

SW and bubble and stuff

[round hornet]

makes them have more block when they dont have sotr up

[prisma crane]

yea

[round hornet]

so they arent as weak with no buttons pressed

[hollow lagoon]

how good is terrorbound nexus for prot warrior?

got a 975 for it the other day

[prisma crane]

it's good for aoe

M+

pull big, reap benefits

[hollow lagoon]

just always have it on during trash pulls correct

[prisma crane]

mhm

[ember arrow]

AND WIPE ON HC KJ

WOOOOOO

[round hornet]

meh

H KJ still harder than M Garothi

[ember arrow]

garothi is not a boss

its a target dummy

for tanks at least

no clue what dps or healers do

ye but 960 tanks died

to big soak

on kj

[prisma crane]

lots prob dont realize that it's physical

[sick sentinel]

FUCK SEAT

thats all i want to say

FUCK THAT DUNGEON

[prisma crane]

lol

wear lego pants on first trash

[ember arrow]

but krotos

cant u just like

see that in dungeon journal

dmg type

[prisma crane]

you're kidding yourself if you think people read that

people dont even read tooltips

I'd consider myself a good player and i only do this for 2 reasons: to not look like an idiot when i explain a fight, or to know why i just got deleted

tons of people just dont even use it at all, apart from the TLDR portion and the loot tables

[ember arrow]

i do it

be4 i pull boss first time in my life

to prevent "whyd SR not work on armageddon reeeeeeeeeee "

or am i weird

[tiny sphinx]

was fortunate to get archimonde trink for that fight made heroic kj almost trivial, just had tanks soak everything pre aerial phase

[prisma crane]

not weird, i'd just venture to say you're in the minority

[sick sentinel]

its kinda funny when people trying to be like read the things man

[ember arrow]

aaand wipe on vari

tank moved away randomly

how are people

this stupid

how hard is it

not to move

he was doing the retarded left/right jerking

so he moved outa 8 yards

[round hornet]

A

D

[runic fjord]

F

tell him to take his Ritalin

[ember arrow]

no

im tlted

[prisma crane]

nothing like being stuck at work on last raid day of the wk....

[sick sentinel]

tell him to read dungeon journal levko that should help him

[ember arrow]

uhu

[languid rose]

i don't get people that think they need to constantly strafe back and forth

[sick sentinel]

Good for practice when hittign a target dummy

Practicing hitting a target dummy while moving is good for you

[languid rose]

more like good way to die on varimathras

or kill everybody on argus

[sick sentinel]

those are not target dummies

[ember arrow]

vari is

[sick sentinel]

for tanks

dps have to deal with necrotic which is very punishing if messed up

[languid rose]

"walk away from the raid for 3 seconds"

very challenge

[sick sentinel]

@languid rose on mythic its a challange

messing that up will probably wipe the raid

Leggo pants I assume they good for Argus and Veri only? Possibly coven as well? Instead of trinket

[languid rose]

i don't think lev is pugging mythic vari?

[full spruce]

Mythic pugs hmm. I need to look for a new guild or pay for a imonar -> argus clear just so I can get cutting edge for once. Ever since H Deathwing never made it to end of expac raid. Just no time now that guild died with having a new puppy.

/giphy

MT

[languid rose]

new puppy killed entire guild

[undone sun]

@sick sentinel legs aren't necessary if you're main tank on Argus, and doable without on vari

[full spruce]

@languid rose Not quite...people just got burnt out...kinda 1-2 day casual guild. BUT shes quite the puppy...dont wanna clog up prot discord with pup pictures. Red Merle mini aussie; I have a blue merle mini aussie thats almost 3. Auss squad

Now I got gold burning in my pocket and will pay for a argus kill but be nice to see 11/11 kills...just hard to devote time progressing with someone and trying to do this puppy training phase

[merry cave]

Probably be a silly amount of gold for that

And even crazier if you want the mount

[cinder nova]

Hey

What's the time between Fiery Strikes?

10s? 8s?

[full spruce]

@merry cave I got lots of gold...12 alts all were doing gold missions...TSM AH resets...I keep spending it on T3 from BMAH just waiting for someone to price me out...not like I cant tank it either at 974 ilvl and other 6 tanks are 960-970 ilvl

[long phoenix]

tips for M argus?

[prisma crane]

have at least 3.3 m IP it seems