Chargebuff DK

[lusty steppe]

Plucky actually isn’t bad in post patch stats right now. Probably because a lot of Reno decks due to Marim and even locks

That probably goes back down once more go back to rogue

[quick gazelle]

trying thalnos over my x1 panner now btw

[heavy junco]

I did play loot hoarder for a little bit. I like this idea, good catch.

Miracle beats chargebuff early and ticking zilliax just resets them enough. Really key i think.

[quick gazelle]

@lusty steppe @proven topaz @heavy junco @grave jay. gonna be listing you all in the guide. do any of you have any kind of social media presence you'd like me to link to (twitter, reddit handle, etc)? if not specified otherwise i'll just use your disc names.

worldeight too ofc, just not tagged because i already know his twitter 😛

[lusty steppe]

just use my discord name

thanks for writing up the guide!

[quick gazelle]

no worries! i genuinely really enjoy it

years ago, it was competitivehs guides like the ones i write which helped me find some decks i truly adored, and these were kinda responsible for me realising how possible it really was to try and go off-meta and find hidden gems

so i like paying that forward

[lusty steppe]

Also Pocket is rouleeting with handbuff in the lineup. only 6 decks in the lineup so more games happen

I just hope we get a VS report and soulcage/saloon make it in

cause i have a hard time figuring out the last few cards

[proven topaz]

Yo that's sweet! My twitter handle is @proven topaz 😉

[heavy junco]

No twitter nor reddit, just discord

[lusty steppe]

pocket keeps getting bad matchups or lucky rogues as opponent

like just played a paladin

idk if hell kepe the deck for his next stream

[heavy junco]

thatd be fun, a spinoff deck focused on deathrattles. i think wowhobbs does something like that and really enjoys it. let me see if i can find the last screenshot, he doesnt post just has vods.

https://www.twitch.tv/wowhobbs/videos?filter=archives&sort=time

last time he played standard just looking at the thumbnail autoscroll was like 25 days ago and it was something like this

it can be funny/fun, let me think of a list based on the stuff i have that wont be too awful while also taking some of the fun elements from this list.

and the other ideas from above

oh yeah it has to include that terrible location ofc

nm it feels a bit too ambitious at the moment, maybe later

[grave jay]

Scales96 bro. Just tag me when you finished the guide, I am curious.

https://starfox.fandom.com/wiki/General_Scales

But call me General.

@quick gazelle on what website will you write the guide?

[quick gazelle]

i usually just post to r/competitivehs

but that doesnt have much reach

but i dont really know where else to post it other than twitter

maybe the regular subreddit is okay with it

i'll ask

[lusty steppe]

btw, if you want to look at the winrate of the archtype with diff cards(like saloon/soulcage) you can look at the standard deck tab on hsguru, and include those cards. then click VS CLASS to see overall winrates

[quick gazelle]

ooh

can you post a screenshot?

curious to see what it says

[lusty steppe]

I could later tonight when I'm on desktop, basically warrior/priest MU is much better with t his list

like 60%

priest is really bad for the non OTK list

im going to play the deck that can beat Reno priest

[quick gazelle]

yeah i bet, its often annoying even for this version but its at least winnable

[lusty steppe]

https://www.hsguru.com/decks?format=2&period=patch_29.6.0&player_class=DEATHKNIGHT&player_deck_archetype[]=Handbuff+DK&player_deck_includes[]=101016&player_deck_includes[]=101871&rank=diamond_to_legend

thats otk

https://www.hsguru.com/decks?format=2&period=patch_29.6.0&player_deck_archetype[]=Handbuff+DK&player_deck_excludes[]=101871&rank=diamond_to_legend

thats non otk

just click VS Class

to see a table

[lusty steppe]

and go back to the earlier patch and do it too

[quick gazelle]

high wr v DH and other DKs makes a ton of sense to me

druid positive feels right

hunter slightly negative same

[lusty steppe]

so basically, OTK better vs Reno but worse vs aggro. non otk better into aggro but worse into Renos

[quick gazelle]

yeah i absolutely wreck mages

and lmao i wish i had a 39% wr v paladins. inflated by reno i bet

[lusty steppe]

yeah lol

[quick gazelle]

surprised warlock is so low

[lusty steppe]

its a lower sample size

if you go back a patch, Warlock is more 50%

for me its basically does the warlock have Pop'gar/crescendo

or do they have encroaching on 3 into conductor on 4

if they dont have either early, I usually win

[quick gazelle]

ive started being very frivolous with early handbuffs

just to contest as well as possible early

and esp with new zilliax its often enough

[lusty steppe]

https://www.hsguru.com/decks?format=2&period=patch_29.4.2&player_class=DEATHKNIGHT&player_deck_archetype[]=Handbuff+DK&player_deck_includes[]=101016&player_deck_includes[]=101871&rank=diamond_to_legend

this is from earlier patch

[heavy junco]

yeah i like jamming handbuff whenever theres nothing else to spend mana on

[quick gazelle]

ive traditionally been far more conservative with them

but ive been trying to unlearn that in some matchups

and use both soulcage and brewmaster more for tempo

[heavy junco]

those spellstones i get 1 and sometimes am surprised if it hits 2

[lusty steppe]

I feel like we are just mega unfavored into handbuff paladin, then slightly unfavored into warlock. rogue I think depends on where your rank at. good high legend rogues feels a little unfavored

the rest feel favored.

o nature shaman/owl druid combo can be tough too

but they are so rare

[heavy junco]

a quillboar-soulcage after a hound mop-up just wrecks paladin if you cant otk them that turn. but idk id have to do more tests. like what would one cut, and how much would it wreck the other matchups

and was my quillboar experiences into paladin handbuff a fluke

could be a fluke honestly

[quick gazelle]

id cut my panner to try it

[heavy junco]

you cant combo as early and as much, but you dont need to do a brewmaster turn. it doesnt otk, but if there's a taunted up board it can solve the board first, and then the board based opponent has nothing

[heavy junco]

what's your current list rn

[quick gazelle]

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 6800
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# 🟦 2x (2) Blood Tap
# 🟨 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13086472

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13086472

[quick gazelle]

thalnos in over gold panner. played about 6-8 games with the sub and didnt notice much difference honestly

[heavy junco]

alright so that but quillboard ill test, thanks

[heavy junco]

okay my new favorite trick against handbuff paladin is reska-yodeler-brewmaster the yodeler

that must have sucked for them

[lusty steppe]

yeah reska is really needed to beat paladin

[heavy junco]

okay, that's why the plucky

[lusty steppe]

tbh, if you did face a lot of paladins could try freeze weapon

I just never faced enough to test it

[quick gazelle]

i very briefly tried 1x runes of darkness

got vipered almost immediately and soured on it

[heavy junco]

i dont care what the stats ever say, i love toy snatching geist. It gives me a discover which is the funnest gameplay mechanic in hearthstone in my opinion, and it like gives me something to do on a turn I dont want to do anything necs.

[quick gazelle]

it looks fine in the stats i think

and deserves it, its so good

[lusty steppe]

I sctually wish we had defrost still

I would def run it

Frozen over I just can’t get over giving my opponent two cards

[quick gazelle]

[[Defrost]]

[fickle helm]

Defrost (Other potential matches)

Defrost (View card and tokens)

[quick gazelle]

yeah why the shit isnt this core?

