but ... im not a fan of rogue
#protection
long bronze
Enhance cosmo
wet hornet
Guess you havent been in their pvp channel
junior ivy
they got mad at me for not understanding everything about rogue
long bronze
Back in to at least
wet hornet
Fukken barren
junior ivy
and that was when i was lucky enough to get a respoinse
i had more luck asking rogue questiosn in here than in rogue discord
long bronze
It's funny if you actually don't need anything out of it though
timid jay
Most discords are just a place to talk shop nowadays
junior ivy
id be a terrible warrior tank if it wsnt for skyhold
id be using indomitable and ravager
and never ever shield blocking
long bronze
But max dps
Need Dat 30%
Man now I want an actual shop talk discord
You think rogue discord is bad lol
junior ivy
i even find this discord way beter than the ask-for-help channel in the main wow discord.
i get answers here so much faster lol
winter frost
do prot warriors care about crit?
winter frost
i mean is there a percentage that i should aim for or just ignore it
timid jay
Crit is really bad for us
slate obsidian
oh yeah and haste is pretty good
winter frost
okay, cause in prot form im only 16% crit lol
winter frost
my haste is in the 30%
long bronze
Avoid crit but typically not at the loss of significant ilvl unless on jewelry then you can sacrifice about 20 ilvl to avoid crit
winter frost
does anyone know if I have to complete the rage tower on my warriors across all realms to unlock the appearance for BFA or can I just do it on 1 warrior and it will be available for all my warriors later on?
timid jay
🤔
@winter frost I'm going to guess its enough on one warrior, dont think blizzard has said anything specific about that
Most likely wait closer to BFA for a answer
junior ivy
you have more than one warrior?
long bronze
I have two but the second is a bank bitch lol
The warrior I play today is the same once I've had since BC. Poor guy has been to like 6 servers at this point
I have Jin Rohk in my bank :grin:
prisma crane
i have 2 prot warriors at 110 lol
one horde one alliance, havent touched the horde one in ages, still only like 925 or something from ToS
has the CM weapon though, so much easier around 918 than it was at 907
long bronze
Heard that
wet hornet
He had original argent dawn tabard
long bronze
Never gonna get that epeen back
long bronze
Oh I have that
timid jay
Is that the tabard with a use effect?
long bronze
Protector is the BC launch one right? I have the competitor one
long bronze
That's cool. Missed out on it. I started in December before BC came out so I wasn't high enough level for those events
timid jay
The worst is me getting the plate set for wotlk launchh
long bronze
Still remember my first wow all night Eric. Good times
timid jay
Sounds like you two had a romantic evening together
winter frost
you think soul of the battlelord and pants are a better combo or Soul and bracers?
long bronze
Depends on fight
Mostly bracers
But pants are great for fights where you can Sr frequently to avoid big hits
Like ymiron and veri
stark sage
soul with the current tier loses a lot of value
winter frost
i thought guides where saying that it still counted as if you used a full rage cost on it?
long bronze
It isn't really viable to weave revenge with soul due to t21 making you use SS much more frequently
We don't have the gcds for it
I'm trying to get some more info on the input lag for mobile from the bug report discord... So far no real dice
fossil spindle
965 horn of valor.. how to fee labout that?
long bronze
Depends on what else you have
fossil spindle
940 memento and 940 chrono for st, 940 terrorbound nexus for AOE
sick sentinel
Good for burst with Avatar talented
winter frost
I use a reliquished haste/strength stat stick and Shatugs eye
sick sentinel
rather niche to use .. mine 960 didnt see much use at all yet
long bronze
Play with it and see how it works for you
fossil spindle
9k str for 30sec, feels good
winter frost
just so you guys know, this has been a really helpful discord for getting me to that next level for warrior tanking
long bronze
No APL for us so it's kinda hard to pin down exactly what's best dps wise
winter frost
I started off thinking crit was good because more crit for parry= more revenge procs
sick sentinel
3k STR flat with 8k haste procc feels better for me -> chronoshard 940 + 960 setnecklace
gonna grind that arcway out i guess :thinking:
unborn island
Do the birds in MoS Burst?
ember arrow
yes
slate obsidian
crit is best, because crit is double the damage
turbid horizon
long bronze
Titan spirits have nothing on the scale of a long dead dragon
sick sentinel
For breaker hits hard, luckily we can use neltharions fury
SB only for that russian roulette feeling 😎
long bronze
It is nice indeed
compact geyser
Umm did someone say crit/ravager/bladestorm helm build.? 
