Sludge Soup

[uncut mason]

Theres no way thats actually good

[cedar perch]

i havent seen it orplayed it

[uncut mason]

rin i mean

Is that list playable?

or bait

[cedar perch]

also there are people running symphony and steamcleaner in the same deck

[uncut mason]

kekw

why

bro sludge warlock has to be a mess rn

[cedar perch]

very low sample size

[uncut mason]

whats the actually good list

Also that replay was fucking insane lol

relies heavily on playing slime quickly tho

and finding it in general lol

[cedar perch]

my avg otk turn on otk sludgelock is 6.7

[uncut mason]

Bro theres are so many directions kekw

[cedar perch]

its like fire druid, but instead of ramp/the flower thing its slime + removal

[uncut mason]

huh

Am I gonna recraft thad again

[cedar perch]

tbh pretty decent chance thaddius gets nerfed after holidays

[glass gulch]

yeah, although they're just gonna ban sludges

[uncut mason]

wut?

[glass gulch]

DUST ASSASSANATION

[uncut mason]

why

[glass gulch]

it's cuz they banned pyro and not thad

[cedar perch]

after fire druidand now sludgelock I think blizz/community has had enoughof thaddius

[glass gulch]

(joke)

[uncut mason]

would sludge be playable without thaddius

[cedar perch]

and they dont want to nerf sludges bc sludges are a real deck unlike pyrotech which wasnt in any other deck

[glass gulch]

the aggro sludge fatigue list looks decent

[cedar perch]

the otk version is entirely reliant on thaddius but the control and aggroish versions dont play thaddius

[uncut mason]

can I get the aggro list

[glass gulch]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6300
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 1x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Monstrous Form
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟦 1x (5) Steamcleaner
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
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[cedar perch]

its kinda a mess on d0nkey rn

[uncut mason]

Yeah I'm not crafting rin sorry

Holy mother of fuck

bro there a billion sludge lists rn

[cedar perch]

you can go more into discard, more into imps, more into otk, or more into pure good cards

[steep narwhal]

yeah people are trying all different things

[uncut mason]

So... the buffs did work then?

[steep narwhal]

kindof

[normal quail]

No it was more fun before

[steep narwhal]

they psuhed an OTK deck which they said they didnt want to do

and they hurt the fun discard lists

[normal quail]

The discard deck was more fun and they killed it

[steep narwhal]

now people just run trolleyh and maybe the 4 mana imp discard

[bleak snow]

Rin was bait. That’s Janos list before they switched to OTK. But Rin was swamped for Neophyte.

Because it gives you reach to close out games.

[late spear]

LMAOOOO

I kept my rin LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[bleak snow]

I have two.

[late spear]

Do I legit try this

I've never played control
how do you kill with this deck

[bleak snow]

Have you ever played Symphony?

[late spear]

Yeah i don't like Rin

Do I just swap her out for uhhh second Fracking

[bleak snow]

Whatever you want.

[late spear]

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[pearl radish]

### Chadlock
# Cost: 6760
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Chaotic Consumption
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Mortal Coil
# 🟨 1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Spirit Bomb
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (3) Acolyte of Pain
# 🟦 2x (3) Mortal Eradication
# ⬜ 2x (3) Plague Eruption
# ⬜ 2x (3) Scourge Supplies
# ⬜ 2x (3) Silvermoon Arcanist
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟪 2x (5) Amorphous Slime
# 🟨 1x (10) Thaddius, Monstrosity
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[normal quail]

Treant Druid eats the chadlock deck for lunch

[cedar perch]

stats say its pretty close to even

warlock can aoe early boards, and warlock doesn't need to fully otk on the combo turn because treant druid doesnt have a good way to deal with thaddius without a board

[normal quail]

Soul of the forest and cultivation are huge. If they get those out on their minions, it’s over because chadlock cannot do repeated board clears. Plague eruption doesn’t kill deathrattle minions unlike defile

Soul of the forest in particular

But they also have minions that spawn other minions on deathrattle

In short, I don’t know how chadlock are keeping those matches close to even, because if treant druid is doing what it’s supposed to do by filling the board with back to back treants, chadlock loses

[rare moat]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6300
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 1x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Monstrous Form
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟦 1x (5) Steamcleaner
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
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[rare moat]

This is the closest we have to a real list rn ^^ it's at 1122 games and almost 58% wr

The reason symphony makes it in even with steamcleaner is cuz you do it as a finisher, it can provide burn or make your dude +6+6 which autoconcedes most opponents

[fresh oxide]

tome tampering lowkey wins games you weren't supposed to win

[sharp void]

yeah, tome tampering is goated! (as 1x)

[rare moat]

I've been playing this wrong

You always keep wheels

If want to beat down asap and you think you won't get cleared, maybe you can toss wheels in search of waste remover

But most times you do not wanna toss wheels cuz having sludge in hand and deck sets you up for swing turns with remover, tome tampering or steamcleaner

[normal quail]

Yeah I’m liking this deck better than the OTK one

Getting more consistent wins with it

It’s also less likely to get banned

[rare moat]

Yeah play this more and sludge is more likely to get a buff than a nerf

[bleak snow]

Plus you get to use those slick Signatures

[normal quail]

What signatures

[bleak snow]

Virtuoso and Pop’gar lol

[normal quail]

Damn I don’t have either of those

Sad

[rare moat]

I just have the virtuoso signature

Gonna cry for the next year about popgar

[summer phoenix]

I missed where he had tried neophyte but he had swapped in 2 miracle salesman for rin and 1 anubisath. 3 7/7s more than enough to activate forge of wills

[steep narwhal]

Maxie is running armor vendors now

Could see that with more mirrors you need to be able to dump hand some

[late spear]

Would you run Acolyte of Pain in the Combo Sludge

[bleak snow]

It’s an option for more gas. You have to make sure you don’t mill something with it though. Usually save it for the combo turn for gas.

[steep narwhal]

I feel the list pocket is running is pretty good

One reverb is really nice

And defile over eradication means on t4 you can defile and tap

At top 1k it’s mostly rogues and warlocks now anyways

[bleak snow]

Are those the two one of differences? I haven’t been watching anyone today.

[rare moat]

They got pocket train doing it now?

Well shit I guess the deck is officially real

Also means plenty of material for me to watch because this is gonna be a tough one to get used to

[normal quail]

Mostly drilling rogues and turn 6 otk locks? That sounds… pretty dull

[steep narwhal]

Yeah the deck is one pocket would play

He use to play minelock a lot

[rare moat]

They SPECIFICALLY asked us not to do that

[late spear]

Idk how you’d run Chad Sludge earlygame

Like it’d be a turn 6 win, but what if you brick

[vestal knot]

if you brick you lose

[late spear]

So it’s a turn 5-6 win or bust?

[normal quail]

You can wait until later but yea it’s pretty much over if you don’t have the right cards by 7, most decks will be able to kill you by then

Esp if you are playing another chadlock, it will be a race to turn 6

[late spear]

Watched Dane’s video on Sludge Chadlock

The mirror Looked hella awkward

[late spear]

OK Chat I nailed down Sludgelock

[rare moat]

Right lol

I think sludge is just the sludge fatigue deck

That feels the best for me

The sludge disco also feels about the same level but it's good for different matchups

However right now in the rogue meta we need something unanswerable and OP because rogue will answer it if not

[bleak snow]

Nailing down and sludge don’t belong together in a sentence.

[rare moat]

Sludge does seem sort of like a "do what you want" package

If it was just a tad better then zacho would tell us which one to play

But for now all we can get is "unplayable"

[bleak snow]

That’s the only section I care to listen to on the podcast.