[quick gazelle]

and rightly so lmao

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 6920
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 1x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13089063

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13089063

[lusty steppe]

running with this for now

just trying without bloodtaps

[heavy junco]

not convinced quilboar is good. besides, geist can discover whatever at discounted rates

[heavy junco]

I love this card's flavor

he just loves painting

[lusty steppe]

His stats shot up a bunch post patch because people went back to Reno decks due to the Marin card

Reno and excavate rainbow dk

So yodeler reska just wins games whereas vs drilly rogue it wasn’t as good

[quick gazelle]

guess today we find out if soulcage gets a mention in the report

[grave jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjCo_gmZJ5E

[lusty steppe]

hmm the website isn't updated with new charts, are we getting a report today?

or do the new charts no longer com eout early

Looks like at legend on d0nkey now handbuff with saloon/soulcage is at 56.1% with 337 games at Legend. Excluding saloon its at 49.5% in 572 games

I dont exclude soulcage for the 2nd since some non otk lists run 1-2 soulcage too

Rank Archetype Win Percent Sample
D-L OTK 57.8 694
D-L Non-OTK 52.4 2317
L OTK 56.1 337
L Non-OTK 49.5 572
10K OTK 54.7 276
10k Non-OTK 51.5 377

this is all using new patch. top 1k sample is too small so requires going back a patch so didn't include.

So OTK is def better, I think you lose some percent into aggro/paladin but you gain so much vs Reno that its worth the trade off

Also not sure if we get a report today since patch was out this week on Monday. VS usually I think stops data recording on Tuesday, so that doesn't give a lot of time

[green karma]

Ok so I looked at stats again this morning. There are some red herrings (nesting golem, Helya) but generally the list here is close to the best in terms of numbers

Just make sure you don’t skip any of the top end clearing cards right now

Primus, unkilliax, yogg

[proven topaz]

unkilliax > perfect ticking?

[green karma]

Hard to say with zil, but generally it looks much better

If the opponent goes wide hound is usually so much better then ticking anyway

And unkilliax can just solo a game

[quick gazelle]

So primus looks good in stats?

I haven't been running one for a while

[green karma]

Yeah anything that can remove a large taunt

Specifically for unkilliax but removing other titans is very useful

[lusty steppe]

what would you cut for it

I just find it hard to figure out the cuts for unkilliax/primus

ive liked ticking so far esp vs warlocks conductor

Paintfin has looked better in stats post patch. I think because Marim has gotten more people playing lategame decks

Plus stealing the legendary summon stuff

[green karma]

Salesman looks very sus

Paint fin looks fine

The challenge with paint is that we already have some things we want to do on three

If we paint any later and pull hound, we’re not too happy if it missed all the buffs

[lusty steppe]

yeah the 3 spot is so crowded

the 1/2 curve is also pretty weak

another downside of salesman, is when Geist gives us the panda as an option it messes with the DR pool

since I think we happy with draw or puppet

part of me wonders about cutting salesman/panners for x2 death growl and x2 loot hoarders

or x2 death growl 1 hoarder/1 thalnos

another option is nostalgic gnomes?

marin seems decent in a low sample size

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 8440
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 1x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13116740

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13116740

[lusty steppe]

maybe ill try marin

he seems to be lowkey really good in decks. hybrid druid being another spot

if we cut salesman though, i wonder if we go to magatha for draw. otherwise somewhat light on draw

and if we run magatha, probably need to cut down to 6 spells or less

actually magatha with marin doenst work well

[green karma]

Mag with Marin is fine

We usually are playing mag first

Mag is always one of the strongest cards in any hand buff deck

Giving away spell stone or mining is whatever at that point in the game

Giving away soul cage is painful

But maybe it’s better tucked away in ETC anyway - how often do we need cage off the top

And cage isn’t relevant in every game

Etc is threads / cage / ???

[lusty steppe]

That’s what I did when I tried Magatha

Put one soulcage in etc

I was putting like fistful as the last card

[heavy junco]

I have blood tap instead of panner and another plucky as magatha. Im a sucker for plucky. I have no idea if this is optimal as it just trounces my matches at D1-4.

That is to say, this is a legend deck, not a diamond deck. It's so goated with the sauce.

Yeah marin is nice, been using him. He just draws 3 0 cost cards which can get the games rolling if they stall.

[lusty steppe]

@green karma what's your opinion of cutting bloodtap like I did in the list above

I ve also been messing around in casual just running soulcage/saloon in regular rainbow DK

wanted to get saloon working in excavate but too many cards

soulcage/saloon/spellstone/hounds*

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Rainbow DK
# Cost: 12560
# Format: Standard
# 🟨 1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 1x (1) Runes of Darkness
# 🟦 2x (2) Down with the Ship
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# 🟦 2x (2) Threads of Despair
# ⬜ 2x (3) Acolyte of Death
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# 🟦 2x (3) Crop Rotation
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# 🟨 1x (4) Helya
# 🟨 1x (4) Maw and Paw
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) The Primus
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (10) Climactic Necrotic Explosion
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13117812

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13117812

[green karma]

Why plague cards?

[lusty steppe]

I figured chip damage and they just are in the normal list

Can be cuttable though

[green karma]

I feel like that’s a different deck

[lusty steppe]

Yeah true

[green karma]

It’s cool

But different then hand buff

Very close to the rainbow excavate out there

[lusty steppe]

It basically just stemmed from me looking at acolyte of death for draw and trying to fit her in a deck with brews

But that’s basically 4x 3 mana cards you are adding

[green karma]

I feel like your ghoul is capped at 9/9 here

Unless I’m missing something

[lusty steppe]

Yeah the max damage is 9 + 11 + 11

But you also have ten mana spell and that was also why I left plague in to chip at armor

[green karma]

Maybe we should walk this backwards

Do we want a 13/13 ghoul we can cage

For otk potential

And then do we build around that

Puppet + mini + yodel gives us a 11/11 (start with a 3/3)

Add archer and that’s the last +2, but another piece we have to hold in addition

Let’s assume that we start at some point with saloon and ghoul, and get puppet and mini along the way

This is kind of the zarimi / scales / clay matriarch

That’s a 7/7 ghoul, so only 18 from hand

Which is still a lot

That’s bigger then 99% of leeroys

So the idea is - can we get in 12 chip along the way

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 8340
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 1x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# 🟨 1x (4) E.T.C., Band Manager
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 1x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13118069

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13118069

[lusty steppe]

might try this

ETC is Soulcage/threads/fistful

so far in casual its felt good

but thats casual

nice not having salesmen mess up Geist-> Panda hits

I still prefer ticking Zill, feels good to drop with like swarmguards

well lost to Reno o druid

[green karma]

Reno Druid low key very good right now with marin

List looks good but I’d swap Marin for primus

[lusty steppe]

yeah they got a 0 mana reno

[quick gazelle]

id have guessed it'd be a very good card to have in mull in many of our worst matchups, which would depress the stats a bit

[green karma]

