glyph-investigation

[twin token]

Hes retweeted the Desolation trailer 5 times now

[placid mango]

I guess it’s a big deal for him and he’s excited

[twin token]

Probably just his habit

@placid mango ofc they just launched another awesome update which is technically quite challenging

Imagine if he tweets it again with a rune type emoji. That would send people into overdrive

[placid mango]

Indeed that would lol

[twin token]

Guess I'll see if that happens tomorrow

See yall then!

Rack your brains CSD!

[charred urchin]

breaking down the trailer frame by frame there is soooooo much stuff in there that it's probs not on accident

[placid mango]

See ya tomorrow fellow interloper @twin token

Agreed @charred urchin

[charred urchin]

Discord on my computer decided to go die so I found some note stuff tho

Let me grab it and upload to phone real quick

Found “u” and “p” as well you can see ce in the corner too

Okay I can’t upload on my phone either anyway

I found “u” and “p” where we found CE as well

okay i guess discord decided to upload it

[grizzled verge]

That's C15

Theres also "o", "s", and "R"

Also I feel like this is a new channel

[summer canopy]

While discord was down I found THESE

[tranquil tulip]

damn what time stamp?

[summer canopy]

I beleive it's at the 1:00 mark

But you really gotta pause alot

Its during the title reveal thing

[strong coyote]

looks like discord lost the pins when it went down

[plucky glacier]

nope

they're there still

[strong coyote]

there was a google drive link with every frame

hm, pin list is empty for me

must still be having problems then

[plucky glacier]

try checking another, smaller server

[summer canopy]

This is the one that's really catching my eye

[plucky glacier]

can't really tell anything from it

[strong coyote]

kinda looks like 'the old gods' if you squint a bit

[plucky glacier]

bit of a stretch

[summer canopy]

I see 2 infinity symbols

[strong coyote]

two bears high fiving

[placid mango]

It does kindof if you look hard enough but that might be a coincidence

[strong coyote]

almost certainly

it's just our monkey brains pattern matching

[turbid cobalt]

Has the weekend mission started?

[plucky glacier]

yeah

i ran through it already, seems to have no relation to the glyphs

[turbid cobalt]

Ok

I’ll go through and look for anything

[icy torrent]

Can someone give me a super basic explanation to what this channel is for please?

[turbid cobalt]

Has Sean tweeted anything

Also check the pins

[summer canopy]

It's to solve the glyphs that show up in the trailer and stuff

[icy torrent]

Oh ok. So something was hiding in the trailer.

[turbid cobalt]

We found weird symbols in the Desolation trailer

[icy torrent]

That's real neat.

[main oxide]

[turbid cobalt]

And we wanna figure out what the hell they mean

[summer canopy]

Yup

Very interesting

[main oxide]

Would be nice if we got some confirmation that we aren't wasting our time. In WT for example, I believe community members got info if they were still on track

[summer canopy]

Yeah I'd like that

[safe matrix]

10 letter words
ABERRATION - ADAPTATION - ADJUSTMENT - ALTERATION - BETTERMENT - CHOPPINESS - CONTINUITY - CONVERSION - DAPPLENESS - DEFLECTION - DIFFERENCE - DIGRESSION - DISCURSION - DISSONANCE - DIVAGATION - DIVERGENCE - DIVERGENCY - ERRATICISM - EXPOSITION - FICKLENESS - INEQUALITY - INTERMEZZO - MITIGATION - MODULATION - MOTLEYNESS - MUTABILITY - NACHTMUSIK - OPPOSITION - PRODUCTION - RAGGEDNESS - RE-CREATION - RESOLUTION - REVOLUTION - RITORNELLO - SEPARATION - SHIFTINESS - TRANSITION - UNEVENNESS - UNLIKENESS - WANTONNESS

[turbid cobalt]

I doubt it’s a word

It’s probably a cipher and/or a URL

[opal vigil]

You sure the glyphs aren't a portal adress?

[turbid cobalt]

Hmm

I mean we haven’t looked much at numbers

But they aren’t anything like standard portal glyphs

There also only 10 rather then 16

[opal vigil]

Fair.

I guess the numbers are the next clue?

[turbid cobalt]

I mean nobody really knows

We have zero idea what these glyphs mean right now

Imma check the weekend mission in just a bit

Apparently nothings been found

Also has Sean tweeted anything interesting?

[opal vigil]

No correspondence to any existing glyph system? The ocean wave reminds me of something,

[turbid cobalt]

I mean we think it’s a mix of multiple languages

[icy torrent]

@summer canopy Amazing find

[opal vigil]

Where did those 10 letter words come from?

[turbid cobalt]

There are way more 10 letter words then that also

[placid mango]

It’s a ten letter word possibly because of the amount of glyphs @opal vigil

[icy torrent]

How do we know what letter is what glyph it could be a thausand possibilities

[opal vigil]

So we are doing Numerology 10 now?

[placid mango]

Idk

Also holy cow it’s Zentre in the flesh

[opal vigil]

Just a thought, does a magic square for 10 exist?

[placid mango]

That’s a good question

I don’t exactly know

[turbid cobalt]

I think letters 1 and 9 are Pigpen Cipher i’s

[icy torrent]

I'm not going anywhere Spaceman 😉

[opal vigil]

Cryptology, not my specialty.

[icy torrent]

what if its a Caesar crypt?

has anyone tried

[turbid cobalt]

I don’t think so

[opal vigil]

I don't think that makes sense. Words are in alphabetic order right?

[cedar smelt]

If we were to assume that it’s a ten letter English word, and if we assume letter 1 and 9 are the same, and that character can’t appear anywhere else, then that narrows it down to around 1400 words. Knock yourself out boys 😂

https://pastebin.com/t471zqTP

(But to add, even if it is a word - then what? Ideally we would want planet glyphs, a paste in or bitly, none of which are 10 chars)

[turbid cobalt]

I really don’t think it’s a word

But I’ll look

[coral sparrow]

y tho

[opal vigil]

What if we are looking at it the wrong way?

[cedar smelt]

Well, it it is just a word then it’s a shite puzzle. Cause it doesn’t amount to anything but a word :p

[icy torrent]

It looks like it has letters though

[turbid cobalt]

FRICK

I COPIED IT WRONG

[icy torrent]

.<

[turbid cobalt]

SORRY

[opal vigil]

Please delete this.

[cedar smelt]

That’s why paste bin is your friend lol

[opal vigil]

^

What if each word is actually a lore reference and not a cypher at all, or a "lore cipher"?

[cedar smelt]

I’d be down for that.

