#Sludge Soup

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rare moat
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Esketit bois

bleak snow
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2-0... a concede on turn 7 and a concede on turn 4. Imagine doubting Sludge.

steep narwhal
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What deck

bleak snow
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3-0 ez. Still Floozy's cook. I dunno if they changed it

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4 dmg sludge to their face is a helluva drug

vale summit
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can someone code me

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i saw bug fix and idk how to build

bleak snow
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sec

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Discard Sludge

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

Year of the Wolf

2x (1) Miracle Salesman

2x (1) Monstrous Form

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

2x (1) Vicious Slitherspear

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (3) Forge of Wills

2x (3) Furnace Fuel

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

2x (3) Trolley Problem

2x (4) Disciple of Sargeras

2x (4) Lakkari Felhound

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

2x (5) Savage Ymirjar

2x (5) Soul Barrage

1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir

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This is the one with the discard package. same as before patch.

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there's a chad version cooked up top too.

rare moat
normal quail
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It is still a good deck but I have gotten boned by lakkari already. Knew that was gonna happen

rare moat
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He hit the wrong cards?

normal quail
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1 fuel and 2 sludges in my hand, he hits the fuel, draw tram mechanic discard tram mechanic

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0 sludges discarded

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Fail

rare moat
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That's not bad tbh

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BTW discarding sludge is a finisher

vale summit
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i hate furnace fuel i keep fucking hitting it when i need to deal 4

rare moat
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Your other discards target spells so you can do that early

normal quail
vale summit
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the buff was actually just a nerf lmao

rare moat
vale summit
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its probably a fine card its just making me lose my mind with these 50/50s

rare moat
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The who

normal quail
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The 50/50s always get rid of the one I don’t want hahah

bleak snow
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4-0

rare moat
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50/50s wtf?

normal quail
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50/50 like 50% chance you discard the wrong one

rare moat
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Oh

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I mean yea you can highroll but dude just play stats

bleak snow
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^^

rare moat
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Roll as last resort

bleak snow
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7/7's do indeed hurt them

rare moat
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Yeah I'm pretty sure now that the changes simply change around the play patterns a bit

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You play for stats

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If you have remover, literally play it with 0 brain

bleak snow
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yeah you kinda don't really care what gets discarded rn. i mean you do but you just hit them in the face

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lol yeah... Remover mulligan outlier.

rare moat
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When you've played all your stats you should try to end up with just felhound and some discardables

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If you're in that position you literally win I don't care what's happening

bleak snow
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5-0

rare moat
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7/7 good

bleak snow
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jah

rare moat
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But trolley almost as strong

normal quail
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What do you mean by play for stats

wraith edge
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So I've been giving a OTK version a spin, and I'm finding my biggest issue is handspace. The 3 mana sludges just do not move unless you have Pop'gar late in the game.

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Something that isn't a problem with the discard versions I imagine

bleak snow
wraith edge
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Has Lakkari been dropped yet after sludge increase in the good deck?

bleak snow
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I'm still running it.

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But only 5 games so far.

steep narwhal
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Yeah I’m 0-3 with discard

bleak snow
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variance.

steep narwhal
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Doesn’t help I’ve been renoed on 8/9 3 times

bleak snow
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my mmr is wrecked so i haven't even seen a reno deck.

steep narwhal
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My lakari also discards everything but sludge

bleak snow
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every game has ended on turn 5-7 for me

steep narwhal
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I’m d1 and usually at top 200 mmr

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I’ve played Reno shaman Reno Druid and Naga priest

bleak snow
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let me put it this way i think last season i entered legend top 100... this month... 3k rofl... that's how bad i tanked my mmr climbing with just warlock this month.

wraith edge
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Pffft

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I'm almost 7k haha

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I was trying to make rainbow Dk work before it was even in the patch preview

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Jambre called my deck bad, but it didn't deter me

normal quail
wraith edge
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My post-patch list needs a lot of work, and I deleted it in anger

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I can remake it kinda, one sec

weary steppe
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They killed this deck. All the discards are seriously fucked now

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It might be bc I’m in my feels, but it doesn’t even feel fun anymore

rare moat
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I just played someone playing a pretty good excavate curslock

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I made a paladin ragequit and then a druid concede turn 4

rare moat
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Especially having 2 lakari is a major brick alert

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If both are in hand

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GUYS GUYS

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What if when the opponent is low

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You play ulthok

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It ENDS THE GAME I swear

vestal knot
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I'm actually just killing people with imps

rare moat
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Yeah I was playing imps a week ago too

vestal knot
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waste remover being a 4 mana 7/7 pyroblast the opponent occasionally is pretty cool tbh

rare moat
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It's not too bad

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Literally op

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Shut up I'm a chef

wraith edge
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I got an Uthok earlier as Well Rogue, and the druid spent 25 mana of health, then Eonar, then another 25 health, and won the game

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It's never Uthok

rare moat
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Lmao rip ulthok

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I think I've found ulthok twice in my life and both times were insta concede

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It's toxic fr

cold sundial
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updating the OP to reflect the new list, since we are very far away from Gerry town now

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Sludge Soup

wraith edge
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pre-patch I did play a few games when I destroyed my entire deck

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When a waste remover stayed on board

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Would [[fanottem]] ever not be a meme?

wraith edge
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Goes nice with forge obviously too

cold sundial
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@wraith edge I was thinking along those lines earlier actually

rare moat
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Fanottem is worth a thought maybe

wraith edge
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I think it was a blood dk

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who just healed a shit tonne

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and then a mage who froze it

rare moat
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Take out a felhound for him and try it

wraith edge
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I've been giving myself food poisoning with my cooking today

rare moat
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I hope it did

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For exactly 4 dmg

wraith edge
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and if we run Fanottem

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do we run Jailer?

rare moat
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No

wraith edge
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Loken, Jailer that is

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not The Jailer

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I described that terribly

rare moat
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Oh

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Uhhh

wraith edge
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Has a lot of good hits actually

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just a little slow

rare moat
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I mean at that point I feel like it's gonna be a package of several cards which bricks our main goal of beat em up

wraith edge
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Waste Remover, Ymrijar

rare moat
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But he does make a big boi

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Always hits a 7/7 or better

wraith edge
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I'll try cutting both hounds

rare moat
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Interesting cooking henchest

wraith edge
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Me in 1hr time > 🤢

rare moat
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1 hound is the way

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I'd say cut 1 ymirjar because we so rarely get to even play him

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Then try sticking in loken and fanottem

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Unironically, making stats synergizes with making stats

bleak snow
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Don’t remind me that I don’t have signature Loken.

rare moat
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Feel u bro

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The pain and anger

bleak snow
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At least I have signature Pop’gar.

rare moat
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Are you gonna share or what

bleak snow
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You guys realize we’re going to end up making a OAB deck by the end of this cook….

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Live up to the Soup name.

bleak snow
rare moat
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No I mean I want it

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You basterd

vestal knot
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get flexed on noob

bleak snow
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Lol

vestal knot
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one amalgam band

bleak snow
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I also opened Signature Sif… but the bundle cost me $50 lol

rare moat
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HAHAHA WHAT

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I'm about to roll for popgar wish me luck

bleak snow
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Don’t do it…

rare moat
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I need a little dust for rogue tho

wraith edge
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Fanottem and Loken ain't it

weary steppe
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Stats?

