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#protection
broken kite
junior ivy
ty
round vortex
have you got a UI screenshot lol?
round vortex
what about in combat?
junior ivy
umm id have to go target a dummy
warm plinth
But like, why do you need 184 addons for that
round vortex
my immediate feedback is you should probably give your bars and maybe even icons some more real estate on your screen. Your eyes are likely straining to see them.
This is personal preference this next tip - but put your health/target bars lower so they aren't covering the space next to your toon.
warm plinth
She's a clicker; she needs them close together.
round vortex
oooo clicker
ember arrow
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
round vortex
I'll tell you something weird about my keybinds - Will of the Forsaken will ALWAYS be number 7 on my keyboard.
warm plinth
How do you even reach 7 with one hand
round vortex
In my infant wow player days when you just bound stuff everywhere thats where it was.
junior ivy
i have like, literally 6 other action bars (including bags and micro menu) that are currently hidden until moused over
but i dont like that soituation
round vortex
Nah dude i don''t
junior ivy
but, if i dont have them hidden,m they take up half my screen
how do you guys deal with that
round vortex
I recon I could hit number 7 blind folded after being spun around 3 times hahaha
warm plinth
Uh...I don't have 6 other action bars, for starters
round vortex
I tried moving it and i can't lol
left meteor
I can't even hit 6 as consistently as I'd like ¯_(ツ)_/¯
warm plinth
This is literally my entire UI, in combat and out
left meteor
Pressing Berserker Rage can be stressful sometimes
junior ivy
where do you put your mounts, your consumables, your hearthstones, your toys?
round vortex
@junior ivy I'm the rare breed that still tanks with my health frame in it's default position. i jsut made it bigger and use screen flash for my health warning.
warm plinth
I have everything there, on 4 bars
warm plinth
What do you mean how lol
warm plinth
How many toys and mounts do you need to have?
round vortex
I have 2 bars shown and 4 bars of bindings hidden
junior ivy
warm plinth
It'll prioritize flying mounts over non-flying in flying areas
round vortex
but i made a rule - only 8 buttons devoted to toys and shit - i have to have my favourite ones there. lol
warm plinth
That's not even that much space
junior ivy
ok the issue with mounts is i cant just have favourite mounts. i need my yak. i need a 2 person mount. i need a water mount
and all my professions
i need a bar for my professions
and my toys
and my engineering items
and all my fast travel items
warm plinth
I have my mammoth, my rocket, and my regular mount on my bars
round vortex
I click my hearth outta my bags, and my flasks (why have a button for something u push every 2 hours)
warm plinth
I think you're probably overdoing it. Do you actually use all of that stuff regularly?
round vortex
and professions are bound on out of the way binds like 8 9 0 -
round vortex
yeah i bind pots and healthstones
left meteor
but I bind rune to basically every key just in case ¯_(ツ)_/¯
junior ivy
okahy another question
warm plinth
Yeah I have my pots and healthstone keybound
junior ivy
!
you know how some people have like all encompassing weakauras for their abilities, cds, rage etc?
do they ALSO have their action bars displayed with those?
or is it like one or the other?
it always confused me
warm plinth
A lot of people do, yes
WAs are 100% personal preference. I use very few WAs. Most toons have none at all except a prolonged power one to remind me to use them on CD
round vortex
its like 80% exclusive one or the other - 20% both
sinful vortex
round vortex
I don't use weak auras for mine - I use an addon called needtoknow in combo with in game built in auras
junior ivy
okay another stupid question
warm plinth
My mistweaver has the most because I have one for Velen's, one for Fel-Shield Emitter, one for Thunder Focus Tea, and one for Renewing Mist
round vortex
I have a bar that pops up is SR is on cooldown
junior ivy
for people who use those big fancy weakauras.. they dont have the keybinds on them.. so how do they know which keys do what?!
round vortex
muscle memory mate
warm plinth
You don't have to think about where your abilities are do you?
left meteor
I catch myself glancing at my bars way too much when I play Prot because I use a WA from Wago and it doesn't really compute for me. I should really swap it out sometime
junior ivy
i guess i dont
warm plinth
It's the same with keybindings. Once you learn them, you know which is which
junior ivy
im feeling overwhelmed
round vortex
you won't be able to do it all at once cat
warm plinth
Bind one thing, then another, then another. Don't try to swap over to keybinds all at once or you'll get frustrated and stressed out and give up
junior ivy
hm okay
round vortex
i'd be happy to do a live help session in discord with you at some stage?
junior ivy
for now gonna try and lessen the items on my asction bars
thatd be cool baratus
id be up for it
round vortex
as a raid lead I am often doing it for heaps of people
left meteor
For Prot try binding Shield Slam first for example since you use that a lot of the time
round vortex
make sure as well everyone - that we factor in cat's play style and what is needed to be achieved from it
i'm trying to find a UI pic but i'm at work lol
I could only find a video i took on a heroic argus pug. And my UI has been a little refine since then but almost essentially the same. I'll PM you a link @junior ivy and you can tell me if there is anything on there you think is useful.
junior ivy
i made my extra action bars a bit smaller and removed half the stuff i had on them
mostly stupid cosmetic toys
lol
round vortex
This is a screenshot of a you tube clip that captures most of my in combat UI. Has been refined a bit since but its about 95% spot on i think (also im undead now lol)
junior ivy
yeha i msged you about those bars i wanttt lol
k dumb questiomn
how do i un-focus someone?