It looks like mull bait keep

It doesn’t progress the decks game plan

[lusty steppe]

yeah and then its too slow to be drawn WR

the VS list doesn't run salesmen I believe

[quick gazelle]

hmm

my instincts rebel at the thought of having no 1-drops

but i can see it

[lusty steppe]

same

its really hard for me to have no playable 1 drop

[quick gazelle]

like if ever there was a deck that could get away with it

its the one that has hollow hound and buffs

honestly that opens the list up quite a lot

this is me atm

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 6800
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# 🟦 2x (2) Blood Tap
# 🟨 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13086472

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13086472

[quick gazelle]

could go -2 salesman +2 panner?

or panner + primus

could try a death growl

ok that list, -1x thalnos -2x salesman, +1x primus, +1x death growl, 1x panner. that sounds interesting to try

[lusty steppe]

ya let me know how it goes

im trying a Magatha list

that cuts blood taps for x2spellstones(less strong if magatha gives away)

death growl def interesting

could even keep thalnos

[quick gazelle]

oh yeah good point, thalnos is better than panner in a growl build

[quick gazelle]

unlikely to get many games in tonight

got a friend visiting over the weekend

might get some in though

[lusty steppe]

But yeah, one other aspect I mentioned of cutting salesman is it makes the panda hit off Geist better

since you either draw or puppet

[quick gazelle]

its quite rare i get that but it has happened

[lusty steppe]

or i guess the 1/1s

so nvm

ive never hit it off mining causalties

so doesnt really matter

[lusty steppe]

That bellhop card looks interesting but the 3 mana slot is already rough

[quick gazelle]

and we dont run any 5+ cost spells

[green karma]

… yet

[quick gazelle]

yeah, esp with access to 2 class sets im sure a lot of classes that it doesnt yet look good for could end up running it

[lusty steppe]

the 4 drop draw though could even be tempting if we don't get any other draw cards lol

cause our 4 spot rather light as is

you could play it on 4, Pupper on 5, Yodeler/Mini + draw 2 on 6

[quick gazelle]

actually true

my two most common plays on 4 are coining out a puppeteer or playing what i discovered from geist on 3

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 6920
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Death Growl
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟨 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# ⬜ 1x (2) Loot Hoarder
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13129278

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13129278

[lusty steppe]

thinking about trying this

wait what

that isnt the list

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 6920
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Death Growl
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟨 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos
# ⬜ 1x (2) Loot Hoarder
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13129278

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13129278

[lusty steppe]

okay idk why it showing loot hoarder, its a 1x plucky

[lusty steppe]

the new druid list can be a bit rough if they Doomkin you

slows down getting puppet down

[lusty steppe]

yeah doomkins are really rough for handbuff. I just destroyed a handbuff with them

[proven topaz]

What Druid list are you playing

I love the list sunq posted

Just can’t beat warriors with it somehow 🥲

[lusty steppe]

The main list but I cut Dorian and one location for Eonar/yogg

[green karma]

Yeah eonar is really strong when Druid can ramp so hard

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### Druid
# Cost: 7760
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (0) Innervate
# ⬜ 2x (1) Giftwrapped Whelp
# ⬜ 1x (1) Magical Dollhouse
# 🟦 2x (1) Malfurion's Gift
# ⬜ 2x (2) Bottomless Toy Chest
# 🟦 2x (2) Splish-Splash Whelp
# ⬜ 2x (3) Swipe
# ⬜ 2x (3) Take to the Skies
# ⬜ 2x (3) Trogg Gemtosser
# 🟦 2x (4) Chia Drake
# 🟦 2x (4) Desert Nestmatron
# 🟦 2x (5) Summer Flowerchild
# 🟦 2x (6) Doomkin
# 🟨 1x (7) Marin the Manager
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Virus Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (9) Fye, the Setting Sun
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (10) Eonar, the Life-Binder
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13134351

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13134351

[lusty steppe]

this is my list @proven topaz

been working well

I dont like Dorian in the list

we dont have much draw

feel like if we did this and cut spells for more dragons/Magatha I'd consider Dorian. cause Dorian looks decent in full dragon druid lists

where most of your draws will just be minons

[green karma]

Pretty much running the same list, but I have woodland wonders instead of innervate

I’m also trying spitelash dragon

[proven topaz]

I play a similar list too, -1 flowerchild, -2 innervates, +2 woodland +1 dollhouse

But I can see innervate being decent

[green karma]

Yeah it seems alright in stats. I just hate pulling it from chia

[quick gazelle]

well

i can confirm that death growl feels great... against Odd Reno DH

[quick gazelle]

so far today, feeling neutral on death growl, and primus hasnt been useful once yet

but only played like 5 games

gonna try and get to at least 20 with this pair

also, since im trying death growl im running thalnos over the 1x panner

[quick gazelle]

think my new highest combo total?

76

[quick gazelle]

after running into 4 paladins + hunters in a row i kinda wanna put threads back in 😛

[proven topaz]

I think threads might be it too

I have not tried it yet

But it’s such a nutty card

Esp when you run plucky

[quick gazelle]

Why would it go well with plucky?

Oh wait

That works?

I guess it does, doesn't it

Huh.

[proven topaz]

Yeah, I have been screwed by getting my unkillax threaded

It works

[quick gazelle]

I think i do like thalnos more than panner, esp with growl in, but I'm not sure I like either

[proven topaz]

It also works with lifesteal

Yeah both have not been amazing but decent enough that I don’t know a better option 😭

[heavy junco]

I PREDICTED HEARTHSTONE FUTURE... Players Were Playing THIS RAINBOW DEATH KNIGHT in TOP LEGEND... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtYEerk5AzU

So he basically plays that Raichu version PocketTrain picked up and just flubbed the attribution but pretty cool other than that.

[lusty steppe]

nice maybe someone will come up with the eoptimal list

havent had much time to p lay it since Elden ring and also was playing the new Marin Druid list

[grave jay]

Ok so it took two weeks to get to Clark 🙂

[lusty steppe]

guess we might be able to drop yogg post patch

[quick gazelle]

so, had a friend visiting for most of last week

got some progress on writing the guide but not much

and now theres a patch soon anyway and also seems like marin has impacted the meta in a way ive barely been able to see

so, especially since the deck seems to be out there and gaining traction, might just let it lie for now. if i can play enough post-patch and am confident its still good i might still do it anyway

[lusty steppe]

ya the patch might end up hurting us if theres more handbuff and less reno

more handbuff paladin*

[proven topaz]

Zach did cook a list now that there’s data

[lusty steppe]

o are we getting a report on thurs

[proven topaz]

It runs double plucky and no zilliax

[lusty steppe]

o shit my plucky add working out

does it run the combo cards

[proven topaz]

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 5280
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Blood Tap
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (9) Yogg-Saron, Unleashed
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13185447

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13185447

[proven topaz]

Double panner too

[lusty steppe]

2 pluckies for 3 rushers. but might be that important

panners seem okay in stats

you need like a 2 drop

not much options

still wonder if running ticking zill worth it

for 4 rushers at least

but against paladin you do need to draw reska, or you just lose usually

wait

post patch

just drop Yogg for Ticking zill

[quick gazelle]

double plucky

now that really surprises me

1 definitely made sense to me, but 2?

also surprised no zilliax, it feels like it saves my hide so often

but zach sure is a better deckbuilder than i am

[proven topaz]

Stats look really good on plucky

[quick gazelle]

yeah congrats!