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

Year of the Wolf

2x (1) Tour Guide

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

2x (2) Baritone Imp

2x (2) Crescendo

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (3) Forge of Wills

2x (3) Furnace Fuel

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

2x (3) Trolley Problem

2x (4) Crazed Conductor

2x (4) Disciple of Sargeras

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

2x (5) Savage Ymirjar

1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir

2x (9) Imprisoned Horror

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I suppose you might be able to sneak a Rafaam in there if you tried

cyan tangle
normal quail
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Anyone tried any control OTK decks post patch yet?

steep narwhal
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I tried the VS list but magatha feels worse since harder to dump the barrels

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i think if you figure out a decent way to draw it could be good

wraith edge
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Barrels clog hand mega hard

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I tried running a lower minion set to reliably get Pop'gar from Habeaus Corpus

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but it was terrible

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Deck needs a crazy good draw engine to be a reliable combo deck that warlock isn't close to

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because it also needs to dump hand, which is can't do well either

cyan tangle
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so we just need soularium

wraith edge
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I've been playing the deck most of the night, and its actually become quite frustrating

cyan tangle
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i haven’t even tried the archetype yet. i’m waiting for y’all to cook it just right

wraith edge
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random discard haven't gone my way often, clunky ass hands

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For a buff patch with a shit tonne of buffs, I feel it fell VERY flat

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The nerfs were good, but I feel sludge is somehow worse than where it was a couple of days ago, that I'm hoping is just a teething issue with the new balance

weary steppe
wraith edge
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Sludge on bricks

normal quail
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Yeah, hard to believe they found a way to turn a buff into a nerf but they did it

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Truly unreal lol

steep narwhal
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yeah i think sludge might be dead till rotation

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at this poin tneeds more discard stuff since they messed up the current ones

vestal knot
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imagine if we had chamber in standard

steep narwhal
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your hand just gets filled up with 3 mana barrels and they are so hard to play

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whoever made this "buff" must have never played the deck

vestal knot
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they really wanted to fuck with mage

weary steppe
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It’s hilarious they were like “oh we can’t buff one of the most irrelevant cards in mage”

wraith edge
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In world where we had better discard cards, I can understand the change

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miniset will save us COPIUM

steep narwhal
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i highly doubt it will

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honestly this has to be one of the dumbest changes theyve done this year

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just revert barrel

normal quail
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I would love to be on the decision making team at Blizzard who comes up with this stuff. Don’t even have to play the game to do your job. “Players like sludge? Ok let’s just give it a minor damage and mana bump so it’s not too disruptive to other decks” sounds good on paper right

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Sounds like the easiest job in the world

uncut mason
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Felosiphical Destruction

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

Year of the Wolf

2x (1) Flame Imp

2x (1) Tour Guide

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

2x (1) Void Virtuoso

1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn

2x (2) Baritone Imp

2x (2) Crescendo

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (3) Furnace Fuel

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

2x (3) Trolley Problem

2x (4) Crazed Conductor

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

1x (5) Symphony of Sins

1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir

1x (8) Gigafin

1x (9) Sargeras, the Destroyer

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This list is the nuts

normal quail
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Not enough discard power

uncut mason
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hmm?

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nah you dont care abt that

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You just play minions and go face lol

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trade every once in a blue moon

normal quail
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Sludge is useless in hand now so you gotta be able to discard

uncut mason
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meh

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It hasnt bothered me with this list lol

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Might be too worried about sludge i think

normal quail
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Looks all over the place to me, not sure if its trying to be control, if it is it’s missing some basic control cards

steep narwhal
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What rank are you playing it at though?

normal quail
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I do have a renathal reno control deck that I have been playing that is pretty decent. Games are a total slog and take like 20-30 mins each but it has answers for pretty much everything. Can post it if anyone is interested.

wraith edge
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Reno with sludge?

steep narwhal
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### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 9480
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flustered Librarian
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# 🟨 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟪 2x (2) Impending Catastrophe
# 🟦 2x (2) Vile Library
# ⬜ 2x (3) Fiendish Circle
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟦 2x (4) Mischievous Imp
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (6) Imp King Rafaam
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
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steep narwhal
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imps might have to be the way. but this struggles into control decks like warrior

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otherwise feels good

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only other hard part is if you don't get board early and Naga DH has a tempoish blindeye or rogue drops the 3/6 legendary

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miniset needs to give warlock some "Discover a card from hand to discard"

vestal knot
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[[chamber of viscidus]] to core and we're cooking

steep narwhal
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yeah that was the card I was thinking of

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since I think ive seen it in duels

bleak snow
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Fucking imagine having that in Standard... I wish.

normal quail
vestal knot
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it's reach for the imp deck

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and imps enable impending catastrophe

steep narwhal
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Crescendo goes well with popgar and sludge to clear board for barrels. So it’s a lot of imps with that

vestal knot
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it's kinda crazy how warlock has no good card draw somehow

steep narwhal
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And yeah the otk combo really lacks draw

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Like the VS list ran Magatha. But that’s worse with 3 mana barrels

normal quail
steep narwhal
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Yeah unfortunately

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I don’t really want to run time tampering and Finley only good if you clear the bottom of your deck

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Which maybe I could try that

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I’m not sure if furnance fuel is worth or not but trying it for now

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One other thing with imps is they are good at clearing tokens so your barrels hit big minions or face

weary steppe
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You must jest! We have 4/5 titans in standard, sir.

bleak snow
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Nah we just gotta over buff the favorite class... Rogue...

steep narwhal
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So i feel like furnance fuel isnt good

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it overdraws me a bunch

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maybe ill try Insanity lol

bleak snow
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Welp. See you after the mini set. Copium.

cyan tangle
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yeah

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i wasn’t gonna poo poo the deck and maybe there’s something there. and i did go positive with it

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but there’s meta conditions that make me nervous

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reno wasn’t nerfed and plague dk which people think counters reno really does quite counter us

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i’m not very optimistic for warlock right now

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hopefully zacho sees something exciting in this vein

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oh.

steep narwhal
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yeah plague dk just destroys the deck

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and naga DH does too

cyan tangle
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here’s supporters chat leak for ya

steep narwhal
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terrible

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awful

bleak snow
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Lol

uncut mason
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Is it good or bad

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No need to blot it out tbh

steep narwhal
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Its obv bad lol

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they clued it too abvoe that

normal quail
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They killed this deck. Fucking Blizzard man

steep narwhal
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I almost want to make a reddit thread asking for dust refunds

normal quail
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Bruh I have a solid Reno control lock deck to sell u tho

steep narwhal
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Feno is trying sludge lock

normal quail
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Average game time only 22 mi utes

steep narwhal
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but hes going to go like 2-0 and call it amazing

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when you need to play like 15 and realize it auto losest to plague DK, naga dh

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any big control deck

normal quail
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Does Blizzard even play this game? Legitimately confused how they thought this would help sludge players

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We needed 1 mana sludge

steep narwhal
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yeah tbh a 1 mana 2 dmg would have been better

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they dont want to do 1 mana cause of rainbow

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just make the tram guy 2 mana then..

wraith edge
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I may have semi-cooked