long bronze
If we could move with nelths up I would be so happy
Also nonpro tip don't fat finger nelths fury on skovald when using the shield
dusky mica
tbh I'd be fine not moving with nelth IF it had an awesome looking effect
long bronze
I did that yesterday in a 16 and was basically instawipe lol felt bad
dusky mica
A deathwing version of the frost dk artifact spell would be an adequate starting point
long bronze
Or like a firey phalanx
I think we keep in bfa so maybe they will make it less lameo
tender phoenix
i finally got my t20 4set & t21 2set its so OP
long bronze
Yeah apparently the rage Gen is great but still depends on how much ilvl you need to sacrifice for it
upper spoke
With Aramat's Bloodmirror (spell reflect legs) equipped, what tier / legendary combinations are used?
more interested in tier, i guess. legendary might be different for diff situations
cold tendon
What legendary are you guys using in high lvl mythic + runs?
cold tendon
Thunder and stormscale?
cold tendon
ok cool
sick sentinel
I don't have stormscale yet 😦
So I have to use walls fell and thunder god
Not ideal but works good with t 21 2 p
flat kelp
Yo buddies, any tips on aggramar MM ? wanna make my first pulls on him with my prot war
sick sentinel
MM?
flat kelp
sure
sick sentinel
What u mean MM
flat kelp
mythic aggramar
sick sentinel
Ah
I honestly don't know, a lot of mythic prot warriors used the blood mirror for that fight
long bronze
Rycon it depends. I see mostly gloves and bracers on the prot warrior leader boards
long bronze
I was addressing question about m+
wet hornet
Ok, so this is super super off topic
cold tendon
Thx Dickballs
long bronze
"best" in what sense
sick sentinel
Thunder God on m+ let's u get many many more demoralizing shouts
slate obsidian
aratas can be decent because you have a very lengthy phase of taking hard-hitting meelee attacks (when you're offtanking) that can be blocked
sick sentinel
Esp when you are doing trash pulls
wet hornet
I wish I had that belt before I got my flail skin
long bronze
Gloves and belt are best for dps but not survivability
wet hornet
Gloves and bracers is a good mix
Too bad I never got my gloves when I raided
Because fuck me
sick sentinel
I get to use demoralizing shout every 30-40 seconds
long bronze
And belt has a pretty minor benefit when doing bosses that don't have adds
long bronze
Adds meaning trash?
sick sentinel
Yes
wet hornet
Trash is always the toughest part in M+
sick sentinel
Trash sorry
stark sage
bracers are still the strongest defensive legendary
long bronze
Yes exactly
analog swift
@stark sage is right, but barely.
long bronze
And gloves are strongest offensively
sick sentinel
That's about it tho
analog swift
Bracers imo are way overrated unless it's greivous or your healer is ASS
sick sentinel
Thunder God is super strong on trash pulls and can increase dps and defense
wet hornet
I always use them just to feel safer
analog swift
the amount of damage you take should be super minimal
wet hornet
Doesnt matter if I had a good healer
Also, wanted to beat healers on healing meter
Helped with that
analog swift
yeah but only like 10% of that comes from the bracers
wet hornet
10% is alot of healing
analog swift
no it's not. Not compared to 90% or getting more rage so you get more ignore pain
wet hornet
As I said
analog swift
I'd rather have legs over bracers on ymiron
wet hornet
I never had those things
I got my bracers super early
Then I went months without anything
analog swift
I'd rather have sephuz on helya
cold tendon
best solution!! Create gear set with belt, gloves, and one with gloves bracer and just swap gears sets in mythic +
sick sentinel
Good idea
fleet galleon
Yeah, I swap gear from trash to bosses for sure
analog swift
@cold tendon i have liek 4 sets to swap out during M+
sick sentinel
One for movement
long bronze
Bracers make us much more self sufficient so healer can worry about others. But yes it's up to your preference. We have 4 very strong Legos to choose one and it won't make or break (probably) your run to choose any combo of the 4
long bronze
Bracers make us much more self sufficient so healer can worry about others. But yes it's up to your preference. We have 4 very strong Legos to choose one and it won't make or break (probably) your run to choose any combo of the 4
fleet galleon
I almost always run bracers though so that if healing isn't a huge issue, the healer can also dps
long bronze
Thanks discord mobile
analog swift
everyone really should. I have sephuz/belt that I swap to belt/gloves when it's on CD, one for movement, leggs/gloves for boss, legs/belt for boss w/ adds.
