no I don't I'm not playing wow
#protection
analog swift
timid jay
Wow
analog swift
i was trying to help you but now you're being an ass
sinful vortex
I don know the name of it
timid jay
Dalaran is always super packed for me
analog swift
"don't have an adventure guide"
junior ivy
im jealous cosmo
sinful vortex
I literally answered ur question and u started being a cun
prisma crane
it's not, he just forgot the name
junior ivy
ohh
prisma crane
DH = desolate host
analog swift
and couldn't be bothered to look it up
analog swift
yeah of course
I don't come an ask for free help and expect other people to look up basic things for me
@junior ivy I read it as "DarkHeart thicket trinket
junior ivy
lol
prisma crane
if you say desolate host trinket, anyone who is capable of helping knows what the hell he's talking about
prisma crane
(in the realm of tanking)
long bronze
Did my discord decide not to show some messages?
junior ivy
no drama please we are nice people in skyhold โค
long bronze
Got really hostile all of a sudden
prisma crane
prior to titanguard, it was the best absorb trinket we have
prisma crane
For Sale; Baby Shoes, Never Worn
prisma crane
not when you're interested in surviving certain encounters
certainly when progressing
but i get where you're going with that
long bronze
I had to close and reopen discord to figure out all of the hubbub. I tried Google dh trinkand obviously it was all demon hunter.
prisma crane
his literal next post clarified desolate host
sinful vortex
So would u guys use 935 glaives over 915 reliquary for raid tanking? Specificallly m vari
prisma crane
glaives gives you almost nothing for that fight
m vari i would use gloves and lego legs
and then w/e trinkets you want
reliquary is more useful if you're worried about dying
sinful vortex
I was using wrist/legs
prisma crane
wrists are pointless on that fight
sinful vortex
Arent gloves only good for dps though?
prisma crane
might as well go for more rage via gloves so you have more IP
gloves give more rage as well
prisma crane
more rage = more IP and more CDR from AM
sinful vortex
It would break my 4p though if i used glovea
prisma crane
you dont really need it, but if you want to keep 4p, put on AHR or TWF
or even belt if you want
sinful vortex
Well whats better
prisma crane
preference
long bronze
Yeah like I said I had to get discord closed and reopen before it showed up. Remember discord mobile sucks ๐
sinful vortex
Hm okay
sinful vortex
Sw?
sinful vortex
Ah
Probably just use legs/gloves since the extra rage from gloves can make up for the 4p loss
prisma crane
i dont have math about that, but it's probably close
and you get the extra dps as well, which is nice on that fight
not that the enrage is hard to beat
sinful vortex
Yea
It gives me a better parse too xd
Tanking m vari ruined my mythic parses lol
Thx for the help
sick sentinel
what trinkets do yall use on m agg
im currently using pantheon + 945 diimas
hmmmm
only 69 parses on WCL for prot wars on M agg..
prisma crane
i did like 1.36m for my best m vari, it's such a snooze as one of the main 2 tanks
just a target dummy
prisma crane
i used pantheon and diima's for agg
apoc drive is pretty strong there
but it's fairly open, you can use whatever you want really
sick sentinel
would pants be a viable lego for the extra shield block
prisma crane
doesnt really work that way
west kayak
I have yet to see an Apoc Drive. Finally got a Diima's but its 930.
prisma crane
since the charges recharge one by one
so your uptime doesnt really change, esp since there's really little downtime
i have a 965 apoc and 975 diima
sick sentinel
ah true
prisma crane
super happy about the diima
hits like a truck and my only piece of gear over 970 lol
other than pantheon and legos
sick sentinel
the dream
long bronze
I can't get an apocalypse drive to drop either
fleet galleon
Never seen one. Or Diimas
long bronze
Still have HC to clear this week so maybe. I roll on him every week
west kayak
I got a 985 Skoldir Helm from the weekly Mythic Cache. ~4800 Str and ~7200 Stam.
west kayak
1573 crit, 697 mastery with socket.
prisma crane
but the ilvl makes it worth it
west kayak
It does indeed.
west kayak
It was the last useful thing I got from Mythic Cache. That was about two months ago...
long bronze
I got 975 shoulders off imonar last week. Was nice after he has trolled me with the cape for 8 weeks. I've gotten it drop and bonus rolled on same kill twice now too
I have the same helm grev just 960 ๐
My fiance got 980 tier chest on her druid off HC eonar
Was like horyshet
west kayak
I got the ring from Argus at 965 w/socket. No haste but 2487 Mast and 1865 Vers.
unborn island
Had a fun dht 21 today, got to Xavius with 8 mins to go....