Some Norse tunes also represent two letters in one rune. So it could be longer than 10 characters and therefore become a YouTube link (11 chars) but I still think that’s a stretch

Runes** bloody autocorrect

[icy torrent]

Imagine it being top gek

[cedar smelt]

[opal vigil]

Press and hold on phone to edit your comment on discord.

[cedar smelt]

I’m familiar enough with Discord, I was just being lazy 😉

[turbid cobalt]

Deleted

[icy torrent]

Plas means pee in dutch

[turbid cobalt]

I know

[plucky raft]

Kek

[turbid cobalt]

I get told about twice a day lol

[opal vigil]

Yes and it's funny as hell.

[icy torrent]

just sayin'

[opal vigil]

But Plas also means lake.

[icy torrent]

yeah

[cedar smelt]

Alexa remind me to remind Plas 3x per day

[icy torrent]

i sometimes don't plas for a whole week

[opal vigil]

You might want to go to a doctor.

[cedar smelt]

^

[icy torrent]

nah its just depression

anyway

[cedar smelt]

Sounds Iike compression

[icy torrent]

:ha:

[turbid cobalt]

I mean

My full username is/was Plasminium but everyone shortens it to Dutch pee

[icy torrent]

Peeminium

we should get back to topic

[opal vigil]

Yeah, we have multiple branches to go on. Lore reference, Norse Runes and numerology. We need to see which ones we can select out.

[icy torrent]

You say numerology, but it looks like letters?

[opal vigil]

Someone here said something about numbers.

[icy torrent]

oh yeah, probably this https://pastebin.com/t471zqTP

[turbid cobalt]

Someone make a list of every 10 digit number /s

[opal vigil]

Yeah, but where did these words come from, what source?

[cedar smelt]

A guy on the cryptology Reddit ran it through a “possible outcomes” simulation based on 10 Letter word where digit 1 and 9 are the same, and cannot feature elsewhere

[icy torrent]

What are these digits ?

Matthew rocking the arnaud profile pic

[turbid cobalt]

I don’t think we should focus on words but instead try to figure out what each symbol means

[cedar smelt]

Oh yes Expand haha

[turbid cobalt]

Cause there’s a good chance it’s not even a word

[cedar smelt]

For the kicks

[icy torrent]

Rest In Peace arnaud

[cedar smelt]

My boy

[icy torrent]

What if this is not a thing and Sean is just trolling us

[turbid cobalt]

X to doubt

[cedar smelt]

Chances of it being artistic license as opposed to a puzzle are extremely high

[opal vigil]

Maybe the point is to remove the 1st and 9th letter before doing a cipher?

[plucky glacier]

sean is probably saddened by the fact that we're starting over the whole investigation every other hour

[cedar smelt]

But there is text on the freigter wall in the trailer that says “ARG” so yeah

[plucky glacier]

we were doing so well last night

[icy torrent]

kek

[opal vigil]

Come on, HG has done waking titan.

[icy torrent]

Actually its Alice & Smith

They did update their background to a waking titan like background 🤔

It was a collaborative effort. If this is an ARG, though, it’s probably exclusively HG

and gives WT on the front page

Yeah strange. Guess they want to show it off

[cedar smelt]

That aesthetic matches pretty much all A&S games

[icy torrent]

It’s a bit suspicious that Greg Buchanan returns as soon as all this stuff starts coming up though...

[cedar smelt]

I agree with expand. I was heavily under the impression the A&S/HG relationship came to an amicable end

[turbid cobalt]

What’s A&S

[cedar smelt]

The creators of Waking Titan ARG

[turbid cobalt]

Ah

[opal vigil]

I doubt it's norse runes. Just doesn't compare.

[cedar smelt]

They’re a third party contracted to create fun things like that. Their standalone games are great too if you like that kind of thing

[turbid cobalt]

I also doubt it’s just there for the kicks

Knowing HG it means something

[icy torrent]

and that this chat channel opened, HMMMMM

[cedar smelt]

But have HG ever actually planted anything before? I’m still inclined to lean towards it being artistic flair to give the trailer some oomf. But I’m open minded 🙂

[turbid cobalt]

sean is probably saddened by the fact that we're starting over the whole investigation every other hour
Also this

[opal vigil]

Come on, Sean plays into it by being cryptic himself.

[icy torrent]

Nope, I don’t think they ever have. But I’m open minded too

[turbid cobalt]

We really are restarting every 5 seconds

[icy torrent]

If Sean posts another clue we are 100% sure

[cedar smelt]

One thing in my experience of these puzzles - if you restart every 5 seconds you probably don’t have all the information

[icy torrent]

yeah

[turbid cobalt]

We’re not gonna get anywhere if we keep restarting, but also what Matthew said

[cedar smelt]

Generally speaking, everything you need you will have. Or else it’s not ready

[icy torrent]

there was this cyberpunk ARG and you had to restart every time

[opal vigil]

The more information, the more obvious it gets. Doesn't mean that at all.

[cunning scroll]

Should we start a go fund me for the billboard again and post these glyphs on it?

[icy torrent]

Lol

[soft jackal]

I saw the word ARG can be found in the trailer? Any screenshot of it?

[karmic valve]

@cedar smelt what was that about arg written on the freighter wall

were you joking

[turbid cobalt]

Part the problem is it seems like every 10 minutes someone comes on this channel and starts talking about how “It obviously can’t mean anything” or “The glyphs just spell DESOLATION” or “There isn’t any way you’re gonna solve this”

[summer canopy]

Ayeee Arnaud lancours in the chat

[cedar smelt]

No @karmic valve saw a screenshot of it earlier but on mobile but will try to find it

[icy torrent]

baguette

[karmic valve]

i mean

[cedar smelt]

@turbid cobalt not so much part of the problem. Just a part of the fun. Speculation

[soft jackal]

Bonsoir Arnaud 😏

[karmic valve]

is it like a new or on the derilect ones

[summer canopy]

Wouldn't be surprised if wt is coming back

[turbid cobalt]

I think speculation is fun, I think trying to keep people from speculating and saying they’re dumb takes away from the fun

But eh

[icy torrent]

Bonsoir Elliot Arnaud

[cunning scroll]

The word ARG in the trailer is most likely CARGO but it is odd how they left only ARG showing.

[turbid cobalt]

Yes

[icy torrent]

its almost august, and this is popping up

[turbid cobalt]

Mhm

And Sean hasent said anything

[cedar smelt]

This was it whoever asked

[karmic valve]

oh yeah h,,

[icy torrent]

wow

[karmic valve]

hmm

[icy torrent]

never noticed lol

[karmic valve]

remember the beginning of waking titan

[turbid cobalt]

I feel like if it really were just something for art then Sean would’ve already tweeted out “Hey guys it doesn’t mean anything we just did that cause it looks cool”

[cunning scroll]

I tweeted at Sean and asked him to blink once if we should keep looking at the glyphs...does anyone have eyes on him to see if he blinks?