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still testing

normal quail
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Either 1 mana 3 dmg or 2 mana 4 dmg. What we got was shit

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Not the fun sludge type of shit but shit shit

bleak snow
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They are rogue simps. We need a warlock enjoyer on t5

steep narwhal
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warlock has been bad for so long too

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its only playable decks were like chad or Symphony - Sarg tutor

bleak snow
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Cowards.

normal quail
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Chad is still probably the most viable warlock deck but man do I hate playing it lol

steep narwhal
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yeah for sure with more mage nerfs theres less reverbs too

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since very few are on mage now

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its mainly just Rogue/Plague DK somehow too

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ive faced so many plague dks today probably targetting reno and all the sludge locks

bleak snow
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I mean it’s a tier 1 deck

steep narwhal
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yeah you didnt need the sludges to win

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they just helped seal it

normal quail
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Yea I’ve been playing against tons of plague dk and I’ve been fuckin blasting em with my treant druid deck

steep narwhal
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now i feel i need steamcleaner

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but steam cleaner in a more aggro tempo deck is so blah

wraith edge
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Aight, it's kitchen folks. 2-0 and a dream

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### Warlock
# Cost: 5940
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flame Imp
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flustered Librarian
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Dryscale Deputy
# 🟪 2x (2) Impending Catastrophe
# 🟦 1x (3) Encroaching Insanity
# ⬜ 2x (3) Scourge Supplies
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# 🟪 2x (9) Imprisoned Horror
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wraith edge
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Sludge adjacent I'm afraid

steep narwhal
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lol yeah ive moved to that

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saw this on d0nkey

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### Insanity Warlock
# Cost: 10500
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Chaotic Consumption
# 🟨 1x (1) Devourer of Souls
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# 🟨 1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# 🟦 2x (2) Defile
# ⬜ 2x (2) Gold Panner
# 🟪 2x (2) Shallow Grave
# 🟦 2x (3) Encroaching Insanity
# ⬜ 2x (3) Scourge Supplies
# ⬜ 2x (3) Shadowborn
# 🟪 1x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# 🟨 1x (5) Lady Darkvein
# 🟦 1x (6) Doomkin
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steep narwhal
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your list looks better

wraith edge
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Still tinkering

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I think you want a low curve as possible

steep narwhal
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Do you run darkvein for potential otk?

bleak snow
wraith edge
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Fracking hard to thin out deck and find 2 x Creschendo + Popgar

bleak snow
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Copium warlock.

normal quail
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Fatigue imp sludge lock haha

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I respect the effort

wraith edge
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I have terrible news

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I've reached the very low point of adding Snowflipper Penguin to my deck

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### Warlock
# Cost: 5080
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (0) Snowflipper Penguin
# 🟪 2x (1) Chaotic Consumption
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 1x (1) Glacial Shard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (1) Voidwalker
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# 🟪 2x (2) Impending Catastrophe
# ⬜ 2x (2) Thornveil Tentacle
# ⬜ 2x (3) Fiendish Circle
# ⬜ 2x (3) Scourge Supplies
# ⬜ 2x (3) Shadowborn
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9268842


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wraith edge
#

Basic idea is to draw through your deck to 'the combo' and destroy most of your deck in the process

steep narwhal
#

Is the combo just fatigue draw then play crescendo?

wraith edge
#

Void Virtuoso (1) + Pop'gar (4) + Fiendish Circle (3 1) + Impending Catastrophe's (2 0) + Crescendo's (~~2 ~~ 0) + Sludge's (3 1)

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6 to 8 mana combo, for potentially a lot of damage

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Only shadow cards are the Impending Catastrophe's for the Shadowborn's

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Penguin is in because I'm struggling to dump hand enough

steep narwhal
#

hmm

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you need desk imp

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whats your record with it now?

wraith edge
#

Haven’t tried this version

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Tweaked it from my old build which I was 2-1 with

rare moat
#

Sludge needs to be an explosive aggro deck

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Like under turn 5

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I'm replacing the discard cards and leaving just trolley

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The plays need to go lower

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This is all I know for now. Fatigue is not gonna work in the aggro version

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Fatigue is a combo angle in a weird deck where you have like 2 or 3 combos you can do in one game

bleak snow
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From a warlock main I know.

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9-2 in top 1k

steep narwhal
#

I was running close to that but not salesmen/trolley

rare moat
#

Can they say what a majority of matchups were?

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Here's what I'm cooking bois

#

We gonna pain

vestal knot
#

idk I hate flame imp

rare moat
#

Ok flame imp hater idrk what to tell you PepeLa

vestal knot
#

don't need to tell me anything just continue your cook

steep narwhal
#

how many plague dks

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i queue it and immediately plague dk

steep narwhal
#

So I’m 6-2 now with both losses to plague dk

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With that list outlaw posted

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I had cut trolley post patch but that card is too good to cut

normal quail
#

Ok but is it fun to play?

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I’m having a blast w velarok rogue

#

Someone posted this ad well

bleak snow
#

I think he played one game with that deck, won and then tweeted that.

rare moat
#

Bros early game is play 3 1drops and start hitting the button

normal quail
bleak snow
steep narwhal
#

It’s decent to play but not as cool as discard lock would have been

rare moat
#

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pearl radishBOT
# rare moat AAECAaLeBQL52ASAngYOhKAE1PEEzvgFzvoF1/oF5v8F44AGlZcGlpcGl5cGmJcG16IG96MGpqgGAAA=
### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 4920
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flame Imp
# ⬜ 2x (1) Monstrous Form
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# 🟦 2x (2) Celestial Projectionist
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (2) Incorporeal Corporal
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 1x (3) Tome Tampering
# ⬜ 2x (3) Trogg Exile
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟪 2x (9) Imprisoned Horror
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9271079


https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9271079

rare moat
#

This is definitely in the rough but ots gotta be explosive

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I feel like I'm close

#

Trust the chef

rare moat
#

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pearl radishBOT
# rare moat AAECAeLOBgT3zgSxkgXOkgWAngYNhKAE6aAE1PEEmJIFq5IF1/oF2oAGlZcGlpcGl5cGmJcG16IGpqgG...
### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 7140
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flame Imp
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (2) Incorporeal Corporal
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# ⬜ 2x (3) Walking Dead
# 🟦 2x (4) Disciple of Sargeras
# ⬜ 2x (4) Lakkari Felhound
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Commander Ulthok
# 🟦 1x (5) Savage Ymirjar
# 🟦 2x (5) Soul Barrage
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9271192


https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9271192

rare moat
#

This other one is my emergency recook

#

I attempted to smooth out the discard issues again

#

Ignore ulthok until I get some data on it lol I was just messing around and forgot to take him back out

#

Whenever I get the opponent low I play ulthok to make them concede. It only works as a finisher though

cold sundial
#

Ulthok pepeWut

normal quail
#

1-1

rare moat
#

Ulthok peak gaming

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Nah JK if he was good he'd be insta nerfed it's extremely toxic

rare moat
#

Everything else you wanna go for making an early imprisoned horror

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If you have waste remover though of course you can keep the dispenser and go the sludge angle because you got a sick curve

normal quail
#

Corporal into forge is so good

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Best combo

cold sundial
#

I've been saying that forever

#

corporeal, forge, anub, waste remover, STAR FISH

normal quail
#

Oh man you know how to turn up the heat 🥵🥵

steep narwhal
#

Starfish also could be good with Naga priest and rogue illusionist in the meta

rare moat
steep narwhal
#

Your deck only has 4 spells so would Magatha work

rare moat
#

I was considering it

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It's really not a bad idea

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I just haven't gotten around to playing her yet