Then spent 20 min wiping until we got a pull where he only nuked me >.<
Horrible when there's nothing you can do
junior ivy
im doin hov 15 rightr now. shoudl i be scared?
unborn island
Safeguard used on CD,healer still couldn't keep everyone up
It's fine this week
Actually one of the easier ones
junior ivy
k im worried cause i talked myself up to get an invite and i wont live up to the leaders expectrations lol
unborn island
Make sure people kick the healers
And use cds on the Dragon
Thundercallers hit kinda hard, But on 15 should be fine
rapid lantern
what's your record lol
unborn island
Normal or heroic?
I think my normal record is 16,but then the boss died
Heroic 12 I think
west kayak
Norm I tank it til he dies, around 25 stacks.
rapid lantern
lol
west kayak
My other tank, bear, just runs around killin orbs.
long bronze
Yeah same on norm usually and without pants.
Feels bad tho when you know that scythe is coming but don't have a SB or nelths for it
Notlikethis
west kayak
When that happens at really high stacks, usually my own fault, I flip off my screen as a last act of defiance...
flip off = middle finger
long bronze
Lol yeah it's usually I misplayed it
west kayak
My favorite fight I think, just for sheer ego, is the dogs. Stand alone with the fire dog and not require any assistance from DPS or Heals.
west kayak
It can be reduced via Spell Reflect.
stuck coral
thx ๐
prisma crane
he's really easy as tank
use the shield immediately after he casts his ragnarok or w/e it's called
prisma crane
so that the first charge is mitigated
junior ivy
OMG I GOT A NICE UPGRADE
prisma crane
grats!
junior ivy
thanks !!!
also i soloed skovald
casue like usual
i killed everyone
by pressing shield early
but we still 2 chestred
prisma crane
yea its a forgiving timer
junior ivy
that was a good run
got an upgrade and
my last hov in raiderio was 14, 1 chest timer
and now i have 15, 2 chest timer
so itll boost my score ๐
long bronze
Tfw I can't get over 859 lol
junior ivy
i just cant bvelieve i kileld everyone on skovald AGAIN
long bronze
I've killed everyone on skovald by accidently hitting nelths during shield
Cancels the shield
Kek
junior ivy
i always panic when dbm says out loud FIND SHIELD
so i click it
but really i gotta click it like
2 seconds after dbm saysd trhat
long bronze
you just wait for channel to start
long bronze
it also immunes quaking damage and the fel aoe damage and his slash damage
cloud bone
I've always clicked it before it said find shield and it's worked out
junior ivy
my shield always ends a second or 2 too early, loing enough to kill everyone but me
long bronze
its better to wait because it will immune his next attack after ragnarok
junior ivy
i soloed him for 3 minutes til he died lol
long bronze
which can be a big deal if he does the charge aoe right after
and your group is still bunched up
cloud bone
I mean now that I know it'll immune his next attack I'm going to start waiting since I didn't know that
junior ivy
so arcway.. hard or not?
cloud bone
just to be clear you're talking about the shocktrooper bladestorm right?
Arcway can be easy with a good group
cloud bone
I always hate the magic boss but that's about it
junior ivy
is seat this week hard
long bronze
I'm talking about felblaze rush and savage blade
unborn island
Very forgiving timer,just reset slimes and be careful on rats.
long bronze
no lol
west kayak
I get alot of shit for not resetting in Arcway for the slimes. It's abusing a glitch...
long bronze
in HC I just wait for the voice prompt to click shield
cloud bone
yeah I pretty much do the same
long bronze
rats in arcway are fun if it isn't bursting ... 10 m dps lol
junior ivy
my goal is to have eveyr dungeon done on +15, within the timer
long bronze
youre 967?
junior ivy
yes
long bronze
that's no problem
long bronze
Here's mine https://raider.io/characters/us/tichondrius/Getbent I just need to get a seat key ๐
junior ivy
youre higher than me with a +8 set ugh
YOU GOT MORE PTS FOR YOUR +8 SEAT THAN I GOT ON +13
lololol
long bronze
well yours was almost 2 hours long hahaha
long bronze
the avg ilvl of my seat was 928 lol
was when I started my warrior
about a month ago
prisma crane
i'm 3rd at 3.6k
junior ivy
hahah omg someone with a longer seat than mine
long bronze
prisma crane
yea
long bronze
Can I have your dilma's please
prisma crane
lol
junior ivy
oh wow i want that dimas
prisma crane
i only just got it last wk too
unborn island
3rd at 3.2 >.<
west kayak
I had to solo the last boss from 25% to 0%. People couldn't "see" the spots where they needed to stand.
