protection

[prisma crane]

there's a whole set of stuff ur supposed to do

[radiant osprey]

Question: I saw a video where a DH used their leap to clear multiple stun runes on the imonar bridge. Every one he jumped over was activated when he landed and then he only required one dispel. I thought heroic leap went over them without activating them. Can anyone confirm?!

[prisma crane]

DH* and yea

we just skip them

[timid jay]

DH's leap works a bit differently

[prisma crane]

but i use the leap to skip the last parts and charge boss to interuppt

[radiant osprey]

So basically the same ability, interacts with mechanics differently.

[prisma crane]

no

same in that they jump

but theirs is faster and higher

and less range afaik

[radiant osprey]

But still, it’s pretty much the same ability.

You target a spot and leap to it

[prisma crane]

sure, i guess

[radiant osprey]

Dealing some damage when you land

[prisma crane]

but for the purposes of that fight they are different

[radiant osprey]

Yep

Higher you say? And yet they still activate the runes. Seems backwards

[prisma crane]

it does, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[junior ivy]

k dumb question, in chromie thingy

i donty see a timer?

every now and then chromie mentions the time left

but id likem to see the timer

where should it be

[prisma crane]

top middle iirc

that or it's a buff on you

[junior ivy]

i stopped all 4 attacks on her

[prisma crane]

hey cat, check out Fragnance's keys this wk

[fleet galleon]

That's insane...

[prisma crane]

i'd be happy to do those "little" 25s lol

[junior ivy]

wow !

thats crazy

[prisma crane]

watching them do 24s is like how i feel in a 16-17

[fleet galleon]

Also, it should be easier to get your M+ score up now since Blizz is logging top 500 runs rather than top 100

[prisma crane]

this is true

[fleet galleon]

And where can we watch this guy?

[sick sentinel]

mythic plus score is a meme

[junior ivy]

if tonight wasnt raid night id hit 2k today

but instead it'll be friday

maybe thursday

[prisma crane]

@fleet galleon Fragnance? he's one of the higher viewed wow streamers

but those are on his lock

[fleet galleon]

Twitch?

[prisma crane]

yea

[fleet galleon]

I gotta look this guy up

[prisma crane]

DK tank, pally heals, then hunter lock rogue

[junior ivy]

i dont ever view streamers, of anyhtinhg, but itd be cool to watch people do some hiugh lvl keys

gfrom tank perspective

[prisma crane]

he's a method/serenity/Future player

[fleet galleon]

MDI was great for that

[prisma crane]

tank perspective is nice, but even just watching is fine

since you can see how they pull

[junior ivy]

i love to see other peoples UIs too lol

[prisma crane]

his is really popular

but it's basically ElvUI and lots of WA

[fleet galleon]

Oh he runs with Gingi? I've seen a bit of him on Youtube. That guy is also nuts

[prisma crane]

yea

they were all supposed to be in the MDI but then gingi got banned

[junior ivy]

can you do chromie stuff in a group?

or its gotta be solo?

[prisma crane]

no

solo

[fleet galleon]

Why banned?

[junior ivy]

kk

[prisma crane]

account sharing and cash sales

[tribal shale]

2k is really mediocre mythic score imo

[prisma crane]

the gingi he is on now is a different hunter than in ToS

[tribal shale]

i got 2k doing only 15s on time

[prisma crane]

sure, but that's not easy for everyone

[tribal shale]

and don't have have a single seat

[prisma crane]

it's the first milestone

[tribal shale]

i refuse to do seat

[prisma crane]

its not even hard

if people do their job

[tribal shale]

i think the gear requirement for tanks to do a +15 is wayy lower than the gear required for the dps checks on most dungeons

[prisma crane]

depends, but sure

that said, pathing and pull selection alone will save tons of time though

gear isnt everything, though it obviously helps

[tribal shale]

yea

what i mean is

every decent tank can tank the damage from a 15

with ~940 gear

but not every dps can deal the required damage with the same level of gear

[prisma crane]

sure they can, if they play as well as the tank

and the tank pulls in a way that serves them

[sick sentinel]

you most certainly can do a 15 easily with 940 gear

[muted moth]

15s are pretty easy, id say you could tank them at 930 or 923 if you know how and when to use your kit in the instance

[round hornet]

@junior ivy I think shakib and zqs stream but they don't play prot war

[junior ivy]

oh ok might check em out anyway

btw are people having issues logging onto wow riguyht now?

[muted moth]

yea, they know about it, shouldnt take too long

[junior ivy]

kk

im online but my sister cant get on and i keep seeing bnet friends log on off on off on off on off

bnut their wow characters never log on

[undone sun]

yeah a lot of people are having that problem

i am as well

[muted moth]

same

ppl who were online earlier this morning and didnt log off are fine

or i guess afternoon, cause i call that morning

[junior ivy]

hope it doesnt affect raid tonight

[undone sun]

NA Testing for EU

same as always

[fleet galleon]

Heard it was a DDoS attack but not sure

[topaz ember]

yea a DDoS attack from every single wow playier trying to pre order BFA

and their system refreshes ever 15s

there*

[warm plinth]

^

[sick sentinel]

EU is affected just as much

[topaz ember]

Can EU pre order today?

[prisma crane]

yea

[formal kayak]

is there a spec that performs the best in low level battlegrounds?
or they are even?
like level 20-30

[prisma crane]

#223972896219856896

tbh i have no idea either

and this is the worst warr spec to ask about pvp

[topaz ember]

i got 1600 in 2s as prot, pretty much a god

[prisma crane]

did you start back in november?

those matches would be ResidentSleeper

[topaz ember]

I cant remember i wanted to see if i could get 2k as prot but i could not find a good enough carry

[warm plinth]

TFW I found out you can't have 2 tanks in 2v2 😦

[topaz ember]

haha for real

[warm plinth]

I wanted to run double blood DK and laugh at people

[topaz ember]

even as prot i pretty much would never die until are IP did nothing

[subtle shadow]

Run Prot Warrior and Defensive Stance arms Warrior.

[warm plinth]

Legendary effects don't work in arena right?

[topaz ember]

don't think so but honestly cant remember

[cinder nova]

It'd be so amazing if WoW's blades were totally wiped

The backups too.

Everyone somehow losing their characters in this update

Starting from day 0

nnf

Also something something devestator is imba indom is shit

Just to keep it relevant.

👍

[warm plinth]

Woah

I haven't heard imba in years

Calm down with that retro e-slang Swole

[cinder nova]

You can't make me

[topaz ember]

if it was up to me id make indom turn you into a rock increasing health by 40% and grats you 100% uptime on sheild block but you cant cast anything

[cinder nova]

Just a giant beef potato of a tank

[topaz ember]

you also cant move

[cinder nova]

For the superspud players that are that rare breed of degenerates that "collect passives"

It's a term I've heard once or twice.