#

Isn't she a juicy 5/5 too

#

[[Magatha]]

rare moat
#

Hell yea she's the cook for this

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In the second list

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Also it's funny into one of our bad mstchups which is plague DK, you can clog their hand with plagues

normal quail
#

2-1 first list

#

Love a good aggro deck

rare moat
rare moat
# normal quail 2-1 first list

I suggest trying the discard again. I did some testing and I think I got the kinks out. With less spells and a magatha in there it's feeling like old times

#

Oh yea when you copy it just put magatha there instead of ulthok I forgot to switch him

normal quail
#

I like the addition of walking dead

#

2-0

rare moat
#

It was meant to give lakkari something else to hit so its ok if we miss sludge

#

Putting a thing on board for free is better than drawing 2

#

Furnace fuel felt too much like a "miss" so I took it out

normal quail
#

3-0 at diamond 5. Didn’t even notice the absence of fuel. There are more < 3 cost cards for lakkari to discard, but hasn’t been a problem to play those

bleak snow
#

I can't even keep track of what you nerds are trying.

normal quail
#

This

#

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pearl radishBOT
# normal quail AAECAeLOBgT3zgSxkgXOkgWAngYNhKAE6aAE1PEEmJIFq5IF1/oF2oAGlZcGlpcGl5cGmJcG16IGpqgG...
### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 7140
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flame Imp
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# ⬜ 2x (2) Incorporeal Corporal
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# ⬜ 2x (3) Walking Dead
# 🟦 2x (4) Disciple of Sargeras
# ⬜ 2x (4) Lakkari Felhound
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Commander Ulthok
# 🟦 1x (5) Savage Ymirjar
# 🟦 2x (5) Soul Barrage
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9271192


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normal quail
#

With Magatha instead of Ulthok

#

I have a dilemma of when to play forge in this deck

#

Yes it’s important to get 7/7s out, but it’s so critical with this deck to keep the pressure on every turn

#

Playing forge early gives the opponent the opportunity to board fill which is the death knell of this deck

steep narwhal
#

How are you doing with it now?

#

Has anyhone actually beat plague dk if they get the weapon on 1?

#

i havent yet

normal quail
#

4-3 I think

#

Just dropped a couple in a row vs warriors

opal cobalt
#

XL warrior is very unfavored

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and becomming more popular

normal quail
#

And lost again to a DK haha

#

4-4

steep narwhal
#

Yeah i still like the list outlaw posted earlier

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Im 8-3 with two losses to DK

#

eating rogues though

opal cobalt
#

which list, the one with the celestials?

steep narwhal
#

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pearl radishBOT
# steep narwhal AAECAf0GApvkBICeBg7moAT/2QSB2gSr6gTHwgXIwgXdwgXmxQWFjgaVlwaWlwaXlwaEngamqAYAAA==
### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6960
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flustered Librarian
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟪 2x (2) Impending Catastrophe
# 🟦 2x (2) Vile Library
# ⬜ 2x (3) Fiendish Circle
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (6) Imp King Rafaam
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9267820


https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9267820

opal cobalt
#

oh ok

normal quail
#

DK seems like auto loss

steep narwhal
#

ya

#

ive only beat plague with the control otk version that runs two steamcleaners

bleak snow
#

Hopefully I can actually get in some games tomorrow want to try the list I posted.

steep narwhal
#

Yeah never mind lost 3 in a row.

bleak snow
#

We just ignore the data we don’t agree with. 5Head

cold sundial
#

queued into badgamelol running sludge. didn't catch the full list, but waste remover burnt astalor and ignis

#

I died to forge into waste remover tempo

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I don't think there were any imps there

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but this is top 200 sludge gaming

nocturne elk
#

Dude popgar into crescendo is reno

nocturne elk
#

Nvm this idiot still died

rare moat
#

When you get him down and start killing its your game

#

But if they get the rusher down its joever because every play from that point is an answer

#

Also don't play unforged disciple, if they aoe and you miss that dmg you lost way too much time

rare moat
#

Well my worst matchup is rogue, the scamming is an issue

nocturne elk
#

Dust assassination

late spear
#

Chefs what's the list of choice Hmm

#

Here is my budget

rare moat
late spear
#

idk

#

I replied to the decklist I copied

rare moat
late spear
#

Dust Assassination 🎯

rare moat
#

I think this list is the better direction

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But either way you wanna just nobrain waste remover on 4

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Most of those games you will win

#

The whole cooking is about what to do when you don't draw him

late spear
#

Fatigue Package?

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Lady Darkvein + Cresendo

rare moat
#

Fatigue buildup takes too many turns. That setup is a combo and for that you'll want a deck not focused on aggro that doesn't run waste remover

#

With this deck you are slamming the opponent with rude pressure on turns 3 through 6, which means your first fatigue is too slow

late spear
#

I think I'll commit Dust Assassination

#

The two cards I'm missing aren't even that bad

rare moat
#

What is dust assassination lol

#

Keep seeing this word

late spear
#

Spending large amounts of dust

rare moat
#

I mean I'm playing only sludge

#

It at least holds up for me

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Oh BTW don't use ulthok lol that was an accident, put in magatha, or if you don't have it you can use probably monstrous form

late spear
#

I mean yeah

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I got Magatha

#

Thoughts on Tome

rare moat
#

You don't use sludge really until you find tampering

#

Until then you play stats

#

But it does make a good finishing move

#

Fatigue might work with that

austere quarry
#

Ok so I will TLDR this chat in one brennan lee mulligan gif

weary steppe
#

BLeeM!!!!

austere quarry
rare moat
#

Anyone who gives up on sludge is a coward

austere quarry
#

Can you really give up on something if you never gave in

rare moat
#

Coward

cold sundial
#

I was mostly here to play with trains

normal quail
#

They don’t want their game to become a meme

rare moat
#

They want it to exist and it still doesn't

#

I bet they buff it again still next patch lol

rare moat
#

I.e. the original deck in the post

steep narwhal
#

@bleak snow heres my chadlock with sludge list

rare moat
#

I'll probably try it

steep narwhal
#

well i lost to a mage with oduble reverb and double robot

#

on t6

rare moat
#

Seems like you want a big hand of sludge which doesn't go great with doom

#

Doom also isn't great with Chad drawing too many undead

steep narwhal
#

With the amount of plague DKs im seeing I think im going to run at least one steamcleaner in my decks

#

idk if im just super unlucky but ive faced so many

late spear
#

@rare moat the Sludge deck pretty fire tbh

steep narwhal
#

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pearl radishBOT
# steep narwhal AAECAf0GBP/hBJvkBICeBoSeBg3moAT/2QSB2gSr6gTHwgXIwgXdwgXO+gWFjgaVlwaWlwaXlwamqAYA...
### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 7680
# Format: Standard
# ⬜ 2x (1) Flustered Librarian
# 🟦 1x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟪 2x (2) Impending Catastrophe
# 🟦 2x (2) Vile Library
# ⬜ 2x (3) Fiendish Circle
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟦 1x (5) Steamcleaner
# 🟨 1x (6) Imp King Rafaam
# 🟪 2x (9) Imprisoned Horror
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9293406


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steep narwhal
#

I like horrors in the fatigue sludge list

#

saw feno running it

late spear
#

True

#

Yeah iunno if I wanna murder more of my dust funds 🤔
Imp package does look interesting tho

#

Smth to fall back on when you don’t have the Sludge

steep narwhal
#

hard to tell if the deck is good or not i just beat rogues with sludge imp lock

#

if they dont high roll and even then

late spear
#

Wait did Velarok buff make Thief Rogue good again?