prisma crane
yea Sargeras is second largest alliance server
junior ivy
its ncie bein first at 2k ๐
this guys tryting to catch up to me tohugh
i cant let him
west kayak
Sargeras is absolutely huge for alliance. Thinking about moving back to Kael'thas.
junior ivy
the top warrior, of any kind, on my realm is 2600 lol
prisma crane
honestly i feel like Sarg is shrinking
long bronze
I think people are trying to move to more balanced servers
junior ivy
thr highest m+ score on my entire realm is a druid with 3400
long bronze
but that's just speculation
sturdy sable
Or just waiting for bfa to renew sub's
prisma crane
lol, but then i'd have nowhere to raid
west kayak
still 9/1 vs horde and last I checked it was nearly 850k alliance players.
prisma crane
i have more mythic boss kills than your server
junior ivy
what is highest pop US realm?
long bronze
yup
junior ivy
is stormrage 3rd?
prisma crane
population?
junior ivy
then maybe proudmore?
prisma crane
u sure? or just looking at one sided
long bronze
Dalran has 200k more chars than stormrage
junior ivy
wow
prisma crane
well Dalaran is where blizz sends new players
junior ivy
how cna i see pop of my realm?
prisma crane
my horde warr is on Tich lol
long bronze
winged marsh
sarg definitely mad competitive on the M+ though
winged marsh
few people here going to MDI
prisma crane
this is true
but there's that mythic plus guild
and then midwinter
and a few of the other top guilds have good teams
junior ivy
my realm has 33k level 110s
winged marsh
pretty small ye ๐
junior ivy
THERE ARE ONLY 48 LEVEL 110 GNOMES ON MY ENTIRE REALM
long bronze
I came home from work and my cat was loafing on a bunched up towel on the counter
junior ivy
I BET IVE PMED ALL OF THEM
long bronze
wtf is wrong with cats
junior ivy
TO SAY YOURE A CUTE GNOME
prisma crane
lol
junior ivy
wait. nm. those are only gnome DKs lmao
long bronze
haha
long bronze
I was going to say it may not be ranked but then I kinda laughed to myself about your server size
prisma crane
they changed the API to top 500
junior ivy
wow
long bronze
usually there is nothing under 20 in times in the top 100 l
junior ivy
hahaha
long bronze
how did you find that info?
junior ivy
omg lol
prisma crane
junior ivy
oh wait that 261 000 population is INCLUDING misha
i thought mayeb it was just rexxar
but both realms have same pop on that site
prisma crane
you have over 400 slots open at the +2 range
long bronze
oh nice thanks
prisma crane
so no one runs keys
prisma crane
but its earlyish in the wk
junior ivy
you gotta do 15s to get counted
prisma crane
yea if they are red you need to beat that key # or be fast on that key
it's a lot of CN ppl
long bronze
and that's coming from someone on tich lol
prisma crane
pvp is always 
long bronze
tich really isn't bad at all tbh
junior ivy
do high pop realms have certain players that everyone knows? if that question m,akes sense
prisma crane
i didnt mind it while i was there
junior ivy
like on rexxar i can ask anyone whos playted in wotlk "lol remember dwarfnasty" and they will
long bronze
there aren't as many famous US players as EU
prisma crane
some servers have those
sick sentinel
I play on Kel'Thuzad
prisma crane
but on large servers those are mostly guilds, not players
long bronze
oh you mean like those kind of famous players
sick sentinel
PvP server, we have Asmongold
long bronze
gross
prisma crane
RIP
junior ivy
yeha like dwarfnasty was never an amazing player, and not in a good gjuild, he just talked in trade a lot so everyone knew him
sick sentinel
Proudmoore is best
junior ivy
i didnt know if high pop realms had people like that
long bronze
trade here is 99% people selling runs or spamming guild info
junior ivy
yeha i made an alt on stormrage once and trade chat was like ...................... it was so different from rexxar trade chat
long bronze
I'm never in trade or general because it scrolls too fast lol
junior ivy
stormrage trade chat was scary it went so fast you couldnt read anyhting
sick sentinel
Trade chat here is random talk with occasional carry
junior ivy
rexxar tradew chat is dead almsot always but people ask questions sometimes if they need help
junior ivy
lol no one sells aotc here, i should start
prisma crane
i sell keys all the time
prisma crane
WTS 15 keys, run by 420 raider.io score players, we BLAZE through the dungeons, PST for a quick dab
sick sentinel
Lol
prisma crane
that's what i like to post
prisma crane
because so many talk about their IO score, as if carrying a 15 is really hard
prisma crane
find buyers on your realm
sick sentinel
Same here
prisma crane
we can get you the other ppl
sick sentinel
We have plenty of buyers
junior ivy
could oi be like "100k if we beat timer, 50k if we dont" ?