I think my heart palpated when I heard it.

[glacial sage]

Where do I get the quest to be a void elf?

I want to be coooooool

[prisma crane]

is upright orc/troll in the game yet?

[tranquil sand]

no

[sick sentinel]

guys quick help

wit hwhat cds do you usually take foe breakers on aggramar heroic?

i usually go with demo and good stacked ignore pain, sometimes i take no damage, sometimes i get 1 shot

should just go with last stand and shield wall all the time?

[undone sun]

NF

guarenteed crit block for every foebreaker, not much damage at all

[zealous trellis]

hey guys

i was wondering does the jeweled signet of melandrus affect the devastator talent's damage?

[undone sun]

it does not

[zealous trellis]

ahhh bugger

[undone sun]

melees and devastator are still separate in damage meters

[zealous trellis]

i got a 980 of it in the 1st week chest

😦

Ty vm! 😄

Gloves and bracers still a good choice? otherwise whats the next best choices at the moment

for legendaries, i picked up a really high i lvl set of gloves, but not sure if i can value the trade

[undone sun]

yup, those two are still good unless you're running the 6pc tier combo locking the gloves lots into tier

[zealous trellis]

yeah no tier items cbf got too many high i lvl dungeon and non set raid items

[upper spoke]

tryin to log in, and i just see population: realm incompatible

any advice?

[shut summit]

restart b.net client

[untold vigil]

get patch

[shut summit]

Might be patch you're missing

[winter halo]

How big is patcj?

[shut summit]

Was just a small one

[winter halo]

Ive got 800mb so might not be able to play for a week then :(

[upper spoke]

thanks for the tip 😃

darn that brought my to the black screen of death

outta luck until tomorrow?

[shut summit]

Just leave it on char select and it'll showup after a bit

[upper spoke]

awesome thanks again sense

[humble oar]

Guys we progress Varimathras mythic tomorrow and I main arms but am being the 3rd tank on the fight to deal with necrotic. Any pointers? optimal leggos or talents?

[warm plinth]

Anyone boosted a 110 yet? Curious what ilevel you end up with.

[undone sun]

870

[warm plinth]

Ah okay, thanks

[shut summit]

Just dps build / legendaries for vari escort tank

[undone sun]

@humble oar offensive setup, nothing special is needed for that role just Spell reflect for every add spawn/necrotic drop off

[warm plinth]

No legendaries I assume?

[humble oar]

with the timings for the add spawn do you need to take the 2 charge leggo?

[undone sun]

nope, it's on time for a single charge

[humble oar]

nice, I currently still run the 4 tier 20 2 tier 21 with the walls fell so I dont know if I will need to make any drastic changes

[undone sun]

pretty much just go for as much damage as you can, nothing threating in the slightest

[humble oar]

mmm it does look like a very easy fight tbh I just wasnt sure if that was deceptive or not

[hallow phoenix]

So I'm a bit confused on stat sticks. I got a 920 mastery stat stick with a socket. If I want to go for more DPS should I be using that over Diimas? -653 STR +1272 Mastery +200 haste

Seems worth but Im not sure how good strength is

[warm plinth]

What other trinket are you using?

[hallow phoenix]

It's usually aggramar's conviction

I almost never take that off for raids

[warm plinth]

Ah okay

What ilevel is the Diima's?

[hallow phoenix]

945

[warm plinth]

I would use Diima's

[hallow phoenix]

So for DPS 2 STR >~ 1 off stat?

or sorry, 1 STR >~ 2 off stat

[warm plinth]

Eh, not really. It's more that Diima's has strength and a decent chunk of damage from the use effect. Unfortunately for us, it's almost entirely feelycraft on what is better than what.

[hallow phoenix]

simcraft pls

fix us

[warm plinth]

😢

[sick sentinel]

Dima click works with BC so for huge packs it will be god tier if its off cd

[hallow phoenix]

Yeah i try to always use it during BC+demo

its gross

[sick sentinel]

i keep around 7-8 diff armor sets for diff trinket combos

[warm plinth]

Hnngh

[hallow phoenix]

Mind sharing some combinations for bosses?

[warm plinth]

Wish I raided just so I could have 2pc T21 and a couple of trinkets

[hallow phoenix]

I use DMD for some physical heavy fights

[warm plinth]

But meh

[hallow phoenix]

but usually find myself using diimas

[sick sentinel]

my gear is at the point where i dont really bother with defensive trinks anymore

glaives + dima is a fun one

[warm plinth]

Man, getting excited about these allied races...might have to remake all my toons

[sick sentinel]

most the trinkets i use arent from raids

[warm plinth]

Lightforged Draenei heritage armor looks sick

[sick sentinel]

chrono, memento, stat sticks, all really strong if you get good rolls. 15 maw is really easy key to spam

[warm plinth]

This week is gonna be so nice for keys

[sick sentinel]

and has other good haste armor pieces/ring

tentacle loop with a socket at 940 gives you over 2k haste and 2100 mastery. really strong ring if you're not using the BRH or Eonar rings

[warm plinth]

I wonder if HMT knockdown has DR with anything

And if things like the champions in Maw would be immune or not

[timber nest]

warcraft logs down for anyone else?

[undone sun]

yup

[merry cave]

Are highmountain racial really really strong for tanking or am I reading into it to much. Just reading MMOs champs intro to them

[undone sun]

defensively it definitely seems like the g o to

[zealous trellis]

how does that racial passive work? is it a flat value that is raised as you level? or is it a %age based reduction?

[timid jay]

I belive its a flat value that increases when you level

[junior ivy]

one shotted heroic kingaroth for first time!

[zealous trellis]

with the verse and a flat dmg reduc value albeit i believe only several hundred, it'd make a significant difference

[junior ivy]

whivch is better apoc drive or dimas?

[timid jay]

@zealous trellis Reduces damage taken by (Stamina * 0.0003 * 60).

according to wowhead

[zealous trellis]

So it does scale somewhat

[timid jay]

yeah, seems decently strong

with 1% versa ontop of that

[zealous trellis]

the value for the dmg reduction would be incredibly small i reckon between 800-2k at the most

but over a massively long fight, with that value taken off before your defenses i'd say it makes a marginal impact, yeah as you said especially with the extra 1% versatility.