#

Lmao

vestal knot
#

velarok makes velarok rogue good

#

the other thief cards are still bad

cold sundial
#

I feel like the suicide list feno is playing could use some kind of life steal

normal quail
#

I played against a sludge imp lock earlier and won pretty easily with Highlander warlock

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I’m not that impressed with the imps

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Everyone seems to be going that route tho

#

Highlander lock continues to be underrated imo, it only makes up 5% of warlocks according to hsreplay, but it can be a solid deck and fun to tinker with if you are OK with long (20 minute) game times

rare moat
#

The counter is literally find remover on 4

rare moat
#

I got beat up by elemental shaman, now I'm mad

normal quail
cyan tangle
rare moat
cyan tangle
#

lol

steep narwhal
#

Wahts the most recent good chad lock list

#

might try dong sludge non fatigue

rare moat
#

I haven't seen Chad for a really long time

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I don't know what the official deck is

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But putting it in sludge is complicated

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Without waste remover you're really removing the whole point of the package

steep narwhal
#

lol ill leave it

steep narwhal
#

on d0nkey scourge supply looks decent for draw

vestal knot
#

it felt okay yea

steep narwhal
#

the forge location just so strong with the 7/7 but its hard figuring out what other big stats to run

vestal knot
#

but with no discard support it's just a furnace fuel

steep narwhal
#

most lists seem to be going for a smaller curve

wraith edge
#

The only time Scourge Supplies should ever be good is if the discard hits something useful

#

and the current discard payoffs are pretty shitty

vestal knot
#

there's not enough even if you include the garbage

#

it's fuel, walking dead and suffocating shadows

steep narwhal
#

just this looks promising on d0nkey

#

walking dead loots bad

#

though

vestal knot
#

cuz it's only good off supplies

#

nothing else discards minions from hand

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and u don't want to play a 3 mana 2/5 taunt

steep narwhal
#

if you discard off supplies do stats count that as "drawn"

vestal knot
#

you do draw the cards before discarding one so probably

rare moat
rare moat
#

If you wanna draw cards draw them for free with Furnace fuel

#

Otherwise I believe it's best to leave out any draw unless you're control version

steep narwhal
#

Are there any hsreplay stats of sludge

uncut mason
#

Sludge-To-Win

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

Year of the Wolf

2x (1) Felstring Harp

2x (1) Miracle Salesman

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

2x (2) Baritone Imp

2x (2) Crescendo

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (2) Incorporeal Corporal

2x (3) Forge of Wills

2x (3) Furnace Fuel

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

2x (3) Trolley Problem

2x (4) Crazed Conductor

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

2x (5) Steamcleaner

1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir

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To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

#

This hasn't been bad for me so far

steep narwhal
#

the one problem with forge is that if you only running the 7/7

#

its really good with that but not otherwise

#

so do you run monstrous form?

wraith edge
#

I still feel [[Incorporeal Corporal]] could be good

wraith edge
#

Comes online T3 rather than T4 with forge too which adds to the pressure

#

Not just the healing, you need to damage yourself quick enough to be relevent

#

Like without double flame imp, it's not easy

rare moat
#

Soup de la Soup

Class: Warlock

Format: Standard

Year of the Wolf

2x (1) Fracking

2x (1) Miracle Salesman

2x (1) Monstrous Form

2x (1) Tram Mechanic

1x (1) Void Virtuoso

2x (2) Baritone Imp

2x (2) Crescendo

2x (2) Disposal Assistant

2x (3) Forge of Wills

2x (3) Furnace Fuel

2x (3) Sludge on Wheels

1x (3) Tome Tampering

2x (3) Trolley Problem

2x (4) Crazed Conductor

1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid

2x (4) Waste Remover

1x (5) Symphony of Sins

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#

I think this list has the right balance

#

Feels smooth and simple

rare moat
#

This is cool for the list

#

That might actually go in the imprisoned horror list

vestal knot
#

I added murlocula to my deck and it insta won a game

vestal knot
#

it's pretty funny how good a raw waste remover is against plague dk

#

if they don't draw the nuts it ends the game on the spot

vestal knot
#

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pearl radishBOT
# vestal knot AAECAf0GBKiKBI+fBOWwBMKlBQ2xnwSlkgWFkwWdpAXFpAX0xgX6+QXu/QWXlwaEngbEngbXogb3owYA...
### Chadlock
# Cost: 6680
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Chaotic Consumption
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Mortal Coil
# 🟨 1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Spirit Bomb
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 1x (3) Hellfire
# 🟦 2x (3) Mortal Eradication
# ⬜ 2x (3) Plague Eruption
# ⬜ 2x (3) Scourge Supplies
# ⬜ 2x (3) Silvermoon Arcanist
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟪 2x (5) Amorphous Slime
# 🟨 1x (5) Taelan Fordring
# 🟨 1x (10) Thaddius, Monstrosity
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9297296


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vestal knot
#

insane's thaddius otk

rare moat
#

The taelan cook OMEGALUL

bleak snow
rare moat
#

My dude put salt pepper and some zesty sauce

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I dont..

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I don't see

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Defile

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And I'm going to panic

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Where is defile

vestal knot
#

defile isn't odd

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and you use plague eruption to activate the wheels

rare moat
#

Why is this dude famous

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Well it's a stream deck

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You do nothing until combo

vestal knot
#

yea this is a top legend deck I'd assume

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but it can kill pretty early

rare moat
#

I mean I think he's been playing top 100

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He's good at doing combos so yeah

steep narwhal
#

ive played it twice and had the combo on 6

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but i fucked up cause of animation times

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i think i need to check if my animation speeds are maxed in oiptions

bleak snow
#

News flash if your opponent doesn’t play a proactive plan a Chadlock deck will kill you if they cheat out Chad,

normal quail
#

The d0nkey list apparently has a very good wr

#

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pearl radishBOT
# normal quail AAECAf0GBP/hBPnGBYWOBoCeBg3HwgXIwgXdwgXmxQXX+gXm/wWVlwaWlwaXlwaYlwaEngb3owamqAYA...
### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 6300
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 1x (1) Miracle Salesman
# ⬜ 2x (1) Monstrous Form
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# ⬜ 2x (1) Void Virtuoso
# ⬜ 2x (2) Baritone Imp
# 🟦 2x (2) Crescendo
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟪 2x (4) Crazed Conductor
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟦 1x (5) Steamcleaner
# 🟨 1x (5) Symphony of Sins
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normal quail
#

I have not tried this list

cold sundial
#

so much sludge in the top 200

#

latest inclusion for the otk deck seems to be treasure guard

cold sundial
#

is there any way to tell if chad is odd or even?