vital cove
How much should i worry about my dps as prot when running m+?
analog swift
@long bronze but as I said, the bracers are alreayd only doing 10% healing (if you aren't awful) that's not helping the healer out THAT much (unless it's greivous)
fleet galleon
I mean, it's important for sure
vital cove
i'm 945 ilvl, doing about 400k
analog swift
get T21
fleet galleon
Less important than dying, but standing there doing nothing also doesn't help
analog swift
but dps is the best thing prot warriors brings
fleet galleon
You're definitely doing something wrong if you're at 400k
sick sentinel
Prot has utility
sick sentinel
I can move around well
vital cove
1 mill on singletarget!?
long bronze
Bracers are usually over 15% for me
sick sentinel
Yeah
vital cove
how geared are you?
analog swift
@vital cove do you have T21?
sick sentinel
If you have gloves you should do that no problem
fleet galleon
Yeah, or close to anyway.
analog swift
@long bronze that's still not THAT much, that's a few impending victories
stark sage
bracers like 15-20 for me
sick sentinel
I'm only 963 close to 964
analog swift
@stark sage that's a much higher echelon but still
long bronze
15‰ of 750m healing is a shit ton
sick sentinel
Prot is a very good dps tank
stark sage
during high damage intake that's like 200k hps
analog swift
The amount of dps a healer can do by not healing that 20% is probably less than you could do with a better leggo
sick sentinel
Prot can top healing boards if they really try
analog swift
yeah ez
vital cove
i'm mind blown right now
sick sentinel
Esp on Vari
fleet galleon
Depends on the healers skill too though. I pugs, I prefer not to risk it
vital cove
how bad have i been playing
vital cove
ye
fleet galleon
It's fine. Important thing is that you're asking questions and trying to improve
vital cove
20ilvl should not = 600k more dps
analog swift
remember, your aoe moves are about doing triple damage
fleet galleon
TBH, I'd start hitting the tank dummy for a while
sick sentinel
What are your stats
analog swift
^^^^^^
sick sentinel
That might be your problem
vital cove
stats are bad, no talk about it
fleet galleon
Talents too
analog swift
wut
vital cove
29% crit
long bronze
Dps is still really low for that ilvl
analog swift
fuck crit
analog swift
crit is ass
sick sentinel
I have 20% crit 35% haste 50% mastery
vital cove
okay! iu'm not THAT far off then
fleet galleon
Yeah, you should be prioritizing item level for the most part anyway
vital cove
What should i exchange crit for?
sick sentinel
Vers can really help out on Meele bosses
fleet galleon
That's fine then. What talents are you running?
analog swift
stats aren't THAT important, but I have verse worth triple crit rn
vital cove
shockwave, inspiring presence, renewed fury, crackling thudner, indomitable, vengence, ravanger
sick sentinel
That's why
analog swift
wtf
fleet galleon
Right
sick sentinel
Lol
sick sentinel
Use anger management
fleet galleon
Big time
analog swift
I don't mean to be a dick
sick sentinel
Devastator
vital cove
ye, icy veins, but might have fooled around with it since
analog swift
I love to help people out, but when you won't even look at the sticky
sick sentinel
Icy viens is outdated
analog swift
are you even doing your part?
long bronze
FYI if you really want to know what Legos and tier people use for high m+ just look here https://raider.io/mythic-plus/season-7.3.2/world/leaderboards-character/warrior/tank#content hint it's gloves and bracers
analog swift
go check the sticky and get back to us plz
fleet galleon
Yeah, Sal pinned a really helpful post some time back
vital cove
I'm new here, didnt think about sticky, i'll do that right away
fleet galleon
That will definitely solve a lot of the problems you're having
Feel free to ask if you have questions about it
analog swift
@long bronze does that show the gear they had when they ran the dungeon or jsut logged out?
fleet galleon
I would imagine they switch gear a lot within the dungeon anyway
fleet galleon
I think it's a lot to do with personal preference overall. If you run with a consistent group that you know is good, you can sacrifice some survivability for dps
long bronze
This is true
analog swift
^^
fleet galleon
But if you pug a lot, as I do, i prefer to be on the safe side
But then again, I'm not pushing +20 and shit either so
sick sentinel
Once I get stormscale gloves I'll be way better dps, getting tired of walls fell
Rly good for fights like hounds of sargeras
sick sentinel
I got Aggramar stride, triple leap shoulders, destiny driver, Thunder God, walls fell and somehow kil'jadens burning wish
I have a few fury leggos
fleet galleon
You're using best and walls fell?