[karmic valve]

"hiding in plain sight"

[soft jackal]

This is great

[cedar smelt]

It definitely seems beyond coincidence but could be

[turbid cobalt]

But he’s acting like this hasn’t even happened

[icy torrent]

This reminds me of when people had no idea if wt was connected to nms

everything is connected

seems legit

[cedar smelt]

Hey Ash! 👋

[turbid cobalt]

Hullo

[karmic valve]

have we checked if the snippet sean tweeted is different than the actual trailer end

[cedar smelt]

I haven’t Yama not a bad shout

[icy torrent]

Hey, uh... I'm new here, and I'm not sure how much it means, but...this all started on the 16th.

[turbid cobalt]

We should check that

[cedar smelt]

I’m in bed now I’m glyphed out lol

Hey Kyle! 👋

[soft jackal]

Hey Matt! Yes I'm still around.

[cedar smelt]

Good to see you mon ami!

[soft jackal]

Merci my friend

[icy torrent]

have you guys noticed sean retweeting the trailer couple times ?

thats unusual

for Sean

[opal vigil]

Well, he is really wanting to draw attention to it, that's for sure.

[icy torrent]

I’ve felt like he always retweets his stuff a lot

[cedar smelt]

Yeah. I noticed HG account doing the same but it had that bit of extra info about the update

[turbid cobalt]

Has he retweeted it more then once?

[opal vigil]

Can we connect any of the desolation trailer to the abyss?

[turbid cobalt]

Cause normally he’ll retweet all his posts once

[icy torrent]

The entire update probably

[cedar smelt]

4 times lol

[turbid cobalt]

But I’ve never seen him do it twice

FOUR TIME W A T

Wow Sean

[summer canopy]

The fact that this came out on the 16th speaks volumes

[cedar smelt]

Haha two of them are retweets about the update though

[turbid cobalt]

Sean really wants people to notice that trailer 🤔

[cedar smelt]

Theres definitely a lot that adds up. The 16th, the “ARG”, Sean’s activity. It definitely seems beyond coincidence

[icy torrent]

🤔

[karmic valve]

i think we said that said "no signal"

[cedar smelt]

It’s like when you see a fortune teller though. You hear what you want to hear and ignore the stuff that isn’t relevant. We could be blinded by hunger for an ARG lol

[main oxide]

The W/ARE discords last message was "channel disable for now" maybe it will open up again?

[summer canopy]

Just leaving this here

[turbid cobalt]

Yea it says NO_SIGNAL

[opal vigil]

Why are there checkmarks on the pins?

[icy torrent]

If that says no signal then there must be something to give us signal

[cedar smelt]

The W/ARE discords last message was "channel disable for now" maybe it will open up again?
@main oxide could be. I feel like W/ARE is probably done. I hope it is. The end of WT felt... weird to me

[icy torrent]

W/ARE is probably done

[steady torrent]

rushed

[opal vigil]

@icy torrent Back to portal adress theory?

[summer canopy]

I thought I saw a forehead in the glitches as well.. what does that make you think about?

[cedar smelt]

Rushed. Disjointed. But still emotional

[steady torrent]

yup

[soft jackal]

WTS2 was not... What WT S1 was, defently

[opal vigil]

Well, artemis does show up in this trailer.

[cedar smelt]

I think there were a lot of problems we weren’t aware of to do with timelines and stuff

[karmic valve]

???

does he

[summer canopy]

WT feels... unfinished

[opal vigil]

Yes, it shows up in one of the spectrographs.

[karmic valve]

oh shit

that kinda big

[soft jackal]

The way Emily left, in a second, was...

[cedar smelt]

WT was basically Emily and she dead (RIP). I’d be happy to branch off into new lore (and for the benefit of new people joining it. That’s a lot to catch up on otherwise)

I’d love something more rooted in NMS lore

[summer canopy]

Emily is alive I'm telling youuuuu

[cedar smelt]

Bro I got news for you .... haha

[main oxide]

Maybe we should try to make a word out of the glyphs

[opal vigil]

Do we know how artemis "died"?

[cedar smelt]

Well I’m gonna leave you guys to it. God speed and good luck!!

[summer canopy]

See ya arnaud!

[icy torrent]

there is something here

[main oxide]

10 letters, one of which appears at the first and 9th place

@icy torrent what

Static?

[icy torrent]

you see those thick lines in the middle

[main oxide]

No

[karmic valve]

oh no shit

[turbid cobalt]

Wait what was found in the spectrogram?

[karmic valve]

there is a word

nah there is something

@turbid cobalt artemis aparantly

[turbid cobalt]

Does someone have a picture of the Spectrogram?

[final halo]

I swear, these must be glyphs

[turbid cobalt]

They are

[main oxide]

There's nothing hidden in the spectro, if there was it would have been obvious

[turbid cobalt]

Check the pins

Check the check the pins

[opal vigil]

The spectrograph: https://ibb.co/2j6B3br

[main oxide]

That's not the spectrograph

[turbid cobalt]

ahh yes the [REDACTED]

[main oxide]

Thats a screenshot from the video

[opal vigil]

What? I have been told its a spectrograph.

[turbid cobalt]

Nope

That’s the video

[summer canopy]

Scp 180

[karmic valve]

um

[opal vigil]

Anyway, so artemis does show up.

[karmic valve]

why is that face horrifying then

[summer canopy]

I keep seeing a head in the glitches , I only see a fohead...... hmmm

[karmic valve]

thats gonna actrualy give me nightmares

what is that

also @icy torrent

https://gyazo.com/ab77cdd38aded1927084120e9685a85d

[main oxide]

Here's the thing, if it's not extremely obvious that it's a clue, it probably isn't. A snippet of some static with no discernable text is not a clue, but more likely just a coincidence

[opal vigil]

Calm down, one at a time.

[main oxide]

Occam's razor guys

[final halo]

Occam's razor is for nerds

[summer canopy]

I'm seeing a head frequently

[karmic valve]

@main oxide oh yeah i know, its just its all we got so might as well have a bit of fun with it

[main oxide]

We still have a set of ten glyphs that could potentially reveal an actual word

[final halo]

Am I seeing a resemblance because I want to see a resemblance, or am I onto something?

[karmic valve]

i thought that as well

the boat looks so close

it really does make sense they are portal glphs

[soft jackal]

Old glyphs where just glyphs till we saw a portal

[final halo]

If the portal glyphs have names or sounds associated with them, that may be the key

(Do they?)

