Path of Exile: Secrets of the Atlas

[gusty light]

give me a build idea

i'll make it a t17 runner

(a reasonable idea, not like an autobomber or whatever)

[trail blade]

why not though

you can explode the entire map can't you

no need to do the boss

i can just spew out random words like poison earthbreaker warden

[gusty light]

if you buy the maps and scarabs

then also fighting the boss might be a waste of time

depends on the map

the fortress boss is kinda easy

the citadel boss was easy too, just... really tanky for some reason

[trail blade]

doesnt help the fact that you asked for explanations as to why people hate t17 maps and then just threw every example I gave away
ignoring the fact that most of the rebukes you gave are "if you can't do it, waste money until you can, or play the game again with a build that can do it just for this one thing, or don't play at all"

[gusty light]

people hated a lot of things about PoE but most of these were kinda... meaningless

like

more budget = better build

that's what the game is about

so why would GGG rebalance the game to allow mid builds run t17s

the real problem with T17s is that scarabs are priced around them

like the monstrous treasure ambush scarab

[trail blade]

if you dont feel like any of the points warrant frustration, that's fine, everyone plays games for their own reason, but I got stuff to do

[gusty light]

this is kinda like the

there's a store like a kilometer away from your home

and you can get there in a few ways

you can walk, you can take a bike, you can take a car

you decide to walk and then you complain that it takes a long time

but won't hop on the bike

like if your build is trash then reroll or invest

like 95% of builds on poe.ninja could run t17s with more money

and by more money i mean like 15 div

about unreductable DoT in t17

i found it in my first map and what i did to counter it is

not walk into it

it's the Sirus phys DoT iirc

[kind sun]

I can probably do tier 17s and Ive done like 5-6 divs of investment

[trail blade]

look im not mad just to make it clear

but like i just dont get why it doesnt get conveyed to you
like, its not like i have either the option to walk or bike

i can walk or i can go forge iron to make a bike frame out of then buy the rest of the parts to bike

leveling builds is fucking ass

you know

[kind sun]

Also, the scarab that silences maps is a thing

[trail blade]

its just like

always "go make a different build" no I want to push the build I wanted to play this league cause its cool and I love it and im having fun just not when the game says "go fuck off, die now, I hate you"

and then my options are to go NOT play the fun thing, or to grind out until maybe I can stop seeing this gif every time a rare enters my line of sight

https://tenor.com/view/finnish-hospital-kys-gif-27573537

[gusty light]

if you have the build you enjoy playing then keep playing it

[trail blade]

I AM DOING THAT

[gusty light]

well

then invest in it

[kind sun]

I mean, thats just the kind of game poe is

[trail blade]

IM 40 DIVS IN

League start money*

[gusty light]

can you link the PoB?

[trail blade]

i dont use pob anymore

[gusty light]

then what build is it

[trail blade]

lemme see if i can give u my profile

its carrion golems

sec

[gusty light]

elementalist or necro

[trail blade]

i cant login from my phone because of steam

listen please, I know whatt I need to do to get my build to do all content

but please

[kind sun]

Can probably import you build if it’s public

[trail blade]

that doesnt mean its not frustrating to grind it out okay

thats what im trying to tell you, that IT STILL SUCKS ON THE WAY TO DO THE CONTENT

[gusty light]

i mean you grind it out in t16s

if you're 40 divs in then you probably haven't died in like

days

unless you're running mad essences or exiles

you know there's a reason why the studio's called Grinding Gear Games

[trail blade]

no i spent 40 divs in league start money getting my gear, my clusters, my jewels
this build cost a LOT this league

[gusty light]

cuz you grind

[trail blade]

now im waiting to convert to CI to get even tankier

and yes, you still get fucking oneshot sometimes

the crimson ore mobs suck

[gusty light]

it's not the crimson ore mobs it's the crimson ore effect

that you get when you complete it

but before you get it it's against you

[warped kindle]

I'm in yellow maps and my build cost 20c

[trail blade]

no i specifically am talking about:
big guy with phys slam from crimson ore
Tul monster/Harbinger with infinite damage ball lightning that keeps killing my golem somehow (they dont have less dmg to minions on them)

shit like that

but its SHIT

i know what to do

it feels like SHIT

cause i can kill Uber Elder, 100%, one try

but I need to go up against BULLSHIT and it FEELS BAD

[gusty light]

Uber elder or Uber Uber elder

[trail blade]

normal UE, for voidstones

thats why people hate T17

[gusty light]

i died so many times in that fight for some reason

[trail blade]

it FEELS BAD

unless it JUST DOESNT

and thats why the game is so frustrating all the fucking time

because it just SUCKS and then SUDDENLY IT DONT

[gusty light]

i mean if you hate the weird slows etc then play Trickster or Jugg

[trail blade]

and the bridge between SUCKS and NOT SUCKS can be 10c or 10 mirrors

[kind sun]

I mean whats their armor value?

[gusty light]

or use Kaom's Roots if you can

[gusty light]

honestly i think that's because you don't really know what makes a build good

[trail blade]

I DONT NEED HELP WITH MY MINION BUILD, THEY DIE TO MOBS WITHOUT THE LESS DMG TO PLAYER MINIONS MOD

[gusty light]

and your prioritze the other way

[trail blade]

im fucking off

goodbye

[gusty light]

there is a lot of annoying stuff in PoE

but if you keep spending divs on gear and you don't know if it's going to solve your issues then... what are you spending it on

[kind sun]

I’m gonna be real, your just frustrated

[gusty light]

another thing about PoE is that

[kind sun]

Which is understandable, I get frustrated with poe all the time.