[timid jay]

Seems more handy for m+, with more small hits coming your way

[zealous trellis]

its a base line reduction effectiveness would be the same across the board realistically

[timid jay]

If you compare m+ to mythic bosses

Lets say you pull a pack of 4 mobs in m+ that in total have the same DPS as the raid boss, the racial would be 4 times stronger in m+

Just because its a flat reduction and not a %DR

[zealous trellis]

oh yeah

i get ya

[sick sentinel]

no way im switching to highmountain until i get the heritage armor

looking fabulous > marginal benefit of racials

[warm plinth]

Yeah it'll be interesting to see how significant that reduction is with the stat squish

[cinder nova]

Someone give me a rundown of your immonar strats for m

[cinder nova]

My guild wants us to clear the mines and I think that's a shit idea, but eh

[timid jay]

Which one of the bridges?

Tanks generally clear the brunt of the green bridges

I do clear the first red bridge and get ressed by a shaman totem

[steel mauve]

You kind of have to clear the mines...

We can do red bridges with no deaths, but we expend our cds as a tank doing so

[edgy elbow]

Is anyone else doing FAR more damage than they should be in dungeons currently? like shield slam is critting into 1.5m everytime at the moment.

[steel mauve]

We split red bridges though, i do first half we meet in the middle and pop the rest of our cds and let the dh clear the last half

Otherwise tanks jist clear the green bridges

[timber nest]

https://gyazo.com/e996d84d72695a1f933a18bfc7927333

LOOOL

[round vortex]

wholey shit thats nice!

[warm plinth]

1.6 million, jesus

WTB that for M+ please lol

[sick sentinel]

I understand these don't rank anywhere close to our top performing lengedaries for damage or survivability, but would you recommend insignia with refractive(x2) and master of shadows or rethu's

[little rain]

How do we feel about Highmountain tauren racials atm vs normal Tauren racials as prot?

[cedar stream]

Seems better than normal taurens racials

[neat ledge]

how much haste do i need as prot war

25%?

[cinder nova]

@timid jay during the 2nd phase

Instead of stacking and moving they jump back and forth on either side while they ask tanks to take 4 stacks of those mines

[timid jay]

oh

We never clear those

We start with everyone on the red marker with the boss and then just move along with the green arrow

So that side is littered with mines and the rest of the platform is clear for when we get back there again

[tired cove]

i was actuallt nice to CLUTCH today and told him happy birthday and everything, and that fat bastard ignored me 😦 feelsbadman

[deft sapphire]

My guild alternates between two spots and clears mines, is that not normal

[timid jay]

Probably is

That works for us though

[deft sapphire]

Oh our tanks just chain cds and stand on every set of mines

So we can be more mongo with positioning later

[topaz ember]

what my guild does is nothing because we stopped raiding

[deft sapphire]

Rip you

[tidal spire]

how is hmt racial against dots? does it decrease every tick of damage?

[undone sun]

likely, it's just flat DR

[tidal spire]

seems broken if it does, guess we'll see.

[timid jay]

Even if it does, it reduces by such a small amount

[undone sun]

^

[timid jay]

For me the reduction would be ~2700 every attack, which is miniscule

[warm plinth]

We'll have to see how hard things are hitting when the stat squish happens to know how good/bad it is ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Though if it's going off stamina in the formula and that's correct, the amount reduced will go down too

[timid jay]

We know the formula, so I highly doubt that it'll change much in relative strength

[warm plinth]

Yeah

The 1% vers is pretty nice though

[timid jay]

yeah, thats much bigger than the damage reduction

[warm plinth]

💪 I'm still really excited to play it.

Might convince me to reroll my warrior to HMT

Not like I have great legendaries anyway x_x

[quiet delta]

Best tank trinks from m+?

[topaz ember]

stat stciks are nice

[warm plinth]

Defensive trinkets are in the pins. Offensive: haste/mast sticks, Memento, Chrono

[topaz ember]

haste ones

[candid vine]

Void elf any good?

[clear sapphire]

Is there a disc/guide on the new races for Prot wars and effect on dmg/dmg taken?

[timid jay]

Its extremely minor, doubt its worthy of a guide or pin

[undone sun]

as is most racials, it's very minor

[deft sapphire]

the new best race for prot is actually lightforged draenei, as you die so often the passive is a substantial dps increase

[timid jay]

[final mist]

Clearly it's Nightborne for the mailbox.

[timid jay]

You changed race yet sal?

[warm plinth]

Can we talk about the name for the mailbox racial? How in blue hell does Cantrips = Mailbox?

[compact geyser]

Cause people can't pronounce prestidigitation

[warm plinth]

I mean, unless you summon the mailbox and go to open it and it goes "PSYCH" and disappears?

[ripe cypress]

That's because in worst case scenario you cantrip on it

I'll show myself out

[warm plinth]

/golfclap

[prisma crane]

Cosmo

those paint skills

👌

[warm plinth]

He's going places, for sure.

[final mist]

Nah Cosmo, Blizzard fucked up and ended up charging my bank five times so my bank account is locked.

So now I need to wait.

I am a little nettled.

[tired cove]

ouch

that sucks sal

but i guess better 5 then 19 like some people

[final mist]

I just want to be Nightborne

[warm plinth]

Nightborne o_o;

You really want that mailbox huh Sal

[timid jay]

@final mist

easy race change

[prisma crane]

majestic AF

[warm plinth]

🤔

But do the void elves have night elf proportions on the males?

That's the real question

[timid jay]

no idea

[prisma crane]

no, they match BE

[final mist]

I don't care about racials

[warm plinth]

Hard to tell but they look like BE

Thanks for updating Discord

[final mist]

[warm plinth]

That's good at least

[final mist]

I just like their animations

If all my friends weren't Horde, I'd be ne

[timid jay]

yeah, looks amazing

The jump looks a bit strange though

[final mist]

So being able to have their animations and be Horde is so good

[timid jay]

Like the legs are clipping into your thighs

[final mist]

The sword/shield animation is just

[warm plinth]

They have whose animations?

NE?

[timid jay]

yeah

[deft sapphire]

i hope you mean female NE

[final mist]

Mhmm

[warm plinth]

So they do the front flip?

[deft sapphire]

male NE is an abomination

[warm plinth]

It really is

[final mist]

Male NE don't exist

[timid jay]

male NE looks like they really need to take a shit

[warm plinth]

It's like they mixed a gorilla and an elf together

And that's what they came up with

Actually looks like maybe the same race that Mega Man is

ROFL

ROFL

That was me trying to post a picture of a naked night elf male rofl!

Anyway, they totally look like Megaman

[timid jay]

Looks like the filter is working at least

[warm plinth]

Yeah, if it blocks that, nothing is getting through

[fossil spindle]

I’ve missed the hype train. What happens to all the leggos on BfA?

[warm plinth]

There are none in BfA presently I don't believe. They said they may add one or two but they'll be like older legendaries where they aren't common or required

[fossil spindle]

Hm... prot warrior still is the only class w/o self healing. Great. 😄

[fringe adder]

You mean victory rush doesn't count?