[soft jackal]

They have names

[karmic valve]

https://gyazo.com/016a54086030c1570f30565d24ed55e3

[soft jackal]

What you see as the boat, I see a monolith

[final halo]

Sailor and Hunter

[main oxide]

The fact that there are recurring glyphs makes this more likely to be an actual thing

Im gonna attempt to do some decoding

[placid mango]

Goodluck

If it works let us know

[main oxide]

The "r" shaped thing appears twice, which gives us something

[soft jackal]

Portal address is 12 and we have 10, right?

[final halo]

Right

[placid mango]

So

[strong coyote]

I think the names were invented by a guy on reddit, iirc

[final halo]

@strong coyote Not the void egg names

[placid mango]

If it is. That means if we can’t find the last two we can check out 99 different addresses and one will be right if that’s the case

[karmic valve]

could be:
https://gyazo.com/4b716a54f124ea498c69ea87734a1b7c

https://gyazo.com/7e40ac28aa2dbbb7d823a17f6f75496f

[strong coyote]

true, not the void egg names

[karmic valve]

@placid mango dunno where you got that from , would be 288

cause the glyphs could be in front or behind

[soft jackal]

Or that means it's not a portal adress

[karmic valve]

actually 288+144

[placid mango]

Oh that’s a fair point

[icy torrent]

Does it have to be an exact copy for it to be true?

[placid mango]

But if we did assume that it was in the correct order then it would be 99

[karmic valve]

it makes the most sense if it is a portal glyph combo

thats all im saying

[placid mango]

Agreed

[karmic valve]

nah, 12*12

cause we have 12 glyphs

[soft jackal]

16 glyphs for 12 needed

[opal vigil]

But the system uses 16 glyphs.

[placid mango]

Nvm

[karmic valve]

oh even more then

i thought it was 12

well it would be (16^2)*3

[summer canopy]

Maybe sean will release a clue?

[soft jackal]

As said clues are hard to find, not hard to see

[placid mango]

Yes

[opal vigil]

No wait, 16 glyphs, 12 for an adress. But maybe we don't need all glyphs?

[soft jackal]

And this glitchee stuff if more than hard to see

[opal vigil]

This is how a portal adress works:

So we have 16*16 different combintions through trial and error, 256, that's a lot.

[karmic valve]

*3

because it could be infront, behind or a sandwich

[summer canopy]

This is exciting

[final halo]

I am excited

[stuck onyx]

remember that we have "hubs" with portals, maybe CEN/CEM fits in there and fills the missing glyphs

if we even are right with portals, this has been on and off, mainly since we are, of course, on only 10 runes and wouldnt know how to bridge the gap

[opal vigil]

256 may be doable with a lot of people, but 768 isn't. That's going to take ages.

That and, I have trouble turning the Glyph 1 into a portal glyph.

We need something more solid here.

[stuck onyx]

which is where the thought process ended for most of us earlier today aswell, some do look extremely similar to glyphs if turned and abstracted a little, others are a bit too abstract though

the text we would decipher could be in hex and contain a portal adress maybe, but so far no direct link

[opal vigil]

Those 10 letters? Did someone just create a whole array of 10 letter words based on the glyphs of the trailer?

[icy torrent]

ngl I kind of want Sean to tweet just one more thing to hint at this being something

like a completely baseless emoji

[plucky glacier]

cancer emoji

[summer canopy]

Yes

Please sean just a clue

[opal vigil]

Well, the current emoji is a skull.

[icy torrent]

sean if you're reading this please tweet a hamster 🐹

for ms. noodles' sake (and to hint at this being something)

[opal vigil]

Don't be desperate.

[icy torrent]

I'm joking lol... I doubt he'd actually tweet anything

[opal vigil]

Me? I got 3-5 different games competing for my attention.

[summer canopy]

I'm subbed to Emily's channel and WT

Just in case ;)

[main oxide]

I find it somewhat unlikely that A&S would restart the arg

[icy torrent]

that being said the "current emoji" doesn't align with anything to do with this puzzle, it was made to hint at the update trailer, if anything (I would say)

[opal vigil]

Could just be HG doing it themselves.

[main oxide]

@opal vigil if they are, then Emily wouldn't be involved

[opal vigil]

Emily is from A&S?

[icy torrent]

HG could use emily if they want to, I would say

again the ARG was a collaborative effort iirc

[main oxide]

@opal vigil yes she works for A&S afaik

[icy torrent]

oh yeah the actress was hired out by A&S probably, but the character can still be used in other ways

[summer canopy]

I know emilys actress and Elizabeths

[icy torrent]

I believe elizabeth's also starred in assassin's creed

may elizabeth rest in peace

[main oxide]

Man maybe there could be more clues in game

[summer canopy]

You guys want me to tell their names?

And yeah. This could be a new arg so to speak

[main oxide]

I think we should avoid drawing conclusions and saying that this is an arg

[winged rampart]

^

Easy way to get disappointed

[main oxide]

Because it's very possible that these glyphs are simply stylistic to add some flair to the trailer

[winged rampart]

We all hope its an arg but we can't be sure

[main oxide]

And the static stuff is just completely invalid.

Human brains naturally look for patterns like the ones we've found in the static

But they aren't really pronounced enough to prove that they are anything

I think the glyphs could be something

[winged rampart]

Like, some bits are but it's impossible to work out more than 2 letters

And we have no way to work out the glyphs

[main oxide]

But for now if it is a puzzle, then we don't have enough info to solve it

There could be info in game or something

But it's yet to be found

[icy torrent]

Yup

I guess we’ll see over time how this pans out

[feral socket]

what is an arg?

[sour burrow]

Alternate Reality Game

[blazing smelt]

wait hold up

what is the purpose of this thread

[sour burrow]

Solving the glyphs from the little teaser

[charred urchin]

We found stuff in the nms trailer

[blazing smelt]

????

[charred urchin]

[sour burrow]

^

[blazing smelt]

oki

what in the hell

this is above HG's paygrade I'm scared

this is some Risk of Rain 2shit

[sour burrow]

Yes. That's why it's so good

[safe matrix]

Nah. They had 2 separate ARGs before. Each lasting one year @blazing smelt

[strong coyote]

Nothing more to investigate right now, we have lots of ideas but no way to confirm/filter them yet

[sour burrow]

Glad to see we've figured out the appearances of most of the glyphs

[safe matrix]

So this is nothing compared to those

still a nice challenge I guess

[strong coyote]

We could have the answer already

[sour burrow]

How so?

[strong coyote]

One of the 10 letter words

One of the other theories

[safe matrix]

or not

[blazing smelt]

how did the other two get deciphered and what were they in the end?