[gusty light]

it's not really meant to be a "every build can do all content" game (tho it usually is, with high enough budget)

the devs have switched to rotating metas years ago

[kind sun]

But sometimes you need to step back and ask questions pr you can’t move forward

[gusty light]

tho they always leave a few builds that can do most if not all content

if you pick a build that is mechanically fucked in the current game then

well you're the one trying to break through a brick wall with your head

[kind sun]

Poe is basically “build quality”*investment”=build ability

[gusty light]

the problem with PoE is that mechanics are really hard to predict

like are you going to like how the build plays or not

[kind sun]

And sometimes the slot machine fucks you

You can make it fuck you less, but it will still fuck you eventually

[gusty light]

oh yeah btw

if you're not struggling with DPS but survivability then consider taking the atlas keystone that gives mobs 50% more life but reduces their damage by 25%

i run it and it saved me a few times in t17s

dropped to like 20% of life instead of dying

[kind sun]

For sure

That and the scarab I mentioned

Only a mad man would run the opposite mod tbh.

[gusty light]

i have a modifier effect multi wheel on my atlas tree so i kinda am running that lol

[kind sun]

Modifier effect is more balanced though

[gusty light]

i kinda hate the map mods in PoE, they're so dated

[kind sun]

Yeah

[gusty light]

also in red maps you have shit like 200% more damage as extra element

but by themselves the mobs are very weak

[kind sun]

Even with 85% mit those mods suck

[gusty light]

you can technically run T16s with like 100k DPS and still one shot most of the mobs on the map

[trail blade]

for crying out loud, please

my build.almost did all non-uber content already, what im saying is not that i need build help but that the game just has annoying shit that I cant work around without grinding for another month non-stop why is that so hard to communicate

[gusty light]

what can't you work around exactly

[trail blade]

by the golden arse of innocence stop telling me how to update my build i know what I need to put on it

[kind sun]

I get that you’re venting.

[trail blade]

thank you

[kind sun]

I like to go into white maps just to blow off steam sometimes

The PoE equivalent of screaming into a pillow

I really need to get some damage when leaching gloves, would be a straight 40% damage increase

[gusty light]

if you have a free affix slot on your gloves then i can craft that for you

i have the mod

[kind sun]

Thats my main problem

[trail blade]

like just
im trying to convey that nomatter what the game will still be annoying and frustrating in places, and no amount build suggestions will fix that
i know what I need to do next, get elemancer flesh and flame, avian aspect, a fat minion wand and to start awakening and corrupting all my gems and then i know my build can do ubers
that still wont stop the game from sucking at random times
why is it that every single time someone is frustrated everyone acts like they justdid their build wrong

I have 40/40s, i did every encounter in the gameonce

stop defending the fucking game so much

[kind sun]

Is it a sufix or prefix

[gusty light]

hold on, i'll check

prefix

[kind sun]

Makes it easier I guess.. might need to get a new pair though,

[gusty light]

spell suppress is a suffix so it shouldn't be too bad

[warped kindle]

you need a new ring

[kind sun]

I don’t run any spell suppress really

[gusty light]

the game has bullshit moments but i don't think they're a reason to get mad like this

[trail blade]

you mean gear ring or people ring

[gusty light]

tho i did get mad like this earlier in the league

[trail blade]

cause yes, i wsnt to craft buy a minion dps ring

[gusty light]

when i realized they must've reworked freeze somehow

[trail blade]

or buy*

[warped kindle]

i was just messing with you

[trail blade]

sec

[trail blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/435527615625822230/1071868787487420416/penisblast.mp4?ex=66b46dd9&is=66b31c59&hm=208750b4f9e88989eb656be404a9a7b81c5088d0795679fdedcdcfff46e9aa55&

[kind sun]

I need to run Jun for a bit to get my crafts, most stuff will be easier to craft myself.

[warped kindle]

can this build do t17?

[trail blade]

yes

i should play a good hexblaster again

but mines 😡

[warped kindle]

so true

I hate mines and traps

fuck them right off

[kind sun]

It can’t damage skeletons though, unless it can deal psychological damage

[gusty light]

what the fuck

[kind sun]

Thats an old recombinator ring, they were busted

You can’t get multi fractured mods with them anymore of course

And recombinators suck pretty bad this league

[trail blade]

finally enough chaos for flesh and flame

NOW

actually nvm

normal carrion gives phys dmg not pdr

you know what

its probably worth it to drop 1 carrion to have the pdr

[gusty light]

chaos golem time

[trail blade]

12.5% https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818526900477100082/1270780883682725980/4iek3r-3187787714.png?ex=66b4f26c&is=66b3a0ec&hm=895a3ffec1d0179af6909374915d01dbcd6f64fc717d98aa9976a813b6cc4778&

Blight build btw

™️

[gusty light]

are you farming ravaged maps?