withouyt focusing someone else
nm
nm
thoughts?
round vortex
/clearfocus lol
junior ivy
broken kite
Here's mine - a little out of date. (Kudos to sense for the inspiring w/a)https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246962145588281345/411066408349466624/unknown.png
winter frost
we'll got Kruul down to 5.8 million then Velen died
round vortex
jsut let it run
round vortex
no point weaving that one at all lol
long bronze
this is my UI since we are sharing
and then in 2013 lol
I DONT LIKE CHANGE OKAY
long bronze
21:9 is glorious
round vortex
yeah totally 21:9 never going back
sick sentinel
what works for you works for you
https://puu.sh/zja2Y/0fc0b57c26.jpg heres mine on high command
idk why its not embedding
junior ivy
yours looks complicated thats a lot of infdo
info
but you probably raid mythic and need that info
warm plinth
Needs more floating text @sick sentinel
undone sun
Needs a spam filter on that floating text
sick sentinel
ye
i keep forgetting to clean it up
lmao
the scrolling text shit cause that is p much useless
warm plinth
I don't even know what mine shows tbh. It's just the default Blizzard shit
I just keep it because I need to see something when I'm hitting things
I don't actually pay it any mind
broken kite
I have an aura to show blocked attacks, but use default combat text otherwise
undone sun
😄
desert cargo
I've been looking around and may have missed it but is there a weak aura that shows current physical and magical damage reduction %? There is one for bear I'm used to though it may not be as applicable to warrior.
broken kite
You also need the artifact data lib add-on for the mitigation aura to work correctly
warm plinth
How many addons now?
warm plinth
I can't fathom the need for 174 addons
But I mean, as long as your game still runs, who cares
sick sentinel
I have DBM, Weakauras and Details thats it
broken kite
You can cut a lot of the details sub add-ons. Same with dbm
junior ivy
is thgere a way to level alts without questing?
true tinsel
955 eye of f"harg vs 930 codex?
undone sun
Completely different purposes, codex is good for aoe for a hybrid trinket and eye (shatug) is good for EHP gains
true tinsel
ok ty
winter frost
they nerfed dungeon exp
it's really only worth doing the dungeons once now for the quests inside
tiny sphinx
ironic considering instanced dungeons was one of the game's primary selling points at its launch
winter frost
keep in mind most of the original developers of WoW have moved on now
but yes, dungeons and such are no longer the "best" way to level now
junior ivy
playing alts is weird liek my priest is on a mount she didnt earn
cause my warrior earned it
winter frost
besides if you have flying for everywhere it makes leveling pretty trivial
anyone managed to get Mannaroths Tusks from SOO?
recently?
jade thorn
so frustrated with myself. keep on mixing up annihilation and twisted reflections
undone sun
undone sun
Nice
winter frost
he killed me right when i finished him off
jade thorn
thanks tyme, but I have that. it can't help me with what I press on the keyboard
winter frost
well if you're consistently getting to phase 2 then you're doing better than i was
took me a LONG time to get phase 1 down
jade thorn
it me a while too
winter frost
what I kind of did was I didn't go super hard until i stole his twisted reflection
he will cast it again btw
he tried to get me twice with it but i caught it both times
jade thorn
I just keep seeing annihilate "Spell reflect! Wait. Oh SHit!" can't uncross that wire
winter frost
if you see annihilate SB at the minimum
remember it gets stronger each time he casts it so don't draw out the fight too long
if you have stole his twisted reflection then don't be afraid to dps him, he hits like a bitch outside of his annihilate and puddles
the only time he can really hurt you is if you're in a puddle or he hits you with that annihilate
broken kite
Gz @winter frost :)
winter frost
only took me like 170 tries
warm plinth
Oof, it was seriously 170 tries?
@jade thorn You can interrupt Twisted Reflections as well, and he doesn't do enough damage to where it's a wipe if you interrupt instead of reflect. As Placid said, he hits like a bitch outside of the puddles and Annihilates.
lost crow
decided to dust off my prot warrior today
never got a leg cause I stopped playing it in EN
got the leap shoudlers and Destiny Driver back to back
undone sun
Is juggernaut completing a set
brave halo
Not needed for it
undone sun
Juggernaut has better stats, 5 ilevel difference isn't big enough to matter
brave halo
One more for you
Is this stat difference worth breaking 4P (and going down to 2P) in Antorus?
undone sun
Maybe offensively, unlikely defensively though
winter frost
I don't really think the 4pc Jugg is very spectacular personally, unless I'm missunderstanding what the 4 piece jugg does
left meteor
It's pretty good.
warm plinth
It's a solid set bonus defensively. It buffs your next IP if you don't currently have one active, and the buff stacks with itself until you use IP again.
left meteor
Assuming you get hit every 1.5 seconds (most bosses' swing counter iirc) it's a good chunk of HPS
brave halo
So would you make that trade? Yes/no? I just want to be clear.
warm plinth
The ICD on it is 1 second. Bosses mostly hit at 2 seconds, which is why it's stronger in M+ than it is in a raid situation.
left meteor
obviously you won't get constantly hit in raid encounters, but even tanking melee hits half the time it yields decent Value
brave halo
My tank mentor says no 😄
warm plinth
It's 5 ilevels on a cloak. If you're not breaking a bonus, do whatever you want. It's negligible
warm plinth
I doubt it. How much str is the proc?