[strong coyote]

The room isn't short of ideas

We're short of information

[blazing smelt]

I'm tall so uh

I'm sorry

I thought you were telling me to look up in the thread

because you @'ed me

[summer canopy]

I hope it's an arg but yeah. Guess we will find out

[junior flame]

If anything we'll figure out in time

[lament matrix]

One other thing I realized is that the video of only static was 2 seconds long. If it is at 30 frames/sec then Sean could have posted "65 FRAMES of Static" I would need to count the frames though.

[signal patio]

hah I get it

I hope we get more music from them some time cause Im in love with the existing ones

[sour burrow]

That would be such a tease 😆

[charred urchin]

so what's new just got off of work

[placid mango]

More theory’s

That’s about it

Paramo was able to figure out and clarify what the glyphs where like what they actually looked like

[summer canopy]

Wait fr

[placid mango]

Yeah check the pins

Nvm I have a picture

[junior flame]

i feel like leon has a point about it being possibly artifacting

buut if it is, i have no idea why the artifacting would be so consistent

[summer canopy]

would be cool if this was a small arg

[placid mango]

It would be stellar

[charred urchin]

Small arg would be refreshing

Or big

I’m not picky

[placid mango]

Indeed

[summer canopy]

Yeah I'm good with either

It would be great

[tepid lance]

I haven't had many ARGs to do during lockdown

[summer canopy]

I've been doing one since march and its amazing

It's called I am sophie

[tepid lance]

Ah, I heard about that one

I thought it was more of an ARS though?

[steady torrent]

buut if it is, i have no idea why the artifacting would be so consistent
@junior flame reused distortion effect for transitions including the update title

[junior flame]

yeah but if it was a reused effect, wouldn't that mean it was intentional and it was meant to be noticed?

[steady torrent]

intentional sure, meant to be noticed... 🤷‍♀️

[charred urchin]

why on earth would they put that much detail to it if it's not meant to be noticed though?

[steady torrent]

if i'm just tossing together a trailer after working on game content i'm not gonna be too picky about just reusing transition effects, lol

[charred urchin]

but why go through all the effort to throw up some gang signs in the trailer

[plucky glacier]

west siide

[junior flame]

@steady torrent that's kinda my point, HG isn't known for their effort with trailers , so why even bother?

[charred urchin]

let's look at it from hello games side

they know their community very well

we look into things A LOT

HG knew we were going to go through the trailer frame by frame

that's why we had an ARG for the past 2 years

[steady torrent]

my point is that from another perspective this isn't more effort but the same sorta effort insofar as if it's reused transitions it's them being low effort but with aesthetic flair, lol

imo if they were going to put more effort & easter eggs into it, they'd have used clearer stuff.

distorted portal glyphs, classic spectrograph stuff since they know we know what's up with that via the ARG, etc.

[charred urchin]

how the fuck is this not clear

[steady torrent]

you misunderstand, clear as in clearly resembling something we would be familiar with

[charred urchin]

You do realize that it’s possible we don’t have everything yet either. This could be something to spike our attention and be used later

[steady torrent]

you've all been stumped by this because there is no reference point to go from this, some passing resemblance to existing symbols/runes but nothing that translates

and you may be right

[junior flame]

i'm cautiously optimistic myself

[summer canopy]

Were just gonna have to wait for more info

[junior flame]

ok, lets put it this way. we should wait until any leads, or lack there of

[charred urchin]

^

I agree

[steady torrent]

pretty much, but i'm also just being like, let's not be surprised if it doesn't go somewhere

[junior flame]

if you're right you're right, if you're wrong you're wrong

nothing changes outside of us potentially getting an ARG

[steady torrent]

*an(other)

[charred urchin]

@steady torrent actually that is a pretty good out look

[junior flame]

ok fair

[charred urchin]

Don’t count your chickens before they hatch metaphor

[junior flame]

btw leon i do appreciate you injecting some reason into this discussion

[steady torrent]

in the meantime i've just been poking around the derelicts

'cause if there were anything more to it, i'd suspect something in those

[junior flame]

so its not just rampant speculation

[summer canopy]

Exited for what could come

[charred urchin]

Ngl I kind of have a biased stand point cause I was one of the first ppl to find something in the trailer so I really want it work out so sorry for letting that get into the way

[steady torrent]

no worries, i've been a little brief here since i only dug into it a bit after work and so was just tired and going blah look it this, lol:

but i could be wrong, so 🤷‍♀️

[charred urchin]

And I could be wrong so who knows we need Sean Murray’s graceful knowledge to swoop in and save us from our misery

[steady torrent]

HEY SEAN GET OVER HERE

[summer canopy]

Sean really needs to release some atlas merch

[charred urchin]

S E A N

[steady torrent]

BEFORE WE START READING GLYPHS IN UR BEARD HAIR

has anyone seen sean lately

[summer canopy]

By atlas I mean the atlas foundation cuz that logo is cool

[charred urchin]

I can see the stars they glimmer in your eyes in the very folicles of your hair they breath life!!!!

[summer canopy]

So sean. Release some merchhhh

Sean.

Sean

Sean

Sean

Seen

Shawn

Shon

[placid mango]

He should make a levitating atlas statue

Like this but with the atlas

[charred urchin]

Who hath awoken me?

No seriously why did I get ping?

[placid mango]

Returneth to thine slumber

Sorry it was an accident

[charred urchin]

I shall go into my abysmal drama and dreamers upon the answer in which we seek

[placid mango]

Good luck in thine travels to the void

[charred urchin]

proceeds to drop into a coma

[placid mango]

F

[odd delta]

the glyphs in the trailer are used elsewhere?

in the game, webside, idk

[charred urchin]

Nope branded new or at least we have yet to find where they are from

[summer canopy]

Something like this

[odd delta]

I see... might be a new thing

or just cosmetic addition

I thought it was used in the new update. haven't played it yet

[summer canopy]

I miss this

[twin token]

Hello interlopers!

[summer canopy]

Helloooo

[sour burrow]

Yeah it couldn't be Leon. Spot 4 and 9 are O which would mean spot 4 and 9 for the glyphs should be the same. They are not

[summer canopy]

Cant waitt till we crack this dang thing

[sour burrow]

Same

[lavish moon]

If I blur my eyes, the white text looks like 'Desolation' hastily scratched onto a surface

[rugged burrow]

i just think the last few glyphs are too distorted to even be sure what they are, let alone figure them out

my current feeling is this is not solvable, but may be a tease for a future puzzle

[summer canopy]

You may be right

[granite sierra]

Hi guys something new?

Ok it's dead here

[turbid cobalt]

any progress?