[trail blade]

no thats a normal map

t16 blight with the super short path cassia style™️

some rare mobs went past the stun tower, i should have put double stun

sadly it was freeze immune, though i really ought to get the freeze on hit enchant for my ring

[trail blade]

my hulking miscreation just died in a t1 ultimatum

literally what the fuck

[warped kindle]

new ring

I'm telling you

it will solve every problem

[kind sun]

Just run AA instead shm

AA is just soft hardcore

One of those builds Ive wanted to try

[trail blade]

wtf is AA

[kind sun]

Animate Armor

[gusty light]

arctic armor?

or animate guardian

[kind sun]

The one where you summon gear from your inventory

Guess I meant AG

[trail blade]

you know

if i do end up playing for >1 month

i might play chains of command

[kind sun]

I’ve also wanted to try a shield throw build, since they look weird. Elemental hit also someday

[trail blade]

Deadeye SST is cracked

one of my fav attack builds

[gusty light]

Ele Hit warden is good

can easily reach 3M dps

10M with ballistas

under 15 div iirc

[kind sun]

This is my second time trying a slam build, last time it was pretty meh, this time I could see doing normal bossing on it eventually.

Think I did TS with impale lasttime

[gusty light]

can you drop your PoBs here?

[ebon linden]

what the fuck

[kind sun]

Eh, not at the moment. I’m at work, working hard, as you can tell

[trail blade]

Yep

thats Spectral Shield throw

[gusty light]

it's not really a bosser build tho

[kind sun]

I’m pretty busy today so maybe I’ll post it tomorrow

[gusty light]

unless you have a lot of money

[trail blade]

actually it does work very well as a bossing build to

too*

because you have like
actual damage to chunk enemies

but it does get expensive nearing voidstones yes

[trail blade]

@kind sun i found a calcification scarab you wanna buy it

[kind sun]

Maybe

Can’t today

[trail blade]

maybe tmr

[trail blade]

@kind sun lol i got another one

[gusty light]

not sure how much this costs

but i will try it when i level my next char

[warped kindle]

this is a dota joke

[kind sun]

How powerful

[gusty light]

power rune is for the wand crafts

you are possessed by a tormented spirit

30% increased action speed (per wand)

[kind sun]

[gusty light]

a fruitful day

[warped kindle]

Gentlethem

I got a divine

traded for it

sold some shitty gloves

[gusty light]

ok

glad hit lvl 95

so i guess it's time for uhh

new axe

and then the char's complete

[kind sun]

Mhh currency

[kind sun]

New build time

but what did I chose?

Now on one can send me a friend request! HAHAHAHAH

[gusty light]

Ele Hit Warden

thinking about it myself but...

i'd rather make something very tanky

[kind sun]

Yeah, easy guess lol

[gusty light]

the glad is good for mapping but it can't really withstand much

28k ele hit isn't much

10k phys hit isn't much either

heard for t17s you want to aim for like

20k phys, 50k ele

[kind sun]

I am speed

[gusty light]

ok i need ideas

what is

like

the best build around

quite fast for clearing, tanky, great damage

[kind sun]

SLAM

[gusty light]

slam what

oh yeah by tanky and great damage i meant i want to switch to t17s

[kind sun]

Idk just pick one

[gusty light]

i'm browsing poe.ninja and the only build i can see that makes sense is Chieftain RF

[kind sun]

I mean, HoA?

[gusty light]

actually

do i even want to farm t17s? ngl these mods are kinda annoying

[kind sun]

Its tanky and has the best deffensive layer... being in another room entierly

[gusty light]

which HoA

herald of agony?

it's been dead for leagues

[kind sun]

yeah

Has it?

[gusty light]

yeah

i think ghazzy hasn't even listed in in his video

[kind sun]

I know EH is good for freezing

[gusty light]

EH warden yeah

with hoarfrost

from the ascendancy

actually...

i could also run Legion...

with the "mobs can be broken out of stasis multiple times"

and i had a PoB with 3M dps

under 10 div

[kind sun]

It also has the deffensive layer of... running two IL

[gusty light]

IL?

[kind sun]

Inspired learning

[gusty light]

or a headhunter

[kind sun]

... Well yeah

IL is like 30C though

[gusty light]

WHAT

wait

Fortitude Forbidden Flame is only 1 div?

so you get 15 fort for 2 divs?

ok it's between 1 and 2 div

damn maybe i could respec the glad a bit

make it tanky

but can i do it?

[kind sun]

lol

[gusty light]

i'm gonna leave the glad as is

[gusty light]

honestly?

fuck it, i'm gonna roll ele hit warden

i want to see those freezes

i know it won't have poor dps because i've already seen it in PoB

[kind sun]

Got to act 6 in 4 hours, not bad at all!

I have 140% movespeed, which is pretty great, seven league step is pretty dope ngl.

[gusty light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFzhmf_MUY8

exped can be 20 div/h but you need a build that's tanky as fuck

and by tanky i mean Max Hit + Recovery, not EHP

my glad wasn't the best for this

[trail blade]

think again

84 block 3000 ward chaos dot

[kind sun]

My Ms is now 175 with all my buffs... lol

[gusty light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pUZuer8F7U

[kind sun]

I am positivly radiant.

[gusty light]

i'm not liking the Ele Hit playstyle either :(

i think playing like 500 hours of Lightning Arrow Deadeye in Crucible filled this hole

[kind sun]

I like the "shoot a billion arrows that all kill instantly on adds"

[gusty light]

i think i'm gonna make my own build from scratch

[kind sun]

I am now a Beta sub 100% base MS haver 😦

[ebon linden]

[kind sun]

I only need 2 non unique items... lol

This build is OP as shit lol

[gusty light]

the perma freeze is fucking crazy, ngl

you can just

facetank everything

and you cover the entire area usually

holy shit joe biden's playing PoE

[kind sun]

I mean good on him

[gusty light]

i think i'm gonna reroll the warden

into frost blades

[kind sun]

I transitioned to crit and have one IL, its pretty great, but my MS is low 😦

[kind sun]

I did the thing!