tiny sphinx
the crit trinket? crit is garbage for prot
undone sun
Pretty sure it's base haste with a str proc
warm plinth
I mean, depending on his options, I wouldn't discount it
warm plinth
It's 2ppm and any secondary stat trinket is usually intended for its effect anyway, in my experience
Other than arcano of course
undone sun
Hard to say without working sims™
warm plinth
lol, indeed
thorn granite
@calm sequoia Just got the Mage Tower done. Thanks for all your tips. I can now retire this warrior.
grave grove
warm plinth
Another star has fallen from the sky 😢
undone sun
😭
candid vine
IT's haste base, with a strength proc
jade socket
theres a guide in the pins
gloomy light
Will be tanking 9/11 on Wednesday and need trinket choice help
@jade socket i just need trinket help
jade socket
theres a pin for trinkets
jade socket
you can look at logs for earlier kills
gloomy light
Is this discord for help for telling people to look at logs
Or for answering questions
Most of logs use dps trinkets nowadays
undone sun
? all the useful information is in the pins, if you have questions that's not covered in said pins/guides then ask
but asking for a general, vague thing isn't going to help
fringe marten
The only dangerous stuff on sisters is the spell damage, generally procs from Diima can hit hard. Other than that you can utilize a standard defensive loadout...specifically for trinkets it might be apocalypse drive and pantheon trinket.
you can literally remove your trinkets and tank the encounter just fine; 99% of the time tanking is about utilizing your kit properly and understanding encounter mechanics.
gloomy light
I have a choice between dmd:i aggramar conviction and 915 socket arcano
fringe marten
in that particular fight probably the arcano crystal. Again..the dangerous stuff is spell damage there...your darkmoon card isn't going to be a huge deal. and aggramars channeled shield is a toy to be used for very very specific circumstances.
undone sun
He said conviction, not titanguard being the channel
fringe marten
oh sorry not titanguard..yeah you're right
always use the aggramar conviction
it may not be the greatest defensive choice often but the utility from the proc is amazing and often times only 1 tank at a time can contribute the tank proc portion of getting the pantheon ability up
so use your pantheon trinket and arcano if that's what you have.
I've largely benched my dmc for a 965 dog eye...but even then it doesn't see use much either.
Often I end up using apocalypse drive and pantheon trinket..when I'm even concerned about defensive trinkets.
gloomy light
@fringe marten that's exactly what I needed, thanks a lot
fringe marten
I would think for single target tanking the grotesque statue is still quite powerful...though I haven't busted mine out in a long time.
undone sun
Or whod
fringe marten
yeah I have a fairly weak one of those
keep hitting DHT to try and get one..it won't drop at 940+
undone sun
925 socketed feelsgoodman
fringe marten
I could get one if I was just willing to mindlessly pug dht after dht 15+ constantly..which I'm not
the damage reduction portion of that trinket doesn't scale up much...just like the grotesque statue never did.
warm plinth
DHT is apparently a PUG killer; my groups never do well in there
fringe marten
I don't see how it's one of the easiest zones to push through
warm plinth
Ikr
fringe marten
I joined an 11 a little while ago with people with literally no ratings...I was killing every orb and basically soloing the blace
place~
was top damage, heals..etc....but that's an 11 so? whatever
warm plinth
I think my highest in-time on any toon is a 12
fringe marten
really??
fringe marten
The thing I'd like to see confirmed...is that there is DEFINITELY a trend each week of keys...anyone notice that?
Ever notice every week the same like 2 zones crop up on EVERY DAMN KEY
warm plinth
Yeah, it seems like it
fringe marten
it's not coincidence.
warm plinth
Especially since I was playing 9 different toons at one point
undone sun
i don't pug ¯_(ツ)_/¯
warm plinth
I'd get like 2-3 outliers and the other 6 would be the same two dungeons
fringe marten
Even if you don't thyme..do you notice keys funnel into the same couple zones each week?
there's NO WAY that's just statistical randomness.
undone sun
Mostly due to comfortability and ease of access
undone sun
Recently we've been doing a lot of lowers for the guild's Rshaman for Drape
warm plinth
He means like the key you get from your chest
fringe marten
yeah I've done some lower 20's and high teens and such trying to get drapes for 1 shaman....
like right now
undone sun
Granted three chests a week isn't a big average
fringe marten
go look at the public queue for keys...LOOK how many lower kara's there are
you think that's random?
half my guild started the week with lower kara 19
warm plinth
lol
undone sun
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fringe marten
There's some whacky going on with the way their keys settle on the zones
but anyway...that aside; DHT really shouldn't be rough at all for any group. It's laid out smooth and linear...there's a few minor tricks and LOS stuff you can do like any zone but otherwise it's straight forward.
I think on tyrannical weeks the final boss can take some people who don't know how to protect themselves with their utility cd's by surprise.
or use a prydaz...or just have us intervene on them with safeguard..
or just have a healer who can ramp up strong hps quickly...lot of ways to solve shade of xavius' festering rip.