[twin token]

@granite sierra no I'm still trynna crack it atleast

The new highlights make it a lot easier

[steady torrent]

Yeah it couldn't be Leon. Spot 4 and 9 are O which would mean spot 4 and 9 for the glyphs should be the same. They are not
@sour burrow 🤦‍♀️ this again is assuming these are meant to be symbols/glyphs at all, when that entire assumption could be wrong

[sour burrow]

Idk

What do you think it could be?

[steady torrent]

some distortion artifacting or whathaveyou

and being a heavily, heavily distorted form of the word desolation, with what everyone's trying to translate being the artifacts of that distortion

with the distortion effect being repeated for several of the glitch transitions

[sour burrow]

Fair point

[steady torrent]

but i also accept that i could be wrong. It just seems to me like if you were going to hide some glyphs, you'd use ones we know & distort those, and have enough of them recognizable for where we see those glyphs used most, i.e. portal coordinates

[sour burrow]

I get that

I guess this is what happens when the entire community is craving for some kind of secret hint towards something big 😛

[icy torrent]

Something isn't right, maybe the other glyphs are just not in the trailer?

wouldn't make sense ..

[rugged burrow]

i dunno Leon, like I don't think it's probably solvable, but some of those glyphs look too legible and geometric to be distortions. like the bowtie symbol

[icy torrent]

So we have to find 3 more glyphs?

[steady torrent]

i mean if they're distortions/artifacts of existing characters it makes sense

[rugged burrow]

video compression artifacts don't really distort that way though

[steady torrent]

they do if they're just part of artistic flair distortion vs. emulating fully real video compression artifacts

[rugged burrow]

all I know is Sean is probably laughing his ass off at us right now

[icy torrent]

😅

he's probably like NOPE, NOPE

[granite sierra]

Like I even asked him. Bud he didn't reply.

I think it's just a thing for us to discuss. But it doesn't mean anything.

That's Sean's intention.

[sour burrow]

Gives us something to do anyway

[icy torrent]

Its almost August, maybe an innitiative from HG

[sour burrow]

Yes

Soon

More to come

Wouldn't be impossible to see something in August

[cedar smelt]

👀 morning all

[sour burrow]

Morning

Any thoughts?

[winged rampart]

Morning

[cedar smelt]

No thoughts from me sadly

[sour burrow]

Shoot

That's alright

[karmic valve]

Nah looking on it this morning

Its not distorted desolation

The scale is completely wrong, like the gylphs are bigger than the word title. It really doesn't fit

Like distortion wouldnt effect scale at all

It would just change shape

Also has anyone tried overlaying every layer, see if we get some more legible glyphs?

[sour burrow]

Have you guys looked to see if any of those glyphs have to do with anything related to HG and NMS?

Like being featured in a different trailer or something with WT?

[granite sierra]

I thought of something

What about if we try to search as many derelict freighters as we xan

Can*

Maybe theres some rare decal with clue

Or even an answer

No we tried everything possible with WT.

[icy torrent]

What about if we try to search as many derelict freighters as we xan
@granite sierra Wouldn't we see it in the nexus?

in the shop

[granite sierra]

No i mean the decorative decals in derelict freighters. Like scratches or so

[icy torrent]

Hmmm

[granite sierra]

I just feel like its something with the freighters

[final needle]

Probably

Maybe there's something in like the PDA logs

Or even the 3 main shits

[granite sierra]

No they are procedural

[icy torrent]

derelict freighters would be a good place to search though

like in Destiny 2 there where clues on Mars

[final needle]

@granite sierra yes but there should be a template

For the things

[granite sierra]

Yes

Somewhere

[final needle]

Maybe in one of them we find a constant

[granite sierra]

U own pc version?

Cos i have only PS4 and cant look at files

[final needle]

Xbox

[granite sierra]

Ok

We need somebody with pc version

To look at files

[icy torrent]

I have PC

Where can i check?

[final needle]

Ok what are the derelicts called in the files

[granite sierra]

Idk

[final needle]

We can start there

Then i would assume there's a .txt file or something in there somewhere

[granite sierra]

Or some images

With decals

[final needle]

Find all the log templates

@granite sierra or that

[granite sierra]

I cant look anywhere so we need somebody who knows what is he doing.

[final needle]

I've browsed some files before

[icy torrent]

i checked can't find anything in the files related to the derelict

[granite sierra]

Hmmm

Something with decals?

[final needle]

Try keyword dungeon??

[granite sierra]

Hmmm

Maybe destroyed freighter

[final needle]

Because isnt that what HG calls them

@granite sierra I would think that's the pulse drive anomaly from living ship

[granite sierra]

Ok i feel exhausted ill be back in few hours

[icy torrent]

'travellers may share the location of derelict freighters'

[twin token]

Someone posted a picture of dots on the derelicts near the beds. I looked at them. Maybe they are braille or Morse?

Does anyone have a pic?

@icy torrent it's called dungeon in the files I believe. Atleast I think that's a keyword

[willow sun]

Anything for me to do

There was a bug though where freighters generated differently for two players in the same system

[twin token]

Yea

@willow sun look for runes I suppose that's what we all are doing

[stuck onyx]

does anyone still have an image set of the old portal glyphs? i want to check if they fit, even if we are two spaces short of a real portal address

[twin token]

They don't sadly

Do you mean these?

[final needle]

Thats perfectly backwards

[twin token]

Meant to be

[final needle]

Why

[twin token]

Lol idk

[stuck onyx]

i dont know if i am imagining things but i am pretty sure there was a set of older glyphs, including an "eye" shape which would fit the last one perfectly

[twin token]

Was it on the site?

[stuck onyx]

but after some searches i think i am just tripping or confusing things

[twin token]

Check the game detectives page

[stuck onyx]

will do yeah

[twin token]

Awesome! Good luck!

[stuck onyx]

dont expect anything from it to be honest 😄 still think we are missing alot, like people discussed earlier

[twin token]

Yea me too

Or HG testing if our ARG solving minds are still working

[stuck onyx]

im gonna have a look at the glitched images again later tonight, maybe see if there is a way to stich together some parts of it

because the more i look at them the more the "CE" looks like a texture at the side of a box

[final needle]

wow no mans sky combat evolved???

Monka

[stuck onyx]

NMS: CERN

[final needle]

Combat evolved remastered now

[karmic valve]

hang on thats not a bad idea

can we ask game detective for some help

[lyric karma]

not without a solid lead

[karmic valve]

rip

[lyric karma]

that's not just something we can drop, "hey we're chasing rabbits, come with us!"