long bronze
No bracers?
fleet galleon
*belt
sick sentinel
My wish for this week is to get to stormscale gloves
long bronze
Belt and Twf isn't a bad combo
fleet galleon
Yeah, given what you have it's not bad
I wonder if KJ's may be better depending on your other trinkets
That strength is really strong
Maybe even destiny driver just for the stats
sick sentinel
Destiny driver is absolute trash
fleet galleon
Effect is
stark sage
stride is good for a stat stick
fleet galleon
Stats are not
sick sentinel
I got unlucky
stark sage
i would only use driver if i could cheese the effect, its pretty bad
sick sentinel
Regardless the two I use is BIS and top tier
I never charge at other tank
My dream is to have stormscale
Would help me do great dps
Plus good defensive option
stark sage
playing well does more for your dps than the legendary
sick sentinel
I am a good player
winter frost
If I use the leggo pants and heavy reprecussion talent I can get pretty close to a 100% uptime on shield block
sick sentinel
Only use the pants if you are long mythic Aggramar or coven
I sue anger management
Use*
doing*
fleet galleon
Talking to @winter frost
sick sentinel
Heavy repercussions and vengeance increases dps tho
I aim at 100k more with those talents
Sim*
stark sage
prot sims 🤔
sick sentinel
Yeah I sim anyway
fleet galleon
Like completely meaningless
stark sage
the APL isnt designed well
sick sentinel
Doesn't rly sim properly
stark sage
the data they give is 100% unreliable
sick sentinel
I do way more dps in game than on sim
fleet galleon
Why trust something you know doesn't work well?
sick sentinel
I did do a bit more dps with heavy repercussions and vengeance actually
calm cove
stark sage
sick sentinel
Raidbots is rly cool tho, I like to sim on there to see how My different gear and talents affects dps
winter frost
i've been playing with different combos and the one that's most fun for me is the class ring and pants
stark sage
BV and AM are way better for damage
calm cove
you know Raidbots is the same as Simcraft right just with a GUI?
stark sage
@sick sentinel you cant trust prot sims if the APL isnt maintained
sick sentinel
Yeah ur right
sick sentinel
I did 250k dps less on dogs than with BV and AM
Idk why it's so popular
Raidbots
vital cove
hey again, just wanted to let you know i'm doing 600k dps with the spec from the guide
soo, >200k increase
stark sage
raidbots works for most dps specs, thats why its popular
sick sentinel
Gratz
What leggos are you usuing?
Also remember to use demoralizing shout before you hit battle cry
vital cove
Right now i'm trying out with insignia and the walls fell
because that gives me possability for 4piece t21
sick sentinel
And during that you must spam shield slam and have the 10% damage increase from ignore pain
4 p doesn't increase dps
long bronze
Yup most dps specs have very fine tuned APLs. Prot doesn't because we like flying by the seat of our collective pants
sick sentinel
Ha
stark sage
also RFDT is hard to calculate
sick sentinel
True
long bronze
Sorry I'm sticking to the too cool for school mantra
sick sentinel
It's fine
vital cove
would you go for 4piece and those leggos, or using Ararat's?
stark sage
u only have 3?
vital cove
ye, 3 for prot
long bronze
Warrior strong. Simming dumb. Gib me more STATS
sick sentinel
He said insigna and walls
stark sage
on a fight where you can actually make use of ararats, yeah i would equip it but for general use double ring is okay
vital cove
even thou pants are 915?
stark sage
well
vital cove
other pieces are 930
stark sage
maybe
sick sentinel
ararats is crazy good on varimathras
its better than the dps legos on that fight too in terms of doing dps
vital cove
Alright, so it depends on the situation more or less
vital cove
ye
stark sage
what does lfr drop
vital cove
915
stark sage
oh dam
vital cove
930 on normal
stark sage
thought it was higher
ye
tbh i would go mirror + twf until you get some better gear
long bronze
4pc t21 is arguably weak compared to taking higher ilvl. Defensively it can be stronger but depends on how often often it refreshes. Most bosses attack too slow to make full use of it. On trash it's stronger
Also to use 4 set you need to use one of the crappy itemized pedal pieces or not use Lego gloves
Pedal? Nice phone that's new
vital cove
Not sure, my entire setup is changed now. Guess i'll have to see how my survivability is
stark sage
prot war takes practice, dont get discouraged if you feel squishy
vital cove
I've been just freestyling until now. It's been enough for argus normal and mythic+ ~10
But we tried m+13 yesterday, and that kicked out butts
So, that's why i wanna look more into it now
stark sage
well this is a good place for information
long bronze
You han please read over the blockable and reflectance damage sheet in pins. It's the difference between being very good and getting 1 shot
vital cove
Will do!