prisma crane
im at 3.2m gold atm lol
prisma crane
i say it's free if we dont beat it
prisma crane
and usually 120k is minimum
sick sentinel
Here it goes for 200k
sick sentinel
Yeah here AOTC is atleast 400k
junior ivy
k maybe ill say 150k if we beat timer, 20k if we dont?
cause its a 50/50 chance if i beat timer
lol
sick sentinel
Half back if don't beat
prisma crane
ur on a small realm so you want to keep ppl happy though, so i usually just offer half back or something
prisma crane
but get any decent dps and 15s are really simple
sick sentinel
Also I would give discounts if they do good dps
sick sentinel
Lol
prisma crane
they paid, if they want to help they can
but we offer to let ppl afk
though no one does
junior ivy
im askin my good dps friend if he wants to sell them
sick sentinel
Ima go ruthless
compact geyser
Upper was a breeze this week
analog swift
upper was so fucking nice this week holy shit
prisma crane
eye sucks this wk
gentle acorn
For max DPS, do i use revenge only when i've got a proc. ensuring renewed fury is up, or do i use it on cooldown, while still ensuring renewed fury is up
analog swift
two chested an 18 but I kinda feel like I should try a 20 or something
analog swift
@gentle acorn for max dps go ahead and use it
it's not like you need that rage to do damage
prisma crane
@gentle acorn RF is passive, dont go nuts trying to min max it too hard
gentle acorn
SS?
analog swift
shield salm
prisma crane
and for max aoe dps, use SS during BC only when rev/tclap is on CD or you dont have the rage for rev
gentle acorn
ah thought so
prisma crane
shield salmon
gentle acorn
and ST, SS on CD and always pro it's proc, revenge+TC on cd
sick sentinel
Eye is always easiest for me for some reason
prisma crane
so you can rev /tc/rev
gentle acorn
ST is single target
analog swift
@prisma crane depends on your relic, and the full placement of the adds
prisma crane
he said ST
analog swift
you right cracka
prisma crane
but even for aoe, you want to use revenge first
because it's a shorter CD
so when you use tclap revenge will be up gain
again*
ember arrow
o/
prisma crane
o/
prisma crane
fuck yea! โ
ember arrow
also scythe and taeshalach dropped
so on fury spec one weapon mog is one of each so i can give ppl cancer
by standing near
ember arrow
birthday present
long bronze
damn I wonder if I'm due for a graduation present then
cheapskates
what was the % for the last bastion relic again?
ember arrow
44-88%
ember arrow
21 ๐ค
long bronze
well this spot is interesting https://gfycat.com/GroundedBogusFrillneckedlizard
sick sentinel
dragon skin or will to survive better?
timid jay
DS is better in general survivability
Tbh, I dont value survivability much except bastion
ember arrow
@prisma crane https://media1.tenor.com/images/255561ae03fe8689969870a94a5f88a2/tenor.gif?itemid=9677657
prisma crane
oh dont worry, im part of it ๐ถ
ember arrow
@long bronze i see ur also a fellow "afk and hump the ground while elites are being killed "person
long bronze
lol sometimes
prisma crane
yea Cosmo, i do my part to keep you kids feeling young and spry
long bronze
but there I had already killed him and was just trying to record the stupid ground glitch
timid jay
its impressive you keep going at 30 though
Sense is around that age as well iirc, probably a bit younger
warm plinth
@prisma crane When in July ๐ฎ
warm plinth
Not bad
untold moth
Sometiems when I taunt (or the other tank wants to taunt off me) High command bosses, they ignore the taunt. Is this a bug or a mechanic that I am not aware of? happens on both heroic and mythic.
ember arrow
trying it out
3 button combat
suits me fine
no simming, no fuss
get in, do more dps than "main dps" for some reason
and go back to tank when i want
warm plinth
Damn, pretty close
prisma crane
u?
warm plinth
I'll be 30 a week later. The 31st
warm plinth
Yep
prisma crane
we can make a 30+ club
timid jay
24, 25 this year
prisma crane
right
prisma crane
lol
timid jay
๐
long bronze
cosmo what month
long bronze
lol
warm plinth
WTB Skyhold jump to the Vindicaar
ember arrow
wud make no sense
long bronze
this game makes sense?