...I've secretly prayed the entire expansion at some point the Destiny Driver would become an awesome tool for a raid boss... so warriors would have a cool trick to bring to the table.
warm plinth
Yeah, idk. I healed a 16 this week on my mistweaver; that was a struggle (had never healed a tyr key that high before). That one was my fault (multiple wipes on 1st boss while I figured out how to prep for the leaps). But in general, they just never seem to go well
I actually have a 16 in time on my BDK but that was like a dream PUG, and we still only 1-chested it.
fringe marten
..instead we got ....like 3 days of being able to totally negate the mechanic of the first boss of Tomb of sargeras....and then they made most of the important damage in Antorus blockable so we're just..all around fairly solid there.
Thyme playing gta v? WTF still plays that?
fringe marten
...reminds me I should go kill more monsters in MHW
I'm pheenin for another dark souls so hard I'm going to buy the Dark Souls 1 rebuild on PC when it launches soon.
warm plinth
Is it weird that I have a +15 3 chest for Upper Kara on my DK and I don't have any recollection of doing it? It was only last week too.
undone sun
Lol
fringe marten
not at all
UK is very forgiving on the timer
I have a 19 2 chest...nearly 3 chested it
warm plinth
Fort week too I suppose
fringe marten
as my best 'time' run.
warm plinth
But still, even completing a 15 in time is rare for me, and I'm pretty sure that's the only non 1-chest 15 that I've done
fringe marten
I like M+...it was a great addition to the game. I like small group content...and it's a lot better than challenge modes for Xmog crap.
It's also blown the lid off ilevel meaning anything as a gauge of progression for players.
warm plinth
Yeah, though we'll never put the lid back on that
There will always be a number that people judge others by since GS came into being back in Wrath
fringe marten
battle for azeroth will to a good degree curtail the 'titanforge' issue of this expansion.
There's really nothing wrong with that though; you should be able to have a fairly quick way to look at a potential group member or guild trial and have a rough guess as to how far they've gotten or how solid a player they might be..pertaining to content they've beaten...
And what that 'thing' is most of the time is logs...is what any competitive guild would look at.
warm plinth
Yeah, I agree. And that makes me happy about things like M+ score or parse % because it says more than ilevel or gearscore did/do
fringe marten
But as is, in the current state of the game...ilevel and 'achievements' mean absolutely nothing.
warm plinth
Some people don't know that. Looking at you 918 priest queueing for a +15 tyrannical and linking me his main's KSM in whisper 😂
fringe marten
Some of the absolutely best geared people I've ever seen are covered in 970+ heroic titanforges, normal mode titanforges....or that stupid? vendor you turn in shards to..to get trinkets/etc.
I saw the luckiest human being the other day in a random? LFR or something
You know that quest necklace from Tomb of sargeras..the 3 statted one?
warm plinth
Yeah
fringe marten
it's a prydaz with no proc
he got one from the shard merchant..guy...on the vindicar...@960 something?
warm plinth
lol
warm plinth
I didn't even know you could get that from relinq
fringe marten
945 arcano crystal
warm plinth
Jesus
warm plinth
Honestly I think titanforging is fine; just put a damn cap on it based on the original source of the item
Like taking arcanocrystal and then making it able to be 985 when the original item is 860...come on
fringe marten
Yeah when I saw that neck...I was like "?????you can get a raid quest reward item from relinquished vendor???"
warm plinth
That's gotta be like an exception...idk of any other quest rewards you can get from it
Aside from like the WQ stat stick type shit
fringe marten
In the right hands that character could be a 100% parsing toon...instead he's some random ? I think warlock IIRC....who was just awful.
warm plinth
970 tier from LFR, good grief
fringe marten
yeah like a few guildmates and myself were doing LFR for? I think our mythic cache
warm plinth
Like...if Titanforging capped at its base (15), I think it would be just fine.
fringe marten
and suddenly everyone says "WTF check out this warlock OMG"
warm plinth
Was he garbage or just afking? lol
fringe marten
the 945? or so arcano had everyone crying
no he was trash..they looked up his toon to be sure ...he's just some no one, with no progression...plays poorly...and has repeat lottery winning luck on his side.
warm plinth
Wow
fringe marten
That's the best neck in the game...if you could get it forged up that high.
warm plinth
Wow, Monday morning and my realm still has like 13 +2s at the bottom of the Upper Kara leaderboard
fringe marten
...I'm bored..gonna' see if any oceanic or aussie groups have a DHT going
and I need to do old ulduar for the xmog shield from..? that guy with the mace
All that shit I was talkin' earlier and now the premade finder has every key listed at various levels....maybe I just notice it when a ton of the same key pops up.
unborn island
UK is my favourite instance to do, as the timer is so lenient. with decent dps you can even wipe a couple of times and still make the timer
(for +2)
fringe marten
yup
undone sun
Plus shade is a joke
unborn island
that too
I mean, because it's tyrannical there's a chance shade might get to use one special
but nor usually 😃
fringe marten
well warriors (with leggo legs) are specifically equipped to make that boss exceptionally easy
unborn island
yep, can imagine it might actually be challenging without one
fringe marten
For a lot of other tanks medievh is not friendly.
merry cave
I don't have legs and it's still a joke lol
ionic fern
Medivh on a paladin is also fun. 👋
sick sentinel
MikScrollingBattleText anyone? ..got a minor issue
undone sun
What's the issue
sick sentinel
From what ilvl I should be able to withstand normal Antorus? And will 930 will be enough to tank M+10 and more?
nimble oasis
Should be golden at 930 surely?