[fossil spindle]

Yes, spam that on a boss fight w/o adds

I’ve solod more then plenty thanks to bracers. Feels bad man.

[simple pasture]

Anyone got numbers on scaling for the Highmountain dmg reduction passive?

[timid jay]

Reduces damage taken by (Stamina * 0.0003 * 60).

[simple pasture]

And it scales with gear? Not just base stam? Seems like it would be a bitch to balance. Dunno how much that comes to on a 950ish geared prot warrior.

[timid jay]

at ~968 equipped its 2700

aka so small that it doesnt really matter

[misty merlin]

does it affect stagger

can you even be a highmountain monk

[timid jay]

cant say I'm 100% on how stagger works

You'll probably have to ask in the monk discord for that

[misty merlin]

it probably doesnt work how im thinking it could

is the proc rate on Ember of Nullification worth considering?

silencing things unreliably seems kinda stupid

[undone sun]

no it's not worth

[misty merlin]

worth a shot heh

just figured id ask since i got a relinquished one

[humble patio]

I just got a 970 shivermaw's jawbone, thats a pretty good trinket at that itemlevel still isnt it?

[midnight yacht]

Woohoo i got a 965 chaos talsiman boys

[fallow knot]

wooo nice. while we're on the celebration train I got a +15 seat keystone....................... ugh 😉

[midnight yacht]

Rip 😆

[wind scroll]

What affixes? 😛

What are your thoughts on going NE to VE ?

[fallow knot]

affixes are teeming, volcanic (I think, can't confirm just heard rumors they swapped from necrotic), and tyrannical. Also only go from anything to gnome. thats pretty much the only option

[tranquil sand]

if you like you go, the only real racial powerhouse is the cheaper tmog

[warm plinth]

It is indeed teem/volc

[copper cedar]

did they change other affix combos as well?

[warm plinth]

No way to know until we see next week. We don't even know if this is a permanent change

[copper cedar]

right

not having teeming necrotic this week is nothing to complain about :X

[warm plinth]

Hell yeah

Went from "man fuck dungeons this week" to "hell yeah, time to get some shit done!"

[copper cedar]

aye

you can see the next weeks affixes ingame, can´t you? maybe they have modified that table by now?

cannot check ingame right now

[timid jay]

Thats a addon

Default doesnt show next weeks

[warm plinth]

That's Angry Keystones

[knotty stone]

would HMT 'technically' be the best race survival wise?

[warm plinth]

They use the existing schedule

[copper cedar]

ahhh, right

so used to it..

[timid jay]

Probably for the 1% versatility

[warm plinth]

Technically, yeah. The 1% vers probably does that on its own

[undone sun]

yes

[timid jay]

The bonuses are so small anyway

[warm plinth]

But it's not worth rerolling and it's not significant, like any other racial ability (except Arcane Torrent which is ridiculous)

[knotty stone]

i figured the vers would put them on top. i know casters ally side pretty much need to roll VE...they're op lol

[warm plinth]

I don't think they're the only race that has magic damage are they?

[knotty stone]

VE has no cast interruption from damage

and a random 5% increase to damage

[warm plinth]

Eh, but that's not really a thing except in PvP is it?

[knotty stone]

true

[warm plinth]

Oh yeah I forgot about that proc

[fallow knot]

I dunno I still think arcane resistance 1%, escape artist, 5% primary resource, and 1% haste from gnomes is still really good. but I might be bias

[warm plinth]

I'm with you sweetie 💋

[fallow knot]

hahahaha

was volcanic that thing you wanted to test?

[warm plinth]

Nah it was bursting

[fallow knot]

dang was thinking you might have got lucky with the switcheroo

[warm plinth]

Haha I'd rather do Necrotic than Bursting

Nah that's not actually true

[fallow knot]

I dont mind bursting as a tank since most of the time we can control that pacing to avoid stupid

necrotic just makes things more tedious than need be

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[unborn island]

what did you want to test on bursting?

If they'd made stoneform get rid of it since 7.3.5?

[warm plinth]

No, if it did prior to 7.3.5

Since the last bursting was prior to that

I just wanna know why I didn't get 12 stacks of it like the rest of my group

And Stoneform is the only other thing I can thin kof

think of*

[unborn island]

I definitely tried to remove it with stoneform and it didn't work. Never tried it pre-emptively to see if it stops application though I think.

[warm plinth]

That would be a strange way of working

But glad someone has tried it. On the other hand, now I'm even more mystified.

[fallow knot]

the world may never know

[warm plinth]

😢

[arctic sedge]

Man got a shitty 975 m+ trinket in my cache. Why does RNG hate me so much.

[hushed swallow]

Question Mythic Felhounds: Is there a way to ensure you always get the same touched debuff?

[undone sun]

no

[bright mortar]

Oo

[timber abyss]

M+ God Trinket right there holy

[bright mortar]

Oh yeah baby

Isn't it like very strong for necrotic weeks ?

I mean, like much better with it than other weeks ?

[unborn island]

Does it share a CD with Diima's?

because that combo could be ridiculous otherwise

[bright mortar]

I'll try and keep you guys up

Got a normal 945 one lol

[unborn island]

IDK if I can stomach going prot and ending up getting a 970 Shard of Rokmora for the off chance that I get a good Shivermaw's.....

[bright mortar]

Ahahahah it doesn't share a CD nor a GCD with Shivermaw's

Ngl I'm pretty fucking excited to try it out in MM+

And it has the exact same cooldown, wich means that you can pretty much become invincible every minute

So well yeah, now that I have a 960 shivermaw and 945 Diima's, 915 glaives are useless even in a heavy AOE/MM+ situation ?

[arctic sedge]

Coagulated Nightwell Residue is what I got. Ilvl975...

[warm plinth]

Shivermaw doesn't share CD with anything

I would alternate Shivermaw and Glaives honestly

Use Shivermaw when glaives are on CDS

CD*

[sick sentinel]

how do you survive tanking two big dogs on normal as a warrior?

just there I got my neat 5mil IP but then I kept getting oneshot

like sure, you survive the first few with cds but what then

as any other tank I don't even need cds in the first place

[unborn island]

chain CD's and pray - there shouldn't be anything which 1 shots you though IMO (that being said I haven't done it)

[sick sentinel]

without cds I die to maw and a melee with IP/SB up

[timid jay]

That sounds very wrong

[sick sentinel]

yeah

[timid jay]

The maw itself doesn't hurt much at all if you block it

[sick sentinel]

do you raid as cosmo and did that/log that already?