long bronze
You'd be surprised how much damage you get to avoid
prisma crane
you guys are a bit incorrect on 4p T21
it's actually quite solid for surv
yes, even against ST bosses
and for strictly surv purposes, it will outperform 2p and ilvl
prisma crane
for surv i would take insignia and 4p
unless it's a fight you benefit from the extra SR
sick sentinel
Insigna can be a good dps option
If you have right traits
Other than that it is weak
long bronze
Nobody said it wasn't good for survivability. I think there's debate on how much ilvl it's worth giving up for it.
sick sentinel
It's about as bad as the destiny driver
The effect on a different leggo is much more worth
prisma crane
insignia?
sick sentinel
Insignia is rly bad
prisma crane
you realize that the extra SB charge doesnt actually give you that much more SB uptime in practice right?
particularly if you're in 5 man content
prisma crane
i would take insignia over arats if arats means he loses 4p T21
which contradicts what you just said
sick sentinel
T21 4 p is pretty weak
prisma crane
and insignia, with the right traits is arguably 2nd BiS for dps
long bronze
Insignia is only as good or bad as your traits but usually yeah its no good. And no matter your traits it will be weaker than the 4 "good" legos
stark sage
nah 4pc is good, just 4pc 20 + 2pc is nuts
prisma crane
4pT21 is far from weak
sick sentinel
4 p would be rly strong if they removed can only occur every second
stark sage
it would be OP
sick sentinel
Yeah
Would be perfect
i used it yesterday on kingaroth mythic and felt as safe as i did when i was using 4p2p
prisma crane
it's free IP every blocked hit that can stack and that can go above IP cap
prisma crane
i just cant take someone too serious if they are coming from simming prot warrior to begin with
prisma crane
defensively, insignia probably only comes in handy if you're looking to cap avoidance and have MoS in your t2 slots
8 overall itemlevels? to use 4p?
sick sentinel
Yes
prisma crane
128 ilvl difference over 2 pieces?
sick sentinel
Had to replace 960 cloak with 945 cloak
Had to replace 955 gloves with 935 gloves
Lost like 8 item levels in total
prisma crane
why does dropping to 2 piece mean you have to change like 6 items of gear?
long bronze
I lose 55 ilvl on shoulder and 40 ilvl and socket on pants or 45 ilvl on helm to go to 4 set
prisma crane
sounds like you're changing more that you have to
sick sentinel
That is insane
prisma crane
but even in his scenario, that's worst case 6.25 overall ilvls
sick sentinel
Item level stats outperform the 4p of you are losing that much
prisma crane
for him, likely, yes
sick sentinel
I use heroic shoulder and legs
prisma crane
for you, if you change 2 pieces, you're better off with 4p
sick sentinel
Then if I want 4p I have to wear heroic cloak and normal war forge ( 935 ) gloves
I only use 4 p when playing fury
prisma crane
yes, at the cost of 35 ilvls
you told us
which is 2.18 overall ilvl
you should be wearing your 4p
prisma crane
were you wearing 1 lego?
prisma crane
feel free to go for more ilvl if you're looking for more dmg or w/e, but strictly surv-wise, if the change is those two pieces of gear to tier, then you should take 4p
long bronze
As soon as coven/agg/imo stop trolling me certainly will lol
I don't raid with a guild and pugging heroic agg and coven is the worst
prisma crane
you dont want the tier legs anyways
get the argus ones
assuming rng works out that way
vital cove
Cosmos-Culling?
long bronze
Yeah let me just ask him 🙃
vital cove
I've got those 😮
prisma crane
yea just use those
vale spruce
what two legendarys are the best for protection atm?
long bronze
Why do people ask this question
wet hornet
DESTINY DIVER AND ZEPHUS
fleet galleon
Legendaries are situation dependent
wet hornet
Also, fuck this Argus campaign
Do these quests, wait 5000 days for a mission to complete
Then do 1 more quest
Fuck off
prisma crane
bracers/gloves/belt/twf/ahr (pick your poison)
vale spruce
Thank you guys
vale spruce
well the guide says the thundergod and mannoroth was just getting more input
no need to get rude if people don't want to answer it, it's fine
fleet galleon
Those are solid for almost all situations
But there are specific scenarios where they're not
So it's hard to give you a broad answer without knowing more
wet hornet
Can we have a pin that is just: Legendaries have uses in different scenarios.