[lusty steppe]

the marin patch really made it better

[proven topaz]

And maybe there’s not enough zilliax data?

[lusty steppe]

it didnt look as good pre patch

it spossible, also some zilly data might be other modules?

unkilliax always felt too slow and we had big stat minions to play on 8

i think ill try that list with -1 yogg + Ticking Zill post patch

[proven topaz]

I like that, will probably do the same

[quick gazelle]

most of my zilliax games were with unkilliax

but definitely preferred ticking/perfect

unkilliax was weirdly counterproductive at times

[lusty steppe]

yeah i think the unkilliax nerf helps us alot, just depends how many handbuff paladins there are

reno nerf probably doesnt help us

[quick gazelle]

yeah its probably a real issue

this deck really couldnt exist in most metas

given how long the combo can take to set up

[lusty steppe]

yeah

i wonder if wed end up dropping some of the combo or not

[quick gazelle]

then again, the stats seem to imply this list has been a real improvement over classic handbuff DK

so maybe theres room for us to lose some prey and it still be good

[lusty steppe]

like if hte meta speeds up, is it drop saloons for quilters?

magatha also isnt looking bad in archetype stats

[proven topaz]

Or maybe adding threads

[lusty steppe]

threads + plucky is a nice combo for clearing paladin boards

just need to make sure plucky dies

[quick gazelle]

yeah esp if plucky is so good that running 2 of them makes sense, threads gets a lot better

i assume

maybe it is too awkward in practice

[quick gazelle]

surely thats not for soulcage versions though, right?

[lusty steppe]

ya i can't tell

it only has a 150 count

id assume not

i was tempted to try it with 1 soulcage in ETC, and cutting the taps

but idk if that was it

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 5280
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Blood Tap
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13187544

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13187544

[lusty steppe]

probably this is the list id go with

can either be zill, or 1 threads

[grave jay]

It makes more sense yeah.

[quick gazelle]

gonna take that for a spin but -1 panner for a threads, just to see how well it works in practice with the paintfins

[quick gazelle]

i feel like i must be doing something wrong in the handbuff pala matchup

i literally cannot win that matchup

yet the stats suggest that even though its very unfavoured, its not that bad

also i swear theres less paladins on ladder when i play later at night

[lusty steppe]

it could be reno paladins making it less bad

[quick gazelle]

thats definitely having an effect

but that cant account for everything

[lusty steppe]

its felt very rough to me if i dont get off a yodeler/reska

[quick gazelle]

i dont seem to survive long enough to get there

reska needs a lot of deaths before that works

and i usually die far before enough minions do

[lusty steppe]

ya true

you have to get lucky and hit mining causalties and paladin to play some lower buffed minions that die

[quick gazelle]

ok today is not my day and im gonna play battlegrounds instead

[lusty steppe]

yeah i think the druids are pretty hostile to the deck

doomkins make getting puppet down rough

[quick gazelle]

yeah, and im just having some very poor luck and facing a lot of frustrating decks which are getting their things on curve

maybe its time to go back to frog shaman. how do you like your dirty rats now, reno priest

[lusty steppe]

T4 at top 1k rip

t3 at legend

i think druid emergence hurt us alot

though idk if the data is including non OTK. cause the matchup Winrate is unfavored into Reno priest and 50/50 into warrior

but idk maybe if Unkilliax is gone that makes up for a lot

[lusty steppe]

O wait with Adaptive, I wasn't thinking about how we could death growl amalgam DR onto other minions

so infinite Reska, infinite big swarmguards

infinite Primus

[quick gazelle]

yeah im very interested in that direction

death growls time to shine at last

it already wasnt working too badly when i tried 1x in the list

[lusty steppe]

Yeah I wonder what we cut

Can’t wait for dk cards

[proven topaz]

It's gonna be nutty, because the buffs will also stick to deathgrowled minions

[lusty steppe]

Might try a few games of handbuff later tonight

once i get enough elden ring in

curious how it does post patch in this druid/rogue meta

at least we good into DH

[lusty steppe]

yeah this is unplayable into doomkins

unfortunately

[quick gazelle]

yeah, ive had so so much fun with this deck but its time in the sun, brief as it was, feels over

what a journey though

rarely have i jammed a deck so hard

[lusty steppe]

Yeah it stinks hopefully it can come back

Just Doomkin mess with your Puppet and it’s all over

Feels fine into other decks though

[quick gazelle]

well, i doubt the soulcage OTKs will be in the next set but there might be other things to do with the archetype

[lusty steppe]

I was running the Vs list without Yogg for zilly

[grave jay]

Well felas.

T4 🙂

At least we did it.

Got an off-meta deck super high 🙂

[proven topaz]

How did prosthetic hand do in handbuff DK?

[quick gazelle]

i dont think it ever did much

its a mech, unfortunately

so it doesnt receive handbuffs well

feels like a weird oversight tbh?

[proven topaz]

ahhh i thought it was both

[quick gazelle]

but maybe they were worried about it being too strong with puppeteer or something

[proven topaz]

but you're right

too bad, I got excited for a second 😓

[quick gazelle]

im excited enough but eliza goreblade

that seems like a super cool card

theres a lot of things you can do with that deathrattle to scale the buffs

at which point token generators, hero powers, and especially ghouls night begin to hurt a lot

sounds very DK-ey

[lusty steppe]

If we bounce a ghoul i guess we double up on the buff

[quick gazelle]

is there a way to tutor eliza?

brittlebone buccaneer is interesting

works very very well with the mini

and handler is a 2 mana buffable rush

we're getting some decent options to adapt handbuff with if we want

also reska

[lusty steppe]

I'm glad none of these are 3 mana

im still not sure which of these would fit in handbuff

or how handbuff would even look, if meta is faster might not need OTK

really hoping for another draw

or somehow the tourist draw works in handbuff

[quick gazelle]

im taking it as a given that the OTK focused version is dead next set

im happy to try and pivot handbuff

and if OTK does come back, nice

[lusty steppe]

yeah the quillboar might be better now

since it can clear

[quick gazelle]

hmmm

theres really nothing new for handbuff to add other than buccaneer and handler, is there

[lusty steppe]

yeah there isnt

thought about buttons for draw

but just not really it

only other thing is drop Mining and just run tap/soulstone/1 soulcage and run magatha

since we have other two drops

I dont think you go saloon at the start

[quick gazelle]

dropping mining though

[lusty steppe]

yeah I know ha

feels bad

so i gave up

[quick gazelle]

soulcage is never it without brewmasters

yeah i think handbuff might sit this set out

[lusty steppe]

death growl doesn't even have shadow tag

sad

[lusty steppe]

Seems like there might be a viable handbuff list(still loses to druid) at low sample sizes

but cant figure it out

[quick gazelle]

oh?

what direction is it taking

and how low a sample size are we talking

[lusty steppe]

we miught be back now

[quick gazelle]

How come?