[karmic valve]

😦

i reckon we will get something soon if its anything anyway

cause everyone seems to be giving up with it

cause there is not much to go on at all

[lyric karma]

nah believe me

I want an ARG or something

[karmic valve]

me too

[lyric karma]

but there should have been more setup time if it was an ARG for the summer update

WTS1 first got its lead in January

I don't even remember when we got a firm lead on Season 2

[karmic valve]

honestly neither, season 2 was strange

are these weekly missions meant to end in august

[lyric karma]

nah weeklies are just that, weeklies

barring some great cataclysm that truly shakes things up

[karmic valve]

yeah but its a new story line and lore, they might be trying to do an arg along side it

[lyric karma]

or incorporating NMS itself

[karmic valve]

ive heard from someone they are finishing in august, while some people say september

[lyric karma]

lol show me a firm source fam

[karmic valve]

if its september then that does give them a bit of time to do an arg with it

[lyric karma]

otherwise leaks are just leak

and pipes drip all the time c;

[karmic valve]

i dunno, it was people reading the data mined text

trying to work out when the story finished

[lyric karma]

ah, I assumed you were referring to a 4chan leak

[twin token]

Asked on r/codes

[lyric karma]

about the glyphs?

er

runes?

[twin token]

Hopfullt we'll get a lead soon

Yup

[lyric karma]

good thinking, I really hope it's not just distortion c:

[twin token]

I really do hope that

Asked people on the subreddit to help here

Can anyone post this on ETARC?

[lyric karma]

is the ETARC site still atlas-65?

[twin token]

Yes I belive

Its the etarc forums

A search for ETARC should bring it up as the first result

[lyric karma]

I need to go to bed x.x I can drop a line to Devilin, or someone can draft a write-up

[sick forge]

I am guessing they are going to show something in the August xbox show

Probably a next gen port with several other improvements

[twin token]

@lyric karma please do drop a line

I feel like ETARC could really help

[sick forge]

Because honestly i Don't see them not porting to next gen

And doing improvements along the way

[granite sierra]

Is something new going on?

[fair pelican]

@twin token Feel free to create a topic on the Atlas CSD forum (ETARC).

I have looked into the game source files to see if I could recognise any of the symbols. I am reasonably familiar with the source and fonts/decals/glyphs used in the game, but not really been able to find a single thing that matches all. I wonder if there is actually anything to it, but I can understand the speculation.

[lost fable]

Sorry what’s ETARC

[vagrant fiber]

I have looked into the game source files to see if I could recognise any of the symbols. I am reasonably familiar with the source and fonts/decals/glyphs used in the game, but not really been able to find a single thing that matches all. I wonder if there is actually anything to it, but I can understand the speculation.
@fair pelican Yeah. Might as well wonder if this leads to anything.

But at the same time, why would they put it up there so "blatantly" just for us to waste our time in case it doesn't lead to anything?

[fair pelican]

No idea what is actually the source of what is shown without all the glitching. It could be anything even though some of it appears to possibly mean something. We may be wasting our time on it, or not, who's to say. Many are eager to find 'something' though and those are prone to spending a lot of time and effort

[sick forge]

Suggestion : have you guys tried mirroring the symbols (individually symbol wise - both vertical/horizontally and mirroring the entire thing as well - again horizontal and vertical)

[vagrant fiber]

Good one. Ill try that

[fair pelican]

All I have done is go through source files. The Zephyr Jubilee font was my first thought to look at as it is used in some of the decals. There are other decals inspired by this font it seems, although I can't find an actual font match

[sick forge]

No not the game files, i mean the symbols from trailer

[fair pelican]

https://www.dafont.com/zephyr-jubilee.font

[sick forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/733597289406398505/733786658113060924/image0.png

These ones

[fair pelican]

I know what you mean. I am just trying to find matches with source files used in the game

[vagrant fiber]

I can't find any matches. the glitch effect on the right distorts the program

[fair pelican]

Like this one for example

[vagrant fiber]

that's a mathematical symbol.

so is this one.

[fair pelican]

Has similarity with the 3rd glyph in the image posted by @sick forge

[vagrant fiber]

double struck capital L

-edit: thats not a mathematical symbol i think

the 1st one is, but not the 2nd.

[fair pelican]

Or this one

[vagrant fiber]

The one you sent looks like a inverted delta

Δ

it can't be greek right? that'd be too easy

hold up, hold up

[fair pelican]

So even though I can find some sort of matching symbols used in the game files. I am not quite able to find them all. Some close, others not so sure

[vagrant fiber]

ill try to match a few. give me a few minutes.

[winged rampart]

Even if we match it to that can it be translated?

Wait if its a font...

Each one must correspond to some real symbol right?

[fair pelican]

The ones I just posted can not really be translated.

[winged rampart]

Oh ok

[vagrant fiber]

They can.

[fair pelican]

Those are decals and not really supposed to mean anything, besides looking interesting. But from the same style there is a number system as well.

[vagrant fiber]

Lots of symbols are either greek, or math symbols

[fair pelican]

Like this Number 5

or Number 9

[vagrant fiber]

i am making a list right now

program thinks one of the glyphs is a frog face. epic

t h a n k y o u, v e r y c o o l.

[final needle]

YOOO

I like frogs

[fair pelican]

I was just hoping it would be something used in-game, because that seems logical, like we have that one tiny easter egg on specific Hauler models. NMS4LIF

[vagrant fiber]

okay:

[final needle]

Could this help?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabla_symbol

Specifically modern

[vagrant fiber]

thats what i was going for

[final needle]

I was never good at geometry

[vagrant fiber]

nvm didnt lead to what i was thinking

the symbol nabla is used in giving Cartesian coordinates in "3 dimensional Euclidean space"

Euclid? coincidence?

[sick forge]

Some of these things resemble what we actually see in the game

[vagrant fiber]

exactly.

[sick forge]

For example the last symbol looks like the lines in spacestation

[icy torrent]

I think the last one is the congruency symbol

[sick forge]

The third symbol from left looks like a space station entrance

The third symbol from right looks like silhouette of one of those monoliths that have stairs/steps

[vagrant fiber]

but like-

coordinates in Euclidean space

[icy torrent]

≅

[vagrant fiber]

isnt that literally it?

arent these a bunch of coordinates?

i have no clue what else they can be

I think the last one is the congruency symbol
@icy torrent and yes that is also true

or they could be a mash of math symbols leading to something else

which is also very likely

gamma, alpha, nabla, congruency symbol...

[icy torrent]

Also consider ∝as a alternative to alpha

means 'proportional to'

[vagrant fiber]

omg yes

i couldn't find the symbol

so i just assumed it was alpha

but this is way better

[icy torrent]

I actually think it looks more like alpha, but who knows...