Everything is viable
Except DD
Fuck DD
fleet galleon
Lol
rich swallow
tilted? lol
wet hornet
So annoyed I got DD
junior ivy
what is DD
long bronze
Destiny driver Lego chest
junior ivy
ohh
i have never used thgat one before
see off topic for a pic of a bunny if you want
fleet galleon
Please don't use it
junior ivy
lol i wont i love my bracers+gloves combo
junior ivy
gloves were my first leggo
and then DD and then TWF and then bracers
and i forget the order of the rest
i hated gloves at first, i didnt know they were 'good' . they were damage not survability so i thought they were hbad
runic fjord
then you went "wait rage gen, ooooo"
junior ivy
then i discovered this discord lol
sick sentinel
39% with 42% mast or 31% haste with 52% mast
stark sage
same ilvl?
sick sentinel
nah
stark sage
go with better ilvl
ember arrow
whatever is highest ilvl
sick sentinel
20 ilvl to a ring
ember arrow
then the higher ring
sick sentinel
also how worth it is it to use the t21 4p if youre not using 6p
stark sage
hmm defensively 6pc is hard to beat
sick sentinel
ive got like 4/3 t20 at 930
i made the change last night to 4p t21 when i had all 960 tier pieces
3/4*
But then if I drop t21 4p i can use a 980 haste mastery back and 970 haste mastery legs
stark sage
960 tier in those slots?
sick sentinel
960+ in my 2 pieces of tier yeah
rustic python
When does ilvl begin to trump Tier 20 4set?
stark sage
id keep the tier unless you are trying to parse for damage
rustic python
if I am progressing Mythic for example.. when should I just swap to higher ilvl
960 or 970 ?
ember arrow
@rustic python when u get mythic ilvl t21
sick sentinel
I always take highest item level
rustic python
lol
sick sentinel
If it's over 30 item level difference take it
ember arrow
no
rustic python
how high can t21 titanforge?
ember arrow
when u get mythic t21 pieces
rustic python
for t21?
sick sentinel
for anything
ember arrow
tos is t20
rustic python
Oh SORRY
ember arrow
and it can TF to 985
ember arrow
any item can
sick sentinel
t20 can TF to 985 yes
rustic python
wow
rustic python
me neither
stark sage
even the shitty WQ item rewards can TF to 985
rustic python
fuck I really dont wanna farm ToS Mythic 😦
sick sentinel
its 5% every WF/TF
so that 5% compundingly lower
So a item from BC can't item forge to 985 lol
Can*
no, only stuff from legion ya scrub
Ah
stark sage
you dont have to farm ToS, having mythic t21 is good enough to clear
rustic python
Ok
sick sentinel
I am gonna miss tier
rustic python
I'm not
ember arrow
fuck tiers
sick sentinel
It's so nice to have
ember arrow
forced to wear low ilvl because bonus
rustic python
Fuck Tier, Fuck Artifacts and Fuck legendaries.. glad they are all gone (sorta)
sick sentinel
I miss tier
sick sentinel
Jesus
rustic python
yea they dont feel special though
sick sentinel
That's a lot
stark sage
the leggo drop system was dumb, but the items themselves are fine
ember arrow
i geared 2 alts with 5 leggos each
rustic python
I used to collect legendaries every expansion.. now its lame
ember arrow
from my warrior
rustic python
I have too many
ember arrow
i got 6 WL, 6 dk, 5 shaman, 5 huntard
sick sentinel
Hopefully that 11th will be stormscale gloves
rustic python
If you got full Mythic T21.. what legendaries would you use without T20 set bonus? Back to Gloves and Bracer?
rustic python
I have Belt / Rings / Gloves / Bracer
sick sentinel
I rly want gloves
sick sentinel
What
rustic python
if your going 4 / 2 ..