[lusty steppe]

Splish splash banned

so druid dead

meta probably going to rogue/excavate DK

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 5280
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Blood Tap
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13187544

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13187544

[lusty steppe]

going to try this

Excavate/rogue run ticking/perfect zill

so dont think we need yogg

[lusty steppe]

nvm

still scuks

[proven topaz]

Sad

Thanks for trying

You got me excited

[lusty steppe]

It might still work I drew bad

Lost to a Reno warrior and Reno priest somehow

I’m just not sure if the current build is it or not

[lusty steppe]

Might try to do a list with Magatha or something

[lusty steppe]

ha funny tictac running a magatha handbuff list

not otk list

for some reason I cant crtl v into discord on my Chromebook, but just look at his list on hsguru->streamer decks

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 8620
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# 🟨 1x (4) E.T.C., Band Manager
# ⬜   1x (1) Fistful of Corpses
# 🟦   1x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦   1x (2) Threads of Despair
# 🟨 1x (4) Maw and Paw
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 1x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (10) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Perfect Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13394192

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13394192

[lusty steppe]

running this list atm

not sure if tap or spellstone is better

[green karma]

Probably spell stone

[lusty steppe]

Cutting Zill

Need to draw reska

[proven topaz]

Is there ever some amalgam deathgrowl handbuff angle?

[green karma]

oh hey I was thinking about this yesterday

I want to run brittlebone with puppeteer

handler is an excellent early game

which the deck was desperate for

[proven topaz]

Oh yeah that’s a great idea

[proven topaz]

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 5600
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Death Growl
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13792494

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13792494

[proven topaz]

What about this

I wanna fit amalgam somewhere if we play growl, but don't know where

so maybe it's just not growl 😛

amalgam does fit the handbuff archetype quite well and is an undead

maybe we just run 1 plucky and 1 soulcage

both plucky and soulcage seem decent in stats, so maybe thats not it either

tbf now that I'm building the deck again I'm seeing a lot of potential

[quick gazelle]

interesting

[proven topaz]

so the big questions now are:

do we play amalgam + growl

it's probably a meme

but we have many great deathrattles we could copy (reska, eliza, puppeteer)

[quick gazelle]

hmmm

[proven topaz]

even baron is not bad, and handler, and amalgam

inifinte puppeteers

[quick gazelle]

amalgam might be too optimistic? we dont draw through the deck very well so its unlikely to be consistent

im more interested in growl

[proven topaz]

yeah you are right that i cut some draw to get here

[quick gazelle]

im also not sure we care about eliza

[quick gazelle]

even if you didnt, DK draw is slow

eliza is just good, admittedly

do we still want to go the full brewmaster/soulcage combo direction?

[proven topaz]

brittlebone buccaneer also synergizes well with the deathrattles

and is a buff target

[quick gazelle]

yeah i love bucc + handler

theyre both amazing

[proven topaz]

yeah maybe the brewmaster soulcage is nit the direction

[quick gazelle]

but maybe we want just a more classic handbuff approach

[proven topaz]

not*

[quick gazelle]

yeah we just dont have time to set it up

we cant do it v warriors anymore either

[proven topaz]

Charging face makes my monkey brain happy

[quick gazelle]

oh 1 billion percent, it was some of the most fun ive ever had in this game

i giggled every single lethal

[proven topaz]

❤️

[quick gazelle]

but it was predicated on being able to punish reno

[proven topaz]

yeah it will not do well against unkilliax armies

[quick gazelle]

so i think the soulcages have to go

we can maybe keep 1 brewmaster?

[proven topaz]

But thats where deathgrowl reska comes in

we can keep 1 brewmaster

1 soulcage

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 6260
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Adaptive Amalgam
# 🟦 2x (1) Death Growl
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 1x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 1x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13792861

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13792861

[proven topaz]

this feels very tight

Just not sure if we have enough draw

[quick gazelle]

when the season resets ill definitely try experimenting with this. atm i wanna get as high a finish as i can so i dont wanna play anything but wave shaman in ranked, but after id love to try returning to this list. bucc + handler are huge upgrades

[quick gazelle]

we never really did

we just made up for it with cards like geist

[proven topaz]

but we have a lot more early game with buccanneer and handler

[quick gazelle]

true

[proven topaz]

Geist looked bad in stats so I cut it

[quick gazelle]

yeah geist prob doesnt fit atm

meta is too fast

[proven topaz]

and yeah my rank is also too precious atm

[quick gazelle]

if we're doing amalgam/reska, do we just throw taelan in?

[proven topaz]

wanna play with this in 2 days

[quick gazelle]

so we have the actual prison combo?

[proven topaz]

i think we should

[quick gazelle]

like at that point we have a real strategy

for warr and the like

[proven topaz]

do we cut the last soulcage

or do we put them in ETC

[quick gazelle]

not sure tbh. its prob just a cut, it was only ever something that made sense for the combo approach

[proven topaz]

We have many things we could double up on though

and it looks good in the stats

[quick gazelle]

even still?

im surprised

[proven topaz]

https://www.hsguru.com/card-stats?archetype=Handbuff+DK&format=2&highlight_deck=13187544&min_drawn_count=800&min_mull_count=100&period=past_week&rank=all&show_counts=yes&sort_by=drawn_impact&sort_direction=desc

[quick gazelle]

but i guess its good to have a corpse spender

[proven topaz]

Im using this as reference

[quick gazelle]

well i'll definitely experiment with it

[proven topaz]

oh whoops

thats the wrong link

[quick gazelle]

the big question for me is how do we deal with aggro

our early game gets better with bucc/handler

[proven topaz]

actually you are right

[quick gazelle]

but is it better enough?

[proven topaz]

nvm, i sorted by mull

https://www.hsguru.com/card-stats?archetype=Handbuff+DK&format=2&period=past_week&rank=all&sort_by=drawn_impact&sort_direction=desc

Dealing with aggro is a problem still, probably

we could revisit threads

[quick gazelle]

yeah

id love to be able to run malted magma

but no way we fit that and buttons in

so threads makes sense

handler improves threads a lot too

2 dmg rusher instead of needing to use HP

yeah lets keep thinking about this and reconvene with new season start

and see what feels good

but its definitely an interesting idea

making handbuff work atm with prison combo

[proven topaz]

amalgam and growl arent looking hot in the (VERY low sample size) drawn wr stats

[quick gazelle]

im not shocked but doesnt mean we cant try and make em better

[proven topaz]

yeah fr

[quick gazelle]

i think itd prob be best to have just 1 amalgam

[proven topaz]

you did the same thing with evolve shaman 🧑🏻‍🍳

As far as building shaman goes, I think I found the sauce 🙂 posted about it on twitter

its not evolve sadly

https://x.com/rayquinox/status/1817970311670939908

Rae Qui N'ox (@rayquinox) on X

I added more pirate synergy in my shaman deck, also bouncers 🐸. They work really well with flametongue totem. The deck feels incredibly strong, got my highest late season rank in a while. The deck has game against everything, except maybe a spilliax on t4-5.
Code in alt & below!