sick sentinel
@undone sun
it only shows partial absorb, when both happens > block and absorb
want it to show: -123k A:456k B:789k
but doesnt happen
gloomy light
what is that UI WutFace
sick sentinel
haha .. just madeup yesterday
WA/Elvui mix in progress
kinda funky - dont know if i like it yet
but that one-klick gear & trinket swap bars on right side make things pretty easy 😃
warm plinth
That font makes me wanna punch a baby
slate obsidian
that UIis just a fckin JokeZ
warm plinth
Can't judge the UI. If it works for him, it works for him. But that font...judging hardcore
final mist
We can totally judge UIs.
warm plinth
Hey, more power to you. I just don't :p
warm plinth
😮
undone sun
🤔
proper pecan
dis is jokeZ bout Sco's UI?
slate obsidian
@proper pecan why does your Dog have a horse-face
proper pecan
cuz its rowdy and steven
hasty talon
Hi guys.. Why do I see so few prot warriors in high level keys lately?
timid jay
Isnt really a recent thing
We dont bring as much utility as a bdk and not as much damage as a vdh
strong hill
^ kind of like challange modes . People want a specific tank/set up. Also there is the fact some tanks dont feel like doing them. Reward vs Time spent doing them
inland plinth
for m+ memento, urn, codex or leviathan's hunger? dont feel like i need def atm
ember arrow
meme ento
inland plinth
great and second slot probably urn for the str right?
ember arrow
none of those are particularly good dps wise
glaives, diimas, shivermaw
those would be a better option
inland plinth
yea, its an alt and recently figured id get it up to speed
dusk cloak
slate obsidian
WHO WANTS TO DO COS+22 WITH ONLY PROTWARRIORS?
timid jay
Eu or Na?
slate obsidian
Eu
slate obsidian
I mean tyrannical endboss might be tough, but I handled it solo on 20, so who knows
slate obsidian
well the aoe he does is pretty nasty
proper pecan
wait for me 2 hrs
slate obsidian
yeah you definitely need to cycle your def CDs for it^^
ember arrow
dont stay in his melee or near his clones
take no dmg
while he does slicing maelstrom
slate obsidian
no you just take 2/3 of the damage if you stay away
proper pecan
ping me if you'll decide to do it
timid jay
If you're doing it later today, I'm up for it
slate obsidian
alright, I'll set up a group for it, let's see iif we find 2 more derks
ember arrow
horde?
slate obsidian
oh, yeah horde
ember arrow
eu right
ember arrow
name?
proper pecan
fock, imma filthty alliance dog
slate obsidian
it's listed as "COS+22 PROT WARRIORS ONLY
proper pecan
can u roll alliance for a while?
slate obsidian
I am very uninformed xd
timid jay
I mean levko
ember arrow
i assumed ur eu
timid jay
Hes been here a while
proper pecan
Im up
junior ivy
i just inspected myself
and saw this
WHY AM I STUPID WHY DO I DO THIS SO OFTREN?
WHERE THE HELL ARE MY SHOULDERS
fleet galleon
Make sure you stream/record the run please! @slate obsidian @timid jay
And don't forget neck @junior ivy
junior ivy
OMG
NECK TOOP
TOO
WHY
where did i put t hem
im gonna freak if i cant find them
i already restored too much stuff
i found them both
crisis averted
fleet galleon
Haha good!
Also, @slate obsidian make sure you all keep the imps stunned on second boss with that no DR warbringer. It'll be hilarious to watch 😄
unborn island
That's actually a really good point
with 5x prot warrior, you can basically permastun anything, for 25s before it gets to do, well, anything
iron jolt
Is someone streaming this?
prisma crane
actually, i wouldnt be surprised if multiple prot warr puts WB on DR, since iirc it does DR itself
but maybe i'm wrong
shut summit
Doesn't dr itself
prisma crane
damn, then total lockdown would be a thing with that many warr
junior ivy
does anyone have a rogue alt
prisma crane
Sense
junior ivy
i just wanna know which spec is best for rogue
unborn island
i mean, who cares about rogue alts, we've just discovered that 5x prot warr is the BIS m+ combo
ember arrow
we did it
timid jay
prisma crane
did you beat the timer?
prisma crane
you can all leap around a column at once
use shoulders
would LoS the imps in place
timid jay
We just died when people tried to go for explosive inside the fire
prisma crane
ah, yea rofl
timid jay
you step a bit to close and you insta die
prisma crane
i bet a pillar was the play to go with
to make it easier, since you can LoS orbs too
but man i cant wait til next wk is over
slate obsidian
you can only platform the orbs, right?
prisma crane
what?
slate obsidian
like when you get on stairs and stuff
prisma crane
afaik it's just LoS, altitude doesnt matter
i mean, i guessif the orb is lower on the stairs and you're further over the landing you'd LoS it
prisma crane
for what?