[kind sun]

I got the meme, without a single dup lol

[warped kindle]

I have 100 stacked decks

should i sell

or open?

[kind sun]

Why would you sell? that's 20 magebloods your holding there!

[warped kindle]

ok

I'll let you know what happens

ok

I got a desecrated virtue on my last 5

so 140c or so got turned into about 120

[kind sun]

[ebon linden]

the fuck

[kind sun]

Elemental hit does the DPSs

Keep in mind I have like 30 divs invested lol.

I'm a glass cannon though'

My only real defense is from freeze.

Which works usually.

But like, not always.

[gusty light]

link the pob

[kind sun]

Its the same elemental hit build

[warped kindle]

just beat the pirate for a my boat

got a power rune

3.4 div

fuck yeah

[kind sun]

Wanders do pretty insane damage.

thinking I might try one

[warped kindle]

how do i get LS slayer to work?

I'm pretty tanky

but i do fuck all damage

[gusty light]

you need VLS and you need to position yourself correctly

[warped kindle]

is there a video for this?

[gusty light]

if you end up disliking the positioning stuff then you can respec into frost blades

[gusty light]

test it on a stationary boss

you want to be close enough to hit with your proj and with the melee hit from like

ancestral call at the same time

(it's not ancestral call anymore but idk how to call it)

so basically you need to be far enough for the "Non-Vaal Strike skills target 1 additional enemy" to proc but also close enough for the base attack to proc the projectiles

[kind sun]

elemental hit is all about positioning too. IT uses the fledgling, so it can feel a bit wonky for sure.

[warped kindle]

alright

can i send pob just in case i'm doing something wrong with my build?

[gusty light]

yeah

[warped kindle]

oh jesus

I think i did that wrong

I have a helmet

it wont show for some reason

[gusty light]

1. you need Enduring Cry for endurance charge generation

2. for charge mastery take "100% increased Charge duration"

3. rn you have too much life for Precise Technique to work

(or not enough accuracy)

[warped kindle]

precision on helmet

wont show for some reason

[gusty light]

oh

[warped kindle]

ok

this has the items again

with the changes you suggested so far

[gusty light]

you're playing Lightning Strike without Pierce?

https://pobb.in/yRMCFBwNGPXV

with uber lab and some changes

but

you should 100% get the

Piercing Shots node

like respec into it rn

oh you do have grace and determ

[warped kindle]

I have some pierce on my gauntlets

is it not enough?

[gusty light]

you have accuracy and damage per frenzy charge

oh the craft

nah, 1 isn't enough

you really want those passives

[warped kindle]

got it

is this a good gem?

jewel

idk

[gusty light]

archmage builds are EO, not crit

so idk

[kind sun]

This build wants a corupted impliced modifier lol

[gusty light]

it's not a corrupted implicit

it's from runecrafting

[kind sun]

Ohhh even better lol

[gusty light]

well you can guarantee it

[kind sun]

Need to upgread my table

I meant that one unironically

where do I get Time runes?

[gusty light]

you can buy them

[kind sun]

I'm a bit broke tbh

Spent all my currency to get my current build

[kind sun]

I got soul eater from IL and that was pretty great for a full 20 seconds.

[kind sun]

IL is pretty OP

well not really, its only 20 seconds.

[gusty light]

when you get a headhunter run 5-ways

you'll get lvl 98 in like an hour

[kind sun]

5-ways?

[gusty light]

legion

emblems

[kind sun]

Oh

Good point I could run that for money...

I made about 2 Divs a day durring the weekend. so its not like I'm making bank yet.

Build is still fragile, and I don't see that changing anytime soon...

Need to craft a good belt or buy one ready made.

[gusty light]

i still have no clue how to craft

beyond basic shit

i wish there was a website

where you copy and paste an item and the website tells you how to craft it

to be the most cost efficient

[kind sun]

There is Craft of Exile, but really, its about learning... Its not easy or cheep to learn.

And often you end up losing money, even with a good strat.

Which is why I usually just buy.

but what you buy is usually someone else's failure

[gusty light]

there is but you have to figure the path yourself

i crafted a toxic rain bow with it some leagues ago

but i also had the general idea of how to craft it from a zizaran video

[kind sun]

Yeah, you need to figure out weights and if you really need something odd, blocking.

The belt I want is "mostly" essence and go though

Life
Mana
Int-essence mod
chaos res
elemental damage with attacks -crafted

[gusty light]

so basically

fractured Chaos Res

and then essence crafting

eventually annul and craft

[kind sun]

Yes, for the non bis, it needs to be on a Stygian Vise for bis though.

So getting a fractured chaos res on that would require some serious shenanigan's or a fractured orb.

On average you could expect four attempts or so.

[gusty light]

could also just run a leather belt

[kind sun]

Yeah

BUT THE DAMAGE

[gusty light]

you have enough

[kind sun]

I CAN HAVE MORE

[gusty light]

144 max life fractured mod on a leather belt is 20c

fractured 35% chaos res is 30c

[kind sun]

Yeah, I know. Its what I'm going with first.

Been running up the stakes for the first time... I previously thought it was for the boss fight lol

I can see it being dangerous, but things are just frozen, so that doesn't matter.

[gusty light]

oh there is a fossil optimizer for fossil crafting

on craft of exile

[kind sun]

Didn't even need to craft the elemental damage with attacks, and its 2% higher than the crafted one.

Essence spam is life

I will say, freezing bosses may not freeze them, but 50% slower is still pretty good.