Twitter · Jul 29, 2024, 5:07 PM

Wonder what you think 🙂

[quick gazelle]

shaman atm is just so fun and varied

it looks good to me! ive not played with pirates as much myself, but i love you putting hagatha and the bonk stuff together

its weird to me how many people arent running hagatha, makes me wonder if i overrate it

i'll give this list a try too, looks really fun

i wonder if you could fit 1x wave in

[proven topaz]

yeah in stats hag looks meh, but I think thats because they dont run frosty

[quick gazelle]

both for warrior insurance and hagatha consistency

esp since you dont have bloodlust

[proven topaz]

I was thinking about that too

Having one extra big spell would feel good for consistency

[quick gazelle]

but i guess this deck is more purely focused on the bonk win condition, supported via pirate tempo?

[quick gazelle]

yeah the two gotta go together

its just so good

i can stop pirates in their tracks

druids too

16 extra effective hp is a LOT

[proven topaz]

But yeah the deck is focused on strong curve plays

tempo

and then finish with slapping face

[quick gazelle]

some random thoughts going into trying to build. first on possible corpse spenders, given DK atm generates so many corpses through handler/casualties that its worth looking at

blood tap; could always try to find room for this. cheap in corpses, synergises with zilliax if we choose to run that (which is prob good)
zombietank; could be. its kinda mehh? but it is cheap, and we want to have access to big stat swings in the midgame, esp with taunt (you can do this + something else instead of one swarmguard, for example)
soulcage; well we know how awesome this thing is, but i worry it might be too slow. its not really active on 4 usually (you need corpses + a good target), and the only great targets for it that we're likely to be able to play soon enough to matter in most MUs are reska and puppet mini. i think its a skip
army; its good and it swings a turn earlier than hound. encourages running eliza.
bride; could be, she's a good all-purpose corpse eater that summons a nice taunt. even with only 5 or so corpses, it puts on pressure or stalls to help bridge to a hollow hound swing
and finally... corpsicle?! it may sound odd, but with no other corpse spenders, it can become a really efficient tool over time, that gives us a way to do direct damage in a way the deck has always lacked.

overall im most intrigued by army, bride, or corpsicle. what do you think?

and on other things:

eliza; not sure if she's worth running. shes awesome but she seems best in the context of lists that use rotation/army. could push us towards running army. honestly not sure if im underrating her (she makes casualties/handler amazing later on) or not
taelan; this could just be absolute bait, but it does open up a potential win condition v warrior, and there's worse things to tutor than reska.
gnome muncher; my biggest worry with this deck, especially if we try prison shenanigans, is that we get rolled by aggression. this could be another stabilising play to go along with hound. also, since we lack the soulcage combo lethality, having an extra source of damage we can direct face could be nice. if we went gnome muncher id be more inclined to go for eliza with either corpsicle or army, to help us remove small things and direct muncher face
amalgam; i think we only ever run one. it's kinda bait on its own, so the main purpose would be for a prison combo.
wildcard - frostbitten freebooter? good deathrattle to have reborn or copied via death growl. could provide a crucial avenue to delay

[lusty steppe]

I wonder with all the tokens if the porcupine is better

[quick gazelle]

thats a good point

[lusty steppe]

I know it was bad pre expansion but maybe not now

[quick gazelle]

hmm

worth experimenting with

i still think its awkward

but it could definitely be a lot better

[lusty steppe]

And yeah I think you need a lot of corpses fast to get reska down for zilly matchups

[quick gazelle]

oh speaking of which

we 100% run ticking/pylon

[lusty steppe]

If we aren’t running the otk then we can add the hero back too

So maybe corpse+ hero power could be our wincon for late game

6 damage a turn

[quick gazelle]

hero definitely precludes eliza

but that could be fine

yeah good shout

[lusty steppe]

And yeah I don’t see otk working until maybe post patch

The late game decks are unkilliax walls

[quick gazelle]

ok, a first stab at an eliza handbuff DK

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 7240
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 1x (1) Adaptive Amalgam
# ⬜ 1x (1) Body Bagger
# 🟦 2x (1) Death Growl
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (5) Army of the Dead
# 🟨 1x (5) Taelan Fordring
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13800170

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13800170

[quick gazelle]

and a first stab at a horseman/corpsicle DK (1x freebooter in it... but maybe that could be horizons edge?)

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 7320
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Body Bagger
# 🟦 2x (1) Death Growl
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Corpsicle
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# 🟪 1x (3) Frostbitten Freebooter
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (6) The Headless Horseman
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13800275

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13800275

[proven topaz]

shouldnt our wincon be big buff dudes in a handbuff deck?

I can see a more tempo focused one, or more undead deathrattle focused

[lusty steppe]

well just for decks that can kill our big stuff

but yeah idk corps looks bad in stats

so prolly not it

hardcore cultist looks good in limited stats

prolly cause aggro

[quick gazelle]

yeah its legit worth considering

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 6520
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Body Bagger
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Blood Tap
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# ⬜ 1x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13801191

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13801191

[lusty steppe]

o wait forgot yodeler

i guess you just lose to zilliax though without hiting reska

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 6720
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Body Bagger
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# ⬜ 1x (3) Plucky Paintfin
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13801254

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13801254

[lusty steppe]

thinking about magatha too maybe

since only 4 spells

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 8280
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Body Bagger
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13801272

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13801272

[lusty steppe]

okay and i forgot puppetter lol

im so rusty

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 8480
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (3) Toysnatching Geist
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13801373

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13801373

[lusty steppe]

there

[quick gazelle]

i intended to do some testing in casual but got sucked in by this pile of shit bones deck

some cool lists raichu

i dont think we run toysnatching geist in this meta though

[lusty steppe]

O that’s better cause I wanted a card to cut ha

Prolly add back in bodybagger or tap

Or maybe i do +1 paintfin, +1 hero power

but does magatha give the head away

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 8400
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Body Bagger
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13802398

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13802398

[lusty steppe]

debating whether to add in a paintfin

[quick gazelle]

i think not

it only worked before because things were so slow

[lusty steppe]

though the hero card is pretty slow

[quick gazelle]

now we simply do not have time to spend 3 mana on a 2/3

i like this list though

buccaneer into baron improves our draw

hardcore cultist seems amazing atm

[lusty steppe]

ya might jam this

[quick gazelle]

i think you cut gold panners tbh

we have handler/casualties now

[lusty steppe]

true

[quick gazelle]

and your list uses magatha too

[lusty steppe]

what would you cut for

[quick gazelle]

for what

[lusty steppe]

i guess the 3/2 taunt is an option

instead of panners

[quick gazelle]

i think zombietank is kinda bad

ok im having a weird bug where i cant copy the code for the adjusted list i made

how about this

wait, we want miracle salesman instead of body baggers

we have no corpse spenders so bagger is just a 1/3

and bucc + salesman is good

[grave jay]

That's what I had in mind.

This deck needs brewmaster and choul's night

[lusty steppe]

wait and salesman works with reborn

im not sure if we run brew in current meta

[grave jay]

Ah

Warrior

[lusty steppe]

@quick gazelle is that only 28 cards too?

[quick gazelle]

is it?

oh there appears to be a bug

somehow puppeteer is counted as 4 cards there?