#

I thought chad was odd on even mana crystals

vale summit
#

Chad is always odd from slime

#

Otherwise ye its odd on even turns

fresh oxide
#

imp package bricks so much tbh

rare moat
#

It's fatigue

fresh oxide
#

nah i mean the location, impending catastrophe, fiend circle

#

the number of occasions when you lack imps and have 3-4 imp synergy cards clogging your hand is quite high for me

rare moat
#

I know

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Imp hS a problem with not pulling the nuts

fresh oxide
#

sure occasional surprise lethal from location is cool

rare moat
#

I'm saying you gotta run fatigue

fresh oxide
#

i do as well

rare moat
#

Not the imps, just fatigue

fresh oxide
#

fatigue package as is is cool now since crescendo is 0 mana with popo

rare moat
#

Also you need it against aggro decks

rare moat
#

I just beat a tree druid with just fatigue, never pulled a sludge card lol

rare moat
#

It's just all the best cards for sludge put together

fresh oxide
#

tampering sounds like it solos some matchups

rare moat
#

When you have a big hand of sludge there's no way you get it all out

#

So tampering ends it

fresh oxide
#

1 copy right?

rare moat
#

Yea

fresh oxide
#

crafting 2 copies would be a red flag to playing the deck lol

rare moat
#

The day we really are playing 2 tome, it's time to nerf warlock because we're winning the game by trying to discard our hand asap

fresh oxide
#

i'm playing like shit but sludgelock is like a drug

steep narwhal
#

The chad version?

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its so addicting

cold sundial
#

What part about drawing your deck and doing 8 damage for zero mana isn’t appealing

rare moat
#

I haven't tried chad

#

I'm not really convinced about it so far

#

I've been doing sludge fatigue with good cards

#

That deck actually has a lot of 2 drops, I'm considering trying greedy partner since you can do a lot by getting ahead of the curve. Our midgame is geega busted

steep narwhal
#

yeah i thoguht about greedy too

#

i actually just like normal sludge decks too tbh those are fun. so if they nerf chad so be it

rare moat
#

Imagine nerfing chad again

steep narwhal
#

I cant stop playing it lol

#

this is a stormwind deck

rare moat
steep narwhal
#

wasnt stormwind an apm/OTK meta

#

i didnt play it but seems like thats what people say about it

bleak snow
#

That was Alterac but close enough.

#

All I care about is people actually trying sludge stuff now... Get us some gd data finally.

rare moat
#

Finally the cooking is over

#

We get to see the real deck

#

Bring the stats

bleak snow
#

I think there are two decks. The Chad one probably isn't an actual deck you climb with but it will scratch an itch for some folks.

rare moat
#

I feel like unless sludge becomes tier 1 zacho is gonna scream that it's unplayable

bleak snow
#

Nah we're in tier 2 with this stuff rn.

cold sundial
#

Yeah games going long in alterac was turn 7

rare moat
#

Alterac sounds like it was fun

bleak snow
#

It was one of my favorite metas.

#

Owlock was so cool.

#

Fatiguelock in SW was cool.

rare moat
#

Owl?

cold sundial
#

Siff got nothing on mozaki

rare moat
#

Hoot hoot

#

What's owlock

bleak snow
#

hoot hoot mfer

cold sundial
#

Mithril rod deck

bleak snow
#

you get that DR in the Tamsin Phylactery pool and make a bunch of small imps with that deathrattle

#

and just wipe your board and otk them.

rare moat
bleak snow
#

yep

#

You did that on a full board of 1/1 imps

#

and you could copy it with little Tammy

#

so you could do well into the mid 100's of dmg

cold sundial
#

You could do 150+ face or something dumb

bleak snow
#

yep

#

You could kill a Paladin from full health through their Cariel weapon. Enough said.

#

These are legend stats, so there is definitely a tier 2 deck in there.

rare moat
#

I would have hooted for 4 months straight

#

Fuck cariel

bleak snow
#

yeah all i played back then was owlock and then minelock...

#

blows my mind that there are 1500 games of that silly Chad OTK already

rare moat
#

The taelan cook got me on the floor

bleak snow
#

rofl... yeah...

steep narwhal
#

The taelan deck is def better than 50%

#

its really easy to misplay

bleak snow
rare moat
#

THE FIRST ONE IS MY COOK

#

AHHHH

#

Wait

#

Who put tome in there lol

bleak snow
#

I think the Taelen deck is 1000% dependent on your meta. You just kind of die to aggro imo. Paladin still fucks you.

rare moat
#

Like why

steep narwhal
#

i think it might be dif not sure

bleak snow
#

There are like 21ish cards + w/e spice people are trying.

steep narwhal
#

they also arent running the 5/7/7

bleak snow
#

It's looking like the disco package isn't really it.

#

or the sample is just too low.

steep narwhal
#

disco?

bleak snow
#

Ymirjar.

rare moat
#

It's the lowest in the 200s

#

But

steep narwhal
#

o discard

rare moat
#

Still highest

steep narwhal
#

Im still not sure if i like disciple

#

she seemed low in the stats before

bleak snow
#

this was the one that Janos wasrunning that's more minion focused.

#

There's definitely some experimentation.

#

Good thing.

#

F5 next week should have some data.

steep narwhal
#

i think sarg is too high esp without doomkin

rare moat
#

She is kinda slow but if you forge, it can bring you back on the board

steep narwhal
#

idk i feel like with this chadlock deck and aggro treants on the ladder to counter it

#

that sarg might be too slow

rare moat
#

You actually ruin them with fatigue stuff

bleak snow
#

But yeah I'm not seeing any cooks with Ymirjar with at least 50 games.

rare moat
#

The aoe wins games against druid

bleak snow
#

Sure.

#

My eradications were doing 7 per tick last night...

rare moat
#

Wait what

bleak snow
#

This was just the otk version

#

arcanist arcanist, eradication eradication

rare moat
#

Mortal eradication only gets buffed for total by spell dmg

bleak snow
#

yeah that. i was confusing it with the hellfire i played the same turn. lol

rare moat
#

I really wanna make arcanist work

cold sundial
#

Why doesn’t it work

bleak snow
#

It works fine?

#

God I hate looking at HSR after being able to drill down easier on d0nkey's site.

rare moat
#

I'm beatdown versions it doesnt work with the tempo strategy

steep narwhal
#

I know kibler had Thalnos

bleak snow
#

lol wut

rare moat
bleak snow
#

small sample nm

rare moat
#

And the 6 mana 6/6 Quickdraw deal 6

rare moat
bleak snow
#

lol yeah... i joked about it at some point but that data was hiding she's only been Kept 4 times lol

#

it'd be funny if she made it into a deck at some point.

rare moat
#

Hsr laggy af too

bleak snow
#

It's not hiding stuff behind a paywall for one, but you can get pretty granular on stuff.

steep narwhal
#

D0nkey also lets you look at@stats below 200 games

#

Which is obv high variance but it’s still nice

bleak snow
#

yep

steep narwhal
#

And he quickly update for patches

rare moat
#

At least you get to see what's happening

#

More info is better

bleak snow
#

I may just cut off my HSR and give d0nkey my money lol

rare moat
#

Zacho was saying how HSR is damn near abandoned anyway

#

I'd do it

#

Donkey smart dude

bleak snow
#

Yep. He usually will add a feature you request if it's feasible.

rare moat
#

Is he the one behind Firestone

bleak snow
#

Nah that's a different dev.