[rare moat]

Same

But I got a feeling he's gonna leave warlock for last and be like "I don't wanna talk about warlock"

The best warlock rn is ramplock

Turn 6 daddy jar jar

[bleak snow]

Everyone was merely adopted by Chadlock… I was born into it. Molded by it.

[rare moat]

Zacho has confirmed sludge is good in aggro

Pogcast

He says the best way to go is to build something with sludge, fatigue, and some imps with imp king in the along with flame imps

[bleak snow]

[rare moat]

The challenge is that you don't have space for all of your typical sludge-adjacent cards: steamcleaner, fuel, virtuoso, miracle salesman and some others are "extra" cards ans we need to choose from them for like 4 slots lol

[bleak snow]

Yep. Makes sense... Which is nice for some personal expression or meta flex.

[rare moat]

I've gone with 2 salesman, a steamcleaner and magatha

[steep narwhal]

Yeah I had tried implock even before the patch. Pally nerf is huge too for imps

Since the 3/3 imps would just die to all the aoe

[rare moat]

Exactly

Rogue is annoying because they keep finding priest aoe or lightning

[steep narwhal]

I wonder if you run the 4 mana imp

[rare moat]

Even druids find lightning sometimes

[steep narwhal]

It sounded like you’d run forge over imp location?

The imp draw is good though since lock doesn’t have much draw

[rare moat]

I think this is the only imp card you really want. I'd prefer if we had something lower curve but nothing makes healthy imp board under turn 4

Maybe the 1 drop with circle and location is actually the way

You'd cut all tech for it

[bleak snow]

It'd be cool if we could weave in the Imp-possible but that's kind cope

But we just kill them first.

[rare moat]

Yeah I thought about it but we need like 1 or 2 mana board flooding somehow

[bleak snow]

yeah it doesn't make enough sense.

F5 should be popping.

[rare moat]

Yea hopefully zacho will have the cook

[bleak snow]

I think the best performing one rn with Flame imp is Feno's cook.

[rare moat]

Don't think I saw that list

[steep narwhal]

Isn’t disciple just bad in stats

[bleak snow]

Sludge Warlock

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

2x (1) Flame Imp

2x (1) Fracking

2x (1) Miracle Salesman

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

2x (2) Baritone Imp

2x (2) Crescendo

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (3) Furnace Fuel

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

2x (3) Trolley Problem

2x (4) Crazed Conductor

2x (4) Disciple of Sargeras

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

1x (6) Imp King Rafaam

2x (9) Imprisoned Horror

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[fresh oxide]

looks cool tbh

imps but without location ans impending catastrophe

[rare moat]

Taking out mischievous imps for disciple is definitely interesting

[bleak snow]

Honestly... I'm glad to see that change... I hate those cards

[rare moat]

If you get a bad hand you can forge it and get the 3/4s and get a sludge out of hand

[bleak snow]

Yeah probably correct. I often felt my Rafaam wasn't impactful enough.

who knows... like you said... 26 core cards... do w/e you feel like

[rare moat]

Well mischievous would make rafaam better

[bleak snow]

Yeah.

[rare moat]

Than disciple

But on the upside rafaam would make 3/4 taunts which become 5/7s

It's like playing druid

[bleak snow]

[rare moat]

Wait 5/6 oops

Is it really enough imps tho

To have the board or the infuses to have rafaam ready on 6

We're assuming you draw and play at least 2 of your imp cards that make a single imp, along with disciple

[bleak snow]

Honestly… I’d probably swap in Symphony or Drathir.

[rare moat]

Oh no rafaam?

Symphony might be good

Spell tho

[bleak snow]

hard to say. Rafaam can be such a stat bomb.

[rare moat]

Well think about how your game goes

You play high pressure 1 drops

Maybe a location, maybe some sludge

[bleak snow]

eh... i hate location.

just in general lol

[rare moat]

It feels slow but it makes your 7/7 x2

[fresh oxide]

Imp location and impending can singlehandedly win you a game but i feel like the clog your hand to your death half the games lol

oh you mean 3 mana one

[bleak snow]

oh you mean Forge, not the imp location.

yeah that's fine. not the imp one.

[rare moat]

The rush alone feels crucial for staying on board for the 6 turns in which you're hoping to use minions to swing your opponent (nearly) to death

[fresh oxide]

3 mana one is core yeah

[rare moat]

Nah I don't wanna do imp sunergy

Besides rafaam

[fresh oxide]

card carries the class lol

[rare moat]

Daddy zacho said to so I'm gonna experiment the shit out of it now

[bleak snow]

lol

[rare moat]

Rafaam I mean. Not the imp location

[bleak snow]

yeah.

i'm glad we're not forced to do imp location and impending.

[rare moat]

Well we kinda don't have to

[bleak snow]

that's my poin >.<

this isn't just nathria imps.

i'm down with that.

[rare moat]

Why make imps synergize with draw and buffing when we can synergize board with going face

It's too many cards so it would ruin the deck where every card = pressure

Rafaam is... I think 5/5 right?

Or 6/6

That dude is tall. Let's make the reddit noobs start complaining about rafaam

[bleak snow]

6/6 infuse 5.

[rare moat]

I'm kinda worried about smorcing myself tho, if I'm under 15 playing non-taunt stats on 6 my opponent can probably finish me

[bleak snow]

yeah. it's a balance...

i could see the 28 cards + Void Virtuoso/Harp

[rare moat]

Fuck balances, deck building is for getting around that

[bleak snow]

😈

[glass gulch]

been trying [[sheriff barrelbrim]] in otk sludge with moderate success

[pearl radish]

sheriff barrelbrim (Other potential matches)

Sheriff Barrelbrim (View card and tokens)

[bleak snow]

more 1 drops good

[glass gulch]

feels like good spot removal, way to prolong the game and whatnot

[bleak snow]

i played it a bit when i was highlandering it up earlier in the season. it was fine.

[rare moat]

Maybe we actually need void virtuoso but what do we cut? Salesman? That means we tempo void

[rare moat]

This guard is low key good against specifically sludge aggro because you just shut down our big boi

But other aggro makes too.many things for this to be worth 4 mana

[bleak snow]

Tempo void isn’t the worst thing in the world.

I’m curious on stats on Imprisoned Horror.

[rare moat]

For horror you probably cut fuel right

[bleak snow]

They are both in the list above

[rare moat]

Horror is interesting but in a deck where you're not really spending time drawing cards, it's not really that steamy

It's a card dump for a 5/5 on like turn 5 or 6 unless you pull all the pain cards AND virtuoso to avoid dying while getting your horror ready on like turn 4

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 7860
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flame Imp
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟦 2x (4) Mischievous Imp
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Magatha, Bane of Music
# 🟦 1x (5) Steamcleaner
# 🟨 1x (6) Imp King Rafaam
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[rare moat]

Here's mine so far

So yours is different by cutting steam, magatha, and fuel

Wait not fuel, mishievous imp

[rare moat]

I just beat my worst matchups which are control priest and angry warrior, because rafaam gets you past the amount of clear they might have drawn in 6 turns

[vestal knot]

do u even get the taunts back

pretty sure you lose enchantments on resurrection

[rare moat]

I have yet to see

But I'm not rly worried about it

If you need rafaam to taunt you kinda already lost

[vestal knot]

that's not really my point

it's just that disciple fucking sucks

[rare moat]

Why would it?

[vestal knot]

in my experience it was only playable 20% of the time

[rare moat]

It's more correct here i think because it discards a sludge and doesn't require infuse to make 3 things

[rare moat]

It's different when you use this deck

I remember using it in the disco package and it was kinda hard to play

But here you just put it down ez

Sometimes you can pull crescendo and it takes like 3 extra brain cells to figure out what ur gonna do, but you just play other 4 drops it literally doesn't matter

Play the clear when you want to and drop the pressure afterwards

[vestal knot]

I guess ou lists are just diff then

I hard lean into imps cuz that's how I win most of the games

[bitter furnace]

What list you running jak?