warm plinth
Let me have my class fantasy Lev
ember arrow
:๐ค:
prisma crane
i didnt want this viking shit tbh
ember arrow
i like it
i like class halls
evne though i only seen warrior and dk
i on purpose avoided lookin them up online
thin pilot
Skyhold is in the sky, Argus is also in the sky, should be doable right?
long bronze
I like saem tbh
sinful vortex
skyhold jump into krokuun
you just jump straight up
and fall onto argus
#science
long bronze
tfw I do world quests as prot even though fury is more dps just so inconsistant
dunk one pack every 50 sec then feels bad
ember arrow
join mos 20
healer gets oneshot by firs cast of cosmic scythe 3 times
disband group
long bronze
yeah 2nd boss in maw is a good idiot detector
glacial sage
aswell as helya
formal reef
Guys, is it better to take 2x Shadowbind as t2 crucible trait or should I take secure in the light instead? My goal is maximum DPS
is 2x same trait stack or not?
formal reef
ok, ty
broken kite
long bronze
hey does anyone know the name of the addon that has the wheel for gear sets
like you hit a keybind and then select it with your mouse from a wheel
long bronze
bro
literally hit wait until he starts casting ragnarok
and hit the special shield button
its like
long bronze
the easiest thing
junior ivy
i ruined that key
we had 12 mnins left when we got to skovald
i caused wipe with shield
we ended up going over timer by 2 mins
junior ivy
i press ittoo soon!
junior ivy
i dunno lol ๐ฆ
i have no diea tbh
idea
every time im lik e 'k im not gonna press it too soon'
then i do
ember arrow
thats special
glacial sage
picking up the shield is over rated
sinful vortex
infusion or chaotic darkness?
undone sun
Neither are particularly great, mostly depends on the t3
frank nexus
hey i just got the gloves leggo. so i have everything but the wrists. should i use kakushans and walls or kaks and thunder
glacial sage
If you aren't running 2pc4pc then kaks and thunder, if you are then you can't use kaks
frank nexus
okn thanks
glacial sage
I hit 20,000 haste ๐
prisma crane
nice!
tropic owl
Hi, is it worth changing from 4P T20/2P T21 to only 2P T21 if i go from 952IL to 965IL? Tanking mostly HC and m+
prisma crane
yea probably
may still want it for some tyr bosses
but its preference
itll feel slow dropping it
tropic owl
What legendaries should i roll with? Currently using Mann and Soul
prisma crane
shouldnt use soul with T21
vengeance is wasted
always BV
mann and gloves if you're dropping the set
TWF if not
gloves and belt if going for more aoe dmg
tropic owl
What trinkets are good these days? atm using Pantheon trink and Darkmoon, swapping darkmoon with a stat stick for dmg
narrow karma
Bigwigs/littlewigs vs DBM? Mostly running 5 man mythic
timid jay
Thats mostly preference
undone sun
preference, they both do the same thing
narrow karma
Never used either. New tank
timid jay
Should use at least one
DBM tends to tell you what to do whereas bigwigs tells you what ability/whats happening
Bigwigs usually needs a bit more knowledge of mechanics
undone sun
intrusive vs. informative imo
narrow karma
Pros/cons if you would please? Which puts a bigger demand on the processor?
DBM work for 5 man too?
undone sun
they're both pretty light weight afaik, and if at all it's on ram like most other addons
yeah
timid jay
Bigwigs requires a seperate plugin little wigs for 5man afaik
Might be standalone, I run both big and little wigs anyway
narrow karma
Sounds like DBM may be better for a noob?
timid jay
Its a bit more intrusive as Thyme said but imo it works better if you're not really that familiar with the fights/mechanics
cinder pasture
Only thing I don't like with DBM is the force disable it does when you haven't updated it in a while ๐
narrow karma
DBM does support 5 mans tho right?
timid jay
Yeah
narrow karma
Hmm okay, probably best to try that first then. Also looking for advice on tracking cooldowns so I know for instance when shield block gets reset. Is tell me when good enough for this so I dont have to mess with weak auras?