[lusty steppe]

yeah weird

but yeah take bagger out for salesman

then just what are the last two cards

could be: Panner, paintfin, Scarab, Geist

primus

or maybe even sylvanus for another MC on zilly?

nah shes too expensive

Cheesebro also an option

[quick gazelle]

could be corpse bride? or army?

or just blood tap

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 8100
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 1x (1) Death Growl
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# 🟦 2x (2) Blood Tap
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# 🟪 1x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13803738

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13803738

[proven topaz]

do we generate enough dudes in this list for pylon ticking?

[quick gazelle]

between casualties and handler, i think so?

but maybe its wrong

[proven topaz]

Im a bit cooked from the heat so I'm also not thinking sharp anymore 😛

I'll take another visit to the kitchen tomorrow

[quick gazelle]

just took the above list for a spin and won without playing a single handbuff

salesman > bucc > baron > eliza > double mining casualties

[lusty steppe]

i wonder about griftah too

the 4 slot a bit late and can draw us 3 cards or burn

[quick gazelle]

tbh i think griftah is overrated even in decks that synergise with him

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 8480
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Scarab Keychain
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13804153

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13804153

[lusty steppe]

might try this

[lusty steppe]

okay 2-2 so far

got destroyed by perfect curve shaman

beat a zilly warrior just now

[quick gazelle]

howd that matchup go?

did you win via reska shenanigans?

[lusty steppe]

yeah

they played hydration for x2 zilly + dirty rat

i had lethal if i got through tautns, and used reska + Yodeler

your soulstones upgrade real fast

spellstones*

DH just conceded

salesman work really well with this deck

t2 : brittlebone t3: handler to clear his board + salesman

[quick gazelle]

yeah my main takeaway from my DK testing today has been that bucc fuccs

@frank glen was right

[lusty steppe]

scarab keychain seems a bit betteer cause you got two good 2 drops added to the pool

[quick gazelle]

i think that logic is bait tbh. the 2-pool is huge

its like 70 cards

[lusty steppe]

i just wanted another 1 drop for the curve

and it looked decent in mull stats on hsguru

[quick gazelle]

fair

shame there arent more good deathrattle 1-drops

[lusty steppe]

i dont think ticking pylon is it so far

i might go to ticking perfect

pirate decks are wrecing me

[quick gazelle]

what turn are you usually dying

[lusty steppe]

4

[quick gazelle]

oof

maybe its threads?

[lusty steppe]

could be

but i hate magatha with more than 4 spells

[lusty steppe]

Okay another game my opponent concedes t4 after I do a bucc/coin handler

[quick gazelle]

ok bucc + puppeteer mini is insane

its so good

cant believe i underestimated this

[lusty steppe]

Buccaneer has felt amazing

Didn’t realize it would stick so well

[quick gazelle]

yeah, and synergise with so much

like, i think handbuff DK is real

we'll see post patch ofc

but this deck got meaningful upgrades

and can do some really strong things

[lusty steppe]

Cultist has felt nice too

[quick gazelle]

cultist?

oh yeah

[lusty steppe]

Hardcore cultist

[quick gazelle]

i havent drawn her yet

not played enough games

[lusty steppe]

I’m 5-2 now

So far buccaneer has felt amazing. I’m still not sure on Zill in this meta

[proven topaz]

I’m so happy this thread got some steam again

Handbuff DK is dope

If zilliax gets adjusted next week I think we can consider the charge angle again 😎

[quick gazelle]

damn right it is

and its feeling so good to play

[quick gazelle]

lets see how the meta develops. im optimistic in any case - this deck has answers to a lot of things

[quick gazelle]

this deck seems to perform well into druids. we put too many stats in play for them, and can swing back all their chip with hollow hound

[lusty steppe]

Yeah I’ll prolly test more tomorrow on the climb

Didn’t want to drop out of 11x so stopped testing it

[quick gazelle]

hardcore cultist doing fuckin work in this meta

i wanna replace magatha though. spell density in this deck is on the edge anyway, and i want to try 1x acolyte

its interesting how much more flexibility we have in our handbuff options now that we have buccaneer and puppet minis

blood tap and spellstone both feel more cuttable (though not both)

[lusty steppe]

ya i think just making sure you have draw

[quick gazelle]

like, this deck is broadly the same as before, yet feels so completely different

i love bucc

[vestal ledge]

I just found this thread, what is a charge buff, is this good rn?

[quick gazelle]

so

handbuff DK existed in whizbangs, but was bad, but we iterated on it to make a combo chargebuff version that for a few weeks was sleeper OP in the reno meta

the combo approach isnt viable atm, the meta is too fast and it doesnt even work v reno warrior anymore

but we're still using this thread to iterate on regular handbuff for PiP

[vestal ledge]

Ah fair enough, maybe a sleeper to come out once they nerf everything to shit

[quick gazelle]

it seems fine rn tbh

i feel like problem is lack of player interest, not power

this feels good atm

DK got some nuts cards and its well positioned into the meta

it can answer concierge druid, control warrior, and hold its own v aggression

[vestal ledge]

I’ll give it a shot, is there a consensus deck right now I can see two posted recently

[quick gazelle]

about to take this for a spin - ive always felt zombietank was kinda bad, but we have 0 other corpse spenders and in the one high-sample list i could find it in (in bronze-gold, admittedly), zombietank stats look surprisingly good

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 5380
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 1x (1) Death Growl
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Shambling Zombietank
# ⬜ 1x (3) Acolyte of Death
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (8) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# ⬜   1x (3) Pylon Module
# ⬜   1x (5) Ticking Module
# 🟨   1x (0) Zilliax Deluxe 3000
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13845416

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13845416

[quick gazelle]

the one i just posted is a bit of an experiment but i think its good

this isnt really a refined archetype atm

[vestal ledge]

That’s fine it’s just climbing time anyway

[proven topaz]

I tried a few games this morning, but got overwhelmed by different druids

And I faced a warrior that could outlast me

I kinda wanna add back the chargers

[quick gazelle]

id be curious to hear how it goes if you try!

[vestal ledge]

Queueing it up now alternating with that zoolock warlock/dk someone posted

[lusty steppe]

o wait dreadhound has rush

yeah no paintfin anymore

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 6880
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Scarab Keychain
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 1x (3) Acolyte of Death
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13848160

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13848160

[lusty steppe]

still feels weird without geist

okay this feels good

acolyte might be the play now thanks @quick gazelle

if you dont like mag it might just be x2 acolyte

[quick gazelle]

yeah a lot of things work with it

[proven topaz]

I tried the quillboar again

30 damage spread over enemies

But sadly I played against an unkilliax warrior

[lusty steppe]

I’m tempted to do -1 Magatha -2 scarabs for +1 Acolyte and +2 Ghouls Night

[lofty perch]

Been trying a boneshredder list and your stats are unmatched with this version. Effectively if you survive through turn 4 you win - yodelers and even shredder help with unkilliax with reska

[quick gazelle]

im dubious on boneshredder. i think its a more expensive and less consistent way to get what we can via buccs and growls

im enjoying running 1 growl

also, you know something ive been doing recently a lot more often?

just... yodeller on 4 on a mining casualties token or handler

sometimes its just a solid turn 4 play, esp v wide decks

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 5280
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Scarab Keychain
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Acolyte of Death
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13872484

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13872484

[lusty steppe]

Climbed through d5 with this now

I think scarab/cultist are flex cards

but if you cut cultist I'd only do it for threads

not sure which one is better

scarab could even be youthful if you want some charge I guess

saloon*

guess geist is also an option but 3 is crowded as is

I dont think this meta we want to run saloon and soulcage

[lusty steppe]

Post patch we could also consider grimewalker if handbuff paladin is everywhere

[lusty steppe]

okay hit legend

only played 1 overheal priest and lost, so not sure how that MU will be if I see more of them

felt favored into druid, elemental decks though rogue felt hardest of them

Against warrior you need to really hit yodeler + Reska. sometimes I won even if their first unkilliax died because I killed ham and yodeled the two unkilliax from their Hydration

Buccanner/Cultist are MVP vs pirates, if Buc sticks and you have DR minions they often just concede

deck feels pretty good, I'd say if you want to play saloons to drop scarab.