This sludge imp stuff slaps

[vestal knot]

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[pearl radish]

### Implock
# Cost: 6360
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flame Imp
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flustered Librarian
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟪 2x (2) Impending Catastrophe
# 🟦 2x (2) Vile Library
# ⬜ 2x (3) Fiendish Circle
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟦 2x (4) Mischievous Imp
# ⬜ 2x (4) Murlocula
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (6) Imp King Rafaam
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[vestal knot]

murlocula is my current questionable inclusion, haven't played enough to know if it's bad or not

[nocturne elk]

Is there space for murlocula in token druid

[cedar perch]

i dont think murlocula is v good

its also not a tree

[normal quail]

Ignis and sarg feel like weird additions here

These sludge decks are really all over the place

[rare moat]

This deck has conflicting game plans

The cook seems to be "hurr durr sludge face and ur fine"

[steep narwhal]

Yeah with Sarg and ignis I’d expect more control cards

[normal quail]

Yeah it’s weird. Im only running sarg and ignis in my Reno decks

[rare moat]

And they're trying to discard suffocate

[steep narwhal]

Like Sarg I feels goes in the slower steam cleaner versions

[rare moat]

Meanwhile running waste remover

Instead of steam cleaner

[steep narwhal]

And I’d rather just run aggro or otk in this current meta

Aggro imps sludge

[rare moat]

Guess it doesn't really matter tho, any lock deck hoping to control the board until the opponent dies of sludge never works except for the Chad thing

[steep narwhal]

Yeah the meta is too fast for steam cleaner

[normal quail]

Good stats in on this deck

How do we feel about it?

Wr looks solid at 1310 games

[rare moat]

It's a good deck

Monstrous form make me proud

Trolley problem has issues tho with 6 cards in your deck that it can hit besides sludge

Don't know what to do about that really. Just skill around it and ur golden

[normal quail]

Yeah I am constantly having issues with trolley

[rare moat]

I think it's really a defensive move. If your matchup is weak yo board flooding then play it for tempo but otherwise you really wanna be using 3 mana to progress your sludge gameplan

[cold sundial]

The build looks like it’s performing but the deck list itself looks ugly

Like when I look at cleave hunter

Really? That’s the best list we’ve settled on?

[normal quail]

I just got a signature popgar 😍😍😍

[normal quail]

Pre buff discard list was better imo. Current deck feels janky and not as fun to play for sure

[rare moat]

Not really I think the correct one is gonna have something more to do with imps

I believe discard was doing alright on d0nkey too

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6960
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# 🟦 2x (2) Defile
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (3) Silvermoon Arcanist
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Tome Tampering
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
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[rare moat]

This is an interesting deck I found on donkey

The strategy seems coherent and might be a good idea for maximizing the impact of sludge

[cold sundial]

this is where I'm at. still on team jar

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6360
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟦 2x (4) Disciple of Sargeras
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟦 2x (5) Savage Ymirjar
# 🟨 1x (6) Imp King Rafaam
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9410808

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9410808

[steep narwhal]

Yeah forge into waste just wins games so finding another big body is nice

With fatigue package

[cold sundial]

yeah I also think that the rush from forge / trolley / jar help a lot with the imps just being lumps of stats

fatigue package still feels a bit suicidal without harp or virtuoso though

but it doesn't matter if I'm almost dead, as long as they are dead (see: blood treant)

[steep narwhal]

How does disciple feel

[cold sundial]

it's nine power for four mana

it's alright

badgamelol was running shellfish last night

[steep narwhal]

It does kind of mess up otk lock

I might have played them a few days ago cause I got shellfish

[normal quail]

Shellfish instead of disciple?

Seems like you need imps to make Rafaam worth it

[steep narwhal]

Yeah I think have to stick with disciple with rafaam

[cold sundial]

Well yeah you would cut disciple for clams, and rafaam for drathir

I like that disciple gives us a soft two drop. I loathe using the hero power

[rare moat]

Forged disciple on 4 is geega nuts

Really the decision making revolves around what sort of removals the opponent has

Warrior can just dumpster your boards no matter what by turn 5

[cold sundial]

Yeah the deck is a little slow to completely get under a lot of control decks

What I do like is that we can present both one tall minion and a somewhat wide board at the same time

[normal quail]

Rogues drilly the kid nonsense is such a pita

[cold sundial]

Yeah and bone spike

[rare moat]

Rogue loves to face us cuz of bone spike

I'm starting to think that leaning on board so much can sort of counteract the sludge part of the deck

To work in the mag list you might consider an arcanist

Or you probably just use a steamcleaner

[cold sundial]

The numbers for anub look good

Even though it’s defensive, it provides a worm / monkey situation

When we have a rushed forged minion, it’s hard to value trade into it when it’s behind a big taunt wall

[rare moat]

We probably cut disciple for it tho

Too many 4s

[cold sundial]

Yeah that would be the other plan

Again cutting rafaam

For drathir

[rare moat]

Yep

[bold nimbus]

what list can i try if i don’t want to craft rafaam?

[rare moat]

It's above

1 sec

[bold nimbus]

and chad

[bold nimbus]

looks clean

[rare moat]

It is quite

[bold nimbus]

no need for arcanist?

[rare moat]

Only problem is trolley... problem

[bold nimbus]

nice one dude

[rare moat]

Was unintended lol

[bold nimbus]

trolley->disciple?

[rare moat]

Disciple goes into mostly rafaam decks

If you want to try her in the discard it's also good in there

[bold nimbus]

ty will do

[steep narwhal]

I’m not a fan of arcanist in that list because she isn’t really playable without using/destroying sludges

Maybe Thalnos idk

[rare moat]

Trolley can hit your 1 cost spells alot of times so if you're planning to play trolley on 2 or 3 you can draw a spell and brick yourself

Sometimes you discard it anyway tho

[cold sundial]

Yeah trolley can be annoying that way

[steep narwhal]

I also don’t like symphony since shuffles the deck

But maybe stats on it are decent now?

[cold sundial]

But if you’re like me and don’t care about your cards, you can enjoy 7/7 rushers

[rare moat]

For that reason i think you don't keep trolley

[rare moat]

It's kind of a drathir

You just play finishers

[cold sundial]

Yeah you need something

[rare moat]

Often your board survives because the imps and removers are chunky bois, so symphony is really good when you make a +6+6 and just end the game

It doesn't matter if you shuffle up your sludge, often you're playing symphony before you even find any sludge

[cold sundial]

Idk sludge on wheels and disposals are mull targets

[rare moat]

Which makes sense youd want to run a tome tampering right

[cold sundial]

I think one tampering might be ok? It seems like a tech card almost

Worthless 9/10 times

[rare moat]

Yeah kinda tough

I feel like getting sludge out kf hand is not happening tho

That's why I liked lakkari felhound

I still stand by that cook

[fresh oxide]

idk i missed tampering in some lists tbh

it carried me some tough games

and hey, we have furnace fuel

[cold sundial]

Yeah tampering gets a lot better if you run double fuel double guide

[normal quail]

Lakkari was amazing when sludge was 2 cost

Tampering has definitely won me games

[bleak snow]

You all are still Hearthstoning? Interesting.

[normal quail]

Bro I got a signature popgar out of the blue yesterday, gotta use it now

[bleak snow]

Excellent.

Welcome to the club.

There are dozens of us... Dozens.