Err I mean shield slam
timid jay
Havent personally used TMW, but WA's are the more commonly used
Can always go searching on wago.io for WA's to use yourself
(Its not that hard to make a simple WA for yourself either)
narrow karma
Okay, WA seems daunting
timid jay
There is a template feature in it that makes it a lot simpler to set up some easy WA's
But TMW could probably cover you for the easy stuff as well
Never used it so cant comment too much on it
narrow karma
Ty
honest mantle
is this a record? xD
timid jay
Close but note quite, did a 152M blocked on aggramar
hallow phoenix
955 MASTERY/versatility ring vs 945 HASTE/crit ring
My haste is super low without the 945 ring
Or would it be acceptable in this case to use both and forgo a 965 ring with bad stats
I'm not having trouble living the mythic encounters ive done so far, could probably go without the extra stam
undone sun
10 ilevel drop on jewelry is fine
prisma crane
damn, that's a sexy block there @honest mantle
prisma crane
yea
prisma crane
besmirches?
junior ivy
lothien is the fox
prisma crane
idk him
junior ivy
yup
prisma crane
nice!
compact geyser
so now, i just need a better fire relic cause LEAPING GIANTS MAKE ME CRY
2/2 torment though
sorry for gushing, just excited
prisma crane
na man, big grats!
rough nexus
Hey sorry just a question, for general mythic + content, say 15+ keys, what prot leggos should i be using ?
prisma crane
you worried about dmg or survival?
gloves regardless i'd say
and then belt or bracers, depending on dps or surbv
surv*
rough nexus
Yeah at the start it would be survival, purely because i have recently sawitched back to tanking. but then gradually going intop dps side of it ๐
limber crown
Is there a way to view stickies on the phone app? I canโt find a way
rough nexus
i have the hands, prydaz ring and waist
rough nexus
Yeah ๐
rough nexus
Yup Thundergods ๐
prisma crane
nice, yea use those
rough nexus
Ah awesome ty ๐
I was using Prydaz but i assume i dont need that beause of Ignore Pain
prisma crane
its not great for tanks
undone sun
@limber crown dependent on the type of phone but usually it's the three dots on the top right
long bronze
fyi confirmed frag belt works on vault miniboxx
limber crown
Thanks thyme, found the stickies, now to find a way to make google docs load the guide
Yay being at Inlaws
deft sapphire
If you jump and heroic leap you can go over walls anyway
long bronze
yeah but
vagrant cape
Although that would truly suck if it happened, without evidence I find it more likely that you missed something rather than a never-before-seen bug showing up over a year after the dungeon's release
deft sapphire
You put yourself in a bad position after the first wall
They kind of come in sets of two, so you can wait for the second one to spawn to decide how youโre gonna cross the first wall, or put yourself closer to the middle so you dont cut yourself off
Sure they were harder than normal but those walls were doable
long bronze
yeah I don't get how we would get through the 3rd wall then
because it was literally 2 walls back to back where they are on opposite ends and closing in on each other
I see it now
super dumb though but lessons learned
wet hornet
You get a feral druid with the speed buff
unborn island
3 M+ points I noticed yday.
- Is there anything we can do on Xavius to help save people? I warbringered every bolt where it was off CD,But he doesn't change target for feed on the weak...
undone sun
other than safeguard, no it's up to them and the healer if they die
unborn island
- If a destructor spawns on top of a dps on helya, is there any way to save them? I swear I taunted it and charged the second it was targetable
- Is there anything you can do with settings to make the void zones visible on lu'ra? Purple on purple on black is tough
undone sun
before it spawns make sure they're aware of the hole locations, it only targets the closest to it regardless if taunted
idk about seat ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
unborn island
Thought the first one might have been healer, whoever got feed on the weak was just dying
warm plinth
I usually taunt the tentacles when they spawn but yeah idk why the DPS would be anywhere near the holes anyway since the piercing tentacles come up while you're waiting for the next destructor don't they?
undone sun
yeh
visual plume
Yo guys, quick question, what is the best in slot for defensiveness ring from Antorus?
Eonar ring or Portal keeper?
deft sapphire
why not both
visual plume
Just wondering
I've been told that apparently "all" the top prot warriors use the Portal Keeper ring
warm plinth
If it's a defensive ring, I doubt the top warriors are using it right now :p
Though I'm not entirely sure what is meant by defensive ring
undone sun
both are both statted pretty well being Haste/Mastery so being our 2 best secondary stats it's no wonder most people would try to use it
warm plinth
Vers>haste isn't a ring I'd seek out personally
Pretty good defensively I guess but I wouldn't call it BiS (BiS doesn't really exist anyway with titanforging)
wet hornet
There are bis stats, but not bis equipment
hasty sapphire
does mastery give us more dps potential than vers? does 1000 vers increase the dmg more than the attack power we gain from 1000 mastery?`
deft sapphire
afaik mastery is very slightly ahead of vers but it probably depends on how much you have of each
warm plinth
It's hard to say...I'm not sure how much AP = 1% DPS but it takes less mastery for 1% than vers. They probably swap places at certain points
Really hard to say without working sims; it's a lot of feelycraft with some bright minds adding their math into it lol
unborn island
BiS rings Imo are a high ilvl ring from NL and high ilvl ring of collapsing futures :)
humble flame
hey guys, im new to tank. quick question: is it really worth to sacrifice ilvl to have 4pc t20 with 2pc t21?