[timid jay]

Sköldkast - stormscale

Eu

[sick sentinel]

ty

you're nightborne already 😄

[timid jay]

Ofc, gotta get those sweet animations

[sick sentinel]

argh

I try to delay it all to the end of the week or so, when everything is guaranteed to be post-hype normality

ya okay

think I got the issue

eating both cone aoes

so IP vanishes on one and the other rocks the remaining 6mil hp away

[timid jay]

Oh, missed that you tanked both dogs

[sick sentinel]

ye

quadrupel damage not smart

it's np on BDK

but protwarr is super fragile it seems

especially since you can be a toddler and be great on BDK but that doesn't work on warr

mean hit face on keyboard doesn't create 1mil hps+

[timid jay]

Whats your ilvl?

Because 6M hp isn't that much

[sick sentinel]

got like 8.5mil, am close to 960

just that was what's been left after tha cone aoe

[timid jay]

Tried legs if the maws are somewhat synced?

[sick sentinel]

er, I doubt it's gear or lege choices but just 12p issues

just saw on wcl that other warrs did it seemingly without issue

[timid jay]

Aight, well just ask if you have any more specific questions

[sick sentinel]

you bet i will

[left meteor]

To be honest I tanked both Dogs without wanting to once and I just kinda pressed CDs and relied on my healers to burst me up when I dropped but I got one shot when the bosses had like 2% left.

[sick sentinel]

btw do you get beta-access if you pre-order

checked mmo-champion and blue post didnt find anything

Forgot to change loot spec

Feelsbadman

[primal crypt]

.......

[fossil spindle]

Yh, bis M+ trinket and feels bad.

[sick sentinel]

It's not BiS without proper moonglaives. 🤷

I saw a priest today who got a trinket that boosted auto attacks

Seal your fate broken on EU?

Only got one out of it this time

[vocal obsidian]

Why u guys like jawbone so much?

[sick sentinel]

Just tested it.

25% Bonus dmg when 5 are hit

Dayum

[fleet galleon]

That comes from the 10k vers right?

[sick sentinel]

11k

[fleet galleon]

Right, sorry

Saw a guy here earlier with a 960 one which had roughly 2k vers per target so was going off of that

[sick sentinel]

Are there any good dps trinkets for AoE with 1min cd?

[fleet galleon]

Most raid trinkets are nerfed for prot. Trying to think of dungeon trinkets that might be good. Shivermaw's is one of the best though

It also doesn't share a cooldown with Diima's so there's that benefit

[sick sentinel]

Kil'JAedens is halfed in dmg, too?

Diimas has one min, too

Perfect. Thx

[fleet galleon]

I don't think so. But there's definitely better legendary options than KJ's

[sick sentinel]

if I use revenge when it have proced do my leggo wrists trigger

[fleet galleon]

Yes

[sick sentinel]

Guardian swear on that DCC from upper kara. But guess it wont have that much impact on prot

[fleet galleon]

DCC?

[stiff gate]

Dcc is good for Guardian cuz they have leggos that boost arcane damage

And heal you for % arcane and nature as well iirc

Or at least that’s why it’s good for rdruid guardian affinity dps in m+

[sick sentinel]

And ...its agi/int only. Just looked it up. So nvm.

[stiff gate]

Shivermaw+glaives is pretty nuts

[sick sentinel]

I'll try to get my hands on a higher chronoshard. Even 940 its doable with that setbonus. 😋

30% speedprocs yeah

[delicate urchin]

4t21 or 2+2 what better same ilvl

on ST

[crude pond]

Is it necessary to have 100% mastery to kill mythic Argus?

[bitter girder]

hi, just got the leggo gloves, any point in tracking the buff?

[flat kelp]

sry if question is already asked, but new races would be better for a prot war ? void elf's racial seems to deal much dmg

[tiny sphinx]

from what I understand 100% mast is not necessary for mythic argus, but it makes it a hell of a lot easier, and as for tracking glove buff- no, you're not going to wait for autoattacks to shielslam

[fleet galleon]

Highmountain Tauren is probably best from a damage reduction point of view. I haven't looked at alliance races that much cos I don't play alliance

[flat kelp]

i didnt say but i'm ally :3

[fleet galleon]

DIE ALLIANCE SCUM

I mean, sorry I'm not aware of the alliance racials so can't say which is best

[tiny sphinx]

void elf racial is imba, it'll get nerfed, I guarantee it

[fleet galleon]

Yeah, but it has 1ppm and lasts 12 sec. Not thaaaaaaat big imo

I think the teleport ability and no spell cast pushback are pretty sweet

[delicate urchin]

35ivl > 2t20 on aoe? just cant imagine how strong 80 rage per 1 minute

[fleet galleon]

Probably ilvl at this point. The 2pc T20 isn't great on it's own but it becomes good with T20 4pc is what I've gathered from people with more experience.

[tribal shale]

so which neck do i use

i really cant see crit being useful

[fleet galleon]

955. 1k stam is pretty solid

I have the same neck (right down to normal titanforged to 955) and I'm desperate to replace it with the one from Varimathras. Would definitely take 945 over this 955

[tribal shale]

what about this?

ignore the sephuz

i'm getting tons of crit heavy gear

[fleet galleon]

935 on this one, mostly for the socket

[tribal shale]

k

[fleet galleon]

And I feel you on that. Got 980 legs from cache, crit heavy

Definition of mixed emotions right there

[tribal shale]

and i don't even think i'll every use this

does arms need crit?

never played

[fleet galleon]

No idea, I don't play arms. Don't think they care for crit though but you'd best ask in that channel

[tribal shale]

so

is versa or mastery better for higher dps output?

[fleet galleon]

They're roughly equal is my understanding. Would have to hit up someone more experienced than me for that one. I'm just busy trying to survive lol

Haste is best stat for dps I can tell you that much

[sick sentinel]

hey, was wondering if someone could explain this as i can't find it on the site: on wowhead i can choose the darkmoon deck: immortality as ilvl 1000, is this a thing now? if yes do i just upgrade a 850 10 times with normal obliterum or does it have to be primal? and is it worth it? haven't been playing since just before then end of ToS

[fleet galleon]

No, it only goes to 900

[sick sentinel]

ah okay

[fleet galleon]

Probably just lets you view what would happen if it went to 1000

[sick sentinel]

ahh, could be

thanks ^_^

[fleet galleon]

Yep yep

[noble solar]

was [Rugged Tenacity] simmed?

is it a faction change worthy racial for tanks?

[sick sentinel]

Calculate it. It's 18k dmg per hit less approximately

Not too rad imho

[distant pier]

Having difficulties explaining to someone why haste is more important than mastery to a degree. He finds it to be somewhat useless and stacks mastery instead.thoughts?

[tiny sphinx]

shield block uptime

[slate obsidian]

rage generated

[tiny sphinx]

shields slams during battlecry, etc. etc.