[rare moat]

Lakkari is good when ur building board and need opponent off the board

It's a backup plan

Here's what I use in the discard list

Discard

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

Year of the Wolf

1x (1) Miracle Salesman

2x (1) Tour Guide

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (3) Forge of Wills

2x (3) Furnace Fuel

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

2x (3) Trolley Problem

2x (3) Walking Dead

2x (4) Disciple of Sargeras

2x (4) Lakkari Felhound

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

2x (5) Savage Ymirjar

2x (5) Soul Barrage

1x (5) Steamcleaner

1x (5) Symphony of Sins

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To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

Oops meant to do code

List focuses mostly on making tall dudes and protecting them

[rare moat]

Like 4 of us

[bleak snow]

Fr

[normal quail]

How’s your WR with this vs other sludge decks

So many sludge lists

No crescendo probably means treant Druid is a struggle

And pally

Crescendo has also won me games vs dragon druids that play golem on turn 6

[rare moat]

It's really won me 1 game so it hasn't been insane for me

My discard list is probably just another approach depending on your pocket meta

[rare moat]

Yeah it goes alot of directions, I have 4 sludge lists I switch between depending on pocket meta

Discard, imps, a more defensive one and the basic one from donkey.

Imps is the kne most recognized by good players so you probably wanna try that first

[normal quail]

Someone posted this list on Reddit, I really like it

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I think it’s similar to the one you had @rare moat

Bot not working?

[vestal knot]

yea it's offline

[normal quail]

sludge

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

Year of the Wolf

2x (1) Flame Imp

2x (1) Fracking

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

2x (1) Void Virtuoso

2x (2) Baritone Imp

2x (2) Crescendo

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (3) Furnace Fuel

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

1x (3) Tome Tampering

2x (3) Trolley Problem

2x (4) Crazed Conductor

2x (4) Mischievous Imp

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

1x (5) Symphony of Sins

1x (6) Imp King Rafaam

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Fracking pairs really well with disposal assistant

You can get 2 sludges on the bottom with assistant, use fracking as a 1 mana play to deal 8 damage and get a card

[rare moat]

Yeah this is probably a little better than mine

Just because I would like to have symphony in there

For the record tho the discard list above is my highest win rate deck

[rare moat]

15-5 in this session with disco

[normal quail]

Nice

I haven’t been keeping track but the list i sent earlier has been Rocking

For me

It has no Forge which I know is anathema here

[rare moat]

Blasphemy

[normal quail]

Discard deck is good

Been alternating between it and the other one

They play differently, discard you’re prioritizing the big guys, the other one is all about filling the board with imps and then doing sludge

[normal quail]

You can just see the frustration against OTK warlock when you drop forge on turn 3, then remover, then jar 😂😂😂 absolutely ruins the combo

[cold sundial]

seven toughness is hard to remove

[normal quail]

Treant druid is a really tough matchup bc you really have no board clear. Crescendo is sorely missed there

[rare moat]

That's kind of the matchup you give up

They just get under you because you're not control

That's fine

You do have rush and taunts that can help if you pull them fast enough

Actually I'm considering anubisath for that deck

W8 was talking about it

[cold sundial]

Trolley problem helps a small amount

But sludges are almost useless against small token strategies without the board clear

[rare moat]

Yeah it's really rough you're basically hoping you get 2 7/7s out before they're already killing you, then use board to shut theirs down

[normal quail]

Bruh just suicided himself and won me the game by playing steamcleaner after I did symphony 😂😂😂😂

Forgot about the million sludges in my deck

[normal quail]

Easy top 5 HS moment for me. He would’ve won if he played any other card or no card at all. Bro had the ball at the 1 yard line on the game winning drive and ran it straight back to his own end zone

[cold sundial]

[bleak snow]

Sludge and Chad Tier 3... Classic...

[rare moat]

Expected that tbh I already knew

But the question is, which list

[bleak snow]

I mean... you can see the list already... ;P

[rare moat]

Uh.... where

[bleak snow]

You have vS Gold and you don't know about seeing the lists????????????

[rare moat]

No I kinda forgot that part, I just wanted to be in the chats

[bleak snow]

[rare moat]

Could've said you were referring to the threads lmfao I thought you meant the previews in the website

[bleak snow]

I tagged ya lol they will be on the website soon enough.

[rare moat]

But nah all the lists are tier 1 guaranteed

And when everyone tries to play it it'll be too high skill so I'll still be the only sludge lock in ladder

(Aggro)

[rare moat]

Guys we are omega back

Zachos list is tier 3

That means mine is tier 1

[normal quail]

Lol

[bold nimbus]

The Jar list?

[rare moat]

Yerp

[rare moat]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6240
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (2) Thornveil Tentacle
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟦 2x (4) Disciple of Sargeras
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9295415

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9295415

[rare moat]

This is a deck ecore just dropped

I played it like 10 times

Feels omega nuts

Especially into d1 meta cuz you absolutely fuck tree druid

The tentacle is probably the star of this list because the board interaction is nuts, it's tempo, and the heal makes your fatigue stuff better

It's possible to cut disciple for forge because I mean cmon dude BUT you only have 2 7/7s so I mean I can see arguments for cutting it in this case

Inconsistent, playing it can slow you down and if you pull it without a 7/7 in hand it's a hand clog

[rare moat]

..nnnnnno?

I'm not sure what the appeal is

Oh if u don't like 1 ofs just try the thing I posted earlier

[bold nimbus]

tried adding Darkhan to the deck, but I never played him

Sludge has a good midgame but an awful early game without 1-drops

[rare moat]

The one I posted above has plenty

It feels even better than when I was playing tree druid

[bold nimbus]

i run similar list but with jars instead of tentacles

and darkhan but he doesn’t seem to be doing well

[rare moat]

Symphony is better because it costs 5

And it's a good turn 5

And you should try tentacles it's really good

[normal quail]

Gonna try this bc I’m a degen

[normal quail]

Steam cleaner is just too good to leave out imo

It has single-handedly won me games

[rare moat]

Yeah

Problem is you get situations where your hand or deck is full of sludge and you're praying to rnjeezus you draw your tome or steamcleaner and you never draw it in time

Or you have them in hand which means you drew steamcleaner instead of sludge, making it a hand clog. You need cards that can always be played

[cold sundial]

Are trolley problem and furnace fuel bait

Trolley feels good, but is generally not a great performer in stats

[fresh oxide]

seems like you need either fracking or tome tampering to use furnace fuel effectively

trolley i like tbh, huge help against treant druids

[normal quail]

I dropped fuel and haven’t missed it at all

Tour guide in place of fuel if you need more card draw

[rare moat]

Seems possibly cuttable since you have some 3s. The fuel from furnace does feel good tho and makes remover better

What would you wannt to put in their place?

[cold sundial]

Not sure. Just was looking at numbers

[rare moat]

I been cooking

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 8640
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Monstrous Form
# 🟨 1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# 🟨 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (2) Thornveil Tentacle
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# ⬜ 2x (4) Imposing Anubisath
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9569595

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9569595

[rare moat]

Turns out it affects alot of things about the deck when you remove trolley

Maybe we just go full circle back to sneks on wheels

[fresh oxide]

tentacle is lowkey a cool option rn

[normal quail]

Do you really need void virtuoso when you have tentacle? I sorta like tour guide in that slot

Or tram mechanic

If we do have void virtuoso tho, maybe find a way to add flame imo

Imp

[rare moat]

Idk zacho ended up cutting flame imp from his deck

I simply had a couple extra spaces so the virtuosos went in last

I was looking for multi purpose 1 drops, it's important when ur running monstrous form that you can always can make a minion to spend it on

And bro has 3 health it's not bad. Coin you can make a turn 3 4/6

I considered vicious slitherspesr in the slot for that reason, but virtuoso saves you from suicide so the multi purpose is really valuable here

[cold sundial]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 14880
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Click-Clocker
# 🟨 1x (1) Devourer of Souls
# ⬜ 2x (1) Drone Deconstructor
# 🟪 2x (1) Smokestack
# 🟨 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟨 1x (2) Flint Firearm
# ⬜ 2x (2) Kobold Miner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟦 2x (4) Mo'arg Drillfist
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# 🟨 1x (4) Pozzik, Audio Engineer
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟦 2x (5) Burrow Buster
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
# 🟨 1x (7) Tram Conductor Gerry
# 🟨 1x (9) Sargeras, the Destroyer
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9571471

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9571471

[cold sundial]

Mech lock

[normal quail]

Bruh

Did you cook that yourself

[cold sundial]

Yes

[normal quail]

How does it perform?