[gusty light]

https://pobb.in/uqPKLqQyzkeN

mathil's new build

crazy fucking dps

[kind sun]

Time to see if I can sell any items it needs lol

[kind sun]

Got my first Uthred. Very cool looking boss fight, shame my build is made of glass.

[gusty light]

https://pobb.in/ZBCRWiSYk7pN

thinking about this

or something like this

65/65 block

100% suppress

[kind sun]

Cyclone is pretty good, can be a tad soft though

[kind sun]

I might "need" a new bow, If I get a base with 8.2% crit instead of my current base with 6.2 crit, my crit chance goes from 78% to 98% which is pretty huge.

[warped kindle]

got a valdos

should i open it?

[kind sun]

Probably.

Its only about 200C, so the map may be worth far far more.

[warped kindle]

eternal struggle

yeah

that seems about right

[kind sun]

eh that's life. At least its not wide swing poleaxe

[gusty light]

i always sell it

they changed the odds this patch

it's way harder to get good maps

[kind sun]

Still, its a game, have fun with the gamba

Probably why I never have much currency, but what can you do

[warped kindle]

im doing the map

why am i so fucking slow

[kind sun]

How would you even get this base lol

The shaper part is what confuses me.

[warped kindle]

that was terrible

[kind sun]

What were the mods?

[warped kindle]

maven, no travel skills, apparitions, super fucking slow idk, ritual

bruh

shoulda taken the divine

smh

[kind sun]

Ah its froma div card. https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Auspicious_Ambitions

Thats a nutty card.

If your a crafter anyway.

[gusty light]

thinking about buying a fractured reaver axe to craft it

oh yeah i'm also thinking about

dropping a few damage nodes and getting full spell suppress on the glad

[kind sun]

I have full spell suppress and 82% evade. but on'y 3K life, no real way to increase it either... I could swap out a unique or two for a good rare I guess.

But that's the glass cannon life.

[gusty light]

oh yeah i also crafted a nice shield

[kind sun]

I might build a third character for bossing tbh.

[gusty light]

life could've been better tho

[kind sun]

Pretty nice shield yeah.

Maybe some huge sink like https://pobarchives.com/build/HbwLwrhj

A bosser doesn't need to be fun to play... but I hate dots.

Well sorta.

[gusty light]

the clear is kinda meh

you clear with bladestorm and bleed explosiosn basically

rare/uniques you hit twice with lacerate

[kind sun]

I can swap between my EH and this for bosses

[gusty light]

the problem is you won't really have much recovery with this build

you have to block

if you don't you just die

dot? nothing you can do about it

a slayer of some sorts might be better

maybe a total permafreeze warden

where you scale the freeze/chill effect first and then damage

[kind sun]

You can't freeze bosses.

well completelly

[gusty light]

you can probably chill them to like 70%

[kind sun]

50% reduceed AS is good, but not going to make you invincible.

[gusty light]

i remember there is a two handed mace that slows shocked enemy's cast speed by 30%

mathil was playing it a long time ago

[kind sun]

You can't go bellow 50%

[gusty light]

with that and temp chains the elder would take like 5-10 seconds to cast anything

[kind sun]

"cannot be fully slowed" means "cannot go bellow 50% AS"

[gusty light]

that's still a lot

even 15% chill is a lot

[kind sun]

So map bosses are frozen forever, and it makes bosses easy to avoid for sure. but one hit klills you.

[gusty light]

but you can freeze anything in t16s, right?

[kind sun]

Freeze and luck is effectvily your only protection with as low life as it has

[kind sun]

Yes it's god tier for mapping

But pretty bad for any boss that doesn't just die.

Like, you've seen my DPS, its insaine, but if they look at me funny I just die.

[gusty light]

is there anything you can do about it?

like spec out into like

15-20m dps and put the rest into defence

[kind sun]

I could swap some items out to get endurrence charges, but thats it

[gusty light]

can you link your pob?

[kind sun]

https://pobb.in/B8Ab_pzDO24H

There are pleanty of options tbh

https://poe.ninja/builds/settlers?skills=Elemental+Hit+of+the+Spectrum&class=Warden

Could swap in Progenisis

... eventually lol

Most items would be expensive.

[warped kindle]

how much currency do you people have?

No way i'm getting a progenisis at any point

[gusty light]

the stash is worth like 80 div but realistically i have like

30 div to spend

even more

31 div in divs and chaos only

6 divs in runes, 2 divs in eldritch chaos orbs, a div in stacked decks

10 divs in scarabs

[warped kindle]

i have about 20 divs across the board

20 in the build

and 5 in the stash actually

[gusty light]

i still can't figure out what my money sink will be

i rolled a slayer, don't like it

warden, not really what i'm looking for

chieftain - not as tanky as i thought it would be and lacks damage

thinking about a trickster

maybe hexblast

[kind sun]

Probably about the same for me, haven't had time to really grind though

[gusty light]

i think i already have all i need

currency wise

but i can't really commit to anything

the glad is great but i think it doesn't have much potential left

i'm at 8.5M DPS rn

with a new axe, +1 curse chest, a tincture and leveled gems it will have like

15 mil dps? maybe more

[warped kindle]

I'm sitting around 400k dps

smh

[gusty light]

link your pobb

[warped kindle]

you might be mad at me

[gusty light]

you currently have like 1.2m dps

https://pobb.in/wtTT74SbjLtV

lvl 95 and 2 jewels that would be like 30c each maybe (probably less)

https://pobb.in/xEQfyydYf5-s

with a tincture and assassin's mark instead of sniper's mark

also 20/20 gems etc

if you position yourself correctly you have 8.5m dps

[warped kindle]

why do i feel so weak?