timid jay
Last boss
slate obsidian
sounds like alot of chaos tho tbh, we barely managed to kill the imps in time for the next spawn without pulling them around first
prisma crane
if you're always moving out of LoS, leaving them alive only poses explosive issues
but yea, it'd be slow as hell
timid jay
Was fun though, probably could have picked a easier dungeon this week though
ember arrow
dmg taken was very low
jsut some mistakes on secodn boss
if we knew at 1st pull how to handle properly
esp positioning it wud be great
oienshot
timid jay
Imps burst was a bit annoying tbh
Something like VotW should have been a lot easier
Which is mainly phys damage
ember arrow
tfw all ppl were higher gear than me
i was lowest dps but highest hps
so that brings me soem comfort
timid jay
You did run InsPres though
ember arrow
so did 1 other guy
slate obsidian
I think VotW EYE-Boss intermission might have been tough
timid jay
Fair
ember arrow
elipade was runnin it too
i ahve to learn to use revenge more
i still hold it too often
slate obsidian
you need to spam dat shit whenever you have rage, cause dps>hps
who needs ignore pain when the mobs die quicker
prisma crane
who was top dmg?
timid jay
was pretty close iirc
slate obsidian
prisma crane
damn nice
i bet half the differences came down to when one died before the others
man, now i wish i could do those lol
i have a 24 BRH
ember arrow
second boss u need to jnow ioptimal tway to control imps
prisma crane
hmm
timid jay
We we're pretty damn well geared though, everyone was above 960
slate obsidian
don't think the second boss would be that hard, you can tauntswap all the time to handle the aa-dmg
prisma crane
the fire though
since it's all melee
that person has to get out asap
and the dash really hurts too
slate obsidian
you can just use SW on every dash
prisma crane
plus on a 24, those adds live forever
timid jay
The adds were the hard part about second boss tbh
prisma crane
nice thing though about explosive
ember arrow
i dont think u can do smashpite
prisma crane
free VR procs
ember arrow
it does?
prisma crane
yes
ember arrow
MY WHOLE LIFE
WAS A LIE
usually kills for me were when room was about to be full
so i assumed
prisma crane
you would have to leap over a shitload of it, but his charge would be nothing since you can trade his charge 5x
usually you get cornered on one side, then the other eventually opens up
slate obsidian
and you can ignore his AAs by using a destiny-driver-chain, ain't that great
prisma crane
lmao
better off just taunt swapping when out of CDs
if it comes to that
since bracers will retop you pretty quick once not actively tanking
slate obsidian
the stairs are also easy af when no dps can get rekt by bats
prisma crane
yea, and chain stun the big dudes
just literally skystep potion to the top and have at it
ember arrow
tank problems are msotly mistakes
and it takes longer
the thigns usually oenshottign dps are of no concern
slate obsidian
but you need to have someone stay outside to bait the cat on the 2nd floor, or she'll rip the whole group apart
prisma crane
not really
also, now that i think about it
this wk, the bats would be fucking awful
too many orbs
slate obsidian
the bats don't trigger any affixes
ember arrow
except necrotic
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
necrotic is me running up and down stairs
like a madman
prisma crane
supposedly they fixed that, but everyone i know hates BRH so i rarely go there
ember arrow
u mean necrotic?
on bats
last time on necrotic i did it like 1 month ago i can confirm they stacked it
fleet galleon
@timid jay where can we watch the recording of CoS? 😄
fleet galleon
Oh Jesus
timid jay
I'll do a proper encoding pass
tepid nest
guys what save rotation to survive mos first boss on 20+ tyranical ? which legs trinkets save cds?
timid jay
Legendary legs are huge there, can SR almost all dark slashes
timid jay
When it comes to other CD's it'll depend on your gear
Having a pet class taunt the boss before the dark slash is a common tactic as well
prisma crane
SR, SR, eat it, SR
unborn island
Demo shout+Huge IP for first one (it still really hurts), Spell reflect the next 3 (this ensures you can reflect the one with the skeletons up), Shield Wall the one after that, SR the next, LS next, SR......
prisma crane
for me at least
unborn island
what Krotos said works too, but i prefer to take the first as there's no other dmg going on at that point
prisma crane
better off eating the 2nd or 3rd one, that way your charges are refilling while you skip that one, in case the fight goes long
unborn island
^^ that's actually a very good point
tepid nest
so legend legs must have there?
unborn island
(although I don't think i've ever diedd on that boss when it wasn't necrotic)
junior ivy
i wish all class discords were as good as this one 😦
playing alts sucks casue i dont have thius resource
tepid nest
the damage of this huge hit remains same during fight? coz i ate like 2 of them with ip only and had 30% hp left, and other hit just shaved me off with archimond trinket use + full hp. iam 975 equipped/ had manaroth+ archimonde
timid jay
Yeah, its the same
unborn island
your max IP is probably more than the shield from Archimonde's?
IDK though, never used AHR
tepid nest
had like 9.5kk hp and 4k hp of ip. i think
sharp fern
@timid jay hello friend have question
timid jay
Hello friend @sharp fern . What is your question friend
sharp fern
@timid jay Yes hello friend. My question is why are you currently not boosting me in m+?
timid jay
@sharp fern Friend you boost me
sharp fern
@timid jay Ok friend lets boost
timid jay
@sharp fern
sharp fern
@timid jay Friend only need 1% is ok
quartz pond
junior ivy
first time playin my rogue and i got kicked from a dungeon group 😦
unborn island
well, if you will play a wannabe warrior who isn't strong enough to wear plate and dual weild 2 handers, what do you expect? 😛
prisma crane
idk, rogue solo tanked Gruul back in the day
brave halo
Sephuz's Secret in M+? That's a lotta haste.
timid jay
its pretty good for short packs, belt is a lot stronger overall
I prefer running gloves/belt generally in m+, so I dont have to bother with triggering the ring on CD
slate obsidian
always run bracers, because deep inside you know that the healer is crap
ember arrow
they gonna take my bracers off of my cold, dead hands
timid jay
I dont even run bracers in raids anymore 🤔
unborn island
I use them for all m+ bosses
because i know that with them,even if the healer dies, so will the boss.