[cold sundial]

Probably needs more draw

I haven’t tried it yet lol

Pretty close to my original list though

With some lessons learned

Tour guide probably better then click, idk

Souls probably too cute

Oh wait we don’t actually run spells

Definitely mag

[rare moat]

What lol

[rare moat]

I see you have sludge and excavate in there but how valuable does the mech stuff feel to have

I see you got pozzik and some synergy with the drill fist and buster

[cold sundial]

Haven’t played the list in while but drone with the two bigger mechs felt great before

Click is more of a stretch

But forge into buster is pretty reasonable

Brewmaster, in addition to snake, can bounce astalor or flint

[rare moat]

I also seem to recall a big mech with magnetic

A big magnetic is good for charge and forge

[cold sundial]

[[ war gear ]]

[pearl radish]

war gear (Other potential matches)

Wargear (View card and tokens)

[cold sundial]

That card is not very good

Ini is cute, but I think anything like that is probably greedy

[normal quail]

Man I am absolutely farming treant druids with my sludge deck

I think my WR vs treants is around 80%

They just get completely shut down

At D1… 2 games to legend let’s go

Gimme 2 treant druids baby

[normal quail]

All sludgelock baby

Zoom in and check out that dumbass TREANT DRUID’S board…. I would’ve been screwed if he hadn’t pumped their health up above what his was

Classic sludge game

[rare moat]

Which list

I'm rocking the thing with the 6 tall bois and jarjar/sarg

And also the one with no trolleys

Trolleys was really good for paladin and druid tho so it hurts in some ways although the deck in general is Def better

[normal quail]

Custom Warlock5

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

Year of the Wolf

1x (1) Fracking

1x (1) Miracle Salesman

2x (1) Monstrous Form

2x (1) Tour Guide

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

2x (2) Baritone Imp

2x (2) Crescendo

1x (2) Defile

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (2) Thornveil Tentacle

2x (3) Forge of Wills

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

2x (3) Trolley Problem

2x (4) Crazed Conductor

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

1x (5) Steamcleaner

1x (5) Symphony of Sins

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To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

@rare moat here ya go

Trolley is too good for druids and pallys like you said so I couldn’t take it out. I was farming treant druids at probably a 80% wr and kept drawing them.

[rare moat]

Based

Yeah i know

Trolley gives you 2 hits which is like 3 or 4 trees gone

Before they die

I'd say you def run it until you stop seeing sweaty speed climbers

Then it becomes better to prioritize 7/7s

How were you liking the tentacles?

[normal quail]

Tentacles won me a lot of games! just like trolley, super helpful for early game removal

I am not 100% sold on the defile as I had no problem with treant even without drawing it, but I will say it saved my butt a couple times with dragon golem

[normal quail]

Yeah I’m going to start seeing more mining rogues for sure, which are still winnable matchups but this deck doesn’t do as well against. How does your big boy deck handle em?

[fresh oxide]

made my first brawliseum run with sludge lock

[sharp void]

normally i am just a mere spectator in these threads (enjoying the discourse, guys!;)... but my current version flows so well right now, you guys might wanna give it a shot!

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6240
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Monstrous Form
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (2) Thornveil Tentacle
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 1x (3) Tome Tampering
# 🟪 1x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9593875

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9593875

[rare moat]

Yeah, with all the removal we have, defile at this point is giga druid tech

But still has multiple uses so not the worst idea if you need a tech card

[rare moat]

Bruh 8 wins is solid for a tier 3 deck, I think we're gonna bring the wr up

[fresh oxide]

if there were more treant druids the number would be higher lol

[normal quail]

Looks good, what rank u playing at

[fresh oxide]

instead i got plague dks

[normal quail]

It’s basically the same as what I’m running, you just have tome instead of steamcleaner. I took out tome in favor of steamcleaner because of not running furnace fuel

[fresh oxide]

though druids of all sorts were there as well

got absolutely rekt by fire druid since apparently 4 mana fire neutral isn't banned there

[sharp void]

these stats are since last patch,- so it is between a bigger bracket (2k legend last season and from this season bronze-diamond 2)

[sharp void]

idk if that is right tbh, tome tampering seems soo good in my matches. but it is fair to say, it is weaker by taken furnace fuel out

[normal quail]

It can be a good finisher but you don’t want to be stuck with 0 cards in your hand with this deck

Steamcleaner gives you a good finisher, 5/5 minion on board, leaves you with cards in hand, can be good plague dk tech

It looks like it’s working for you tho so I respect it

[sharp void]

if i were to play steamcleaner i would look to play a version without 4 7/7 and fracking

i forgot about the interaction,- does steamcleaner also destroy cards from within your hand?

[rare moat]

DK accidentally makes sludge tier 3

Lmao

We would be tier 2 if plague wasn't so extremely popular. It's like 1/5 of my games

[fresh oxide]

well plague dk isn't unwinnable

but if they excavate until rat it kinda is lol

[rare moat]

That's the big thing about steam cleaner, if you build around it you become a control deck. 7/7s are the best cards in your deck

Sometimes people wanna make the tome or the steam better so they have do all this defile and arcanist and stuff but you're taking more from why you win

I think it's better to cut steam because I never have sludge in my deck when I'm through playing waste removers and frackings

[normal quail]

Yeah I don’t run 4 7/7 in mine. I do have 1 fracking, but definitely not needed

Fracking can save me when I need an emergency symphony or popgar

[rare moat]

You can run one and play it on curve for when you don't pull waste remover

Not bad

Yeah frack saves you alot of times

[steep narwhal]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 7380
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Chaotic Consumption
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# 🟦 1x (2) Defile
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟪 1x (2) Shallow Grave
# 🟦 2x (3) Encroaching Insanity
# ⬜ 2x (3) Furnace Fuel
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Lady Darkvein
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9659088

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9659088

[steep narwhal]

Been testing out insanity sludge

Doing well so far but might be surprise factor

Not sure about shallow grave and consumption. Defile does what grave does but can be used for clearing

But basically you just want them at 18 at t7 and have played an insanity so darkvein does 18

At t7 or t8*

Depending if you have harp or can survive the fatigue combo without void

[rotund oar]

Is there a more discard heavy list post-buff?

Old VS theorycraft list works fine but with the sludge mana changes it might make sense to use different cards

"Lowest" discarders become more awkward

Idk if I like the location in the VS imp list either

[steep narwhal]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6720
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# 🟦 2x (2) Defile
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟪 1x (2) Shallow Grave
# 🟦 2x (3) Encroaching Insanity
# ⬜ 2x (3) Furnace Fuel
# ⬜ 1x (3) Scourge Supplies
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Lady Darkvein
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9660019

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9660019

[steep narwhal]

updated list took out both chaotics

testing one scourge supply for just more ways to fish for darkvein

whats funny is how hitting fatigue with your deck gone can help. just killed a mage with two crescendos doing 19 dmg in fatigue

[rare moat]

Insane warlock breaking the meta?