[gusty light]

honestly not sure

well

for one

point blank might not really work for you unless you position yourself correctly

it also doesn't work for the returning proj

mate why do you still not have pierce

smadge

get piercing shots

[warped kindle]

I'm short on levels

i swear

[gusty light]

you really need this node tho

[warped kindle]

but i want the other things

😭

[gusty light]

well yeah but this way you're not even hitting most of the enemies

spec out of the herbalism life wheel for now

[warped kindle]

how do i position against enemies that just run at me?

[gusty light]

run further away and keep attacking towards them

once they get into the correct range you'll have double damage for a while

and then repeat

be patient

[kind sun]

Really I need a HH before I get anything else. which honestly doesn't seem too bad

65~ DIV

I feel like this is so expensive just becuase of how getting it seems like total BS

[gusty light]

original sin is so fucked up

[kind sun]

Like, you would need to run some dumb build that can avoid damage like arrow ballista.

[gusty light]

quickly recreated the build @warped kindle idk how much it would be tho, lol https://pobb.in/UoEAWCKdBFx9

12.5m when in range

oh wait

the trickster hexblaster is also a sanctum runner?

hmm

[kind sun]

Yes

Its what most people are using

Also on my list to try.

As nice as it is to see dying sun back up there in terms of market price, it also makes me a bit sad.

Since I need one

[warped kindle]

i have some kind of weird thing in my map?

reflecting mist?

[kind sun]

Pretty rare if it drops sell it

If not pick what you think is best.

Bit late I guess

Its the reimplemented version of the Kalandra mechanic.

But the drop is needed for some of the most busted crafted items the game has ever seen.

[warped kindle]

didnt know it dropped things

left it because i assumed it was crafter stuff

[kind sun]

When you touch it the mist either drops as an item(that's worth 720C) or gives you a choice between two rings that have Very good and Very bad mods on them

The item is better of course.

[warped kindle]

oh

it gave me an option to craft

[kind sun]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Reflecting_Mist_(interactable_object)

When it gives you the option to make an amulet or ring, it would probably have been useless anyway.

Kalandra league was pretty shit

Well we got the Kalandra lore we all wanted. But at great cost.

[warped kindle]

what was the lore?

[kind sun]

Basically Kalandra was the third sister of Lunaris and Solaris. Got stuck in a literal mirror dimension and has been driving men to madness in an attempt to escape her prison, something like that.

[warped kindle]

lmao

that sucks

[kind sun]

There is like an evil version of her or something too

Jun's order was originally created to free her, but in attempting to do so discovered some truth and did their best to wipe all mentions of her from history.

The league mechanic was very pretty though.

Kalandra is a weird bird woman btw

the league mechanic was basically a dungeon builder, sorta like synthesis league, but less awful. but still very awful

[warped kindle]

sometimes the lore is amazing for this game

sometimes its this

[kind sun]

PoE lore is pretty bad imo

Its basically "bad guy finds the beast and almost destroys the world but ends up destroying themselves first" on repeat.

[warped kindle]

I think sin and innocence are pretty good

I like the eldritch horrors

[kind sun]

Atlas lore is good

[warped kindle]

yeah

atlas stuff is usually good

[kind sun]

Kirac doesn't understand he is totally fucking the world over by mapping lol.

Notice that the only way to interact with the eldritch is to choose to.

The power of choice is very important in that kind of horror. TBF it DOES exist, and someone will fuck with it eventually, so its better that its the "good guys"

Everytime your character dies I imagine that timeline is doomed though.

[warped kindle]

ssshhh

dont tell him

He'll take my hobby

[kind sun]

aright.... So hear me out... what if I https://pobarchives.com/build/zXbbhEQe

Its apparently giga tanky and giga damage... at a cost... literally

400-500div budget... lol

[gusty light]

bad clear tho

[kind sun]

Well yeah. its a bosser. You don't call it a bosser if its good for map clear.

[gusty light]

for that kind of money i expect both

[kind sun]

I mean this league seems pretty balenced in that reguard. Save for maybe wanders. but that is also expensive

Guy I know recomends it becuase even without the full investment (like 10 divs) it can be good for ubers.

And if you can do ubers you can make bank.

I've got like 5 divs so I should save up first.

[kind sun]

Closer to 7 divs after doing some selling. still need MORE

[kind sun]

Build video guy goes like. "I'm pretty casual I beat Kitava in like 9 hours"

Like I know some people can do the whole campeign in 4 hours, but like how

I can do it that quick. "With" a seven league step.

[kind sun]

Got a black knight. wans't too bad. only dies once.

[kind sun]

Hrm the ignite chance tatoo is apparently for some AFK ultimatum build. and is selling for 1 div

[gusty light]

https://pobb.in/YVeTPOwbrn5b

7 divs in

[kind sun]

Well start running some sanctum, You'll make major bank once its online.

[warped kindle]

i have some tomes if you want them

[kind sun]

Hell, I saw someone get Osin using the build and with pretty shit gear.

Did have both damage boons though

still one tapping the last boss isn't easy.

[kind sun]

I'm sorry but what.

1 BILLION DPS

[gusty light]

where

[kind sun]

MY eyes are tired kill me lol

Alright its just a third of a billion :p

Thats a 500 div version, which I will never have. But I can try!