[stark sage]

that and mastery is really only a mitigation versus physical damage

[distant pier]

He is also pulling less dmg at 400k while I hit 850k. He's doing 450k hps I'm at 950k. I'm trying to help him but he is arguing with facts

[stark sage]

your build is shit nevermind being double the tank that i am XD

[tribal shale]

more haste = more rage = more survivability and damage

[distant pier]

That's where my stance is but he called me a sheep for looking at the statistics and how people are building for success in mythic prog

[tribal shale]

when then there's nothing to argue

what fact is he arguing if the fact is that you are basically twice as good as him?

[stark sage]

yeah he is just wrong

plus people progressing at cutting edge mythic are stacking mastery anyways

[distant pier]

Yeah but that is after hitting specific haste break points at high gear

[stark sage]

not really

[green isle]

what are the haste breakpoints

[stark sage]

the point of stacking mastery is to reach 100%

so you can ignore certain mechanics

pretty much with desregard to haste

but i dont recommend it unless you know what you are doing

[distant pier]

Which bosses work with that??

[stark sage]

argus and vari

[green isle]

this is literally the first time i've heard haste breakpoints mentioned in regards to masteyr stacking

so i'm wondering where you pulled it from

[distant pier]

And like 970 gear to get that level of stats?

[stark sage]

eh more like double trinkets, and t19 2pc so you only need to reach 90%

[tiny sphinx]

25% and 50% haste for 5 and 6 shieldslams during battlecry with t21 2 set respectively

[distant pier]

^

[stark sage]

you still dont have to start stacking mastery after reaching 25%

[tiny sphinx]

but generally speaking there is no such thing as too much haste

30-33% feels like a nice sweet spot for uptime for me, would prefer more but... ilvl and stuff

[stark sage]

the only point to be stacking mastery is in attempt to reach the block cap for mythic progression, and by the time any normal raider is progressing that far, people will be geared enough that it isnt necesary

[distant pier]

But I want 117% haste for uptime for sb

Jk

[crude pond]

960 Juggernaut clock + 930 titanic chest
vs
930 titanic clock + 960 Juggernaut chest

which one is better??

[stark sage]

well chest has more stat budget

[crude pond]

the former is higher haste, the latter higher stamina

[prisma crane]

you'd want 960 chest

more str

[stark sage]

STR is all you really care about

[prisma crane]

and fwiw, more armor too

[crude pond]

thanks! then I see in most time the iLevel is the most noticable stat.

[prisma crane]

yea, in that example though, ilvl was roughly even, but you gained ilvl in the higher budget piece

but glad to help 😄

[junior ivy]

last night managed to kill every boss up to and including vari on heroic, AND 3 bosses on normal. in one raid.

one shotted basiclaly everyone

even kingaroth

😄

[prisma crane]

nice!

[prisma crane]

we actuallly almost one shot kin'garoth as well

[junior ivy]

why are some wqs pink now?!

what does the pink mean?!

[prisma crane]

no idea

[junior ivy]

omg 😦 i dont liek it

ill ask wow discord

[prisma crane]

maybe it's an addon

[junior ivy]

maybe but like it wasnt like this last night

i hate discords that dont letr you copy/paste images

[prisma crane]

so like

[junior ivy]

i never knew how rare it was for discords to let you od that nad now im super thankful this one does

[prisma crane]

that top dmg there is the lightforged draenei racial

[junior ivy]

whaaat

that see,s unfair lol

seems

[prisma crane]

im a little confused atm

[junior ivy]

i cant concentrate on anyhting tiul i find out why half my quests are pink instead of yellow lol

[timid jay]

@prisma crane whats the damage per hit?

[sick sentinel]

haha I just did garothi hc and the rl said he would kick everyone who tiped by stuped fuck then he dies 2 times in a row from fel bombardment and blames it on me becasue im not taunting and that he cant move if he have aggro or something when he is standing still with the debuf xdd

[prisma crane]

I'm not sure, that was a screenshot from a friend's friend

but it looks like that was the mobs in Kara

it said backup singer, so probably the monster AOE in the seats

it was one cast

so hmm

how many mobs? 30? 50?

even if 50 it's 2m per hit...

[timid jay]

Closer to 30 if its only the ones below the boss

[prisma crane]

then 3.3m

jesus

[timid jay]

The nightborne one hits for fuck all with 3min cd

FeelsBadMan

[prisma crane]

inc massive nerf

well the human one...uh... doesnt exist

so there's that

[timid jay]

Idk what prot paladin mastery does, but I assume they have some extra holy damage done

in artifact or somewhere

[prisma crane]

yea i figured the same

[timid jay]

but still, thats fucked up

[prisma crane]

but that race is practically built for pally

so....

[junior ivy]

i hate that some races are worse than others. like. race should be the one thing you ge tto choose just based on aesthetics

rather than min/maxing

just let us pick the race we think looks coolest !@!

[prisma crane]

the only thing i hate about it cat is that

[timid jay]

Velf racial is also kinda busted

[prisma crane]

alliance are forever fucked in the raiding scene

[timid jay]

doesnt show as much but a 5% damage increase during CD's is super big

[prisma crane]

agreed, but

you think it's enough to make players stay or move to alliance? because i doubt it

[timid jay]

Good movement ability ☑
OP damage ☑

[prisma crane]

i dont have massive faction pride or w/e, but it's really bad when like 95% of top 100 guilds are horde

[timid jay]

Belf silence getting nerfed in BFA ☑

[prisma crane]

"nerfed"

adds 1 min to CD

hardly a nerf

more a nerf in pvp, still OP AF for M+

[ionic roost]

All the "nerf" means is bring more of them

[timid jay]

Fair, I can still see alliance being a lot more attractive when it comes to pve racials

[prisma crane]

it should only silence their primary target

[junior ivy]

it does suck when most top guilds are horde

😦

[ionic roost]

nah, Highmountain Tauren is nutty for progression

[prisma crane]

top guilds have been horde since forever because they used to have the only racials that do dmg

and it was a massive gap

[timid jay]

How is Highmountain tauren nutty for progressing?

[ionic roost]

2 versa passives

[prisma crane]

for maybe a tank

[junior ivy]

i just wanna be as successful as a blood elf or lightforged dranaei even though im a gnome

[timid jay]

Yeah, its good for a tank but thats about it

[prisma crane]

but tanks dont win fights on progression'

[timid jay]

the flat damage reduction might as well be forgotten

[ionic roost]

remember that time you were overkilled by 190k? yea yo didnt die as high mountain

[timid jay]

Its only the 1% versa thats relevant

[prisma crane]

remember that time you wiped to a boss under 2%?

cuz that happens a lot more than overkill by 190k

[timid jay]

Remember that time that DPS died to mechanics that require them to move?