Let's get cooking

[steep narwhal]

yeah I loss to a rogue, druid, and Reno hunter so now not sure after I was like 6-0-1(tied a priest cause he ratted my voids)

[rare moat]

Oof not the accidental targeting

However I'm pretty sure this needs to be a control deck

Which makes your conductor kinda weird

He's probably cuttable tho considering your win condition is very imminent

[steep narwhal]

yeah that was the 29th/30 card I had added

https://www.d0nkey.top/decks?format=2&min_games=100&player_deck_includes[]=101513

heres the ones on d0nkey

[rare moat]

The lists seem reasonable but also not good

Idk

Yeah there's no way this deck is sludge angle

It's a ctrl deck

[steep narwhal]

yeah its also kind of hard to even play baritone/conductor if you don't have weapon/void up

and you want to save one void for combo

[rare moat]

I'm trying insanity in a control deck and it seems control are the best cards in my deck lmao

Control might even be playable

I wasn't ever able to find the cards to pull off the dream but insanity did do 5 to my opponent

But it did 9 to me lol so idk about that stuff

[steep narwhal]

whats your list

I just wonder what do we use as draw in control

its always just been the struggle for me

[rare moat]

Well control aims to stabilize using few cards

I already deleted my list lol

I'm just testing out good Ole c-lock

Seeing if the good cards on warlock are still good

[rancid pollen]

Otk warlock p good

Used it to climb to legend this month with 80% winrate from d3

Replaced one destroy minion card with defile

[steep narwhal]

I played it a lot but now every rogue runs cult with bounces and it feels so bad

[granite ivy]

Can we somehow put 0 mana 5/5 in this deck ?

[[Imprisoned Horror]]

[pearl radish]

Imprisoned Horror (Other potential matches)

Imprisoned Horror (View card and tokens)

[granite ivy]

By adding like flame imp and maybe something else

tho ig flame imp in 2024 is really bad

[rare moat]

If we had a way to tutor it maybe, idk

When you don't pull horror your cards are all just suicide

Yeah horror comes down fast but you gotta have it in like the top 5 cards or ur screwed

[granite ivy]

I was thinking how giants in questline warlock works in wild but ig there you have quest + 4 giants + raise dead to copy giants so there is more payoff for self damage

yeah wow there is literally no other warlock card in standard that benefits from self damage

[rare moat]

Yeah when warlock gets 6 archetypes in 6 sets its pretty rough

Hard to find anything that works together

[rancid pollen]

its just tempo imp sludge then

this deck is so good

unless cult or ridiculously bad luck or against 100+ armor ig

[cold sundial]

Wait is encroaching legit?

[steep narwhal]

https://www.d0nkey.top/deck/9525212

This deck on d0nkey doing decent

Idk if it’s better than the main list but the insanity decks might be more unrefined

I doubt it’s better but maybe imprisoned horror can work

[rare moat]

It's a extended fatigue package. It's kinda giga suicide

[steep narwhal]

It has some pretty odd cards like gold panner and chaotic seems bad

Cult neophyte is high in stats somehow

[rare moat]

I mean your sludge is control

I don't think you run waste remover

Losing darkvein ends you

[steep narwhal]

Yeah I wanted to try insanity in control lock but not sure what cards to use

[rare moat]

It's definitely a 2 scourge supplies angle

The funny thing about my attempts building control lock was that sludge and fatigue

Is good control

You got tempo to contest board and popgar for a heal turn

Rushes are goated

[steep narwhal]

Yeah the only combo I see is Darkvein + Discover of Souls + Coil Souls + Void + Defile for ten mana 52 dmg

But there’s like chadlock

When I tried it in sludge it was just as an 18 dmg finisher by adding in insanities darkvein and void

[rare moat]

Exactly this strategy might work in wild just cuz of the quest

But in standard I don't really see a good way of surviving

[rare moat]

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[pearl radish]

### Control Warlock
# Cost: 9520
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Armor Vendor
# 🟪 2x (1) Chaotic Consumption
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# ⬜ 2x (1) Mortal Coil
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# 🟦 2x (2) Defile
# ⬜ 2x (2) Drain Soul
# ⬜ 2x (2) Thornveil Tentacle
# 🟦 2x (3) Encroaching Insanity
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Mortal Eradication
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# 🟨 1x (5) Lady Darkvein
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9696150

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9696150

[rare moat]

Here's what I came up with

Oh shit I left in forge brb

I put in scourge supplies there

You gotta save the harp while ramping fatigue and try to heal until your fatigue is high

Healing is probably not enough tho, popgar is a big heal turn but not consistent

[steep narwhal]

Also with combo being expensive do we need doomkin? or maybe we dont need

[rare moat]

Nah because it's not exactly combo heavy

The combo is more of a finisher

But the pieces are multi use too

While you're progressing, you are still doing work on the opponent

When you've used your insanities, crescendo can be lethal

Imp can be a huge idiot

You can drop void, lady, defile for 8

[granite ivy]

What is the main list tho?

[granite ivy]

If you get to the point where fatique ramping is so important that you insanity, not running 4 mana fatigue dude seems weird

[rare moat]

Ayyyy sludgelock went up to tier 2

I knew we'd be able to push it

Reasons why i have more faith in cooking than stats

[fresh oxide]

still no refined lists

wide field for experiments all along

[rare moat]

It's still not very popular

Everyone playing it has their own sludge deck

Zacho says to run the rafaam one with flame imps

But on donkey the best list is the one with Symphony, 1 steam cleaner and monstrous forms

[fresh oxide]

symphony reshuffling all your bottom sludges feels weird, despite having 1 steamcleaner even

i do play it when i need the reach though

[rare moat]

Steam cleaner still hits all the sludges

Which is the main reason it's ok

Symphony is too impactful. +6+6 usually ends the game

[fresh oxide]

yeah but that"s one-of that you have to find
it's a viable option, just wonder what'd be better

i teched tentacles for my brawliseum climb but am not seeing that many treant droods in ladder tbh

[rare moat]

It kind bears everything for that slot because other experiments are sargeras, rafaam, and darkhan

[fresh oxide]

rafaam is swag though

[rare moat]

Symphony is good for aggro and costs only 5 so it's kind of a brain dead pick imo

[fresh oxide]

well sure, i have it in my list as well

[rare moat]

Also you gotta consider the rest of the deck cuz usually one change causes 2 or 3 changes

So for this iteration symphony is probably the best choice

But you can take it out and there are versions for that

[cold sundial]

Every time I feel like this deck did something powerful it’s almost always with forge of wills

[steep narwhal]

yeh

i think fitting in one more big stat minion would be nice

T3 Forge into T4 Waste remover is usually game ending

its the m ost scam thing the deck can do

[rare moat]

I have one like this

It's one of my best sludge decks

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 8640
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Monstrous Form
# 🟨 1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# 🟨 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (2) Thornveil Tentacle
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# ⬜ 2x (4) Imposing Anubisath
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9569595

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9569595

[steep narwhal]

I guess Angry Helhound/shell dont work

[rare moat]

Anub is just better than those

There's a deck that sepean was making, which I also have here, it's good for making the gamelan last into lategame so you aren't so weak to removal piles

It has waste remover, anubisath and shell

[rare moat]

Just looked up hellhound, seems iffy.. it needs some synergy to be worth considering

4 mana 6/5 do nothing seems very okayge

Plus there are so many 4 cost cards this deck likes, there's no point crowding it more

[cold sundial]

Rushes into velarok

[normal quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/847895192010358824/1195434589838131220/image.png?ex=65b3fa38&is=65a18538&hm=af8ee307e35f8f34c54cf3e4e6b34778be73f371323d62bb4468cf390b23a261&

This is MASSIVE

Discard feasting again boys

BACK IN BUSINESS

[fresh oxide]

yeah it's swag

[rare moat]

I'm back to cooking disco sludge

I knew disco was goated

[glass gulch]

I’m a little disappointed it’s not a 7/7

Still nutty with forge of wills tho

[rare moat]

It's really not worse. This thing has 8 health and taunt

[glass gulch]

Imagine a deck running 3 different 7/7s tho

[cold sundial]

you still could

[rare moat]

I mean if you cut fatigue stuff but idk

I'll definitely try cooking something like that on the 18th

[cold sundial]

I mean the fatigue package is only six cards right

just swap out rafaam, disciple

I think just this and waste remover is enough beef though

we just have to be comfortable with random discards

[steep narwhal]

Yeah I think that’s a good start

Only other question is do you try and fit in horror

[granite ivy]

Maybe you can put this in a discard deck?