[gusty light]

you can't really use the Zenith part as the DPS base

since it's only once every 5 attacks

[kind sun]

Yes you can, when you have

Thats two per second

[gusty light]

hmm

[kind sun]

The build it topping the meta for a reason, its just 400-500 divs.

Has some crazy multihit setup too.

It just costs a mirror

[gusty light]

wait, no you still can't calculate it like that

because zenith is every 5 attack

and that full dps calc is using the

hit damage of the zenith and then multiplies it by 10.26

so it should be like

HitDamage*(10.26/5)

[kind sun]

No its just counting the 5th hit per second.

There is a huge difference between hits 1-4 and 5 so the actual damage average gets thrown off massivly, here is the full calc

[gusty light]

idk i'm pretty sure i'm correct here

[kind sun]

I mean, 250000% weapon damage on the 5th hit

[warped kindle]

eater dropped nothing

[kind sun]

Made some adjustments to account for the buff now being live in PoB. there was a string that was increasing the damage by 74% Its still 200M DPS tho.

Also PoB accounts for the 5th hit being every 5th hit in the calcs.

Has a 78% less damage moddifier to account for itm which seems about right.

[trail blade]

Cassia you better spawn the lanes proper im gonna spread you like that them there fucking blight of yours

[gusty light]

exalt slammed life

[warped kindle]

Lmao

tujen my beloved

[gusty light]

tujen my beloved

lol

[warped kindle]

[kind sun]

Tujen is a short king

[trail blade]

im running expedition rn if u need frags

though idk if they get shared

are they tradeable 🤔

[warped kindle]

It cant help to co op can it?

[trail blade]

i can try to check

[gusty light]

https://pobb.in/JVjzfMLbmxuj

hmmge

[trail blade]

the artifacts arent tradable

but we can run a map to see if we share them

[warped kindle]

how do i send a friend request?

[trail blade]

press S to open the friend menu and down here

[kind sun]

Just run a few Tujen logbooks. Might need to get lucky.

[kind sun]

I mean 500 the best isn't tooo bad...

[trail blade]

oh yeah we can run together and i can just give you my scythe books if you want

expedition is one of those mechanics where you really dont need it in t16's either

[gusty light]

sent an invite

[trail blade]

hoe

[kind sun]

I think the artifacts only go to the map owner if I remember.

[trail blade]

well i got one scythe book i can trade

[kind sun]

Probably effected by quant from the party tho

[warped kindle]

she is so much stronger than me lmao

I'm just an aura bot

[kind sun]

Well yeah, they roll with a guild from what I gather.

We solo scrubs are no competition

[trail blade]

my guild doesnt fund me lol

we just share challenge

[kind sun]

TBF I'm not in a guild but I'm in a specific global chat for a streamer that is pretty helpful.

[kind sun]

Half of the reason I'm interested in the build is to try a stat stacking build.

CAn't start till I get off work though.

[gusty light]

https://pobb.in/mVZu5c4_e01S

solid

honestly i'm surprised that evasion works so well

ooh 9.4M when i buy me jewels

10.8 when i buy a medium cluster jewel

hmm

17.6 with gem levels

so like...

10 more divs?

and i get 17.6M DPS?

nice

[warped kindle]

anyone wanna come do a logbook boss?

cause i cant

lmao

[kind sun]

... I'm on my lunch break I can try lol

My IGN is japanese.. so I'll need your name lol

[kind sun]

poke

素打の人

If its just one of the normal bosses I can perma freeze it for you lol.

[warped kindle]

i uh

dont know how to fight him

olroth

he just becomes invincible

also i need your name

[kind sun]

素打の人

You'll need to copy past it lol

[gusty light]

my name is MaxineTheTrickster, feel free to add

[warped kindle]

added

[gusty light]

thoughts?

[kind sun]

Good, but no life probably hurts it a lot.

TBF high evasion makes that less of a problem.

[gusty light]

not really

since there is that 15% increased max life mastery

[kind sun]

Eh I guess that helps. But flat life is usually better... usually.

[gusty light]

completed my first sanctum run

only ilvl:76 tho

but it was easy

if it scales like maps then it should be fine

in lvl:83s

[kind sun]

Apparently there is a new connective zone for bathhouse, graingate, and solaris concourse(lol). seems interesting, its a heist themed zone. lets you skip that area before bathhouse with nothing in it.

[gusty light]

there is, yes

from grain gate to between the bridge and the solaris zone

doesn't really change much to me since i run like

rush yugul

then go to the clarissa quest, then the gemlings, then solaris, then to lunaris and to the bridge

so i never run the bath house twice

[kind sun]

I personally go straight to solaris orb>Yugul>Lunaris>bridge. Going in one go gets you higher leveled in theory making yugul faster.

[gusty light]

yugul can be annoying

[kind sun]

for sure

[kind sun]

Welp, got to maps in 7 hours. I'll gear the thing tomorrow(good bye money)

Think thats the first time I've done it in one afternoon.

TBF I stayed up later than I normally would, but its before 12 here so it counts!

[gusty light]

i'm already at lvl 94

[trail blade]

ill be in the music room if yall wanna play

one map

this strat is pretty schnasty

[warped kindle]

yo

[trail blade]

It is time

[gusty light]

are you playing ssf?