o_o
Juggernaut Helm
Titanic Onslaught Pauldrons
Titanic Onslaught Cloak
Juggernaut Breastplate
Titanic Onslaught Handguards
Titanic Onslaught Greaves
stark sage
for general defensive purposes
sick sentinel
Did they remove the gloves?
stark sage
who
sick sentinel
The stormscale gloves
stark sage
no
rustic python
with 4pc do I still use AM / Indomitable
sick sentinel
Getting destiny driver as first Leggo sucked
sick sentinel
Am and deva
rustic python
deva with no revenge ?
sick sentinel
Nope
stark sage
devastator is OP
sick sentinel
Am BV deva
ember arrow
never ever indom
cinder sorrel
I tanked our raid last night for the first time and keep having trouble with pulling threat from our bm monk to the point I had to afk while he had the boss. Is this normal with a monk?
sick sentinel
It's gonna get nerfed in BFA 😦
rustic python
wont you be squishy? or the extra rage lets you spam IP more?
ember arrow
@cinder sorrel yep
ember arrow
@rustic python indom makes u squishier than deva
rustic python
I thought we need revenge with deva for the reduced rage cost
sick sentinel
Deva during blood lust is insane
ember arrow
not with t21 exif
sick sentinel
I get rage capped in seconds
ember arrow
in 1 second**
sick sentinel
Gibbing?
rustic python
I thought indom would give me more smoothing for magic heavy fights like dogs
like getting killed
ember arrow
dogs are one of easiest
sick sentinel
Dogs are pure survival
rustic python
yea I do.. but I need to save cd for the swap
sick sentinel
Walls fell is bae on dogs
rustic python
yea and SR after 4 or 5 stacks
cinder sorrel
Wow it made it so boring for me. Well only got to do it a few times intill the main tank is back
rustic python
my haste is like 28% so I have pretty good uptime on SB
junior ivy
my haste is 20% 😦
rustic python
it might be too high
ember arrow
@cinder sorrel well not specifically wit monks, but if other tank has his rotation not sorted and not maximizing dps
u must refrain aswell
rustic python
thats another thing
ember arrow
tell them to get good
ember arrow
otherwise pull aggro, die , till thye learn how to paly their class
and not loose aggro
rustic python
too much damooge
ember arrow
i wont gib myself because some scrub cant properly do rotation
sick sentinel
You need higher haste
rustic python
28%?
sick sentinel
Atleast 35
ember arrow
no
rustic python
whaaa
wet hornet
No haste is too much
ember arrow
ilvl>>haste
sick sentinel
Haste is very very inportant
ember arrow
less than ilvl
wet hornet
Unless ilvl upgrade has.crit
rustic python
with 28% I have almost 100% uptime on shield block and I can hit 5 SS during battle cry
sick sentinel
I use the Vari neck which is 945 when I have 955 argus neck which is waaaay worse
sick sentinel
Not all about item level sometimes
ember arrow
it is all about ilvl
wet hornet
Secondary stats are worth more than ilvl
round hornet
maybe hes using HR still
rustic python
well I can rotate Shield Blocks and then use Artifact
ember arrow
@wet hornet ilvl is worth more than secondary stats
rustic python
not sure why I need more than 28%
ember arrow
what ya on about
rustic python
they nerfed secondary stats
sick sentinel
I think spell reflect helps to reduce damage
From maw
also get the kin garoth or diima trinket
rustic python
I have it
sick sentinel
Helps with the dog bite
ember arrow
no it doesnt
sick sentinel
Yes
stark sage
more haste is more rage gen which is more IP
sick sentinel
Yeah
sick sentinel
That's what artifact is for
rustic python
mine rolled a socket too
rustic python
mine is too
feelsbad
but the fact the CD is reduced by taking white hits
is really cool
sick sentinel
I love having it for Meele fights
rustic python
Well I mean I've killed dogs twice on mythic now.. we are on council
just wondering what else I can do
sick sentinel
Council is easy fight for tanks
rustic python
its kinda boring
sick sentinel
Yeah
rustic python
dogs was really fun though
sick sentinel
They hit hard
spring sedge
is there an existing crucible weight string?
west kayak
@spring sedge No string, just what is in the pins.