And change sludge into a full on disco deck without the fatigue package

then popgar isnt that good but w/e you can prob cut him and live with that

Can you have your only spells be soul barrage, trolley problem, furnace fuel and generated sludges?

Cause a lot of discard hits spells

But looking at the collection, there's almost no good discard cards in standard

[cold sundial]

Popgar is still good in a discard deck

Still two sludges

If the undead summoned after being destroyed from the deck

[rare moat]

Remover destroying instead of discarding from deck was a major nerf and they knew it lol

[cold sundial]

yeah

scourge cards prob bait

but I think they could be fun

[rotund oar]

Will this ever be forged

[rotund oar]

Too bad doesn't work with soul barrage either

[cold sundial]

I could see control warlock running this

as one of the forge cards

[rare moat]

Oh yeah you cooked

[cold sundial]

yeah I mean it's way better then disciple

for ignis

[rare moat]

Lock doesn't have to run a shitty forge anymore. Now it's a good card lol

[cold sundial]

control never plays this unforged

but who cares

it's another huge turn 4 taunt

[rare moat]

But I mean you're playing the deck hoping you can find time to forge

[cold sundial]

and actually gives the deck a fighting chance against control

if I'm control lock and I know I'm up against chad

I'm just pushing all of the things face

the only card that's in the deck and good is doomkin

other then forge

[rare moat]

Control just runs anubisath and gloom with wills

[cold sundial]

yeah exactly

[rare moat]

I proposed this to matvey yesterday and I got disowned

[cold sundial]

I like the idea

and I do well on ladder

but I also cook too hard

[rare moat]

It's all about deciding what the good thing is and how you can best support that

Not try to do too many things in 1 deck

[cold sundial]

yes, push the strong synergies

and always remember that queensguard was a bad card for naga priest

[rare moat]

I retain my opinion kf fatigue being mid in sludgelock

It's not progressing sludge gameplan

[cold sundial]

conditional cards have to be very compelling

fatigue is conditional

even if it is a snowball effect

you need to draw the right cards in the right order

[rare moat]

Well it's the synergy problem

Deck is made clunky because you have to choose between progressing fatigue or sludgd

[cold sundial]

that's kind of my trolley problem problem

[rare moat]

[cold sundial]

it's anti synergy

except when we build for discard

[rare moat]

Exactly where I'm going with it lol

I'm saying discard has the best synergy with the deck

It helps you to do what the deck is doing better and doesn't take time away from your progression

It might also be more helpful to just put some good cards in place of fatigue

[cold sundial]

baritone and crescendo are the best two drops we have though

[rare moat]

Yeah that's rough

We are getting a good 2 drop

[steep narwhal]

Control lock could run one chaos for control vs Reno matchups

Where Sarg can’t win it

Popgar crescendo into chaos

If you wanted sludge control

But my biggest thing is how control lock beats Reno decks

I guess ignis weapon?

[cold sundial]

Surely the Reno deck doesn’t run viper

[rare moat]

Delete their cards maybe?

Lol

[cold sundial]

I’ll have to take a look but I wonder if we ever go undead

[rare moat]

Maybe you run curses

Old fashioned chad might help

[cold sundial]

Again we don’t want to split our attention too much

But the four drop is solid for curses

If you want to commit that way

[steep narwhal]

is two forge cards enough for ignis?

or do you usually run 4

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 11280
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# 🟦 2x (2) Defile
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (2) Elementium Geode
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Mortal Eradication
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟦 2x (4) Gloomstone Guardian
# 🟨 1x (4) Ignis, the Eternal Flame
# ⬜ 2x (4) Imposing Anubisath
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 1x (6) Chaos Creation
# 🟦 2x (6) Doomkin
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
# 🟨 1x (8) Gigafin
# 🟨 1x (9) Sargeras, the Destroyer
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9757884

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9757884

[steep narwhal]

Basically one Chaos creation as a finisher

Not sure on waste remover because it just deletes our deck fast.

I'm not sure on x2 mortal or x2 Watchers

[cold sundial]

this isn't my sort of deck, but I'd suggest probably two watchers

over harp

[steep narwhal]

Yeah true

2 forge cards is too low

[cold sundial]

also in control drone deconstructor is very good. probably better then trolly

[steep narwhal]

ive liked trolley some in more control versions

if you aren't running a bunch of spells

but that's harder now

[cold sundial]

yeah i don't like it if we are saving a creation

[steep narwhal]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 9840
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Drone Deconstructor
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# 🟦 2x (2) Defile
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (2) Elementium Geode
# ⬜ 2x (2) Watcher of the Sun
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Mortal Eradication
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟦 2x (4) Gloomstone Guardian
# 🟨 1x (4) Ignis, the Eternal Flame
# ⬜ 2x (4) Imposing Anubisath
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 1x (6) Chaos Creation
# 🟦 2x (6) Doomkin
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
# 🟨 1x (8) Gigafin
# 🟨 1x (9) Sargeras, the Destroyer
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9757954

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9757954

[steep narwhal]

could fit in reverb too but current meta it hasnt been great

if theres more big mions played hten its real good with forge

[rare moat]

I got an idea for a new control lock where you just take sludge, take out remover and put in chaos creation

You can use the minions and sludge literally just for defense

[steep narwhal]

yeah that's what I kindof tried in the list above

chaos is just your finisher

[rare moat]

Oh shit I didn't look lol

[steep narwhal]

which control lock tried before with steam cleaner but chaos just better outside of plague DK. but you have Sarg and Ignis for plague

maybe you just run two chaos though

I miss playing Doomkin

[rare moat]

Yeah it's always 2 chaos, I mean don't think of it like losing 12 cards because ur control, the plan is to live long enough to pack the sludge in there

[steep narwhal]

yeah I guess I could cut 1 mortal, 1 watcher with 3 forge, or 1 drone

geode and gloomstone just feel great for lock

I was hoping for more sludge gen but they work

[cold sundial]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 13500
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Drone Deconstructor
# 🟪 2x (1) Smokestack
# 🟨 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (2) Kobold Miner
# ⬜ 2x (2) Saloon Brewmaster
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 1x (3) Reverberations
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟦 2x (4) Gloomstone Guardian
# 🟦 2x (4) Mo'arg Drillfist
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# 🟦 2x (5) Burrow Buster
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
# ⬜ 2x (6) Chaos Creation
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
# 🟨 1x (7) Tram Conductor Gerry
# 🟨 1x (8) Gigafin
# 🟨 1x (9) Sargeras, the Destroyer
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[steep narwhal]

is snek treasure okay?

[cold sundial]

it's 7 face

[steep narwhal]

I guess makes chaos lethal easier

[rare moat]

It's a good way to kill a reno deck

[cold sundial]

all of the treasures are great defense

[steep narwhal]

do we run symphony with chaos

[rare moat]

Nah

[cold sundial]

yeah idk, symphyony was at the bottom of my choices

[rare moat]

Sadly

Yeah symphony ruins your burn plan

[cold sundial]

reverb is also 29th/30th

[steep narwhal]

yeah I like that list - symphony

feels like a good cook

I hate running Anub too

[cold sundial]

yeah no anub here

just kill em

[steep narwhal]

do we still run Saloon?