[proper verge]

proportional character : ∝

[vagrant fiber]

that gives:

Gamma - proportional to - Euclidean space

[proper verge]

im not sure about the Nabla/Del meaning euclidean space

[vagrant fiber]

yeah, but there's hardly anything else it could reference

no wait

[proper verge]

it could mean gradient, divergence, and curl

[icy torrent]

The forth one from the right might actually be the join operator ⋈

[vagrant fiber]

"The symbol is also used in differential geometry to denote a connection."

"...to denote a connection"

[icy torrent]

join makes sense when talking about coordinates

[vagrant fiber]

The forth one from the right might actually be the join operator ⋈
@icy torrent i think that is better indeed. i think the pixel on the bottom is just a glitched pixel

[final needle]

Inb4 this is all meaningless

[icy torrent]

Its good fun

[vagrant fiber]

^ indeed

[zenith mirage]

^

[icy torrent]

The real meaning was the friends we made along the way anyway

[vagrant fiber]

i really don't think this is meaningless. the glyphs were put in the trailer in a way too obvious way

[final needle]

@zenith mirage you...

[icy torrent]

Also the CEM/CEN thing

[icy torrent]

That one is even clearer

[vagrant fiber]

sending them again, dont want to scroll up lol

[final needle]

I feel like I've seen the last one before

[proper verge]

yea, its in NMS spoilers

and was the main one used

[final needle]

No like outside of discord

[vagrant fiber]

I feel like I've seen the last one before
@final needle it looks like a Egyptian hieroglyph lol

[zenith mirage]

@final needle What about me?

[icy torrent]

Uh, look the the second image again

last symbol there looks like a rotated ℝ

[zenith mirage]

true

[proper verge]

like as in real numbers ?

[icy torrent]

Yep

[vagrant fiber]

hold upp

you know those weird P's in text

[final needle]

@zenith mirage I remember you from the "what will you do?" Image

[vagrant fiber]

when you insert an enter

i forgot what they're called

argh

[proper verge]

you talking about paragraph symbol

[vagrant fiber]

nonono

fkkkk

i forgot its name...

[final needle]

Thorn?

[icy torrent]

Not the pilcrow?

[sick forge]

The new line symbol?

Carriage return?

[vagrant fiber]

pilcrow!

⁋

[proper verge]

oh, the paragraph symbol

[vagrant fiber]

§

isnt that a paragraph?

[proper verge]

thought that was a style character

[stuck onyx]

or its a notation for greater/equal than

with no other side of the equation though 😄

i like the mathematical approach, seems to hold up so far

also i think there is a symbol in statistics for an event, its similar to the fourth rune

[vagrant fiber]

or its a notation for greater/equal than
@stuck onyx you mean the § or the ⁋?

[stuck onyx]

the tenth one

[final needle]

§

That one symbol to make colored text in minecraft

[proper verge]

^

apparently its the section sign

[sick forge]

Its a snake

🐍

[stuck onyx]

its a paragraph yes, also used in law contexts

[regal vine]

do we actually think this is anything or are people just investigating because it's fun

[vagrant fiber]

both.

[icy torrent]

Has anyone figured out the sixth one?

[proper verge]

i think it is something. maybe not all of it tho

[stuck onyx]

doesnt change the process in any way tbh, either way people are looking into it

[vagrant fiber]

wait, missing the 2nd

2nd is wrong

[regal vine]

yeah sorry didnt mean to come off like I was judging or anything

[fair pelican]

∝

[vagrant fiber]

yep

[regal vine]

i dont have the patience to look at it lol so i just follow along every now and then

[summer canopy]

Waiting titan

[stuck onyx]

keep all possible optioms in it, example for two would be alpha/proportional

then we can fall back on it later if needed

[vagrant fiber]

got it.

[stuck onyx]

nice, thank ye

[final needle]

Honestly the last one looks like

[icy torrent]

And he last one the congruency opetator

[final needle]

Z

[vagrant fiber]

And he last one the congruency opetator
@icy torrent the 10th?

[stuck onyx]

yeah

very similar

[vagrant fiber]

can you send the symbol?

[summer canopy]

https://forums.atlas-65.com/

[final needle]

WAIT

GREATER THAN OR EQUAL TO

[summer canopy]

Heres ETARC

[regal vine]

it sorta looks like but cut off

[vagrant fiber]

brb 2 mins

[summer canopy]

Before WT. Was ETARC Even a thing?

[regal vine]

no it was created for it i believe

[final needle]

@hearty vigil

Hey

Send the thing

[summer canopy]

Oh that explains the atlas symbol

[regal vine]

it stands for edison township amateur radio club or something, kinda funny they still use that name

[hearty vigil]

I just stumbled upon this comic on eBay... Didn't know about it. But it made me think of the glyphs from the trailer that someone shared recently

Are they the same?

[final needle]

THIRD FROM RIGHT

[summer canopy]

But yeah you guys should post about this on etarc

[final needle]

THIRD TO LAST COLLUMN

WAIT

THERE ARE 10 COLUMNS

I CANT SPELL BUT

[icy torrent]

Sorry had a brain fart, meant the Aproximately equal operator≅

[vagrant fiber]

Sorry had a brain fart, meant the Aproximately equal operator≅
@icy torrent edited ✅

[final needle]

James swallow 😏

[proper verge]

someone took pictures of the whole comic. idk if there are just images somewhere https://imgur.com/a/IFW7r

[regal vine]

that was from i think pre release

looking at these most of them almost look like sections of portal glyphs

[sick forge]

Wait a second... should we try mirroring each symbol and join them

[regal vine]

? ? ? ? ? ?

[sick forge]

Yeahhh like thay

If we mirror the last symbol and combine it, we get

[regal vine]

yeah that's what I was thinking before

but that doesn't work for all

[proper verge]

see the thing is. there are only 10 symbols not sure what we do about the last 6

[regal vine]

unless the weird right angle is

yeah that's also true

but i don't think going through an image from a prerelease comic would be very helpful either

[vagrant fiber]

im looking through the comic. might get us something. odnt know

[final needle]

8 could be

[regal vine]

oh yeah that looks closer

a cool theory but like skop said there aren't enough symbols

[final needle]

3

[vagrant fiber]

? ? ? ? ? ?

so this?

[zenith mirage]

perhaps

[regal vine]

they at least look sorta similar

the others don't really have very close symbols though

[regal vine]

2 is so blurry in the source image that it could be anything. idek how we got alpha out of that

[icy torrent]

The second might also be the fish

[regal vine]

yeah thought about that too

[vagrant fiber]

HOLD UP

[icy torrent]

I have seen fish represented that way

[vagrant fiber]

HIVE

YOU WERE RIGHT

[icy torrent]

That would be a first

[final needle]

6 ?

[vagrant fiber]

SEE THAT SYMBOL?