ember arrow
@spring sedge no
spring sedge
ok ty very much 😃
long bronze
Necrotic too hard? Lol
broken kite
ember arrow
idk i see dbm telling it
wet hornet
Social guilds are the worst to raid with
ember arrow
thankfully im not in raid
sick sentinel
why not join a raiding guild
Yeeeaah @DrDickBalls#6012 that's where u gain the street cred :sunglasses:
but this discord slowly tickles me to jump back into myth prog
compact geyser
Start your own guild with people you routinely pug with. Did that in Wrath and it was called <Pug and Pray>
sick sentinel
HC clear dead end is kinda odd place to be for a dedicaded PVE'ler
Myth prog or next reroll - coins flipping
long bronze
Yeah that's the problem with having a fiance and friends who I play with but aren't that serious
Hard to do both
wet hornet
Fukken divorce and get friends who are better at the game
long bronze
I would like to do mythic but I'm also happy not. Would just be nice to consistently clear heroic each week lol
Lol true min max right here bois
long bronze
Got some people wanting to take m+ more serious so got that going for me
Hoping for a 20 this week at least
Already the highest rated on my server for my ilvl. Got a long way to go to be even close to highest tho
wet hornet
Problem about being tank in m+ is that 97% of the responsibility is on you
long bronze
Feels that way sometimes lol
And by highest I mean for war tank
So like not that much competition lol
wet hornet
Only war tank lol
So yeah. Late in nighthold on our server, warrior top in mythic was 3 bosses lol
Think it got higher after i went monk
round hornet
what makes you say 97% of responsibility is on you?
keeping up interupts, stuns and whatnot is a team effort.
wet hornet
I just feel bad when we wipe
sick sentinel
same lmao
long bronze
I feel like tank is the first to get called out in m+ if things go south
But that's nothing new
wet hornet
I usually blamed everyone else. But they were friends
I would never do mythic plus with randos
long bronze
thanks obama
long bronze
the issue with raids is its so obvious when we mess up
because we usually just get 1 shot lol
wet hornet
Ye lol
wet hornet
Can still blame healers tho
long bronze
meanwhile bear playing with 15% parses is like hur dur 16 m hp
wet hornet
"Why didnt you use cooldowns?"
I fucking hate druids so much
They can be everything
And they are good at everything
long bronze
why because you have to stand there dick in hand so you don't steal aggro after 2 shield slams?
lol
wet hornet
Even if you play badly
long bronze
I hate doing LFR as tank because I always get some chucklefuck cotank who does 300k dps
granted I can solo tank like all of it cept like HC but still
ugh
languid rose
i did top dps at lfr aggramar so i left before argus
long bronze
good call
wet hornet
Ugh. I need to set up elvui again. Vanilla is so cluttered
long bronze
I've just used the same one I made in wrath lol
I was actually able to quit in wrath
come back in panda
and just update the addons
and quit in panda and come back in wod
do the same
wet hornet
Gladiator stance wen
wet hornet
I raided as holy paladin in cata. It was fun
Actually liked their mastery bonus
Overheals turned into a shield. Just spent a minute before each fight when we were waiting healing my tank
ember arrow
sounds like a really braindead mastery
rewards for overhealing
i took 1mil dmg from 8 shadow strikes
total
long bronze
well if we didn't we'd be pancake lol
damage taken metrics are always funny to look at
like this my mast norm veri
I even messed up a SS
only 25m damage taken
feels funny man
my last norm veri*
sick sentinel
on AHC if played properly prot wars will have the lowest dmg taken
cinder pasture
Just did my first 21 dungeon, Vault. 1 minute 30 seconds over timer. Group had a couple of deaths cause we didn't really expect some of the damage output of trash/bosses , but overall wasn't too bad 😄
cinder pasture
Yea, she has an ability, can't remember what it's called but it hit me for 9 million lol
Did not expect that one
ember arrow
double strike
cinder pasture
That's the one
cinder pasture
Yea it just ran out, both me and healer started laughing when I went from 100% to 0%
cinder pasture
I only have 7 bastions, then a mix of dragon skin/last stand one and i think i still have 1 shatter the bones 😦
cinder pasture
Yea I kind of noticed he started hitting harder once shield block ran out and I wasnt getting guaranteed blocks
Night started nice though, 3chested an 18 upper then went and almost did that vault in time
cinder pasture
That's what I love about prot warrior, critical block. So much fun 😄
Oh yea, have you noticed bursting being a bit buggy ?
cinder pasture
We had the last tick of bursting hit us twice within 0.5 seconds in the vault
ember arrow
it reduces dmg
cinder pasture
Of course 😄