#

d0nkey's site takes all the data from HDT and Firestone though and he does his own stuff with it.

rare moat
#

What's the site called

rare moat
bleak snow
#

Change her to battle cry then we cooking ;P

#

but yeah... who knows... maybe she ends up being fringe.

#

Would be funny to mill or discard some opponents pieces.

rare moat
#

You can make your opponent lose a full third of their deck

normal quail
steep narwhal
#

Okay i climbed from the dumpster back to top 1k with chad otk

#

On a 10 win streak

#

Ins4ne list feels like potential perfect 30 already

fresh oxide
#

i got completely with chad on 6 though

steep narwhal
#

only card that might be cuttable is one mortal eradication

normal quail
#

I refuse to play chad lol

steep narwhal
#

well a few more hours for this to be the xmas holiday deck

#

unless they can do server bans next week

normal quail
#

Wdym?

steep narwhal
#

I think this deck will just terrorize the meta over the next 2 weeks

#

once people learn how to play it

bleak snow
#

Step 1 cheat Chad out. There are no other steps.

normal quail
#

Looks like it has the worst WR out of all the d0nkey sludge decks that outlaw sent

steep narwhal
#

theres a lot of stuff you have to do on OTK turn sometimes

#

and with animation canceling

bleak snow
#

Sure I get it. I’m kind of memeing but that’s kind of it really.

#

I’m like the worlds foremost Chad enjoyer lol

steep narwhal
#

its better than the druid version because warlock has early anti aggro stuff

#

i think it beats rogue but my small sample size i think like 80% had shambler/illusionist on 3

normal quail
#

Is owllock a thing in wild? Bummed I missed out on that

steep narwhal
#

warlock actually seems to be the good counter, the 4/7/7 versio with location just beats the combo deck

bleak snow
#

We don’t talk about Druid.

normal quail
rare moat
#

Guys no they specifically asked us not to make it an OTK deck

normal quail
rare moat
#

@bleak snow dude the OTK list might look crazy but I just watched insane play it, and once you play Chad suddenly everything becomes omega 5head cuz it's free

#

You just casually draw everything you need on turn 6

cedar perch
#

Wtf is animation canceling

#

Is there a secret method to skip Finley animation

#

The deck is pretty fast otk

normal quail
#

What’s the OTK deck list

cedar perch
#

My avg win turn over 64 games is 7.3

vestal knot
normal quail
steep narwhal
#

This is mine so far

#

i threw a lot of early games too

#

and most of the rogues keep having grave + illusionist on 3 somehow

#

if they don thave that i just win

#

Warlock losses were going 2nd in the mirror or vs the aggro version. And the 7/7 just destroys otk if you cant clear

#

Naga DH/Aggro Sludge lock/aggro druid seem best counters so far

#

rogue is random the d0nkey data has this deck slightly ahead

bleak snow
#

ROFL... jfc dude play less Hearthstone ffs

steep narwhal
#

Its addicting lol

#

i hadnt played for like three weeks

bleak snow
#

So is cocaine.

steep narwhal
#

before this patch

#

hated reno meta. now a fun deck that wins before t8

rare moat
#

Who knows how to do addition I forgot

#

But I'm sure that's a lot of hearthstone

bleak snow
#

Don't worry we'll be back to Reno meta.. This meta is shit too.

steep narwhal
#

i like this meta more but i love combo decks

bleak snow
#

I like combo decks too. This still ain't it.

rare moat
#

I mean if you can play it

#

The deck is good

steep narwhal
#

Yeah until people start running cult neophytes its super strong

#

rat has to get lucky

bleak snow
#

Nah my "This still ain't it" wasn't about the deck. It's about the meta

cedar perch
steep narwhal
#

yeah my avg game length is 5.1 minutes

rare moat
#

Yeah for me so far it's just rogue enjoyers

steep narwhal
#

its really fast

#

bubt if this picks up i think aggro lock still good, but really want to run forge

rare moat
#

Rogue enjoyers and the rest is just wild format, totally random

steep narwhal
#

two 7/7s just beats this lock deck

rare moat
#

Yea fax

cedar perch
#

Reverb is an interesting option

steep narwhal
#

ive seen reverb sometimes

cedar perch
#

It’s an extra arcanist on the otk turn and can be a decent anti aggro tool

steep narwhal
#

i think you could drop a molten erad

#

that feels weakest

#

i like hellfire

#

its great with weapon and also can use for final burn

#

but molten feals weak to me sometimes. really good into paladin or early but sucks later

rare moat
#

Half the combo is board clear while you beat up your wheels

#

Then you spam the sludge and Finley for the rest of the sludge

steep narwhal
#

i was also thinking what about the 3 mana rez spell

#

or the 3 mana healer

rare moat
#

I know I was born for warlock because when I went to make the combo deck since I didn't have the code, I memorized the whole deck after seeing 2 games

normal quail
#

Just flipped on insane on twitch to see him lose 2 in a row with the otk chadlock

rare moat
normal quail
#

If you don’t get slime and Thad by turn 6 ur done

normal quail
#

So basically you need slime, thad, 1 wheels, arcanist and eruption all in your hand at once to make it really work

vestal knot
#

otk decks do in fact lose when you don't draw the cards you need

cold sundial
#

You only really need to get Thad down to start

#

Arcanist and wheels can be picked up along the way

cedar perch
#

And you have lethal with slime thaddius and removal like 80-90% of the time

steep narwhal
#

you usually have the combo by t6/t7

#

fracking also works well with finley, you can frack to search for them and if they arent there it does help a finley later

#

sometimes i just ifnley into slike/thad

cedar perch
#

You have to have a really bad hand not to be able to draw into lethal after thaddius

steep narwhal
#

yeah the combo just sometimes involves not using plague on your sludge dudes but coil/bomb

cold sundial
#

There’s also some experiments going on with the deck

steep narwhal
#

i feel like ins4nes list is pretty close, some are trying reverb/naga taunt

cold sundial
#

Yeah mostly reverb and guard

#

Are what I was seeing

steep narwhal
#

reverb is funny for the mirror if they taelan

#

you reverb taelan

#

someone did it to me and we just didnt attack to not trigger each others taelan

#

then i drew a coil and could kill it into slime/thad

cold sundial
bleak snow
#

I've seen Acolyte too.

cold sundial
#

That seems like it might be too greedy

#

At least reverb and guard have some defensive capabilities

#

Or maybe it’s brilliant

late spear
#

Like I hold a buncha Sludge in hand and fwiw I'd only play/destroy/discard a few at a time

steep narwhal
#

acoylyte is too risky for overdrawing

#

ins4ne tried it

late spear
#

Savage Ymirjar goes for one Tome Tampering right

#

Like, I'd love to discard instead of manually playing Soul Barrage

rare moat
#

You always find it all

bleak snow
normal quail
#

Mmk yeah Im getting the hang of it. Turn 6 is a sweat to get all the cards out in time

#

Finley animation is so slow

steep narwhal
#

Insane dropped finley

#

im hesistant to drop him cause hes helped me a bunch and i can use fracking to search instead