Velves got thjat covered if they arent completely braindead

[prisma crane]

idk, Velf and LFD both sound pretty solid atm

[ionic roost]

you guys must kill bosses when overgeared, got it.

[junior ivy]

last night we wiped on vari at 0.5% cause some dps spread a disease, only boss we wiped onj all night

[prisma crane]

but like i doubt it's enough to move ppl to alli

[timid jay]

Its not like tank deaths is the biggest reason for not being able to progress

[prisma crane]

^ that's the point

there's a reason we're bottom of gear totem pole

maybe that will change in BfA, but as it stands, a buff to tanks isnt as strong as a buff to your dps

particularly in cutting edge progression

[junior ivy]

feels good to finally be able to use my AP on prot again now that i finsihed fury NLC

[prisma crane]

nice

[junior ivy]

last night my power went out like 2 mins after raid ended lol. kept thinking it was gonna go out during raid

got so lucky

[tawny lotus]

is it possible to spell reflect the missiles on shade of medivh in upper kara to give him the debuff?

[prisma crane]

not only possible

but recommended

[junior ivy]

you can reflect but does he get the debuff?

[prisma crane]

use arats

[junior ivy]

i didnt know SR worked that way

[prisma crane]

and you can get his buff up to 3 stacks

on him

so he takes 150% extra arcane dmg

[junior ivy]

oh wow

[prisma crane]

it doesnt always work that way

but on that fight it does

[junior ivy]

i dont even always sr it

i gotta make sure i do

[prisma crane]

that's a mistake

[junior ivy]

ive now iupgraded every warrior leggo to 1000 !! yay

[prisma crane]

arcane/boomkin/DH all benefit from it

[bright mortar]

legs are top tier on this boss

[prisma crane]

and, it's a ton of dmg on the boss

in a 21 fort wk the 3rd set of missiles were hitting for 6m per missile

he melts

[bright mortar]

didn't we see a lot of prot warriors during mdi on UK ?

[prisma crane]

if dmg meters picked up SR we'd prob almost always top that fight

[junior ivy]

ive got shadowmourne, i did chromie scenario, ive upograded everry legendary. im running out of stuff to do

[tawny lotus]

im new to tanking on prot warr and my last warr legendary is akarat so still waiting on it lol

[prisma crane]

and yea, almost the only time we'd see prot warr were in UK

[junior ivy]

krotos do wod achievements sooon lol

[tawny lotus]

any other bosses where i can abuse SR?

[prisma crane]

a fe

few*

but none quite like him

first boss in maw

and yea @junior ivy at some point lol, but atm gonna start a void elf priest for fun

[tawny lotus]

dark slash?

[prisma crane]

yea

3rd boss in CoEN

dont have to get in the shield

and it hits him HARD

[junior ivy]

everyones gonna be leveling new races but me

[prisma crane]

31m is the most i've seen

should try them

once you get the cash for it

um, NL the sunder armor from second boss

and the poison dot from 3rd boss

and the knockback on last boss

[dusky sedge]

sorry to intrude, but does someone have a log of the warrior tank who solo tanked aggramar?

[prisma crane]

which difficulty?

heroic it wouldnt be that bad

[dusky sedge]

idk, saw someone here talk about it

wanted to see for myself

[prisma crane]

i think it was just mentioned as doable

since NF is OP for the second foe breaker

[sick sentinel]

how is it doable

[prisma crane]

but you'd probably want HR if you're going to do that stupid cheese, but probably dont need it either

[timid jay]

If you dont count the adds in intermission it shoudlnt be any big issue at all tbh

[prisma crane]

yea that's true, and just have a dps tank it and they blow that one up first

i should take back the HR thing too

since

you can recharge during the technique and intermissions

[unborn island]

Have done it on normal (but didn't kill),aside from the adds blowing up the raid,the damage was easily manageable.

[steel mauve]

I think its been done on mythic, but your healers need to be super badass, i know its been done on heroic

[prisma crane]

idk how to do M Aggramar without BDK easily, much less as a solo tank

i seriously doubt M was soloed

[primal crypt]

@KrotosTheTank#0075 I believe in you

[prisma crane]

thanks bossman, but i dont, hah

[prisma crane]

T'Paartos!

[arctic sedge]

Lol is he cool?

[cinder monolith]

is nightmare egg shell any good?

[timid jay]

decent for damage if you get a high ilvl one

[cinder monolith]

between 960 eggshell or 925 with socket chrono

[timid jay]

eggshell

[cinder monolith]

cool ty

[sick sentinel]

@dusky sedge i did it

[dusky sedge]

could you link a log?

[sick sentinel]

the first time i did it it wasnt "traditional" solo. the other cotank stood on me but never taunted. we both grabbed seperate adds

[shell crypt]

why are warrior m+ score that low? does no good player commit to high keys on tank war or what?

[sick sentinel]

last night cotank died and i tanked agg for like half the fight till the end with no one standing on me

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wdCjfVTKhRWX3LPH#fight=4 heres the last night part

i plan to do afully solo tank next time around

[pastel pebble]

soul of the battlelord or thundergods vigor for optimal DPS in M+?

[dusky sedge]

a super

[prisma crane]

TGV, no contest @pastel pebble

[sick sentinel]

its ez

just keep shield block up

demo shout first foe breaker

[prisma crane]

@shell crypt there are a few that do, but we're deficient relative other tanks

[sick sentinel]

nelt fury 2nd foebreaker

[timber abyss]

Soul Prob wins on bosses that don't spawn adds and that's about it

[prisma crane]

soul is a waste

[timber abyss]

Ye, I'd take Kaku if i was going ST

[prisma crane]

TGV is a 1k item with STR, ring isnt, plus with T21 you arent weaving anyways

not effectively

[timber abyss]

I'm not disagreeing, T21 2pc does make Soul much weaker

[pastel pebble]

ive still been weaving since soul was only good prot legendary, how do you use IP and vengeance together in M+ now then? just look at incoming damage and cut back on vengeance when your health starts to drop low?

[west kayak]

If you have T21 you dont use Soul at all, at least I dont. The only reason why its in my bags is for my Fury spec.

[unborn island]

955 eggshell vs 945 diimas for dps....what you reckon? I'm inclined towards diimas for m+/multi target,eggshell for St

[sick sentinel]

how fast do my armory get updated

[fresh dragon]

yoooooooo guys!!!

fast question: MOUNTAIN TAUREN is better than NORMAL TAUREN as tank??

[primal crypt]

@fresh dragon play whatever race you like

[fresh dragon]

i wanna play the best performing

even if 0.1%

[primal crypt]

What sort of content?

[prisma crane]

for a tank, yes, it's looking like HM is better than base tauren

[compact geyser]

Goblin is subjectively the best. Sweet sweet rocket jump.