The number of times I've used them to solo tyrannical bosses from ~15/20% is huge
fathom badger
what's good talents for just speed running a heroic for fun with speed boots and heroic leap shoulders ?
proper pecan
gloves\belt
fathom badger
heroic dungeon I mean 😛
no major dps talents or something that would be the best to tank the place the fastest ?
proper pecan
deva\bv\am as always i guess
ember arrow
well i mean just pull everything, aggro and keep moving
shoulders and boots wont help u kill stiff quicker
sick sentinel
Boots do in fact help when pulling. Higher uptime = more dps overall in the dungeon.
150% MS with Boots and Sephuz. Also got Sephuz proc and Hunger of the pack to help even further.
Your whole team needs proper mobilty though. Otherwise you fight alone and forever
lavish spear
How much haste, versa, mastery, crit should i aim for?
unborn island
all of it
stark sage
ember arrow
ilvl>haste>mastery>=vers>>>>>>>>crit @lavish spear
sick sentinel
^
halcyon siren
lul
ember arrow
but unless u can manage that, jsut as muchas u can
lavish spear
Aight
sick sentinel
Levko, did you try the 100% crit block build alrdy?
ember arrow
yes
sick sentinel
aaaaand? Better survivability or worse in high m+/m antorus?
ember arrow
worse because i have liek no haste
wit it
and i dont do m raid atm
so not much point
and even if i did, only on argus mythic
sick sentinel
I see. Thanks. Won`t try it on my Testraids then ^^
compact geyser
Did you go ravager and the bladestorm helm?
timid jay
you can do 5 scythes on argus M with only SB if you have 100% mastery
sick sentinel
p3?
p1&p2 I've seen that chinese guy with indom survive 6 :p
Wait, so 7 at least with proper CD usage and 9 with double trinkets? Can't be x_X
slate obsidian
why would you even attempt to survive 6 p1 scythes?
junior ivy
anyone knolw if rogue energy acts like mana or like warrior rage?
fleet galleon
In what sense?
stark sage
it really functions different from both
fleet galleon
I guess it's more like mana in that it regenerates on its own
stark sage
it spends fast and regens fast
fleet galleon
I'm not sure I get your question though @junior ivy
ember arrow
theres not much to get
u got combo points, u get them when u spend energy
and combo points are more powerfull than energy attacks
ivory light
Hi, cannot find nethercrucible weights string for prot warrior 😦
final mist
That's because we don't have one.
languid rose
final mist
My guide has the info about relics and traits.
T2 ones don't particularly matter for survival, but Torment the Weak, Shadowbind, and such are good for DPS.
fresh timber
hey, i was wondering, would you guys go 945 crit/heavy haste belt or 970 crit/somewhat heavy mastery if you had to pick? at 41% haste atm with a 1k haste 945 belt, gut's telling me 970
fresh timber
yea its what my first gut, was debating if i should give to a guildie in this pug with me is all
thanks!
vocal nimbus
you have to spell reflect twisted something
you get the healing buff
instead of him
if you dont have spell reflect up you can kick the cast
vocal sphinx
anyone know a detailed guide for the prot mage tower mission?
i've gotten him to phase 2 a couple times but then he heals to full
vocal nimbus
read above
vocal sphinx
ah ok 😃
distant pier
Any suggestions?
round vortex
I only use 4ce/2pce on some bosses now or if we drop to 2 healers to clear faster. By default i run jsut 2pce tho. I'd suggest making 2 sets and jsut feel you way through it.
Also guys - Antorus Mission Chest pogchamp!
tawny crown
runic fjord
big same
round vortex
cheers fellas
omg my brother got a 965 auto attack ring on his alt as well... must have been a lucky day for the family lol
round vortex
It's funny because once I am surviving i pass all the TF stuff to DPS so they can big dick. We had a 960 of the same neck drop last night and gave it to our fury warrior.
So the game was rewarding me with good karma haha
junior ivy
personal loot helper tells you if anyone else needs it
but i dont think it says if its BIS
round vortex
Its literally called "Best in Slot"
people jsut choose the loot they want and it transmits to the guild
glacial sage
I don't think that it's the BiS necklace though
round vortex
We consider only the pool of items from the raid when choosing our lists.