[warped kindle]

I was playing with her yesterday

[trail blade]

no lmao

i just want fire of unknown origin

which is roughly 64x as rare as dapper

its about the same rarity as a doctor if the new drop rate method is accurate

[kind sun]

I just spend 9 div on my cluster jewels for zenith

[warped kindle]

yo

who wants to help me with my expidition boss lmao

nm i got it

[trail blade]

sorry i didnt see the thing

we can hang out again if you want

[gusty light]

ok

found a seer

in defiled cathedral

where do i scry the map

Jungle Valley or Strand

or Beaches

probably Beaches since the boss is weak so even when i juice him it's gonna be easy

but Jung has that weird boss

that prevents boss mods on altars from spawning

went for beaches

[gusty light]

well chatto

build complete

https://pobb.in/JCfbojhFASyt

[kind sun]

Well my build works now that it can equip crown of eyes. but I need a lot more still lol.

Gonna save up for an omen of fortune and make a Rakiata's

[kind sun]

Big problem for me atm is my res lol, I get +90% from gems, but I can't equip them all yet lol

[trail blade]

@gusty light are you trying to do quant altars or boss buff altars?

[gusty light]

well

people are going with Jungle Valley because when you don't have boss buff altars then you get a higher chance of a div altar spawning

[trail blade]

i was asking cause boss buff altar doesnt help with farming the map divs

[gusty light]

yeah

but i farmed Jungle Valley so much in Crucible that i can't really look at it anymore

[kind sun]

Got my defense figured out... now I need a 6L...

just shy of 1000 strength

[kind sun]

Just a casual T0 unique item

(its really easy to get)

[gusty light]

poggy woggy

[kind sun]

With that, my build should be mostly online, but its gonna be a bit bad with DPS, even with the sword for a bit longer.

Should be at least 2 mil now though.

Need a fucktone of accuracy tatoos

[gusty light]

aren't you a jugg

the ascendancy node should carry you

[kind sun]

... I need a lot

Very big sword

[kind sun]

My damage is now good... I feel a tad fragile though. need more resistance.

max res

only level 80 atm, so I need to level up a bit

[gusty light]

and i'm actually surprised how tanky the trickster is

i should run a t17

[kind sun]

Alright, did some leveling and broke 10mill DPS, I can now probably start bossing, in theory...

Deathless normal eater in about 2 min

Bosser online

[warped kindle]

I beat maven for the first time

fought her like 15 times

finally did it

[kind sun]

I hate her memory game bullshit

[warped kindle]

same

just did uber elder

finally

all the pinacles

https://tenor.com/view/power-gif-26477241

[gusty light]

ok so

i think i have one more build in me for this league

[kind sun]

Do zenith if you can its soooo busted, took a while to get online, but one tapping bosses several times over is fun. Also a good chance to try a stat stacker

Clear speed is actually alright btw

Especially once you get your third nearby target from your gloves

I really need my regen/action speed boots but I need a better base first

[gusty light]

i'd want something super fast

with instant damage

for deli/legion farms

[kind sun]

I mean, elemental hit is a crazy fast screen clearer. For clear speed only thing better might be something like essence drain, but I have no idea how good it is and the play-style sucks

[gusty light]

ED/con isn't really good anymore

maybe i'd want some

ssf action

i could learn crafting

the question is

what build would that be

and 2 how would the atlas tree look like

essences and

???

[kind sun]

SSF ususally run Essence, beasts and ritual if I remember right

[gusty light]

beasts, right

the right side has betrayal tho

would need those crafts

the right side also has harvest

[kind sun]

There are the cross nodes

[gusty light]

also Rog from exped

[kind sun]

SSF Ruthless lol

[gusty light]

no

ok so

it seems like first you go for maps and map sustain/unlock

complete all maps

and when you unlock the second atlas tree it's

expedition and essence

and a little betrayal on the side

[gusty light]

actually

i'm curious about something

how does Inspired Learning/Headhunter interact with that Legion scarab

where mobs can be broken out of stasis many times

do you keep getting more and more mods?

[kind sun]

Yes, it counts them as dying.

[gusty light]

so it also works for the incubators

also

i ran some sanctums and

they're honestly not hard at all

[kind sun]

This is what reflecting mist does btw @warped kindle kinda shit

[warped kindle]

I want the one that give me money

[kind sun]

Shaper slam does 10% of my HP... lol

Beam does NOTHING

[kind sun]

I stung

[warped kindle]

tujen my beloved

I am now tujender

[kind sun]

Yeahhhhhhh NO

[gusty light]

i had a void map with a lifesprig reward

[kind sun]

Sent to the void deletes you character if they die.

[kind sun]

I have been avoiding +elemental resistance nodes and stuff... I have a Rakiata's... silly brain

[gusty light]

ok so i'm in act 6

my plan for SSF is

take a character from each class to lvl 95

first it's Duelist, went with Slayer

Lightning Strike

it's really strong

probably the most dps i've had during leveling

[gusty light]

https://pobb.in/4l1nln9zz4kK

act 7 dps

[kind sun]

https://pobb.in/JfTDPpdXIK1C

I still need two MAJOR things, but the DPS is already stupidly high.

Only thing that can kill me atm is chaos damage prety much

[trail blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818526900477100082/1275096670149017652/image.png?ex=66c4a5d0&is=66c35450&hm=b433dc99f4525f1b5500f0f95649ed5c8a9a42746b89c6f865cc11c5d31006ed&

this is my animate guardian

@warped kindle you wanna see some really juiced maps

[warped kindle]

I do

[trail blade]

aight im here

[kind sun]

Does animate guardian still delete the items when they die? Lol

[trail blade]

yep

[kind sun]

Wow, how often does that happen?

[trail blade]

but he has minimum 25% regen

we will see

[kind sun]

So it basically needs to get oneshot