warm plinth
Defensively, yes
ember arrow
^
humble flame
doesnt feel good wearing ilvl900 when i could have 930+ on that place haha
warm plinth
If you're handling the content you're doing fine without the 4pc T20, don't use it
humble flame
ok, thank you guys ๐
timber snow
do you really need the rage from t20 when you have ton from 2t21 and booming voice paired with belt?
warm plinth
Defensively, T20 4pc with T21 2pc is still better if you need the extra CDR
timber snow
i mean, iam already almost rage capped or have rage for basicly any attack that could do significant damage
you would need atleast heroic version of t20 anyway so you dont feel that bad about having low ilvl
warm plinth
You don't need heroic T20 unless you're mythic geared. Defensively, my LFR T20 is better (and I've tested this myself to see which gear set I was squishiest in)
I don't use the tier combo personally because I don't feel like I need it, so I just use the 2pc T21 with belt/gloves
The purpose of the extra rage from the combo isn't for damaging attacks; it's for having tons of rage to dump to reduce Demo Shout and Battle Cry CDs drastically, as well as faster CDs on Last Stand and Shield Wall
It's a defensive gear set, not offensive
tropic owl
Hi, I have a 1000IL khaz`goroth and a 940IL Aggramar. Wich one would be better for dmg?
undone sun
khaz
tropic owl
okay, any suggestion about what secondary trink i should get myself for dmg? currently using a 930 stat stick
tropic owl
nothing good from antorus?
tropic owl
How is the pantheon trinket for prot? is it any good?
undone sun
not really defensively, relying on procs isn't the best idea but it's mostly for the raid benefit
but the main stat is pretty good
glacial sage
Much better in mythic+
vagrant cape
Hey m8s, do prot warriors still need a swing timer? If so, what's it for and how do I make the most of it?
warm plinth
You don't.
twin hazel
how does the dps pantheon trinket compare to the tanking one
vagrant cape
Thanks!
warm plinth
We never did actually; it was thought to be a good idea but really wasn't
vagrant cape
Huh, I'm curious now. My friend still says I should get one, but he's out of the looo
Loop*
warm plinth
It was something that was said to be needed a while back (several patches ago now) because we thought it would be better to not waste potential SS resets. It was such a miniscule gain that it was determined not to be worth it.
twin hazel
once you get t21 it matters even less
vagrant cape
Ah, so you used it so you wouldn't delay auto attacks with other skills?
warm plinth
Right
vagrant cape
Gotcha, thanks!
delicate bone
Hey folks. I played Prot-Warri in Vanilla. I did Legion with my Guardian Druid, but ... its kind of boring as hell to tank with my druid. There's simply no challange at all. So i rerolled to Prot-Warri again. Any tips for me (beside the useal guides ๐ )
untold vigil
prot warrior is pretty different these days compared to the old ones, since threat was more of an issue back then. your survival is more active--we cheese blockable abilities if we remember to put block up. if you don't put block up you'll eat dirt much easier than a bear
so success really depends on knowing what you can block and making sure you don't have it on cooldown for things that need it
autumn quarry
Been going prot on and off throughout this expansion, and I just read the guide, but I feel as if I'm still confused about the following: What are the go-to legendries for progress/defensive tanking? Bracers + . . . Gloves?
glacial sage
Bracers and gloves would be good if we didn't have to use 2pc4pc
timid jay
Yup
glacial sage
We don't ahve to, but it's good
timid jay
If you dont use the tier combo you go for gloves+bracers
With the tier combo you run TWF+bracers
glacial sage
I forget, can you still block all the hits from veri?
autumn quarry
Yep!
glacial sage
without legs
autumn quarry
Spell reflect them I mean
glacial sage
Can you sr each time?
timid jay
Havent heard of anything playing legs for coven
Think you can do somewhere around the first 1.5-2min wiht only SR using legs
Its basically all of them, might need to use a LS/SW instead
autumn quarry
Thanks though ๐
Oh and I've been extremely lucky with the other pieces and gotten almost 17k haste now . . . does it hit diminishing returns or should I just keep going?