#

but on d0nkey stats finley low

normal quail
#

Did insane drop him just because of the animation time lol

normal quail
#

Starting watching insane on twitch again and he drops 3 in a row lmaooo he’s 1-5 with this deck while I’ve been watching

rare moat
#

You have all this discard already

#

If you are playing the deck like you're supposed to, you never have a reason to play tome

#

Ymirjar is correct

bleak snow
#

Killing a druid from 52... chefs kiss

steep narwhal
#

alright yeah reverb is good

#

but i just cant cut finley yet

#

i cut one molten

#

3 1 ofs lol

bleak snow
#

yeah it's 28 cards and 2 flex slots for w/e you like.

bleak snow
#

Looks like a @cold sundial kinda deck.

austere quarry
#

lmao

vale summit
#

the 1 of defile goes crazy

bleak snow
vale summit
#

if you sent me this code with 0 other info i would've insta known it was a rank 1 asia deck

bleak snow
#

lol fr tho

austere quarry
#

bro was cooking hard

vale summit
#

symphony steamcleaner GigaChad

austere quarry
#

1 of forge

austere quarry
#

where reno

bleak snow
#

lol low key just make it a reno deck.

austere quarry
#

speaking of sludge

vale summit
#

arena gaming POGGIES

bleak snow
#

One Forge.

austere quarry
#

sludge on wheels is so broken in arena holy fuck

bleak snow
#

Looks like you misplayed and didn't draft Reno either.

austere quarry
#

prison is better

vale summit
#

ye you spend infinite mana

#

mega op

austere quarry
#

three netherwings

#

mamma mia

normal quail
#

Goddamn is the OTK deck frustrating. Feels amazing when it hits, but man are there a lot of variables that have to hit in the right way to make it possible

#

I don’t know why people were even talking about a server ban, I don’t see anything that would necessitate that lol

#

Then again, Blizzard despises warlock so I guess it is possible

bleak snow
#

I’m sure it’ll be labeled a sentiment outlier too.

#

It is funny how other classes can have OTK’s or cheat infinite mana. 🤷‍♂️

steep narwhal
#

I just remember Zach saying anything that can otk on 6 or earlier gets hit

#

I think back when nature shaman could do it

rare moat
normal quail
#

Like mech rogue

rare moat
#

I need the updated combo deck

#

With the reverbs and whatever else they did to it

normal quail
#

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pearl radishBOT
# normal quail AAECAf0GBKiKBI+fBOWwBMKlBQ2xnwSlkgWFkwWdpAXFpAX0xgX6+QXu/QWXlwaEngbEngbXogb3owYA...
### Chadlock
# Cost: 6680
# Format: Standard
# 🟪 2x (1) Chaotic Consumption
# 🟪 2x (1) Felstring Harp
# 🟦 2x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Mortal Coil
# 🟨 1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Spirit Bomb
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 1x (3) Hellfire
# 🟦 2x (3) Mortal Eradication
# ⬜ 2x (3) Plague Eruption
# ⬜ 2x (3) Scourge Supplies
# ⬜ 2x (3) Silvermoon Arcanist
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟪 2x (5) Amorphous Slime
# 🟨 1x (5) Taelan Fordring
# 🟨 1x (10) Thaddius, Monstrosity
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9297296


https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9297296

normal quail
#

Only change afaik was swapping reverb in for Finley

rare moat
#

Nah ins4ane had Finley and reverb

steep narwhal
#

Did he add Finley back in

rare moat
#

Lemme see if his bot has updated list

normal quail
#

Must’ve been recently then

steep narwhal
#

When I watched it was Finley for reverb

normal quail
#

Same

steep narwhal
#

I went with one mortal eradication

rare moat
#

So then how do you spam the sludges on the bottom

#

Without Finley

normal quail
#

Fracking

rare moat
#

Oh ok

#

So you just have to keep them ig

normal quail
#

Yeah

#

Or get 2 wheels in which case it doesn’t matter

#

2 wheels = 1 wheels + Finley or fracking

rare moat
#

So you just want 1 reverb

normal quail
#

That’s what he’s running, idk I’ve still been using the Finley deck

steep narwhal
#

With reverb 3 arcanists requires just 3 sludges to otk if no enemies up

normal quail
#

That’s a good point

steep narwhal
#

But I just have liked Finley so far but maybe he is droppable

#

I’ve Finleyed on 5 to get slime and Chad next turn

glass gulch
#

reverb seems a little silly unless you see a lot of rogue or smth

#

finley feels very nice from the small amount of games I've played

bleak snow
#

Reverb also guarantees you get through a big dood if they have one.

#

The best list on donkey rn runs double hellfire no Finley or reverb… so we’ll see what starts looking like the final couple cards when more data comes in.

glass gulch
#

well, I'm probably bringing down the wr of the finley lists lol

vestal knot
#

I'm getting up the bronze-gold stats cuz I'm playing on the asia server

bleak snow
#

You’re not the only one. It wasn’t even over 50% on donkeys site.

#

Finley did look like one of the worst cards in stats though.

glass gulch
#

reverb also helps mortal coil and consumpiton ig

#

I'll try it

cold sundial
#

Hawkstrider ends it for sludge decks

rare moat
#

Is the asian dude actually smarter than us

#

Are you legit getting a +1+1 on a wheels or what's the goal here

uncut mason
#

How is sludge looking rn?

normal quail
#

If u like highrolling it’s looking great

cedar perch
# uncut mason How is sludge looking rn?

otk thaddius sludgelock is looking playable but mediocre(~49% on d0nkey), imp/fatigue sludgelock is looking decent(~52% on d0nkey0, control sludgelock is looking decent but low sample size(~51% on d0nkey)

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otk thaddius sludgelock?

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wtf?

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can I get a link to donkey lol

glass gulch
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Control Sludgelock?

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bro I left for a day or two what happened 💀

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Control(From d0nkey)
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# cedar perch Control(From d0nkey) AAECAf0GCM6SBcWkBeKkBd/CBab7BdiBBoCeBoSeBgv62ATX+gXt/QXagAa...
### Sludge Warlock
# Cost: 11820
# Format: Standard
# 🟦 1x (1) Fracking
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tour Guide
# ⬜ 2x (1) Tram Mechanic
# 🟨 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn
# ⬜ 2x (2) Disposal Assistant
# 🟦 2x (3) Forge of Wills
# ⬜ 1x (3) Plague Eruption
# 🟦 2x (3) Sludge on Wheels
# 🟦 2x (3) Suffocating Shadows
# 🟪 2x (3) Trolley Problem
# 🟦 2x (4) Disciple of Sargeras
# ⬜ 2x (4) Furnace Fuel
# 🟨 1x (4) Ignis, the Eternal Flame
# ⬜ 2x (4) Imposing Anubisath
# 🟨 1x (4) Pop'gar the Putrid
# ⬜ 2x (4) Waste Remover
# 🟨 1x (5) Rin, Orchestrator of Doom
# 🟨 1x (7) Dar'Khan Drathir
# 🟨 1x (9) Sargeras, the Destroyer
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# You can view this deck at https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9271342


https://www.hsguru.com/deck/9271342

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Rin

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rin is culture

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💀

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its the most popular list on d0nkey