[stark sage]

i like NE for when i inevitably rip threat so i can shadowmeld

[compact geyser]

Also DODGE

[fresh dragon]

for MYTHIC raid

with 10M hp we get 180k damage reduction on everything

dot - hit - aoe

per hit

[wraith grove]

hello, having the 2 bonuses of the t21, which legendary have to carry? and talent lvl 90?

[compact geyser]

[timid jay]

ITs not 180k

Its closer to 3k if youre good geared

[primal crypt]

180k wow

[prisma crane]

see abve

[timid jay]

(unless wowhead is wrong)

[primal crypt]

Where did that number come from?

[timid jay]

Reduces damage taken by (Stamina * 0.0003 * 60).

is the formula

For me at ~968 equipped its 2.7k

[stark sage]

its per instance of damage right

[timid jay]

Yes, its a flat DR per hit

So if a boss hits you for 2M, it'll do 2M-2.7k if I was highmountain

[stark sage]

i wonder if it has strange interactions with things that have a ton of tics over a short time

[timid jay]

Completely negligble

Its better for m+, but is so small anyway

The big bonus is from the 1% versa

[stark sage]

yeah that is nice

wonder how the DR will scale when the squish happens

[timid jay]

Relative strength should be the same

Unless they change stamina scaling which I highly doubt

[stark sage]

they might change mob's damage scaling

since almost every damage ability is getting the scaling tuned down

[wraith grove]

hello, having the 2 bonuses of the t21, which legendary have to carry? and talent lvl 90?

[prisma crane]

90 is the BV one right?

[timid jay]

Gloves+bracers for survivability and BV

[prisma crane]

gloves and either bracers or belt

[wraith grove]

and talent of lvl 90 ??

ok

[timid jay]

Oh god finaly

Apoc drive

[prisma crane]

woot

base 960?

[timid jay]

yeah

Bonus rolled it

[prisma crane]

some day i'll get a Diima

[timid jay]

Still not a single one that has dropped

[prisma crane]

i coined Kin'garoth

got a 980 drop

guess which item

[timid jay]

Ring?

[prisma crane]

^

we're goin full crit boys

got a 980 crit > vers chest from my M+ cache too

[fresh dragon]

Rugged Tenacity - Reduces damage taken by 1.8% of stamina.

so...

if i have 10M

1.8% is 180k

http://www.wowdb.com/spells/255659-rugged-tenacity

@timid jay no?

[timid jay]

Thats not stamina

thats health

Big difference

at 968 equipped I have 154,591 stamina

[stark sage]

180k DR would be disgusting

[fresh dragon]

mmmmm so

its 3k

pretty shitty

😐

[prisma crane]

well it'll likely be better in BfA

i doubt stam will still be 60hp per point

but it wont be broken, it's just a racial

[fresh dragon]

dunno but as now its way more better

[sullen jungle]

Most ppl go HMT for the 1% stam tho right

[fresh dragon]

Endurance of tauren

[prisma crane]

1% vers

[timid jay]

1% versa

[sullen jungle]

Yeah meant the Vers:PP xD

woops

[fresh dragon]

1283 HP is better (like a flask)

of normal tauren

[sullen jungle]

Meh i find the HP for normal taurens useless tbh

[stark sage]

i heard the verse bonus is bugged on live atm

[sullen jungle]

Elaborate Keladan 😮

[stark sage]

gives 1% of your verse instead of an additional 1% verse

[timid jay]

it gives 60 rating now afaik

It'll be fixed soon enough though

[jaunty canopy]

im not too impressed with the highmountain racials honestly

[prisma crane]

good

horde dont need more reasons to be horde lol

they already win racial games

maybe now we can be closer, but i still doubt it

[sullen jungle]

well atm Lightforged Draenei is recking with their racials right? atleast prot palas.

[prisma crane]

just prot pally afaik

because of their artifact

wouldnt surprise me if they nerf it just for them for now

[jaunty canopy]

I mean humans late game are usually pretty good arent they?

they scale with gear

[stark sage]

only secondaries right?

[jaunty canopy]

yeah. granted its class based

I know shadow priests like it for getting 16k haste xD

[compact geyser]

Crit is parry right?

[timid jay]

yeah

[prisma crane]

super worth

that's why im going all crit

i think i can break 40% crit

this game wants me to anyways

that said, i bet for pure AoE it wouldnt be that bad

[compact geyser]

I mean, ravager is pretty good I hear

[prisma crane]

yea, but then wear arms helm

extra BiS

[kind glen]

It really does increase overall damage when you use the helm with Ravager. For whatever reason I doubted it'd work lol

[prisma crane]

yea, it works, and movement speed 👌

[final mist]

Krotos

You make me sick

[prisma crane]

lol

all i ever get is fucking crit heavy gear

[final mist]

Farm more then

[prisma crane]

coin and M+ cache

i have plenty of non-crit gear

but my bigger forges, all crit

wtf

that or

if i get another pair of gloves from weekly

i might kill someone

[fleet galleon]

I got 980 legs from cache. Crit heavy

[prisma crane]

yea same, but chest piece

and 980 kingaroth ring

ripperino

i just need a 980 tier chest like... COSMO

[fleet galleon]

It was a massive item level upgrade over my scrub 935's so had to take it

[prisma crane]

yea neither of mine were quite worth it, but we'll see

maybe the 980 ring

[fleet galleon]

Sad thing is, I don't think I can replace them anymore.

[prisma crane]

i've kept both, gonna go HAM in crit

to make Sal happy

[fleet galleon]

Maaaaaybe I'll get lucky from the cache but it's unlikely the Argus legs will titanforge that high. It's also unlikely I'll get those legs since prot is my offspec

[prisma crane]

i lost the 975 legs from heroic argus to someone who doesnt raid a lot iwth us 😦

[fleet galleon]

RIP

Gquit on the spot

[prisma crane]

eh

[compact geyser]

You know what actually sucks? Never getting Bastion Relics or having them not NLC

[fleet galleon]

I was kidding btw

[prisma crane]

the fucker (LC dude) saw my big T20 legs and thought i wouldnt want them, like bro, if i had those legs i'd drop T20 yesterday

[fleet galleon]

I try not to let gear get in the way of raiding

[compact geyser]

I've had to explain why I use T20 sometimes and why not. I've got pretty understanding officers.

[fleet galleon]

Lost a 945 or whatever cap was in ToS Battle Cry relic to a hunter

But on the other hand, I always get trinket priority cos they see my 875 CoF and are like wtf, give this guy a fucking trinket

[coarse oracle]

Hey em, quick question: Diima or Conviction as a trinket?

[prisma crane]

both are solid

[fleet galleon]

Both?

[prisma crane]

diima more so for surv

but at this point conviction has so much ilvl that it's not bad either