The add on doesn't tell you whats best in slot - you pick your items and it tell you what others have chosen
So in context of the raid - that neck definitely is our best available option. (When Considering all items at their base item level)
little rain
Im pretty hype to goof around on the tournament realm with 960 4p2p and chaos talisman + cradle & jawbone + glaives
round vortex
Does it let u just pick a toon and make whatever item set up u want?
broken kite
yes
jade thorn
what is that macro for leaping at your cursor?
warm plinth
#showtooltip
/cast [@stoic erminesor] Heroic Leap
jade thorn
thank!
warm plinth
Druids are like the worst magic tank though 🤔
warm plinth
🤦
warm plinth
Yeah, like 3 patches ago
sick sentinel
Paladins and DKs are great magic tanks
warm plinth
Or 4 now? Idr. Whenever they lost MoU
ember arrow
sick sentinel
Atleast they get a nerf in BFA
warm plinth
Still on top for what?
sick sentinel
Best tank
warm plinth
I disagree
sick sentinel
Yeah
warm plinth
If I had to pick a top tank for this raid tier, I'd say it's DK
warm plinth
Just for the utilty they provide on some fights (same reason druid was OP in ToS)_
ember arrow
monks dont fall over to bleeds
warm plinth
Yep
sick sentinel
We are still good on the first few mythic antorus fights
warm plinth
Not to mention all the blockable shit in this tier
sick sentinel
Like on Mythic HC we do rly good
warm plinth
I know, we got off on a tangent
sick sentinel
I was tanking with a blood DK and he was dropping to 10 20 30 % health all the time
warm plinth
DKs are meant to drop health
sick sentinel
Right you should be fine for seat of your item level is high
warm plinth
That's the point of the spec
sick sentinel
Yeah I know DKs drop health
But every hit he dropped that low
Died a few times too
Seat is a tough dungeon
ember arrow
use pants
i macroed my SR to say /yell DONT FUCKING CC REFLECTING 5 SEC
/YELL REFLECTING OVER
that usually does the trick on the adds
dk just play a bit safer without VB
VB is their life and soul
sick sentinel
Pants are amazing for magic fights
warm plinth
Fuck Seat. I'm not gonna do it.
round vortex
I hate dungeons - its just my preference not to do them. I like them when they are fresh and you can't out gear them and doing all the achievements in random blues and crafted gear.
I don't mind my +15 each week but it's still a chore
ember arrow
dp a +24 for the blues feeling
round vortex
nah its not the same lol
It's because they are new as well, like fresh expac type feeling
ember arrow
m+ is harder than raids tanking wise
round vortex
you're missing my point lol
*I hate dungeons - its just my preference *
I enjoy the raid setting. Much, much more than dungeons.
warm plinth
Yeah everyone enjoys their own stuff. I prefer dungeons personally 😃
ember arrow
raids are so boring for me
mythic raids after u figure out after few pulls what to do
its snoozefest
round vortex
It jsut doesn't feel like progression doing keys. Maybe that's it. I like killing new stuff.
ember arrow
so u kill a boss once
warm plinth
Do you get bored with raids once they're on farm?
round vortex
Nah not really because we always have progression to do
timid jay
Farm bosses is the real snoozefest
round vortex
We build new raiders - teach them, and then move onto Mythic.
We only raid once per week tho - so there is no real burnout - our players actually crave it haha
timid jay
The video is like 5gb
round vortex
But for people to say "Mythic bosses are just pulls once or twice and zzzzz"i'd doubt you'd done it as super progression like - in TOS gear like it was tunes for.
timid jay
Haven't bothered starting the upload yet
ember arrow
i did
first 6
on first 3 weeks
after i got sick and stopped m raiding
sick of t*
round vortex
Ultimately - everyone is different - I am not going to argue for an against anyones "preference". I am happy to discuss facts like that. BUt we are going to never agree here so no pint.
timid jay
Tbh for farm bosses, you better hope your memes are good
round vortex
My preference = Hate dungeons. End of story lol. Not because they are too hard ot i can't do them or anything. Because they put me to sleep.
Plus i enjoy farm content etc..
ember arrow
:waitwhat:
timid jay
Farm can be decent if you have a good atmosphere
round vortex
Everyone in this game has the opportunity to join and play with a community that's conducive to their needs and wants. And that's what i like about it.
timid jay
Kinda like being stuck on a boss for a long while, people better be laughing at that point
ember arrow
what made me stop was that my RL decided to let trials tank farm bosses
and i can progress imonar 6 hours
yeeaa
No
round vortex
Yeah our raid atmosphere is top shelf. We often get complemented by new players for how much better it is to play with our group lol
Plus farm heroic pretty quickly and for a 3 hours per week raid group - im pretty stoked with that.
timid jay
3h per week 👀
round vortex
yea one night. lol
we all ex hardcore, server first type players that re-ignited years later for the fun catch ups in a raid setting.
timid jay
Thats really gonna suck for progressing tbh, feels like you need to be constantly extending to get any progress in
timid jay
Heroic I suppose?
round vortex
Yeah, then we cut out the first few bosses - and do some mythic to keep us entertained
did 3/9 in TOS after a heroic farm last tier
Xmas really halted the prog this tier. A bunch went on holidays like over seas etc... But first week back - one shot heroic argus every week.
We pulled Mythic Garothi last week in our last 15 mins and got him to 19% first pull. Happy with that.
timid jay
Yeah, it messed up our schedule as well
round vortex
It's a raid full of players with mortages, 50+ hr a week jobs, kids and shit now. We are the grandpas of the original wow generation lol
timid jay
@ember arrow you really want me to upload it?
ember arrow
idk, i thought u would regardless
round vortex
I do mine overnight lol
timid jay
4.6 Gb file 🙈
ember arrow
WHATS UP YALL ITS YA BOIIIII COSMONGOLD
ember arrow
best intro
ember arrow
then whyd u record it
timid jay
Idk
ember arrow
🤔
timid jay
was expecting something closer to 30min
round vortex
What's the video?
timid jay
+22 cos with 5 prot warriors
ember arrow
round vortex
lol