[cold sundial]

saloon did seem a little greedy

but it seems alright with some of the other cards

even on miner

[steep narwhal]

Saloo your Sarg against Reno warrior

[rare moat]

It's the old sneks on wheels

Good deck

[cold sundial]

yeah, should do alright

it's kind of like odyn

a little control, but definitely a kill em game plan

[rare moat]

Me and outlaw played snek sludge a good bit

But it seems you took some aggro cards out for a slower plan

[cold sundial]

but drone into saloon is fine

[steep narwhal]

Yeah I think I'd cut saloons for geode and cut symphony for something

[cold sundial]

geode probably good

[rare moat]

Geode is goodge

[cold sundial]

it's a lot of draw

[rare moat]

I think he auto includes imprisoned horror

[steep narwhal]

horror hasn't really worked before but maybe geode finally does it

but then you want flame imps

[cold sundial]

we don't damage ourselves too much here

[steep narwhal]

so I don't think we run horror

[cold sundial]

but it's an interesting point about geode

I think that's a slightly different deck

[steep narwhal]

What about 1-2 doomkins

or no

[cold sundial]

yeah

I was thinking about doom

another great saloon target

just lock em out of the game

[steep narwhal]

just really helps when we need to go control more and hit giga/Sarg asap

[rare moat]

Ok hear me out

Spirit bomb

It clears stuff for sludge to go face and activates horror

[steep narwhal]

-1 reverb, -1 symphony, + 2 Geode. Then maybe -1 saloon for +1 Doomkin? or idk

[rare moat]

Why is drone here? I thought he was mainly for defile

[cold sundial]

drone is the nuts with forge fiend and buster

lots of great hits

otherwise it reads as a two mana 2/3 with a random bonus effect

which is pretty strong on its own

[rare moat]

Oh so it's like a turn 7 give your buster a random effect basically

Or turn 5 for fiend

So as far as removals why run eradication over defile

[steep narwhal]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 11400
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# 🟨 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn
# 🟦 2x (2) Defile
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (2) Elementium Geode
# ⬜ 2x (2) Watcher of the Sun
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Mortal Eradication
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟦 2x (4) Gloomstone Guardian
# 🟨 1x (4) Ignis, the Eternal Flame
# ⬜ 2x (4) Imposing Anubisath
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (6) Chaos Creation
# 🟦 2x (6) Doomkin
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
# 🟨 1x (8) Gigafin
# 🟨 1x (9) Sargeras, the Destroyer
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9758476

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9758476

[steep narwhal]

I think I've settled on this for now to try next week

for control lock version

[rare moat]

Pretty clean

[steep narwhal]

also this is what im going to try playing until miniset drops. The insanity decks on d0nkey have been doing okay so changed some cards:
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[pearl radish]

### Insanity Warlock
# Cost: 10080
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# 🟦 2x (2) Defile
# ⬜ 2x (2) Greedy Partner
# 🟪 2x (2) Shallow Grave
# 🟦 2x (3) Encroaching Insanity
# ⬜ 2x (3) Furnace Fuel
# ⬜ 2x (3) Scourge Supplies
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# 🟨 1x (5) Lady Darkvein
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9758545

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9758545

[rare moat]

How does it feel executing the game plan of this

I thought it was too slow, couldn't figure out what to do for it

Could just be a case of "I didn't make it so idk how to play it"

[steep narwhal]

get them to 18 so you can then combo them is what I try to do

havent had time to play this version yet though

I was making a controlish version too

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[pearl radish]

### Insanity Warlock
# Cost: 12720
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# 🟨 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# 🟦 2x (2) Defile
# 🟪 2x (2) Shallow Grave
# 🟦 2x (3) Encroaching Insanity
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# ⬜ 2x (3) Furnace Fuel
# ⬜ 2x (4) Imposing Anubisath
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# 🟨 1x (5) Lady Darkvein
# 🟦 2x (6) Doomkin
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
# 🟨 1x (8) Gigafin
# 🟨 1x (9) Sargeras, the Destroyer
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9758869

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9758869

[steep narwhal]

Chaos from miniset is better though

i use to have the 3/2 but on d0nkey she was low in stats

[rare moat]

Anybody cooking with gem tosser?

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6240
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Monstrous Form
# ⬜ 2x (1) Spirit Bomb
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (2) Thornveil Tentacle
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# ⬜ 2x (3) Furnace Fuel
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟦 2x (5) Savage Ymirjar
# 🟦 2x (5) Soul Barrage
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
# 🟪 2x (9) Imprisoned Horror
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9759434

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9759434

[rare moat]

This is some jank I've been playing but it's my best deck so far lol

(For sludge)

[rare moat]

@gaunt plinth what do you think of the list above

I just took out tentacles for flame imps

[steep narwhal]

Gese everyone playing insanity lock now

[cold sundial]

thank goodness

deck is not great

[normal quail]

I’m pretty much just waiting for the miniset to drop

[cold sundial]

yeah the new four drop is going to fit in great

no matter what your strategy

[cold sundial]

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[pearl radish]

### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 5160
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (2) Elementium Geode
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# ⬜ 2x (3) Furnace Fuel
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 1x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟦 2x (4) Gloomstone Guardian
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# ⬜ 2x (6) Chaos Creation
# 🟪 2x (9) Imprisoned Horror
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9821263

https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9821263

[cold sundial]

How are we feeling on the fatigue package?

Geode is a lot of self damage. Maybe it’s too much here

But I do like how quickly horror is discounted

[bold nimbus]

i like the idea

[normal quail]

Yeah feels like you need virtuoso or harp

[cold sundial]

Yeah virtuoso isn’t terrible

Or one harp instead of trolley idk

[normal quail]

You could also pop in tentacle although that almost feels like treant tech at this point

Harp, virtuoso, tentacle, popgar, symphony, darkhan - pick your poison but you probably need at least 2 of these if you’re running fatigue

And popgar will have slightly reduced value

With Gloomstone

[rare moat]

I mean you've heard my stance here

Fatigue might only be 6 cards but it's alot given the cards you're giving up to use the package

[normal quail]

Yeah I want to look back at the pre-nerf discard package

[rare moat]

I still have it, though updated a few times

It's doing good but I just dont have patience to play it anymore since it's going to have some new cards that'll help

[normal quail]

Yeah I mean I want to look at using that as the base for adding the new cards

[rare moat]

I haven't thought too much about how to edit this

I'd rather do that while I have cards in my collection and can mess with the deck easily

But here

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@normal quail

Oops

Updated

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

Year of the Wolf

2x (1) Flame Imp

2x (1) Miracle Salesman

2x (1) Monstrous Form

2x (1) Spirit Bomb

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (3) Forge of Wills

2x (3) Furnace Fuel

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

2x (3) Trolley Problem

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

2x (5) Savage Ymirjar

2x (5) Soul Barrage

1x (5) Symphony of Sins

2x (9) Imprisoned Horror

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[normal quail]

Thanks. I’m thinking take out spirit bomb for geode, take out Ymirjar for Gloomstone, take out a soul barrage for chaos

[rare moat]

Well the decisions are a bit harder for me since the thing that makes this deck better is having one extra source of discard and and extra source of pain

So the idea is to cut imps for geode and uhhh I'm really considering forge of wills for gloom

Could cut monstrous form instead

[normal quail]

If you cut forge of wills you def cut monstrous form imo

[rare moat]

True

[normal quail]

Those 2 are in sync

[rare moat]

But cutting form doesn't mean you cute forge

[normal quail]

Yeah that’s fair

I got to legend with a fatigue package that didn’t have forge

[rare moat]

I made one like that