[proven topaz]

Damn bro, nice one

How does it feel against pallies

I’ll try your list tomorrow

[lusty steppe]

I haven’t played many

It feels better than older lists because handbuff can’t kill a t2 1/4

Still though you want to get a yodeler reska to win that matchup. The new 2 drops definitely help discount reska faster

[quick gazelle]

so acolyte is feeling great but

it can be hard not to overdraw

if you stick a board with acolyte on field your opponent can burn a lot of cards

[lusty steppe]

It does sometimes overdraw but I feel it’s worth mostly

[quick gazelle]

agreed

[lusty steppe]

It’s just nice finally having a lot of draw

[quick gazelle]

also ive been trying zombietanks for a while and... ehhhh?

[lusty steppe]

I just really love these new two drops

They seemed decent in stats

[quick gazelle]

[lusty steppe]

We don’t spend corpses on anything

The deck just destroys Druid unless they get a lucky early otk, usually you just drop a swarm guard they spend everything to kill then you heal up and win.

[quick gazelle]

exactly...

and it feels like we should have something there

i think i might drop handbuff for now until the patch

i wanna see whats possible after it and where handbuff might fit in

i have to admit, i do quite miss the combo style

the deck feels good atm but it doesnt hit the same when i have to play for tempo and when i cant just hoard cards and make crazy buffs while giggling to myself about whats gonna happen in a few turns

[lusty steppe]

Yeah I know the feeling

I ran into three showdown paladins in a row somehow

So just going to wait for patch

[vestal ledge]

I noticed that with normal rainbow too, not a lot of payoff for spending corpses anymore

[vestal ledge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/s/OLXge6Z2Q1

Saw this

[proven topaz]

that list looks interesting

I think it needs a bit more draw

[proven topaz]

tried 3 games, played against 3 unkilliax decks (2 warriors, 1 druid). The warriors were so eager to rat all my stuff

One warrior played 3 rats in one game, still got 3 unkilliaxes from hydration station

Lost all of em

Feels bad

In theory the reska + thaelan + amalgam + death growl combo should work

but getting all those cards in hand and reska discounted is a tall ask for this deck

I just can't play decks that fare so bad into unkilliax warrior, it's too feels bad mentally

[vestal ledge]

yeah probably a druid angle until changes

[lusty steppe]

I was beating unkilliax warriors unless they got out a super early one

I basically just focused on discounting reska and then the first hydration station I would reska + yodeler

eliza is really nice for the stolen unkilliaxes too

[lusty steppe]

Yeah just beat another Zill war

[vestal ledge]

whats your current list?

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### Rainbow DK
# Cost: 5280
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Scarab Keychain
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (3) Acolyte of Death
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# ⬜ 2x (3) Hardcore Cultist
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
AAECAfHhBAL/lwbIyQYOh/YEj+QF8OgF+PkFhY4Gy58GkqAGubEG9rEGi7cG/7oGkMsG1uUG1+UGAAA=
# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13872484

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/13872484

[lusty steppe]

Hmm buttons to 4

[lusty steppe]

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[fickle helm]

### BFU Handbuff DK
# Cost: 5400
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Lesser Spinel Spellstone
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# 🟦 2x (2) Brittlebone Buccaneer
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dreadhound Handler
# ⬜ 2x (2) Mining Casualties
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# ⬜ 2x (3) Acolyte of Death
# ⬜ 2x (3) Chillfallen Baron
# 🟪 2x (3) Rainbow Seamstress
# 🟨 1x (4) Eliza Goreblade
# ⬜ 2x (4) Nerubian Swarmguard
# 🟦 2x (4) Sinister Soulcage
# 🟦 2x (4) Yelling Yodeler
# 🟦 2x (5) Amateur Puppeteer
# ⬜ 2x (6) Hollow Hound
# 🟨 1x (20) Reska, the Pit Boss
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14006477

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/14006477

[lusty steppe]

3-0 with this so far

5-0 now are we back

[proven topaz]

YES

brewmasters

thats the buff DK i love to see

queueing as we speak

[lusty steppe]

Let me know how it goes

I’m now 6-0

But some jank decks I’m facing

Went from like 500-250

[proven topaz]

0-1 to a reno shammy now

he drew insane for a reno shammy tho

1-1

first game i didnt draw my yodelers

okay this felt good

[lusty steppe]

lol I am somehow 10-0

Beat Sunq to get 11-0

[vestal ledge]

queuing it up shortly at 3k will let you know\

this slaps wtf https://hsreplay.net/replay/8F8oNPN6i4g75hVuRejwYi

what are the bounce targets in this game, the ghoul?

[lusty steppe]

Usually just ghoul you can sometimes do it on a swarm guard too

[vestal ledge]

so its good but i seem to be getting outvalued by rainbow a lot

[lusty steppe]

yeah I might have just won against janky patch decks

I was playing rainbow razzle dazzle dks

[vestal ledge]

After playing a bunch of rainbow dk, i will say chargebuff is infinitely more fun

[proven topaz]

I am facing quite somre reno jank atm

But the deck feels amazing

[proven topaz]

Played some more, its the only deck I've been winning games with along with tempo druid today

It might be legit

[vestal ledge]

what list are you running? did you have any luck with standard rainbow?

[proven topaz]

I play the list that Raichu posteed

I've played a bride DK version, that one didnt work too well at the moment

havent tried standard rainbow

[vestal ledge]

maybe ill have to give it another shot, it felt fun I just lost xD

[proven topaz]

So far my strategy has been to focus on finding the early game minions to get tempo

If you hit Eliza early you can bank a bit more on the token side of the deck

against slower options I try to find puppeteer

you can be greedy with reska

I sometimes use yodeler on reska, or on eliza

[lusty steppe]

yeah ive been doing better against handbuff now then the old otk list

i think cause reska gets discounted way faster

yodel + reska comes online way earlier

of course with only puppet/spellstone/eliza as your buffs some games can feel bad if you dont hit any

[vestal ledge]

Is the quillboar dude just not good anymore?

[proven topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[quick gazelle]

chargebuff doing well post-patch?

[quick gazelle]

cant play much but gonna take this for a spin. maybe with 1 geist instead of an acolyte

first game, beat a handbuff paladin for what im pretty sure is the first time ever

this is surely a good omen

[lusty steppe]

Yeah your reska gets discounted much faster now