autumn quarry
Gotta relog to check that ๐ Sec
timid jay
As long as you arent dropping ilvl to keep that high haste I'd say keep aiming for haste
autumn quarry
The only place I'm dropping ilvl is a 940 ring with a socket instead of a 965
timid jay
Might be worth changing to the 965 then provided it has no crit
autumn quarry
45% @glacial sage
undone sun
Can I borrow some haste
autumn quarry
Always Thyme
timid jay
T21 2p certainly makes it easier
glacial sage
I hit 20.6k today
timid jay
Fucking 4p impossible to stack haste with
autumn quarry
KEep the 940 then you reckon Cosmo?
timid jay
Yeah
autumn quarry
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timid jay
Its very crit heavy and socket is some value
glacial sage
You just have to focus the right pieces
autumn quarry
Guess I'll keep it in reserve for hurr durr belt aoe fights ๐
timid jay
Highest I can reach
autumn quarry
๐
timid jay
FeelsBadMan
glacial sage
I drop 4pc for it
timid jay
I had to drop 4p and kaku for 19k
glacial sage
with 4pc I get 19900
timid jay
Nothing I'd ever run, just for the memes
glacial sage
yeah, I got bored as said lets see how much I can get
languid rose
only stat that really matters obviously
glacial sage
nothing else is even relevant
neat hound
does anyone know the hidden affect for prot? similar to arms with trolls and fury with 2nd wind some times
warm plinth
I don't think anyone knows it, or if there even is one. AFAIK there are still several hidden effects that no one has discovered yet.
undone sun
Correct
white goblet
how mad would be going for 2p t19?
fleet galleon
Got a 950 Diimas last night. Pretty stoked ๐
junior ivy
I JUST 3 CHESTED A +15 FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER
glacial sage
gratz, what dungeon?
junior ivy
nelths
glacial sage
nice
fleet galleon
Nice job!
junior ivy
ty ty ๐
the healer was amazing
and the fury warrior was doing 2.5mil single target dps on bosses
each boss died in like 35-40 seconds
will a +15, 3 chested, beat a +17, 1 chest
on raider.io?
long bronze
No
The benefit of multi chesting is small compared to higher levels
Also on bursting for lower kara do opera then kill the entire audience. Resoawn and then take the side door to morose. Do maiden last
white goblet
why is that?
white goblet
how do people doing +20+ are so damn good? most i can do on trash is 3m (with alot of mobs) but i've seen tanks doing 10m
sick sentinel
do you suicide on the ushers or something
demo shout and then aoe for dayssssssssss
white goblet
im at 950ilv with 4p tos 2p ant and theres no possible way to do more dps
atleast for me
warm plinth
4pc+2pc isn't a DPS gear set. It's a defensive one. You'll likely do more DPS with 2pc+2pc or straight 2pc T21 and higher ilevel pieces.
sick sentinel
toss in a BC too
warm plinth
Plus a lot of those people doing +20s are pulling larger packs. More mobs = more DPS
solid drum
Is there an accurate way to sim your DPS? simcraft doesn't seem to be correct....
untold vigil
nope
solid drum
Fuck
untold vigil
what optimization are you looking to make?
there are lots of best practices, even wout sims
solid drum
I wanna go for 100% after i got legendary on every boss nhc - I'm thinking about the best trinket, and I wanna try out AHR / Kaku instead of Kaku / Tgod
THe problem is I have 935 Dijmas, 985 Pantheon, 915 memento and 910 chronoshard
And not sure which one does most dps
lavish whale
What would you guys consider are the best Leggos with Devastator build?
wet hornet
Gloves
lavish whale
Gloves and Wrists, I take it?
warm plinth
It depends on your goal. Survivability? DPS?
wet hornet
Depends what you eant
stiff gate
The difference in how hard mobs hit from 22 to 23 to 24 is fucking crazy. I did a 24 in timer for the first time yesterday and couldnโt wear terrorbound cuz I had to actually use tank trinkets D:
Anyone know if normal Diimaโs is going to be better than DMD or pantheon?
wet hornet
Gloves and belt for dps ye?
warm plinth
Also depends on what tier you're using
lavish whale
I'm using T21. I want to get back into Tanking content and I have almost every warrior legendary.
So I was wondering...
warm plinth
Gloves and belt for DPS, yes. Or gloves/AHR for ST probably (if you can use it with LS)
Bracers/gloves for ST survival or bracers/belt for AoE
lavish whale
AHR?
lavish whale
Lmao.
warm plinth
Archimonde's Hatred Reborn
wet hornet
The shield trinket that does aoe